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The Kingdom of Hyrule in botw was definitely aware of other civilizations and even considered them a threat. The Akkala Citadel is clearly set up to be a coastal defence fort. The cannons face away from Hyrule, the main gate does face Hyrule, the high cliff is towards the sea. Hyrule knew about something and were scared of it
Fort hateno is set up in a similar fashion as well. As seen in age of calamity the buildings of the fort were all within the walls as they should be. The fort also sits at a choke point making it easier to defend and the only reason that necluda isn't completely overrun. The only other way to invade hyrule by sea is from the south but lake hylia and the faron jungle would slow progress and the bridge could be used as a temporary defense and could even be destroyed in a last ditch effort. but seeing as the citadel is in akkala, the biggest threat probably comes from the northeast and could also give the reason nothing has been built other than the ruins, which could have been outposts to warn for an attack, same as robbie's lab which is a lighthouse and who, other than another civilization, would be coming to akkala by sea. The defense strategies set up by the kingdom also seem to disregard the northern and western parts, which do have a deadly trench between them, but does give way to no or friendly neighbors to those directions. I say no as there are no ways across nor any signs of a crossing point however sea is a possibility. Basically the entire country of hyrule would be dependent on sea trade and would probably need a decent navy which isn't seen at all indicating that a fairly large evacuation could have happened an those people are lost forever at sea or in another country surrounding hyrule. No links to the north or west indicate a possible land in those directions and there is a sea to the south of the gerudo desert. Written all at once probably come back to clean it up.
@@CalvinioliWell, you see in TOTK we're given a much large chunk of no longer existing races in Hyrule that being the Zonai and we know they were technologically advanced so why wouldn't they try to make contact with these other threats unless they already did. I have very little proof for my theory and I don’think it's to convincing but have you noticed that we barely see any Zonai in the cutscenes? We only see Rauru and Mineru. What if the Zonai had fought with kingdoms outside Hyrule? I don’t think this theory will get anywhere but you never know.
@@Higher-Ground and also, a character named Yona in the new game said she came from a different Zora's domain, which could potentially lead to there being more similar civilizations in Hyrule, but are OUTSIDE of the Hyrule we get to explore.
"Oh, crap, has it really been 10 millennia already? Welp... Sorry, King Rhoam, I've got to do... a thing... And won't be able to make it to our yearly chess match... give my best wishes to little Zelda for me, will ya?" ~ some foreign king, probably
They probably all have their shit to deal with, like Labrynna and Holodrum with Veran and Knox. Although they were somewhat guided or controlled by Ganon.
Labrynna and/or Holodrum are definitely across the sea. Link in Link’s Awakening was sailing back from the Oracle games to Hyrule when his ship was struck by lightning.
You sure? Link was transported to those locations via teleportation via the Triforce. The lands are not mentioned in any other games. Even various wikis states that these lands are parallel worlds, such as Termina & Koholint Island.
@@ChaoticHolythe linked ending has Link traveling back by sea in the after credits regardless of which order you play them. And as the other reply said, Impa traveled by normal means, likely well ahead of us (and obviously on Zelda's orders) since she was already there for a while when we arive.
I do think beyond hyrule is more civilisations. Maybe outer hyrule other areas. In the ocean I would think and hope, some people and islands that remains of the great sea. The people that stayed. Don't know about other areas.
@@HyruleGamer yes I agree. We need another game based in the/a great sea. Updated controlls and graphics. Maybe ganon floods it further on in time or maybe link banished from hyrule?
the Eastern Continent of Zelda II has a strong ressemblence to Akkala: -similar shape -Maze Island=Lomei Labyrinth Island -bay next to Level 5=Rist Peninsula -"Kasuto Lake"=Lake Akkala" and both only appears in a single game
@@HyruleGamer Also.... Even if Termina IS a parallel dimension....that doesn't make it inaccessible. Obviously you can't just walk there and have to shift through a fourth dimension, but.... Maybe the hole Zelda fell into in that BotW2 preview goes there? [insert evil raccoon laugh here]
About the Termina thing, it has to at least be known by the people of Hyrule, considering ya know, the Terminian Goron chief, Darmani, is depicted in the huge Goron monument above Goron City.
Also in the original version at least there where triforce simboligy on statues in Termina suggesting that at some point in time Termina was awer of hyrule
An alternate theory is that Link brought his stories of Termina back with him, and told some people of the hero Darmani. @@kretisme As for the depictions of the triforce... I actually suspect it was the Terminian triforce, not the Hylian triforce. Mind you, I'm not sure where the artifact actually ended up, but thanks to ALBW, it does seem the more likely option to me XD
Plus the Lost Woods at that time already has portals to other areas, both right outside of Zora's Domain and inside the Goron City. A portal to even further away isn't that unlikely, just further into the woods...and having portals everywhere would add a second reason why people disappear from there. Perhaps the Kokiri could normally sense and avoid them as well
@@Adventureruler A chunk of that can easily be down to game development limitations, they used existing assets for it. There used to be an interesting theory that Termina was created as a place for the people from the adult Link era after Link was sent back and that part of the timeline collapsed...but then you had the different timelines thing
On a related topic, I've toyed with the idea that the New Hyrule of Spirit Tracks and the expanded Hyrule of The Adventure of Link to have been timeline counterparts and, otherwise, the same location. Since Link fell in battle against Ganondorf in the Downfall Timeline, the Sages had to seal Ganondorf on their own, hence the villages in the expanded Hyrule being named after them, whereas, in the Adult Timeline, Link was victorious, had a statue of himself in Hyrule Castle, and, rather than villages named after the Sages, we saw the rise of two of their successors. Not a theory in and of itself, but something I've chewed on a few times over the years.
There is some evidence of the Mushroom Kingdom and other lands from other Nintendo games being all in the same world. In Link's Awakening there are several enemies and other NPCs that are basically one for one copies of Mario characters like spinies, goombas, cheep cheeps, piranha plants and shy guys, in one dungeon there are even enemies that look and act like Kirby. So if the Wind Fish is able to dream of all these beings from the Mushroom Kingdom and beyond it is possible he has actually encountered them before and that's where the reference for them to be in his dream came from.
Now I want to see a crossover game with Zelda and Mario! It’s so nice to see you being so involved with your community. Stuff like reading and replying to comments and making videos with those comments is so good! :D
ngl if I were part of the Zelda team I'd design characters who are clear references to Mario characters... like in one town you meet... Lew... who mentions his brother... Marr... and brother's wife..... Nectarine?... who you meet in the next town over
I always figured Labrynna and Holodrum were across the ocean since the ending of those games and Link's Awakening seem to suggest Link sailing back to Hyrule.
Dammit HG, you love The Zonai!! We can beat those theories to death and we still won't know everything. We want spirals and war paint, weird structures and the Spring of Courage. The Zonai are responsible for everything. Who built the Pyramid in A Link to the Past? Skull Woods? They built The Forest Temple in OOT. Bokos used to be really smart!! They're the Zonai. I'm done. Skip this comment. Take care HG. Picking Mother Hyrule for the snack or drink. I see what's going on here.
@@HyruleGamer I saw a reddit post that I think it would be good for you to make . What do you think about where the dragons come from and go ? Where is that ?
My head cannon is that North and Northwest lands are populated by larger monster settlements. The settlements would be where families raise their young, make their clothes, and forge weapons. Maybe they are peaceful in their own territory and have fuller cultures not influenced by Ganon.
2:36 From east to west... Hyrule, Holodrum (just over the mountains to the west of Gerudo Desert), and Labrynnia. Unlike that aLttP map, it would make more sense in Holodrum & Labrynnia being directly connected as the actual last dungeon in OoA/OoS is only accessible by linking both games together. So the dungeon would logically lay directly between both regions instead of Hyrule being in the way.
I firmly believe that hyrule is in the middle of an AOT situation world has completely closed off hyrule in order to contain Ganon and its evil to only hyrule. It's people doomed to an endless suffering of evils reincarnation
During the Great Calamity, there would be no doubt that people would leave Hyrule altogether to get as far away as possible from Calamity Ganon and the Guardians rampaging the land.
Definitely. However, it's unknown as to how many people either died or left Hyrule during the Second Calamity, although I think far more died than escaped.
Imagine there is a type of water Guardian in the seas yet to be explored. Even some other islands would be cool, with like hurricane beaten ruins, with more clues to the Zonai.
I am honored to be picked for your video! Like honestly, it gave me butterflies! But you know, I’m surprised no one mentioned this but, the Industrial New Hyrule from Spirit Tracks! I know it would really count, but the land had to have exist in some form before the flood and possibly before Hyrule itself! Going by memory of the Wind Waker ending, I think they headed either south or west. So it could be out there somewhere. I will also dig further into my previous comments with that: the kingdom north of Death Mountain in Zelda 2 could be the start of a new Hyrule by the survivors of the downfall. Possibly the same rough area as Hytopia, but a different time. Its not out of the realm of possibility that some have fled the Calamity and started a new settlement beyond the borders. Terry kingdom! Additionally, Zelda 2 features 2 great continents to the east, the eastern border of BOTW you can also see distance land too. Finally, I know they were on a doomsday time crunch, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the King and Race Leaders hadn’t considered kingdom expansion with the divine beasts. Vah Naboris could lead settlers across and beyond the desert. Vah Medoh soar over the northern canyon. Vah Ruta is able to submerge like a submarine, leading way beyond the sea! Maybe for future lore, if the Divine Beast still work. Haha.
I like to think Ordon is out there somewhere. in Twilight Princess it seems like it isn't technically part of the kingdom of Hyrule (correct me if I'm wrong), so maybe in those 10,000 odd years the borders shifted and Ordon moved further away.
Faron Woods is located in BOTW in the eastern south-central part of the map. But there aren't a lot of ruins south of that, so Ordon may have moved. I hope so, anyway.
You know... Ordon Village is such a weird thing in the Zelda series. Almost like it shouldn't exist. The remaining three areas get referenced many times over and Ordon for some reason does not. There has to be some kind of meaning to that.
I'm decibel on board with the mushroom kingdom idea. I've felt like that since Links Awakening. The whole thing was the wind fish's dream. If he had been to the mushroom kingdom, it would explain why goombas, bloopers, and the other crossovers were there. Same world. Different kingdom.
@@HyruleGamer yeah, the world of Link's Awakening was all a dream.... but what did the Windfish dream about? Hyrule Warriors used the idea it was places and people the Windfish had seen. Thus Maron was real, it's just that Link didn't meet the real one in Link's Awakening.
I definitely think there are countries out there still, because if Hyrule could survive so ungodly long, some other country might have lasted at least past that 10000yr gap. Also, one mystery I've wondered about is how far the Sheikah's influence reaches. In Hytopia there are wall masters made of tech with a blue glow and the Sheika eye on it but I wonder if it goes even farther
Yeah, it would make sense to add most of the not-Hyrule settings beyond the border of BotW's Hyrule for the sequel. Maybe a load screen could be added to each as a way of making clear these places aren't right next to each other but are neighboring lands.
I do wonder if BotW 2 will expand the borders of the game world. It would be awesome, though they are already doubling the world in a sense with the new sky world, as well as remixed surface. That's a lot of work by itself, so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
For Termina, I place the icy Snowhead/Goron Shrine region near southwest border of the Hebra region. This places Ikana area westof the Tabantha frontier and near the northwestern side of the Gerudo Highlands. Woodfall would on the outside of the Gerudo Highlands and portion of the Gerudo desert. The Great Bay area of course could connect to a larger sea/ocean that wraps around the Gerudo Desert (or potentially another area like Holodrum/Labrynna ) and connect with the Faron Sea
One quick detail people should really pay attention to in Tears of the Kingdom AND Breath of the Wild is how the massive canyon at the border of Hyrule. And I’m talking specifically about where the end of the canyon where that giant rock formation is. Because my theory is that the canyon actually used to be a river that connected to the ocean. But because of the rock formation. The flow of the river was dammed blocking the water from filling the entire canyon with water. And I have always wondered where we could end up if we were able to go past the part of the canyon where Mount Agaat is.
Do you think Hyrule was once the home of a long, forgotten civilization...The Zonai Tribe? I've done some research and I noticed some Zonai architectures around in Hyrule. There mostly found in the Faron Region, but you can find some of their relics outside of the Faron Region. I even noticed that in the first trailer of The Legend of Zelda Botw 2, there was a shot of a carving in a wall that could be depicting Ganondorf himself, riding with his loyal, monstrous horse, wielding his iconic, brutal trident into battle, but I even realised that there other horsemen riding with him. It could be the Gerudo because Ganondorf is the only other Gerudo that has a horse, meaning the females could have joined with him, but when I looked closely on the textures, it had some Zonai patterns, even on Ganondorf also. It would make sense that the Zonai Tribe found a 'God', but was betrayed and were slaughtered by Ganondorf himself. It would explain the reason why they vanished suddenly thousands of years ago. Perhaps Ganondorf, was a False God. There is an armour set in Botw called "The Barbarian Set". It raises the wearer's strength to have more power, and when I looked closely, it shocked me. In Botw 2, we see Ganondorf as more of a skeletal mummy with long, flaming red hair. And the Barbarian Helmet is very close connected to Ganondorf's appearance, a humanoid skull, fangs and curved horns, similar to Ganon's Horns, but it even includes long, crimson red hear, very similar to Ganondorf's long red hair. The rest of the set is almost made out of skeletal materials, a lot similar to Ganondorf's appearance as a skeleton. It's possible that the Zonai crafted this behemoth armour, to look like Ganondorf himself, and to be considered as their God, but were betrayed by the Gerudo King himself, leaving behind their relics forgotten in Hyrule. I hope this helps you Hyrule Gamer, and keep up your channel! :)
In phantom hourglass they sail from the great sea, old Hyrule, to New Hyrule. So either the land of new Hyrule is out there, or the land of Old Hyrule is out there. Weird people forget about those games.
I really support the idea of Holodrum and Labrynna bordering Hyrule. A link to the past, both oracle games and links awakening all feature the same Link. I know koholint is a dream by the wind fish. I think its likely they border and people have said breath of the wild converges the timeliness. So its very likely IMO
I was exploring west Eldin the other day when I noticed something. There is a whole forest of dead trees there. It’s probably the most heavily forested part of Eldin even if the trees are dead. And there are ruins there too. Hylian ruins with the characteristic small stone bricks, arches and small windows, a settlement prosperous enough to be built in stone. But the ground there is the grey of cooled lava. What was once a pleasant, shady wood with a decent sized stone settlement (possibly surrounded by who knows how many wooden houses) was destroyed by a death mountain lava flow. Macabre really.
I remember in the Zelda 2 comics but out by Valiant Comics forever ago, west outside of Hyrule was a kingdom named Calatia, where Link was originally from. This would have been before almost all the lore was built up, so I doubt it's canon. I always liked it, though.
What if the world around and including Hyrule is similar to Tolkien's world? The Goddesses and Creators being part of the world just secluded in a protected segment, like the cloud barrier but also perhaps on the edges of the land itself. Like in Tolkien's world, the world is flat and the Valar are off in the untouchable West to create order and combat evil in the world. So what if the borders of Hyrule really is all there is to the world? Instead of viewing Hyrule as one kingdom of many races, Hyrule is simply the Kingdom of Men as the dominant force of the continent. Or even what if Hyrule is but one land-locked sandbox experiment for the Goddesses? There might be several iterations of "Hyrule" beyond the borders. Either a LoTR or Matrix twist lol
If I'm not mistaken the world of Middle Earth is a globe now, it became rounded after a continent sunk. Also there is quite a bit that hints/shows Hyrule isn't all that's out there
Also, we haven't really gotten a look into Hylian Astronomy. I'd like to know what planets are outside of Hyrule or even what they named the planet that Hyrule is on.
As for the outer lands of Zelda 2, those are part of Hyrule as well. The area you explore in Zelda 1 is referred to as Lesser Hyrule in Zelda 2 material, and makes up the area at the base of Death Mountain. The rest of the map is Greater Hyrule. Termina is consistently referred to as a parallel world in most official media, except for the Legend of Zelda Encyclopedia which states it's an artificial land created by Majora's Mask from the memories of Link, Skull Kid, and itself. But the same group that wrote the encyclopedia put that forward as a fan theory decades ago, and there are lots of mistakes in both that book and the Mario Encyclopedia they wrote, so I don't put much weight in it. I am almost certain that Hytopia, Labrynna, and Holodrum are out there, or at least their ruins. Koholint probably isn't, though, since the Wind Fish's skeleton is in Gerudo Desert. And while I know it's not likely due to being written off as terrible unofficial media at this point, I'd like to think Gamelon, Koridai, and Tolemac could possibly be there.
I've sometimes wondered if the Hyrule from Spirit Tracks might be out there somewhere. IF I recall correctly, Niko tells the tale of how Zelda(Tetra) and Link sailed until they found a 'new land' to settle in and establish a new kingdom of Hyrule, whilst the old one remains under the sea (cue music here). Anjean the Lokomo had met Tetra when she first arrived, I think, so that presupposes some kind of civilization that was there before....They have their own lore with the spirits of good and the demon king they sealed under the tower of spirits.....
Imagine if in botw 2 you could go to the shore and see stuff washing up from new hyrule, or maybe even like a super old wreckage of Lineback’s ship, if I saw something like that I think I would probably start crying.
It would be SO AWESOME if they just kept adding content to the breath of the wild map. We love that world SO MUCH that the thought of it ever expanding from game to game would be so wonderful.
I'm surprised, during the mushroom kingdom follow up, that you didn't make any reference to Links Awakening. Definitely some mushroom kingdom folk in that. Always love the content HG, would be great to see another collab, Zeltik, NBC, etc. Cheers!
If you go to the most southwestern cliff from Mount Granajh and just above the edge of the Gerudo Desert, you can use the Sheikah Slate to scope beyond the Gerudo Desert. There, you can spot mountains and a large lake in the direction beyond the leviathan skeleton in the corner of the map.
I can definitely see the Mushroom Kingdom as being in the same universe as Hyrule, especially due to the fact that ever since the first legend of Zelda game in 1986, there have been elements from each game in each other's game. For instance, the same blocks that Mario has to climb in order to jump onto the flagpole in Super Mario Bros are present in every dungeon in LOZ1, 3, and the gameboy games. We've seen some Mario enemies like chain chomps in Zelda dungeons. The Warp Whistle in Mario 3 is ripped right out of LoZ1. Link has even joined in on the Mario Kart fun. Hell, he brought his Master Cycle! And do I even need to bring up Super Smash Brothers?
@@OtakuUnitedStudio that would be such a good theory, but then where is the spirit tower? (But like actually that’s so good cus the biomes in new hyrule match almost perfectly, only outlier being the desert location)
Well, I am CERTAIN there will be voyagers out on the ocean, and maybe we'll see some wind water references from there, and I noticed some Lurelin boats resemble whales- could we see another leviathan out there?
i think Termina is a Dark World version of a place called Eterna, (just like Hyrule and Lorule) and that there was a bridge north of the Forgotten Woods that connected the two lands. Which means, Link was headed towards Eterna, when he ended up in Termina instead.
Tbh I always liked the idea of The Mushroom Kingdom being within the same universe, possibly just on different continents. The cameos between games, tyrannical rulers with great magical prowess, undead creatures, portals to other realms... I know it's not really meant to be connected but really a Mario game could be like a Zelda game, just look at the Mario RPGs and their darker tones and wider cast of characters.
Another great video as always :D I really like all of those ideas I remember the first time I played Majora's Mask (when I was 10) I never really thought much about where/what termina was but it's really interesting to think about I always loved ikana especially that's definitely my favorite part (and clock town) Have a nice day/night :)
There is a great possibility of the Mushroom Kingdom being on the same planet as Hyrule. Even so much as to be neighbouring kingdoms. Labrynna, Holodrum, and Koholint would most likely be along the borders with the mix of Mario and Zelda enemies. Even if you argue that Koholint was a dream, there's still the fact that the Wind Fish dreamt up the goombas, piranha plants, spinies, boos, etc. Wait... I was going to argue about the wind fish having seen those creatures as it swam the oceans prior to being put to sleep, but now I'm thinking, what if all of Mario's games take place within a dream world? A dream world Link ended upon waking up the wind fish...
The Mushroom Kingdom being in the Zelda universe isn't too farfetched either. Link's awakening features enemies from Mario like the Bob-omb and Goomba, as well as some novelty jokes that nod toward the little fat plumber, like Tarin being a mushroom hunter and transforming to a Tanuki or Raccoon. While all if the events of Link's Awakening did happen within the dream of the Wind Fish, that doesn't mean it's out the window, because the Wind Fish is still a resident of Hyrule for the most part. What could've made him dream about creatures and entities from an entirely different universe? Answer, they're somewhere in the same universe and the Wind Fish has seen them. I read somewhere about another speculation that Link's Awakening is not just a dream by the Wind Fish, but a dream that amalgamates everything the Wind Fish has witnessed in its lifetime into one island. Wouldn't be far off either, aside from the heavily influence Mario references, Animal Village reminds me of Animal Crossing as well.(Yes I know Animal Crossing came after the first Link's Awakening, but Animal Crossing probably had its inspiration *from* Link's Awakening.) There's also the Mario paintings in the Hyrule Castle in Ocarina of Time which also point to the Mushroom Kingdom being a known location to the Hylians. Since that isn't a dream sequence like the events of Link's Awakening, we know for a fact that it's something that has to be canon to the universe. A lot of people just like to say it's Nintendo references but, I'm more inclined to just say it's part of the world somewhere and the Royal Family know about it.
I like to think of Hyrule, Labrynna and Holodrum to be a continent all together, and since ordon vanished throughout the years, i like to think since it was so far out of hyrule after the great flood it became its own Island/country, i like to think of it that way.
I'm sure there are other kingdoms out past Hyrule. I think, if you can find the tree trunk portal, you can visit Termina. Lorule is probably still through a trippy crack.
Your guess is as good as mine, but these are definitely disproven: I'm pretty sure Termina was confirmed to be an alternate world in the "Collector's Edition" for the Gamecube, in the game description of Majora's Mask, which some people seem to not realize. (I'll have to check, I'll quote it when I read it) Koholint Island is most likely just a figment in a dream. Lorule, is definitely an alternate Hyrule, along with the Dark World Edit with the Majora's Mask description: "While it was a direct sequel to Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask was clearly a Zelda of a different color, as Link wandered into a three-day journey in a *mysterious parallel world."* This proves Termina is a parallel world, as stated by Nintendo themselves.
I mean surely, another thing to consider though is the timeline split from old hyrule, the flooding, and the discovery of the continent that becomes new hyrule. It’s also not consistently defined what hyrule geographically is. It seems to be a continent in some stuff but just a country with land borders in others, and although officially called the kingdom of hyrule, is more like a union of several kingdoms seeing as the zoras, gerudo, and Gorons all have their own kings or are chiefdoms, maybe considered subjects of the king of hyrule but not actually hylians, but that sounds a bit imperialismy. Points to the existence of other tribes, chiefdoms or kingdoms out there that would constitute a country.
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To me, the GEOGRAPHY of Termina exists in the far west of Hyrule, but no one settled there. In another timeline, similar to Lorule, Hylians renouced the Triforce, and settled to a place far beyound temptation or knowledge of it existence, creating Termina. So that'd make 3 different worlds, Hyrule, where the Triforce is worshipped, Lorule, where the Triforce was destroyed from desperation, and Termina, where the Triforce and anything godly was abandonned and civilisation started anew beyond the mountains of Hebra and Snowpeak, and the cragged steppe of Ikana. Bit hey, that's just a theory, a yatta yatta don't @ me people, this is my headcanon because I want to see a complete map of Hyrule with as much references as I can fit that would still work lorewise
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I have always had the idea that since the Demon Tribe only really seems to care about Hyrule Kingdom that given the level of technology seen throughout the series and the likely 50,000 plus years separating BotW from any other game that the rest of the world is equally if not more advanced than out own world. The rest of the world simply agreeing to have no contact with Hyrule and is neighbouring countries until they sort out their issues. Within the hundred year gap of BotW we already see the Sheikah tribe fracture into two clans, who is to say that other the hundred of thousands of years that large groups of Sheikah haven't gone on to start other nations where they were free of the Triforce and Ganon.
The mushroom kingdom kinda has to be out there. The Easter egg from OoT kinda makes that a thing. Despite its there just to be an Easter egg for us, they are now canon in the Zelda universe
This isn't really relevant to this video, but it something I've always been confused about. When Ganon's Malice corrupted the Guardians and made them destroy everything, why didn't the same happen to the Divine Beasts after the Champions were defeated? Why did they just stop doing anything (until Link's awakening)? Surely it would be WAY easier to take out Link and Zelda with one, or ALL the divine beasts, as well as the Guardians?
@@Adventureruleryeah maybe, but I recon he probably could have KILLED link and zelda BEFORE she managed to unlock her powers. As powerful as Link is I don't think he could defend her against a Divine Beast.
Hyrule might be some kind of cursed or forbidden place by other lands' standards. 'Don't venture to the land beyond the (medium), after the terrible journey only monsters and curses await.'
This idea may be out there in terms of craziness, but I’m gonna say that there’s a giant axolotl with an entire civilization living either on it or in it. Why an axolotl specifically? Easy: not only do they look like the cutest things in the universe, but also look like they know the secrets of the universe but have the Wii Shop music playing on loop in their heads.
My theory is that Termina is in fact real and exists on the opposite side of the continent from Hyrule. Obviously Hyrule is on a large land mass so there are different coasts and such, Termina is on the far west coast since the Bay is on the West. What I believe could have happened was that at one point in Hyrule's history, the kingdom decided that it was time to expand its reach and colonize the other coast so that way they have access to even more resources. This can easily explain why we see in the original version of majora's mask we see symbols of the triforce on some surfaces and why the guards have similar armor. And over the long years, without frequent contact with Hyrule as the people used to have, they also changed their religion over time. It isn't uncommon for cities that have sprung up in different parts of the land to have their religion slightly change over time, Hell that's what happened to the Abrahamic Religions. I say this because the people in Termina worship the goddess of time, just like Hyrule, but they do not worship the other 3 goddesses. One last thing to note about Link teleporting to Termina, let us remember that the Lost Woods also have gateways to Zora's Domain and Goron City even though they are clearly nowhere near the Woods. So who's to say that didn't also happen when Link fell into Termina.
I love this! I just thought I'd love to see a ghost town and a haunted cemetery in botw2! Maybe monster villages/territories too. Peaceful little monster towns!
If Hylia created Hyrule, then other gods have made their own lands on this earth that aged for 35 video game years, but for millions of years in the lore of the franchise.
Theres a great video on HGs discord under "everything zelda" showing the surrounding area in great detail. Theres a huge lake out there.. Havent played Oracles or Minish but see if the maps correspond with the geography. Id be interested to see if anything lines up..
also isn't it said in OOT by Zelda that Ganon wants to conquer the world not just hyrule? That itself suggests hyrule isnt the only country of this world.
I definitely see a new hightopia out there along with Labryanna and Holodrum being out there. And outskirts island is 100% out there because we can find the Zelda 1 first dungeon island in the lost woods so it makes sense, it also adds to the whole unified timeline thing and who knows maybe outset island is out there as well.
As for the Mushroom kingdom I think Hyrule is just the ancient past then The Mushroom kingdom time is the far present and splatoon the far future and Kirby the far far future. Then fire emble is the ancient ancient past.
Hytopia and the drablands would probably be north of the hebra region, since we know that north of eldin/akala, is northern hyrule, where AoL takes place. I actually once made a giant map of hyrule based on botw, and combined abunch of differnent lands to it. I had new hyrule, labrynna, and holodrum on their own single continent across the sea. AoL was to the north. unfortunatly, i forgot to include hytopia :(
Termina is short for terminal, like airport terminal. A world that links all other worlds it seems? Think of the woods in A Nightmare Before Christmas, with all the doors leading to other worlds.
One of the things I'm certain of is other "Ganon"s... like, not literal boar monsters, but demon kings/queens/etc. that were created by Demise's curse... okay, so I'm not fully 100% certain, but still XD TL;DR for what's below: theory time. Okay, so, I have this theory about Minish Cap... in the very beginning, when Vaati takes the Picori Sword and opens the chest, a bunch of spirits fly out... and suddenly, there are monsters in Hyrule! (Oh, and, by the way, there were exactly 8 spirits flying out, which is a common number of bosses and dungeons in the series, but there are only 5 dungeons in this specific game.) My theory is that Demise's curse took *immediate* effect, rather than waiting centuries until OoT, and thus began the Era of Chaos. During that time, the Minish helped the Hylians seal the 8 spirits into the chest and Picori Sword. Thus began the Era of Prosperity. And how does the Era of Prosperity end, and the Force Era begin? With the Minish Cap. Vaati opens the chest, releases the 8 Curses of Demise, loosing uncountable evils upon Hyrule that were never truly cleansed. How does the Force Era end? With the Hyrule Unification War... and the beginning of OoT. The beginning of Ganondorf. Vaati released 8 Curses upon Hyrule, of which Ganon was only one. We can guess at other Curses' names, such as Malladus or Bellum. Hell, even Majora might be a Curse, if Termina isn't an AU... but that still leaves at least 4 Curses left unnamed. 4 beings as strong as Ganon, with their own histories and personalities, just as old as Ganon.
@@ortherner Right, Right, but the Ocean King himself comes from the physical world, so Bellum may have as well... mind you, I did mention it was only a guess. (Also, thanks for reminding me, it had been a while since I had played PH, and I wasn't even sure I had spelled "Bellum" right XD)
I like the idea of different games connecting, what if the chozo visited whatever planet hyrule is on and they settled there and SOME the technology is a product of the chozo teaching people how to develop machines ect. 100% unlikely but it's always fun to think and theorize
I think new hyrule could be out somewhere because I find hard to believe that the triforce just made up all that lore. Based on the wish by the king in Wind Waker. Like the lokomo tribe, the spirit tracks, the demon king malladus. For all we know botw hyrule could be new hyrule but my only problem with that is how did ganon and the master sword get from the bottom of the ocean to new hyrule. If this was true.
Hey HyruleGamer. How is your day going? I found an idea for a short/video. The shrines on top of the dueling peaks. The Shee Vaneer shrine and the Shee Venath shrine. They are both on the dueling peaks. One is on top of one peak and the other one is on top of the other peak. Are the monks of those shrines Brothers? I just giving you a suggestion. BTW thanks for all of your amazing content!
ARE there any other countries/kingdoms in the Zelda world? And if so, why aren't they *constantly warring with Hyrule* to gain access to that _sweet, sweet, magical wish-granting Triforce treat?_ *-Temina?* Alt reality/dream, depending on who you ask. *-Lorule?* Alt reality. *-Twilight Realm?* Alt reality. *-Koholint Island?* Fishy. *-Sacred Realm?* Alt reality. *-Silent Realm?* Alt reality. *-Holodrum and Labrynna?* Again, alt realities *per various wikis.* These may be real lands, but it is entirely debatable as Link is only able to visit these lands via Triforce Teleportation. *-Ordona Province?* Same reality, but does not have its own power structure, is beholden to Hyrule (gifting the Hyrule royal family the Ordon Sword), and is most likely a part of Hyrule as it's called a "province". *-Hytopia?* Same reality, but gets assimilated into Hyrule (per the Encyclopedia) despite almost everyone possessing phenomenal magic - just like the varied "kingdoms" around Hyrule shortly before the start of Ocarina of Time. *-Land of the Spirits of Good?* If there was a country or people still here, Tetra & Link slaughtered/subjugated them all in just a few years, as Castles & Kingdoms takes time to build and Spirit Tracks happens only 100 years after Wind Waker. _-Mushroom Kingdom?_ Per Mario Odyssey, there does not seem to be a land mass matching Hyrule on that particular planet. Then there are items like the Cane of Somaria which are said to come from other lands, but these are mostly one-off items that _imply other lands once existed_ but there's no guarantee that they _still do._ Heck, "Somaria" may have been an ancient name for the Eastern Hills before it became part of Hyrule for all anyone knows. Hyrule is a kingdom that has intentionally stunted/limited its technological development throughout its entire history. Would other peoples in other kingdoms/countries limit themselves the same way for similar reasons...or are they just not organized...or _are they not even out there?_ As an example, in the 100 years after the Calamity in BotW...where are the foreign explorers? The diplomats investigating the sudden silence? The foreign soldiers sent to fill the sudden power vacuum or evidence that they came and left after seeing big-&-ugly over the castle? The foreign danger seekers? The scavengers and thieves out to take whatever they can find? _Any_ evidence of a foreign power looking to claim the Triforce for their own _even with_ big-&-ugly floating around? Is it possible...that there are no other countries in the world containing Hyrule? Did nearly NO other land develop its own country/kingdom/empire? The Triforce is a *wish-granting MacGuffin capable of re-writing reality* - if it were real every nation on Earth would destroy the world a thousand times over in their attempt to gain it for themselves, with the thought that they can just wish the world NOT a radioactive wasteland once they have it. Or, as with Hytopia, do other lands have their own power/super-relics/magical-nukes and don't want/need to bother with an all-powerful Triforce? It's not as though Hyrule exists within its own microcosm, as we can see its expansion in Adventure of Link & Spirit Tracks. On the other hand, did other countries once exist but were wished away to protect Hyrule? Is this something that someone in Hyrule's history actually did? Zelda when she was first starting Hyrule post Skyward Sword? Hylia (or a follower of her on her orders as she couldn't use the Triforce herself) in the times before Skyward Sword? Ganondorf after he gained part of the Triforce in Ocarina of Time? The "Triforce using monarchs" as described in the "downfall timeline" after Tri Force Heroes but before the original game? The last seems the most likely to me if we're going down this rabbit hole, as the Triforce had been hidden away before events in A Link Between Worlds but in Hyrule itself well before events in the first game. Could such a wish, to "topple all other countries" or "peace from foreign invasion", actually topple all countries across the three timelines? How did those monarchs who are listed as using the Triforce in the timeline/Adventure of Link's manual actually use it? We know there are other people out there thanks to Lurelin Village, _but not other organized countries._ On that note, the cannons at Akkala Citadel could exist to battle human invaders and/or monster invaders. Yet it's at such an odd location to intercept an eastern invasion as it cedes a _lot_ of land for it to act as a point of defense, and does nothing as an early warning location of invasion for the residents/monarchy of Central Hyrule. You'd think it would be situated at/near the coast if it were to fight/deter eastern invasion or even sea pirates. It's a military installation at a location that makes little militaristic sense, much like Snowpeak Ruins. These locations do nothing to prove, nor disprove, other countries existing beyond Hyrule's supposed borders. And there does not seem to be similar outposts otherwise in Hyrule in Breath of the Wild for the other cardinal directions, either. _This is all (mostly - some editing occurred) from a comment I left in another video of a similar subject by Dr Wily - __th-cam.com/video/QX7BgaHtres_/w-d-xo.html
I think Termina is definitely some kind of parallel world, especially after Link Between Worlds. I think Lorule and Termina are in the same place. I don't really care how they go about the additional lands thing, but I really want Nintendo to include races from previous games that haven't been used much. When the first trailer was revealed I thought it would be cool if the Subrosans made a return. Or the Mogma. I ultimately just would like to see more subterranean areas in the game as well as the skylands.
Of course Termina doesn’t lie in the same earth where Hyrule exists so it should be in a parallel world: The most logical hint is the moon. None of the Zelda Games ever had such a creepy Moon with Face except for Majoras Mask 🌝
I like to believe that Termina is real and in the same world as Hyrule but I believe it lies very far to the east across the ocean and Link was teleported there by the lost woods.
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@Seán Phádraig 🍁 yes lol
I think the Z words we’re forced under ground by pirates and that’s what is beyond hyrule and of course any of the lands from the other games.
@Seán Phádraig 🍁 I can’t think of anything more correct
Somehow, I know that the twilight realm is somewhere, somehow.
there is a theory that botw is the downfall time line seen as someone found out the map from zelda 2 is mainly the same as botw
The Kingdom of Hyrule in botw was definitely aware of other civilizations and even considered them a threat. The Akkala Citadel is clearly set up to be a coastal defence fort. The cannons face away from Hyrule, the main gate does face Hyrule, the high cliff is towards the sea. Hyrule knew about something and were scared of it
Yeah!
Fort hateno is set up in a similar fashion as well. As seen in age of calamity the buildings of the fort were all within the walls as they should be. The fort also sits at a choke point making it easier to defend and the only reason that necluda isn't completely overrun. The only other way to invade hyrule by sea is from the south but lake hylia and the faron jungle would slow progress and the bridge could be used as a temporary defense and could even be destroyed in a last ditch effort. but seeing as the citadel is in akkala, the biggest threat probably comes from the northeast and could also give the reason nothing has been built other than the ruins, which could have been outposts to warn for an attack, same as robbie's lab which is a lighthouse and who, other than another civilization, would be coming to akkala by sea.
The defense strategies set up by the kingdom also seem to disregard the northern and western parts, which do have a deadly trench between them, but does give way to no or friendly neighbors to those directions. I say no as there are no ways across nor any signs of a crossing point however sea is a possibility.
Basically the entire country of hyrule would be dependent on sea trade and would probably need a decent navy which isn't seen at all indicating that a fairly large evacuation could have happened an those people are lost forever at sea or in another country surrounding hyrule. No links to the north or west indicate a possible land in those directions and there is a sea to the south of the gerudo desert.
Written all at once probably come back to clean it up.
Interesting!
@@CalvinioliWell, you see in TOTK we're given a much large chunk of no longer existing races in Hyrule that being the Zonai and we know they were technologically advanced so why wouldn't they try to make contact with these other threats unless they already did. I have very little proof for my theory and I don’think it's to convincing but have you noticed that we barely see any Zonai in the cutscenes? We only see Rauru and Mineru. What if the Zonai had fought with kingdoms outside Hyrule? I don’t think this theory will get anywhere but you never know.
@@Higher-Ground and also, a character named Yona in the new game said she came from a different Zora's domain, which could potentially lead to there being more similar civilizations in Hyrule, but are OUTSIDE of the Hyrule we get to explore.
other countries are looking with binoculars at Hyrule getting destroyed by a pig every few years like "do you see this shit? Always with the ganon"
lol yeah kinda makes sense that if there are other nations besides hyrule they wouldnt want to have anything to do with that shit.
"Oh, crap, has it really been 10 millennia already? Welp... Sorry, King Rhoam, I've got to do... a thing... And won't be able to make it to our yearly chess match... give my best wishes to little Zelda for me, will ya?"
~ some foreign king, probably
@@porcupinethecat5073 lmao
They probably all have their shit to deal with, like Labrynna and Holodrum with Veran and Knox. Although they were somewhat guided or controlled by Ganon.
Labrynna and/or Holodrum are definitely across the sea. Link in Link’s Awakening was sailing back from the Oracle games to Hyrule when his ship was struck by lightning.
The one from link's awakening probably not, but if there's a third island, it would probably be the boot-shaped continent in zelda 2
You sure? Link was transported to those locations via teleportation via the Triforce. The lands are not mentioned in any other games. Even various wikis states that these lands are parallel worlds, such as Termina & Koholint Island.
Then is it safe to say at least one of those countries is east of Eventide Island?
@@ChaoticHoly Impa traveled to Labrynna and Holodrum through normal means though.
@@ChaoticHolythe linked ending has Link traveling back by sea in the after credits regardless of which order you play them.
And as the other reply said, Impa traveled by normal means, likely well ahead of us (and obviously on Zelda's orders) since she was already there for a while when we arive.
I do think beyond hyrule is more civilisations. Maybe outer hyrule other areas. In the ocean I would think and hope, some people and islands that remains of the great sea. The people that stayed. Don't know about other areas.
The Sea definitely has TONS out there!
@@HyruleGamer yes I agree. We need another game based in the/a great sea. Updated controlls and graphics. Maybe ganon floods it further on in time or maybe link banished from hyrule?
@@xylex6295I'm guessing Link finally gets banished for crucifying and torturing Koroks.
What lies beyond Hyrule? It's so easy. Simply: [You can't read farther]
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This made my day lol
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Thank you, thank you all. Ive reached my peak, I shall now retire with my crap sense of humor
the Eastern Continent of Zelda II has a strong ressemblence to Akkala:
-similar shape
-Maze Island=Lomei Labyrinth Island
-bay next to Level 5=Rist Peninsula
-"Kasuto Lake"=Lake Akkala"
and both only appears in a single game
Interesting points :)
I do get a similar vibe interestingly enough.
@@HyruleGamer Also.... Even if Termina IS a parallel dimension....that doesn't make it inaccessible. Obviously you can't just walk there and
have to shift through a fourth dimension, but....
Maybe the hole Zelda fell into in that BotW2 preview goes there? [insert evil raccoon laugh here]
That was almost certainly the intent.
About the Termina thing, it has to at least be known by the people of Hyrule, considering ya know, the Terminian Goron chief, Darmani, is depicted in the huge Goron monument above Goron City.
Also in the original version at least there where triforce simboligy on statues in Termina suggesting that at some point in time Termina was awer of hyrule
An alternate theory is that Link brought his stories of Termina back with him, and told some people of the hero Darmani.
@@kretisme As for the depictions of the triforce... I actually suspect it was the Terminian triforce, not the Hylian triforce. Mind you, I'm not sure where the artifact actually ended up, but thanks to ALBW, it does seem the more likely option to me XD
Plus the Lost Woods at that time already has portals to other areas, both right outside of Zora's Domain and inside the Goron City.
A portal to even further away isn't that unlikely, just further into the woods...and having portals everywhere would add a second reason why people disappear from there. Perhaps the Kokiri could normally sense and avoid them as well
But there were alot of characters and familiar faces throughout Majoras Mask that were from Ocarina of Time
@@Adventureruler A chunk of that can easily be down to game development limitations, they used existing assets for it.
There used to be an interesting theory that Termina was created as a place for the people from the adult Link era after Link was sent back and that part of the timeline collapsed...but then you had the different timelines thing
On a related topic, I've toyed with the idea that the New Hyrule of Spirit Tracks and the expanded Hyrule of The Adventure of Link to have been timeline counterparts and, otherwise, the same location. Since Link fell in battle against Ganondorf in the Downfall Timeline, the Sages had to seal Ganondorf on their own, hence the villages in the expanded Hyrule being named after them, whereas, in the Adult Timeline, Link was victorious, had a statue of himself in Hyrule Castle, and, rather than villages named after the Sages, we saw the rise of two of their successors. Not a theory in and of itself, but something I've chewed on a few times over the years.
They are definitely out there somewhere!
The Tingle Nation, preparing to invade Hyrule for its fairies.
Oh my...
Oh no
lol
Tingle, Tingle! Kooloo-Limpah!
tingly dingly your fairies are minely
There is some evidence of the Mushroom Kingdom and other lands from other Nintendo games being all in the same world. In Link's Awakening there are several enemies and other NPCs that are basically one for one copies of Mario characters like spinies, goombas, cheep cheeps, piranha plants and shy guys, in one dungeon there are even enemies that look and act like Kirby. So if the Wind Fish is able to dream of all these beings from the Mushroom Kingdom and beyond it is possible he has actually encountered them before and that's where the reference for them to be in his dream came from.
That also means Majora has the capability of being the next Mario game villain probably too dark though.
Now I want to see a crossover game with Zelda and Mario!
It’s so nice to see you being so involved with your community. Stuff like reading and replying to comments and making videos with those comments is so good!
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A crossover would be cool ngl :)
ngl if I were part of the Zelda team I'd design characters who are clear references to Mario characters... like in one town you meet... Lew... who mentions his brother... Marr... and brother's wife..... Nectarine?... who you meet in the next town over
@@NerdySalemSays are you familiar with the entirety of Link's Awakening
@@NerdySalemSays aren't Talon and Ingo references to Mario and Luigi?
@@v1de0gamr23 I think their designs are based off them. But I also want their personalities to be. Also no Peach
I always figured Labrynna and Holodrum were across the ocean since the ending of those games and Link's Awakening seem to suggest Link sailing back to Hyrule.
Fair enough
Dammit HG, you love The Zonai!! We can beat those theories to death and we still won't know everything. We want spirals and war paint, weird structures and the Spring of Courage. The Zonai are responsible for everything. Who built the Pyramid in A Link to the Past? Skull Woods? They built The Forest Temple in OOT. Bokos used to be really smart!! They're the Zonai. I'm done. Skip this comment. Take care HG. Picking Mother Hyrule for the snack or drink. I see what's going on here.
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@@HyruleGamer I saw a reddit post that I think it would be good for you to make . What do you think about where the dragons come from and go ? Where is that ?
My head cannon is that North and Northwest lands are populated by larger monster settlements. The settlements would be where families raise their young, make their clothes, and forge weapons. Maybe they are peaceful in their own territory and have fuller cultures not influenced by Ganon.
huh
That's a logical theory cause if Hyrule was tormented by monsters for centuries they'd be scared of even larger amounts of monsters invading.
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From east to west...
Hyrule, Holodrum (just over the mountains to the west of Gerudo Desert), and Labrynnia.
Unlike that aLttP map, it would make more sense in Holodrum & Labrynnia being directly connected as the actual last dungeon in OoA/OoS is only accessible by linking both games together.
So the dungeon would logically lay directly between both regions instead of Hyrule being in the way.
Interesting!
@@HyruleGamer Thank you.
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I firmly believe that hyrule is in the middle of an AOT situation world has completely closed off hyrule in order to contain Ganon and its evil to only hyrule. It's people doomed to an endless suffering of evils reincarnation
During the Great Calamity, there would be no doubt that people would leave Hyrule altogether to get as far away as possible from Calamity Ganon and the Guardians rampaging the land.
Definitely. However, it's unknown as to how many people either died or left Hyrule during the Second Calamity, although I think far more died than escaped.
Yup
Imagine there is a type of water Guardian in the seas yet to be explored. Even some other islands would be cool, with like hurricane beaten ruins, with more clues to the Zonai.
Maybe yeah
If Termina is an alternative world, then the portal to it could still exist, maybe even in Hyrule's lands
👆🏻This. Also the lack of a “normal” moon in Termina suggests to me that it is not on the same planet/universe/plane of existence/etc as Hyrule. 🌔
It could be an inner earth land.
@@sunte91The moon thing was caused by Majora.
I am honored to be picked for your video! Like honestly, it gave me butterflies!
But you know, I’m surprised no one mentioned this but, the Industrial New Hyrule from Spirit Tracks! I know it would really count, but the land had to have exist in some form before the flood and possibly before Hyrule itself! Going by memory of the Wind Waker ending, I think they headed either south or west. So it could be out there somewhere.
I will also dig further into my previous comments with that: the kingdom north of Death Mountain in Zelda 2 could be the start of a new Hyrule by the survivors of the downfall. Possibly the same rough area as Hytopia, but a different time. Its not out of the realm of possibility that some have fled the Calamity and started a new settlement beyond the borders. Terry kingdom!
Additionally, Zelda 2 features 2 great continents to the east, the eastern border of BOTW you can also see distance land too.
Finally, I know they were on a doomsday time crunch, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the King and Race Leaders hadn’t considered kingdom expansion with the divine beasts.
Vah Naboris could lead settlers across and beyond the desert.
Vah Medoh soar over the northern canyon.
Vah Ruta is able to submerge like a submarine, leading way beyond the sea!
Maybe for future lore, if the Divine Beast still work. Haha.
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I like to think Ordon is out there somewhere. in Twilight Princess it seems like it isn't technically part of the kingdom of Hyrule (correct me if I'm wrong), so maybe in those 10,000 odd years the borders shifted and Ordon moved further away.
I hope it is!
Faron Woods is located in BOTW in the eastern south-central part of the map. But there aren't a lot of ruins south of that, so Ordon may have moved. I hope so, anyway.
You know... Ordon Village is such a weird thing in the Zelda series. Almost like it shouldn't exist. The remaining three areas get referenced many times over and Ordon for some reason does not. There has to be some kind of meaning to that.
I'm decibel on board with the mushroom kingdom idea. I've felt like that since Links Awakening. The whole thing was the wind fish's dream. If he had been to the mushroom kingdom, it would explain why goombas, bloopers, and the other crossovers were there. Same world. Different kingdom.
I really like the Mushroom Kingdom idea!
@@HyruleGamer yeah, the world of Link's Awakening was all a dream.... but what did the Windfish dream about? Hyrule Warriors used the idea it was places and people the Windfish had seen. Thus Maron was real, it's just that Link didn't meet the real one in Link's Awakening.
Yeah or Links Awakening could in fact take place in between a collision of the Zelda and Mario universe. Just a stupid thing I decided to say.
I definitely think there are countries out there still, because if Hyrule could survive so ungodly long, some other country might have lasted at least past that 10000yr gap.
Also, one mystery I've wondered about is how far the Sheikah's influence reaches. In Hytopia there are wall masters made of tech with a blue glow and the Sheika eye on it but I wonder if it goes even farther
The Sheikah have so far been the closest to become g gods in the eyes of Non-Hyrule Natives
Yeah, it would make sense to add most of the not-Hyrule settings beyond the border of BotW's Hyrule for the sequel. Maybe a load screen could be added to each as a way of making clear these places aren't right next to each other but are neighboring lands.
I do wonder if BotW 2 will expand the borders of the game world. It would be awesome, though they are already doubling the world in a sense with the new sky world, as well as remixed surface. That's a lot of work by itself, so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
For Termina, I place the icy Snowhead/Goron Shrine region near southwest border of the Hebra region. This places Ikana area westof the Tabantha frontier and near the northwestern side of the Gerudo Highlands. Woodfall would on the outside of the Gerudo Highlands and portion of the Gerudo desert. The Great Bay area of course could connect to a larger sea/ocean that wraps around the Gerudo Desert (or potentially another area like Holodrum/Labrynna ) and connect with the Faron Sea
One quick detail people should really pay attention to in Tears of the Kingdom AND Breath of the Wild is how the massive canyon at the border of Hyrule. And I’m talking specifically about where the end of the canyon where that giant rock formation is. Because my theory is that the canyon actually used to be a river that connected to the ocean. But because of the rock formation. The flow of the river was dammed blocking the water from filling the entire canyon with water. And I have always wondered where we could end up if we were able to go past the part of the canyon where Mount Agaat is.
Do you think Hyrule was once the home of a long, forgotten civilization...The Zonai Tribe?
I've done some research and I noticed some Zonai architectures around in Hyrule. There mostly found in the Faron Region, but you can find some of their relics outside of the Faron Region.
I even noticed that in the first trailer of The Legend of Zelda Botw 2, there was a shot of a carving in a wall that could be depicting Ganondorf himself, riding with his loyal, monstrous horse, wielding his iconic, brutal trident into battle, but I even realised that there other horsemen riding with him. It could be the Gerudo because Ganondorf is the only other Gerudo that has a horse, meaning the females could have joined with him, but when I looked closely on the textures, it had some Zonai patterns, even on Ganondorf also.
It would make sense that the Zonai Tribe found a 'God', but was betrayed and were slaughtered by Ganondorf himself. It would explain the reason why they vanished suddenly thousands of years ago. Perhaps Ganondorf, was a False God.
There is an armour set in Botw called "The Barbarian Set". It raises the wearer's strength to have more power, and when I looked closely, it shocked me. In Botw 2, we see Ganondorf as more of a skeletal mummy with long, flaming red hair. And the Barbarian Helmet is very close connected to Ganondorf's appearance, a humanoid skull, fangs and curved horns, similar to Ganon's Horns, but it even includes long, crimson red hear, very similar to Ganondorf's long red hair. The rest of the set is almost made out of skeletal materials, a lot similar to Ganondorf's appearance as a skeleton.
It's possible that the Zonai crafted this behemoth armour, to look like Ganondorf himself, and to be considered as their God, but were betrayed by the Gerudo King himself, leaving behind their relics forgotten in Hyrule.
I hope this helps you Hyrule Gamer, and keep up your channel! :)
Me reading this after playing tears of the kingdom: 😅
@@Djembedude12 Lol my theory was very close
New Hyrule is one possibility. It might still be out there or maybe Breath's Hyrule is New Hyrule. We just have no idea for sure
True!
In phantom hourglass they sail from the great sea, old Hyrule, to New Hyrule. So either the land of new Hyrule is out there, or the land of Old Hyrule is out there. Weird people forget about those games.
Never forgot!
I really support the idea of Holodrum and Labrynna bordering Hyrule. A link to the past, both oracle games and links awakening all feature the same Link. I know koholint is a dream by the wind fish. I think its likely they border and people have said breath of the wild converges the timeliness. So its very likely IMO
Nice!
I was exploring west Eldin the other day when I noticed something. There is a whole forest of dead trees there. It’s probably the most heavily forested part of Eldin even if the trees are dead. And there are ruins there too. Hylian ruins with the characteristic small stone bricks, arches and small windows, a settlement prosperous enough to be built in stone.
But the ground there is the grey of cooled lava. What was once a pleasant, shady wood with a decent sized stone settlement (possibly surrounded by who knows how many wooden houses) was destroyed by a death mountain lava flow. Macabre really.
I remember in the Zelda 2 comics but out by Valiant Comics forever ago, west outside of Hyrule was a kingdom named Calatia, where Link was originally from. This would have been before almost all the lore was built up, so I doubt it's canon. I always liked it, though.
Oh cool
What if the world around and including Hyrule is similar to Tolkien's world? The Goddesses and Creators being part of the world just secluded in a protected segment, like the cloud barrier but also perhaps on the edges of the land itself. Like in Tolkien's world, the world is flat and the Valar are off in the untouchable West to create order and combat evil in the world. So what if the borders of Hyrule really is all there is to the world? Instead of viewing Hyrule as one kingdom of many races, Hyrule is simply the Kingdom of Men as the dominant force of the continent. Or even what if Hyrule is but one land-locked sandbox experiment for the Goddesses? There might be several iterations of "Hyrule" beyond the borders. Either a LoTR or Matrix twist lol
If I'm not mistaken the world of Middle Earth is a globe now, it became rounded after a continent sunk.
Also there is quite a bit that hints/shows Hyrule isn't all that's out there
Also, we haven't really gotten a look into Hylian Astronomy. I'd like to know what planets are outside of Hyrule or even what they named the planet that Hyrule is on.
As for the outer lands of Zelda 2, those are part of Hyrule as well. The area you explore in Zelda 1 is referred to as Lesser Hyrule in Zelda 2 material, and makes up the area at the base of Death Mountain. The rest of the map is Greater Hyrule.
Termina is consistently referred to as a parallel world in most official media, except for the Legend of Zelda Encyclopedia which states it's an artificial land created by Majora's Mask from the memories of Link, Skull Kid, and itself. But the same group that wrote the encyclopedia put that forward as a fan theory decades ago, and there are lots of mistakes in both that book and the Mario Encyclopedia they wrote, so I don't put much weight in it.
I am almost certain that Hytopia, Labrynna, and Holodrum are out there, or at least their ruins. Koholint probably isn't, though, since the Wind Fish's skeleton is in Gerudo Desert. And while I know it's not likely due to being written off as terrible unofficial media at this point, I'd like to think Gamelon, Koridai, and Tolemac could possibly be there.
Wait WHO’S SKELETON IS IN GERUDO DESERT?
I've sometimes wondered if the Hyrule from Spirit Tracks might be out there somewhere. IF I recall correctly, Niko tells the tale of how Zelda(Tetra) and Link sailed until they found a 'new land' to settle in and establish a new kingdom of Hyrule, whilst the old one remains under the sea (cue music here). Anjean the Lokomo had met Tetra when she first arrived, I think, so that presupposes some kind of civilization that was there before....They have their own lore with the spirits of good and the demon king they sealed under the tower of spirits.....
Oh it definitely is!
Cool!
Imagine if in botw 2 you could go to the shore and see stuff washing up from new hyrule, or maybe even like a super old wreckage of Lineback’s ship, if I saw something like that I think I would probably start crying.
If there are lands outside Hyrule, would Demise's curse and influence decrease the further you are from Hyrule?
I think so yes
i thought of that to
So let me just think about this real quick...
If Link, Zelda, and Ganon left Hyrule entirely would the curse break?
I absolutely think what's out beyond the map in BotW is the super massively scaled up Zelda 2 map
It would be SO AWESOME if they just kept adding content to the breath of the wild map. We love that world SO MUCH that the thought of it ever expanding from game to game would be so wonderful.
That would indeed be really cool!
I'm surprised, during the mushroom kingdom follow up, that you didn't make any reference to Links Awakening. Definitely some mushroom kingdom folk in that. Always love the content HG, would be great to see another collab, Zeltik, NBC, etc. Cheers!
I would love it if there were more villages scattered around in botw 2 would give us more quests and story lines
Yes please! Just yes please!!
All we got was Lookout Landing and a mini stable.
I hope we'll be able to explore the Lands Beyond Hyrule in tears of the Kingdom.
I’m hoping we get to explore beyond Hyrule.
same!
Id rather stay where im comfortable :)
Grass is 100% out there.
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If you go to the most southwestern cliff from Mount Granajh and just above the edge of the Gerudo Desert, you can use the Sheikah Slate to scope beyond the Gerudo Desert. There, you can spot mountains and a large lake in the direction beyond the leviathan skeleton in the corner of the map.
It kinda looks like australia.
I can definitely see the Mushroom Kingdom as being in the same universe as Hyrule, especially due to the fact that ever since the first legend of Zelda game in 1986, there have been elements from each game in each other's game. For instance, the same blocks that Mario has to climb in order to jump onto the flagpole in Super Mario Bros are present in every dungeon in LOZ1, 3, and the gameboy games. We've seen some Mario enemies like chain chomps in Zelda dungeons. The Warp Whistle in Mario 3 is ripped right out of LoZ1. Link has even joined in on the Mario Kart fun. Hell, he brought his Master Cycle!
And do I even need to bring up Super Smash Brothers?
I have honestly no idea what Universe Smash and Mario cart exist in.
Even though it’s only in the adult timeline, New Hyrule could still be out there
Or, in the Adult Timeline, New Hyrule becomes this Hyrule.
@@OtakuUnitedStudio that would be such a good theory, but then where is the spirit tower? (But like actually that’s so good cus the biomes in new hyrule match almost perfectly, only outlier being the desert location)
Well, I am CERTAIN there will be voyagers out on the ocean, and maybe we'll see some wind water references from there, and I noticed some Lurelin boats resemble whales- could we see another leviathan out there?
100% 👀
i think Termina is a Dark World version of a place called Eterna, (just like Hyrule and Lorule) and that there was a bridge north of the Forgotten Woods that connected the two lands.
Which means, Link was headed towards Eterna, when he ended up in Termina instead.
Oh interesting
Tbh I always liked the idea of The Mushroom Kingdom being within the same universe, possibly just on different continents. The cameos between games, tyrannical rulers with great magical prowess, undead creatures, portals to other realms... I know it's not really meant to be connected but really a Mario game could be like a Zelda game, just look at the Mario RPGs and their darker tones and wider cast of characters.
It would be really cool tbh
Personally, I don’t like the idea but it's probably because Hylians have more human features than the only Humans in Mario.
Another great video as always :D
I really like all of those ideas
I remember the first time I played Majora's Mask (when I was 10) I never really thought much about where/what termina was but it's really interesting to think about I always loved ikana especially that's definitely my favorite part (and clock town)
Have a nice day/night :)
I think if Termina does exist, it would be east of Hyrule and across the sea. Like setting sail from Akkala and ending up in Great Bay.
There is a great possibility of the Mushroom Kingdom being on the same planet as Hyrule. Even so much as to be neighbouring kingdoms. Labrynna, Holodrum, and Koholint would most likely be along the borders with the mix of Mario and Zelda enemies. Even if you argue that Koholint was a dream, there's still the fact that the Wind Fish dreamt up the goombas, piranha plants, spinies, boos, etc. Wait... I was going to argue about the wind fish having seen those creatures as it swam the oceans prior to being put to sleep, but now I'm thinking, what if all of Mario's games take place within a dream world? A dream world Link ended upon waking up the wind fish...
I want Link and Mario to meet!
The Zonai are like the Mephisto of breath of the wild at this point lol
Yeah i think it's safe to assume there are village out there because getting out of hyrule during the calamity 100 years ago seems like a smart idea
The Mushroom Kingdom being in the Zelda universe isn't too farfetched either.
Link's awakening features enemies from Mario like the Bob-omb and Goomba, as well as some novelty jokes that nod toward the little fat plumber, like Tarin being a mushroom hunter and transforming to a Tanuki or Raccoon. While all if the events of Link's Awakening did happen within the dream of the Wind Fish, that doesn't mean it's out the window, because the Wind Fish is still a resident of Hyrule for the most part. What could've made him dream about creatures and entities from an entirely different universe? Answer, they're somewhere in the same universe and the Wind Fish has seen them.
I read somewhere about another speculation that Link's Awakening is not just a dream by the Wind Fish, but a dream that amalgamates everything the Wind Fish has witnessed in its lifetime into one island. Wouldn't be far off either, aside from the heavily influence Mario references, Animal Village reminds me of Animal Crossing as well.(Yes I know Animal Crossing came after the first Link's Awakening, but Animal Crossing probably had its inspiration *from* Link's Awakening.)
There's also the Mario paintings in the Hyrule Castle in Ocarina of Time which also point to the Mushroom Kingdom being a known location to the Hylians. Since that isn't a dream sequence like the events of Link's Awakening, we know for a fact that it's something that has to be canon to the universe. A lot of people just like to say it's Nintendo references but, I'm more inclined to just say it's part of the world somewhere and the Royal Family know about it.
It really is not too far-fetched!
I like to think of Hyrule, Labrynna and Holodrum to be a continent all together, and since ordon vanished throughout the years, i like to think since it was so far out of hyrule after the great flood it became its own Island/country, i like to think of it that way.
I'm sure there are other kingdoms out past Hyrule. I think, if you can find the tree trunk portal, you can visit Termina. Lorule is probably still through a trippy crack.
Your guess is as good as mine, but these are definitely disproven:
I'm pretty sure Termina was confirmed to be an alternate world in the "Collector's Edition" for the Gamecube, in the game description of Majora's Mask, which some people seem to not realize. (I'll have to check, I'll quote it when I read it)
Koholint Island is most likely just a figment in a dream.
Lorule, is definitely an alternate Hyrule, along with the Dark World
Edit with the Majora's Mask description: "While it was a direct sequel to Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask was clearly a Zelda of a different color, as Link wandered into a three-day journey in a *mysterious parallel world."*
This proves Termina is a parallel world, as stated by Nintendo themselves.
I mean surely, another thing to consider though is the timeline split from old hyrule, the flooding, and the discovery of the continent that becomes new hyrule. It’s also not consistently defined what hyrule geographically is. It seems to be a continent in some stuff but just a country with land borders in others, and although officially called the kingdom of hyrule, is more like a union of several kingdoms seeing as the zoras, gerudo, and Gorons all have their own kings or are chiefdoms, maybe considered subjects of the king of hyrule but not actually hylians, but that sounds a bit imperialismy. Points to the existence of other tribes, chiefdoms or kingdoms out there that would constitute a country.
Oh my god I have been waiting for so long for someone to make a theory of what is out there! You have no idea how looooooong ago I have been waiting
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3:20 in the Hyrule Encyclopedia is written that Termina is a Parallel Universe
Isn't that Historia?
@@HyruleGamerI'm Sorry, I have the Italian version, which is probably named differently
@@HyruleGamer BTW your vids are so good
Video I Would Love To See: Items/Dungeons that will come to future Zelda games. I personally think that the game developers should add A Ribbon which controls Sand or Air. It could manipulate them and create a vortex which allows you get to another platform or propel you higher when Ravioli's gale is not present. But this is my idea! Hope you could consider this vid Idea!
Interesting 👀
Oh! You looked at my comment! Tysm!!!
To me, the GEOGRAPHY of Termina exists in the far west of Hyrule, but no one settled there. In another timeline, similar to Lorule, Hylians renouced the Triforce, and settled to a place far beyound temptation or knowledge of it existence, creating Termina. So that'd make 3 different worlds, Hyrule, where the Triforce is worshipped, Lorule, where the Triforce was destroyed from desperation, and Termina, where the Triforce and anything godly was abandonned and civilisation started anew beyond the mountains of Hebra and Snowpeak, and the cragged steppe of Ikana.
Bit hey, that's just a theory, a yatta yatta don't @ me people, this is my headcanon because I want to see a complete map of Hyrule with as much references as I can fit that would still work lorewise
I love your intro and outro. The intro with wolf link . The twilight is one of my fav games. I love Zelda games and love wolves. Combo complete!
Video idea: What would the inverse of botw hyrule be like; basically like how they did it for Link to the Past. Also I havent commented here in a while but Ive been here since less than 10k. You amaze me with your videos and humor. Thanks for that :)
Inverse of botw as in its own "dark world" so to say? Is that what you mean? If so that'd be so cool!!
@@HyruleGamer Yup like the "dark world"! Thanks for responding!
I have always had the idea that since the Demon Tribe only really seems to care about Hyrule Kingdom that given the level of technology seen throughout the series and the likely 50,000 plus years separating BotW from any other game that the rest of the world is equally if not more advanced than out own world. The rest of the world simply agreeing to have no contact with Hyrule and is neighbouring countries until they sort out their issues. Within the hundred year gap of BotW we already see the Sheikah tribe fracture into two clans, who is to say that other the hundred of thousands of years that large groups of Sheikah haven't gone on to start other nations where they were free of the Triforce and Ganon.
Oh interesting thing to note 👀
The mushroom kingdom kinda has to be out there. The Easter egg from OoT kinda makes that a thing. Despite its there just to be an Easter egg for us, they are now canon in the Zelda universe
Mario x Link will become Canon someday
in phantom hourglass there are some treasure seekers in a boat that speak about their homeland in another continent
The landmass where New Hyrule from Spirit Tracks is definitely out there
This isn't really relevant to this video, but it something I've always been confused about. When Ganon's Malice corrupted the Guardians and made them destroy everything, why didn't the same happen to the Divine Beasts after the Champions were defeated? Why did they just stop doing anything (until Link's awakening)? Surely it would be WAY easier to take out Link and Zelda with one, or ALL the divine beasts, as well as the Guardians?
Maybe he had no use for them after he won
@@Adventureruleryeah maybe, but I recon he probably could have KILLED link and zelda BEFORE she managed to unlock her powers. As powerful as Link is I don't think he could defend her against a Divine Beast.
Hyrule might be some kind of cursed or forbidden place by other lands' standards. 'Don't venture to the land beyond the (medium), after the terrible journey only monsters and curses await.'
Oh maybe!
This idea may be out there in terms of craziness, but I’m gonna say that there’s a giant axolotl with an entire civilization living either on it or in it.
Why an axolotl specifically? Easy: not only do they look like the cutest things in the universe, but also look like they know the secrets of the universe but have the Wii Shop music playing on loop in their heads.
Oh wow :0
My theory is that Termina is in fact real and exists on the opposite side of the continent from Hyrule.
Obviously Hyrule is on a large land mass so there are different coasts and such, Termina is on the far west coast since the Bay is on the West. What I believe could have happened was that at one point in Hyrule's history, the kingdom decided that it was time to expand its reach and colonize the other coast so that way they have access to even more resources. This can easily explain why we see in the original version of majora's mask we see symbols of the triforce on some surfaces and why the guards have similar armor. And over the long years, without frequent contact with Hyrule as the people used to have, they also changed their religion over time. It isn't uncommon for cities that have sprung up in different parts of the land to have their religion slightly change over time, Hell that's what happened to the Abrahamic Religions. I say this because the people in Termina worship the goddess of time, just like Hyrule, but they do not worship the other 3 goddesses.
One last thing to note about Link teleporting to Termina, let us remember that the Lost Woods also have gateways to Zora's Domain and Goron City even though they are clearly nowhere near the Woods. So who's to say that didn't also happen when Link fell into Termina.
Always wondered what happened to the original dungeons from the first legend of Zelda game.
Grooseland
Yes
There's probably a new island each time the Wind Fish takes a nap.
Maybe it's whales dreaming all the way down. Wind Fish in Hyrule is just a dream of a bigger cosmic flying whale; hopefully it never wakes up :P
@@QuasarEE I like to think it's more like this: You are the dreamer, AND the dream. (From Star Trek DS9: Far beyond the Stars)
I love this!
I just thought I'd love to see a ghost town and a haunted cemetery in botw2! Maybe monster villages/territories too. Peaceful little monster towns!
If Hylia created Hyrule, then other gods have made their own lands on this earth that aged for 35 video game years, but for millions of years in the lore of the franchise.
True...
Theres a great video on HGs discord under "everything zelda" showing the surrounding area in great detail. Theres a huge lake out there.. Havent played Oracles or Minish but see if the maps correspond with the geography. Id be interested to see if anything lines up..
Oh interesting! I'll try and find that :)
also isn't it said in OOT by Zelda that Ganon wants to conquer the world not just hyrule? That itself suggests hyrule isnt the only country of this world.
Oh true...
My theory is that Termina is a real-world country, but the Termina we saw in Majora's Mask was just a dream.
The drablands I think would be interesting to see in zelda 2.
I definitely see a new hightopia out there along with Labryanna and Holodrum being out there.
And outskirts island is 100% out there because we can find the Zelda 1 first dungeon island in the lost woods so it makes sense, it also adds to the whole unified timeline thing and who knows maybe outset island is out there as well.
As for the Mushroom kingdom I think Hyrule is just the ancient past then The Mushroom kingdom time is the far present and splatoon the far future and Kirby the far far future.
Then fire emble is the ancient ancient past.
Mushroom Kingdom lol
Should have watched video to the end 😂
Yes haha
Hytopia and the drablands would probably be north of the hebra region, since we know that north of eldin/akala, is northern hyrule, where AoL takes place.
I actually once made a giant map of hyrule based on botw, and combined abunch of differnent lands to it. I had new hyrule, labrynna, and holodrum on their own single continent across the sea. AoL was to the north. unfortunatly, i forgot to include hytopia :(
Termina is short for terminal, like airport terminal. A world that links all other worlds it seems?
Think of the woods in A Nightmare Before Christmas, with all the doors leading to other worlds.
Terminal also means the end of something. It could be referring to Termina's moon coming down
One of the things I'm certain of is other "Ganon"s... like, not literal boar monsters, but demon kings/queens/etc. that were created by Demise's curse... okay, so I'm not fully 100% certain, but still XD
TL;DR for what's below: theory time.
Okay, so, I have this theory about Minish Cap... in the very beginning, when Vaati takes the Picori Sword and opens the chest, a bunch of spirits fly out... and suddenly, there are monsters in Hyrule! (Oh, and, by the way, there were exactly 8 spirits flying out, which is a common number of bosses and dungeons in the series, but there are only 5 dungeons in this specific game.)
My theory is that Demise's curse took *immediate* effect, rather than waiting centuries until OoT, and thus began the Era of Chaos. During that time, the Minish helped the Hylians seal the 8 spirits into the chest and Picori Sword. Thus began the Era of Prosperity.
And how does the Era of Prosperity end, and the Force Era begin? With the Minish Cap. Vaati opens the chest, releases the 8 Curses of Demise, loosing uncountable evils upon Hyrule that were never truly cleansed. How does the Force Era end? With the Hyrule Unification War... and the beginning of OoT. The beginning of Ganondorf.
Vaati released 8 Curses upon Hyrule, of which Ganon was only one. We can guess at other Curses' names, such as Malladus or Bellum. Hell, even Majora might be a Curse, if Termina isn't an AU... but that still leaves at least 4 Curses left unnamed. 4 beings as strong as Ganon, with their own histories and personalities, just as old as Ganon.
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pretty sure World of the Ocean King is a alternate universe, but i’m pretty confident Malladus is part of demise’s curse.
@@ortherner Right, Right, but the Ocean King himself comes from the physical world, so Bellum may have as well... mind you, I did mention it was only a guess.
(Also, thanks for reminding me, it had been a while since I had played PH, and I wasn't even sure I had spelled "Bellum" right XD)
I like the idea of different games connecting, what if the chozo visited whatever planet hyrule is on and they settled there and SOME the technology is a product of the chozo teaching people how to develop machines ect. 100% unlikely but it's always fun to think and theorize
Something interesting with the mushroom kingdom thing, is that Link physically appeared in the mushroom kingdom in super Mario rpg
Super Mario RPG is, of course, non canonical.
Oh true...
He was also a planned easter egg in a gba game i think. But got scrapped.
I think new hyrule could be out somewhere because I find hard to believe that the triforce just made up all that lore. Based on the wish by the king in Wind Waker. Like the lokomo tribe, the spirit tracks, the demon king malladus.
For all we know botw hyrule could be new hyrule but my only problem with that is how did ganon and the master sword get from the bottom of the ocean to new hyrule. If this was true.
Also the people from New Hyrule don't use the triforce symbol to my knowledge..
@@ghoulchan7525 I don’t remember if they did or not. I haven’t played spirit tracks in years, so I don’t remember much about it.
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love that intro!
Thanks!
ARE there any other countries/kingdoms in the Zelda world? And if so, why aren't they *constantly warring with Hyrule* to gain access to that _sweet, sweet, magical wish-granting Triforce treat?_
*-Temina?* Alt reality/dream, depending on who you ask.
*-Lorule?* Alt reality.
*-Twilight Realm?* Alt reality.
*-Koholint Island?* Fishy.
*-Sacred Realm?* Alt reality.
*-Silent Realm?* Alt reality.
*-Holodrum and Labrynna?* Again, alt realities *per various wikis.* These may be real lands, but it is entirely debatable as Link is only able to visit these lands via Triforce Teleportation.
*-Ordona Province?* Same reality, but does not have its own power structure, is beholden to Hyrule (gifting the Hyrule royal family the Ordon Sword), and is most likely a part of Hyrule as it's called a "province".
*-Hytopia?* Same reality, but gets assimilated into Hyrule (per the Encyclopedia) despite almost everyone possessing phenomenal magic - just like the varied "kingdoms" around Hyrule shortly before the start of Ocarina of Time.
*-Land of the Spirits of Good?* If there was a country or people still here, Tetra & Link slaughtered/subjugated them all in just a few years, as Castles & Kingdoms takes time to build and Spirit Tracks happens only 100 years after Wind Waker.
_-Mushroom Kingdom?_ Per Mario Odyssey, there does not seem to be a land mass matching Hyrule on that particular planet.
Then there are items like the Cane of Somaria which are said to come from other lands, but these are mostly one-off items that _imply other lands once existed_ but there's no guarantee that they _still do._ Heck, "Somaria" may have been an ancient name for the Eastern Hills before it became part of Hyrule for all anyone knows.
Hyrule is a kingdom that has intentionally stunted/limited its technological development throughout its entire history. Would other peoples in other kingdoms/countries limit themselves the same way for similar reasons...or are they just not organized...or _are they not even out there?_
As an example, in the 100 years after the Calamity in BotW...where are the foreign explorers? The diplomats investigating the sudden silence? The foreign soldiers sent to fill the sudden power vacuum or evidence that they came and left after seeing big-&-ugly over the castle? The foreign danger seekers? The scavengers and thieves out to take whatever they can find? _Any_ evidence of a foreign power looking to claim the Triforce for their own _even with_ big-&-ugly floating around?
Is it possible...that there are no other countries in the world containing Hyrule? Did nearly NO other land develop its own country/kingdom/empire? The Triforce is a *wish-granting MacGuffin capable of re-writing reality* - if it were real every nation on Earth would destroy the world a thousand times over in their attempt to gain it for themselves, with the thought that they can just wish the world NOT a radioactive wasteland once they have it.
Or, as with Hytopia, do other lands have their own power/super-relics/magical-nukes and don't want/need to bother with an all-powerful Triforce? It's not as though Hyrule exists within its own microcosm, as we can see its expansion in Adventure of Link & Spirit Tracks. On the other hand, did other countries once exist but were wished away to protect Hyrule? Is this something that someone in Hyrule's history actually did? Zelda when she was first starting Hyrule post Skyward Sword? Hylia (or a follower of her on her orders as she couldn't use the Triforce herself) in the times before Skyward Sword? Ganondorf after he gained part of the Triforce in Ocarina of Time? The "Triforce using monarchs" as described in the "downfall timeline" after Tri Force Heroes but before the original game?
The last seems the most likely to me if we're going down this rabbit hole, as the Triforce had been hidden away before events in A Link Between Worlds but in Hyrule itself well before events in the first game. Could such a wish, to "topple all other countries" or "peace from foreign invasion", actually topple all countries across the three timelines? How did those monarchs who are listed as using the Triforce in the timeline/Adventure of Link's manual actually use it? We know there are other people out there thanks to Lurelin Village, _but not other organized countries._
On that note, the cannons at Akkala Citadel could exist to battle human invaders and/or monster invaders. Yet it's at such an odd location to intercept an eastern invasion as it cedes a _lot_ of land for it to act as a point of defense, and does nothing as an early warning location of invasion for the residents/monarchy of Central Hyrule. You'd think it would be situated at/near the coast if it were to fight/deter eastern invasion or even sea pirates. It's a military installation at a location that makes little militaristic sense, much like Snowpeak Ruins. These locations do nothing to prove, nor disprove, other countries existing beyond Hyrule's supposed borders. And there does not seem to be similar outposts otherwise in Hyrule in Breath of the Wild for the other cardinal directions, either.
_This is all (mostly - some editing occurred) from a comment I left in another video of a similar subject by Dr Wily - __th-cam.com/video/QX7BgaHtres_/w-d-xo.html
I always like to think Archanea, Elibe, Magvel, Tellius, Valentia, and Fodlan are outside of Hyrule, to me it seems plausible. Like if u agree.
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I think Termina is definitely some kind of parallel world, especially after Link Between Worlds. I think Lorule and Termina are in the same place.
I don't really care how they go about the additional lands thing, but I really want Nintendo to include races from previous games that haven't been used much. When the first trailer was revealed I thought it would be cool if the Subrosans made a return. Or the Mogma.
I ultimately just would like to see more subterranean areas in the game as well as the skylands.
Of course Termina doesn’t lie in the same earth where Hyrule exists so it should be in a parallel world: The most logical hint is the moon. None of the Zelda Games ever had such a creepy Moon with Face except for Majoras Mask 🌝
I kind of want Termina to be in the same world as Hyrule because it's so unique, but I want it to be parallel also for the same reason lol.
But if it really is a parallel world, then what's outside Termina?
@@thedarkside6712. Nobody knows as Termina is a very different place.
It would be much more interesting if the Zelda Timeline was just ONE BIG Timeline 😉!
I like to believe that Termina is real and in the same world as Hyrule but I believe it lies very far to the east across the ocean and Link was teleported there by the lost woods.