Thank you for the true and useful review, as always. Those paid journalist reviews only show the pros (obviously), but with your reviews we get to see some cons as well, and make informed decision on buying.
Have had mine do a average 48 MPH at 230 pounds but down hill can get close to 55 MPH so I'm going to lose 50 pound's to go faster lol. The low idea is easy to fix. Use the chock a bit for a minute and it's fine. The dim lights are just the low idea. Adjust it a bit and you are ok lol. I love the bike for the price. Don't like the mears but not a big deal. The breaks suck for sure
So it's a Scooter ad not a motorcycle? $1807 , is a good price for a Scooter made by Honda Motors. May work for me living in Clearwater Beach Florida Pinellas County.
You had me nervously unimpressed into that head wind only barely breaking 40 lol I had a ruckus with over 30 thousand miles on it that would do 43 on flat ground, but as you mentioned you had a heavy head wind which became obvious when you turned around, and I’m sure it will improve when it gets broken in a little bit. Looking forward to seeing everything you do to it and more importantly the trips your going to take on it 👍
My 2020 Ruckus is working overtime at 38mph top speed, 39mph downhill. 3700 miles. My 315lbs self doesn't help the speed lol. It's all stock, so may be time for Polini variator and some Dr. Pulley sliders. Was yours all stock or modded?
I have the navi , the first thing that I did was to change the front light and the dashboard light to led , H4 and a T10 and change the rear wheels , with 120/17 -10 for stability , it is pretty fun bike to ride , very cool!!👍
Do you have the new US-spec NAVI? Do you have any problems running the LED headlamp from the AC supply instead of DC? I'm thinking about converting the head/tail light to DC with a relay. Last question... do you have any clearance problems with the wider rear tire next to the rear CBS brake arm? That clearance is really tight on my bike. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Im sorry , I have the 2021 version from south america market but i think there is not big differences except for the brake lever on the foot. About the electronics you have to bypass the headlamp and connect it to the battery so when you turn on the key the headlamp and the dashboard light would turn on , also you can do this and put a switch if you dont want to work that way but i recommend you if you are not good with electronics to take it with an electrician, I dont have changed the rear light yet so im still pressing the brake to be "visible". Regardind the rear tire i think the maximun fit is 120/70 - 10 michelin citygrip , it also works the michelin S1 100 /90 - 10 because the space between the wheel and the engine is tight but is better to have a wider tire especially with rainy weather.
@@TheLeo6890 a wider tire in rainy weather does not improve traction it will improve dry handling but as soon as a slip comes if you do it's worse to break traction on a wider tire
Never really considered a motorcycle until this came to the states. I don't really need a motorcycle, but I need a bit more than a traditional scooter. I had a Honda Elite when I was a teenager and loved it, but not quite enough for longer drives. I think this is the perfect little boost over a scooter into a usable city and country vehicle. Freeways aren't my thing even when I'm driving a car/truck 50-55 is all I need for top speed.
Very interesting to finally find a true review, rather than just another call me "get hyped" video where some bozo goes on about how cool it is. As someone with basically zero experience on two wheels, this video brings to my attention all kinds of things that I would not have thought about. So, thank you!
So the navy is of course very inexpensive and that’s cool but for me, I would rather pay more money and get the cub because I would really want the fuel injection and lock brakes in the front gears styling and some of the other features that the cub has that the he does not, but it is nice that there is such an inexpensiveboat of transportation that will work, but I guess you have to tinker with it a little bit but if you get something that’s carbureted you should probably expect that a little bit
Thanks a bunch for your videos! Out of all the videos on youtube, you had the best in depth review. I ended up with a Honda Monkey because I found a lightly used one with a pretty considerable price, but your videos on the Navi helped me make a educated decision.
Glad to see what the Navi can do on roads Im familiar with!! Life long rider here, been eying the Navi since it’s surprise premier. Honda is always good about staying honest with their purpose built machines. Does as intended
Thanks for this video! I watch all of your videos and I'm thinking that the Navi might be a good first bike since it is really inexpensive. Looking forward to seeing the mods you're going to do!
If you see another green Navi in Katy, it’s me! Crazy as I watched the beginning of your video ( first time to watch), I thought the streets looked familiar, then I thought all streets look the same. Then I saw the monument and I was like, wait a minute. Katy. 🤘
I think might be possible to upgrade the Navi with some Grom parts!Like the disc brakes,front suspension... Looks like a pretty good and decent scooter to mod and have some fun with!
I noticed the wind pushing me around. I have ordered a wind screen. Would it make the Navi more sreamlined? I like the rearview mirrors. You can see behind you without having shift your body.
I would never get away with getting one I already have a Rebel 1100 NC700S both DCT and a 2022 Super Cub they are all very different and depending on what I am doing or going I pick the bike to do the job like touring Scotland 1700 miles with luggage on my Super Cub but for the weather it was a blast. I followed your cannonball run using your cub and had planned on using the Rebel for Scotland but after seeing your adventures changed to the Super Cub I am glad I did the pass to Applecross was a doddle on the easy flickable cub and the single track roads on the North Coast 500 proved to be very manageable on the cub.
Get a crossbar pad. Then you can install a Giant Loop Zig Zag crossbar bag. Windshields, check Spitfire and Slipstreemer. I have a Slipstreemer CF-30 on my Ruckus. And the Zig Zag crossbar bag.
So 45-55? Thanks! Unfortunately! Not fast enough? For highway use? Since Ohio has 70mph on a few state routes. Thanks! 50mph with wind, would be ok, for me That's about what i did, on a yamahaha 650, I used to have. THANKS!
I love your videos :) you explain things so well, and it's easier for me to understand. Could you please film the adjustments you make? I'm about to purchase the Navi, and I don't have any experience in working with motorcycles. I want to learn as much as I can about my first bike.
I'd rather bit the bullet and get one of the 125cc minis over this. I can see this working for very limited cases like city/ college commuting. Or a beach rental bike. The 125 bikes already felt anemic. Can imagine how this will feel going up hills
I KNEW you would get the Navi~! LOL I already have the trail 125 and adv 150, so I can't justify buying a third bike. But it is the perfect bike to have riding in an urban setting. That storage box is particularly useful for storing a chain and lock.
CF-Moto built a scooter in motorcycle clothing like that back in the 2000s. It had standard hand control brakes with no foot brake. But it was sold as a motorcycle. Thats where the problem came when they imported it to the US. As a scooter, that was legal. As a motorcycle, it was not. By law, every motorcycle sold in the US is required to have a right hand front brake and a right foot rear brake control system. The law as I understand it was to standardize controls because american bikes had right foot brakes an british imports had left foot brakes. They imported them to the US from 2006 to 2012 then some beurocrat took issue with them. I believe they were supose to recall all of them. I have one so clearly that didn't actually happen. But I bet that has something to do with the brake layout. Honda is selling these as motorcycles so they have to have foot rear brakes in the US to pass our standardised motorcycle controls law.
Well, all of the USA Navi's originate from Mexico, but they're not sold at Mexico prices! It seems like most people are paying between $2,400-2900 out the door at most dealers in the USA. Some dealers have been price gouging and quoting $3500-4,000 out the door, which is absolutely insane for a bike that has an $1807 MSRP. The dealer freight charges are heavily over inflated, and the bike prep coming out of the crate is super simple.. only takes about 10 minutes. You can watch my live unboxing video here if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/64QG635R7aM/w-d-xo.html . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Thanks, Mark! I was playing around with different camera angles and screen positions to make this video. It's difficult to figure out a good layout, but this seemed to work well. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Just found your channel tonight and plan on getting my NAVI next month. Enjoy your ideas to make it better and will follow your lead on updates and will get the luggage rack and windshield first.
I think the engine could be related to the Honda SCV 100 Lead that was made by Honda India in the mid 2000s. A real workhorse scooter with drum brakes and tiny 10 inch wheels.
No handle on the left side is a hold over from the original Super Cub. A mandate for the design was it be good for carrying a bag of soba noodles in the left hand.
Son's Wife's new Navi delivered Dec 31 at Shawnee Honda in Oklahoma. Tops downhill at 55mph and a Blast! Imagine a body like this for a People 250 with big tires, mid-storage and does 80mph?
Good point! I've never owned a Buddy, so I can't comment on their reliability or performance. The dealer and service networks here in the USA aren't the greatest for brands that aren't mainstream (e.g., the big 4 from Japan). If you own a Buddy, let us know how well it has worked for you in terms of reliability, performance, and serviceability (e.g., parts availability, dealer service, etc). Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
The Navi handles reasonably well for a small motorcycle (scooter). However, the small 10" rear wheel can make it feel a bit flighty in corners. It doesn't track a line as well as other mini-motos like the Honda Grom or Super Cub. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I'm 5'7" (170cm) with a 30" (76cm) inseam. My riding weight is around 170 pounds (77kg)... 155 lbs without gear, plus about 15 lbs for jacket, boots, and helmet. You can see my normal weigh-in at the beginning of this video: th-cam.com/video/H0-aQ-QNYHs/w-d-xo.html . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Highway duty is something that the Navi just can't do comfortably. My top speed is ~53 mph under ideal circumstances, but it's closer to 47-50 mph in most conditions. Fuel economy is another sore spot for most Navi owners. Honda advertises 110 MPG, but real world use yields closer to 75 MPG. That figure combined with the Navi's 0.9 gallon fuel tank means that I can only ride ~65-67 miles before empty. That's not great range for a commuter machine, and it's less than convenient for a run-around or delivery bike. We'll see if the economy improves after a carburetor adjustment and a set of Dr.Pulley slider weights in the variator. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Howdy, neighbor! The NAVI is a fun run around, but it certainly has its limits. I'll be giving away a brand new red NAVI on here on TH-cam in the very near future, so subscribe and stay tuned! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Congrats on your upcoming NAVI! I'll be sure to make videos for all of the upgrades and accessories that I install so other owners can see if those add-ons will work for their needs. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Howdy, neighbor! The NAVI is a fun little bike despite the carburetion glitches. I'll be taking my bike into the dealer very soon for the 600-mile first service. I'll have them check the carburetor and reset the air/fuel mixture on the warranty card, so hopefully that will resolve the idle problems that I've been having... we'll see! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Howdy, neighbor! The Navi is a fun little bike. I still need to dig into the carburetor and fix the air/fuel mixture, but I've been enjoying riding it even with the carburetion problems. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Howdy, neighbor! I bought my NAVI from Eastside Honda in Baytown, TX. They have been great to work with. I've purchased my last 3 bikes from them and I did unboxing videos for each one at their dealership. 😉👍 --QM
This looks like a lot of fun for a new rider like myself. I'm intrigued but worried its limited top speed would actually be dangerous if used to commute on a highway with cars traveling 60-70mph. I guess that's not its intended purpose. Also, being a CVT automatic makes it much easier to ride but wonder if I would need to learn how to shift a proper bike in order to obtain a motorcycle license.
Starting out on a scooter or semi-automatic motorcycle (e.g., Super Cub) actually helps a lot of riders get into riding more comfortably. Not needing to focus on shifting gears and smooth clutch actuation frees up the rider's focus for other tasks like balance, smooth power application, braking, cornering, etc. You can always transfer those skills onto other motorcycles later if/when you decide to move into larger machines. Some of Honda's larger bikes have the optional DCT (dual clutch transmission) that takes care of the shifting for you. It's available on the NC750X DCT, Rebel 1100 DCT, and the GoldWing DCT. The DCT feels completely different than a CVT because there is no rubber band slippage in the transmission. The transmission has actual gears (6-7 speeds), a chain or shaft final drive, and clutches that are controlled by the computer. You just give it throttle and the computer takes care of the rest! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard great to know about the DCT, the rebel was the bike im eyeing as an upgrade from the navi to a full size bike that can go on the freeway. With ABS and DCT I feel like id be able to be safe while keeping the same "chill" vibe that the navi is giving me
I just got mine today and it runs good I had no issues with it I took it out for a little test run I also took it out to check out the headlights and the signals at night it's the same thing it's a Honda scooter
Thanks for the feedback, Michael! I'll have more NAVI videos coming tonight or tomorrow... and plenty more over the next few weeks... so stay tuned! 😉👍 --QM
That's a good question! The CBS will only apply a certain percentage of braking force from the rear pedal into the front brake (probably ~30%, but I don't know the exact specs or mechanical advantage that Honda's CBS system uses). You could certainly brake with just the rear and rely upon the CBS for the front, but you would be losing out on a LOT of braking force. The front wheel(s) usually accounts for 65-70% of braking performance on any vehicle due to weight transfer and tire contact patch dynamics. The NAVI's drum brakes aren't spectacular performers, so you really need to use a lot of force to stop in a reasonable distance. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Howdy, Charles! Yes, I'm planning to take some road trips on the NAVI very soon. I'll start out with some 200-300 mile destinations and see how it behaves. My first few stops will be state parks for weekend motocamping. I'll be sure to record the journeys, and I'll try to do some livestreams while I'm on location. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
No, I didn't ride any faster than ~30 MPH with my daughter onboard. I would estimate the top speed to still be around 50 MPH with that load, but it would take a while to accelerate up there. I made several full-throttle acceleration runs up to 25-30 MPH, and it performed about the same as 1/2 throttle with only me onboard. 😉👍 --QM
I use a third-party application called Telemetry Extractor ( goprotelemetryextractor.com/ ) to present the gauge data that's recorded by the GoPro camera and my Garmin Zumo GPS. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Thanks, Kevin! My primary helmet is the Schuberth C3 Pro modular (flip-up). I have several other helmets that I use, including a new Shoei NeoTec II, but the C3 is the quietest one that I have. 😉👍 --QM
I was surprised at the speedo accuracy... within 0.5-1.0 MPH of GPS... that's really good! I'll skip the "Grom tuck" and go straight to the Thai method... flip-flops and all: th-cam.com/video/dChs5tM0xSc/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/wXAg_lBeLtM/w-d-xo.html !!! 🤣ZFG all the way !!! 😂👍 --QM
You'd be surprised! I've ridden 3-up several times with my wife and 4-yo toddler, so our combined weight was ~340 pounds. The NAVI handles it just fine! 😉👍 --QM
Howdy, Carl! As far as I know, the Navi is road-legal in all 50 US states. Some states have minimum displacement limits for interstate highways, but there are usually no restrictions for side roads and rural highways. Here is a link MN DMV site with some topics: dps.mn.gov/divisions/ots/mmsc/faq/Pages/default.aspx , and here: dps.mn.gov/divisions/ots/mmsc/motorcycle-license/Pages/laws-regulations.aspx . I didn't see anything specific regarding minimum displacement for highway use, but I'm still searching. 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard I'm assuming lime green. It will be a shock if they aren't. Thats what was pictured with no color options. Glad to see they are hitting the streets.
Yes, the Navi is classified as a motorcycle, so it requires standard registration, insurance, and an "M" endorsement to operate in Texas. Other states may have different laws, but I believe that most states in the USA now have motorcycle endorsements. 😉👍 --QM
Sure, that would be fun! I have a bunch of bikes ranging in size from 50cc to 1100's. A dual vlog with a little hog following a big hog could be funny as hell, though! 🤣👍 --QM
Howdy, Jim, and congrats on your upcoming NAVI! The delivery trucks are rolling early, so you might receive an updated delivery date from your dealer... that's what happened with mine. Rumors say that the grashopper green was the first shipment, and the other colors will follow in a few weeks. I just received a message on Instagram from another channel viewer who has a grashopper green NAVI, and he's right here in Katy, TX! It looks like Texas might be one of the first stops for the deliveries as they roll north. Good luck and Happy New Year! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thank you for your comment. I order a red Navi can't wait to get my hands on it. I have five scooter's. One 1985 spree and four yamaha c3. This hobby of mine is getting a little expensive 🙃 lol. All bike's are in showroom condition..
@@jimkopenkoskey7337 Nice collection! I also have a silver 2007 Yamaha C3 in the stable. The C3 is a great little scoot, but it's a bit limited on power to compete with Houston's crazy cagers. I also had a black 1986 Honda Spree back in the day... bought it new in cash because I liked the look of it. It was my 3rd concurrent bike at the time, so it wasn't my daily rider. I ended up giving it to a friend when I moved to TX in 1995, and it only had 1800 miles on the clock. I still miss that little scoot. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Just by the smell of the exhaust and decades of racing and tuning carbureted engines. I haven't done the 600-mile maintenance yet, but that coming soon. I plan to reset the A/F screw and adjust everything after that first service. Hopefully, I can sort out this carburetor's issues... if not, then I'll re-jet or replace it with something else entirely. 😉👍 --QM
Thank you for the true and useful review, as always. Those paid journalist reviews only show the pros (obviously), but with your reviews we get to see some cons as well, and make informed decision on buying.
Have had mine do a average 48 MPH at 230 pounds but down hill can get close to 55 MPH so I'm going to lose 50 pound's to go faster lol. The low idea is easy to fix. Use the chock a bit for a minute and it's fine. The dim lights are just the low idea. Adjust it a bit and you are ok lol. I love the bike for the price. Don't like the mears but not a big deal. The breaks suck for sure
So it's a Scooter ad not a motorcycle? $1807 , is a good price for a Scooter made by Honda Motors. May work for me living in Clearwater Beach Florida Pinellas County.
Love the new camera angles , especially the one focused on the speedometer. Please do the same for your other rides as well
We bought a raffle ticket and won a Navi , we have had it for two weeks now, neet little bike
You had me nervously unimpressed into that head wind only barely breaking 40 lol I had a ruckus with over 30 thousand miles on it that would do 43 on flat ground, but as you mentioned you had a heavy head wind which became obvious when you turned around, and I’m sure it will improve when it gets broken in a little bit. Looking forward to seeing everything you do to it and more importantly the trips your going to take on it 👍
My 2020 Ruckus is working overtime at 38mph top speed, 39mph downhill. 3700 miles. My 315lbs self doesn't help the speed lol. It's all stock, so may be time for Polini variator and some Dr. Pulley sliders. Was yours all stock or modded?
@@SanProsan1993 stock, I only weighed 160 at the time, also run the tires a little over inflated
Man I got 40 mph on a 80cc motorized bike kit for $200
1986 prices: in 1986 Dollars
58mph 150 Elite - $1799
68 mph 250 Elite - $2299
I have the navi , the first thing that I did was to change the front light and the dashboard light to led , H4 and a T10 and change the rear wheels , with 120/17 -10 for stability , it is pretty fun bike to ride , very cool!!👍
Do you have the new US-spec NAVI? Do you have any problems running the LED headlamp from the AC supply instead of DC? I'm thinking about converting the head/tail light to DC with a relay.
Last question... do you have any clearance problems with the wider rear tire next to the rear CBS brake arm? That clearance is really tight on my bike. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Im sorry , I have the 2021 version from south america market but i think there is not big differences except for the brake lever on the foot. About the electronics you have to bypass the headlamp and connect it to the battery so when you turn on the key the headlamp and the dashboard light would turn on , also you can do this and put a switch if you dont want to work that way but i recommend you if you are not good with electronics to take it with an electrician, I dont have changed the rear light yet so im still pressing the brake to be "visible". Regardind the rear tire i think the maximun fit is 120/70 - 10 michelin citygrip , it also works the michelin S1 100 /90 - 10 because the space between the wheel and the engine is tight but is better to have a wider tire especially with rainy weather.
@@TheLeo6890 a wider tire in rainy weather does not improve traction it will improve dry handling but as soon as a slip comes if you do it's worse to break traction on a wider tire
This is the best english speaking complete review of the Navi.
Never really considered a motorcycle until this came to the states. I don't really need a motorcycle, but I need a bit more than a traditional scooter. I had a Honda Elite when I was a teenager and loved it, but not quite enough for longer drives. I think this is the perfect little boost over a scooter into a usable city and country vehicle. Freeways aren't my thing even when I'm driving a car/truck 50-55 is all I need for top speed.
Very interesting to finally find a true review, rather than just another call me "get hyped" video where some bozo goes on about how cool it is. As someone with basically zero experience on two wheels, this video brings to my attention all kinds of things that I would not have thought about. So, thank you!
So the navy is of course very inexpensive and that’s cool but for me, I would rather pay more money and get the cub because I would really want the fuel injection and lock brakes in the front gears styling and some of the other features that the cub has that the he does not, but it is nice that there is such an inexpensiveboat of transportation that will work, but I guess you have to tinker with it a little bit but if you get something that’s carbureted you should probably expect that a little bit
Thanks a bunch for your videos! Out of all the videos on youtube, you had the best in depth review. I ended up with a Honda Monkey because I found a lightly used one with a pretty considerable price, but your videos on the Navi helped me make a educated decision.
Glad to see what the Navi can do on roads Im familiar with!! Life long rider here, been eying the Navi since it’s surprise premier. Honda is always good about staying honest with their purpose built machines. Does as intended
Thanks for this video! I watch all of your videos and I'm thinking that the Navi might be a good first bike since it is really inexpensive. Looking forward to seeing the mods you're going to do!
I would pay $500 more if Honda put digital fuel injection and disk brakes
Shame on the dealership near me marked it up to $4500.00 out the door, Because the demand is so high.
If you see another green Navi in Katy, it’s me! Crazy as I watched the beginning of your video ( first time to watch), I thought the streets looked familiar, then I thought all streets look the same. Then I saw the monument and I was like, wait a minute. Katy. 🤘
Howdy, neighbor, and congrats on your new NAVI! Give me a shout sometime if you want to ride around sometime! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard for sure. Will message you on IG. 👍
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I think might be possible to upgrade the Navi with some Grom parts!Like the disc brakes,front suspension...
Looks like a pretty good and decent scooter to mod and have some fun with!
I noticed the wind pushing me around. I have ordered a wind screen. Would it make the Navi more sreamlined? I like the rearview mirrors. You can see behind you without having shift your body.
I would never get away with getting one I already have a Rebel 1100 NC700S both DCT and a 2022 Super Cub they are all very different and depending on what I am doing or going I pick the bike to do the job like touring Scotland 1700 miles with luggage on my Super Cub but for the weather it was a blast. I followed your cannonball run using your cub and had planned on using the Rebel for Scotland but after seeing your adventures changed to the Super Cub I am glad I did the pass to Applecross was a doddle on the easy flickable cub and the single track roads on the North Coast 500 proved to be very manageable on the cub.
Great video, I took motorcycle class last summer. Decided on a adv150 scooter but I saw this on the site today. cant beat it for the size and price!
Thanks for the feedback! The ADV150 is a great scoot, too! 😉👍 --QM
We asked “you gonna stop” at the exact same time.
You sound like Eugene from the walking dead 💀
Get a crossbar pad. Then you can install a Giant Loop Zig Zag crossbar bag.
Windshields, check Spitfire and Slipstreemer. I have a Slipstreemer CF-30 on my Ruckus. And the Zig Zag crossbar bag.
So 45-55? Thanks! Unfortunately! Not fast enough? For highway use? Since Ohio has 70mph on a few state routes. Thanks!
50mph with wind, would be ok, for me
That's about what i did, on a yamahaha 650,
I used to have. THANKS!
Be sure to tune in for the live stream following this premiere: th-cam.com/video/lJo_-nNilLo/w-d-xo.html ! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I love your videos :) you explain things so well, and it's easier for me to understand. Could you please film the adjustments you make? I'm about to purchase the Navi, and I don't have any experience in working with motorcycles. I want to learn as much as I can about my first bike.
Unfortunately the navi is a scooter frame so technically it's not a motorcycle
Really appreciate all the info and reviews. You now have videos on all the bikes I’ve been looking at. Thanks again! 👍🏼
Sounds like too many cutbacks to try to make this bike cheaper!
I'd rather bit the bullet and get one of the 125cc minis over this. I can see this working for very limited cases like city/ college commuting. Or a beach rental bike.
The 125 bikes already felt anemic. Can imagine how this will feel going up hills
I KNEW you would get the Navi~! LOL I already have the trail 125 and adv 150, so I can't justify buying a third bike. But it is the perfect bike to have riding in an urban setting. That storage box is particularly useful for storing a chain and lock.
You have two of the best bikes “ love the adv 150 and the trail 125
Have you tried raising the idle to stop the lights from flickering. I had to do that to my 07 Vespa.
CF-Moto built a scooter in motorcycle clothing like that back in the 2000s. It had standard hand control brakes with no foot brake. But it was sold as a motorcycle. Thats where the problem came when they imported it to the US. As a scooter, that was legal. As a motorcycle, it was not. By law, every motorcycle sold in the US is required to have a right hand front brake and a right foot rear brake control system. The law as I understand it was to standardize controls because american bikes had right foot brakes an british imports had left foot brakes. They imported them to the US from 2006 to 2012 then some beurocrat took issue with them. I believe they were supose to recall all of them. I have one so clearly that didn't actually happen. But I bet that has something to do with the brake layout. Honda is selling these as motorcycles so they have to have foot rear brakes in the US to pass our standardised motorcycle controls law.
You got yours from Mexico???? Why was it $2,600 out the door? I thought mexico had 'em for $1,600 out the door.
Well, all of the USA Navi's originate from Mexico, but they're not sold at Mexico prices! It seems like most people are paying between $2,400-2900 out the door at most dealers in the USA. Some dealers have been price gouging and quoting $3500-4,000 out the door, which is absolutely insane for a bike that has an $1807 MSRP.
The dealer freight charges are heavily over inflated, and the bike prep coming out of the crate is super simple.. only takes about 10 minutes. You can watch my live unboxing video here if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/64QG635R7aM/w-d-xo.html . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard I’ll definitely watch it if I haven’t already. I’ve been binge watching.
Oh I really like that camera setup. Three visuals. 👏
Thanks, Mark! I was playing around with different camera angles and screen positions to make this video. It's difficult to figure out a good layout, but this seemed to work well. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
not sure but for me it holds some 80s vibe all over, like a new version of honda PX 50cc in a way and I like that the px was fun indeed:)
Just found your channel tonight and plan on getting my NAVI next month. Enjoy your ideas to make it better and will follow your lead on updates and will get the luggage rack and windshield first.
How do you like it so far?
How is your Navi experience going?
Wait, I thought these weren't going to be available until February.
I think the engine could be related to the Honda SCV 100 Lead that was made by Honda India in the mid 2000s. A real workhorse scooter with drum brakes and tiny 10 inch wheels.
No handle on the left side is a hold over from the original Super Cub. A mandate for the design was it be good for carrying a bag of soba noodles in the left hand.
Great Motorcycle
Flickering happens with my Chinese scooter. Headlight is fed with AC from the stator.
I love the carburetor.
Son's Wife's new Navi delivered Dec 31 at Shawnee Honda in Oklahoma. Tops downhill at 55mph and a Blast!
Imagine a body like this for a People 250 with big tires, mid-storage and does 80mph?
If you don't mind me asking how much did you guys get it for I am from Oklahoma, Edmond and I am willing to buy one from Shawnee if its a good price
Drums on both.. wow... dirt bikes don't even have that anymore. Lol
With the helmet on you kinda sound like Tony stark from avengers
Sorry I missed your recent posts Q
.like to get your impressions on the Benelli TNT 135
bad man - 85 - 50 ish here and raining - cant work on the bike now - watching mad people on bike videos now cough lol
Anyone considering this should also be looking into scooters, Buddy 125 goes about this speed and has underseat storage and disc brakes.
Good point! I've never owned a Buddy, so I can't comment on their reliability or performance. The dealer and service networks here in the USA aren't the greatest for brands that aren't mainstream (e.g., the big 4 from Japan).
If you own a Buddy, let us know how well it has worked for you in terms of reliability, performance, and serviceability (e.g., parts availability, dealer service, etc). Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Does it cost $2000?
@@juliebraden6911 You're not gonna get a Honda Navi for $2000 new.
I need one of those to replace my Chinese scooter. Can't get parts for my scooter now.
I just got the same one
does this thing handle corners pretty well or no?
The Navi handles reasonably well for a small motorcycle (scooter). However, the small 10" rear wheel can make it feel a bit flighty in corners. It doesn't track a line as well as other mini-motos like the Honda Grom or Super Cub. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Looks nice, thanks for the review and useful recommendations!
Picking mine up in a few weeks! Where do you plan on ordering exhaust and new variator and sliders? I can’t find any websites
Where in Texas are u. I'm n Pasadena and haven't got my navi yet
Your speedometer needle stays still, minds jumps all over The place
Honda had a recall for a lot of early Navi's to fix a kinked speedometer cable. Maybe your bike has that problem? 🤔 --QM
@@QuasiMotard ty
wow from what it looks like in your video, the speedometer is right on with the gps speed.
The engine was also in the first generation honda beat here in PH, 110cc and also carbureted.
It’s a sick bike , if I was u install frame sliders and wheel size and lights and get a yoshi or akrapovic muffler and u good💯
29:33 "need to attend my AA meeting: Accessorize Anonymous" 😂😂
With 3 "fill ups" I have averaged 95 mpg but usually 35 mph or less.
What's ur wight while riding this bike
I'm 5'7" (170cm) with a 30" (76cm) inseam. My riding weight is around 170 pounds (77kg)... 155 lbs without gear, plus about 15 lbs for jacket, boots, and helmet. You can see my normal weigh-in at the beginning of this video: th-cam.com/video/H0-aQ-QNYHs/w-d-xo.html . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Love the multi angle cameras!!
Slap a yfz450 or banshee 350 motor on it an let her rip
How tall are you, friend?
I am 5 feet, 7 inches tall (170 cm) with a 30-inch inseam (76 cm), and my riding weight is 170 pounds (77 kg). 😉👍 --QM
If you can post the type of LED lights you will place and the bypass video would be great"
I haven't done the DC and LED conversion yet, but I'll definitely post the updates on that project when it happens! 😉👍 --QM
Oh it tops out at 45? I was really excited but 55 is a minimum since I live off a highway
Highway duty is something that the Navi just can't do comfortably. My top speed is ~53 mph under ideal circumstances, but it's closer to 47-50 mph in most conditions.
Fuel economy is another sore spot for most Navi owners. Honda advertises 110 MPG, but real world use yields closer to 75 MPG. That figure combined with the Navi's 0.9 gallon fuel tank means that I can only ride ~65-67 miles before empty. That's not great range for a commuter machine, and it's less than convenient for a run-around or delivery bike.
We'll see if the economy improves after a carburetor adjustment and a set of Dr.Pulley slider weights in the variator. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Shout out from Katy texas! Looking at getting a Navi. Love my fz07
Howdy, neighbor! The NAVI is a fun run around, but it certainly has its limits. I'll be giving away a brand new red NAVI on here on TH-cam in the very near future, so subscribe and stay tuned! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Please make a video on the windshield install. A video on the LED lights install would be nice, also. Thanks.
I am waiting on my Nut Brown one.
Congrats on your upcoming NAVI! I'll be sure to make videos for all of the upgrades and accessories that I install so other owners can see if those add-ons will work for their needs. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Hi I'm 17 years old and im currently looking into getting my first motorcycle/scooter and honestly this review was very helpful thank you.
Thanks for the feedback, and I hope you find a good fit for a motorcycle or scooter soon! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Was considering the Navi and opened this video to see you puttering around my neighborhood! Small world.
Howdy, neighbor! The NAVI is a fun little bike despite the carburetion glitches. I'll be taking my bike into the dealer very soon for the 600-mile first service. I'll have them check the carburetor and reset the air/fuel mixture on the warranty card, so hopefully that will resolve the idle problems that I've been having... we'll see! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
probably the best review I've seen of the Navi here on youtube. plus, it's great to know we live in the same town🙌🏼
Howdy, neighbor! The Navi is a fun little bike. I still need to dig into the carburetor and fix the air/fuel mixture, but I've been enjoying riding it even with the carburetion problems. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Bush park?! Your right down the road, what dealership did you find this at?
Howdy, neighbor! I bought my NAVI from Eastside Honda in Baytown, TX. They have been great to work with. I've purchased my last 3 bikes from them and I did unboxing videos for each one at their dealership. 😉👍 --QM
Does the Navi require motorcycle licenses and do you have to register and insure it ?
Yes, the Navi is classified as a motorcycle, so it requires registration and insurance. 😉👍 --QM
how much is this out the door after all dealer fees and crazy charges?
Mine was 3300 out the door
This looks like a lot of fun for a new rider like myself. I'm intrigued but worried its limited top speed would actually be dangerous if used to commute on a highway with cars traveling 60-70mph. I guess that's not its intended purpose. Also, being a CVT automatic makes it much easier to ride but wonder if I would need to learn how to shift a proper bike in order to obtain a motorcycle license.
Starting out on a scooter or semi-automatic motorcycle (e.g., Super Cub) actually helps a lot of riders get into riding more comfortably. Not needing to focus on shifting gears and smooth clutch actuation frees up the rider's focus for other tasks like balance, smooth power application, braking, cornering, etc. You can always transfer those skills onto other motorcycles later if/when you decide to move into larger machines.
Some of Honda's larger bikes have the optional DCT (dual clutch transmission) that takes care of the shifting for you. It's available on the NC750X DCT, Rebel 1100 DCT, and the GoldWing DCT. The DCT feels completely different than a CVT because there is no rubber band slippage in the transmission. The transmission has actual gears (6-7 speeds), a chain or shaft final drive, and clutches that are controlled by the computer. You just give it throttle and the computer takes care of the rest! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard great to know about the DCT, the rebel was the bike im eyeing as an upgrade from the navi to a full size bike that can go on the freeway. With ABS and DCT I feel like id be able to be safe while keeping the same "chill" vibe that the navi is giving me
Cuanto cuestan los kits plásticos para la navi
I just got mine today and it runs good I had no issues with it I took it out for a little test run I also took it out to check out the headlights and the signals at night it's the same thing it's a Honda scooter
Congrats on you new NAVI! 😉👍 --QM
Great video!!
Thanks for the feedback, Michael! I'll have more NAVI videos coming tonight or tomorrow... and plenty more over the next few weeks... so stay tuned! 😉👍 --QM
I'll stick with my gas Grom
When you get a exhaust will you need to rejet
Since you brought up the floppy lever issue,for the Navi can you get away with using only one brake,since both brake lever and pedal are linked?
That's a good question! The CBS will only apply a certain percentage of braking force from the rear pedal into the front brake (probably ~30%, but I don't know the exact specs or mechanical advantage that Honda's CBS system uses).
You could certainly brake with just the rear and rely upon the CBS for the front, but you would be losing out on a LOT of braking force. The front wheel(s) usually accounts for 65-70% of braking performance on any vehicle due to weight transfer and tire contact patch dynamics. The NAVI's drum brakes aren't spectacular performers, so you really need to use a lot of force to stop in a reasonable distance. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Best camera angles!!!!! Great experience.
Thanks for the feeback! I'll try to incorporate multiple camera angles in more videos in the near future. Cheesr! 😉👍 --QM
Like your super in,are you planning some long trips on your new bike
Howdy, Charles! Yes, I'm planning to take some road trips on the NAVI very soon. I'll start out with some 200-300 mile destinations and see how it behaves. My first few stops will be state parks for weekend motocamping. I'll be sure to record the journeys, and I'll try to do some livestreams while I'm on location. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Hi , when you were loaded with you family did you notice what the top speed was ?
No, I didn't ride any faster than ~30 MPH with my daughter onboard. I would estimate the top speed to still be around 50 MPH with that load, but it would take a while to accelerate up there. I made several full-throttle acceleration runs up to 25-30 MPH, and it performed about the same as 1/2 throttle with only me onboard. 😉👍 --QM
What app (or hardware) do you use to record gps speed, lean, etc?
I use a third-party application called Telemetry Extractor ( goprotelemetryextractor.com/ ) to present the gauge data that's recorded by the GoPro camera and my Garmin Zumo GPS. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I really enjoy your videos! What brand of helmet is that!
Thanks, Kevin! My primary helmet is the Schuberth C3 Pro modular (flip-up). I have several other helmets that I use, including a new Shoei NeoTec II, but the C3 is the quietest one that I have. 😉👍 --QM
A A Meeting....funny
how high is the seat? I'm 5'8" 28" inseam will that little fella fit me?
Yep, I'm about the same size and I don't have any problems reaching the ground. 👍--QM
I think you’ll need to master the grom tuck for 55 mph lol. Good to know the Speedo isn’t too inaccurate.
I was surprised at the speedo accuracy... within 0.5-1.0 MPH of GPS... that's really good! I'll skip the "Grom tuck" and go straight to the Thai method... flip-flops and all: th-cam.com/video/dChs5tM0xSc/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/wXAg_lBeLtM/w-d-xo.html !!! 🤣ZFG all the way !!! 😂👍 --QM
price is great but at 300 pounds I would crush it
You'd be surprised! I've ridden 3-up several times with my wife and 4-yo toddler, so our combined weight was ~340 pounds. The NAVI handles it just fine! 😉👍 --QM
Does anyone know if these are highway legal in MN? Surprisingly hard to find answers for it
Howdy, Carl! As far as I know, the Navi is road-legal in all 50 US states. Some states have minimum displacement limits for interstate highways, but there are usually no restrictions for side roads and rural highways. Here is a link MN DMV site with some topics: dps.mn.gov/divisions/ots/mmsc/faq/Pages/default.aspx , and here: dps.mn.gov/divisions/ots/mmsc/motorcycle-license/Pages/laws-regulations.aspx . I didn't see anything specific regarding minimum displacement for highway use, but I'm still searching. 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thank you so much! Looks like I'm going to buy one, and because I weigh 135 pounds I think I'll get quite a bit out of it :D
I have 2 ordered. Supposed to ship January 4th. Whatever that means lol.
Congrats! Which color(s) did you request? 👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard I'm assuming lime green. It will be a shock if they aren't. Thats what was pictured with no color options. Glad to see they are hitting the streets.
fun little bike,enjoy.
Do you need a motorcycle license for this
Yes, the Navi is classified as a motorcycle, so it requires standard registration, insurance, and an "M" endorsement to operate in Texas. Other states may have different laws, but I believe that most states in the USA now have motorcycle endorsements. 😉👍 --QM
Great video. Looking forward to more.
Dude.. I live in the Houston area.. would love to meet up and do a duel vlog.. you on my Dyna me on one of your small cc bike. Love you stuff man
Sure, that would be fun! I have a bunch of bikes ranging in size from 50cc to 1100's. A dual vlog with a little hog following a big hog could be funny as hell, though! 🤣👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard that was my thoughts exactly. You on Instagram?
@@truckinbiker Yep, you found me! @QuasiMotard on IG. 😉👍
Order my navi 3 weeks ago, up here in Grand rapids M.l. Dealer tells me I should have it by mid April?!?!
Howdy, Jim, and congrats on your upcoming NAVI! The delivery trucks are rolling early, so you might receive an updated delivery date from your dealer... that's what happened with mine. Rumors say that the grashopper green was the first shipment, and the other colors will follow in a few weeks.
I just received a message on Instagram from another channel viewer who has a grashopper green NAVI, and he's right here in Katy, TX! It looks like Texas might be one of the first stops for the deliveries as they roll north. Good luck and Happy New Year! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thank you for your comment. I order a red Navi can't wait to get my hands on it. I have five scooter's. One 1985 spree and four yamaha c3. This hobby of mine is getting a little expensive 🙃 lol. All bike's are in showroom condition..
@@jimkopenkoskey7337 Nice collection! I also have a silver 2007 Yamaha C3 in the stable. The C3 is a great little scoot, but it's a bit limited on power to compete with Houston's crazy cagers.
I also had a black 1986 Honda Spree back in the day... bought it new in cash because I liked the look of it. It was my 3rd concurrent bike at the time, so it wasn't my daily rider. I ended up giving it to a friend when I moved to TX in 1995, and it only had 1800 miles on the clock. I still miss that little scoot. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
How do you know it’s running rich?
Just by the smell of the exhaust and decades of racing and tuning carbureted engines. I haven't done the 600-mile maintenance yet, but that coming soon. I plan to reset the A/F screw and adjust everything after that first service. Hopefully, I can sort out this carburetor's issues... if not, then I'll re-jet or replace it with something else entirely. 😉👍 --QM
Rider weight?
I weigh 155 lbs without gear, around 170 lbs ready to ride. 👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard thank you