The Navi looks like it takes the bumps a bit better than the Ruck. My 450nk is a firm ride. You never get jarred but you definitely feel the bumps in a firm way. But because of that you get great handling in the curves... No sense of wallowing while tracking around a tighter curve. The short wheel base allows you to turn slowly in a show (1-2 mph) tight turn without dumping the bike. But it's a heavier bike. These Navis, Rucks, and Groms are much lighter in the 200 lb range and they are much more of a breeze to handle. You can tend to relax more riding these lighter bikes at slower speeds. Where as, when you get into the heavier bikes you can't casually allow them to lean over much while at a stop... they will likely overpower you and dump. Gord
Got a Navi Nov '22, have 9700 miles on it and just love it! Great for around town and also trail riding in the woods, if you can believe that! Lotsa of narrow backroads near me, the Navi is a champ on those as well.
I got the exact same Navi in August. Same color and everything. Rode a motorcycle one time in my life when I was like 10 years old. Jumped on this thing and haven’t stopped! I zip around all over Mobile, Al. I love it! It was the best impulse purchase and have no regrets!
Saved and got mine in august of 2023, just a giggle to ride. E-bikes hate us as much as the larger cc bikes do. WOT gas mileage is not the greatest but the cost makes up for it. I am willing to bet that 300 miles cost less than $20 in gas. For me, this is a 30mph bike for best gas. Or if you are going under that you can really go far above the listed mileage. Also cheaper costs for tires is always a bonus. If you are confortable changing them it makes the whole thing under $200 if you buy top of the line tires. The Navi is many things but it’s best feature is cost to own/maintenance.
🛑🛑 You know, I have a BIG Buck Harley CVO Ultra Limited, a 1972 Honda CT70 and a 2019 Honda Monkey. Folks ask me, “why do you ride those little bikes, just as much as your Harley”?? I always say, “those little bikes make me smile, as much as the big bike does”. 😀👍 It’s all about “smiles by the miles”!!💯👍
I just wanna let you guys know, someone on here cranked a navi to 71 on a downhill section with minimal mods and they're putting in a 125 bore and crankshaft. Moetorcycles i think? Check it out, they have a pretty unique build too. Navis really just want more play in the bottom range, you'll always peak out about 55-60 if youre a bigger guy, but the draw for these is an on-road/off road cruising bike for local commutes or wider country roads. If you guys want more power without sacrificing stock performances, just swap out your weights in the variator to 14s I think people are saying? The stock are 17 and you get about 2s overall better acceleration with the weight drop. I would also airbox delete and filter the bike, thats about all you gotta do to get max out of box from one of these. Happy riding.
My Navi got ran over, let down, 400 over the recommended oil change, and still went through high elevation climbs to Virginia City, modern carburetors are the same of yesterday
I knew what I was getting and just like you, happy cruising around at the speeds it'll do. As you said regardless of its speed the Navi is just a fun bike, it's quiet, smooth and simple. I'd take it over a big, complicated, expensive bike any day
I love the riding videos. The GoPro and 360° shots with just the sound of the bike, the road and nature. I’d watch hours if those if you’d make them. 👍
I knew its limitations. Loves accelerating up to 40 mph I try to stay off 50 mph roads near me . With the wind from passing trucks the bike gets squirrely at max speed . Happy with mine . Great video thanks for taking us along.
@@slowridersmotovlog201 I was wondering about Marbleheadjed that commented above me . 👍 I was thinking you lived somewhere around Twiggs in Maryland. No worries brother it's all good. That would be convenient if you lived on lake Erie I'd take a scoot ride around the lake with you guys.
I took a nice 30 mile ride today on my Navi. Now I have no problem going 70 on a regular sized bike. I wouldn't want to see 65-70 with the head and cross winds I drove through for part of the trip. The Navi really isn't a bike that should ever go that fast as light as it is. If you are heavily modifying a Navi trying to get it to go faster than intended, you're really missing the purpose of the bike. I absolutely love my Navi though. It's perfect for what I need it for. It's surprisingly punchy from 0-35. In city traffic, and sub 50mph roads, this thing is just perfect. Honestly, I can't figure out why someone would buy a Grom. They can do many things, but not a master of any of them. As a city bike, you have to do a lot of shifting because of the tiny engine. As a highway bike, anything at or over 250 cc is just far superior for safety and stability. So instead of a Grom for $4k, get the Navi, which is a masterful city bike, for $1800, and get a used Shadow, Ninja, Boulevard, Rebel, Royal Enfield, for like $2500 to 3k, and have both city and highway taken care of properly. For a little bit more than one jack of all trades, master of none Grom, you can have two perfect bikes for what you need.
@@adamrobinette6832 yeah I can’t see going over 50 . With the weight and small tires the bike gets too blown around at high speed. Great riding 30 to 45 !
(To be clear, it doesn’t fit my use case because I already opted for an electric scooter that covers this use case - 40-45, with bursts into the low 50s for city streets around town… the Navi looks better than the scooter I got, but love the electric for being quiet and having no engine vibration).
@@slowridersmotovlog201 it is a lot of fun. Its a CSC ES5. mine is the white and blue color: th-cam.com/video/SA-IcPAsnW8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=y-2qiT2qh03oXSpA
Every time I ride the Navi it impresses me that it seems like such a nice little bike for $1800 bucks and going faster than 50mph I think would be almost unsafe so I'm happy with 45mph for now plus if I need to go faster I ride an adv160. It should be even better now that I installed a Puig windscreen. I'm going to test it out tonight. Have a great day everbody . 👍
that color is sick. better than that drab green for sure. just finished up a 50mile ride on the xmax. my ass is numb lol. i cant wait for the comfort seat i ordered from Germany. Should be here this week! 🤞
I LOVE that color Blue, tempting, very tempting, but I have a slow Ruckus already, so I think I might steer clear from this and maybe check out the ADV160. Tempting. I really like this machine. I might pick up a Navi just to have in my stable. Too bad we can't get the ADV350 over here.
My Navi meets my expectations. That said, I'd like to see a Super Navi! Same styling, the ADV160 engine, fuel injection, and disc brakes!
Totally this. :)
Most definitely
The Navi looks like it takes the bumps a bit better than the Ruck.
My 450nk is a firm ride. You never get jarred but you definitely feel the bumps in a firm way. But because of that you get great handling in the curves... No sense of wallowing while tracking around a tighter curve.
The short wheel base allows you to turn slowly in a show (1-2 mph) tight turn without dumping the bike.
But it's a heavier bike. These Navis, Rucks, and Groms are much lighter in the 200 lb range and they are much more of a breeze to handle.
You can tend to relax more riding these lighter bikes at slower speeds.
Where as, when you get into the heavier bikes you can't casually allow them to lean over much while at a stop... they will likely overpower you and dump.
Gord
@@gorrdd it does do bumps much better
Loved the video thanks.
Good helpful review.
Nice countryside there. Watching in Australia
Got a Navi Nov '22, have 9700 miles on it and just love it! Great for around town and also trail riding in the woods, if you can believe that! Lotsa of narrow backroads near me, the Navi is a champ on those as well.
That’s very impressive. Yes I do a great bit of that kinda riding as well. It’s definitely an all around machine.
I got the exact same Navi in August. Same color and everything. Rode a motorcycle one time in my life when I was like 10 years old. Jumped on this thing and haven’t stopped! I zip around all over Mobile, Al. I love it! It was the best impulse purchase and have no regrets!
Very nice!! Congratulations on the Navi
Saved and got mine in august of 2023, just a giggle to ride. E-bikes hate us as much as the larger cc bikes do. WOT gas mileage is not the greatest but the cost makes up for it. I am willing to bet that 300 miles cost less than $20 in gas.
For me, this is a 30mph bike for best gas. Or if you are going under that you can really go far above the listed mileage. Also cheaper costs for tires is always a bonus. If you are confortable changing them it makes the whole thing under $200 if you buy top of the line tires.
The Navi is many things but it’s best feature is cost to own/maintenance.
Congratulations on the new Navi. You will save a ton of money with this bike
🛑🛑 You know, I have a BIG Buck Harley CVO Ultra Limited, a 1972 Honda CT70 and a 2019 Honda Monkey.
Folks ask me, “why do you ride those little bikes, just as much as your Harley”??
I always say, “those little bikes make me smile, as much as the big bike does”. 😀👍
It’s all about “smiles by the miles”!!💯👍
Most definitely!!
I just wanna let you guys know, someone on here cranked a navi to 71 on a downhill section with minimal mods and they're putting in a 125 bore and crankshaft. Moetorcycles i think? Check it out, they have a pretty unique build too.
Navis really just want more play in the bottom range, you'll always peak out about 55-60 if youre a bigger guy, but the draw for these is an on-road/off road cruising bike for local commutes or wider country roads. If you guys want more power without sacrificing stock performances, just swap out your weights in the variator to 14s I think people are saying? The stock are 17 and you get about 2s overall better acceleration with the weight drop. I would also airbox delete and filter the bike, thats about all you gotta do to get max out of box from one of these.
Happy riding.
Looks like an awesome ride!!
My Navi got ran over, let down, 400 over the recommended oil change, and still went through high elevation climbs to Virginia City, modern carburetors are the same of yesterday
I knew what I was getting and just like you, happy cruising around at the speeds it'll do. As you said regardless of its speed the Navi is just a fun bike, it's quiet, smooth and simple. I'd take it over a big, complicated, expensive bike any day
Very well said!!
I love the riding videos. The GoPro and 360° shots with just the sound of the bike, the road and nature. I’d watch hours if those if you’d make them. 👍
I like making those videos
I knew its limitations.
Loves accelerating up to 40 mph
I try to stay off 50 mph roads near me . With the wind from passing trucks the bike gets squirrely at max speed .
Happy with mine .
Great video thanks for taking us along.
It definitely gets a little squirrel when it’s windy
Do you ride around Marblehead on lake Erie? We camp at Lakeside a few times a year.
@@scottdavis9318 I’m in Maryland I’ve never been there before. Sounds wonderful though
@@slowridersmotovlog201 I was wondering about Marbleheadjed that commented above me . 👍 I was thinking you lived somewhere around Twiggs in Maryland. No worries brother it's all good. That would be convenient if you lived on lake Erie I'd take a scoot ride around the lake with you guys.
@@scottdavis9318
No Grew up in Marblehead Ma
I live in a rural area going McMansion .
Still a lot of nice country roads.
I took a nice 30 mile ride today on my Navi. Now I have no problem going 70 on a regular sized bike. I wouldn't want to see 65-70 with the head and cross winds I drove through for part of the trip. The Navi really isn't a bike that should ever go that fast as light as it is. If you are heavily modifying a Navi trying to get it to go faster than intended, you're really missing the purpose of the bike. I absolutely love my Navi though. It's perfect for what I need it for. It's surprisingly punchy from 0-35. In city traffic, and sub 50mph roads, this thing is just perfect. Honestly, I can't figure out why someone would buy a Grom. They can do many things, but not a master of any of them. As a city bike, you have to do a lot of shifting because of the tiny engine. As a highway bike, anything at or over 250 cc is just far superior for safety and stability. So instead of a Grom for $4k, get the Navi, which is a masterful city bike, for $1800, and get a used Shadow, Ninja, Boulevard, Rebel, Royal Enfield, for like $2500 to 3k, and have both city and highway taken care of properly. For a little bit more than one jack of all trades, master of none Grom, you can have two perfect bikes for what you need.
Great insightful comment
@@adamrobinette6832 yeah
I can’t see going over 50 .
With the weight and small tires the bike gets too blown around at high speed.
Great riding 30 to 45 !
My super Cub 125 rides at 55/60 no problem. You’re right though, it’s about the ride not the speed
That’s all it’s about 💯
I have a ebike that goes 46 and I just love it. I also own a 21 Harley Tri Glide. The Navi is a Nice bike for what it’s made for.
I *love* that blue Navi. So gorgeous. The Navi doesn’t really make sense for my use cases, much though I wish it did, but it’s such a pretty bike.
(To be clear, it doesn’t fit my use case because I already opted for an electric scooter that covers this use case - 40-45, with bursts into the low 50s for city streets around town… the Navi looks better than the scooter I got, but love the electric for being quiet and having no engine vibration).
That electric scooter sounds fun
@@slowridersmotovlog201 it is a lot of fun. Its a CSC ES5. mine is the white and blue color: th-cam.com/video/SA-IcPAsnW8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=y-2qiT2qh03oXSpA
Every time I ride the Navi it impresses me that it seems like such a nice little bike for $1800 bucks and going faster than 50mph I think would be almost unsafe so I'm happy with 45mph for now plus if I need to go faster I ride an adv160. It should be even better now that I installed a Puig windscreen. I'm going to test it out tonight. Have a great day everbody . 👍
I know your definitely having fun on both of those bikes
that color is sick. better than that drab green for sure. just finished up a 50mile ride on the xmax. my ass is numb lol. i cant wait for the comfort seat i ordered from Germany. Should be here this week! 🤞
Very nice I’ve always wanted to upgrade my seat for the Xmax
I use an air hawk on my x max works great also absorbs bumps better and a lot cheaper
Just made it back to slow riders moto vlog Dan, had a bit of a family crisis, but iam definitely looking forward to the rides ahead!!
Welcome back my friend. Hope all is well
I LOVE that color Blue, tempting, very tempting, but I have a slow Ruckus already, so I think I might steer clear from this and maybe check out the ADV160. Tempting. I really like this machine. I might pick up a Navi just to have in my stable. Too bad we can't get the ADV350 over here.
Most definitely lots of fun. It’s definitely a step from the Ruckus
Thanks!
Much appreciated
What kind of helmet are you wearing in this video? Love all your vlogs!
It’s a ILM helmet
I know you love this bike ,but how does it compare to the ruckus?
Just in speed. There both super fun!!
Ruckus tops out around 35 and is liquid cooled. Navi tops out at about 50 and is air cooled.
@@lauriewilborn5935 I can hit 42 on my ruckus
How tall are you? I'm looking into getting one but I'm 6' 190lb I'm thinking I might be too big for one
Just shy of 5’11 you’ll be fine
Thanks!
Thank very much