This electric outboard will beat your gas outboard, and here's why!
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I know not the right video but was wondering are you ever planning on running scuppers like some other boats do? I’m building my sub floor and want to be designed to not hold any water I was thinking of a combo between the two to really make the boat unsinkable
Very informative information on electronic outboards
Major bonus of an electric motor is on small lakes that do not allow gas motors.
Have you heard anymore info about Mercury electric outboards? Seen a few sneak peeks, but not much info.
What avg run time with that setup
Idk. If you go any distance at all offshore, say 10km, the battery just can’t make it and it gets bulky with larger batteries. I tried to like them but I finally settled on a 5HP propane tohatsu
I've pushed a 36' catamaran over 20 miles with the dinghy and outboard. Let's see you do that with an electric
I agree the same as true for lawn care equipment. It's when you start moving up into bigger things like cars or bigger boats that it currently just doesn't make any sense As the costes prohibitive. I guess the only downside is still You can't refill a battery fast. But as long as you don't Don't need to be able to do that till you're back home then it's not a problem
By the way when I was in the military back on the 80s part of my job was maintaining batteries they've come a long long long way
Are you supposed to keep electricity away from water
I love those ePropulsion Systems!
I don't. Can't load up on batteries.
@@pain_weaver wel I’m a bit irritated that Yamaha stopped producing some of the replacement seals for my fairly new 2.5hp Yamaha 4 stroke. I got one of the last seals in the country and dealer said they weren’t available for reordering. So electric motors are simpler in design and less moving parts to fail. For that I like them ALOT! Also no foul carb issues.
@@KayakDIY that's a bummer for the seals. I bet the market wasn't good enough in US so they pulled most of the low end hp products (or stopped shipping them here).
As far as the carbs.... premium only baby. Ethanol is a pain in the @zz. Gums up everything and doesn't have the same energy as gas.
E 85 is cheap... but your milage on a vehicle goes way down due to there not being the same energy per gallon.
I would love to try out a electric outboard but it's just too expensive for me maybe one day I'll be blessed to own one
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Hello what kind of kayak was that you were using in the being of this video please. Looking for a good kayak.
Looked like a brand called Johnny boat
It was a Jonny boat
@@TinyBoatNation how do you like it. I’m thinking about getting one.
Maltreatment is the problem.
Other than a jhonsered 6hp that was at least 15 years old when i got it, Ive never had a problem with my motors starting.
I should add, you will also get electrical degredation on electric motors. And you have to change the batteries, especially on performance orientes batteries.
Its not an ev car driven on dry land in good conditions, its an outboard motor in water. Often salt water.
I hope the new mercury avator takes advantage on the mass production to bring cost down and become a real alternative
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Iam thinking about buying a kayak hobie pro angler 14’ ft not the 360 I see a 6hp electric motor is that way too much power on that hobie or should I buy the 3hp electric ⚡️ motor I want something to move plus I getting a live scope on it too and a trolling motor I like to put a 3hp gas motor on it
Well
6hp is a log for a kayak and you won't gain much .ore speed.
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Just out of curiosity, I picked up an older lund ls 14 dlx for dirt cheap, it has a lot of carpet covered plywood flooring. I tried a merc 9.9hp 2 stroke, and it plowed and couldn't hit plane, it managed 10 - 11 mph, obviously it didn't reach plane. I tried an older 2 stroke evinrude 15 hp, it wouldn't plane either, it would reach 14 ish mph. I am almost afraid to buy another motor because my wife will probably kill me if I don't get the motor right this time. It says it is rated for an 18 hp but I am scared that a 25 might not push along satisfactory. Anyone have anvil suggestions.
Thanks Brian
20hp Gen 4 merc
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I'm a believer in buy once cry once when it comes to gear and tools. I saved up my pennies and nickels for the Spirit 1.0 but since Mercury announced the Avatar I would love to see a spec comparison before I pull the trigger. What is your thoughts? Do you see yourself selling the Spirit 1.0 for a Mercury Avatar?
Idk, would have to check them out.
That 2.5 needs a new carb bad, once you leave them sit over 2 weeks without draining the carb it also allows the fuel system to un-prime, same occurs when transporting. It can be difficult to smart these built in tank systems, if you had used a external tank with a primer bulb it would have a much easier time priming.
Maybe just some seafoam
Electric is where it's at. EPropulsion is cool, but pricey. I'm planning to DIY a few e-outboards soon. On the upper end of Level 1, you do need to invest in batteries, but people will recognize eventually that you can buy one big 48V battery and re-use it on every motor for the next twenty years. The trouble with upper Level 1 is... most manufacturers are trying to lock you into THEIR batteries with proprietary connectors, which is silly. Batteries are the most pricey part by far, even though they're all commoditized components under the hood. They should be built 100% interoperable.
Yep its scummy for them to lock you into their only battery option. I'm sure that's a big factor why these things don't take off sale wise. People would rather get a transom mount trolling motor and have as many batteries as they want for much lower cost than these traps are. I do belive they make a 24 volt transom mount trolling motor. Would blow these 2 electrics out of the water speed wise. Probably even energy use wise too.
@@pain_weaver Minn Kota actually has some 36V options now, but every quality brand is crazy expensive. The EPropulsion battery is waterproof and it floats. Cool trick, but you can DIY 2X capacity for 1/2 the price. They want us to pay for bells and whistles right now, and a lot of people will do it simply because there's not a lot of examples of DIY electric propulsion yet. Kinda why I wanna get my hands dirty with it.
Can you do a gas outboard vs electric comparison?
Newport vessels is releasing an electric outboard soon, could you do a review on that?
It’s garbage. Don’t get it.
Why is it garbage
No, it's only 3x's more expensive. That 2/3's more than most DIY folks can afford.
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Not 1, nor 2 , but 3 companies have now solved the Solid State Lithium Battery problem and claiming they may be available in three years, but not more than 5 years. Yea they still have to build the manufacturing factories for them. One of them found a way to not even use an anode in their batteries. This is the real game changer for both cars and outbaords alike. It would allow for even larger horsepower rated outboards to be produced with three times the range, lightning fast charging, and very long living batteries. Also, I'm surprised you folks have not built a boat with the EPropulsion Navy 6.0. Peace..
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Just slowing waiting for the Mercury Eletric Motor to release and pay 2 toes and 1000 bucks for it.
Hmmm, I don't know if they're starting to win, but I think they're becoming increasingly more popular. Personally, I wouldn't buy one, for the same reason I wouldn't buy a Tesla. It's not that I am opposed to them; they need to further the technology in a really significant way for me. I'd rather have a gas motor, but to each their own. I can imagine it is far more pleasing to have electric on a small boat though, LoL.
How did it lose to other motors in its class?
The only place the small gas still wins (I’m an electric guy) is “capacity”. You have unlimited distance with no downtime.
Many times the battery is enough for a regular trip, but I’ve found myself not hitting some areas due to distance.
Thats the biggest problem. I like being able to fill up and keep on exploring and can carry more cans of gas
I'd only get one if the local fishing was electric only.
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😀That was some real good No Nonsense BS! Thanks man you may have just saved me from investing in a money pit fuel driven motor!
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If you consider buying a brand new electric outboard versus a brand new gas outboard, dollar for dollar, I think the electric option is much more viable.
A good video would be to source two identical jon boats and mount one with an EPropulsion and one with a traditional 55lb thrust Minn Kota & lead acid battery. Get two drivers of about the same weight, and set them off from the same point, full speed, in a race to a predetermined destination. Pair them up and do a return trip race as well. Let the results should speak for themselves. Let the viewers decide if the extra cost of the electric outboard justifies the results. Of course the electric outboard will be faster, but just how much faster will it be? If you save 3-5 minutes over a one mile run, does that time savings warrant the extra $2000 cost? The viewers can then make up their mind.
What Nate’s phone # in Illinois. I live in Illinois. I have a small boat. That I would like some work done.
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Problem with electric motors is the cost of batteries. The motors are more expensive, but when you factor in batteries then its a lot more expensive. The good news is that with fuel prices being so high it will cause a massive shift towards electric in all industries so that benefits everyone.
You say big overtime. Buy once cry once.
Batteries are way to much i would never put a non gas motor on my boat
I tell you what, You and I need to put my 1957 3 hp Evinrude up against your electric 3 hp and see how well internal combustion technology from 1957 stands up to it; speed vs runtime.
You would lose
Hmm, let me think about. $700 all in for a 55lb TM, 100Ah battery, IP67 battery box, breaker, and misc connectors. You get 4-5MPH in a small craft, and the weight (18lbs TM and 28lb battery box) can be distributed. Or, this thing at 43lbs on the transom and 5-6MPH for $2600. Yeah, this is just a total nothing burger. BTW, the Zuke costs only $595, ~32lbs on the transom (with fuel and prop), and gets 20+ miles on $4/gallon rec.
Maintenance-free
No cold start issues
No carb issues
No altitude power drops
No gas or oil spills or Fowler plugs
No impeller worries
-> way more beneficial over time vs saving some money with gas.
Electric seems smart to me. < For small watercrafts.
This runs on a single one 12v? The benefit is the top speed over a trolling motor?
@@lolthekidison it is a trolling motor lol
@@lolthekidison electric has a very very long way to go before it's even worth it on small boats.
@@pain_weaver Hmm, I think that it is very close for small boats! Think of how far electric cars have come recently. I think it's just a lack of producers to push market down. I definitely agree it's not going to be soon on a larger scale
@@lolthekidison when they lock you into their power source it's a scummy move. I want 300AH at least of power availability.
There will have to be no gas, diesel, or alcohol left in this world before I use an electric motor
Unless you’re putting it on a kayak or something like your pond prowler, it just doesn’t make sense. The vast majority of even small boats require more horsepower than electric outboards can provide. Not to mention cost…most people watching your videos aren’t buying a brand new outboard, and used 5-20 hp outboards are very cheap and widely available. No hate, I’m a big fan, but I think it’s not realistic for 95% of people.
Lol...tell me your doing a infomercial without telling me your doing a infomercial...
Parts are easy to find for a two stroke and easy to repair.
That electric pile goes it's gone no fixing that one...if so not cheap...no thanks...
Lolno?
Or just get a better outboard my Merc 6 horse cold starts two pulls
Not even close
I replaced my gasser a few months ago. While electric isn't taking over, for smaller boats, give me electric all day.
If you watched all that and still thought it wasn't even close then I don't know what to tell you.
Bull O Knee!
Haha
Gas outboards are gonna stay on my boats till I die....I hate dead batteries....and with trolling motor batteries and electronics batterys to get charged and maintained already I don't wanna deal with any more batterys.....woth a gas outboard and my 3 gallon tank I can run several hole days without dealing with my battery dieing in the middle of the lake....all the maitnence u speak of on outboards is very overated......run your carb dry when ur done fishing and u will never have carb issues..and replace oil of 4 stroke and lower oil unit oil every year if not ran a ton or recommended hrs if ran alot...and water pump impeller every few years and ushouldnt have an issue.....hell as far as water pumps I've bought antique outboards from the 40s and 59s that I can almost garentee still have there factory original water pump impeller and still pee water like bran new
I can see you don’t want to start the Suzuki outboard motor. Or you don’t know how . Or the electric motor company pay you. Be honest man. I had a lot of problems on American engine. I had good luck with all Japan engine. Yamaha Honda Suzuki is the best. Electric engine? Hell no
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