Your passion for the base Carrera really comes across. Interesting that a lot of respected motoring journalists likewise consider the base Carrera as the 'pick.' I also agree that the interior ergonomics, leather finishing, and stylish colour add to that special experience. Nice video, thank you.
Had my 2005 997.1 Carerra S for 7 years now, unopened engine, passing 112000 miles on the clock, OCI at 5000 miles, no problems at all, Fantastic cars, and the last true 911 in my opinion
Got my first 911 almost 2 years ago- 2006 (997.1) Carrera 2S manual transmission. It only had 14,000 miles and the price was high. Still, it's worth it. It has the best shape, size and sound. Even the tail lights look great. Thanks for the review.
Your speechlessness says it all…. This car is more than words can describe. I love the base 997.1. Would love to own one of these… and I may just take the plunge and get one while I still can.
As a 997.1 owner it’s great to see someone fighting the corner for the m96/m97 engined cars. I find the biggest difference between the two is the type of plastic used in the cabin and the suspension used. Gen2 has a different type of plastic used in the cabin which does not become as brittle over time. The gen one interiors can creak and rattle. The suspension only has two gyros to detect pasm too, the gen 2 has a third gyro as well as different spring rates. The character of my x51 3.8 is intoxicating
Thanks T I for watching and I am glad you are on the M96/97 side to the fence. You are right about the type of plastic used in the interior between the two generations. Interesting to hear about the two gyros vs three on the 997.2 and spring rating. Glad to hear that you love the X51 👍
Had a 997 C2 since 2020 and love it! Came from a 987. Great review. 2005 997 911 Speed Yellow 6sp manual Factory sport shifter and sport steering wheel PASM / Sport Chrono Plus Adaptive Sport Seats Full Leather in black 19" Sport Design Wheels Various other things like rain sensing wipers, rear wiper, Bi-Xenons, yellow seat belts and cluster and center console Vertex pressure fed IMS bearing fix
I love my 997 gen 1 carerra 4. It looks great with the wider rear, plenty of power and the manual gearbox is fantastic. Personally not a big fan of the new models.
Another great video! I’ve owned a fair few different models of Porsche and I agree there is something so special about the 997! I really love mine (bought at Invictus!)
As a gen 1 C2S owner I love the review, however, I will disagree on the gear box. The Miata and the s2000 both make everything else I have driven seam rubbery and vague. I have 89k miles on my 911 and it’s a wonderful car.
Totally agree with the gearbox is compared to something like the S2000, unfortunately I haven't driven the Miata so I can't comment. The S2000 was a dream to drive, everything about it was exception and driver's oriented :)
@@wildcarcollection I have been told it makes the gear shifting difficult, harder, more resistance? The miata gear box is EPIC tho. So snappy and precise.
Carrera 4, 4S, Turbo, and GT variants have the wide body (except the standard GT3, GT3 RS is also wide body). Carrera, Carrera S are narrow body. A lot of people believe the base Carrera is perfect. You have wring it out to get the joy out of it and that engagement is what everyone is looking for.
@@InvictusMotors I moved from a 996 to a 997. The thing I didn't like is that the 997 is not so pure, in terms of driving experience as the 996. You feel the car is faster, of course, but more filtered than the 996. Nevertheless, you can drive it as your daily (which I don't do) car.
You’re a sports car enthusiast. I agree. This car hits the sweet spot between power, weight, performance, technology, simplicity, luxury utility, and not a turbo. 👍🏻 It’s brilliant. No car can match it for overall driving enjoyment. Why can’t they make cars like this anymore?
@@InvictusMotors I have a C8, 2001 M roadster, 1989 560SL, motorcycles, but go thru a lot of cars. Had an R8v10, Alfa Romeo Giulia QV, RS3 over the years. My gf has a Mini Cooper. Love driving that. My next will be a Porsche 997.2 which is brilliant. Would like an M2 also. I dont prefer big, heavy, unwieldy cars to daily drive no matter how powerful. Cheers.
Such a good drivers review, can not disagree in any way as a driver who wants to be in charge of the driving experience, I'll work it out better than the electronic control of the later models 👏👍
To fix that slow crank, follow you pos batt cable to the junction to the left of the battery, pull out the red pin, wiggle off. Sand paper on the stud, little wire brush on the part that slips on the stud. Your welcome. Why they did this? Who knows.
I agree that the 997.1 has an awful lot going for it. It looks better than the 997.2 (due to the lights), and the engine sounds much better too. The base Carrera seems somewhat less prone to bore scoring than the 3.8S too, so it is certainly a good buy if you find a good one. Personally I think PASM is a very nice option to have (and the big brakes etc), so a Hartech rebuilt C2S is still my favourite, but I can see your point. (One point to mention, only the 4 wheel drive cars get the wide body.)
Thanks. Definitely agree that the 3.6 is less prone to scoring. PASM can be a nice option to have but unfortunately it's one more thing to go wrong. Definitely agree with the Hartech rebuild being desirable :) Thanks for the info on the wide body, I thought the S had a wider body compared to a base.
@@InvictusMotors Im on my third base C2 now- Im the opposite to most I hunt the most basic - none sunroof- none pasm - rear wiper delete - I own classic cars less is more and easier to run on spec- sunroofs can be a royal pain in the ass- the other rewards are weight saving and the purist 911 money can buy - manual - light - rwd.
I love this video because most people write off the Carrera and just go straight to the s.. that’s kinda sad to me. It’s plenty a 911 for most of us! I could have bought a s or gts but I wanted to explore the base carrera ! I feel more connected to the brand with a base of that makes sense.. man you get so much feel through the steering it take some getting used too! Kinda like a gocart! My only plans is to lower it just a bit with the b12 cup kit by bilstein! Thx again for this review
Those would be great mods. I agree with your sentiment on the base Carrera. More is not necessarily better esp when it comes to power on public roads. How many miles have you done on it?
@@InvictusMotors Hi, it’s a 05 gt silver with 77k. I am the 4th owner. It has about 12k in options . Bose sound system, headlights , sport chrono ,19 inch classic Carrera wheels and power and heated seat. I paid slightly under 40k . Thx again for the very informative videos. I really think you guys have the best Porsche content 👌👌
Good question, not using the function isn't advisable. As you have it, I would recommend to make use of it from time to time :) When a PASM strut fails, it costs circa £800 inc. labour to replace. Pain in the backside :(
anche questa ha il problema slow start per ossidamento connessioni da batteria a motorino avviamento , si sente dal rumore lento del motorino quando la avvia.
Thanks Terry. Fair point on the exhaust drone. I guess each to their own, ideally I would have preferred a sports exhaust from Porsche as they strike a much nicer balance sound wise.
Godspeed63, I have a 997.1 4s. Black on black. X51 kit from factory. Sport seats. Sunroof. PSE. 120k miles… I’m not thrilled about selling it but I am interested
Your passion for the base Carrera really comes across. Interesting that a lot of respected motoring journalists likewise consider the base Carrera as the 'pick.' I also agree that the interior ergonomics, leather finishing, and stylish colour add to that special experience. Nice video, thank you.
Thank you Leo for the compliment :) we appreciate your kind words.
I just love the way you passionately talk about this cars. One cannot help but feel the truthfulness and get the message clearly. 👌🏿
Thank you sir :) really appreciate the compliment
Had my 2005 997.1 Carerra S for 7 years now, unopened engine, passing 112000 miles on the clock, OCI at 5000 miles, no problems at all, Fantastic cars, and the last true 911 in my opinion
Got my first 911 almost 2 years ago- 2006 (997.1) Carrera 2S manual transmission. It only had 14,000 miles and the price was high. Still, it's worth it. It has the best shape, size and sound. Even the tail lights look great. Thanks for the review.
If you use your 911 over time the price you have paid for it becomes irrelevant. They are last good size sports car before they got too GT
Your speechlessness says it all…. This car is more than words can describe. I love the base 997.1. Would love to own one of these… and I may just take the plunge and get one while I still can.
Thank you :) much appreciated. Phenomenal 911 especially the 997.1. I hope that you do buy one soon, they are brilliant, I am sure you will love it :)
As a 997.1 owner it’s great to see someone fighting the corner for the m96/m97 engined cars. I find the biggest difference between the two is the type of plastic used in the cabin and the suspension used.
Gen2 has a different type of plastic used in the cabin which does not become as brittle over time. The gen one interiors can creak and rattle. The suspension only has two gyros to detect pasm too, the gen 2 has a third gyro as well as different spring rates.
The character of my x51 3.8 is intoxicating
Thanks T I for watching and I am glad you are on the M96/97 side to the fence. You are right about the type of plastic used in the interior between the two generations.
Interesting to hear about the two gyros vs three on the 997.2 and spring rating.
Glad to hear that you love the X51 👍
I have an A 5, the interior is high end. The first gen 997 doesn’t meet that defn
@@InvictusMotors You can upgrade the Gyros in the 997.1 DSC Sport
Had a 997 C2 since 2020 and love it! Came from a 987. Great review.
2005 997 911
Speed Yellow
6sp manual
Factory sport shifter and sport steering wheel
PASM / Sport Chrono Plus
Adaptive Sport Seats
Full Leather in black
19" Sport Design Wheels
Various other things like rain sensing wipers, rear wiper, Bi-Xenons, yellow seat belts and cluster and center console
Vertex pressure fed IMS bearing fix
If you are ever selling the speed yellow, let me know please
I love my 997 gen 1 carerra 4. It looks great with the wider rear, plenty of power and the manual gearbox is fantastic. Personally not a big fan of the new models.
Another great video! I’ve owned a fair few different models of Porsche and I agree there is something so special about the 997! I really love mine (bought at Invictus!)
Thank you Raashid. Really appreciate the feedback and glad you are loving your 997. Wishing you a Happy New Year in advance :)
997.1 one I prefer it over the 997.2 all way.
:) nice to hear, glad you share the same perspective
I would say that the Turbo too is my favorite. The 997.1 across the board.
Definitely the Turbo's are phenomenal. Yes without the doubt the 997 is the one :)
To my eyes the design is aesthetic pleasing
I have a 2008 Porsche 911 997 Gen 1 Base with Turbo Wheels and I love it.
Super glad to hear. What's your favourite part about your 997?
As a gen 1 C2S owner I love the review, however, I will disagree on the gear box. The Miata and the s2000 both make everything else I have driven seam rubbery and vague. I have 89k miles on my 911 and it’s a wonderful car.
Totally agree with the gearbox is compared to something like the S2000, unfortunately I haven't driven the Miata so I can't comment. The S2000 was a dream to drive, everything about it was exception and driver's oriented :)
I upgraded my C2S with a Numeric racing shifter and cable. Completely changed the driving experience. Would highly recommend!
@@wildcarcollection I have been told it makes the gear shifting difficult, harder, more resistance?
The miata gear box is EPIC tho. So snappy and precise.
@@Ti-sq8jm shifting is short and crisp, I've got on of the middle setting and it's definitely not too stiff
Carrera 4, 4S, Turbo, and GT variants have the wide body (except the standard GT3, GT3 RS is also wide body). Carrera, Carrera S are narrow body. A lot of people believe the base Carrera is perfect. You have wring it out to get the joy out of it and that engagement is what everyone is looking for.
Thanks for the correction, appreciate your contribution here :)
Definitely agree with your base Carrera assessment, it's joy to drive :)
@@InvictusMotors I enjoy any 997 content! You seem to be doing a lot lately!! Best of luck! Happy holidays!
@@K1dPhresh1 thank you appreciate it :) yes we are doing a bit more now than usual as things seem to slow down a bit which means more spare time ;)
I have a 911 997 S. It was great to see this video. Cheers!
Glad you liked the video :)
What's your favourite thing about your 911? And tell us of the worst lol ;)
@@InvictusMotors I moved from a 996 to a 997. The thing I didn't like is that the 997 is not so pure, in terms of driving experience as the 996. You feel the car is faster, of course, but more filtered than the 996.
Nevertheless, you can drive it as your daily (which I don't do) car.
Great video, I’m looking at a 997.1 Carrera 4 manual out here in Canada. Is the comparison video out?
I’ve been looking for the same.. I’ve owned a 87 Carrera and a 2001 996 Turbo. Now looking at 2006 Carrera 4, not much out there..
You’re a sports car enthusiast. I agree. This car hits the sweet spot between power, weight, performance, technology, simplicity, luxury utility, and not a turbo. 👍🏻 It’s brilliant. No car can match it for overall driving enjoyment. Why can’t they make cars like this anymore?
You have hit the nail on the head there Mike. What do you drive?
@@InvictusMotors I have a C8, 2001 M roadster, 1989 560SL, motorcycles, but go thru a lot of cars. Had an R8v10, Alfa Romeo Giulia QV, RS3 over the years. My gf has a Mini Cooper. Love driving that. My next will be a Porsche 997.2 which is brilliant. Would like an M2 also. I dont prefer big, heavy, unwieldy cars to daily drive no matter how powerful. Cheers.
Great review.
I’ve got a 997 gen 2 turbo s and love it. Would like to hear your thoughts.
Nice to know that you have the Gen 2 Turbo S, they are worth a fortune now. Awesome carand I have always believed that they are worth atleast a £100k+
I am about to sell mine. Same color 2005 manual. Great car.
Such a good drivers review, can not disagree in any way as a driver who wants to be in charge of the driving experience, I'll work it out better than the electronic control of the later models 👏👍
Thank you Paul for the feedback
To fix that slow crank, follow you pos batt cable to the junction to the left of the battery, pull out the red pin, wiggle off. Sand paper on the stud, little wire brush on the part that slips on the stud. Your welcome. Why they did this? Who knows.
I agree that the 997.1 has an awful lot going for it. It looks better than the 997.2 (due to the lights), and the engine sounds much better too.
The base Carrera seems somewhat less prone to bore scoring than the 3.8S too, so it is certainly a good buy if you find a good one.
Personally I think PASM is a very nice option to have (and the big brakes etc), so a Hartech rebuilt C2S is still my favourite, but I can see your point.
(One point to mention, only the 4 wheel drive cars get the wide body.)
Thanks. Definitely agree that the 3.6 is less prone to scoring. PASM can be a nice option to have but unfortunately it's one more thing to go wrong. Definitely agree with the Hartech rebuild being desirable :)
Thanks for the info on the wide body, I thought the S had a wider body compared to a base.
@@InvictusMotors everyone always does, it seems logical really, shame they didn't do it like that!
@@pjay3028 Happy New Year, as always thank you for sharing your perspective with us. We need it :)
@@InvictusMotors Im on my third base C2 now- Im the opposite to most I hunt the most basic - none sunroof- none pasm - rear wiper delete - I own classic cars less is more and easier to run on spec- sunroofs can be a royal pain in the ass- the other rewards are weight saving and the purist 911 money can buy - manual - light - rwd.
Well reviewed
I love this video because most people write off the Carrera and just go straight to the s.. that’s kinda sad to me. It’s plenty a 911 for most of us! I could have bought a s or gts but I wanted to explore the base carrera ! I feel more connected to the brand with a base of that makes sense.. man you get so much feel through the steering it take some getting used too! Kinda like a gocart! My only plans is to lower it just a bit with the b12 cup kit by bilstein! Thx again for this review
Those would be great mods. I agree with your sentiment on the base Carrera. More is not necessarily better esp when it comes to power on public roads. How many miles have you done on it?
@@InvictusMotors Hi, it’s a 05 gt silver with 77k. I am the 4th owner. It has about 12k in options . Bose sound system, headlights , sport chrono ,19 inch classic Carrera wheels and power and heated seat. I paid slightly under 40k . Thx again for the very informative videos. I really think you guys have the best Porsche content 👌👌
If your base 997.1 carrera does have pasm , but you never use it. Is it just as reliable?
Good question, not using the function isn't advisable. As you have it, I would recommend to make use of it from time to time :)
When a PASM strut fails, it costs circa £800 inc. labour to replace. Pain in the backside :(
PASM is always active Steven, the button on your dashboard changes the character of the system, but the system is always active
I hear a lot about bore scoring issue. Does that happen to mayority of 997's or is just a few?
It is quite a small number but still worth getting it bore scoped
Ahhahaha man i got my 997.1 carrera
Your eyes look just like mine ahhaah
U re sick man🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thank you, are you enjoying the 997?
anche questa ha il problema slow start per ossidamento connessioni da batteria a motorino avviamento , si sente dal rumore lento del motorino quando la avvia.
nice car - good review - I'm just not a fan of the exhaust Drone.
Thanks Terry. Fair point on the exhaust drone. I guess each to their own, ideally I would have preferred a sports exhaust from Porsche as they strike a much nicer balance sound wise.
@@InvictusMotors I had aftermarket exhaust on my 993 - no drone & a Shark W my 07 GT3 - no drone at all - of course YMMV
Bash can you sort me out with a 997.1 4S under £23k? Reg Upto 31st March 2006
Will happily try. What sort of a mileage are you after? You can also message me on WhatsApp on 07833 788508.
Godspeed63, I have a 997.1 4s. Black on black. X51 kit from factory. Sport seats. Sunroof. PSE.
120k miles…
I’m not thrilled about selling it but I am interested
Tic tic tic rattle bang
This Gen1 has hidious tail lights and interior. Get the Gen2 instead with the 3.8L.
Gen 1 tail lights are actually better (design and style).
NEVER buy a Gen 1. The End.
Nice Dacia in your garage…
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