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Hey Zach! Thanks for the review. Just a couple of notes we had but overall appreciate the feedback.
Our cost for the Ryzen 5 5600G systems that you reviewed is $648.18. Sadly, we don't have all the connections we want yet to make our systems more affordable. This is something we have spent a lot of R&D on and hope to bring the price down even more this year.
With our $50 off promo right now, we are only profiting $100, and that is before paying our employees well above minimum wage.
Regarding Aresgame power supplies. We appreciate the feedback and will take it into consideration for our lower end PC's. We have shipped and built around a thousand systems with this power supply and have had a total of two go bad and it was DOA. But again, we will look into options to improve on this!
We definitely give you props for the builds you sell on your site! We hope to keep working on building those connections and offer better pricing.
Oh and we decided to create code ZTT10 for 10% off all our builds for the next two days.
Honestly you guys are absolute professionals when it comes to constructive feedback and criticism. Major props. 🤘
You guys took the criticism like a champ and we really appreciate you guys for your honesty!
We love toasty bros
Toasty Bros ftw, professional as hell, quality as hell, gonna be a giant!
Two of my favorite TH-camrs building better connections with each other?!? Love to see it 👍
Dudes is roasting them and plugging his own LLC 😂 lmfao
i fr just wanted to see what it’s like to get a pc from the toasty bros and ended up learning every single detail about some dudes business plans and what he wants to do with it
Welcome to the Internet.😁 At least we know about the PSU tier list. Normally stick with Corsair (USA) and ASUS (International) to avoid issues or get reliable help if one pops up.
Well just don’t. They literally lied about the price they built it at considering when they commented multiple people built the same system for 2-300 less
I mean they’re a business and they’re allowed to charge what they want for it?
Ultimately the price I get components for doesn’t also have to factor in rent, utilities, and employees.
Fair review. In my opinion it would have been better without plugging your own company. Don't get me wrong, I'm an entrepreneur and I understand, but that turned it from an honest and fair review to almost a hater review to build your own company. No disrespect because again I understand why you did that, but it would have made for a better review to me if you didn't.
Literally as he was saying that I read this comment
I definitely agree, wanted to search the comments to see if another individual had the same criticism.
I agree. It takes away from the "fair" part of the criticism.
I was also thinking the exact same thing.
Wow reading these comments it's no wonder we have an over 538% global inflation in just over 5 decades. We seem to have the biggest bottom feeder of consumers here. Build a pc yourself you'll realize the value isn't really here regardless of personal plug and it does say bought undercover.
I don't think you can fairly call that PSU a fire hazard for being on the list when it is in a section that says it may just be there isn't enough info on it. Considering they are willing to support it with warranty and have a lot of experience with it, I would think they have good faith in it, otherwise their support costs would go through the roof. Also, not fair to assume they are getting better than retail pricing when they are a small SI.
I’ve got the 650 watt model at the moment. Running a 3700x and 2070 super for over a year. Just yesterday i made the switch to intel and got the 12700kf and still using the same psu. Pretty solid to me.
@@FlySoto yep ive used a few aries games psus with no problems either
Same here 5600g build with 1660 super Overclocked and a ares 500w, no problem at all.
I’ve used the Ares Game psu and it has held up perfectly well for 1 year
yea, the focus on the psu wasnt really selling me on his review. I put an aresgaming psu in my girlfriends pc when her evga600w psu went out about two years ago and that psu has been kicking just fine. out of the last 4 psu ive had, two of them were aresgaming, and two were evga. Guess which ones I haven't had to replace?
I have used my Aresgame 500w power supply very frequently in two different builds since i got it in January of 2021. I can't exactly say its perfectly safe, because I've always used below 400w systems with it (rx 570 + i5 4570, and then rx 570 + i3 10100f,) but it hasn't given me a single problem in all the time I've had it.
I have an Aresgame 650 watt psu in my home-built system and I've been very happy with it for the 15 months it has been in service. And, I must say, when you start your review with an "I'm not trying to create drama" statement... well it means you know you're trying to start drama. Doubt I'll ever watch another video on this channel.
Fair review. Little harsh on the power supply. I purchased like 20 of these for builds. No issues. But I'd rather see a 650w psu or better for the customers eventual gpu upgrade. 500w is a little low for mid range gpu's.
Nice video!
So what he said was "a little harsh" about the PSU but you even stated that it's a "little low for mid range GPU's" after knowing that this 500w PSU is the "bottom of the barrel" PSU that isn't meant for a mid range PC.
@@spankbuda7466many people buy this psu on a budget and then upgrade down the line, it's not the end of the world.
"this video isn't about starting drama"
*Shits on their build*
"Don't ever buy this! Buy mine instead! It's better I promise!"
Toasty Bros PCs are 💩. $1000 for a 10th gen i3/GTX 1650 with no free shipping. $865 for a Ryzen 5600g PC. Their builds and specs aren't any better than the ones they make fun of.
More efficient to build your on PC 😂
@@JamesStealso we're should I buy a pre build from I just need a PC to run ps2 and psp emulators that's the main thing I'll use it for
Exactly
@@isaiahjohnson9857buy a smart phone, dies all that. never buy a prebuilt, they prebuilt to make money, you can buy better parts cheaper and a child could put a pc together
Your "honest" review left a bad taste in my mouth. The whole time you were making assumptions about policies and practices of PCB that you had no clue about, but you also kept plugging your own business while ripping PCB apart. This was anything but an honest review.
I agree man it was a bit fucked up. At least Toasty Bros arent being unprofessional about it and took the criticism but youre right.
Agreed! He repeatedly plugged his own business throughout the business. It got so annoying and unprofessional.
How was it not honest? He was using his own (much smaller) business as the only real point of reference. While watching this I never felt like he was "plugging" his own business. To be honest, you haven't made an argument that this review wasn't honest, other than him comparing the build to the only thing he had personal knowledge of. Zach was pretty brutal but, I don't think most people can argue with his final assessment.
This dude build gaming PC but doesn't show how it preforms while playing games.
lol someones butthurt it’s TH-cam basically the internet get over it weirdo
Only thing id want them to do is add to their note saying that if you change to a dedicated gpu you should consider changing the psu as well. I think you went kinda hard on them to promote your own company
Yep that's why I highlighted that!
Bruhh, You can't "review" something to just plug your own company over it. I'm unsubbing
Omg don't do it he's gonna cry over your sub
@@sportler777 like you are right now? Here’s a Kleenex
Unsubbing too. Not a real review of Toasty Bros. In my opinion more of a Promotion of his own PC units.
@@ralphhoney5334 atleast his "PC units" got value and not scamms like tb
@@tacosplash the video is sitting at 236 dislikes if you were wondering.
I appreciate the review and the details you gave on the parts. I definitely like that you touched on the power supply a bit, and I totally get why you didn't obsess over it, _but_ I thought I'd give a bit more information on what group regulation means, for anyone interested:
To explain this, we'll have to talk about what a power supply in a PC does. The power that comes from your wall is not consistent enough to be used in a computer (it's AC, if you want to look into that further.) A power supply must convert it into power that your system can use (DC.) A power supply outputs power in 3 voltages: 12V, 5V, and 3.3V. 12V is what will be used the most; your CPU and GPU both draw from it. Modern systems will often draw several hundred watts from this rail. The other rails are referred to as the minor rails, powering things like RAM, storage, and sometimes lighting. Since going from 1.4V to 1.9V to the CPU is usually enough to kill it, it's important that these "rails" stay consistent. As such, these should be regulated separately, ideally. In most modern power supplies, this is the case; good units typically use what's called DC-DC, where it will convert the input power to 12V, then convert the 12V to 5V and 3.3V as needed with buck converters.
This is where group regulation becomes a problem. With group regulation, 5V and 12V are regulated on the same coil. If power draw becomes substantially different on 5V compared to 12V, regulation will start to fail since the PSU has to switch between 5V and 12V constantly. Ohn's law states that power is equal to the product of current and voltage. So if 5V and 12V are outputting different enough wattages (power,) and the PSU can't keep up, then the 12V rail starts to output a voltage lower than 12V, with 5V outputting higher than 5V. In modern systems, it's not uncommon for hundreds of watts to be drawn from the 12V rail, with under 100 combined being drawn by the other rails. This is why group regulation is a problem for modern systems.
The AGV500 might not be a huge issue with a 5600G alone, but when the buyer adds a dGPU down the line, that's when it can present problems. And, of course, just untested protections.
I think this is important information. Tier E PSUs can be bad but it depends of what will you do with that PC. I got my brother a Xigmatec Zpower because I couldnt afford any other PSU and it does good on the system because its an iGPU.
I personally have used the same exact PSU 3 times without flaw, and I've used a EVGA PSU also, and that is the one that was faulty.
yeah he was just saying dumb things to try and make the PC look bad so his PC he sells would look better. Very scummy suggesting his competitors sell PCs that are fire hazards....ARESGAME makes fine products. The only bad thing about their power supplies is the efficiency. As proven by Gamers Nexus with actual power supply testing equipment and methodology.
@@DroneMee Lol, the price alone made it look bad he didn't even have to mention the power supply.
You provided zero information of those 3 times that you used this PSU. We don't know the specs of your PC build that you used them in.
better yet build your own with parts from marketplace, amazon, walmart, ebay, and damaged shipping stores.. just takes time and can be very rewarding when your done. plus you learn something. youtube and social media has a lot of dyi help
They have a AMD FX 6300 + GTX 1050 "Gaming PC" selling for $775 on sale from $850... there are multiple things that need to be evaluated with how they are pricing some of these "Gaming" PC's. I like Toasty Bros but really... FX 6300 and a 1050.
The link to this video has now been added to the definition of passive-aggressive in the new edition of the Webster’s dictionary. Seemed like a pretty good attempt of bashing someone’s business while not bashing someone’s business.
It's called a product review. His points were valid.
@@FadiQv this is like Apple reviewing Samsung while plugging their own phones
@@alexmiller3539 didn't Samsung already do something like that? Remember when they made fun of apples iphone notch?
Brands undermine each other all the time.
@@FadiQv That PSU is not a fire hazard at all, it just has low efficiency, yet Zach kept trying to put the fear of God into everyone by saying that it'll catch your build on fire, which is not the case.
Hey Zach I follow both you guys and I do agree that some of the Toasty Bros builds aren't nearly as nice as yours for sure with aesthetics but they tend to focus on more of what you can afford and do put the Costa of the builds on the channel. Most for the builds are done on TH-cam as well so it may very well be that it's just more costly for then to build where they are. That being said I mean Amazon and eBay do have very good deals as well as Newegg so it's something for them to consider.
Lol like most other person's in the comments I think it may have been best to leave out you AD for ZTT builds to make it more fair to them. Kinda seemed like you were using the opportunity to push ur own builds... Aresgame is also a solid low budget PSU which I have used for over a year with no issues in a lower end build with a GPU 500w
Don't they sell i3 10100f + rx 6600 pc build on 1000$? Is that affordable?
$850 for a $300 build is insane
I have a Aresgame AGW 650 in my personal rig and I have used it for more than a year, no issues.
In all fairness, even big tech companies use sketchy / bad power supplys. Just because its not optimal doesnt mean it doesnt work as intended for a long time.
bro ur tryna deny the fact they are selling an i3 pc for 1100 dollars wake up and stop being bias
I use them PSUs in a lot of my builds and customer builds. I don't think I'd trust that list if they're in the avoid category..
Similar build in Denmark.
Ryzen 5-5600G
MSI B450M Pro-VHD Max (Similar B550 board goes for $15-$20 more)
G.Skill Aegis 2x8GB 3200 CL 16
D Blue SN550 M.2 500GB
Asus TUF Gaming 650B 650W
AeroCool Trinity Mini-G Tempered Glass.
600 USD with taxes
480 pre-taxes. (Yeah, we have a 25% VAT)
That PSU is definitely not a "fire hazard,"
Okay, so I finally listened to the whole thing. Rather than changing my previous assessment, it simple reinforced it and magnified it. This is, IMO, bad form. This is not simply a review as you describe it. You repeatedly boost your builds and your company by comparing it to the TBs PC. Basically, "I do it better, so buy from me, not from them". That may not be how you intended it, but that's how I read it. They may be a larger builder than you are, but that doesn't excuse this sort of "take down" video. Yeah, I know, you don't want it seen that way, and it's softer and a bit subtler, but my assessment is still that it comes across as an attempt to bolster your own business at the cost of a "competitor". And that competitor is run by "people you know" and is still a fellow YTer and not some big corporation. Despite their gracious reply, this leaves a very bad impression for me. Can't judge your motivation, but the presentation is at least questionable in my view. All your caveats and disclaimers at the beginning speak for themselves in this regard.
this is true.
Agree
Well said.
Why go undercover? Why not just ask them for a PC to review. You may have been able to send them one of yours. Seems less genuine and that a different motive was behind the video. Too bad they don't have one of yours to review.
As a former UPS employee I will say now that even with all the fragile stickers, your item won’t really be taken care of anymore than normally by the employees that have been there for awhile
Ive been using the FSP Fortron Hexa psus for years now and they still run with no issues. I honestly dont understand why they are in the tier e category. They are great psus for mid range systems.
look at those crazy prices
I’m using an Aresgame 550w with a 10400f and 3060 ti and it’s been working perfect for almost a year now so it might be tier E but price to performance is nutty lol
Running a business is difficult lmao, let alone a computer business with prices of parts shifting constantly
newer oems use a sticker over the motherboard video output pointing to the correct port
I have a Aresgame PSU, I seen Toasty Bros use it on one of their videos so I decided to buy one for my PC build, a year later I haven't had any problems with it so i feel like that "Tier list" is wrong and not accurate
its a cheaper psu from a company who uses shady business practices.
OR you can go to your local PC repair shop and look at what they have on sale. Mine currently has 1 with an i7 11th gen, 16gb, 1tb ssd, and a 3060 for $400!!! They also have an Xbox Series X with controller for $400!!!!
Add a low tac sticky tear off label to the GPU outs if you want your customer to connect to them, minor cost big aftercare time saving!
Oof I have a tier E psu and didn’t even know lol but it’s been working good for me for about a year now haha
i hate when cables are excesivly zip tied or routed together. if the power supply ever needs to be changed or the case gets damaged and needs to be replaced its a pain in the butt to cut zip ties that are tight and not cut the wires they are holding together. if its got a front windwos, make the inside look nice, but the backside, thats not visable, who cares really. out of sight out of mind. saves a lot of time as well!!!!!!!
they took your advice on the power supply for the one I am planing to order its a tier c now instead of e and according to good they have no danger
I have the aresgame 500w 80 bronze , I didn’t know it was tier E, almost had it in my pc for a year and I haven’t had any problems with it
That’s what I’m saying I have mines for a year too and I haven’t had any problems, I feel the tier list is just judging by the brand and the specs of it.
Calling out their use of PSU when you used a even lower wattage one for your is insane, using a b450 board with PCIe 3 instead of PCIe4 board, and at least they list the company their ram is from and not just a generic "2x8GB DDR4 3600 MHz". To each their own, and if you really want to review just review. Plugging your own shit every other minute waters down the whole video. Good for Toastybros for actually giving a professional response to this.
Enjoyed the vid 😇👍. A “Tier E” psu doesn’t necessarily mean certain model exploding Gigabyte psu or H1 (Rev.1) riser cable fire issue. Not a great psu compared to others at a similar/same price as mentioned but not necessarily a fire hazard 🤔
That PSU being called a fire hazard is a bit much. I have built with 3 of those PSU all 3 for my kids an all 3 have 3060s on them for over a year with zero issues thermally and otherwise.. I also believe that PSU is on that tier list because it was never tested I could be wrong though I have watched reviews for that PSU is taking apart and it's pretty sound really no better quality than the EVGA BR... But all that being said love your channel keep doing great things
The shaaaaade. Sheesh! The Toasty Bros took the high road.
Fragile sticker on every corner. Nice. However, as a courier, albeit about change jobs, I can attest that we don’t have time to take care of fragile boxes. They get shoved into wherever they fit with whatever force is needed to make them fit and often time get tossed in from several feet away. My coworkers are very much in the mode of this needs to get done or fall behind and never have time for a pee break. I personally try to take notice of fragile boxes and set them aside in a specific location during load out, even though the boss man has a tendency to get annoyed walk over and start tossing them in himself. His answer is, “it is in a box and protected, it is fine!”
We have 2-3 minutes per stop. Never have time for our breaks or lunches. It is go go go the whole day.
Out of all the pc building companies why toasty bro and why the self promo, this isn't how you get customers at all you lose people doing scummy things like this
you can cheap out on a lot of things but never the power supply. thats the one thing that, if it fails, it can and will fry everything else.
cheap out on anything else and you are only out that one component if it fails vs cheaping out on one component and loosing everything in the build if you are lucky and it doesn't take the house out with it when it fails.
I've been in the PC business since I was 13, rebuilding computers with windows 3.1.1 and windows 95, I have 2 digresses and 4 certifications. Mind you I also can build my own PSU as well using all the same grade parts as EVGA, SEASONIC and ECT. It doesn't mean it won't fault, BUT I love how he thinks he has an electrical engineering degree to know just how well a PSU is built and to what standards where I have my own PSU that I designed waiting UL and EnergyStar Approval. Might I also point out just how much USED parts you also use in your builds over the NEW parts they use in their builds. If I lived where you did I'm sure I could make you look like over priced too.
Wow you want a cookie?
did you market it as 80+ gold when you knew it wasnt even silver?
@@TheSjuris it's UL and Energy Star approved and is rated 80+ Gold. I sold the design and it's being made by a big box brand under a sub company.
@@Metalhead_Geek it was marketed as 80+ gold until it was tested properly and found to be 80+ bronze. False marketing and paid reviews 2 signs ot a bad company. Its 80 bronze right now.
Thanks for the ❤❤❤ my guy!
I've had an Aresgames psu for a little over a year so far. I haven't had any problem I've overclocked quite a bit. Maybe in 4 years if it does explode I'll come back and comment lmao.
Not much of a fan of toasty bros, but I'm also going to be fair with your criticisms.
1) Price changes all the time, so tb coulda bought their parts for higher cost.
2) You went on too hard on the psu. Does the tier really determines how much of a fire hazard the unit is?
3) Your $750 recommendation is hard to recreate due to gpu prices.
The cheap PSU was the only thing Zach could pick apart and he did it way too much with wild accusations of how dangerous a Tier E PSU is but it's simply not the case. It's not necessarily a bad PSU as the Tier list is based on price point, efficiency and overall performance, which doesn't mean there is any danger in using the PSU, just that the equation of price/efficiency/performance may not be very good.
800 for that is wild..
Getting a "decent" power supply is like putting questionable engine oil into your car. Sure, it might be fine up front but in the long run it might not be the safest option. I do understand the price is exceptional for what you get but I must agree with Zach here, a PSU from a reputable brand really secures an entire PC build as its a complete asset for the rest of the system.
Agreed
What would you consider questionable oil?
Wtf are you talking about, Ares game literally is an underrated brand of PSU that has been getting a shit ton of positive feedback from people who have used it for a year or two
Nahh, the PSU is one of the few parts that shouldn't be bought based on brand. Buying a PSU should be model specific because even bigger brands cheap tf out on components and there are times when a PSU from another brand is overall cheaper but have better components than some of a famous brands' offerings (Corsair's CV lineup for example are ass)
@@AudricAG like originally branding this PSU as 80÷ gold and bribing reviewers to get positive reviews.
this type of damage can happen when the workers overload the belt or when someone doesn't know how to use a forklift properly
rare footage of zach wearing a nvidia shirt 4:35
This video seems tacky, this is not how to be objective. It just seems at every point you keep throwing punches at there business and promoting you business. Not a good look, sincerely.
Much smaller channel tries to criticize a lot bigger and more successful channel and doesn’t want to “create drama.” Haha ya don’t believe that for a second. If you didn’t want to create drama, why the hell did you do it in the first place? Guy is just doing this in hopes for clout. Wrong way to build your channel in my opinion. Toasty Bros still handled this video like professionals and didn’t stoop to his level or give him the drama he was hoping for.
Can you build a pc that will pull warzone with minimal specs for around 500$
I can
16 gb ram
Msi b550m Vc wifi
500 gb Samsung 970 ssd
Evga 650 watt power supply
Ryzen 5600g
Any case that supports mini atx
Rest of the money just get accessories or save for dedicated gpu
My PSU is apparently Tier E, but on the Linus tech tips forum with my old hardware they told me it is fine
It's not necessarily a bad PSU as the Tier list is based on price point, efficiency and overall performance, which doesn't mean there is any danger in using the PSU, just that the equation of price/efficiency/performance may not be very good.
@@Grievous- Aha. I actually got this PSU very cheap from my favorite online retailer buying it open box and compared to the 500w version it was a steal because it cost just a few dollars more. And I have trust in EVGA, so I did not put much thought into the PSU.
He literally renamed them the RoastyBros bc they just got FLAMED. In all honesty though, I saw the pinned comment and I'm a huge fan of the ToastyBros so I just wanted to make sure y'all know that.
$800 for something that can’t even do what my ancient i5 GTX1050 build could do…
Just bought my first gaming PC from origin PCs custom build spend 4300 ish with taxes 3080 graphic n went with amd since a fan recommended me that brand :)
I sell a lot of PC's and every other customer plugs the HDMI into the motherboard even though I make sure to tell them in person where to plug in. Just comes with the territory. A paper would help.
Did their computer have any packaging inside the computer case?
If I had a pc selling business I'd put a small sticker over the motherboard hmdi port not a huge sticker like some companies do but a semi-permanent sticker that covers it up entirely one you don't need to take it off to use the pc.
One piece of hardware you never want to cheap on is the power supply all go with a known brand name. You don't want a power supply blow up on you cause chances it will take out other hardware in the system.
11:30 mean while my psu is also in the tier E list (EVGA - BV - W2 / W2 / W3
Yikes. You can build a 12400f RX 6600 for pretty close to this price
Prices on both of those are dropping too!
The start of something incredible 😂❤
I am planing on getting their second gen i5 pc soon cant wait itll be my first pc
Don’t buy from them. They’re overpriced and lied about how much they paid to build this
just checked out the psu tier list for first time and my psu is tier A, nice.... i have a White Corsair RM (2021) 850watt.
HAHA omg bro i watch both of you
Same
Same
Good info, poor choice making this an advertisement for your company.
Hard to take any of it as legitimate when you’re using it as a sales opportunity.
"Undercover" I had no idea who this guy is until I saw this video.
It's good to be an informed consumer and we appreciate the general idea of saving money. But, it's never going to be completely objective when you have a competing "product". So just call it what it is, McDonald's and Burger King have been doing it forever, marketing to turn people to your own competing "products". It may have been better, since you know them personally, to send them some productive, non-public, feedback instead to potentially fix the issues you have with their process/products. Not everyone needs the level of video that Nexus has done for "The Egg".
Just never buy a pre-built unless you have $4000
Dude just basically used another pc builder to promote his own company...with lots of "humble brags"
I have never had any problems with my Aries psu. Ive used a few. I guess im lucky haha. Great content! keep it up.
Good feedback, we don't want another Artesian ****.
NGL he roasted the toasty bros 🤣
The whole HDMI thing confuses me for two reasons. Firstly, if you know you are getting a descrete in your build, why would you not plug the HDMI into that? Secondly, because even though I have a discreet graphics car and use that, my motherboard HDMI works as well. It was the same on my ancient PC that I owned years ago (not HDMI but still display output). Surely the onboard display ports would still be active unless you have purposely disabled them? It's great to have both working as when I want to plug my TV into my PC I dont have to mess about unplugging my monitor and can have it run both at the same time.
I would like to share… I bought a Seasonic S12III 650w 80+ bronze (I guess it’s a tier E) thinking it would be reliable and is a good deal ($65). I have been using it for 2.5 years with a 3700x and a 3070, with no issues. Should I consider replacing it ASAP?
I suppose i picked it before the tire list was really a thing so I suppose I’m ok for my justifications at the time
$800 and no GPU? That’s a joke lol.
Stirring some shit here big man
Kinda sus that all of their PCs are "on sale"
This was just a hit piece to put down another brand in favour of your own. That you only offer a three day warranty on your PCs really shows what faith you have in them.
I once bought generic toilet paper undercover. 😂
Bashing another company, while pushing your own is just bs
Dude, stop telling us so much about what "you do" ... this vid was supposed to be focused on PcBros experience.
This is definitely a hater review with you talking about your company way too much
Best budget gaming pc
That price and no GPU.........yeah I had my conclusion right away.
Lmao sounds about right come get my stuff right lol
I went to Amazon got the same parts except a different case for 600 dollars
And had a 600 watt power supply
yo that powersuplly is ac good
Dude isn't taking bad on ps Bros in my eyes just more like the PC he is saying they could do better not that they can't so it's a pretty honest review but I feel like he shouldn't have used his company to lean back on and brag about, he should have used another trusted company instead
idk about u but paying $800+ and not even getting a GPU doesn't seem like a good deal..
In my country they sell Corsair vs550 for $100!
in my opinion its kinda more expensive i can get an intel 12th gen and a 30 series gpu (3060 or 3050) at my local pc shop for 600-900$ but since its online and they use a ton of shipping material i can see why
Hey! Zach! I think your website is a great place for pc gamers to buy prebuilt pcs off from, but it'd be really cool if you could be able to customize your pc (not spec wise but appearance wise like, change the color way of the pc, cables from the psu etc)
Well the thumbnail makes it seems toasty
Is it good for console streaming and editing?