Kishore Mahbubani - Advice for China and the US

Is America Ready for a Multipolar World? 15 Nov 2022
Panel 2: The Global South and the "Rules Based Order"
Kishore Mahbubani, Distinguished Fellow at the National University of Singapore
Link to original video
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[@johnlee-yo8jc]

A HUGE fan of the GREAT Kishore Mahbubani!

[@lenkiatleong]

IMO, the main reason why China still labels themselves as a developing nation is based on criteria of the World bank and UN. The rules were made by western institutions and China is following them closely. Decades ago, those who made the rules did NOT see this coming that one day China or India could be so huge, developed, undeveloped, rich and poor at the same time.

[@ckokloong]

The world was never stupid. Last time, most part of the world is poor and weak so we have to act stupid. Now, we just have to be ourselves

[@adamiskandar5107]

Kishore's advice to China is to listen to smaller nations, but that is exactly what China is doing, in direct contrast to the US, isn't it?

[@appl2597]

That is not true! Before 2022, China under Xi JinPing has consistently asserted arrogantly that "only the concerns of big nations matter. Small nations are irrelevant."
Only recently has China started to shift and last month's CCP party session was the 1st time Xi JinPing talked about treating smaller nations with respect.

[@ChinaSongsCollection]

@@appl2597 You've clearly made that up yourself.
I can speak both English and (not yet perfect) Chinese.
And I watch both English and Chinese news regularly.
I've NEVER EVER heard they say what you said they say!!
Care to show us a link of this : "...only the concerns of big nations matter. Small nations are irrelevant"?

[@xdgao3015]

@@appl2597 you clearly imagined that! China has always been friend with the underdeveloped world, since the 1950s China already started working with the Southern nations on multiple issues and offered supports.

[@beastmode8203]

@@ChinaSongsCollection you're all pro China shills so your word is garbage.

[@ChinaSongsCollection]

@@beastmode8203 Just because I asked for a link???
I would have asked for a link EVEN IF it was another country (NOT China) he was attacking.

[@asdf3568]

China is not a liberal democracy. But it is a democracy where the local and regional leaders are elected by the people, and the central leaders are elected by their representatives. That might not seem very democratic, but neither does the US system of oligarchy.

[@commonsense5815]

Very good answer, un excelente respuesta, 很好的答案

[@djtan3313]

A most wise & eloquent professor.

[@wallacekatini3424]

Kishore ,a very powerful professor!

[@darrelsavage3148]

Mahbubani is very wise and give a very clear geopolitic views.

[@apachechief8250]

It is upto america ,china is for shared future for all humanity
win win cooperation ,no dominance no hegemony ,multipolar world ..whats wrong with that ?

[@beastmode8203]

We🇺🇸 will stay number one and there will not be a multipolar world and China will not surpass us or the world will be destroyed in nuclear Armageddon those are your only options.

[@djtan3313]

We can’t hv that, can we…?

[@hannah5245]

Don’t think in black & white terms. Most of life is a little in between, grey!! On all levels! No one is all good. Or all bad.

[@Userkzb20253]

China per capita ppp is still far below USA, 3.5 X lesser. As a country, yes it’s towering. But the people inside the tower are much poorer than Singaporeans on average. What good is a poorer white elephant in terms of real standard of living. When Chinese people are half as rich as that of USA, then the elephant is monstrous.

[@forgettohaveaname2954]

yes, China is still a genuine developing country

[@djtan3313]

Stats r misleading…

[@skydragon23101979]

But a poor elephant, is still a big animal. A rich mouse is still a small animal.

[@chankane]

US interest…. Are you sure what it is?

[@daniellee8720]

Simple - Everyone needs to sanction and isolate America. Trade in any currency other than the dollar. A weak America is the only guarantee for a world with much lesser conflicts

[@zenlei8258]

You must be naive to believe any country can sanction US.
US is self sufficient and can survive very well because US is among the largest food producer in the world.
China cannot survive without American market. How to sanction US ?

[@daniellee8720]

@@zenlei8258 and you need to read up more. America is NOT self sufficient, it needs its dollars recycled as the reserve currency. That's why it no longer manufactures but yet can consume from other countries literally for free by way of simply printing money. They also force countries earning US dollars from trade to park their money in treasuries or bonds. Japan n China have the largest holdings of treasuries (each holding just over a trillion). Japan is offloading treauries to buy back the Yen and defend its value
Countries like China and many others are selling treasuries and avoid holding dollars so that America cannot do to them what they did to Russia. Recently the American government had no buyers for its bonds. It is now the biggest holder of debt via the reverse repo. Think hard why China initiated the BRI? To make a land connection to its market in Asia so that American cannot choke its sea routes, mainly the straits of melaka. China is recycling it US dollars out by putting it in the BRi instead of using its trade surpluses to buy treasuries. And lastly its moving away from America and developing new markets because it has seen how desperate America is to choke China. If the American dollar looses its position as reserve currency, it will be forced to manufacture goods for trade and no longer have free lunches. Then there's BRICS and the clamour by countries like Iran, Saudi, Agrentina and many more countries wanting to join. And of yeah BRICS is floating an alternative reserve currency. Read up bro, don't be such a smart alec, be humble in you words.

[@daniellee8720]

@@zenlei8258 oh by the way, china venezuela iran and many others are sanctioning America. Not selling oil for example when Biden went on begging tour.

[@beastmode8203]

Try it and watch what happens to the world ☢️

[@daniellee8720]

@@beastmode8203 it will happen, the interest in joining BRICS will eventuate this reality. The world is watching western belligerence and sanctioning sovereign reserves of another country has guaranteed america's decline

[@gohsiewhau4819]

I recall some years ago,some western countries still offer hardship allowance for their citizens posted to 🇸🇬 🤫🙃

[@donaldjoseph3903]

Kishore loves China and defends China..

[@gohsiewhau4819]

He is speaking the truth...

[@MichaelRNYC]

He uses logic and evidence in his arguments in trying to show that China is not a threat to anyone in the world.

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

Fix your debts and inflation before criticise others

[@djtan3313]

Rightly so.

[@tonyseto5144]

I am strongly disagree with Kishore Mahbubani.