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We all make perfect selections from our sofas. But what sorts of things do teams and selectors have to weigh up when actually making decisions. We use India's first Test decisions on their spin to look at how selection works. From picking Washington Sundar to neglecting Kuldeep Yadav, what's the thinking behind these selections? How can selectors weigh up their options?
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The fact that this man is so under the radar is a crime
I'm a sub radar kinda fella
@@JarrodKimberYT so.... sonar?
On youtube yes
Othet no
Credits: Virak Kohli
Probably in the TH-cam space, but this channel is going to shoot through the clutter very quickly. Also, if you follow Cricinfo and The Cricket Monthly, his articles are much loved. Easily my favourite cricket writer in the world right now.
Alternative title: why india not giving kukdeep chances is justified.
Before the 2nd test match some fans were saying drop Rohit and Rahane from the team and some fans were saying remove Kohli from captiancy. Kohli, Rahane and Rohit always have lot of mutual respect and support towards each other...still immature fans fight among themselves...
@@timothysoo8582 now that's a deep perspective I never thought of...good points...but there is that kind of Indian fan also who only targets national players who are from a different IPL team or not from his state...which is unfortunate...
It is because of ipl fans are divided......
Why bring Twitter drama here
@@kunjalssj these comments are all over youtube...I am not even on twitter so I don't know what goes on there..
@@doctorjoy2688 sure, but channels like these are the few places where we can get away from such unnecessary drama. Let's keep it that way.
Jadeja is criminally underrated
I think people know how good a bowler he is. Its his batting that is underrated.
@@shalinibalagopal1292 well said
We should not forgot , Dhoni has given him enough chances in Tests even in overseas conditions where he was not successful in both bowl/bat , but he persisted with him.. currently the persistance being paid off.. compare to that Sundar straight away made an impression on bouncy pitch in both bowl and bat.. moreover pandya will be back once he fit to bowl....all in all we have now options which is a good thing!
Well he’s not, cuz most Indians are saying he’s better than Stokes. Mental lads
@@bobwillis3023 that's what they are saying right now , but a few years back when he was just as good people were ignoring him. I guess he WAS criminally underrated
Great explanation of the range of thought processes behind India's selection. Thanks for another great video Jarrod! After watching Foakes in the most recent test, I would love to hear your take on batsmen-wicketkeepers vs wicketkeeper-batsmen (not that the distinction is necessarily always clear). I think that you briefly mentioned in a previous video that superior wicketkeepers need to be really, really good to make up for shortfalls in batting. I would love to hear more about this. Foakes really is mindblowingly good (Buttler has also been excellent recently), although maybe my standards are just low.
I will eventually do the big keepers thing. It will probably be a 9 hour doco though
@@JarrodKimberYT Sounds great. Looking forward to it
This channel is amazing. Keep the content going, it's definitely going to grow. The analysis and insights are beautiful
I put manure on it to make it grow every day
Long live the cult of Jarrod kimber!
Loved the storytelling.. was hooked throughout!
Yes, sundar was selected in the first test coz of the agar syndrome, how do you drop one of the gabba heroes right after the gabba test, even if he's exactly similar to ashwin - selection has to be situation-based though, only reason sundar played the gabba was bcoz ashwin was injured, u can't try to fit sundar in as a jadeja when jadeja turns the ball the other way. In batting in the Aus series they went with prithvi Shaw due to a Joe burns syndrome - can't drop the bloke if he made a decent score last test series regardless of first class form since then
Really good content Jarrod. Enjoyable as always. It's like one of those interesting buzzfeed/vice kind of videos. It's a pity it doesn't have more views. Hang in there, with this kind of content i'm sure your channel will eventually grow to a number it deserves. All the best!
Great video & quality content.
It's rare when a cricket video is so fun and very informative (well researched) at the same time.
Was following Jarrod Kimber the writer on Espncricinfo for years, but now also following him for his creative TH-cam videos.
Interesting stuff as always
It was a treat to watch how much energy is poured by selectors and sportsmen to win a series. And yet there's always some probability that one dropped catch can take the whole series out of your hand. So, watching cricket is easy, playing it is tough. That's what fans should understand.
Great analysis, seems like Kuldeep non selection in 1st test is proving right. Kuldeep lacks the control needed to succeed at the level and it shows from his economy rate even on this minefield in chennai in 2nd test.
India should have chosen Charhar I guess but it was understandabke after watch 2nd test why india had slim pickings to chose from
Sir, u blew my mind... I love ur presentation & analysis... Any country ll hire u soon
Wow...that's mind blowing. Data is gold!
Love your videos and cool animations ...keep it up ..from INDIA off course.
Jarrod is a proper, proper journalist.
Kuldeep is rare breed a China man spinner and very talented yes he is having a dark path but he is going to be a beast of a player
I would have played amit mishra instead of nadeem..far more experienced..wrist spinner..with big turn weapons
Amit mishra has been very good with bat too recently.
I have to say after watching a few of your videos I now find me self humming the backing track at random. Quality video again. Who would of thought there would be an agar conundrum?
Take a bow dude👏👏
This is some high quality shit and the fact that you back all of your claims with stats🔥 And it really shows how much consideration is given to selection of replacement players- sure it can click, but when it backfires, the whole world's at your throat. Just recently there was a lot of moaning and cussing due to non selection of Kuldeep in playing XI but seeing this does puts it in perspective.
p.s.- Love a Jadeja fan & now I'm binge watching all of your videos🤩
Mr.Jarrod kimber take a bow!!! Your videos are amazing , keep uploading.
Make one on pitches and home advantage.
You never know.
I can understand the economy. Wrist spin is an attacking option and they are more in the team to take wickets than hold up an end. They will bowl more bad balls than the finger spinner but as they get far more revs on the bowl when they land it in the right spot they are more likely to take wickets. In only rare players like warne who could hold up an end as a wrist spinner.
Pretty handy in fielding 😂😂😂Jadeja
Did he know jadu is best fielder all around world
@@Aman-ro4ni yes he's joking
Amazing man!! I'm sure you put lot of work in there.
Just discovered this its awesome
Another great video, Jarrod! I have a request. Could you make a video on fielding? It's one aspect of cricket that's not discussed enough. Great job with the videos, keep them coming!
So I have a metric I've developed called "Value Above Replacement Player"
Only three Test spinners with over 100 Test wickets have a VARP of more than +100% (meaning that they're 100% better than a replacement player). Those three spinners are Hedley Verity, Muttiah Muralitharan and Ravindra Jadeja
in all sincerity and earnestness, I would love to know more about this. Did you model it from baseballs WAR rating? Is it bowling only? Just thinking about how Warne didn't make the cut, despite being an above average #8 and world class fielder. Do you have a blog or website where I could read about it?
I love the game of cricket to bits and you are all I ever hoped to be but couldn't mate!! You are incredible Jarrod!!!
Have recently watched your vids man,
They really are a lot informative and interesting
man i love this quirky litte channel
Such a great video! Good job my friend. Subbed!
Stuff is really good mate.. Keep up the good work 👍
That was unexpectedly enjoyable.
Great research.. Keep it up
What a wonderful storytelling through data. I am in Data Analytics and I absolutely loved this.
Man, I was watching it on 2x. I did get most of it but I think my head hurts a little bit. No criticisms here though. Statistical analysis is always appreciated, rather than swooping statements of ex cricketers.
Fantastic analysis. Got hooked to this channel 👍
you cheeky nerd. genius stuff! I can see the hardwork and the passion. Superb! Can we have the Rishab Pant conundrum next and one on BANWI series too.
There's already a video on Pant up
Love the number crunching, the animation and zero drama approach .. Liked, Subscribed and Commented!
Hat-trick
@@JarrodKimberYT I have noticed one thing about you, you respond only once to a comment, guess you aren't the conversationalist ;)
Say .....Ruv-IN-Draw. Jaw-DAY-Jaa....this is best way to learn...
Outstanding as always!!!
Love it here man! Keep going
This is great, keep em coming mate.
i think they messed up big time ... but Nadeem is a decent bowler. He doesnt show up on FC stats because he plays for a lousy team Jharkhand that never qualifies for anything. but i like the way he gets decent turn on most pitches... had India won the toss and batted first .... you never know
BCCI should take you as an advisor/ Analyst
You have great knowledge of cricket 🏏
That is unlikley
Here after Axar Patel took 2 wickets in the 1st innings of the 2nd Test Match !
I'm wondering what happened to his knee 🤔
he was ruled out of 1st match because of that knee
It healed after the first Test. The human body is a remarkable thing.
@@JarrodKimberYT Thank you so much for the reply!
But his knee recovered in less than ten days, that's a lil sus
@@sampriktapoddar3709 it's the era of social media. We see what we want to see and we believe what we want to believe. Am I right?
@@sampriktapoddar3709 It's not like he took a hammer and smashed it, it was just hurting a little.
in hind sight as you can now see how well both sundar and thakur have done with the bowl and specially the bat
Star sports (Indian sport channel) needs to learn a lot from u. Top stuff.
Ha
What a video man !!!
Cut throat analysis ..
Will be sharing this in my group.
You deserve more audience. :)
I hope your group is 8 million people
Hahaa!!
Not that big for sure but its cricket loving community that will always support, share and expand quality content like yours 😊
Interesting channel..well researched as well.
Analysis is just prolific but I am thinking about the motivation behind it. Wonder if Australia cricket board driving it ? But then I wonder if it was so, then why would Jarrod put this in public domain? i answer that myself - he will put it in public domain to test the waters - reactions of people - perhaps to test if there are any kinks in the analysis.
Anyway whatever may be the motivation behind working out Indian team selection and gauging their depth lacunae. This analysis is like no body else has done. It shows your immense love for cricket which is wonderful.
yes this whole channel is a cunning plan by CA to destabilise other teams one Neil Wagner video at a time.
@@JarrodKimberYT In my comment, strangely, there was a lot of praise in a weird sort of way for you. Seems like, you have overlooked that aspect. Whether CA recruited you or not yet - it is good to raise the blog value if CA’s name gets attached . In any case with that deep brain analysis, it would n’t be long for CA to recognise and recruit you.
I really.. Like the way you guys presented the content.
Boy what an amazing analysis..
great analysis...one has to feel for Jaydev Unadkat...he grinds it out and becomes the highest wicket taker in the latest Ranji season...but is nowhere in the discussion of a selection. Whereas Natarajan was at the right place at the right time and makes his test debut.
Luck
I saw him years ago playing India A and since then it has amazed me he hasn't made it. Really good red ball bowler.
@@JarrodKimberYT really unlucky
Meanwhile his ranji teammate Cheteshwar Pujara "Jaydev has bowled exceptionally well throughout the season. If someone takes 67 wickets in a season, I don't think there is anyone who can perform better in the Ranji Trophy. There has to be lot of importance to Ranji Trophy performance to get picked for the Indian team."
I wanted to see more of Siraj after his success in Australia.
quality video. Subscribed!
I see lots of hard work here 👏👏👏
Hey Jarrod,
Here is a challenge, gonna be interesting. Make a list of All time worse test team in the world. Players must have played more than 10 test in international career -since 1980.
Woah! Jarrod you were in the Netflix short documentary! Really feel ignorant now that didn't know about you earlier. Really enjoying your content here too.👍🏼
Just me and Stephen Fry, hangin' out
Best cricket show ever
Feeling for kuldeep yadav couldn't take wickets today hope takes tommorow in 2nd innings
The pitch doesn't suit him
Ur so technically correct i feel my self as American indian
Not a single dislike yet ..that's impressive..
It's 6 now..assholes do exist 😂😂
@@kunalandshorya 20 now...... Definitely exists
Jadeja is not just "pretty handy" on the field !
He's the best fielder in cricket right now.
Not the best but one of the best.
Data science and cricket..That's it all about..And it's very much impact ful
Want to revisit it Jarrod? Sundar is a proper batsman (No. 6 / No. 7) who can bowl a bit (accurate offie but not too many revolutions on the ball and no obvious variations either) and might take a few wickets on a turner. His main job is to keep it tight and give a break to the lead spinners since India's top 6 doesn't bowl. Axar is similar to Jadeja (fastish left arm spin bowling all-rounder) but not as good as Jadeja is currently with the bat though even more accurate than Jadeja with ball.
man brilliant analysis, but would you consider using a better microphone? sometimes i can't make out what you are saying, few words are coming out thick/fuzzy or you could add captions, even auto-generated captions will do. love your content btw
On that graph about all rounder differentials, where does Shakib come in? Because everywhere I hear all rounders talked about (in all formats) Shakib is almost unquestionably top 5.
He hadn't played enough Tests, but here it is over 5 years he's just above Stokes stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=allround_average;qualmin1=10;qualmin2=1000;qualmin3=50;qualval1=matches;qualval2=runs;qualval3=wickets;spanmax1=14+Feb+2021;spanmin1=14+Feb+2016;spanval1=span;template=results;type=allround
Nerdy stuff. But I loved it 👍
Amazing vid!
Great video sir
Enjoyed it more than the match 😂
Terrific podcast.
Great analysis
You are good.
Me, a left arm wrist spinner who mostly bowls ‘loopy shit’: *Boy am I screwed, gonna bowl finger spin darts now eh* 🤣
Your channel is gold
Interesting. Also pls clarify whether the players are allowed to ask the umpire prior to reviewing?
Brilliantly explained
Amazing 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
what about Travis head?? How the heck do you select Head for test level honors?? Poor technique he delivers nothing for the team.
2nd fastest century for australian😃
this is a really cool video. selection of a bowling attack is usually pretty complicated, but it feels like no one ever talks about it. the way you've broken it down is really nice.
Just one tip though, for your average/economy graph I wouldn't put both numbers on the same scale, because the economy ends up just looking like a straight line and you can't tell the difference between 2 or 5. I would put a scale on the right-hand side for economy (say from 0 to 5) and then show it via that
Yeah, I only noticed that later. Sometimes you swing at a wide one without your feet moving.
How can a youtube guy provide better insight and knowledge about cricket than all those highly paid commentators and analysts and not have atleast 200k subs. That's just not done.
Jarrod, I'm curious to know if you've found similar kinds of YT channels/podcasts/etc. from other sports. I'm a huge fan of your work, and would love to find this kind of data-driven content for some of my other favourite sports (tennis, basketball, etc.).
(I imagine there must be a bit more of it for the American team sports - they seem to be a little ahead-of-the-curve w/ respect to data (and democratization of data), compared to some of the European/Asian/etc.-centric sports.)
Plenty of great guys in basketball, but they usually use clips to illustrate their points. Nekias Duncan and Mo Dakhil do threads of games on twitter to explain stuff. No idea about tennis.
the data really paints a bad picture of Kuldeep's ability as a bowler. He may not be the best, but deserves to be in the team way more than he has been. He still manages to be a part of the squad. I reckon spending some good time on first class can help him. As the great M A K Pataudi once said "You need to play your best players irrespective of the left right combinations". Yes there are roles as batsmen and bowlers one need to fill, and since most players now are good enough fielders, I don't think left right preference should deny a better player the chance to play for their country.
The data doesn't say much as he hasn't play much of recent times.
@@JarrodKimberYT So if selectors don't have enough data to back any decision, are they going with idea of, as you mentioned, the novelty of left arm wrist spin, and keeping him in the reserves for this long, early in his career, not getting enough games to grind his skills, don't you think it will harm his growth? I reckon he is better off out of the squad if he is not getting much games, he is still young enough to improve by playing domestic or County cricket if he gets an offer.
I've to go like that facebook page.
Sir you are a legend ..... Salute
Got it. So to summarise, selection is tough as shit. Tons of math. Even more history. Some predictive models and then wait for fate to take its course. Easy.
Love your content Jarrod. You might wanna relook those bar charts though :)
Which ones?
@@JarrodKimberYT Oh I just meant the formatting. I've spent a lot of my life working on Excels and surely there are better ways to visualize bar graphs :)
Don't forget india also have Harsha Bogle who is a king at picking a starting XI
underrated mate
Just subscribed...
Love agar conundrum ; is there even much more conundrums and theories
Oh my dude, I haven't even got to the Pringle Botham continuum yet
And..... what do you say about Axar? Thoughts? My friend
He’s bowled better than I thought, and batted worse. My guess is over time he’ll bowl worse and bat better. And he’s still not as good as Jadeja.
This guy is like Tifo Football for cricket.
I have no idea what that is but assume they're great.
@@JarrodKimberYT yup, its best channel on TH-cam analysing Football, like you are doing of cricket.
Here is the link
th-cam.com/video/5rMx3UE8XeU/w-d-xo.html
ECB should hire this guy, if they have not already in some form.
Hmmm, not sure I'm their flavour
Intresting
amazing presentation how you did this?
Magic
Please do one on Bangladesh-West Indies test series
I didn’t see it. And I’m in the middle of another series.