"Miscavige is crucial to the end of Scientology" - A conversation with Mike Rinder

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  • @EfrainRiveraJunior
    @EfrainRiveraJunior ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Learning about Scientology helped me and my wife see through our cult's bullshit. Thanks, Mike!

    • @yvesandrethevenot3489
      @yvesandrethevenot3489 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah! Mike is great to beat every and any cult. He's great!

    • @ibrandieshay
      @ibrandieshay ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. He and Leah’s & Sister Wives series helped me realize that JW’s were cults over many years. Now my immediate and I are out since a July 2022.

    • @EfrainRiveraJunior
      @EfrainRiveraJunior ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ibrandieshay - Welcome to Freedom. We are out since October 2018.

  • @dogwalker338
    @dogwalker338 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Two of my favorite “cult breakers”!! Great interview.

  • @EfrainRiveraJunior
    @EfrainRiveraJunior ปีที่แล้ว +158

    Mike and Leah's work has helped many Jehovah's Witnesses to wake up. Very nice side effect!

    • @goldie862
      @goldie862 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A lovely bonus indeed!!!

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did Mike write “going clear”?

    • @goldie862
      @goldie862 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michael-4k4000 No, Mike wrote "A Billion Years." I believe he may have appeared in the movie version of going clear, though.

    • @kissthapistol
      @kissthapistol ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michael-4k4000 Hi Michael! Mike was in Going Clear's documentary but Lawrence Wright wrote the book. Have you read any other Scientology-related books? I suggest Blown for Good by Marc Headley, if you haven't already.

    • @lianidri80
      @lianidri80 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kissthapistol I also read Beyond Belief by Jenna Miscavige. This one is great since she was a slave at the Hemet base for many years.

  • @CornOnTheCop
    @CornOnTheCop ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Mike is one of the most important people needed for ending Scientology given his experience and knowledge of everything relating to Scientology. Imagine all the dirt Mike has on Miscabbage. It goes without saying, the cult has engaged in many crimes over the decades. I am sure Mike knows a lot more than he has made public.

    • @lornahuddleston1453
      @lornahuddleston1453 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope Mike has good protection against DM and Co.🙏💖

  • @mlove.1376
    @mlove.1376 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Leah's work rewoke me. I had been out for many years and never could put my finger on why I was so different. I then realized how many years of my life that I have/had attitudes that dont serve me and where they came from. Then Lloyd, once stumbled upon his work, he had a woman mental health professional and I realized that I have a chance of having chronic trauma. Lloyd also gave me understanding of the different beliefs that weren't the truth along with bible timelines that helped me not to have doubt and that I did the right thing by leaving. I doubted for 40 years. I am so grateful to all of you involved in my process. I look forward to your book! Congratulations Mike. Thanks for being on Lloyd's YT.

  • @aspco.
    @aspco. ปีที่แล้ว +48

    His book is AMAZING. Absolute must read amongst several other stellar books on Scientology. Spent three days using every spare minute to finish it, his recollections are so vivid and horrifying.

    • @womenfrom0202
      @womenfrom0202 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The audiobook is read by Mike himself, amazing to listen to his life that way

    • @rozsheehy6146
      @rozsheehy6146 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@womenfrom0202
      I didn't know there was an audio book!! I'm getting it! Thanks! 💙💚💛

    • @samueldouglas797
      @samueldouglas797 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@womenfrom0202 the lady that works full time to expose scyintolegy

    • @alba4203
      @alba4203 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guarda che i tuoi amici Lugli Hanno fuori la foto di Flavio quello sano che ha disconnesso da Renata Claudio il mago si fa per dire e titi i falliti truffatori ridicoli.......Ha disconnesso da truffatori altro che Silvia Toffanin

    • @talvimango9229
      @talvimango9229 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, exactly. It was a challenge to put it down and go to work every morning, and I just barely managed to not be late for work a couple of times.

  • @AnneOfGreenEggsAndHam
    @AnneOfGreenEggsAndHam ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Clearwater (ish) local here! Hi Mike! I can’t begin to express how grateful I am to have had several dear friends wake up years after exposing me. Your work is so important. Love from Tarpon.
    Very engrossing interview as usual, Lloyd.

  • @MidnightAndLuna
    @MidnightAndLuna ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Mikes book is incredible! I finished it in two days. I couldn’t put it down.

    • @goldie862
      @goldie862 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Jen!!! 😘

    • @MidnightAndLuna
      @MidnightAndLuna ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@goldie862 Hi Goldie! 😘

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is Mike Rinder single?

    • @MidnightAndLuna
      @MidnightAndLuna ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michael-4k4000 he has a wife. Her name is Christie, I think

    • @TBOTSS
      @TBOTSS ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MidnightAndLuna Who has dumped him.

  • @yvesandrethevenot3489
    @yvesandrethevenot3489 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Mike Rinder is a gem. I hated his guts when he was a scientology aparatchik. I find him amazingly good and useful for everyone to read and listen to now. Plus I love his humor. Great Guy. Love his Book.

  • @Jezzebel1313
    @Jezzebel1313 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Martha Stout - The Sociopath Next Door"
    explains the urgently needed basic knowledge that we all need, to understand and recognize. And it's in a way that is understandable for everyone and no boring science lecture. It's a wonderful basis for training your instincts. Great that you mention the book.

    • @ianwalton284
      @ianwalton284 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had to kick half the people out of my life after reading that book. Especially my animal torturing brother.

  • @UseADamnCoaster
    @UseADamnCoaster ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I agree, I could listen to Mike talk all day. He's well-spoken and objective while still driving his point home. When I'm not broke I plan on getting his book and reading it as well.

  • @laurachow8150
    @laurachow8150 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Fantastic video! I could listen to you two talk for hours, two heavy hitters in terms of knowledge/experience with these cults. Bravo

  • @Fabian-ew7et
    @Fabian-ew7et ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wonderful interview! As a former Scientologist, I went from being an empathic young girl to a judgmental person. It was the exact opposite of my original path I So
    Slowly done that I didn’t see it.

  • @user-vo4wc2jz8g
    @user-vo4wc2jz8g ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You really helped me Lloyd. I really appreciate the slings and arrows you take in order to stand up and do what you do so well

  • @bigboithe8th
    @bigboithe8th ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great interview! If you haven’t yet watched the JW Aftermath with Mike, Leah and Lloyd, it is an absolute must. Thanks to people like Mike, Leah and Lloyd, hopefully one day Scientology and the WT will no longer be around to destroy people’s lives.

  • @Rawnblade13
    @Rawnblade13 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I listened to Mike Rinder's entire book. Definitely recommend.

    • @MidnightAndLuna
      @MidnightAndLuna ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I read it too. Absolutely insane. I have a lot of respect for Mike. There were many parts that were heartbreaking but I would have to say the worst was worn he went to FLAG to see his son because he heard he had cancer. His son was there but they wouldn’t let him see his son. At that same time, his son was under close watch because he wanted to leave. So close! If he would have been able to see him, he might have gotten him out. I cried at that part

    • @Rawnblade13
      @Rawnblade13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MidnightAndLuna Listening to him read it is great too.

    • @MidnightAndLuna
      @MidnightAndLuna ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Rawnblade13 he said he narrates it. I should get the audiobook too.

  • @willrussell2583
    @willrussell2583 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What is quite amazing is the way both of these men choose their words. So carefully, from the experience of having their words dissected and banned by unique, entire, organizations.

  • @lawrence5117
    @lawrence5117 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    An illuminating discussion. Thanks Lloyd and Mike.

  • @toriwolf5978
    @toriwolf5978 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow what a great interview such a great guy going to see if I can get a hold of his book…please do these kinds of interviews coming so interesting and lots to learn . Thank you loyd for the work you are doing you are helping so many….❤

  • @robertwatson6888
    @robertwatson6888 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Scientology claims that this book is all lies and fabrications but what legal action did they take...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!! That speaks volumes.

  • @Julescage1
    @Julescage1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    PLEASE READ THIS!! It's crucial that everyone understands this about sociopaths and why you must shut them down no matter how they are connected to you! I was married to a sociopath. I didn't realize it until I started researching sociopathy. My now ex husband put me through absolute chaos and hell for 20 years. He had ONE very weak moment ( rare). I had rented an apartment and was moving out against his wishes. I was DONE! He was crying real tears ( very rare for this to be genuine). These were his exact words that FINALLY made it all make sense to me... " I GET A RUSH OUT OF GETTING AWAY WITH THINGS. IT'S A FEELING I CANT EXPLAIN AND IVE BEEN DOING IT SINCE I WAS A LITTLE KID. I CAN'T STOP. IT'S THE WAY MY BRAIN WORKS."
    That was what FINALLY made me understand who these people are! They have no empathy. They can't learn to. They can't. Its not in their make-up. They cannot feel REAL LOVE. THIS RUSH THEY GET IS THE BEST FEELING THEY CAN REACH. THIS IS HOW THEY SPEND THEIR ENTIRE LIVES. PLEASE RESEARCH SOCIOPATHY!!

  • @StKrane
    @StKrane ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I agree; could listen to Mike for hours! Thank you for this!

  • @geoffreybunting9837
    @geoffreybunting9837 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I watched John Sweeney and his documentary about Scientology a few years ago. I'm glad Mike Rinder and J Sweeney have made up, and I'm even gladder (yes gladder) that Mike Rinder woke up, escaped Scientology, and can begin to live a full life

  • @knittiotsavant
    @knittiotsavant ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fascinating interview. I ordered Mike’s book. Can’t wait to start reading.

  • @JudgeFredd
    @JudgeFredd ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Mike is really courageous to speak out

    • @alba4203
      @alba4203 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dal 2007 e non gli è mai successo niente che coraggioso è ahahahah siete ridicoli lui la leah remini la j lo Michelle Obama bullshit cult democratici psicotic lunatic party criminals drugs pusher bullshit woman woke gender.qiestioni politiche questi sono utili idioti secondo i dem secondo me Fanno perdere una marea di balle solo Fedez la d Urso la Palombelli la cavallo la odescalchi la Hunziker parodi Parodi Gori ci credono.coglioni dem sono identici ai coglioni Americani dem ed europei.come GLI psichiatri e psicologi of course

  • @jillanderson3665
    @jillanderson3665 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Drawn to the title like a moth- so very well crafted, I'm in awe...the most positive upbeat backhand I've ever read. Thank you, honorable sirs.🌩

  • @EfrainRiveraJunior
    @EfrainRiveraJunior ปีที่แล้ว +12

    In my experience, 100% of Elders and Traveling Overseers or _not_ good people.
    All Elders who the rank-and-file describe as "good," end up being removed from their position within a year. Only the evil ones thrive in that organization.

  • @aaronburns9538
    @aaronburns9538 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I just found your channel sir and I'd like to say tongue in cheek thank God for you. It is so refreshing to find another former Jehovah's Witness who didn't just end up replacing it with an equally ridiculous form of Christianity

  • @mjq243
    @mjq243 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just love Mike - great interview!

  • @darimari9814
    @darimari9814 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mikes book is amazing!
    Finished audio in few days.
    Have JW in my family, stuck there for about 45 years 🥺
    Hi from Croatia

    • @suzyq2389
      @suzyq2389 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, Croatia!
      Hi from Becky in Orlando.
      Hugs, too!

  • @juliehigbee7398
    @juliehigbee7398 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What a great collaboration here!

  • @maryhamric
    @maryhamric ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a great book. Mike...I admire you so much. In your example I have taken heart in starting a great part of my life over again.

  • @kelliintexas3575
    @kelliintexas3575 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It breaks my heart knowing Lisa could have found renewed purpose in speaking out about Scientology. She just was making huge moves & could have woken up SO MANY PEOPLE! 🥰

  • @Kiytcu
    @Kiytcu ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mike helped me wake up and get out of JWs

  • @FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN
    @FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed this, Mike really is just a nice presence

  • @talvimango9229
    @talvimango9229 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the book because of this video. I more or less binge-read it and can say that it's amazing!

  • @ebtbmb
    @ebtbmb ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It's sad that all these Sea Org members are toiling their lives away with bureaucratic busy work and believe they're contributing to "saving the planet". They're good people who could be putting all that effort and heart into something meaningful and productive.

    • @sparklecanada0112
      @sparklecanada0112 ปีที่แล้ว

      ebtbmb.
      Same can be said about those at Bethel and all of the Staunch JW Rank and File. 💔
      Wasting their Precious, Short Lived Lives upon a Fantasy Based Cult with No True Benefits into the Future.😔☹

  • @katrinasmith2843
    @katrinasmith2843 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Empaths do possess a propensity for attracting narcissists. The information to support empaths through the process of leaving narcissistic people or groups is immense. It's very important to educate oneself to spot those red flags and don't ignore!
    Great interview! Thank you Lloyd and Mike for sharing.

  • @juliabridges7731
    @juliabridges7731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Looking forward to reading Mike's book. Yes to the book, The Sociopath Next Door. Sociopaths are often high ranking persons in organizations. Their way to the top leaves a trail of heartbreak. They are not necessarily criminal but are experts are ruining people's lives and robbing them of true happiness.

  • @James_Bowie
    @James_Bowie ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Miscavige is now in the same position as Hubbard: an invisible man hunted by summons servers.

  • @ablue7335
    @ablue7335 ปีที่แล้ว

    just watching this and was reminded as to why i am, and how very, very much so…i am very grateful to you lloyd!🙏
    it’s been maybe 3 years for me now since i read everything i could find and watch everything i could find and it’s incredible to me that i feel as okay as i do. it’s been a lot of hard work. but i do know for a fact that you were and continue to be a mainstay in keeping me grounded and sane.
    can’t thank you enough.

    • @LloydEvans
      @LloydEvans  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are so welcome, thanks for the kind words!

  • @cindymiller-flint4698
    @cindymiller-flint4698 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks, Mike. The book was absolutely fabulous

  • @janebradford2271
    @janebradford2271 ปีที่แล้ว

    When Mike said you helped me change my life regarding people commenting on his book, that's how us ex jehovah witnesses fell about you Lloyd . You help many people thank you.

    • @LloydEvans
      @LloydEvans  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much Jane!

  • @robswitzer8334
    @robswitzer8334 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mike's point agreeing that sociopaths are attracted to cults and often rise to the top made me immediately think of David Koresh.

  • @StefWokeUp
    @StefWokeUp ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great interview!

  • @Zabora1
    @Zabora1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep doing what youre doing Mike!

  • @jaredcody6869
    @jaredcody6869 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a really great interview with Mike and I was glad you brought up the question/observation of how the rigid/outdated/not adapting to the times kind of approach is one of the leading contributors to their downfall.

  • @b.w.7588
    @b.w.7588 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    One thing I like about Mike Rinder is that he never tries to dehumanize all Scientologists as individual people, much like how Lloyd doesn't dehumanize all Jehovah's Witnesses as individual people. I feel that some ex-Jehovah' s Witnesses, ex-Scientologists, and even ex-Mormons have a tendency to demonize all current members of their former religious community. It's important to be able to separate individual people from the institution as much as possible. We have to recognize that we're all fallible human beings who have flaws and make mistakes.
    That doesn't mean, of course, that individuals in such religious groups can't be subject to any sort of criticism. But I feel that it is important not to view such people as being "evil".

    • @s.a.6082
      @s.a.6082 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I appreciate this reminder as an ex-Mormon! Sometimes the more you separate yourself from the bullshit, the easier it is to dehumanize the people.

    • @claremandalas2121
      @claremandalas2121 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lot of references to Jehovah Witness. Move on Scientology I can see one a mile away, lol

  • @christines5430
    @christines5430 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike's book ' A Billion Year's' is amazing! I struggled to pace myself because I didnt want stay up all night listening to it, or would have been useless at work the next day. Still only took 2 days🤣

  • @flyingardilla143
    @flyingardilla143 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6:07 Whenever someone says 'The Greater Good' I reflexively repeat it like Hot Fuzz

  • @pppantz
    @pppantz ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hahaha, "If Tibor is gracious," sounds like the prayer of a new cult, Tibor be with you. His grace abides😛

    • @exploatores
      @exploatores ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Maybe we should troll JWs and other religious pepole. Saying we belive in the grace of Tibor. because we have seen it.

    • @user-vo4wc2jz8g
      @user-vo4wc2jz8g ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm a true believer of "He who is gracious" 🙏

    • @fishmilk0
      @fishmilk0 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@exploatores OH MY GOD YES

    • @namename4012
      @namename4012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So does the Dude! Maybe they are One.

    • @sparklecanada0112
      @sparklecanada0112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      djhorizontl.
      Or the newest Star Wars movie catchphrases?🤔
      "If Tibor is gracious"..."Tibor Be With You".😁😂😊👍👍🤝🏼😎

  • @lizw.4901
    @lizw.4901 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great interviewing skills. Enjoyed this conversation - thank you.

  • @rasputanrasputan1380
    @rasputanrasputan1380 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A family member of mine was involved in Scientology, he had a drinking problem…he tried to recruit me… right away I thought it was bullshit, I was labeled a Suppressive Person… he disconnected from me… I was okay with the disconnect.. after a few years and lots of money, he came to his senses and walked away from Scientology….he still Drinks..

  • @stephaniefees6059
    @stephaniefees6059 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks!

    • @LloydEvans
      @LloydEvans  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Our pleasure! Thanks so much for the generous support Stephanie!

  • @texbookie
    @texbookie ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike is a true hero who works diligently to undo the harm he unwittingly caused. Repentance if you will.

  • @freedom35pedrick
    @freedom35pedrick ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought the kindle version and love the book😀

  • @b.w.7588
    @b.w.7588 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I enjoy hearing Mike Rinder speak. He's very knowledgeable about the more controversial aspects of Scientology. He's also quite the, what would you say...he's a rather sexy silver fox as well. He was great on the A&E cable TV channel's reality show "LEAH REMINI: SCIENTOLOGY AND THE AFTERMATH" (2016-2019). I liked Remini as an actress back when she played the minor role of Stacey Carosi on the NBC network TV channel's cult classic sitcom "SAVED BY THE BELL" (1989-1993). Here's an interesting fact: Leah Remini's "SAVED BY THE BELL" costar Lark Voorhies, known for playing the role of Lisa Turtle on the series, is a Jehovah's Witness.

    • @suzyq2389
      @suzyq2389 ปีที่แล้ว

      YES to the Silver Fox part, y'all. Thx for mentioning this not at all hidden factoid! Who knew that when I got to age 64 I would still feel like I am 27?! smh... Still, a bit of lust does make life more worth living!

  • @BuffyLynn
    @BuffyLynn ปีที่แล้ว

    Greetings Lloyd. I hope you’ve now had the opportunity to read Mikes book. To me it’s one of the best from any of the former Scientologists. The audio version was quite fun as he reads it himself😊

  • @pattyb1120
    @pattyb1120 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ironic How the cults say they are the way to live But Yours and Mikes empathy and actions now are such a lovely and kind work actually live!!!’❤❤

  • @rosebudame
    @rosebudame ปีที่แล้ว

    EXCELLENT vlog!

  • @MrPaulus252
    @MrPaulus252 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss the Fair game pod cast but I am glad you guys are there to talk about it.

  • @James_Bowie
    @James_Bowie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Rise above the slime and become the chief jellyfish" ... priceless! 😂

  • @Jo-razz
    @Jo-razz ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike Render's book is a great read.
    I went down the rabbit hole of finding out what Scientology is about.
    Seen all seasons of Scientology and the aftermath, Two documentaries on Scientology, and TH-cam channels, like Growing up in Scientology, Chris Shelton & approx. A dozen interviews with Mike Render.
    I thought what else could I get out of this book? I learned very quickly a lot.:)
    Plus how it was beautifully written, even if you didn't know much about Scientology, you will still understand it, & get a lot out of it.
    In my opinion, makes for a great book;)
    Side note- with Nexium I am happy that Justice is done. On the same token, when everyone talks about Nexium, one of the points they bring up I'd how he took a lot of ideas, for a lack of a better word, from Scientology.
    Yet nothing is being done about Scientology???
    It annoys me. Because I know the answer.
    They are protected by the label of religion to be abusive & or do criminal acts.

  • @danathomas3479
    @danathomas3479 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I read your book! It was a great read. I’m wondering if when you were removed from one job to either a punishment or another job. We’re you actually replaced? And I am wondering if they were treated differently than you were or was it mostly busy work and no one actually replaced you? I am interested because I almost got pulled into Scientology, in my younger years. But somehow I didn’t trust them… they were at the Del Mar fair.

  • @corneliusantonius3108
    @corneliusantonius3108 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike Rinder Big Boss Man.

  • @denisadellinger4543
    @denisadellinger4543 ปีที่แล้ว

    very enlightening.

  • @TracyDoodle
    @TracyDoodle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you love listening to him … as I do … listen to his book on audible… it’s fantastic 😊

  • @rameysavoie7442
    @rameysavoie7442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if there is a correlation between losing one's religion and loving Star Wars. I didn't watch any of it until I was no longer a believer, and now I am hooked

  • @robertavila4653
    @robertavila4653 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mike is doing gods work, xenu is my homeboy 👍

  • @andreadiamond7115
    @andreadiamond7115 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lloyd? Is the storm trooper still protecting the Mike Rinder bobble head? Love Mike and Leah. Great content.

  • @harambetidepod1451
    @harambetidepod1451 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    his book is great

  • @crunchy3756
    @crunchy3756 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can listen to Mike "ramble" for ages as well

  • @cdd4248
    @cdd4248 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:30 -I am picturing David Miscavige typing away at his keyboard and screaming at one of his flunkies..."How you do spell socks?...As in old...is it sox or socks". LOL

  • @sstaners1234
    @sstaners1234 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fact: When asked about Scientology, Charles Manson responded that it was too crazy for him.
    Let that sink in.

  • @RealPumpkinJay
    @RealPumpkinJay ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OH WOW!!

  • @ln5594
    @ln5594 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BRAVE LION🦁

  • @JohnDoe-ym5ly
    @JohnDoe-ym5ly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hubbard could recall trillions of years of his past lives and lived in civilizations "far more advanced" than 1950/1960s America. Apparently they weren't 30 years ahead of us or Hubbard would've known the internet was coming. He said the same essential things happened repeatedly over the trillions of years.

  • @susanmurphy958
    @susanmurphy958 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let's hope that by the end of 2023 Scientology will be completely demolished.

    • @sparklecanada0112
      @sparklecanada0112 ปีที่แล้ว

      susanmurphy958.
      And WT along with it! 🤝🏼👍👍😣👎👎⚰

  • @dakrontu
    @dakrontu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If people leave Scientology, does the last one to leave get all the buildings? (Or would the last person be saddled with the rent bills and property taxes?) What if Miscavige runs it all down and just converts Scientology Inc into a property empire (albeit with a beefy legal department for running financial scams)?

  • @ItsNotShakespeare
    @ItsNotShakespeare ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic title

  • @naradaian
    @naradaian ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it the case that LR Hubbard was a cia sockpuppet using their gameplay in Scientology? _ initially and then frightened onto life on the boat with kids to avoid his ex founders?

    • @fairyspunfibers9098
      @fairyspunfibers9098 ปีที่แล้ว

      The CIA would never have needed such a bumbling, incompetent idiot as LRH was. Remember: he effed up *everything* he tried. He is believed to have suffered from some sort of brain malfunction that led him to simply not be able to think clearly. His whole life was a total fubar ... literally.

  • @indiandaeng
    @indiandaeng ปีที่แล้ว

    My question is why hasnt someone filed a Habeas Corpus motion in court to find out if Miscaviges wife is still alive or being held prisoner?

  • @LOOOVEIT
    @LOOOVEIT ปีที่แล้ว

    The JW episode of Leah and Mike's show had such a heavy vibe. I could barely watch. This has the same heaviness. I wonder if anyone else notices / feels this.

    • @malkaz9167
      @malkaz9167 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Loveit…Of course, it had a heavy vibe. What went on with Scientology was very heavy. How human beings can treat other human beings in such a cruel, hard-hearted way is beyond my understanding.

  • @bubbercakes528
    @bubbercakes528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For those of you who watch this and wonder how so many could have been fooled; need I remind you that there are billions of Abrahamic religion followers out there who have been just as gullible! No religion has been able to solve the world’s problems after thousands of years. Let’s try something new; like just loving one another!

  • @jerelull9629
    @jerelull9629 ปีที่แล้ว

    mike: keep displaying that Emmy -- and point out what it's for more often. Yeah, it's a bit self-serving, but it's for doing such a good job exposing scientology to the light of truth.

  • @freedom35pedrick
    @freedom35pedrick ปีที่แล้ว

    Revoking the tax status would go miles in helping the demise….

  • @Goldenfeather77
    @Goldenfeather77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soon, David Miscavige ( shrimpy) will be gone and we won't have to see him.
    Extortion charges perhaps?

  • @wunkle9523
    @wunkle9523 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Jehovah's Witnesses want your time, not your money.

    • @goldie862
      @goldie862 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's even worse. You can make more money but time is really precious!

    • @b.w.7588
      @b.w.7588 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wunkle,
      If one has money to give them, I'm sure the Watchtower Society wants it as well as their time (and the unquestioning obedience and dedication of the average Jehovah's Witness).

    • @sparklecanada0112
      @sparklecanada0112 ปีที่แล้ว

      wunkle9523.
      Are You 100% Certain of that?🤔
      Try refusing to give any "Monetary Donations" for a Year (or 5)...See how soon that Someone will attempt to Guilt You into "Giving From The Heart"( or similarly worded Pressure Tactic).
      WT exists for Narcissistic Reasons; and one big one is Monetary Greed and Affluence. None of the GB are living at Poverty Level or Dress As Struggling Paycheck To Paycheck, like some Rank and File JWs do.

  • @kathymetzger9681
    @kathymetzger9681 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if the next person to take over for Miscavige would be Tom Cruise?

  • @Hypatiaization
    @Hypatiaization ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Lloyd, I love your intro/outro song. May I know the name of the artist and the song? Thank you! 😊

  • @cor-z8m
    @cor-z8m ปีที่แล้ว

    What a scam! People are so stupid! Keep your money! Be good people! There’s no written formula for a perfect life!

  • @Cat_Woods
    @Cat_Woods ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great interview. I find it puzzling that Mike says that Scientology can't evolve. I thought seeking donations was explicitly against Hubbard's policy and yet that's most of what they do now. Just as an example. I believe there are quite a few others. Scientology evolves; it just can't admit that it evolves.

  • @BuffyLynn
    @BuffyLynn ปีที่แล้ว

    P.S. David Mascavaige had a FAKE Emmy made after the Ted Koppel interview but Mike has the real deal which is proudly shown in all his videos😂

  • @aussie405
    @aussie405 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He still has a bit of an Aussie accent.

  • @pamelaruth7400
    @pamelaruth7400 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome Lloyd!

  • @fairyspunfibers9098
    @fairyspunfibers9098 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hubbard strictly forbade fund-raising. Boss Baby Davey changed that as quickly as he could wiggle that in!

  • @thedarkhorse100
    @thedarkhorse100 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this won’t get answered here however here goes, Mike was aware of all these things before escaping, if Dave wasn’t running the show would he have seen the light and left ?, or would he still be there if he was treated better, I’m very anti Scientology and I’m happy he’s out, just curious

  • @queenslander954
    @queenslander954 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where’s Tom gonna go to get those truthful positive exaltations .. how in the hell is he gonna live now for a billion years.

  • @jerroldneal
    @jerroldneal ปีที่แล้ว

    If Scientology would just get rid of Miscavige, become more transparent, stop being cultish. Then, I'd be okay with it continuing to exist. Miscavige is the root problem. Oh, class action suit to pay back a lot of the money, including the money they gained from investments, to the patrons that were improperly pursuaded to lose their savings. Its a lot to hope for.

    • @lauriephillips7941
      @lauriephillips7941 ปีที่แล้ว

      They cant stop being “cultish” because they are a cult.

    • @victoriad882
      @victoriad882 ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt it. Chances are his replacement would just be a different kind of horrible.

    • @lauriephillips7941
      @lauriephillips7941 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@victoriad882 if miscabbage goes tom c will probably step in. Thats my guess.

  • @freedom35pedrick
    @freedom35pedrick ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But COB has been served….