Have you thought about the possibility that the zonai were a secret society comprised of all the races in Hyrule (like the white lotus in avatar the last Airbender) this would include the secret moblin and the resistance from TP but even if it’s not the zonai a secret society would make sense in the Zelda world PS I love your videos your my favourite Zelda tuber
I'm surprised you didn't mention the "exit" in north Akkala, the land bridge that separates the Akkala Sea from the chasm north of Death Mountain. That seems to be an obvious place to travel in and out of Hyrule and what I always assumed the Akkala Citadel was built to guard. I was a little sad after first discovering it that it just blocks you with an invisible wall. Had it been up to me I would have put a gated wall there (similar to Fort Hateno) with NPC guards that tell you they will not allow anyone to leave as they don't want the calamity to spread. My personal headcanon is that the surrounding kingdoms/countries quarantined Hyrule after the calamity.
@@GeorgeZimmermen I know its just a game and it's irrational, but the combination of the wind blowing back towards the land, the open stretch leading towards the jagged rocks ahead, the endless ocean on one side and the deep pit on the other, and the cliffs looming overhead all just give me vibes that its not a place I want to be.
Plot twist: There are other lands and peoples, but they all have their own version of Ganon too. Hyrule Refugees: Oh thank the Goddess Hylia! Finally we have escaped destruction and found a new land in which to make our home. Other Peoples: Welcome, weary travelers! Surely you have endured much on your journey, but the gods have delivered you here. Rest and be at ease. Know that ours is a land of peace and prosperity. We are a center of trade, of art, and of technology. And yet...we live under the shadow of fear. For prophecy tells that a great evil will soon return to darken these lands. We call this darkness...Calamity Gary. Hyrule Refugees: OH FOR #&@^!'S SAKE.
Uhm, we know for a fact that there are other countries outside of Hyrule. Holodrum and Labrynna for example? Surely the entire world didn't just vanish. So no matter whether or not people managed to flee the kingdom, there are definitely other people, other civilizations out there.
Although one could argue that holodrum, labrynna and other lands like hytopia were integrated into an expanded hyrule since there are places names that refer to those regions in botw
@@mrsylar91 But are those references canon or simply Easter eggs? I mean we also have references to Koholint island. Personally I think that those references are just non-canon Easter eggs for the player. If there were landmarks that are recognizable to be from those particular countries, it would be a different matter. But as far as I can tell, the general map of those countries simply doesn't fit anywhere into BotW's Hyrule. (Sorry if nothing I just wrote makes sense. I'm sick and my brain is a bit mushy right now)
@@Tatokat yea it makes sense. Everything being in hyrule doesnt make sense, there has to be other kingdoms, towns, settlements, etc not affiliated with the thing that the giant scary demon monster wants to destroy
So when there's a blood moon, would those kingdoms see it too, but not experience the effects from it, so they would just be like "Why did the moon just start turning red every week or so?"? I'm assuming Gannon's monsters don't extend past the kingdom of Hyrule.
Holodrum and Labrinna are shown to be other large kingdoms in past games, and have similar geography to Hyrule,. It is also confirmed that Zora and Gorons live in the two kingdoms too. I think there's a good chance that as each kingdom grew over time the borders of each stayed close, even if no one goes to Hyrule anymore. After all, no one stays near areas that can kill them, especially with monsters of all things.
@@fancychipss I always thought that Termina was an alternate parallel reality like Lorule. Link found it through the lost woods from a teleport spot(like the ones that bring you to Zoras domain and Goron city) and that's why the people are doubles of the ones in Hyrule.
Don't forget Koridai and Gamelon, two very relevant islands from two very relevant CDI games which would almost certainly exist in this iteration of Zelda.
If you go to the western peak of Mt. Drena when the skies are clear, you can look across the chasm from the North Lomei Labyrinth, you can see another square labyrinth! I have tried pointing this out in the comments of several Zelda Tuber videos, but no one ever seems to see it or care, yet I haven't seen anyone talk about it?!
I actually went there by going out of bounds, and it turns out it's actually a giant shadow. For some reason the devs just stuck a big shadow of one of the Labyrinths out of bounds, maybe to test something.
i know im a bit late to this, but its actually possible to get past the world borders! If you don't mind using glitches, there is a way you can clip through the borders and explore beyond, the map is said to be 3x as big as the main map, although there is nothing there of course. i've only explored just westward, but its really fascinating.
Labrinna and Holodrum could easily be within a few days' horse ride beyond the western or northern borders. Heck, even Termina, or somewhere similar, could be out there somewhere, miles and miles away from the destroyed Hyrule.
I think that Labrynna and/or Holodrum are across the ocean, since Link in Link’s Awakening was journeying from there when his ship was struck by lightning. (If I remember correctly.)
I love the possibility but termina is another dimension thats supposedly reached through the lost woods. Which makes it infinitely more cool if thats what happened.
@@johnprieto435 Right, the 1st game only took place in a small part of hyrule where noone lived but a few hermits, that's why there where no villages. In other games it is not only mentioned that Link left to other lands (such as the opening of Link's awakening) but I also beleive a few mention he (that incarnation) came to Hyrule from another land. So like with the fishing village mentioned we do know there are lands out there...it is just that Nintendo doesn't seam to really care at all what they are...
I was going to comment this. Someone beat me to it, I'm glad. I actually found this out by viewing Region Break on Shesez's channel. I still want to play Zelda 2, maybe tomorrow.
While playing the Oracle games, I always envisioned the lands of Holodrum, Labrynna, and an unknown kingdom, existing in a geographical triangle, akin to the Triforce, with Hyrule at its center. With the Oracles representing each of the three Goddesses, it would make sense if their respective kingdoms were laid out in the same configuration as the Power, Wisdom, and Courage pieces of the Triforce
If there are civilizations away from hyrule, i wonder why they haven’t sent any support to hyrule after the calamity. They have to know about the news and now things have calmed down. So why not send military help or just resources. Maybe the neighboring kingdoms want to use the calamity as a way to weaken Hyrule as it’s the most powerful kingdom.
I would expect that there simply isn't enough reason to trade with Hyrule, in its current dark age. If I had to guess, Hyrule just doesn't produce enough surplus trade goods to even begin a supply train, let alone the infrastructure to maintain regular commerce beyond its borders. That's just me spit-balling, but even other traders who arrive from outside would probably find Hyrule with little to offer in return for the effort.
With all of reoccurring Ganon cycle, Hyrule's neighbors probably thought "Nah, they'll be fine. They do this thing all the time, why should we get into this eternal mess?" :D
Could be that the Calamity event didn't just effect Hyrule. For all we know, the monster presence is just as bad surrounding Hyrule as it is in Hyrule proper. Sure, Ganon's powers probably get less potent the further out you go, but there's no reason to think it conforms to Hyrule's boarders. It's not like Calamity Ganon picked up a map and was like "well, these are the boarders, so we really gotta make sure the corrupts guardians and my monster hoard don't cross it, that would totally ruin our geopolitical goals."
This was my question for the longest time. Do they know about Calamity Ganon? What is the lore that they know? Do the Sheikah perhaps communicate with them? Is the outside more or less advanced? What is the population of the planet? Has anyone decided to make the trek to map it?
I think it's possible the giant canyon is evidence of Hyrule being its own continent plate, like India, slowly moving away from the mainland and comparing the maps of each game kinda shows that in skyward sword, Hyrule is completely landlocked but by BoTW there is a giant canyon on one side and a full on Ocean on the other
My first thoughts were I thought one of the Guardian Dragons carved out that canyon to ensure that the Calamity does not spread outside the boarders of the Hyrule Kingdom. or possibly a bunch of soldiers bombed the shit out of that part of the land to create a trench for the purpose to keep the Calamity in or to keep invaders out?
If I'm not mistaken maybe some of the refugees from the calamity fled to the surounding counties such as Holodrum Labryna and maybe even Termina if they were able to make it through the lost woods.
The Twilight Princess music in the intro was so nostalgic and brought me back so hard I completely missed everything you said after that for about a solid minute
Well, we have already seen other kingdoms in the series, so as long as any one of them still exists somehow (which would be unbelievable for a gap of at least 10000 years, but Hyrule managed longer than that... somehow, despite multiple power vacuums) there would be civilization out there. For refugees fleeing Hyrule I believe it's most likely to have happened by the coasts.
Just looking outside of the border from the main map honestly gives me an eerie vibe. And especially if you actually manage to glitch your way outside of it because it is completely empty. No living creatures no people to talk to not even any enemies. Same thing with clipping yourself out of bounds in Trial of the Sword.
Imagine the possibilities to explore different cultures across the world. I imagine the reason there isn't really any travel in from the outside is because the rest of the world considers Hyrule cursed land/a lost cause. But with the Calamity gone, maybe we could see an influx. From the sea, from the distant plains, from over the mountains...maybe even an opportunistic invasion? Unlikely, but a cool thought nonetheless.
Further, what if there are other more advanced civilizations in the gunpowder age or further that didn’t want to deal with the cataclysms Hyrule had, and with all their greed, had the inclination to colonize Hyrule, convert its population to their religion and destroy its culture? What if Gannondorf was acting as a buffer from all this because foreign powers found its riches alluring but found it too hostile because of Calamity and the monsters that infested the lands? Nintendo has yet to explore the idea of foreign powers in any Zelda timeline. Maybe they might use it for a future title? 🤔
Ive always wonderd why youd want to move to hyrule like oh I hear that a place that is consistently inhabited my demons exists let me leave this safe kindom and move there
Mini theory: everything outside the borders are other versions of Hyrule so that's why it looks different sometimes, or why monsters look different or don't exist. When Zelda link and Gannon die, they go to another Hyrule to let the one they were at recover
I always loved standing at the northern edge of Akkala and looking at the green hills on the other side of the cliff. What stories and mysteries could be found in that land?
Well, other than the land that would be known as New Hyrule, Labynna and Holodrum are out there as well as Hytopia. I'd imagine they're fairly close to one another.
I'm sure I've mentioned my theory before, about how the eastern coast of Breath of the Wild lines up rather well with the western mainland of Zelda 2, with the starting palace being the Zora domain in Breath of the Wild. This means that there could be some substantial landmasses out to the east. I could provide a link to my theory, if you like.
That makes no logical sense, the Calamity Ganon IS the invasion of Hyrule along with the monsters that are possessed by the forces of Ganon's Malice. Any other country or unknown civilization wouldn't be dumb enough to attempt a full on invasion as they will most likely perish at the hands of the remaining Guardians or a gang of Moblins and the Malice pools itself. Plus we already have Age of Calamity that does exactly what you said.
And it does make some logical sense because say a rival Kingdom is waiting for Hyrule to get weekend by the calamity and or by some outside force they then could invade since hyrule is weak. And that comment was stating that they could invade sometime after Gannon is defeated. It’s not not stated directly but if you put just a bit of thought into it. It’s implied. But no you decided to shitpost on a old comment instead of read
@@MobiusTrigger7 Enemy forces that invade Hyrule is literally in every Zelda game as that's the nature of the games. If you don't like the way the concept presents itself than maybe Zelda games isn't in your taste. All I can say is Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity is a hack n slash game about stopping Ganon's invasion along with surprising plot twists as that's exactly what your implying you want in a game.
I know that everyone wants sky islands/flying hyrule castle/skyloft, loads of caves, and underwater exploration in BotW2 - and I do too. But I also REALLY want to see the BOTW map expand at least 1.5 or 2 times. I want to see the map extend in all four directions. Or, at the VERY least, I want to see the ocean extend massively eastward with a lot more islands as well as interesting ocean things to do. If they extended the desert, those "hills" could've instead been a huge "dunes land" maybe similar to White Sands National Park in New Mexico - it'd be really cool to have a place to go for lots of new shield surfing slopes but WITHOUT having to deal with the doom-n-gloom of Hebra's darkness and bad music. As for the west and the north, ANYTHING could be beyond them and i'd find it rad, but some things I would love to see is maybe a dark wasteland similar to Mordor (LotR) or the Wilderness (Runescape) and could be an optional area with SUPER HARD monsters and shrines/caves only. I'd also love to see a massive graveyard (similar to the one in the original Zelda) and/or a big ghosty land, like the Stone Tower region in Majoras Mask. I also would love to see a huge swampland, and not just the occasional tiny easily skipped marsh - similar to the one we saw in Majora's Mask or the massive swamp lands in LoTR. It'd also be cool to have a "Redwoods" type area with trees that are so tall/fat they're basically impossible to scale - perhaps with a "city in the sky" in the treetops!
Well, we know the Zora came into Hyrule from the sea, in BotW, before establishing Zora's Domain. They always set their capital on land, albeit connected to water, so they must have come from some other continent. As far as I'm aware, that is the only confirmed outside people to have contact (other than the unconfirmed people that the Citadel was built to repel), but I would suspect there used to be a more international trade when Hyrule was at it's height.
@@jonahdunch4056 Good point. I think the lore only says they found their spot and gathered to create Zora's Domain ~10,000 years prior. I guess they could have come from any direction, since the tall, inaccessible landscape surrounding Hyrule could just be mostly figurative to the story, and there are still shorelines to travel along, or they could have always been in Hyrule and only then decided to build a nation. I thought I remember some lore talking about them coming from the sea, but that could just be bad memory. It's a bit ambiguous, but I think the fact that Zora's Domain is basically near where it was in Ocarina of Time, and they talk about this new Domain as having a distinct origin, plus they remember Ruto and her legend--means there was some long period away from the land. I could be wrong though--thanks for pointing that out. In any case, they do have a longstanding connection to the land, which would be in-line with them already being there as well. Maybe Calamity whomped them 20,000 years prior, and they forgot a lot of history after having their domain destroyed.
@@nickcurrant2254 Is this info from the Zora Stone Monuments (or whatever they're called)? I just don't remember where their origin is discussed. If it is said that they come from elsewhere, it's plausible that they came from the sea. We know that Zora lived in the sea by Labrynna even in the distant past of Oracle of Ages, so perhaps Zora from the sea kingdom came and resettled in Hyrule after a period of absence. This would be consistent with all three timelines, since (peaceful) Zora are absent from Hyrule in A Link to the Past and later games in the Downfall Timeline, Four Swords Adventures (I think), and The Wind Waker. So it works no matter where you place Breath of the Wild.
@@jonahdunch4056 Yeah, in the first stone monument it talks about the origin of Zora's Domain: 'The rains have blessed Lanayru since ancient times with an abundance of pure, clean water. Seeking a bounty of such water, the Zora gathered there. Thus, as the legends go, the domain was born 10,000 years ago. The land was also rich in ore, and so a unique form of stonemasonry was developed to create our new home. The domain is one giant sculpture, a feat of architecture that has drawn admires the world over. Our great domain will ever stand as a hallmark of the esteemed artist who made it, an eternal symbol of Zora pride.' It doesn't really say what they were doing before, but it seems to imply that they came from elsewhere, since they were 'seeking a bounty of water'. But yeah, the Zora's history doesn't secure BotW on any particular timeline, although the monument with Ruto's legend does kind of rule out the Child Timeline.
@@nickcurrant2254 Yeah, the legend of Ruto does count against the Child Timeline, though I'm sure you could explain it away somehow--perhaps Ruto became the Water Sage anyway in order to seal Ganon in the Twilight Realm, or perhaps the legend of what happened in that other timeline was preserved because Link related the whole story to the royal family of Hyrule. Since other evidence counts in favour of the Child Timeline placement (e.g., the reference to "twilight" in Subdued Ceremony, the geography and society of Hyrule in general matching up more closely than the other timelines, and the TP-like Ganondorf corpse in BotW2 trailer), I guess what you're ok with explaining away depends on how you assess the balance of evidence. (My admittedly fanficcy headcanon is that it's the Child Timeline but weird timeline stuff bled into history during Hyrule Warriors.)
Great video! Thanks for covering this topic! And as for where else civilization could be found I think that there is a possibility of some sort of race that dwells completely underwater. There is lots of water inside and outside of Hyrule so who knows what there could be. Maybe a land even bigger than Hyrule.
It's been mentioned before by other channels, but Akkala Citadel was built to defend Hyrule from invasion so, given that, we can reasonably infer that there's some kind of civilization out that way, else there would have been no need to spend the massive amount of resources it would have taken to build such a large structure. As for whether or not any Hyrullians fled that way, I kind of doubt it for a few reasons. For one most would have hunkered down in the Citadel thinking it would be safe. For another, considering the reason for the Citadel's construction, the lands across that stretch of sea would likely have been hostile, or at least somewhat less than welcoming, to the Hylian people so not exactly the best place to flee going from one threat to another.
I’m guessing Link’s ability to teleport into the sky temple in BOTW (Sequel 2) could provide an opportunity to reach far off lands never visited before.
Spirit Tracks takes place in a new Hyrule, north of old hyrule if I remember correctly. It’s been a long time, but I remember other races like those snow people with antlers. It would be cool if the evolved / devolved versions appeared in another Zelda game, like if the map was bigger and you could go to what was new Hyrule in spirit tracks.
Video suggestions? I've got a couple I'd love to see you cover! 1) Ranking your favorite combat systems of the 3D Zelda games 2) Ranking the different iterations of Hyrule Castle 3) Ideas from yourself and the community on Zelda spin-off games that we'd love to see 4) Where you'd like to see the Zelda franchise go in the future Love your content! Always looking forward to the next video
@@HyruleGamer Oh wow, you actually went out of your way to find this. You know, this is why you're my favorite Zelda-tuber. You actively try and engage with fans as much as you can. It really makes me feel like a part of the community and it's nice to be seen
Thank you so much for this video! I've been hoping for a video like this for ages! I also think it is also possible that the sheikah (10,000 years ago) would have explored beyond Hyrule through technology such as Vah Medoh.
The cliffs to the north and east are actually a lot lower and easily climbable from the parts of Gerudo Desert we can't reach normally. In fact there's details of the cliffs that are unable to be seen normally that suggests it once was a massive saltwater river that pooled at the desert. Ergo those who fled to the desert could have took a detour and went north up into the mountains and the following wilderness. It's also actually possible to see all of these areas in game if you break out of the world barriers. I've got a video on my channel of me doing that in dolphin, but it can also be done on the switch/Wii U natively with the moon jump glitch along with another glitch. As for other lands, there's obviously life outside of Hyrule, we've seen it before with places like New Hyrule, Labyrnna, Holodrum, Northern Hyrule in Zelda 2, and Hytopia, but given how far into the future BOTW is, who knows how these places developed. The sheer timeframe would suggest that they should be much more technologically advance than Hyrule since they don't have to deal with Calamity Ganon/Ganon in general, but maybe they aren't for some reason. Plus plus, we actually don't know how far Hyrules borders extend 100 years prior to BOTW, so perhaps there were some small villages, under the authority of Hyrule out on the outskirt of the desert or on one of the far flung islands.
I actually glided over that giant canyon and reached the cliff was over the opposite side... But it has no collision and I went through it... It was so annoying but at least I saw what was beyond the wall (nothing interesting, just a weird texture wall you can't reach because of the winds). You just eventually lose your stamina and fall only to recover back where I started.
Between the massive spikes between the ocean and the chasm, and the constant sandstorms, I feel like something is trying to keep people in Hyrule. Or keep someone out
This is actually a really good theory, it’s like the theory that is humans are just in a lab experiment for some other beings(I don’t believe that we are in just giving an example lol)
This is unrelated, but it was a thought I just had. What if the loftwings devolved into the sky people in Twilight Princess? They are both heavily revered, and both seem to be at least loosely bird-like. Both live above Highrule. And when the loftwings disappeared, the sky people mysteriously appeared. Just a thought.
Looking at Hyrule from a geographic perspective, I always theorized that if it were to take place in our world on earth, it would have probably been in the High Middle Ages or the beginning of the Renaissance in Europe. Specifically Italy because it has a desert along with Mt. Vesuvius that’s pretty similar to Death Mountain. I never even really began imagining it probably takes place on a whole other planet, lmao
The problem with your theory is that Hyrule is a kingdom, whereas Italy is a republic, and looking at the types of government across Europe, we can see that there are only 7 kingdoms in Europe : Belgium, Denmark, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, and the UK ; and therefore, from the type of governance alone, Hyrule can only be located in either one of these 7 countries if it existed on Earth in the real world, most likely the UK for many different reasons.
I've always wondered what in the breath of the wild map is in the (former) country of Hyrule. The "central hyrule" area implies the whole map is, but in previous games the different races have, at various different times, been implied to have their own leadership structure and live completely separately culture-wise to Hyrule; in another country. Another question would be, if Hyrule is just a country (and it probably is), why is it always at the centre of world ending doom? Or at least implied to be. To non-zora cultures, Is Hyrule considered to be the holy land of the followers of Hylia, where the sacred relic of the goddesses - the tri-force - is in some way kept?
The answer to the second question is pretty straightforward. Hyrule is the land of the Goddess's chosen people and ruled by her own descendants, so that is an obvious holiness. And that also explains why it is always at the center of evil's attacks, as most evil in the series stems from Demise, who has a massive grudge against Hylia and her Hylians. Though this doesn't answer your first question it is almost alway best to assume that any open world game is actually shrunk down ten times in terms of landmass and settlements compared to lore.
It is worth mentioning. 1. Termina doesnt technically doesnt exist. 2. The Oracle series does give us two sister lands outside of hyrule; those being Labrynna and Holodrum.
Kinda leads me to believe that in the next open world Zelda, it'll possibly allow you to explore beyond Hyrule, we already got to explore the vast terrains it has to offer, even the sky and the underground, imagine if you could actually explore past the borders of Hyrule and into other kingdoms, imagine how cool that would be
I was in the Gerudo desert and the remote bombs literally bounced off an invisible force field at the boarders of the map. Even from the point you are standing the desert looks like it goes on for thousands of miles, possibly leading to the other side of the planet. If Hyrule is located on earth than this theory makes sense?
Since I was little, I've always speculated that Termina's Ikana region is adjacent to the Gerudo Desert. Perhaps while that's not exactly true, it's very possible that the Hebra Mountains continue westwards to be the mountains in the north of Termina.
We know for sure that once existed holodrum, labrynna and even hytopia... Unfortunately termina, lorule or koholint Island or twilight realm were separated dimension so they can't be a safe place where people would run for saving themselves
I remember having a dream where there were Ritos more directly based off of Native-American culture just past the great cliffs and in an area that had orange fall leaves and rivers, looking back now it definitely reminds me of the Rito from Windwaker but in a land that looks much like upstate New York. I think if BotW2 ever expands the map, I would love to see something like that for a new Rito tribe.
I wonder if Hyrule is the Australia of this world. People don't know what the fucks going on there, and there are monsters that can kill you at every corner. Like everytime Ganon comes back the rest of the world's like "Ah this shit again"
Nice ideas! I had an interesting idea that it would've been so much more interesting in Tears of the Kingdom if there had in-fact been refugees from the Calamity that returned in the years following BOTW, as part of the rebuilding process. Would've been an interesting way to introduce new characters--and socio-political dynamics, i.e. factions of Hyrulians who feel rights over the kingdom.
can you imagine being a neighbouring landmass to Hyrule tho...just watching them get absolutely pounded at random intervals by ganon. You wouldn't want to invade, that place is fckn cursed.
Isn't Hyrule also a democracy on its own ? After all, in the real world, most monarchies are also democracies in some form by being constitutional monarchies, and in fact, out of the 12 monarchies that exists in Europe, only one of them, Vatican City, is an absolute monarchy, the rest are constitutional monarchies, and even then, Vatican City is an odd case, as it's an elective monarchy ruled by a pope, unlike pretty much every other monarchy in the world, which are hereditary monarchies, and outside of Europe, out of the 31 monarchies that exists there, only 4 of them : Brunei, Eswatini, Oman, and Saudi Arabia ; are absolute monarchies, which means that out of the total 43 monarchies that exists in the whole entire world, only 5 of them are absolute monarchies, the remaining 38 are constitutional monarchies, and therefore, have some form of democracy in there, which means that, on average, only about 11% or 1/9 of monarchies are absolute monarchies, with the remaining about 89% or 8/9 being constitutional monarchies and are therefore somewhat democratic, and besides, Hyrule is based on the UK, a constitutional monarchy and therefore a democracy, which means that Hyrule is also a constitutional monarchy and therefore also a democracy.
Personaly I think it would be cool if there was a sort of tribe of lizofas out in the ocean because to me they always looked a bit moore advanced than the other monsters. They can also swim so the ones link encounters could be scouts or something.
In the game they mention at one point there was an attack by people who came in massive ships and attacked the lands, that is part of why the citadel was built
Probably the land of Labrynna and Holodrum, as well as possibly the underground Subrosia, if it's not a dimensional plane. I'd like to see Labrynna or Holodrum reintroduced down the road, that'd be really cool to see in the Wild-era world.
I did see a clip a while ago from the developers when asked by a reporter they stated that the kingdom of Hyrule is on earth, but I guess it would be an alternate timeline of earth or something.
I'm glad you mentioned Phantom Hourglass, because my hair brain theory with like no support behind it has been that BOTW Hyrule is the New Hyrule from that series to bridge that timeline into BOTW. I always thought that settlers could have come from the cliffs beside Lomei Labyrinth because the player can walk a bit on those cliffsides. It's the only place the player can get close to that area which always struck me as a little odd. That could have been the land bridge where people came from other civilizations to settle this Hyrule. Again, there's little support behind this theory. It was always more of me going, "Wouldn't that be cool?" But I don't feel as hair brain crazy now that you mentioned Phantom Hourglass here. Great video!
It's highly unlikely that BotW Hyrule is New Hyrule. The master sword and ganon were both left at the bottom of the ocean, and BotW Hyrule has almost the same geography as old Hyrule. There is also no mention of the spirit tracks (which are very important to New Hyrule), and the ruins of the temple of time and castle town from OoT are in BotW, which were also at the bottom of the sea (don't ask me how any amount of them survived the flood, or migrated south wards)
Hey, I just wanted to share something I noticed when rewatching the new Breath of the Wild 2 trailer: Right at the beginning, you can see malice in front of a black/red background. This doesn't seem like a cave, but rather like the sky. Could this be our first glimpse at a dark world?
Well theres likely the other continents seen in Zelda 2, which probably uncludes Holodrum, Labrynna possibly Hytopia (still dont consider that canon personally) but that would probably have been annexed into Hyrule at some point
I like to think that, that the random cliff to the north in akala in between skull lake and the tech lab that has nothing on it and that you can walk on, may or may not have been the 'bridge' to those cliffs in the north
I sometimes wonder about Termina. There are the theories that it's a death illusion that Link has when he dies in the hero's downfall time-line, but what if it isn't. Maybe it's another dimension reached by traveling to a specific place in the lost forest, or what if it's to the north, where the lost forest used to expand but the canyon has since caused a physical rift between Termina and Hyrule?
I wonder if the well known nations like Termina, Gamelon, Koridai, Labrynna, Holodrum and Hytopia are still connected to Hyrule, no matter what the time line is. Or maybe what’s beyond Hyrule’s Borders is where the Gorons, Zoras, Sheikahs, Ritos, Kokiris, Gerudos and Yetis originated from like an entire isle continent ruled by the Zoras or the mountain lands where the Gorons and Ritos used to own. Or maybe the various Kingdoms from the Mario Games are what lies beyond Hyrule’s borders.
Havent seen any community posts recently so im just gonna say this here😏 I thought a cool theory idea would be to see if there is anything more to how Auru saved Fyer's life(from twilight princess). I always wondered but never thought there was anything else to it. idk.
you could make a part 2 talking about Hytopia, as long as I remember Hytopia became a part of hyrule a while after triforce heroes, and they are in the north of hyrule (just like most of the map in zelda 2 that is above the death mountain), since the most north part of hyrule in Botw is the death mountain, maybe the lands that used to be hytopia are the lands on the other side of the canion that comes after the death mountain, maybe after 10000 years earthquakes made that huge canion separating the former hytopian lands from mainland hyrule, that would make a lot of sense since hyrule doesnt seem to be a very geologically stable place, maybe after the callamity the villages in the north restored the kingdom of hytopia, and also some hyruleans could have scaped to the north using boats (since the canion wouldnt let them get there by foot, and also even though the northern lands seem to be much higger than the sea level there must be a beach somewhere there) The unacessable desert area in botw could be the desert of doubt from FSA their inhabitants the Zuna tribe (in my opinion the most underated zelda race) could have wellcomed many refugees from hyrule (unless they were extinguished long before the calamity). Im still not sure if Labryna and holodrum are in the same world as hyrule or are in alternative universes like termina, but they seem to have a coast so in case they are in the same world as hyrule the hyrulean boats could get there
I played BOTW for about 200hrs, but avoided Lurelin village on purpose so I would have some content to play before the sequel dropped. I still haven't had time to get back into the game since then. I'll have to get back into the game and finally visit the Lurelins to wrap the game up soon.
Another video about the other countrys we know of (Labrynna, New Hyrule etc.) could bei interesting. Were are they located? What happend to them after the appearance in their games? Did they have any influence on botw Hyrule?
You should do a theory about things in parallel timelines. For example: can we extrapolate that Four Swords Adventures and Spirit Tracks happens roughly at the same time in different timelines? If so, could Vaati's seal be broken when Hyrule was flooded in the adult timeline? And what is going on in the New Hyrule land in the child timeline, since there is no hero to save them?
@@HyruleGamer I mean I already theorize that the Gorons from Termina migrated to Hyrule. Hints at this are in the mountain carving of the Gorons from MM.
@@ortherner The lore is it is an alternative Hyrule, but lore also says Majora's Mask made Termina as well as showing Termina existed prior and after MM with flashbacks and end game credits. I personally believe it is just another kingdom separate from Hyrule and like you said could possibly be across the ocean given the Lost Woods is rumored to have the mysterious power to Traverse people between words
@@HECTOR8HELL8 "but lore also says Majora's Mask made Termina" Not ingame lore, that was in Hyrule Encyclopedia, a book full of inconsistencies with stablished lore, so it doesn't count as canon.
I feel like Lynels could have a little Kingdom of their own. Its Just a theory, but i feel like theyre searching for Something or someone. Because they are in big Open places and they growl once in a while. On the other hand, their weapons are forged in the fire of death mountain...but there are no smiths in Botw. Sadly.
@@Batony_Z_Lodowki ahhh yes, you can get the Champions weapons back from those, right. I remember. But...i dont think Lynels would cooperate with Gorons...right? There must be a lynel Smith somewhere...in theory.
If this is the case, maybe it's either Labrynna and/or Holodrum beyond these borders. Labrynna in the Northeast and Holodrum in the Southwest of the map
Part 2 could be what type of life could be beyond the border. Like maybe the Anouki from spirit tracks (it would be nice to see more of this race tbh). I think they could have it where in botw 3 we could go to a new kingdom or something
Yep! We don't always get to see the other parts of the planet and it's denizens, and we probably won't for years to come sadly, but there's definitely more out there
My favorite is the fan made map that has all the fandom/game map regions designed into one converged overall map. So, making “Hyrule” one country in a whole world, but it was just one version of hyrule. So like it had the entire map of Elder Scrolls, Middle Earth, it may have included the world region from Diablo and maybe Dragon Age amongst them but I can’t remember
Is there life out there? Another Kingdom? Termina!? 🤣
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I think this needs a part 2 where you address thr possibilities of known kingdoms in other areas
Have you thought about the possibility that the zonai were a secret society comprised of all the races in Hyrule (like the white lotus in avatar the last Airbender) this would include the secret moblin and the resistance from TP but even if it’s not the zonai a secret society would make sense in the Zelda world
PS I love your videos your my favourite Zelda tuber
Koridai, Gamelon, and Tolemac.
@@GregStallion 🤣
People fleeing from the calamity
The world: *You can not go beyond this point
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I'm surprised you didn't mention the "exit" in north Akkala, the land bridge that separates the Akkala Sea from the chasm north of Death Mountain. That seems to be an obvious place to travel in and out of Hyrule and what I always assumed the Akkala Citadel was built to guard. I was a little sad after first discovering it that it just blocks you with an invisible wall. Had it been up to me I would have put a gated wall there (similar to Fort Hateno) with NPC guards that tell you they will not allow anyone to leave as they don't want the calamity to spread. My personal headcanon is that the surrounding kingdoms/countries quarantined Hyrule after the calamity.
I've tried to explore around there, but it freaks me out. There's just something about that location that makes me uneasy.
@@deen7530 what? are you six?
@@GeorgeZimmermen I know its just a game and it's irrational, but the combination of the wind blowing back towards the land, the open stretch leading towards the jagged rocks ahead, the endless ocean on one side and the deep pit on the other, and the cliffs looming overhead all just give me vibes that its not a place I want to be.
It's a natural feeling of danger. I feel the same way about it.
Yeah, I imagine none of the other countries want to touch Hyrule with a 20 foot pole
You should go over the population of each Zelda game
That’d be very interesting to see. I’d like to see how the population increases or decreases as the Zelda timeline progresses :)
Interesting idea. I'll note it down!
@@HyruleGamer in the note book it goes 😂
Yes please!
Oh god what a long vid
Plot twist: There are other lands and peoples, but they all have their own version of Ganon too.
Hyrule Refugees: Oh thank the Goddess Hylia! Finally we have escaped destruction and found a new land in which to make our home.
Other Peoples: Welcome, weary travelers! Surely you have endured much on your journey, but the gods have delivered you here. Rest and be at ease. Know that ours is a land of peace and prosperity. We are a center of trade, of art, and of technology. And yet...we live under the shadow of fear. For prophecy tells that a great evil will soon return to darken these lands. We call this darkness...Calamity Gary.
Hyrule Refugees: OH FOR #&@^!'S SAKE.
Plot twist: Calamity Gary isn't actually evil, he just has an unfortunate name
@@deen7530 he isnt evil hes just kinda a dick.
Grandson of Calamity Oak
The plot of spirit tracks in a nutshell lol
@@dylanstafford3414 PLSSSHHSGSHSGSHS NOT CALAMITY OAK
Remember, the kingdom of Hytopia, which takes place in triforce heroes, the 3DS title is located directly to the north of Hyrule.
Interesting 👀
I think hytopia =hyrule
@@jownatube no
Pretty sure that was absorbed by hyrule
Uhm, we know for a fact that there are other countries outside of Hyrule. Holodrum and Labrynna for example? Surely the entire world didn't just vanish. So no matter whether or not people managed to flee the kingdom, there are definitely other people, other civilizations out there.
Yes of course somewhere out there!
Although one could argue that holodrum, labrynna and other lands like hytopia were integrated into an expanded hyrule since there are places names that refer to those regions in botw
@@mrsylar91 But are those references canon or simply Easter eggs? I mean we also have references to Koholint island. Personally I think that those references are just non-canon Easter eggs for the player. If there were landmarks that are recognizable to be from those particular countries, it would be a different matter. But as far as I can tell, the general map of those countries simply doesn't fit anywhere into BotW's Hyrule.
(Sorry if nothing I just wrote makes sense. I'm sick and my brain is a bit mushy right now)
@@Tatokat yea it makes sense. Everything being in hyrule doesnt make sense, there has to be other kingdoms, towns, settlements, etc not affiliated with the thing that the giant scary demon monster wants to destroy
So when there's a blood moon, would those kingdoms see it too, but not experience the effects from it, so they would just be like "Why did the moon just start turning red every week or so?"?
I'm assuming Gannon's monsters don't extend past the kingdom of Hyrule.
Holodrum and Labrinna are shown to be other large kingdoms in past games, and have similar geography to Hyrule,. It is also confirmed that Zora and Gorons live in the two kingdoms too. I think there's a good chance that as each kingdom grew over time the borders of each stayed close, even if no one goes to Hyrule anymore. After all, no one stays near areas that can kill them, especially with monsters of all things.
Good points!
Wasn't Termina also a city state?
@@fancychipss I always thought that Termina was an alternate parallel reality like Lorule. Link found it through the lost woods from a teleport spot(like the ones that bring you to Zoras domain and Goron city) and that's why the people are doubles of the ones in Hyrule.
Don't forget Koridai and Gamelon, two very relevant islands from two very relevant CDI games which would almost certainly exist in this iteration of Zelda.
If you go to the western peak of Mt. Drena when the skies are clear, you can look across the chasm from the North Lomei Labyrinth, you can see another square labyrinth!
I have tried pointing this out in the comments of several Zelda Tuber videos, but no one ever seems to see it or care, yet I haven't seen anyone talk about it?!
You could make a video about it
That other one is likely the labyrinth island
I actually went there by going out of bounds, and it turns out it's actually a giant shadow. For some reason the devs just stuck a big shadow of one of the Labyrinths out of bounds, maybe to test something.
I noticed it too.
@@ThornyFox that's cool, thanks for the info. I still want to believe... 😁
Nothing bothers me more than being able to see further then I can reach. I've always been wondering what lies beyond the invisible walls of Hyrule
same!
i know im a bit late to this, but its actually possible to get past the world borders! If you don't mind using glitches, there is a way you can clip through the borders and explore beyond, the map is said to be 3x as big as the main map, although there is nothing there of course. i've only explored just westward, but its really fascinating.
Labrinna and Holodrum could easily be within a few days' horse ride beyond the western or northern borders. Heck, even Termina, or somewhere similar, could be out there somewhere, miles and miles away from the destroyed Hyrule.
I think that Labrynna and/or Holodrum are across the ocean, since Link in Link’s Awakening was journeying from there when his ship was struck by lightning. (If I remember correctly.)
True true!
@@ryeofthebeholder that’s correct
I love the possibility but termina is another dimension thats supposedly reached through the lost woods. Which makes it infinitely more cool if thats what happened.
@@jasonwoodruff189 that's why I said "or somewhere similar"
In Zelda 2 you can venture FAR beyond the borders of Hyrule! Granted, being the downfall timeline, there’s not much out there but scattered villages.
True...
That's still Hyrule! And one of the more populated games
@@johnprieto435 Right, the 1st game only took place in a small part of hyrule where noone lived but a few hermits, that's why there where no villages. In other games it is not only mentioned that Link left to other lands (such as the opening of Link's awakening) but I also beleive a few mention he (that incarnation) came to Hyrule from another land. So like with the fishing village mentioned we do know there are lands out there...it is just that Nintendo doesn't seam to really care at all what they are...
Yeah but the zonai
I was going to comment this. Someone beat me to it, I'm glad. I actually found this out by viewing Region Break on Shesez's channel. I still want to play Zelda 2, maybe tomorrow.
While playing the Oracle games, I always envisioned the lands of Holodrum, Labrynna, and an unknown kingdom, existing in a geographical triangle, akin to the Triforce, with Hyrule at its center. With the Oracles representing each of the three Goddesses, it would make sense if their respective kingdoms were laid out in the same configuration as the Power, Wisdom, and Courage pieces of the Triforce
Oh cool
excellent theory
although, I worry some might think of this as tetraforce "evidence".
If there are civilizations away from hyrule, i wonder why they haven’t sent any support to hyrule after the calamity.
They have to know about the news and now things have calmed down. So why not send military help or just resources.
Maybe the neighboring kingdoms want to use the calamity as a way to weaken Hyrule as it’s the most powerful kingdom.
I would expect that there simply isn't enough reason to trade with Hyrule, in its current dark age. If I had to guess, Hyrule just doesn't produce enough surplus trade goods to even begin a supply train, let alone the infrastructure to maintain regular commerce beyond its borders.
That's just me spit-balling, but even other traders who arrive from outside would probably find Hyrule with little to offer in return for the effort.
With all of reoccurring Ganon cycle, Hyrule's neighbors probably thought "Nah, they'll be fine. They do this thing all the time, why should we get into this eternal mess?"
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Could be many reasons imo
Could be that the Calamity event didn't just effect Hyrule. For all we know, the monster presence is just as bad surrounding Hyrule as it is in Hyrule proper. Sure, Ganon's powers probably get less potent the further out you go, but there's no reason to think it conforms to Hyrule's boarders. It's not like Calamity Ganon picked up a map and was like "well, these are the boarders, so we really gotta make sure the corrupts guardians and my monster hoard don't cross it, that would totally ruin our geopolitical goals."
This was my question for the longest time. Do they know about Calamity Ganon? What is the lore that they know? Do the Sheikah perhaps communicate with them? Is the outside more or less advanced? What is the population of the planet? Has anyone decided to make the trek to map it?
I think it's possible the giant canyon is evidence of Hyrule being its own continent plate, like India, slowly moving away from the mainland and comparing the maps of each game kinda shows that in skyward sword, Hyrule is completely landlocked but by BoTW there is a giant canyon on one side and a full on Ocean on the other
My first thoughts were I thought one of the Guardian Dragons carved out that canyon to ensure that the Calamity does not spread outside the boarders of the Hyrule Kingdom. or possibly a bunch of soldiers bombed the shit out of that part of the land to create a trench for the purpose to keep the Calamity in or to keep invaders out?
If I'm not mistaken maybe some of the refugees from the calamity fled to the surounding counties such as Holodrum Labryna and maybe even Termina if they were able to make it through the lost woods.
Perhaps!
Termina is an alternate dimension created by Skull Kid/Majora that stopped existing when Link left.
Imagine a Zelda game sort of like Super Mario Odyssey where you go around the entire world exploring new lands.
I'm just imagining the people of Hytopia sitting in their fancy dresses eating popcorn as they watch Hyrule fall the calamity
The Twilight Princess music in the intro was so nostalgic and brought me back so hard I completely missed everything you said after that for about a solid minute
If the Hyrule we see in BotW was inspired by the Hyrule from the first Zelda, to the north could be the even more vast portion of the Zelda 2 map.
MAYBE!
Well, we have already seen other kingdoms in the series, so as long as any one of them still exists somehow (which would be unbelievable for a gap of at least 10000 years, but Hyrule managed longer than that... somehow, despite multiple power vacuums) there would be civilization out there.
For refugees fleeing Hyrule I believe it's most likely to have happened by the coasts.
Yup true!
Majoras mask took place outside of Hyrule.
Just looking outside of the border from the main map honestly gives me an eerie vibe. And especially if you actually manage to glitch your way outside of it because it is completely empty. No living creatures no people to talk to not even any enemies. Same thing with clipping yourself out of bounds in Trial of the Sword.
Stal enemies spawn on the giant cliff
Imagine the possibilities to explore different cultures across the world. I imagine the reason there isn't really any travel in from the outside is because the rest of the world considers Hyrule cursed land/a lost cause. But with the Calamity gone, maybe we could see an influx. From the sea, from the distant plains, from over the mountains...maybe even an opportunistic invasion? Unlikely, but a cool thought nonetheless.
Interesting point made :0
Further, what if there are other more advanced civilizations in the gunpowder age or further that didn’t want to deal with the cataclysms Hyrule had, and with all their greed, had the inclination to colonize Hyrule, convert its population to their religion and destroy its culture? What if Gannondorf was acting as a buffer from all this because foreign powers found its riches alluring but found it too hostile because of Calamity and the monsters that infested the lands? Nintendo has yet to explore the idea of foreign powers in any Zelda timeline. Maybe they might use it for a future title? 🤔
Here after TOTK. Sidon's fiance is said to be a Zoran from another domain, so that must mean she came from a Zoran kingdom outside of Hyrule?
Ive always wonderd why youd want to move to hyrule like oh I hear that a place that is consistently inhabited my demons exists let me leave this safe kindom and move there
Makes you wonder. Imagine being completely clueless to Hyrule and Ganon comes along and destroys your world and you had no idea it was gonna happen.
Mini theory: everything outside the borders are other versions of Hyrule so that's why it looks different sometimes, or why monsters look different or don't exist. When Zelda link and Gannon die, they go to another Hyrule to let the one they were at recover
Interesting take!
That’s just confusing
I hope we get a Zelda Game where we explore the whole “Planet Hyrule”
That would be really cool!
The planet is actually called "Earth"
I always loved standing at the northern edge of Akkala and looking at the green hills on the other side of the cliff. What stories and mysteries could be found in that land?
See the light as it shines on the grass it calls meeeeeeeeeeee
Well, other than the land that would be known as New Hyrule, Labynna and Holodrum are out there as well as Hytopia. I'd imagine they're fairly close to one another.
I'm sure I've mentioned my theory before, about how the eastern coast of Breath of the Wild lines up rather well with the western mainland of Zelda 2, with the starting palace being the Zora domain in Breath of the Wild. This means that there could be some substantial landmasses out to the east. I could provide a link to my theory, if you like.
you have my attention.
We need a game where Hyrule gets invaded after the calamity due to it falling
That makes no logical sense, the Calamity Ganon IS the invasion of Hyrule along with the monsters that are possessed by the forces of Ganon's Malice. Any other country or unknown civilization wouldn't be dumb enough to attempt a full on invasion as they will most likely perish at the hands of the remaining Guardians or a gang of Moblins and the Malice pools itself. Plus we already have Age of Calamity that does exactly what you said.
And it does make some logical sense because say a rival Kingdom is waiting for Hyrule to get weekend by the calamity and or by some outside force they then could invade since hyrule is weak. And that comment was stating that they could invade sometime after Gannon is defeated. It’s not not stated directly but if you put just a bit of thought into it. It’s implied. But no you decided to shitpost on a old comment instead of read
@@MobiusTrigger7 Enemy forces that invade Hyrule is literally in every Zelda game as that's the nature of the games. If you don't like the way the concept presents itself than maybe Zelda games isn't in your taste. All I can say is Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity is a hack n slash game about stopping Ganon's invasion along with surprising plot twists as that's exactly what your implying you want in a game.
I love theories about kingdoms beyond the world border, i’m so happy you did one
Thank you :)
Dude I just realized a how good that intro is it’s so smooth and the way the wolf morphs into words that is just amazing
Missed opportunity to call the combined Necluda, Faron, Lanayru and Akkala seas "The Great Sea".
Everyone outside of hyrule is wondering why hylians ever wanted to live in a place that keeps having cataclysms
I know that everyone wants sky islands/flying hyrule castle/skyloft, loads of caves, and underwater exploration in BotW2 - and I do too. But I also REALLY want to see the BOTW map expand at least 1.5 or 2 times. I want to see the map extend in all four directions. Or, at the VERY least, I want to see the ocean extend massively eastward with a lot more islands as well as interesting ocean things to do. If they extended the desert, those "hills" could've instead been a huge "dunes land" maybe similar to White Sands National Park in New Mexico - it'd be really cool to have a place to go for lots of new shield surfing slopes but WITHOUT having to deal with the doom-n-gloom of Hebra's darkness and bad music. As for the west and the north, ANYTHING could be beyond them and i'd find it rad, but some things I would love to see is maybe a dark wasteland similar to Mordor (LotR) or the Wilderness (Runescape) and could be an optional area with SUPER HARD monsters and shrines/caves only. I'd also love to see a massive graveyard (similar to the one in the original Zelda) and/or a big ghosty land, like the Stone Tower region in Majoras Mask. I also would love to see a huge swampland, and not just the occasional tiny easily skipped marsh - similar to the one we saw in Majora's Mask or the massive swamp lands in LoTR. It'd also be cool to have a "Redwoods" type area with trees that are so tall/fat they're basically impossible to scale - perhaps with a "city in the sky" in the treetops!
Well, we know the Zora came into Hyrule from the sea, in BotW, before establishing Zora's Domain. They always set their capital on land, albeit connected to water, so they must have come from some other continent. As far as I'm aware, that is the only confirmed outside people to have contact (other than the unconfirmed people that the Citadel was built to repel), but I would suspect there used to be a more international trade when Hyrule was at it's height.
How do we know the Zora came to Hyrule from the sea?
@@jonahdunch4056 Good point. I think the lore only says they found their spot and gathered to create Zora's Domain ~10,000 years prior. I guess they could have come from any direction, since the tall, inaccessible landscape surrounding Hyrule could just be mostly figurative to the story, and there are still shorelines to travel along, or they could have always been in Hyrule and only then decided to build a nation.
I thought I remember some lore talking about them coming from the sea, but that could just be bad memory. It's a bit ambiguous, but I think the fact that Zora's Domain is basically near where it was in Ocarina of Time, and they talk about this new Domain as having a distinct origin, plus they remember Ruto and her legend--means there was some long period away from the land.
I could be wrong though--thanks for pointing that out. In any case, they do have a longstanding connection to the land, which would be in-line with them already being there as well. Maybe Calamity whomped them 20,000 years prior, and they forgot a lot of history after having their domain destroyed.
@@nickcurrant2254 Is this info from the Zora Stone Monuments (or whatever they're called)? I just don't remember where their origin is discussed.
If it is said that they come from elsewhere, it's plausible that they came from the sea. We know that Zora lived in the sea by Labrynna even in the distant past of Oracle of Ages, so perhaps Zora from the sea kingdom came and resettled in Hyrule after a period of absence. This would be consistent with all three timelines, since (peaceful) Zora are absent from Hyrule in A Link to the Past and later games in the Downfall Timeline, Four Swords Adventures (I think), and The Wind Waker. So it works no matter where you place Breath of the Wild.
@@jonahdunch4056 Yeah, in the first stone monument it talks about the origin of Zora's Domain:
'The rains have blessed Lanayru since ancient times with an abundance of pure, clean water. Seeking a bounty of such water, the Zora gathered there. Thus, as the legends go, the domain was born 10,000 years ago. The land was also rich in ore, and so a unique form of stonemasonry was developed to create our new home. The domain is one giant sculpture, a feat of architecture that has drawn admires the world over. Our great domain will ever stand as a hallmark of the esteemed artist who made it, an eternal symbol of Zora pride.'
It doesn't really say what they were doing before, but it seems to imply that they came from elsewhere, since they were 'seeking a bounty of water'. But yeah, the Zora's history doesn't secure BotW on any particular timeline, although the monument with Ruto's legend does kind of rule out the Child Timeline.
@@nickcurrant2254 Yeah, the legend of Ruto does count against the Child Timeline, though I'm sure you could explain it away somehow--perhaps Ruto became the Water Sage anyway in order to seal Ganon in the Twilight Realm, or perhaps the legend of what happened in that other timeline was preserved because Link related the whole story to the royal family of Hyrule. Since other evidence counts in favour of the Child Timeline placement (e.g., the reference to "twilight" in Subdued Ceremony, the geography and society of Hyrule in general matching up more closely than the other timelines, and the TP-like Ganondorf corpse in BotW2 trailer), I guess what you're ok with explaining away depends on how you assess the balance of evidence. (My admittedly fanficcy headcanon is that it's the Child Timeline but weird timeline stuff bled into history during Hyrule Warriors.)
The grassy plains across the Deplian badlands (north-east Hyrule) look so beautiful.
Good one I have thought always about what is beyond Hyrule since I was a kid when Ocarina of Time first came out same with Termina in Majora's Mask.
Great video! Thanks for covering this topic! And as for where else civilization could be found I think that there is a possibility of some sort of race that dwells completely underwater. There is lots of water inside and outside of Hyrule so who knows what there could be. Maybe a land even bigger than Hyrule.
Very true!
It's been mentioned before by other channels, but Akkala Citadel was built to defend Hyrule from invasion so, given that, we can reasonably infer that there's some kind of civilization out that way, else there would have been no need to spend the massive amount of resources it would have taken to build such a large structure. As for whether or not any Hyrullians fled that way, I kind of doubt it for a few reasons. For one most would have hunkered down in the Citadel thinking it would be safe. For another, considering the reason for the Citadel's construction, the lands across that stretch of sea would likely have been hostile, or at least somewhat less than welcoming, to the Hylian people so not exactly the best place to flee going from one threat to another.
That could have meant pirates? Maybe they longer exist OR maybe they do!?
I’m guessing Link’s ability to teleport into the sky temple in BOTW (Sequel 2) could provide an opportunity to reach far off lands never visited before.
I like how your intro has evolved. It looks and sounds good, and helps the atmosphere for your videos.
Thanks :)
Spirit Tracks takes place in a new Hyrule, north of old hyrule if I remember correctly. It’s been a long time, but I remember other races like those snow people with antlers. It would be cool if the evolved / devolved versions appeared in another Zelda game, like if the map was bigger and you could go to what was new Hyrule in spirit tracks.
Video suggestions? I've got a couple I'd love to see you cover!
1) Ranking your favorite combat systems of the 3D Zelda games
2) Ranking the different iterations of Hyrule Castle
3) Ideas from yourself and the community on Zelda spin-off games that we'd love to see
4) Where you'd like to see the Zelda franchise go in the future
Love your content! Always looking forward to the next video
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@@HyruleGamer Oh wow, you actually went out of your way to find this. You know, this is why you're my favorite Zelda-tuber. You actively try and engage with fans as much as you can. It really makes me feel like a part of the community and it's nice to be seen
Thank you so much for this video! I've been hoping for a video like this for ages!
I also think it is also possible that the sheikah (10,000 years ago) would have explored beyond Hyrule through technology such as Vah Medoh.
yea
The cliffs to the north and east are actually a lot lower and easily climbable from the parts of Gerudo Desert we can't reach normally. In fact there's details of the cliffs that are unable to be seen normally that suggests it once was a massive saltwater river that pooled at the desert. Ergo those who fled to the desert could have took a detour and went north up into the mountains and the following wilderness. It's also actually possible to see all of these areas in game if you break out of the world barriers. I've got a video on my channel of me doing that in dolphin, but it can also be done on the switch/Wii U natively with the moon jump glitch along with another glitch.
As for other lands, there's obviously life outside of Hyrule, we've seen it before with places like New Hyrule, Labyrnna, Holodrum, Northern Hyrule in Zelda 2, and Hytopia, but given how far into the future BOTW is, who knows how these places developed. The sheer timeframe would suggest that they should be much more technologically advance than Hyrule since they don't have to deal with Calamity Ganon/Ganon in general, but maybe they aren't for some reason. Plus plus, we actually don't know how far Hyrules borders extend 100 years prior to BOTW, so perhaps there were some small villages, under the authority of Hyrule out on the outskirt of the desert or on one of the far flung islands.
Oh wow, a lot of feedback! Thanks :D
@@HyruleGamer don't mention it. I get carried away when it comes to Zelda theorizing.
I actually glided over that giant canyon and reached the cliff was over the opposite side... But it has no collision and I went through it... It was so annoying but at least I saw what was beyond the wall (nothing interesting, just a weird texture wall you can't reach because of the winds). You just eventually lose your stamina and fall only to recover back where I started.
Between the massive spikes between the ocean and the chasm, and the constant sandstorms, I feel like something is trying to keep people in Hyrule. Or keep someone out
This is actually a really good theory, it’s like the theory that is humans are just in a lab experiment for some other beings(I don’t believe that we are in just giving an example lol)
This is unrelated, but it was a thought I just had. What if the loftwings devolved into the sky people in Twilight Princess? They are both heavily revered, and both seem to be at least loosely bird-like. Both live above Highrule. And when the loftwings disappeared, the sky people mysteriously appeared. Just a thought.
Looking at Hyrule from a geographic perspective, I always theorized that if it were to take place in our world on earth, it would have probably been in the High Middle Ages or the beginning of the Renaissance in Europe. Specifically Italy because it has a desert along with Mt. Vesuvius that’s pretty similar to Death Mountain. I never even really began imagining it probably takes place on a whole other planet, lmao
The problem with your theory is that Hyrule is a kingdom, whereas Italy is a republic, and looking at the types of government across Europe, we can see that there are only 7 kingdoms in Europe : Belgium, Denmark, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, and the UK ; and therefore, from the type of governance alone, Hyrule can only be located in either one of these 7 countries if it existed on Earth in the real world, most likely the UK for many different reasons.
I've always wondered what in the breath of the wild map is in the (former) country of Hyrule. The "central hyrule" area implies the whole map is, but in previous games the different races have, at various different times, been implied to have their own leadership structure and live completely separately culture-wise to Hyrule; in another country. Another question would be, if Hyrule is just a country (and it probably is), why is it always at the centre of world ending doom? Or at least implied to be. To non-zora cultures, Is Hyrule considered to be the holy land of the followers of Hylia, where the sacred relic of the goddesses - the tri-force - is in some way kept?
The answer to the second question is pretty straightforward. Hyrule is the land of the Goddess's chosen people and ruled by her own descendants, so that is an obvious holiness. And that also explains why it is always at the center of evil's attacks, as most evil in the series stems from Demise, who has a massive grudge against Hylia and her Hylians.
Though this doesn't answer your first question it is almost alway best to assume that any open world game is actually shrunk down ten times in terms of landmass and settlements compared to lore.
It is worth mentioning. 1. Termina doesnt technically doesnt exist. 2. The Oracle series does give us two sister lands outside of hyrule; those being Labrynna and Holodrum.
6:28 "Now for the area most intriguing to me"
I was fully expecting you to say "The moon."
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Kinda leads me to believe that in the next open world Zelda, it'll possibly allow you to explore beyond Hyrule, we already got to explore the vast terrains it has to offer, even the sky and the underground, imagine if you could actually explore past the borders of Hyrule and into other kingdoms, imagine how cool that would be
I was in the Gerudo desert and the remote bombs literally bounced off an invisible force field at the boarders of the map. Even from the point you are standing the desert looks like it goes on for thousands of miles, possibly leading to the other side of the planet. If Hyrule is located on earth than this theory makes sense?
Since I was little, I've always speculated that Termina's Ikana region is adjacent to the Gerudo Desert. Perhaps while that's not exactly true, it's very possible that the Hebra Mountains continue westwards to be the mountains in the north of Termina.
If BOTW is a culmination of all the timelines then New Hyrule should still exist in some way across the sea.
We know for sure that once existed holodrum, labrynna and even hytopia...
Unfortunately termina, lorule or koholint Island or twilight realm were separated dimension so they can't be a safe place where people would run for saving themselves
fun fact: the other Gate of time was never destroyed which means time travel into the past is possible still
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I remember having a dream where there were Ritos more directly based off of Native-American culture just past the great cliffs and in an area that had orange fall leaves and rivers, looking back now it definitely reminds me of the Rito from Windwaker but in a land that looks much like upstate New York. I think if BotW2 ever expands the map, I would love to see something like that for a new Rito tribe.
I wonder if Hyrule is the Australia of this world. People don't know what the fucks going on there, and there are monsters that can kill you at every corner.
Like everytime Ganon comes back the rest of the world's like "Ah this shit again"
Nice ideas! I had an interesting idea that it would've been so much more interesting in Tears of the Kingdom if there had in-fact been refugees from the Calamity that returned in the years following BOTW, as part of the rebuilding process. Would've been an interesting way to introduce new characters--and socio-political dynamics, i.e. factions of Hyrulians who feel rights over the kingdom.
can you imagine being a neighbouring landmass to Hyrule tho...just watching them get absolutely pounded at random intervals by ganon. You wouldn't want to invade, that place is fckn cursed.
I like to believe so. Hyrule can’t be the only kingdom in the Legend of Zelda. There has to be other countries, monarchies, DEMOCRACIES!!! out there.
Isn't Hyrule also a democracy on its own ?
After all, in the real world, most monarchies are also democracies in some form by being constitutional monarchies, and in fact, out of the 12 monarchies that exists in Europe, only one of them, Vatican City, is an absolute monarchy, the rest are constitutional monarchies, and even then, Vatican City is an odd case, as it's an elective monarchy ruled by a pope, unlike pretty much every other monarchy in the world, which are hereditary monarchies, and outside of Europe, out of the 31 monarchies that exists there, only 4 of them : Brunei, Eswatini, Oman, and Saudi Arabia ; are absolute monarchies, which means that out of the total 43 monarchies that exists in the whole entire world, only 5 of them are absolute monarchies, the remaining 38 are constitutional monarchies, and therefore, have some form of democracy in there, which means that, on average, only about 11% or 1/9 of monarchies are absolute monarchies, with the remaining about 89% or 8/9 being constitutional monarchies and are therefore somewhat democratic, and besides, Hyrule is based on the UK, a constitutional monarchy and therefore a democracy, which means that Hyrule is also a constitutional monarchy and therefore also a democracy.
Personaly I think it would be cool if there was a sort of tribe of lizofas out in the ocean because to me they always looked a bit moore advanced than the other monsters. They can also swim so the ones link encounters could be scouts or something.
ACROSS THE SEA IS THE AREA OF THE WIND WAKER
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In the game they mention at one point there was an attack by people who came in massive ships and attacked the lands, that is part of why the citadel was built
I always wished one day we would get a Zelda game where we could travel to other kingdoms, or even past ones like Holodrum, Labrynna, Hitopia.
It’s called a link between worlds
Here's something I always wondered. What is the name of the planet itself Hyrule Kingdom resides on?
Earth, I would assume.
Probably the land of Labrynna and Holodrum, as well as possibly the underground Subrosia, if it's not a dimensional plane. I'd like to see Labrynna or Holodrum reintroduced down the road, that'd be really cool to see in the Wild-era world.
I like to believe there is a civilization of Anouki somewhere beyond the northern Hebra boarders.
I did see a clip a while ago from the developers when asked by a reporter they stated that the kingdom of Hyrule is on earth, but I guess it would be an alternate timeline of earth or something.
Yeah for sure
I'm glad you mentioned Phantom Hourglass, because my hair brain theory with like no support behind it has been that BOTW Hyrule is the New Hyrule from that series to bridge that timeline into BOTW. I always thought that settlers could have come from the cliffs beside Lomei Labyrinth because the player can walk a bit on those cliffsides. It's the only place the player can get close to that area which always struck me as a little odd. That could have been the land bridge where people came from other civilizations to settle this Hyrule. Again, there's little support behind this theory. It was always more of me going, "Wouldn't that be cool?" But I don't feel as hair brain crazy now that you mentioned Phantom Hourglass here. Great video!
It's highly unlikely that BotW Hyrule is New Hyrule. The master sword and ganon were both left at the bottom of the ocean, and BotW Hyrule has almost the same geography as old Hyrule. There is also no mention of the spirit tracks (which are very important to New Hyrule), and the ruins of the temple of time and castle town from OoT are in BotW, which were also at the bottom of the sea (don't ask me how any amount of them survived the flood, or migrated south wards)
@@arcticdino1650 Like I said, not based on anything other than "Hey, that would be kind of neat!" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i always thought that hyrule was like pangaea where it was once a huge piece of land that floated in an even more massive body of water
That could be the case, who knows
Hey, I just wanted to share something I noticed when rewatching the new Breath of the Wild 2 trailer:
Right at the beginning, you can see malice in front of a black/red background. This doesn't seem like a cave, but rather like the sky.
Could this be our first glimpse at a dark world?
Who knows, maybe!
LBW was my first Zelda game (the start of a long, arduous downward spiral lol), I'd love to see the dark world expanded upon!
Well theres likely the other continents seen in Zelda 2, which probably uncludes Holodrum, Labrynna possibly Hytopia (still dont consider that canon personally) but that would probably have been annexed into Hyrule at some point
I like to think that, that the random cliff to the north in akala in between skull lake and the tech lab that has nothing on it and that you can walk on, may or may not have been the 'bridge' to those cliffs in the north
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I don't think it is crazy to think that Termina is still out there.
I sometimes wonder about Termina. There are the theories that it's a death illusion that Link has when he dies in the hero's downfall time-line, but what if it isn't. Maybe it's another dimension reached by traveling to a specific place in the lost forest, or what if it's to the north, where the lost forest used to expand but the canyon has since caused a physical rift between Termina and Hyrule?
I wonder if the well known nations like Termina, Gamelon, Koridai, Labrynna, Holodrum and Hytopia are still connected to Hyrule, no matter what the time line is. Or maybe what’s beyond Hyrule’s Borders is where the Gorons, Zoras, Sheikahs, Ritos, Kokiris, Gerudos and Yetis originated from like an entire isle continent ruled by the Zoras or the mountain lands where the Gorons and Ritos used to own. Or maybe the various Kingdoms from the Mario Games are what lies beyond Hyrule’s borders.
I don't remember where I read it/heard about it, but I heard the purpose of Akkala Citadel was to defend against invasions from oversea.
Havent seen any community posts recently so im just gonna say this here😏
I thought a cool theory idea would be to see if there is anything more to how Auru saved Fyer's life(from twilight princess). I always wondered but never thought there was anything else to it. idk.
*Cliffs section*
"It's life, Jim, but not as we know it"
Those huge cliffs northwest of Hyrule are the forbidden lands from Shadow of the Colossus and you can’t convince me other wise.
you could make a part 2 talking about Hytopia, as long as I remember Hytopia became a part of hyrule a while after triforce heroes, and they are in the north of hyrule (just like most of the map in zelda 2 that is above the death mountain), since the most north part of hyrule in Botw is the death mountain, maybe the lands that used to be hytopia are the lands on the other side of the canion that comes after the death mountain, maybe after 10000 years earthquakes made that huge canion separating the former hytopian lands from mainland hyrule, that would make a lot of sense since hyrule doesnt seem to be a very geologically stable place, maybe after the callamity the villages in the north restored the kingdom of hytopia, and also some hyruleans could have scaped to the north using boats (since the canion wouldnt let them get there by foot, and also even though the northern lands seem to be much higger than the sea level there must be a beach somewhere there)
The unacessable desert area in botw could be the desert of doubt from FSA their inhabitants the Zuna tribe (in my opinion the most underated zelda race) could have wellcomed many refugees from hyrule (unless they were extinguished long before the calamity).
Im still not sure if Labryna and holodrum are in the same world as hyrule or are in alternative universes like termina, but they seem to have a coast so in case they are in the same world as hyrule the hyrulean boats could get there
I invented a entire kingdom outside the limits of Hyrule!
I played BOTW for about 200hrs, but avoided Lurelin village on purpose so I would have some content to play before the sequel dropped. I still haven't had time to get back into the game since then. I'll have to get back into the game and finally visit the Lurelins to wrap the game up soon.
Zelda 2 and many other of the Zelda games show us there is plenty of life and other kingdoms outside of Hyrule.
Another video about the other countrys we know of (Labrynna, New Hyrule etc.) could bei interesting. Were are they located? What happend to them after the appearance in their games? Did they have any influence on botw Hyrule?
PLOT TWIST! All Deserted Island Getaways are out there and Tom Nook is in cahoots with Calamity Ganon.😱😆
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You should do a theory about things in parallel timelines. For example: can we extrapolate that Four Swords Adventures and Spirit Tracks happens roughly at the same time in different timelines? If so, could Vaati's seal be broken when Hyrule was flooded in the adult timeline? And what is going on in the New Hyrule land in the child timeline, since there is no hero to save them?
I still believe Termina is out there on the other side of the cliffs, at least the dead Ikana Kingdom.
Interesting...
@@HyruleGamer I mean I already theorize that the Gorons from Termina migrated to Hyrule. Hints at this are in the mountain carving of the Gorons from MM.
i think termina is in another continent entirely, or maybe a alternate universe?
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The lore is it is an alternative Hyrule, but lore also says Majora's Mask made Termina as well as showing Termina existed prior and after MM with flashbacks and end game credits. I personally believe it is just another kingdom separate from Hyrule and like you said could possibly be across the ocean given the Lost Woods is rumored to have the mysterious power to Traverse people between words
@@HECTOR8HELL8 "but lore also says Majora's Mask made Termina"
Not ingame lore, that was in Hyrule Encyclopedia, a book full of inconsistencies with stablished lore, so it doesn't count as canon.
I feel like Lynels could have a little Kingdom of their own. Its Just a theory, but i feel like theyre searching for Something or someone. Because they are in big Open places and they growl once in a while. On the other hand, their weapons are forged in the fire of death mountain...but there are no smiths in Botw. Sadly.
Do you mean Lynel smiths or smiths on Death Mountain because there is a Goron smith that is said to continiue the old tradition of making weapons
@@Batony_Z_Lodowki ahhh yes, you can get the Champions weapons back from those, right. I remember. But...i dont think Lynels would cooperate with Gorons...right? There must be a lynel Smith somewhere...in theory.
If this is the case, maybe it's either Labrynna and/or Holodrum beyond these borders. Labrynna in the Northeast and Holodrum in the Southwest of the map
Part 2 could be what type of life could be beyond the border. Like maybe the Anouki from spirit tracks (it would be nice to see more of this race tbh).
I think they could have it where in botw 3 we could go to a new kingdom or something
Pro tip: If you get to 10,000 hours on your game file, Moana arrives in Lurelin Village.
Yep! We don't always get to see the other parts of the planet and it's denizens, and we probably won't for years to come sadly, but there's definitely more out there
Yup!
My favorite is the fan made map that has all the fandom/game map regions designed into one converged overall map. So, making “Hyrule” one country in a whole world, but it was just one version of hyrule. So like it had the entire map of Elder Scrolls, Middle Earth, it may have included the world region from Diablo and maybe Dragon Age amongst them but I can’t remember
Oh interesting. Where can I find that?
@@HyruleGamer I think I saw it shared in one of the many Zelda Facebook fan groups, but if I find it again maybe I can tweet you 😃