4:26 "Lambo really is the Shakespeare of our generation, making up words as he goes." - Harstem, 2023 4:41 "Usually people who make up words just have a poor vocabulary." - Harstem, 2023
Mules harvest 200 minerals from minerals you would have gotten later but tanks cost 125 gas and 150 minerals, if you save a tank by repairing it to full then you've spent a quarter of it's cost on repair, you end up getting 120 minerals and ~100 gas back from dropping a mule that doesn't come out of what you will mine in the future, that seems like it's such an obvious play but i never see mule drops to repair, if you repair 2 tanks you're way ahead, I don't know how much time it takes to repaire two or more tanks to full but it seems like it's shorter than a mule's duration. Why don't we see this way more often, on top of that it gets you 'free' gas out of nowhere which could be really needed at different points during the game. Not having to spend 125 gas to make another tank will leave it available to make other units or upgrades and every unit you save by repairing only costs a quarter, that's stupid efficiency, I always think that Terrans don't take advantage of this stupidly strong mechanic, they should have SCVs moving with their army just to repair and block surface area to tanks and other mechanic units.
I think “theoretically” It would be a good play, but in practice I have noticed that tanks usually get targeted really quick, quick enough so as there isn’t time to repair. You also have to take into account that this logic is very optimistic, that efficiency comes IF everything goes perfect, if not well now you lost a tank plus a mule
Exactly, it might be useful for rushed bcs or a thor rush where scvs died but venn diagram of things worth repairing and things you can't send scvs for doesn't have much overlap imo
@@johndread6160 maybe for an all-in rush it could work where there isn’t a big army or economy big enough to support quick reinforcements, BUT the new issue here is that 1: the benefit of an enemy attack at your base or in a central position is that you got time to breathe(repair) after the attack is over, you here are at their base so even if you fly the BC or get the Thor out that mule is gone by then, probably utilized less than half its potencial time so mostly a waste. 2: if you have a high “quantity” army the enemy units have to deal with the rest of your army so the mule can get ignored, this is a high “quality” low quantity army so they’ll just think for two seconds and realize that there’s like two units and one of them takes half a second to destroy
Starcraft is a game of resources: minerals, gas, but also build time, worker time (potential mining), information and space. So if we analyze everything together, Terran repair mechanic doesn't look OP: SCV doesn't mine when traveling with army and repairing, so here are some losses. Mule is seriously efficient at mining, so its a very tough decision - to drop a mule for slow repair on important unit (one mule doesn't do it quick), or drop it at the minerals to get income boost and get macro advantage/catch. The real efficiency of repair is not only how much resources you're saving, but also how much actions it costs, and on the first place: will that repair get you an advantage right now.
@@true_xander You're absolutely right in a lot of what you say, I think though that if you think about what you're saying you'll see it reflects that what I said is right if you think about it a bit more. I didn't mean OP literally, I just meant a really good underutilized utility. Yes I think there are undoubtedly times that mules repairing is the right answer and the resources you save from that eclipse the resources you lost from the mule and you eventually get them later anyways should the game go long enough. Consider sending 2 scvs around with the army, an extra 2 that cost the same as 2 marines, they could be mining but as soon as they save one tank you've paid for 3 marines and get 100 gas for free. I think it's under utilised. You're absolutely right and starcraft is a game of mechanics and prioritization however at the top levels using this tool effectively would be very effective I think. Having the ability to utilize this mechanic is more about the skill of the player rather than the inherent value of this mechanic. I'm not saying to carry the same kind of SCV army you carry around when you rush a thor with your army, I'm just saying the efficiency and utility of having extra units that you didn't need to use a production building for is huge.
Me: Lets play a game - I give you words and two sets and you separate the words into the two sets. Chat GPT: Sure, I'd be happy to play the game! Please give me the words and let me know how many sets you want me to separate them into. Me: Words are: Protoss, Terran, Zerg. Sets are: "is imba", "sucks". Chat GPT: Okay, based on the popular opinion in the gaming community, here is how I would separate the words into the two sets you provided: Set 1 ("is imba"): Protoss Set 2 ("sucks"): Terran, Zerg
Cant confirm it: "Is imba" set: Protoss, Terran, Zerg (I would put all three words in this set as "imba" is a gaming term that stands for "imbalanced," and all three of these words are factions in the popular video game StarCraft, which some players argue are overpowered or "imba"). "Sucks" set: None of the words (I wouldn't put any of these words in this set, as they don't necessarily have a negative connotation or connotation of being weak or inferior. However, some players may argue that one faction is weaker or less desirable than the others, but it's subjective and not universal.)
@@xCrimLP Correct, tried again, it answered kinda differently. Protoss and Zerg IMBA with disclaimer text that its subjective. When I tried again and specified that I dont want any explanation/disclaimers why it did it, it put all the races as IMBA :)) You can also try clicking regenerate response and it give sometimes different answer. However, I think protoss was in IMBA set all the time when I tried :)
First game, you should lift cc, asap, and move workers towards opponenets base to basically go all in.. remember to return your last shipment of minerals... have teh CC, fly near the opponenets base.. or somewhere to theleft... slit off 4-6 workers to beginign mining again, the rest aid your attack.... Cancel the supply depot... etc. Other funny things is flying your buildigns and blocking their top ramp... definately winnable because zealots are so slow.... but meh.
@@dirkbester9050 im on board with that. But, to be pedantic, its a gg counter and not a politness sentiment counter (just doesn't have the same ring to it). Maybe we should start a petition to change it.
Suggestion 1: block a natural with a finished engineering bay and finish an upgrade with it. Suggestion 2: repair cyclones and hellions instead of healing marines.
The last game's dude had literally a clan tag "IKNOW" spelled in slang and the name starts with an abbreviation used for "Private Mercenary Company" - so, probably, he is from russia
If you wanted to be more aggressive and all in couldn't you just build 3 rax barracks outside their base for marines as a follow up to the 3 rax reaper with the minerals spent on the other buildings? If you already have map control with the early lead of the reapers isn't it completely safe and should push you over the edge with the drip of stim marines coming in super early?
I just saw someone's cheese and i think you should try it too. Depo then 1 rax and 2 gas fully saturated then orbital & tech lab on rax and factory. Starport, then switch rax and factory and research blue flame and produce 1 medivac and hellions. If you do it right, blue flame will finish just before you drop 3 hellions around 3:50-4:00 in your enemy's mineral line. You might be tempted to wait for 4th hellion but it's not worth it because the medivac will finish with the third. Also you might be able to squeeze an expo just before the medivac pops but I'm not sure
i'd like to think that i'm among those in the comments who isn't appreciated. feels like vicctree! like pausing with no gg to leave the game, such bm is the fruit upon which i gorge. i am truly evil. muha.. muhaha.. MUUUUUHHAAHAAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA WAAAWA WAAAHHAHAHA AAAAAHAHA AHHA HAHWHAHWA HWOHDJKFL OBSHJ CNIOo the sound of a branch snaps in the background as a ton of evil fruit falls upon my evil eminence, but because i am so evil, i just pause the game and leave. only after i've left, the evil fruit tree branch thing hits the ground with an earsplitting BOOM. but nobody was around to hear it, so it didn't make any sound at all. muahahahahaha *sips on $15 starbucks evil fruit juice to restore my evil MP* muuahahahahahaha hahaha
4:26 "Lambo really is the Shakespeare of our generation, making up words as he goes." - Harstem, 2023
4:41 "Usually people who make up words just have a poor vocabulary." - Harstem, 2023
Unintentionally (or intentionally) implying that Lambo has a bad vocabulary, lol.
@@Amoeby Good job, buddy! You understood the comment! Who's a good boy?
@@ahall9839 I enjoy your toxic behaviour.
@@ahall9839 where does all this arrogance and sarcasm some from? Did you have a bad day?
@@manthe3711 it would be more toxic to let these numpties have it their way
3:45 "Congrats, i see you in hell." Hahaha 😂
Mules harvest 200 minerals from minerals you would have gotten later but tanks cost 125 gas and 150 minerals, if you save a tank by repairing it to full then you've spent a quarter of it's cost on repair, you end up getting 120 minerals and ~100 gas back from dropping a mule that doesn't come out of what you will mine in the future, that seems like it's such an obvious play but i never see mule drops to repair, if you repair 2 tanks you're way ahead, I don't know how much time it takes to repaire two or more tanks to full but it seems like it's shorter than a mule's duration. Why don't we see this way more often, on top of that it gets you 'free' gas out of nowhere which could be really needed at different points during the game. Not having to spend 125 gas to make another tank will leave it available to make other units or upgrades and every unit you save by repairing only costs a quarter, that's stupid efficiency, I always think that Terrans don't take advantage of this stupidly strong mechanic, they should have SCVs moving with their army just to repair and block surface area to tanks and other mechanic units.
I think “theoretically” It would be a good play, but in practice I have noticed that tanks usually get targeted really quick, quick enough so as there isn’t time to repair. You also have to take into account that this logic is very optimistic, that efficiency comes IF everything goes perfect, if not well now you lost a tank plus a mule
Exactly, it might be useful for rushed bcs or a thor rush where scvs died but venn diagram of things worth repairing and things you can't send scvs for doesn't have much overlap imo
@@johndread6160 maybe for an all-in rush it could work where there isn’t a big army or economy big enough to support quick reinforcements, BUT the new issue here is that 1: the benefit of an enemy attack at your base or in a central position is that you got time to breathe(repair) after the attack is over, you here are at their base so even if you fly the BC or get the Thor out that mule is gone by then, probably utilized less than half its potencial time so mostly a waste. 2: if you have a high “quantity” army the enemy units have to deal with the rest of your army so the mule can get ignored, this is a high “quality” low quantity army so they’ll just think for two seconds and realize that there’s like two units and one of them takes half a second to destroy
Starcraft is a game of resources: minerals, gas, but also build time, worker time (potential mining), information and space. So if we analyze everything together, Terran repair mechanic doesn't look OP: SCV doesn't mine when traveling with army and repairing, so here are some losses. Mule is seriously efficient at mining, so its a very tough decision - to drop a mule for slow repair on important unit (one mule doesn't do it quick), or drop it at the minerals to get income boost and get macro advantage/catch. The real efficiency of repair is not only how much resources you're saving, but also how much actions it costs, and on the first place: will that repair get you an advantage right now.
@@true_xander You're absolutely right in a lot of what you say, I think though that if you think about what you're saying you'll see it reflects that what I said is right if you think about it a bit more. I didn't mean OP literally, I just meant a really good underutilized utility. Yes I think there are undoubtedly times that mules repairing is the right answer and the resources you save from that eclipse the resources you lost from the mule and you eventually get them later anyways should the game go long enough. Consider sending 2 scvs around with the army, an extra 2 that cost the same as 2 marines, they could be mining but as soon as they save one tank you've paid for 3 marines and get 100 gas for free. I think it's under utilised. You're absolutely right and starcraft is a game of mechanics and prioritization however at the top levels using this tool effectively would be very effective I think. Having the ability to utilize this mechanic is more about the skill of the player rather than the inherent value of this mechanic. I'm not saying to carry the same kind of SCV army you carry around when you rush a thor with your army, I'm just saying the efficiency and utility of having extra units that you didn't need to use a production building for is huge.
I really wanna see some more tempest rush, if you feel like it :) also maybe some 2 base swarm host maybe?
That first game, nobody expects the Proxier got Proxy'd xD
26:02 Harstem busting out the old Johnnie Cochran line: "If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit!" Managed to get OJ acquitted.
Me: Lets play a game - I give you words and two sets and you separate the words into the two sets.
Chat GPT: Sure, I'd be happy to play the game! Please give me the words and let me know how many sets you want me to separate them into.
Me: Words are: Protoss, Terran, Zerg. Sets are: "is imba", "sucks".
Chat GPT: Okay, based on the popular opinion in the gaming community, here is how I would separate the words into the two sets you provided:
Set 1 ("is imba"): Protoss
Set 2 ("sucks"): Terran, Zerg
Cant confirm it:
"Is imba" set: Protoss, Terran, Zerg (I would put all three words in this set as "imba" is a gaming term that stands for "imbalanced," and all three of these words are factions in the popular video game StarCraft, which some players argue are overpowered or "imba").
"Sucks" set: None of the words (I wouldn't put any of these words in this set, as they don't necessarily have a negative connotation or connotation of being weak or inferior. However, some players may argue that one faction is weaker or less desirable than the others, but it's subjective and not universal.)
@@xCrimLP Correct, tried again, it answered kinda differently. Protoss and Zerg IMBA with disclaimer text that its subjective. When I tried again and specified that I dont want any explanation/disclaimers why it did it, it put all the races as IMBA :)) You can also try clicking regenerate response and it give sometimes different answer. However, I think protoss was in IMBA set all the time when I tried :)
Harstem: remember when I won 2 premier tournaments in one year...
My brain: ah yes, the man who scored 4 touchdowns in a single game...
17:00 my inner Zerg is feeling the burn. Prediction: no gg.
Playing twelve pool, then no gg when you lose is a classy move.
13:35 the two time champion
We Kick Butt Everyday, Yeah
First game, you should lift cc, asap, and move workers towards opponenets base to basically go all in.. remember to return your last shipment of minerals... have teh CC, fly near the opponenets base.. or somewhere to theleft... slit off 4-6 workers to beginign mining again, the rest aid your attack.... Cancel the supply depot... etc. Other funny things is flying your buildigns and blocking their top ramp... definately winnable because zealots are so slow.... but meh.
Real question is, does a "wp" WITHOUT a "gg" at the end of the game count towards the GG counter? Maybe it's worth a half point?
Same thing, should count as a politeness sentiment equal to gg.
@@dirkbester9050 im on board with that. But, to be pedantic, its a gg counter and not a politness sentiment counter (just doesn't have the same ring to it). Maybe we should start a petition to change it.
Sometimes WP could be a sarcastic compliment.
So, the guy who BM'd (by pause-leaving) was Toss, where's your Toss-superior-manners now, Kevin!?
We don't look at bad mannered Tosses. We only look at the good ones. Because we Toss are superior and always are well mannered.
WHY WERE ALL THE ENGLISH CLASSICS WE WERE FORCED TO READ IN SCHOOL PLAYS AND NOT BOOKS? So true.. HAHAHHA
Suggestion 1: block a natural with a finished engineering bay and finish an upgrade with it. Suggestion 2: repair cyclones and hellions instead of healing marines.
why foes harstem look like the scientist from wings of liberty
The last game's dude had literally a clan tag "IKNOW" spelled in slang and the name starts with an abbreviation used for "Private Mercenary Company" - so, probably, he is from russia
Do a classic vintage cheese from brood war days: carrier rush
First game: who's cheese is it anyways?
I'd love to see more random cheese from you Cap
You're a content MACHINE!
Two premier tournaments? The Year of Harstem (TM) already came and went? I missed it 😭
(This comment has made me one of the few unappreciated ones 🙏)
Love your videos!
Second game, mistake is hidle medivancs not healing your marines asap... therefor hte value comes back.
Fun as always!
If you wanted to be more aggressive and all in couldn't you just build 3 rax barracks outside their base for marines as a follow up to the 3 rax reaper with the minerals spent on the other buildings? If you already have map control with the early lead of the reapers isn't it completely safe and should push you over the edge with the drip of stim marines coming in super early?
It's more likely that you would be unsuccessful against somebody who was remotely decent. But you could try it out.
I could use another archon mode. I think there is more potention with smarter build orders
"Yay i won (a) game with cheese" #Harstem
is there a sc2 we could all join in :)
Mass bunker with building armor upgrade
Question is just a regular menace think about the 50000 or more games he has cheesed
I just saw someone's cheese and i think you should try it too. Depo then 1 rax and 2 gas fully saturated then orbital & tech lab on rax and factory. Starport, then switch rax and factory and research blue flame and produce 1 medivac and hellions. If you do it right, blue flame will finish just before you drop 3 hellions around 3:50-4:00 in your enemy's mineral line. You might be tempted to wait for 4th hellion but it's not worth it because the medivac will finish with the third. Also you might be able to squeeze an expo just before the medivac pops but I'm not sure
Good to have a few no-GGs again :)
Hello Harstem.
Hello friends, welcome to another comment requesting a full video with a French accent.
Thank you for including us in the game!
i'd like to think that i'm among those in the comments who isn't appreciated. feels like vicctree!
like pausing with no gg to leave the game, such bm is the fruit upon which i gorge. i am truly evil. muha.. muhaha..
MUUUUUHHAAHAAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA WAAAWA WAAAHHAHAHA AAAAAHAHA AHHA HAHWHAHWA HWOHDJKFL OBSHJ CNIOo
the sound of a branch snaps in the background as a ton of evil fruit falls upon my evil eminence, but because i am so evil, i just pause the game and leave. only after i've left, the evil fruit tree branch thing hits the ground with an earsplitting BOOM. but nobody was around to hear it, so it didn't make any sound at all.
muahahahahaha *sips on $15 starbucks evil fruit juice to restore my evil MP* muuahahahahahaha hahaha
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