The key indicator to this problem is that everything lights up when you turn the key on except the gas gauge doesn't come up. Everything else does! So when it stalls, it's just like you turned the key off. You set there and turn the key on & off until when the dash lights up the gas gauge comes up, and then it starts. This was driving me crazy on my Ram 2500, and I was looking for a new truck when I found this video! It saved me the cost of a new truck for now. Bless you Cody for posting this.
My sister's Buick would start fine when it was about 35 degrees F outside. When it would get down to 25 F, she would have bright headlights, dashlights, dome etc., but no starter motor, or clicking, nada. So I wiggled all the relays in the box and it started fine. Had to do that a few times and now no issues. Feel like the cold contracted the metal just enough to no have a good contact plus a fine layer of dust/time. Just wiggle it, just a little bit.
OMG. I wish I would have Googled this months ago. You just saved me so much grief. I'm sure this is what my problem is. Damn thing dies at the worst possible times, randomly, but always when hot and always when going slow (like waiting in line at the dump scales). I thought for sure it was that other relay screwed to the sheetmetal right in front of the breaker box you opened up. Thanks soooo much for this video. I owe you a six pack of your favorite beverage!
I had the same problem with a 99 Dodge Ram Van 1500 with the small 6. I would drive and it would just stop. It was worse on hot days. I replaced all the relays to no avail. I purchased a used but low miles ECM and no more problems. Over heated computer is the problem. You described my exact problem. It would randomly shut down. Waiting in line or at a light. It was hell.
Thank you so very kindly I've been having a problem with my car heating up and shutting down and when I switch to relay wow it stay running for a whole hour and a half with the air conditioner on you really really really help me out I didn't know what to do I was getting ready to sell the van and now I think I'll keep it thank you so very kindly you know your stuff Tony Roberts thanks
I had the same problem with a 99 Dodge Ram Van 1500 with the small 6. I would drive and it would just stop. It was worse on hot days. I replaced all the relays to no avail. I purchased a used but low miles ECM and no more problems. Over heated computer is the problem.
I'm having the no-bus indicator on trip odometer, and diagnostic scanner says 'no link'........and gauges are dead...checked out all the relays inside and out...fuses too....Van had MCU changed a few years ago....hope I don't need another one.... Same vehicle 99 1500 with 3.9 engine...
...Thanks.....the Van has 220K miles....had a brand new MCU installed by Dodge Dealer in 2008, at 190K miles....Van is Driven very little and cared for well.....intermittent problem started 2 weeks ago....ran perfect before that.... Always the same problem, "no-bus"....I'm pretty good with electrical stuff....but with this new vehicle/computer stuff....need a high $$ Computer to troubleshoot it....all fuses and relays look good....even took the 'cases' off the relays and internals look and function like new....Junkyard MCU....no junkyards around here....and no transportation without the actual Van running....
Anyone with a Chrysler/Dodge/Ram/Jeep etc from 1996 1997 1998 1999 etc with the jtec style computer (the same ones in the '98 Dodge Dakota), there is a simple solution to the random rough idle and stalling issues. Remove the left torx screw on the PCM computer, add two washers and then replace the screw. Can do the same with the other side, but do them one at a time. The screw seems to be just long enough to eventually ground out a component inside the computer and cause the engine to stall out. Didn't believe it myself, but when I pressed on the screw there in the front the engine died and backing the screw out fixed the issue. On warm days or once the engine was warmed up, the thermal expansion must have been just enough to momentarily ground the component.
The auto shutdown relay I've replaced I replaced the computer and I'm still having the same problem once it cools down it'll crank and run and never shut off until you kill it and then it takes an hour or so to crank back up it's a 95 Dodge 3500 van trying to figure out the problem
My 2003 Dodge Grand Caravan 3.3l el keeps shutting down when it warms up but starts up after cooling down we replaced the battery, (which is when the van started to do this) but also have replaced the EGR valve and the relays as well as the full pump and had the alternator inspected which is good 👍 but it keeps doing it could it be a camshaft or crankshaft sensor problem or what would cause it to do this
Mines does exactly what you explain in the video it stalls when it reaches operating temperature 97 Dakota v6..could a bad relay be the cause of it to loose spark when it stalls??
My son has a Dodge B2500 that was doing the same thing. He changed a fuse & the fuel flow relay & it was starting fine. Went & changed the auto shut off relay but forgot to disconnect the battery. Now it is not turning over. Could this have caused an issue? He put the old relay in bit it is still not starting.
Thanks so much for posting. My '99 Dodge Caravan does the same exact thing, starts right up when cold but as soon as it gets to operating temperature, it dies. One day on the highway, after several hot shut off and cool re-starts, it wouldn't even start anymore, after which my mechanic diagnosed a bad ECM, which I replaced, so now it at least starts, but the same "hot shut off, cool off restart" issue persists. I replaced the Auto Shut Off Relay, but it the issue persists. There is also an EATX Shut Off relay, could that be the culprit? Would appreciate your insight. Thanks again.
+Timothy Bruneau - Did you ever figure it out? I found out a similar symptoms like yours and it was the " Ignition Control Module "... NOT the Coil, but the Module. When the Module gets HOT, it stop working because it's bad and it stop powering the Coil :((((. Try that first :D
And actually since my original post, my mechanic says it's the trans torque converter shut-off solenoid (didn't know there was such a thing). He says the only way to fix it is a new trans. Go figure. I'll let you know after trying your Ignition Control Module fix.
+Timothy Bruneau - I made a Video recently and could be 2 things. I also have BOTH Video made too. I would try that first... Don't let the Mechanic charges you something that might be simple :))))
+Timothy Bruneau - 1. For the Coolant Sensor, they this Video - Try a Bypass Paper Clip - Quick Test: th-cam.com/video/q0v1kbw7iJI/w-d-xo.html 2. For the Ignition Control Module (ICM) - Try cool it with an Ice Cube, you will know right away.... try this Video: th-cam.com/video/EsIZPXRpV1Y/w-d-xo.html
Sounds like a bad ground on the side of the A S D relay. Check for a bag ground on that relay circuit. Just saying. good video though bud. Keep up the good work.
Cody my 99 dodge ram 1500 is doing the same thing. Code reader spit out P0420 which was bank1 something for the CO2 sensor.my truck didn't have the relay fuse for ignition shutoff. Should i try it to stop mine from shutting off
I'm having the same issue on a 99 Durango 5.2 4wd. No codes, no check engine lights, engine runs good. But going down the road at speed it will randomly stall like someone turned the key off. Gonna try switching out the relay.
I live in Ethiopia I have 1984 dodge van v8 5.2 liter and the problem that I have when I pull the gas pedal the engine start shaking and about to tern off and slightly works but low power some times it turns of can you tell me how to solve my problems please
I have a 2000 dodge ram van that does this but also is giving me a PO500 code abs and brake light is on and speed dom isn't working is it the rear or trans sensor
How about 1977 dodge sprotsmen rv do the same this im going to check ✔️ that relay out see if it works because im having the same problem but it start right back up unless i hold the acceleration down it will stay on but if i let it go it dies ever time 😮
my 98 Mitsubishi galant starts good when cold but engine shuts off when warm are when I try to go up a hill ! could it be the same problem its not the gas pump are air sencers are cam senser I check those .
wow ! good intel ..my 2002 Dodge Dakota 4.7 shuts off after idling or running for an hour ! after cooling off for an hour it starts right up ! oh it has a new ECM computer too --advise please
+Five hundred 20s - By the way... It took me 6 Months to learn this trick, LMFAO !!! Funny, it will take LESS than a minute.... Yea, I was a dumb ass once, LOL
My Chrysler sebring doing that. Just poops out after driving avross town gets warm the temp ga. Days its ok but it knockscand act like its vapir locking. O power and dies
When mine cuts off I I found out if I put ice on the back of the computer it will start back immediately it took me forever to find out what was going on with this van I trace wires I jiggled connections. In the beginning of all of this I didn't know that it was the computer getting hot so while I was dealing wires and pulling fuses and looking at everything else it would have time to cool down I thought that I felt the problem by jiggling some wires under the seat but come to find out that wasn't what it was every time I thought I found a explanation for it the next time it would do it it wasn't that so finally one day I was checking the connections going to the computer and felt that the computer was very hot so for s**** and giggles I decided to put some ice on the computer well and behold it started as soon as I put the ice on the computer I still have the problem I haven't changed the computer out yet so I make sure I have a cup of ice in my van with me at all times yeah it's a little redneck but at least it'll get me off the side of the road
The key indicator to this problem is that everything lights up when you turn the key on except the gas gauge doesn't come up. Everything else does! So when it stalls, it's just like you turned the key off. You set there and turn the key on & off until when the dash lights up the gas gauge comes up, and then it starts. This was driving me crazy on my Ram 2500, and I was looking for a new truck when I found this video! It saved me the cost of a new truck for now. Bless you Cody for posting this.
You are the BEST mechanic fixer I fixed my 2000 Dodge van THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Possible Camshaft position sensor. Heat causes the element to expand causing a break in the circuit. Shrinks back when it cools down.
My sister's Buick would start fine when it was about 35 degrees F outside. When it would get down to 25 F, she would have bright headlights, dashlights, dome etc., but no starter motor, or clicking, nada. So I wiggled all the relays in the box and it started fine. Had to do that a few times and now no issues. Feel like the cold contracted the metal just enough to no have a good contact plus a fine layer of dust/time. Just wiggle it, just a little bit.
OMG. I wish I would have Googled this months ago. You just saved me so much grief. I'm sure this is what my problem is. Damn thing dies at the worst possible times, randomly, but always when hot and always when going slow (like waiting in line at the dump scales). I thought for sure it was that other relay screwed to the sheetmetal right in front of the breaker box you opened up. Thanks soooo much for this video. I owe you a six pack of your favorite beverage!
I had the same problem with a 99 Dodge Ram Van 1500 with the small 6. I would drive and it would just stop. It was worse on hot days. I replaced all the relays to no avail. I purchased a used but low miles ECM and no more problems. Over heated computer is the problem. You described my exact problem. It would randomly shut down. Waiting in line or at a light. It was hell.
Check the ICM (" Ignition Control Module ")
did the fuse fix yours too ??
Thank you so very kindly I've been having a problem with my car heating up and shutting down and when I switch to relay wow it stay running for a whole hour and a half with the air conditioner on you really really really help me out I didn't know what to do I was getting ready to sell the van and now I think I'll keep it thank you so very kindly you know your stuff Tony Roberts thanks
So does it cut off after 1 1/2 hrs?
I had the same problem with a 99 Dodge Ram Van 1500 with the small 6. I would drive and it would just stop. It was worse on hot days. I replaced all the relays to no avail. I purchased a used but low miles ECM and no more problems. Over heated computer is the problem.
I'm having the no-bus indicator on trip odometer, and diagnostic scanner says 'no link'........and gauges are dead...checked out all the relays inside and out...fuses too....Van had MCU changed a few years ago....hope I don't need another one.... Same vehicle 99 1500 with 3.9 engine...
Take the numbers off the ECM and get a low miles one like I did it is most likely it is burned out. Or try to find one at pick n pull.
...Thanks.....the Van has 220K miles....had a brand new MCU installed by Dodge Dealer in 2008, at 190K miles....Van is Driven very little and cared for well.....intermittent problem started 2 weeks ago....ran perfect before that.... Always the same problem, "no-bus"....I'm pretty good with electrical stuff....but with this new vehicle/computer stuff....need a high $$ Computer to troubleshoot it....all fuses and relays look good....even took the 'cases' off the relays and internals look and function like new....Junkyard MCU....no junkyards around here....and no transportation without the actual Van running....
Anyone with a Chrysler/Dodge/Ram/Jeep etc from 1996 1997 1998 1999 etc with the jtec style computer (the same ones in the '98 Dodge Dakota), there is a simple solution to the random rough idle and stalling issues. Remove the left torx screw on the PCM computer, add two washers and then replace the screw. Can do the same with the other side, but do them one at a time. The screw seems to be just long enough to eventually ground out a component inside the computer and cause the engine to stall out. Didn't believe it myself, but when I pressed on the screw there in the front the engine died and backing the screw out fixed the issue. On warm days or once the engine was warmed up, the thermal expansion must have been just enough to momentarily ground the component.
BaconNBeer 03 durango same thing ecu getting too hot
Thank you Cody the car guy!
Hooyea it did fix it...was my late fathers van i would not let it go..now its my daily driver
The auto shutdown relay I've replaced I replaced the computer and I'm still having the same problem once it cools down it'll crank and run and never shut off until you kill it and then it takes an hour or so to crank back up it's a 95 Dodge 3500 van trying to figure out the problem
My 2003 Dodge Grand Caravan 3.3l el keeps shutting down when it warms up but starts up after cooling down we replaced the battery, (which is when the van started to do this) but also have replaced the EGR valve and the relays as well as the full pump and had the alternator inspected which is good 👍 but it keeps doing it could it be a camshaft or crankshaft sensor problem or what would cause it to do this
Did you ever find out what was causing the problem with your van?
Didn’t fix my issue.
Seriously,Thanks for your help.
The dodge is also known to have ecu issues and will do the same thing
Mines does exactly what you explain in the video it stalls when it reaches operating temperature 97 Dakota v6..could a bad relay be the cause of it to loose spark when it stalls??
I have same problem on an 02 grand cherokee did you fix the issue?
Bad camshaft position sensor?
My son has a Dodge B2500 that was doing the same thing. He changed a fuse & the fuel flow relay & it was starting fine. Went & changed the auto shut off relay but forgot to disconnect the battery. Now it is not turning over. Could this have caused an issue? He put the old relay in bit it is still not starting.
Hey Cody, I'm having the same exact problem but on Ford F150 1995. However, I don't have autoshutdown relay. What could that be?
Mine is a little bit different. I will try this.
does this apply to a 2000 dodge conversion van also
Thanks so much for posting. My '99 Dodge Caravan does the same exact thing, starts right up when cold but as soon as it gets to operating temperature, it dies. One day on the highway, after several hot shut off and cool re-starts, it wouldn't even start anymore, after which my mechanic diagnosed a bad ECM, which I replaced, so now it at least starts, but the same "hot shut off, cool off restart" issue persists. I replaced the Auto Shut Off Relay, but it the issue persists. There is also an EATX Shut Off relay, could that be the culprit? Would appreciate your insight. Thanks again.
+Timothy Bruneau - Did you ever figure it out? I found out a similar symptoms like yours and it was the " Ignition Control Module "... NOT the Coil, but the Module. When the Module gets HOT, it stop working because it's bad and it stop powering the Coil :((((. Try that first :D
Thank you my friend. I'll try that. It's my back up van so I don't drive it everyday. I will report back after trying it. Thanks again.
And actually since my original post, my mechanic says it's the trans torque converter shut-off solenoid (didn't know there was such a thing). He says the only way to fix it is a new trans. Go figure. I'll let you know after trying your Ignition Control Module fix.
+Timothy Bruneau - I made a Video recently and could be 2 things. I also have BOTH Video made too. I would try that first... Don't let the Mechanic charges you something that might be simple :))))
+Timothy Bruneau -
1. For the Coolant Sensor, they this Video - Try a Bypass Paper Clip - Quick Test: th-cam.com/video/q0v1kbw7iJI/w-d-xo.html
2. For the Ignition Control Module (ICM) - Try cool it with an Ice Cube, you will know right away.... try this Video: th-cam.com/video/EsIZPXRpV1Y/w-d-xo.html
I'll try this with my 98 ram with 318 it's doing the exact same thing!
Help.... 2006 T&C. Cannot drive in the summer and ambient temp is above 65 degrees.
Sounds like a bad ground on the side of the A S D relay. Check for a bag ground on that relay circuit. Just saying. good video though bud. Keep up the good work.
Cody my 99 dodge ram 1500 is doing the same thing. Code reader spit out P0420 which was bank1 something for the CO2 sensor.my truck didn't have the relay fuse for ignition shutoff. Should i try it to stop mine from shutting off
Did you ever figure it out?
I have a toyota camry is that the same in a way
I have a 2004 sprinter van that does the same thing but it does not have auto shutdown relay, do you have any ideas
Will this issue also cause it to not crank over after it shuts off?
It's the exact problem I'm having, took it to my mechanic he couldn't figure it out. Luckily he is a money hungry punk so he didn't charge me.
My Nissan Pathfinder start well after I Drive it a while dies when I try to starter again I try to drive it again but it does not stard. Again?...
I'm having the same issue on a 99 Durango 5.2 4wd. No codes, no check engine lights, engine runs good. But going down the road at speed it will randomly stall like someone turned the key off. Gonna try switching out the relay.
I live in Ethiopia I have 1984 dodge van v8 5.2 liter and the problem that I have when I pull the gas pedal the engine start shaking and about to tern off and slightly works but low power some times it turns of can you tell me how to solve my problems please
my 95 dodge ram 1500 was doing the same thing after I replaced many parts finally I replaced the computer and that fix the problem
Jeeps with the 318 do that to man ! good tip ..
I have a 2000 dodge ram van that does this but also is giving me a PO500 code abs and brake light is on and speed dom isn't working is it the rear or trans sensor
How about 1977 dodge sprotsmen rv do the same this im going to check ✔️ that relay out see if it works because im having the same problem but it start right back up unless i hold the acceleration down it will stay on but if i let it go it dies ever time 😮
Will this also cause a 2000 3.8 liter dodge grand caravan to not turn over after it shuts off?
Or am I just having an electrical problem with the main harness as heat does effect wires
my 98 Mitsubishi galant starts good when cold but engine shuts off when warm are when I try to go up a hill ! could it be the same problem its not the gas pump are air sencers are cam senser I check those .
Check the ICM (" Ignition Control Module ")
wow ! good intel ..my 2002 Dodge Dakota 4.7 shuts off after idling or running for an hour ! after cooling off for an hour it starts right up ! oh it has a new ECM computer too --advise please
Ours was the Coolant Sensor. :(((((((((( . With a Paper Clip, I was able to diagnosed it. Once the Sensor replaced, it was all set :))
+Five hundred 20s - Take a " Paper Clip " and under 1 minute.... You will know :)))))))))! Here is the Video: th-cam.com/video/q0v1kbw7iJI/w-d-xo.html
+Five hundred 20s - By the way... It took me 6 Months to learn this trick, LMFAO !!! Funny, it will take LESS than a minute.... Yea, I was a dumb ass once, LOL
Hey it's Dee ok I've replaced just about all my relays but it's doing the same
Sir I really need help my van is doing the same thing I replaced the relay but it's doing that same
I have a ram 2500 v8 it’s run good but after warm it it’s shut off
2:01 kick start my heart?
My car was doing the same thing except it wouldn't cut off while driving,but as soon as I turn it off,it's a wait to start again
My Chrysler sebring doing that. Just poops out after driving avross town gets warm the temp ga. Days its ok but it knockscand act like its vapir locking. O power and dies
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I have a 2000 Dodge durango that shuts off when it gets hot...cools down then it cranks back up..I need to try this
Ours was the Coolant Sensor. :((((((((((
You don't even know if that worked you click baiter! Shame on you
When mine cuts off I I found out if I put ice on the back of the computer it will start back immediately it took me forever to find out what was going on with this van I trace wires I jiggled connections. In the beginning of all of this I didn't know that it was the computer getting hot so while I was dealing wires and pulling fuses and looking at everything else it would have time to cool down I thought that I felt the problem by jiggling some wires under the seat but come to find out that wasn't what it was every time I thought I found a explanation for it the next time it would do it it wasn't that so finally one day I was checking the connections going to the computer and felt that the computer was very hot so for s**** and giggles I decided to put some ice on the computer well and behold it started as soon as I put the ice on the computer I still have the problem I haven't changed the computer out yet so I make sure I have a cup of ice in my van with me at all times yeah it's a little redneck but at least it'll get me off the side of the road