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- Marty Rathbun explains how Scientology leader David Miscavige micro-managed the film adaptation of L. Ron Hubbard's sci-fi book and then threw John Travolta under the bus when it was deemed one of the biggest disasters in Hollywood history.
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that "hey dave.. " is actully a pretty good impression of cruise :D
You want to see a good impression of Tom Cruise? Search Matt Damon on Tom Cruise
What an incredible insight into the private Scientology world of Miscavige, John Travolta and Tom Cruise. Wow.
They lived in a feedback loop in an echo chamber. They couldn't see the giant turkey they were making. There's a lot more wrong with the film than CGI.
It's amazing how involved they are.
wow, hilarious. i've still got my copy of battlefield earth on VHS. it's sitting up there on the mantlepiece. scientology's greatest contribution to humanity
I hadn't quite thought of it that way, but ya. Even when they celebrate their 1000th anniversary (if they make it that long), there Battlefield Earth will be. That can't be a comforting thought at Scientology headquarters.
+TheColonelKlink
Bizarre update: I recently acquired (and read) a copy of Hubbard's Battlefield Earth, the book. It's a 1000 page behemoth. I was really surprised; it's actually a fantastic post-apocalyptic sci-fi masterwork. It's a great story. The movie was awful but surprisingly the book is wonderful.
He was a passable sci fi writer who wrote drivel of that magnitude solely because he was paid by the word.
I don't know a whole lot of L. Ron Hubbard's Sci-Fi work, but what I can tell you, as a Sci-Fi fan is that Battlefield Earth was complete garbage. Perhaps Hubbard wrote better books, but this one didn't translate to film.
Passable perhaps, but he's not Ray Bradbury.
I'm embarrassed to say I was one of those knucklehead Scientologists in the back, clapping. FTR: We thought it was AWFUL, too, but I know for myself...I felt like I had to help support JT. After I went w/ OSA to a "Top secret Party". We were outside to make sure "All was Ok". John Travolta walked up, gave me a big hug and said: "I'll never forget you and Vicki" So after that, I decided to slip in. Got drinks and brought them to OSA congratulating them on their "Top Security". LOL!
Cool story. But how did u believe in "thetans"?
@@johnmontag If they told you about the “esoteric scriptures” on your first day, you’d never come back. Like many cons, it happens in stages and layers. Also, when everyone around you is acting like it’s working for them, you’re made to think you’re the crazy one if you don’t buy into it.
Thats cool man, but have you tried DMT?
This was SO enjoyable to watch!Thanks to all who put this hilarious tape together. There’s obviously trouble brewin in them thar hills of California. And we owe it all to the dozens of journalists and ex Scientologists who’ve been exposing the evil doings of this little pygmy.
Kinda makes you feel bad for John Travolta, how they threw him under the bus after it flopped. Dude needs to GTFO of Scientology already....
He can't. They have personal intel on him for blackmail purposes. Scientology is a very devious cult.
Probably the bisexual thing, but who knows with John Travolta any more?
SrslyAnnoyed Travolta still made ten million lol
So what if John Travolta’s gay or bi or whatever? He’s a millionaire, and in the age of Neil Patrick Harris and Caitlin Jenner, coming out could only be good for him. Heck, it worked wonders for George Takei!
the funniest bit about this that stands out in memory is how Travolta would do press and say "Oh, it's not a religious thing at all. It's just a good story and a good script." It's like come the fuck on, did Mel Gibson say "Oh it's just a great script and a great story" when he was making Passion of the Christ? Super weird. I guess it's because everyone knows it's embarrassing to claim BE is holy scripture...
Its not religious. Nothing about Battlefield Earth is in Scientology teachings. Its Just written by the Founder. He have written hundreds of these kind of stories as a science fiction writer. Thats No secret
@@futurenow7128 Exactly. No religion anywhere in it, nor any of his works.
Its still better than the Star Wars Holiday Special.
RiggsBF You got me thinking. It would be kind of fun to watch that wookie family and their human pals asphyxiate on Psychlo with the natives standing around and laughing at them!
Eric Wood Yes it would.
Man I forgot about that poor cow.
There’s so many great parts in this movie but I just loved how when Travoltas character is speaking in non translated Psychlo he had a super deep voice yet for some reason if you speak Psychlo he has a high pitched nasally voice. Priceless.
I can't tell if Tom Cruise hated it because it was yet another thing to get the media to hate Scientology, or if the movie is actually that fucking bad that even Tom Cruise hates it. I've seen it various times, and I gotta say it's one of the best unintentional comedies I've ever seen, but looking at it seriously... yeah it's a steaming pile of shit.
Yeah.. It's one of the best unintentional comedies I can think of. I'd say it's more fun to watch than things like Trolls 2.
I bet he just wishes he was in a movie based on his "prophets" book. But yes it is bad. What do you expect from a book written by the guy who created something as fucked up as Scientology.
LolSpecLol Well he was still in Oblivion, which is loosely Scientology propaganda. As for him BEING in the movie, I would pay to see a sequel where he plays a Psychlo, Nicolas Cage too.
Does anyone find it odd the "human" hero, actor Barry Pepper, looks a lot like a tall David Discavige?
I don't find it the slightest bit odd. David Miscavige has the worst short-man's complex since Joseph Stalin. (weird fact: Miscavige is only 5'1)
So at 5'3 im taller than that guy. :-)
Barry Pepper 5'10"
Oh please.
So back when Battlefield Earth came out, I got free passes to an advance critics screening. When it was over, we all sat in stunned silence at how bad it was, except for a small group of obvious Scientologists in the back who broke into enthusiastic applause. It was pathetically hilarious.
I was around when the book was first published Hubbard sent out a tape recorded Ron's Journal #38 to all Scientology Organizations about the book and other things. In the recording he state the book would come out in a TV mini series. It surprises me that Marty doesn't mention that part. Putting it out as a movie was just being plain Hollywood-Daffy. The format used with Battlestar Galactica mini series would've been perfect.
Good point. The book is terrific. A TV series would have been perfect to capture the twists and turns.
Marty Rathbun was the focus of an excellent documentary on Scientology that aired on Channel 4 last night here in the UK. It focused on his history in the church, the circumstances surrounding his departure and the harassment he endured when the Squirrel Busters parked outside of his old home. It also included an interview with Tony Ortega and a brief guest appearance by Tory in some stock footage.
It's on the 4oD website. Not sure if non-UK folk can watch it though.
The book was so much better than that movie it doesn't even follow the plot of the book.
It was a fair to average Sci Fi. It was just the target de jour for the haters and critiques who don't like anyone to get to big for their britches. There were some nice special effects. Not being a Sci Fi fan myself, I'm not the best judge but it held my interest enough. However, the book was fantastic! A page turner for the story telling, and remember I don't care for Sci Fi. Don't miss the book. And it's safe for kids. No F bombs, no, um, intimate stuff.
Still working on it.
0:38 “pulling out his-“ he had me in the first half, not gonna lie
Bus loads of Sea Org members and even Outer Org Trainees at Flag Land Base Florida were being carted back and forth from the public cinema with free tickets to watch it over and over to get the ratings up.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
It’s not inherently bad just mostly cut badly . Pieced awkwardly in a few moments. Some lines scenes either repeat to a degree or aren’t needed.
No, not bad at all. Could have been better in many ways. But read the book. It is outstanding and hard to make into a movie.
When first I saw that movie I thought it was a comedy or a parody and I looooved it :)
One of the best comedies ever
I fully admit it I LOVE that movie. one of the best worst movies ever made. Simply watch it as if you are watching a comic book. LOL at it every time.
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Have always meant to finally see it.
The scenes they showed looked perfectly terrible.
Love the attitude. Not everyone knows how to lower expectations for some movies.
I myself have absolutely NO connection to Scientology but loved "Battlefield Earth!" Am I seriously the only one!?
Yes.
Yes, many people enjoyed the movie, and it's clean. Sometimes critiques pick a target and dump on it. They don't like anyone getting to famous. Read the book. It's the best.
His part in Pulp Fiction evens it all out 😎💉 🔫
This is so goddamned funny.
What destroyed that movie was that there was film in the cameras.
To be fair I am part of a reigion that has also put out movies eith mixed reviews. I'm looking at you Left Behind. That being said I've seen Battlefield Earth 32 tines and it keeps getting funnier.
About 2:20... I watched Battlefield Earth again recently and thought the special effects were quite good actually. Could even hold up today. It was good blend of computer and practical effects with the exception of some brief bad blue screen moments.. There was also a lot of attention to detail and care when it came to the prosthetic and make up. Unfortunately the tilted camera work, writing, directing and overacting tainted that.
Ahh huh huh huh ha
I would highly recommend making an appointment with an optometrist.
They should have made the psychlos a reptilian species. That way it would have made more sense with them being so barbaric yet having advanced technology from conquering more advanced but passive races.
It isn't a bad movie. Yes, some good special effects and Terl made my stomach crawl. Read the book, it is much better and impossible to get into a movie.
Do a poll against David Miscavige and his helpers and go to Gold Base , cal 911 and escort him out of there
Imagine if they had Tom Cruise instead of Barry Pepper.
@Főfasírozó wait a sec....that would still be a better movie than the POS this movie was...
How can someone as loved and powerful as Travolta turn into a huge bowl of mush
His Tom Cruise impersonation is flawfless in the most subtle way possible 😂😂😂
Depends what they have on him, all of his auditing would have been filmed !!!
*BATTLEFIELD EARTH SHOULD HAVE BEEN A TYLER PERRY MOVIE*
what has happened since the good ole days?
I found Battlefield Earth to be a very funny comedy....laughed our asses off most of the time.
I WANT _ NEED TO WATCH THIS MOVIE !!! It looks really funny
it is, it's hilarious af
So we can blame Slappy for John Travolta's hammy performance?
Best movie ever! Made me laugh so hard on so many parts.
Do Scientologist always talk in acronym? SP, JT, BE.
I actually enjoyed battlefield earth
***** that's actually "Mentos" the freshmaker. Manto is a Chinese steamed bread roll.
I enjoyed it too, just not the way most people enjoy movies. Battlefield Earth is one of the top 3 greatest comedy movies ever made, and it's one of my favorite movies of all time because of how fucking hilarious it is, hahaha.
"MAN ANIMALS CAN'T FLY!"
It is a decent movie. And no F bombs nor any porn. Nice change. Safe for kids. Earth is doomed and the good guy saved the world. Good theme.
the thing about this movie is... it is a basic outline of the anunaki invasion...i recognized that straight away and as a result enjoyed the movie..
Guys, do yourselves a big favor.... "Rifftrax Battlefield Earth".... the Mystery Science Theatre cast rip the film to shreads. Totally lives up it!
i love bizz like this
what time is it there??? @ 1:11 Anyone else think that clock is fuc#ed up???
Why did JT in this movie have four fingers and a thumb on one hand and 5 fingers and a thumb on the other hand?
Is this clip from a documentary? Which one if so?
Neil Perrin I don't think so. I think this is Mark Bunker setting down his camera and making original content. Maybe it got used somewhere else, I've only seen it here.
It was put together for an event at Cinefamily in Los Angeles. They did a night about Scientology and movies. BE Screenwriter spoke after this video clip. Another clip was created for the event about the making of The Profit but didn't get shown.
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Vanvanbluz: David Miscreant!
obaidCarkey: David Miscarriage!
big UPS yall for cleverness.
and I might suddenly grow A THIRD ARM
lol there are lots of quality quotes in it.....
from what I understand, after the BE fiasco and the death of his (shhhhh) autistic son, Travolta's about to bolt the "church"
Should have been a Tyler Perry movie...
The one cool scene from this film is when the alien antagonist Terl, the main Psyclo played by John Travolta puts Jonnie, the protagonist human played by Barry Pepper into that learning machine and one second from Jonnie’s point of view Terl is saying “See sae sem,” and then the learning machine kicks in and beams the Psychlo language into Jonnie’s brain and all of a sudden, once it finishes and Terl shut off the machine, the Alien gibberish turns from “See sae sem,” to “Und-Under-Understand? Un-Under STAAAND MEEEE!?” That’s actually very cool.
Poor JT, I wonder if he will ever know how much they hate him.
LIES!! ALL LIES!! LIES!! ALL LIES!!! PIES!! FAT PIES!!!!!! PIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What , they are butt buddies, whoops, I mean bosom buddies
So, John Travolta was out ethics? He should have seen the writing on the wall
JT? SP? BE? What, do Scientologists speak in abbreviations or some shit?
"Battlefield Earth" is entertaining. Doesn't make me want to become a Hubbard acolyte. It's a pretty good Sci Fi story, and a decent film adaptation. In fiction, especially Sci Fi & Fantasy, improbable things happen. That's why people read the books and watch the films.
If one can get past the hysteria, there's a positive moral & social theme that's not the property of Hubbard or Scientology - the idea that Humans have innate abilities to: reason, define right & wrong, and cooperate.
Dwarf? What's wrong with Vertically Challenged people?
i wonder what Roger Christian the director would make of these claims
I was an editor on Battlefield Earth and I never knew who was making such awful choices besides Roger Christian. I am not a Scientologist and John Travolta does not deserve to be thrown under the bus, He is a good actor and a nice guy!
I felt kind of embarrassed the whole time I watched this movie.
Can't say I like Marty at all, he doesn't take any responsibilty for his own wrongdoings and always sounds like he is watering down his own involvement when remembering things like this. Mike Rinder seems way more genuine.
Maybe you don’t know but Marty is back under Scientology’s control as of 4 years ago
@@Sampsonoff You have a link to show that. Can't see anything online.
@@Sampsonoff False. No love between the two at all. Rathbun doesn't want back, and scn wouldn't have him on any terms.
@@ellebelle4094 I agree Marty doesn’t want back into the good graces of CoS. But it’s blatantly obvious they paid him to make these videos attacking the anti-CoS crowd.
@@Sampsonoff Not really obvious that Scn paid him to make the videos, but it would have to pay to use his content. That is a legal issue. Why would you give for free your work? You wouldn't. Marty is just glad that his content exposes the Remini/Rinder/Ortega, etc., gang's malfeasance.
David Miscavige!? LOL
You missed the point. Half facetious...but really, is shortness evil?
The CG wasn't the worst I'd seen, but for a hollywood film of the time it was still rather bad. But sadly Travolta, and NOONE, even seemed to try in that, and those were good actors. Then you have the camera angles.....
uh NO. BATTLE FIELD EARTH = SUMERIAN ANNUNAKI TALE.
the movie is about the nephilim
It's no Star Trek or Star Wars, but it's a great to watch at 2 in the morning.
Hilarious! Love part when Marty says "Tom Cruise: "BE man?" DM replies: "oh that piece of shit!" haha DM has some gall, totes washed his hands of it! and JT is probs still under that bus!
Just for the record.....I kinda like Battlefield Earth.....Man-Animal..."Do you want LUNCH?" It's also super ironic that the Psclos are basically the modern COS...gotta get that leverage.
Robert Moor The Psychlos live up to their name. They represent the psychopathic side of humanity quite nicely, and that applies to both the film and the novel.
@@ericwood3709 Good point. Their character made me queasy just reading the book.
I LOVE WISE BEARD MAN
As an actor he is brilliant in this movie... Just saying. I got grankids who rewatch Grease Now that's acting!
Imagine humans dominated a planet for one thousand years and yet we know fuck all about the animals that inhabit said planet. Really??
the book was better yes way better in explaining things and being more logical
The shocking part is that anyone who spent time with Miscavage, saw how narcissistic, shallow and selfish he is on a daily basis, would ever think he WOULDN’T throw someone under the bus.
PEOPLE SHOW YOU WHO THEY ARE. IT’S YOUR JOB TO BELIEVE THEM!!!
It's the Nazi Titanic all over again. You....under the bus!
BTW what the hell was up with Travolta's accent in that insane accent?
0:38 What did he say? Pulling out his what?
Orange Hand dictaphone
LIES!! ALL LIES!! LIES!! ALL LIES!!! PIES!! FAT PIES!!!!!! PIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's so incredible, when one hears these stories, one wonders how Cruise and Travolta could just be played like that - how could they not know or understand what is happening?
How can they just go along with all this?
Seems like one could rephrase a quote from Star Wars: "The con is very strong with these ones". :/
Leave it to DM to take a great book and fuck it up beyond all recognition. The movie should have been a trilogy as a movie. I loaned out my paper back copy to 4 other people and they loved it.
What's this from?
I actually liked the movie, and I'm a big time Star Wars, Star Trek, person! It was different!
It's a perfectly good movie. Read the book. It's terrific.
Of course, the leader of Scientology would be the only one on the planet to think that Battlefield Earth is a masterpiece.
I agree that the book could have been made into a good movie. Boring, bloated, preachy books are made into great movies all the time. Hell, I've never met a single person who read the series of books that became The Godfather, and the few critical reviews I've read of it call it one of the most ridiculously padded series of novels in existence, boring, boring, boring. But the movies were groundbreaking.. why? Simple, they had a great screenplay writer, and little executive meddling.
I like how tom cruise was like What the fuck did I just watch! i bet Tom wanted to pour acid in his eyes to get that out of his head.
I do wonder if it could have been better had the film makers were left to get on with it. But then we are talking about a Hubbard book here.
The fact that the whole Hubbard story from Battlefield Earth was a dodgy rip off from the earlier John Christopher novel The Tripod Trilogy has also forgotten.
The book was much more entertaining (and that’s not saying much).
I thought the film was actually decent. Until the end when technologically impaired nature people learns how to fly fighter planes really fast and good for some reason...
Yup, Davey...when someone does something you don't like, he or she MUST be an SP, right? This movie was utter shit, and the fact that Davey thought it was good (and the best thing that ever happened to Scientology in two decades) speaks volumes. By the way, I highly recommend checking out the Nostalgia Critic's review of this film...you can find it at thatguywiththeglasses, or here on this site, easily enough.
This poor guy marty has been dragged back into cos. whether he wanted it or not.
fuck him
Not true.
Battlefield Earth or Howard the Duck? Hmmmmm...
I'll take Howard the Duck any day.
Smedleywallacekennedy ~Howard the Duck will always be the worst movie ever. Battlefield Earth is at least unintentionally funny.
The movie was so bad steven segal should have been in it
Hahaha I remember going to see this in the cinema when I was a kid, what an insanely bad film
well, then you will enjoy, Plan 9 From Out of Space... at least that movie is funny, and you will want to tell your friends about it....
Just saw it. All the hype of it being the worst movie ever. I have to say... for 95 cents... it's worth buying on Amazon.
i love this movie. i call this supergrade"b" an excellent midnight movie.
"b" movies are all just for fun. god bless hollywood.
It's a perfectly decent movie. Really decent with no F bombs and no porn. Let anyone watch it, even kids.
Yeah, it was the CGI that did it.... (LOL)
So di Msicavige have leverage over Travolta or vice versa?
Rumor has it during his e meter sessions Travolta reveals his bisexuality, all sessions are recorded. However, it's 2021 not 1978 and most people today don't care.
What is taking so going on KR?