Guenther Steiner’s bombshell Haas F1 exit explained
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- One of F1’s most popular and longest-serving team bosses, Guenther Steiner, has left his role in charge of Haas. It’s a shock move that poses serious questions about the team’s prospects and future.
It’s almost unthinkable to imagine Haas without Steiner, as while the team bears the name of its owner Gene Haas, this was really Steiner F1 in all but name.
Steiner was the man who made F1’s strangest team set-up possible and became an unexpected star of the Netflix Drive to Survive series.
Steiner’s departure, with former director of engineering Ayao Komatsu taking over as team principal, has surprised almost everybody in F1. BUT there has been discontent bubbling away for some time now, and the situation had been coming to a head behind the scenes. Now, Steiner’s gone, and technical director Simone Resta is understood to be out as well.
There were frustrations with the way that Haas was run from the very top, and that means eponymous team owner Gene Haas, who has seemingly become apathetic towards his own F1 team and refused to invest in it.
Steiner and Haas disagreed on the team’s potential in its current form. While Steiner felt Haas needed steady investment over the next few years, as it had outgrown its unique multi-location, Ferrari-dependent model, Gene Haas believes the team has underachieved and does not need more resources or improved facilities to perform better.
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00:00 Shock exit
03:13 Steiner's team
05:30 The new boss
06:13 Haas's future
08:08 Potential sale?
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Has nobody told Gene Haas that he could just be the title sponsor of a team instead of running one if all he wants is a rolling billboard?
Was about to post the same. Haas Andretti F1. Sorted.
I'm pretty sure that Andretti wants his own name on his car
@@cr24sh I am sure he would gladly take some sponsorship money from Haas.
@@robh_ukEven Hass Red Bull racing will be fine. Even Aston Martin group was okay with it bafore Stroll came on board.
Andretti wants his name on the car as well as Cadillac.
I feel like Haas is the only team on the grid with no real vision for the future. I don’t know how they’re planning on improving without changing their operating model.
That is the issue: they don't plan on improving, because management think their strategy is correct.
Alpine / Renault would come in second in my opinion. Where is that team going?
@@mihakanzyani And also sauber. Their only goal is to stay in F1 to wait for Audi to take over.
@@lore-lv2yothat in and of itself is a future plan. They’re also trying to improve, which is why they’re pushing Audi to dump more money into the project so they have more to work with. Essentially, their goal is the same as Aston Martin’s: to be a title contender by around 2026
@@mihakanzyaniat least alpine is a consistently mid team, that could at least get them some sponsors. haas is always 15th or lower so not many advertising opportunities because their not shown
How did Gene Haas expect to move forward without any new investments
By being American cheapskate and pretend to know everything.
Gene believes in miracles
he want a brawn story
He doesn't appear to want to "move forward". Not sure how the current status quo works for him, but there we are...
Just like Boris Johnson when he was Mayor of London and then Prime Minister - it’s a play thing
dosnt need to the teams only there to advertise Haas Machine Tools worldwide
Gene Haas made it very clear from the outset that all he was interested in was a rolling billboard for HAAS. It was a shame then and it is a shame now.
Haas was a thief and had to pay the price. Not surprised that he still is though. Let’s hope Steiner can get his share of the team.. It was understood that Steiner was a partner with Haas.
A rolling billboard at the back of the field doesn’t get much media attention.
@@stephenlea5765 But it did...with Guenther Steiner as it's head.
At this point he should just sell the team to Andretti and try and make them their title sponsor.
@@cpcxgsrI wouldn’t call tax evasion being a “thief” When taxes are the government literally stealing the money you’ve earned.
Most detailed response video on the internet. Respect for speed you've pulled this together Edd and team
It's been a foregone conclusion for several months, since Steiner started making public statements that Gene Haas owed him an ownership piece. I think Steiner overestimated his popularity with the fans, and thought that would help pressure Haas. Clearly it didn't.
Ed ate the team 😂
@@vandalsgarage How this imbroglio may or may not affect Steiner is the minor issue IMHO. As others here have said, the bigger issue is the team and how it will fare. Gene Haas wants to run an F1 team merely as an advertising and marketing vehicle and is quite happy to sit at the back of the grid, which is unfair to the people who work for the outfit, especially Kevin and Nico, and for the sport as a whole. I, like others here, think Haas should sell the team to Andretti. They are racers and they would bring expertise and, even more importantly, ambition, to the grid. Gene can always reserve some advertising space on the cars since that is, in effect, all he wants.
I can't imagine having a boss like him for more than a week
Yes, Gene Haas seems impossible to appease.
@@CDNChaoZ Imagine using 99% of your time on the phone with him, trying to appease unrealistic demands. Hard pass.
I had a boss like him for a while. Overall an ok guy if things went according to plan but utterly useless if things went wrong. Which wasn't uncommon.
I fear all those talents are being wasted away under Gene Haas's disinterest in investing to move the team up the Constructors year after year... better to let Andretti buy Gene out and operate the team as a contender rather than a back marker... the team, not Haas, deserves better
As long as he does not smash my fucking door.
It pisses me of how a team like Haas whose owner barely cares about the sport is let stay, while Andretti has had to fight so much to try to enter the grid
Wouldn't it be fun if Steiner showed up in important position in future Andretti or Audi team. 😁
Other teams had a chance to enter when the last Concorde Agreement was signed in 2021 (during a time where the teams and the sport was suffering huge losses) - nobody chose to do that. Now when things are rosy again, they want a slice of the gravy train without taking any of the risks in times of uncertainty.
Absolutely... Gene haas clearly don't give a F about the team It's there for the Advertising ...And right now, thanks to his obvious lack of interest, it's also negative publicity
Gene Haas: wants to run a low-cost team.
Also Gene Haas: surprised he's getting below-average performances.
It matches their position in the machine tool world, low cost and under performing ;)
@@mtnbikeman85 The OC Chopper of the CNC field!
Gunther and Mattia making their own Netflix show where they just cruise around The Dolomites in Italy in a small, old model Fiat 500 and they'll just joke around in Italian about their time at F1 and how the grapevines are growing nicely this year to make their signature Foksmash & Sbinotto Wine.
It's all orchestrated and all comming together now.
I'll miss Guenther. One of the better personalities in the sport. Wish you the best mate
His personality is toxic.
@@activat0rzWhat about it is toxic? Do you perhaps mistake his bluntness as agressive toxicity?
@@Toykio He's an uncharismatic bully. At least that's the impression he gives off. You can be blunt without being rude etc.
@@activat0rz Uncharismatic? If that's a word you'd use to describe his charisma, I wonder how you'd describe Christian Horner and Toto Wolff lol
That's karma for Guenther, Gene and Haas after destroying Mick career. Even if Haas quit from F1 i won't miss anything from them, they totally deserve it !! No team treat their driver worse than Haas !!! Haas quitting F1 is justice for Mick !!!
I hope SKY f1 offers Gunther a position on racedays 😊
That would be AWESOME
Pathetic comment
I would prefer him to work for FIA and race control so we can end the inconsistencies and random penalties.
I would go back to sky F1 from F1tv that's for sure.
@@AlexNossib Steiner’s not the guy for a desk job.
Either The Race knew about this for a while or the script for this video was written at a really furious pace.
Most of the goings on in the paddock are usually known by everyone in F1 for a few days before it becomes official. Or at the very least, rumors are flying about. These guys probably caught wind of some news a few days ago.
Not like this is a shock so they could have had a general script written even if they hadn't heard any rumours.
@@DeathBlocks Ironic that you used the word shock when the first chapter is called... shock exit. 😄
But yeah, they had to knew beforehand.
@@ccramit I’m just here to be a pedantic and say there is no paddock during the off season. Sorry. I’ll see myself out.
The race team are fantastic journalists. So writing a script like this shouldnt take toooo long. But yeah the speed that they get reaction videos out is seriously impressive
Gene is literally the opposite of Lawrence Stroll. If he doesn't want to invest in his OWN team then why the hell is he still there? Give your seat to Andretti instead.
At this point Haas is just a wasted grid space... with teams that actually want to make things happen like andretti being denied it angers me to no end having to stand the fact that one out of 10 precious teams is just there to show up for sponsors...
Me as well. Haas needs to leave F1!
The drivers Magnussen and Hulkenberg are midfield drivers, but haas chooce the money out of russia and the ferrari dropspot with schumacher, haas is always mentioned that they fired him, but he was ferrari contract and not good enough, ferrari dropped him and haas was not his employer, but i think they need to sell and the fia needs to make place for a possible 11th and 12th team, the teams should not have any saying in that, ferrari saids the stop then well, so wat, don't believe it
Honestly, Andretti probably wants the same thing just to make money. Not real successful in motorsports and now wants to bandwagon on f1 finally making money after all these teams survived the past few years. He should have invested back then not now! I want to see real racing not what the American teams want to bring. I’ve watched f1 long enough to know, and I’m an American so there goes that.
It’s hard to understand why he doesn’t sell if he is not interested in investing. Such an elite sport with so few players it’s no longer a good fit to have someone there just to be a rolling billboard
@@Pedro285 because it’s making him money. This is why the sport will cease to become a sport because there won’t be real competition. This whole “show” liberty media talks about is bs. Just a way to sell more and give us less racing, which is why I tune in.
Haas' struggles/poor performances and Genes indifference to the team makes the "new teams need to bring value to the grid" argument by the teams look more ridiculous.
What they’re really saying is that “your teams addition needs to make it so that our team makes more money”
@@parkercrossland410Well yeah that’s quite transparently what they they mean
I agree and disagree, nobody wants another haas on the grid, but if it's acceptable for them to be mediocre every season, what's one more mediocre team?
@@ultrv_nostvlgia3639 another Haas team would actually be quite fun. 10 minutes after max wins you can still watch the heated fight for last place between them. I'd say that would be pretty entertaining, like an after race event
What an odd way to end Drive To Survive.
this is the team I'm told deserves to be on the grid more than Andretti Cadillac. It Would be wise for Gene to sell the team to Andretti.
He won't and it's he's team and there's nothing anyone can say or do. I bet you if Haas come up for sale they would block it from Andretti anyway as they done before. They don't really want him on the grid.
Shh, EU people don’t want to be told their precious race series can’t be called the “pinnacle of racing” if it’s a gated community.
@Ceece20 it's gated to keep it at the top of all motor sports. It's still the pinnacle and that's why almost every racing driver wants to race in f1.
@@chriscollins550 Yet your teams are literally bottom feeders. Andretti wants to compete and wants to spend money, yet teams like Haas get to coast along and spend minimal. Let them in and kick out Haas if you really want to be called pinnacle of racing sports.
@Ceece20 why it got to be Andretti? What's wrong with wv group coming in, how do they not bring the same attention. It's not my favourite team at all. Fia just can't kick someone out just because they aren't pushing development, that's against European sporting code that's in European law.
I'm surprised he lasted this long with HAAS. I thought for sure he was gone after season two of Drive to Survive.
Then Haas would of had nothing. No sponsor and just basic money that Haas himself puts in and that not enough to develop a race winning car. Haas wants one thing a big platform to advertise on.
@@chriscollins550 I looked at it merely from a performance perspective. Gunther would talk, but nothing changed. After two seasons, I figured Gene Haas would give him the boot. I just hope they employ engineers that can make a difference under new leadership.
@@InterestedAmerican but they won't because Haas is not willing to spend the money on new engineers and it's not just them. They been doing the same strategy for past few year's now and that's down to the strategy team bassed in America. They build a car around Ferrari part's but if them engendering team doesn't know how it works or how their car design must be to make them part's work then the car won't work as well because them part's don't go with that car.
@@chriscollins550
The truth is that Haas is no more American than any other team on the grid. As far as I know the only American associated with the team is Gene Haas, and other than owning this mess he does sweet f-all with the team. Zack Brown's level of involvement would make McLaren more American than Haas. And regarding "basing," all the team facilities are in the UK as is the F1 engineering staff. Engine and transmission are Ferrari and the chassis are built by Dallara, so the functional aspects of the team are more Italian than American. Shoot, if they sold the team to Michael Andretti, the team would probably become less Italian on net.
Gene really should just sell. Michael is already getting facilities ready in Indiana.
I remember on DTS, Geunter calling Haas needing money after a crash. Reminded me of a college kid calling his frustrated dad. Demeaning for Geunter, and no way to run a racing team.
WHO is Geunter ???? Take your pills dude.
It's even more annoying to me now that the other teams have been reluctant about Andretti joining the grid because they're not sure what value Andretti could bring to F1 and yet by the sounds of it, Haas are literally just there to make the numbers up so long as Gene gets money out of it. I could have sworn I remember reading at the time (I think it was in Autosport if I remember correctly) when Haas announced they were joining F1 their intention was to be a front runner competing for wins and championships. I wonder where that ambition went?
Worn down by reality.I guess.😢
You can't expect other teams to accept taking a pay cut just because one of the existing team owner is only there for marketing reasons.
If only there was a possibility to throw out HAAS in favour of Andretti.
It's all about money mate. Andretti in => pie gets divided into 11 instead of 10 parts => less money for current teams. When they say they're not sure what the value Andretti would bring is, they're really saying they're unconvinced the pie would grow so much just because Andretti joined that they'd get more money out of it than they stand to lose. And honestly they're probably right.
@@GeraldGamaeven if haas left F1’s views wouldn’t change. Instead they’d try to limit the sport to nine teams
@@user-tv9xd1uo6l not true, you are just guessing that based on the fact that Andretti is currently being denied a spot. It’s all a matter of timing, the current state of F1 has the sport with the highest commercial value than it has ever heard and therefore the dynamics changed completely.
I've always supported the underdog teams punching above their weight- Hesketh, Brawn and Jordan being fine examples. It adds interest to the grid.
IMO these guys had a good first three years but pretty much have not punched at all since Australia 2019.
2-3 strong weekends in 2022 is all they put together after focusing solely on that season for over 2 whole years with the added luck of having a correct approach to the new rules from the get-go, and they were on the same level of performance as Williams two thirds into the season, after Williams had a shocking start with almost everything wrong in their concept.
I think they punch way below their weight, with weight intended as talent and effort put in by their employees, who surely care about F1 to be working for such a mess of a company. Now could the same be said for Gene...
Haas hasn't punched above their weight for many years now, though :D
The only jab that HAAS threw was in 2018 with a P5 and every other season thereafter, them not showing up to a race weekend would have achieve almost equal results.
Haas seems uninterested in throwing any sort of punch.
A character like Steiner will be missed in the short term, though I believe he’ll land on his feet and probably flourish in his next role.
As far as Haas F1 goes, if Gene Haas doesn’t care why should we?
Steiner was trash.
@@S0RELOSER maybe so but he's the only reason people give 2 fucks about the Haas team
@@S0RELOSERSteiner is as famous as the other two drivers
@@drgbucks1 most people are morons. So i dont care why they cared about Hass.
@@pepepopo8367 so what. He’s clearly incompetent. How he got the job in the first place is a mystery.
Then again, most of y’all defended Frank Williams daughter when she was ruining his legacy.
This is AMAZING news. Gene Haas has come out and said, in writing, that the team hasn't been competing "correctly" and that everything that the team has achieved in the past under it's minuscule budget are nothing to do with Gene and all because of Steiner. So when the team inevitably craters next season he has no one to fire but himself.
First big brain move, grab the technical head who built the car that has been eating its tires all season and promote him. Nice job Gene.
The technical head got sacked too. This is the 3rd guy down the totem pole that got promoted
I don’t think it was this guy’s idea. Recall that Haas’ entire concept is basically just a slightly different Ferrari. It follows literally exactly the same concept as the Ferrari does, and the big problem with the Ferrari is that the Ferrari eats its tires. If the Ferrari eats its tires, and the Haas is basically just a white Ferrari, ofc the Haas is going to eat its tires too
Gene has Ferrari engines and computers….. he gave a lot and risked a lot trusting on Steiner to do the job. You guys understand Ferrari was fastest power unit last season right?
@@torocars9227 I don’t even think it’s that. Haas’ problem is that they’re trying way too hard to copy Ferrari’s concept. It’s no wonder that the Haas basically has all of the characteristics of the Ferrari but worse. Perhaps if they want their own way, they’d be at least a bit more successful
@@mrsoisauce9017 if you have all characters of Ferrari shouldn’t you at least be in midfield not bottom?
Gene Haas is the kind of boss to say : tell me what you need, i'll tell you how to deal without it...
not how to, more like i'll tell you to figure it out yourself without it
Gene has Ferrari engines and computers….. he gave a lot and risked a lot trusting on Steiner to do the job. You guys understand Ferrari was fastest power unit last season right?
@@torocars9227 You can have the best engine in the world, if you don't have the finance for a good base and operational structure (which is sh*t) you are going nowhere. That what Steiner told Gene all years and he is right. Seriously, there operation is NOT F1 level at all.
@@torocars9227 You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Without Steiner, there is no Haas team, Gene does nothing but talk.
And yeah, i Heard about Newman-Haas. The famous and successful team founded by Paul Newman and Carl Haas, not Gene Haas ! (that how Haas is speeled by the way)
As for Stewart-Haas, they did'nt see him for years ! This guy is just talking, nothing else. He should sell to Andretti.
@@torocars9227 And do you understand that the fastest power unit didn't win the championship last season, right?
Incredibly frustrating that a time with such low expectations exists but yet there's such opposition to Andretti having a place on the grid
They don't want competition for Max.
This is all the more reason why I want Andretti in F1. I want a real American team that is better organised and is should be actually capable of winning. Haas hasn't been very successful in F1 and lately not even in Nascar (Baring the Xfinity series championship with Cole Custer).
Andretti teams sucks just look at past decade of result in Indycar….. dont belie the hype , believe the results .
In highschool our first robotics team (which was THE "sport" of our engineering school) suffered badly because our main sponsor didn't want any other sponsors, they wanted to be the sole sponsor / aid for the team. they had a handful of engineers / people from their company who were mentors, but the team never had much money and wasn't run well, but we could never get additional help or insight since the team leader (who worked VERY high up at that company) didn't want any other companies or sponsors represented on our robot in the competitions and such. Our team HAD potential, but we were always restricted in many ways... Haas feels VERY similar.
I really feel for Steiner who is actually really underrated as a Team principle, considering the type of owner that Haas, he's done an excellent job in order to achieve whatever progress they have so far. He should be hot property right now.
There's no way you can judge a team principal from the outside. He could be a terrible leader. Or a good one. Netflix has made him popular but that doesn't make him a better manager.
On what basis? He kept a shit team from folding and that's it.
As the Race pretty much said on BBV10s, "you can have the best technical structure, amazing facillities and organization but it isn't worth anything if you don't have the money (investment)", saying that you're going to make a virtue of maximizing what you have and not invest further has NEVER been a stepping stone to the front in F1, usually its the stepping stone to a team going under or being sold
Ironically you need money to build amazing facilities and hire best technical structure, something Gene Haas wouldn't do
Making the most out of the resources that you have is the cornerstone of nearly every successful endeavour. I cannot judge who is right, Haas or Steiner, but Haas has the money so he will just have to make the call. Absolutely normal.
@@aslamnurfikri7640the video explains they have that all.
Gene bought Fastest power unit in Ferrari. Steiner just had to plug in the power and the team runs itself for crying out loud. All he had to do was something he’s incapable of … technical department and aerodynamics
Can’t blame it the drivers this year. Karma. This one’s for Schumacher .
Haas could be prosperous, but when your owner isn't interested in actually going racing, i.e. the literal reason for F1, it makes F1s reluctance to Andretti (an actual multi series race team) look even more ridiculous.
8:15 - This is why Haas is firmly against Andretti joining. Haas is the only US team in F1, thus it doesn’t matter if he runs in the back, the US media will cover them favorably.
If Andretti joins, that position is threatened.
Anecdotally, none of my friends/family (we are in the U.S.) that are into F1 are HAAS fans. McLaren and Mercedes seem to be the top two teams chosen amongst U.S. fans. A lot of goodwill for HAAS amongst American fans was lost when they signed Mazepin and basically put the Russian flag on the car.
@@ount252 Yeah, but still. Red white and blue are also the American flag colors, also french and of the Netherlands.
It’s still “the only US F1 team”. That has value. (I’m not saying it’s right to keep Andretti out on that reason, if this is the correct scenario, Haas is quite the coward for fearing competition. I’m just saying there’s an argument for it.)
Gonna miss gunter, he was a great character and very open to the media.
Steiner was the heart of Haas team and man who builded Haas to to glory in 2018 season
Glory? What?
Gene bought Fastest power unit in Ferrari. Steiner just had to plug in the power and the team runs itself for crying out loud. All he had to do was something he’s incapable of … technical department and aerodynamics . Heart maybe but he’s also the man pointing out drivers are its problems … not the case this year.
Another step in the slow march for Haas leaving F1. Haas keeps pulling money and resources away slowly, performance keeps dropping in relation, eventually Gene Hass will decide he doesn't want to be known as last place and finally just leaves. Probably leaving without learning the lesson he should have, that when you dont provide resources you dont get results. I give it 3-4 years before the exit. Once they see Audi as a new team consistently outperforming them for a year or two and incapable of understanding why.
Are you sure? So Fastest Powerunit that he bought isn’t enough ? Unfortunately Ferrari doesn’t sell Aerodynamic… or else he would have bought that too….
I’ve been waiting for years to see this happen. Bombshell announcement? Hardly.
The rocket powered mohawk video on this is going to slap
Assuming Liberty blocks an 11th team, the best thing for the sport would be Haas selling their entry to Andretti, but I can't see Gene wanting to sell to Andretti, knowing that they'd likely outperform what the Haas team has done within a season or two.
Selling why? Genes buying Ferrari power units and computer ? Fastest power unit in 2023. He’s fine with $.
I am pretty sure that Gene just wants a ridicoulus amount of money and that is the reason it has not sold to Andretti yet. Hasas is essentially just the value of the grid spot as the team itself has no real value with most of the work being done externally and most of the knowledge being external as well (at Dallara and Ferrari). But I am pretty sure Gene ist to stubborn to see that and is still waiting for that giant payout.
@@jakob.k_design Andretti is noise. Besides it’s a mediocre organization.
Good explanation and insight, as always!
Thank you.
Steiner did so much in getting sponsors and keeping the team alive while trying to appease an owner who hardly contribute enough for them to do little more then survive.
Gene bought Fastest power unit in Ferrari. Steiner just had to plug in the power and the team runs itself for crying out loud. All he had to do was something he’s incapable of … technical department and aerodynamics
Gone-ther Steiner
If F1 wants to grow, both financially and fan basewise, they need 2 American teams, not just one. That might increase the financial base even 30%. A win-win for everyone.
This vid was F1 fast! Kudos!
The best billboard for Team Haas was actually Gunther Steiner. They were talking about Haas because of … Gunther Steiner.
He made a part of F1 more “interesting” and will be missed!
Maybe Andretti hires Guenter as their TP as an added point of being a serious F1 team. It would also be nice for Guenter to have an owner that supports him.
Gene just sell the team to Andretti and let some Americans with actual racing pedigree represent the country. This is the first sign that Gene actually cares about the success of his team in a long time.
But he doesn't. He doesn't want to add anymore money to it and he just wanted a yes man who will kiss he's ass.
And how exactly does this show he cares? He refuses to invest and got rid of somebody purely for disagreeing with him and arguing for more investment. He doesn't care about the team, just his ego and bottom line.
how is this a shock.... if any company ever performed the way HAAS did, they would have fired the leadership years ago
He may have been entertaining, but I don't think it's unfair to say the team has underperformed in the second half of every season they've entered relative to the first. With the cost cap and ATR, there's no excuse for that anymore. If it wasn't now it would've been mid-season
Edit: it appears Gene just wanted a scapegoat. Right decision for the wrong reasons.
No changes will happen. The team will still be at the back till when ever Haas decided to sell it. He doesn't want to invest in the team. Haas wants nothing more than a advertising car.
Fair critique of his leadership. I would like to see the position viewed more like how the NBA values their coaches. The team principal/manager has their own approach; but In this case the team being the car and the driver. Give Guenther the Red Bull cars and the story is different etc. Your coaching won't matter if you have a bad combo of car and driver. Or in the case of RB, really good driver and machinery that is leaps ahead of the comp.
In short words:
He fired the guy that complained about his decisions*
Ans hired the Guy that will comply with everything*
Goodbye Haas*
It was nice knowing ya
I don't think anyone else could have helped Haas navigate the Fubar sponsorship issues, the 2020 season and helped keep them on course and viable. But I have also never felt that he was the guy to advance the team forward.
Everyone's talking about how good a personality Steiner is and not how he was as a team principal. He's just a meme.
You get it bro. Exactly just a meme. He want able to blame his drivers for poor results anymore. Niko opened Genes eyes.
I'm sad to see Gunter, his truthfulness to the media is going to be missed on the F1 grid going forward
Steiner will be at Autosport International at the NEC this weekend. I'm going. Its gonna be fun seeing everyone come up to him.
Well THAT was a long time coming!
Would love to see Guenther as boss at Ferrari!! 😂
Team bound to be last by will of its owner is not what F1 needs in a time where more promising team is waiting around the corner...
Clicked on the thumbnail before I read anything, and after listening to the first 10 seconds, I needed to hear it again
thank you for your service
Gene Haas is far too involved with the team operations even though he had no clue how an F1 team works. History has proven any boss with an authoritarian approach is a recipe for failure, and that’s for teams with massive investments like Renault. Haas had virtually no investments, and that meant they’re stuck in a limbo. It doesn’t matter which team principal they have, unless Gene Haas provides any kind of investments to support the team’s needs and let the professionals do their job, they’ll forever be at the back. The owner of Force India is the proven fact that if the boss let the professionals do their jobs, the team as small as Haas could rise from a back marker to consistently fight for the best of the rest. And that’s before the budget cap
Ahh yes. Nothing speaks America like micromanagement
Excuse me! You obviously aren’t aware of his racing background and success.. he’s also well known for providing his people with the necessary “backing and autonomy “ to run there teams. Steiner was given the chance to do so an season in an season out failed….
An how exactly did you arrive at your comments? Possibly with your handy dandy know it all crystal ball or the tried or true palm reader?
@@scottyskydog you do realize running an F1 team is an entirely different breed right? Gene evidently doesn’t even care about F1 as he stopped backing his team since the pandemic started. Heck even before the pandemic started, Gene reduced his investments by a lot and Haas’ performance fell off the cliff in the process. All he’s trying to do is to make his team successful and profitable with virtually no investment, which is about as ridiculous as it gets. Go through the history of the sport and you’ll see teams like Haas comes and goes because of that very reason.
Im sure F1 can bring in rules to regulate underperforming teams. The old qualify within 107% of the fastest car rule comes to mind. Haas isn’t that far behind though. Yet.
its so funny that haas has said 'theres no point in competing if were always in the back' but then tells andretti 'actually im ok with only running in the back'.
if the latter is actually true and this is good enough for him and he really has no further ambitions, then i wonder if steiner didnt leave on his own, realising that there was nothing for him to do except manage a team with 0 ambitions to move forward.
Komatsu seemed like part of the team/performance issues the last few seasons, so it'll be interesting to see how he does as TP.
Haas is the main reason why Andretti not being allowed in frustrates me so much. I know they'll take it so much more seriously.
DTS fans are crying so hard rn
Gunther fok SMASHED the fucking DOOR on HAAS 😂😂
sooner the kids get bored of dts, the sooner we will get f1 back.
lmfao😂
@@JohnWiku😂😂😂
The producers are prob crying too 😂
Gunther we will miss you ! Looking forward to seeing you in a new role ! 👏👏👏👏👏
Drive to survive will never be the same again :( Thank you Sir, for your service
It is beyond me why he isn't selling or choosing to coown the outfit with Andretti, who actually have ambitions.
Because he's making money. F1 is now like the NFL, MLB and even Nascar. You don't have to win to make money.
@@wingracer1614strange, I always thought that f1 was the sport that turned billionaires into millionaires
@@neo1711 It was but the cost cap plus the 200 mil buy in for new teams has made them far more valuable and profitable.
Hass should sell to Andretti.. Haas clearly is sending that team down the drain.
The Haas racing team probably want to be competitive and have people hold a better view of them but the current situation is that because of Gene Haas, they are just holding up a slot for a racing team that could be competitive and has that desire to win.
I was hoping there'd be an improvement in the cars this year. Hulkenberg has the record for the longest career in F1 without a win. It would be great to see him on the top step of the podium, even just for one time.
Even longer than the late Chris Amon?
Komatsu feels like the right guy for the job. The fact he was at BAR means he knows how running a successful under-resourced team looks.
For the last few seasons, the Haas business model has been
to cut expenses to a minimum and be there just for a full grid.
No wonder they did not welcome the Andretti team.
Andretti is a mediocre organization. Don’t believe the hype , believe in the results . Indycar last decade has been horrible for Andretti organization.
Well... Its something.
Best wishes Steiner, thanks for everything.
Looking forward to how this goes.
I like Gene hopefully he’ll still be somewhere in F1
Gene is the reason Haas f1 hasn’t gone anywherw
Gene wanted to sell his automation to Russia but when that hit the fan it was no longer a viable cost and he lost interest. He has not attended many races of late. I liked Steiner. Sell it all to Andretti and let's race.
Not guenther !! Who will be the drive to survive star now ?!
It will now be a comedy show featuring Ferrari.
@@sergeykuznetsov8291Meanwhile at Ferrari HQ: 🤡🤡🤡🤡
gutted but this might actually be huge for Guenther. bigger and better goals ahead
Before RedBull where RedBull, they were Jaguar Racing which was essentially Ford's works team. Ford ran them in a really restricted way, constantly interfered and eventually refused to put more money in. Steiner was part of that, saw the writing on the wall and walked away even when offered the top job. With Haas I think he really had a vision and wanted to do build something, but Gene clearly doesn't want that. Smart man and a smart move to just walk away at this point. Hope he makes it back with another team, somewhere like Sauber would be perfect for him.
Oh no, now Haas might not win.
Haas has a better shot at competing now that the shittiest TP is gone.
It's a shame that Stiner is gone. He got the best out of an extremely limited team
I hope we see him again in F1😔😔😔😔
No he didn't. He's arguably been holding Haas back due to foolishly mismanaging Haas F1's limited funds.
Steiner is the guy who fired Mag and Grosjean, saying they needed rookies. Then he fired Mazepin and Schumacher cuz “we need veterans.” 😂 Steiner is garbage.
Komatsu is one of the most popular people among of japanese motor fans as well as Tsunoda so that japanese fans will support Haas even more. although we miss Guenther Steiner also.
pity to hear that! after such hard work!
Good, now take a step further and sell the team to Andretti 😂
The problems with Haas go way deeper than the team principal, but this was long overdue.
With out stiner the team would have nothing.
@@chriscollins550without Steiner the team will have a chance.
@@quigglyz no it won't. It's the same people in the team and the only difference is steiner was fighting for more money and better investment, we're now HAAS has a yes ass kisser in management now. Yet Haas still won't invest in the team. Steiner couldn't make gold out of shit but he brought in major sponsors and development money that Haas wouldn't give him. Watch them sponsors pull away from the team now he's gone. Haas will still be at the back of by the end of next session and the session after that and after that.
@@chriscollins550 Just because someone was the right person in the past doesn't mean they're the right person in the present.
@@Yantrus no person will be right when they don't have the money to spend on the car or team. Haas has the money he just doesn't want to spend it. The f1 car is a cash cow and a walking advertising board for him and that's all he cares about.
It's unbelievable that a team owner can have such indifference in a sport like F1.
F1 will miss him
what a figure
hope he finds a role at F1
100% sure Gene is gonna sell the team to Andretti by next year
No he won't. Even when the team was at its lowest he refused to sell to Andretti. I don't think Haas even likes Andretti so most likely would look for someone else to sell it too.
He ain't selling. Losing races does not mean losing money in modern F1. He's not selling a cash cow that keeps going up in value
Not the off season news I expected, but I can’t say I haven’t wondered for a while if he’s the right guy in that job
It's important to point out that Steiner's tenure at Jaguar and Red Bull were not a success.
Christian Horner said in an interview that there were a number of 'old guard' people that had been around since the Jaguar days that caused a lot of problems and wouldn't change how they did things so he ultimately sacked them all. Shortly there after Red Bull started winning everything. Steiner was fired from Red Bull around the time Christian was referring too...
When Niki Lauda was made team boss at Jaguar Ford he asked, "are there any talented people at Ford?" And the reply was 'there's Günther.' Niki responded: "The guy lied!"
Gunthers a character and I hope he gets another role in F1, but it was clearly time for him to go. Haas need a new direction.
I feel like this was brewing for a while. Discontent from Gene Haas over Steiner seemed quite palpable.
But I don’t see the team making progress when they’ve only been standing still or going backwards for the last several years. I think this is how F1’s next back-marker is going to be formed.
It's so sad when team owners, of any sport, just stand by and watch with no real interest in improving their team. They stand back, get the tax deductions and advertising, and allow the team to slowly die a sad death - which is what will happen. However, he knows the current value of F1 teams and he may hope to make a killing on the sale - let's hope he sells. I have no respect for the man.
Beginning of the end for Haas?
Had it ever really started?
Judging by the comments and possibly the contents of the video itself, I think a deep dive on what Haas automation really is and how their brand operates within the realm of machine tooling CNC parts globally might be warranted. While exact financials of Haas aren’t possible for obvious reasons, we can back into a decent estimation based on market share. Their fiscal revenue won’t be quite that of Formula 1 according to Liberty 10k sheets IMO, but Haas Automation by itself likely does have revenue figures comparable to the entire Formula 1 portfolio. It’s makes ZERO sense for Gene to sell. Especially with the controlled fiscal environment right now.
This team in its current form cannot do better. It’s amazing it even competes at is.
Gene is one of the reasons F1 doesn't allow more teams. If more teams would be managed like this the sport would slowly but surely die
Good move from Steiner. Exit on his own terms and potentially save his career
I think it's safe to say that Haas might not make it to 2026 if nothing significant changes. There's no direction or vision and now the team principal that's held up the team from the start is now gone as well. I think in situations like this where the team principal and team owner work this closely, blame is ultimately shared between both of them for how messy this got.
Top level sporting teams are not only potentially big money but it’s a ticket too some of the most exclusive events and meetings. Not many people would know Haas without f1 and this gives Gene a big reputation win at the top end of business and society. Similar with football clubs, massive loss makers but you can have thousands of people cheer your name
I agree with gene. They proved a few years back this model can do good but since then they have been last. That’s the leadership not the model. Building your own brake duct isn’t gonna keep you out of last place Gunther. Hopefully he will do tv announcing. Have rated R broadcast haha
Teach him Dutch (he already speaks like 5 languages, what's one more?)and send him there, problem solved
On the other hand, look at what the other bottom teams are doing. Williams is spending as much as possible on facilities, Sauber is getting its own engine supplier, and Alpha Tauri is starting to use more Red Bull parts and seems to he finding genuine pace. That kind of investment/restructuring is very difficult to beat just with restructuring and better leadership
@@nelsonglover3963 not Alfa. It's Sauber
@@Hamisxaoh no, a small mistake!
I kind of think Komatsu is likely more responsible for the teams underwhelming performance more so than the principle.
What makes you think that
Who do you think was responsible for seeing the cars setup right? Do you really think Steiner is in there developing race strategies and analyzing data?
@@payamkhobdeh1471did u know haas in 2018 was 5th in the constructors and steiner was team principal that time? Obviously u dont
@@Mariushaas-zb4dm so what’s your point? Steiner is great and should keep or Komatsu is great and Steiner should go?
@@payamkhobdeh1471 steiner is good not great, actually haas would just be even worse then they will sell the team
I’m not surprised, two very different work ethics were bound to clash eventually, hope everything works out for him I think he’s one of the best in the sport.
From all his talks, i never imagined that he is a top notch principal. Commercial side yes he had his charms but the racing side of things not so much
He is a walking meme machine and nothing else. Unfortunately for the DTS kiddies, memes don’t produce race wins 🤷♂️