Mine starts out soft.. but gets hard when a steelhead bites. 😂 50/50 combo. Hard bead pegged up top and a soft bead just above the hook for that natural feel when they hit and as you guys said the soft one won’t affect the hook. 🤘🎣
SOFT BEAD FIX/TIP!! you guys were mentioning the downfall of soft beads not sinking as fast or being to buoyant. To eliminate this what I use is the smallest split shot I can find or fit on my leader (thinner leader=smaller shot you can crimp) and use that as the "peg" for soft beads. I'll crimp a small shot just tight enough where I can slide it if I need, then slip the soft egg over that split shot and bury it in the middle of the soft egg. The shot becomes invisible, doesnt affect the eggs look, however the shot gives the soft bead something to hold on as well as allowing it to sink faster.
I'm definitely going to try this. Thanks Ashton Cz. I'll use it in faster water where the strong current can mask the drag of even the smallest tin B split shot. If I hook trout I'll be a hero. If I don't I'll blame you. HaHa! Tight lines.
I have to second the lower two comments, A short segment on pegging beads with your little glass bead , (how to tie the glass bead) would be awesome to know.
I fish both. For me I fish I river that usually this time of year has a lot of wind. Hard beads if it’s windy. If not I fish soft. But I think also a factor that nobody talks about is how much lead your fishing. Great video, love you guys.
expense is a factor for me and hard beads are much less expensive. So, a small selection of soft, lots of hard and tie glo bugs as a third option. Love em all
Thanks guys , great tutorial .. I run both soft and hard at different times . Kinda like you guys do .. Another way to help keep the bead stop from sliding down is to tie a small knot below the bead stop … it’s not perfect but definitely helps it stay up … As long as you use a good fluorocarbon like Seagur a knot won’t weaken the line .. never had one break yet .. from 8/lb on up .. I’d like to see a tutorial on drift fishing the big 20 , 25 and 32 mm soft bead for Kings … that’s what I’ve been trying with no luck on the mid to lower Sac , but this year is super tough due to the drought conditions .. The places I can fish don’t hold fish , they move thru quickly to the colder water further up river .. it boils down to a lot of luck and if I didn’t have Bad luck I’d have No luck at all .. THANKS GUYS
I just caught my first fish on soft beads last week. I haven't fished beads a whole lot but have had good success in clear water conditions with doubled up 8mil...contrasting colors
Jordan how do you feel about wrapping your leader threw the bead twice to lock it in place .koehl Eric and I have been doing it for year .it never seems to be a issue especially when I'm comfortable use a heavier leader .15 lb UG or some thing .what do you think. I can remember ever losing a fish to line breakage and know I've landed dozens using this method. Thank you guys keep it up!!
Just came up on my feed...I was basically mouthing what you guys were saying. You really covered the exact reason why I push the Soft Plastics here in the shop over everything else. The 3 key points, Ease of changing color and Size, Fish definitely hang onto them longer and finally the pivot point is a huge factor. Hard beads work as a shim to push fish off. The squishiness of the soft plastic allow for there to be more play near the hook keeping the fish on during the fight. There isnt much that I see on the Net that I agree with but you knocked it outta the park. Tight lines boys!
The hard flourescent ones seem to attract a lot of fish. I love a pink pearl corkie though. Held with a toothpick end. Either one, gott have some yarn in the loop!
Soft or hard, from experiance I think it really doesn't matter. I feel like a soft bead is more convenient, it's way more easy to switch out like Nick said. Let's be honest too during peak season with heavy competition you always want to be fishing and less time you have to switch out set ups to switch a color can become a nightmare and end result less fish on in your day.
I liked this super informative video thanks for it. You guys maybe throw in one or two top down cameras? You have huge trays of beads but couldn't see the size or colors you are showing. Keep up the good work!!!
Hey Guys - This is excellent content! Just curious about the ‘hybrid’ bead that you mentioned - are there beads/eggs with the features of both hard & soft that you use and recommend?
I emailed BnR the other day because I was confused about the video on their website that said that the beads could be changed over the hook while you're on the water and how that was supposed to work with the t-stop. I gathered after that conversation that changing the bead over the hook with the t-stop isn't possible so I'm not sure why their video was about. One of the packages of beads that I bought didn't have the t-stops enclosed but had bobber stops and sequins inside. I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that whoever I emailed at BnR said that they were doing away with the t-stops. I sent a follow-up email to get more clarification and never heard back. Also, in this video, you guys sounded like you were going to explain how to use the glass bead but you never got to it. I'd like to see how you rig those maybe in a supplemental video.
I have the t stop u can change your bead without passing thrue the hook , i use 3 feet leader with the t stop and the hook to change cut the leader on top take bead out put a new one , then u can adjust your float
Nice info. Great opinions on which bead suits the fisherman. Just starting to learn how to fish with soft beads. Don’t have much experience or confidence in them yet, but the more I try, I’m sure they’ll produce.
I just got into beads. Not sure which is my favorite. A lot of the hard beads have amazing shine so I can't wait to fish them this winter. But the soft ones move in the water real well. Maybe I'll dog the soft and just float the hard 🤷
I have issues using the t stops and I’m sure everyone does. The beads slide over them if you hang up and it’s hard to get the bead back up over the t stop. Sometimes the bead ends up down on the hook and the t stop just stays where it was lol. Need a bigger size base on them or a harder material. OR glass bead trick with a sequin below the bead, I don’t like the t stops on beads over 12mm 😔
Pulling a light colored soft bead over the bead stop results in a blood dot egg pattern. Try pulling a yellow or green translucent soft bead over a red stopper and you have a blood dot option however this technique does degrade over time.
Def gonna grab some of those tsops. Never used soft beeds before and thanks guys for showin and talking about the softs.. Think I mite switch to the soft rig with the tstops bc of being able to switch colors at anytime, sold lol
I’m new top bead fishing, I ordered some sport beads from BnR. I will be fishing a river where scents are not allowed, and I’ve noticed when I cracked the bag off beads,the strong rubber smell has me wondering if the rubber scent with no scent additives will be a problem.
Centering pin twist lock for larger diameter soft beads, only problem is, most of the time they inhale it and causes damage to fish. 🥴. But hook up ratio is great.
when making leaders for drifting lead . would you be better to put on the snap swivel on it or not when taking it off the leader roll or just have the snap swivel attached to the lead your going to use .
Under the glass bead, Ashley stopper knot? (Oysterman's knot). Could you tie just a 4 turn overhand knot & draw it tight? Tryin to figure out a knot that yields 100 % line strength - couldnt find the answer to that for the ashley stopper. Also saw a guy slip an xtra sm transparent bobber stop up into his threaded soft egg from below - invisible. Pretty clever I thought.
I'm too old school I guess, but you can't paint a soft bead. I like my old colors. But the colors you can buy now are pretty impressive. I guess I should keep up w/the times...
I wish I could use soft beads but they keep sliding off the stops and I miss the fish. They even sent me new and different stops and it didn't help. Does the glass bead work to keep the soft bead from sliding?
I think it depends on water condition, your buget because soft beeds are definitely more expensive and how comfortable you are using that particular product. Go with what you know and don't be afraid to experiment...that said don't break your wallet doing it. Thats my take
Hey guys. I'm from Ontario, and I use soft eggs. I personally have never seen the hard beads. I just put the soft egg on a # 12 egg hook. Just like a single egg yarn fly. I'm wondering the reason that you run your single egg presentation two inches or so above a bare hook. Thanks Henry Schmidt
I think it's to achieve a better hook set, it'll hook in the outside corner of the jaw. (Always wondered if this could be considered flossing by wardens.)
Thanks for the informative video! Was that a standard knot above the glass bead tied into your leader? If so, does that compromise the leader strength any?
I have a few different blacklights and the only uv beads I've tried are the spirit beads. They do not charge with a blacklight. I tried it on other lures in my box that are uv coated and they light up fine. Are there any uv beads that you know of that hold a charge?
bNr tackle is who makes those. But the beads slide over them if you hang up and it’s hard to get the bead back on top of them.. just use a bobber stop or the glass bead
Leave the door open to Hard and Soft Beads gives you plenty of Options! and I'm sure once "They" master colors needed for a soft bead it will probably become King.
Can anybody tell me how to rig the soft bead rig cause every time I use soft bead the big trout end up swallowing the soft beads, does this also happen with the hard beads? Thanks. Soft beads should be out of the fly fishing industry. Thanks😢
so are rubber eggs a soft bead?? I use Jensen egg thats a soft egg .and what about double threading the tag in to the egg instead of a peg>??? and what about spawn sacs??anyone ever use those in the Northwest???
If the egg is easily compressed down when squeezing it, then that's a soft bead, if not, it's a hard bead (hard rubber that's not easy to press down= hard bead). Double threading the bead still requires a peg in most circumstances because it will still slide in faster currents with just the line double threaded. I use to double thread my beads, but after having lost too many over a short period of time, I've come to realize that it's putting too much un-needed stress on my line that causes my leaders to break off too easy. So in my opinion, I wouldn't double thread.. especially in faster moving water and if you're using leaders that are 10lb test or under. Finally, yes, we use spawn sacs in the Northwest. Very effective when permitted on certain river systems.
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Mine starts out soft.. but gets hard when a steelhead bites. 😂
50/50 combo. Hard bead pegged up top and a soft bead just above the hook for that natural feel when they hit and as you guys said the soft one won’t affect the hook.
🤘🎣
Thanks bud..
SOFT BEAD FIX/TIP!!
you guys were mentioning the downfall of soft beads not sinking as fast or being to buoyant. To eliminate this what I use is the smallest split shot I can find or fit on my leader (thinner leader=smaller shot you can crimp) and use that as the "peg" for soft beads. I'll crimp a small shot just tight enough where I can slide it if I need, then slip the soft egg over that split shot and bury it in the middle of the soft egg. The shot becomes invisible, doesnt affect the eggs look, however the shot gives the soft bead something to hold on as well as allowing it to sink faster.
Bruh u a genius
You're a genius
All that work may aswell use a hard bead...
Gives it a embro look
I'm definitely going to try this. Thanks Ashton Cz. I'll use it in faster water where the strong current can mask the drag of even the smallest tin B split shot. If I hook trout I'll be a hero. If I don't I'll blame you. HaHa! Tight lines.
Show us the “glass bead trick” maybe do a video on it
It’s the red bead at 5:58
I have to second the lower two comments, A short segment on pegging beads with your little glass bead , (how to tie the glass bead) would be awesome to know.
I fish both. For me I fish I river that usually this time of year has a lot of wind. Hard beads if it’s windy. If not I fish soft. But I think also a factor that nobody talks about is how much lead your fishing. Great video, love you guys.
expense is a factor for me and hard beads are much less expensive. So, a small selection of soft, lots of hard and tie glo bugs as a third option. Love em all
Thanks guys , great tutorial .. I run both soft and hard at different times . Kinda like you guys do .. Another way to help keep the bead stop from sliding down is to tie a small knot below the bead stop … it’s not perfect but definitely helps it stay up … As long as you use a good fluorocarbon like Seagur a knot won’t weaken the line .. never had one break yet .. from 8/lb on up .. I’d like to see a tutorial on drift fishing the big 20 , 25 and 32 mm soft bead for Kings … that’s what I’ve been trying with no luck on the mid to lower Sac , but this year is super tough due to the drought conditions .. The places I can fish don’t hold fish , they move thru quickly to the colder water further up river .. it boils down to a lot of luck and if I didn’t have Bad luck I’d have No luck at all .. THANKS GUYS
It's good to have pros and cons understanding when trying something new .
I just caught my first fish on soft beads last week. I haven't fished beads a whole lot but have had good success in clear water conditions with doubled up 8mil...contrasting colors
Jordan how do you feel about wrapping your leader threw the bead twice to lock it in place .koehl Eric and I have been doing it for year .it never seems to be a issue especially when I'm comfortable use a heavier leader .15 lb UG or some thing .what do you think. I can remember ever losing a fish to line breakage and know I've landed dozens using this method. Thank you guys keep it up!!
Just came up on my feed...I was basically mouthing what you guys were saying. You really covered the exact reason why I push the Soft Plastics here in the shop over everything else. The 3 key points, Ease of changing color and Size, Fish definitely hang onto them longer and finally the pivot point is a huge factor. Hard beads work as a shim to push fish off. The squishiness of the soft plastic allow for there to be more play near the hook keeping the fish on during the fight. There isnt much that I see on the Net that I agree with but you knocked it outta the park. Tight lines boys!
Honestly one of the most refreshing debate help video out there ... Thank you great work
Echo some of the other comments/questions. Please explain what knot is below the glass bead. Also what size bead, 4mm?
That questions is one I had in mind for so long.
Trying to get my first steelhead on a bead has been the most discouraging task so far.
We have pretty good luck on the lower sac and trinity river with glo bugs peachy king early and after a lot of pressure we use beads in sauce...
The hard flourescent ones seem to attract a lot of fish.
I love a pink pearl corkie though. Held with a toothpick end. Either one, gott have some yarn in the loop!
I am new to bead fishing and will try hard beads first. 👌👌👌
Pro tip. Hook Soft Beads Directly onto the hook, no need to peg them to line.
More hooksets too when its on hook. Wont scare fish at all.
Great video guys and Awesome information!! My only question is, do soft beads float different than the hard bead?
Soft or hard, from experiance I think it really doesn't matter. I feel like a soft bead is more convenient, it's way more easy to switch out like Nick said. Let's be honest too during peak season with heavy competition you always want to be fishing and less time you have to switch out set ups to switch a color can become a nightmare and end result less fish on in your day.
I use both and have luck with both for salmon and steelhead in michigan
I liked this super informative video thanks for it. You guys maybe throw in one or two top down cameras? You have huge trays of beads but couldn't see the size or colors you are showing. Keep up the good work!!!
Hey Guys - This is excellent content! Just curious about the ‘hybrid’ bead that you mentioned - are there beads/eggs with the features of both hard & soft that you use and recommend?
I emailed BnR the other day because I was confused about the video on their website that said that the beads could be changed over the hook while you're on the water and how that was supposed to work with the t-stop. I gathered after that conversation that changing the bead over the hook with the t-stop isn't possible so I'm not sure why their video was about. One of the packages of beads that I bought didn't have the t-stops enclosed but had bobber stops and sequins inside. I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that whoever I emailed at BnR said that they were doing away with the t-stops. I sent a follow-up email to get more clarification and never heard back.
Also, in this video, you guys sounded like you were going to explain how to use the glass bead but you never got to it. I'd like to see how you rig those maybe in a supplemental video.
I have the t stop u can change your bead without passing thrue the hook , i use 3 feet leader with the t stop and the hook to change cut the leader on top take bead out put a new one , then u can adjust your float
Good video thank you for sharing. Never fished hard beads but would like to try it
Nice info. Great opinions on which bead suits the fisherman.
Just starting to learn how to fish with soft beads. Don’t have much experience or confidence in them yet, but the more I try, I’m sure they’ll produce.
I like Jordan prefer Hard beads over soft beads but I have both and use both. I do however fish hard beads 90% of the time!🎣😁
super informative, guys! I'm trying to get into steel head and it can be frustrating in Erie. Thanks for the info on the setups
I just got into beads. Not sure which is my favorite. A lot of the hard beads have amazing shine so I can't wait to fish them this winter. But the soft ones move in the water real well. Maybe I'll dog the soft and just float the hard 🤷
Got to make a newer version of this video but with incognito beads from lured
I've been using one of each.
Kevin Bushnell same here
I have issues using the t stops and I’m sure everyone does. The beads slide over them if you hang up and it’s hard to get the bead back up over the t stop. Sometimes the bead ends up down on the hook and the t stop just stays where it was lol. Need a bigger size base on them or a harder material. OR glass bead trick with a sequin below the bead, I don’t like the t stops on beads over 12mm 😔
I just ordered a bunch of hard beads. Is their opening big enough to slide over a small bobber stop, similar to the T-stop? Just curious.
Pulling a light colored soft bead over the bead stop results in a blood dot egg pattern. Try pulling a yellow or green translucent soft bead over a red stopper and you have a blood dot option however this technique does degrade over time.
What’s the glass bead trick??
glass beads all the way CreekCandy makes my favorite but i mostly fish the niagara so i like it to get deep fast
The BnR mottled paint comes off by the time you put it on the line. Does the paint they offer hold up better?
I use the glass bead and a Tstop holds great. Also search TH-cam for the lasso method it’s good as well, no stops involved
Thanks for sharing your experience! I'll definitely check out the lasso method on TH-cam.
You should check out plastisol dyes and an angling ai mold for salmon eggs and egg clusters
Def gonna grab some of those tsops. Never used soft beeds before and thanks guys for showin and talking about the softs.. Think I mite switch to the soft rig with the tstops bc of being able to switch colors at anytime, sold lol
Are the soft beads for fishing rainbow trout scented
Can you guys explain that glass bead peg deal?
Yes please!
Josh Jarvis Yes!!! I don’t understand the whole glass peg thing either!?
What about the glass stop?
I’m new top bead fishing, I ordered some sport beads from BnR. I will be fishing a river where scents are not allowed, and I’ve noticed when I cracked the bag off beads,the strong rubber smell has me wondering if the rubber scent with no scent additives will be a problem.
Did you ever do the glass bead stopper?
What size is the glass bead?
Centering pin twist lock for larger diameter soft beads, only problem is, most of the time they inhale it and causes damage to fish. 🥴. But hook up ratio is great.
You can fish any bead you want, as long as it’s UV
I love both points! Use them all!! Lol
I have a big problem with soft beads slipping the stop and have caught plenty of fish on hard so i have a hard on
Put soft bead on shank of the hook and use super glow
when making leaders for drifting lead . would you be better to put on the snap swivel on it or not when taking it off the leader roll or just have the snap swivel attached to the lead your going to use .
Couldn’t you use a clear bobber stop on either side when rigging a hard bead?
You 3 are awesome
Soft clear drift go to
What is the name of that Bead Kit you have on the table? Tight Line
Do they both drift the Same?
Under the glass bead, Ashley stopper knot? (Oysterman's knot). Could you tie just a 4 turn overhand knot & draw it tight? Tryin to figure out a knot that yields 100 % line strength - couldnt find the answer to that for the ashley stopper. Also saw a guy slip an xtra sm transparent bobber stop up into his threaded soft egg from below - invisible. Pretty clever I thought.
What about the hard bead with the soft coating
I'm too old school I guess, but you can't paint a soft bead. I like my old colors. But the colors you can buy now are pretty impressive. I guess I should keep up w/the times...
I need that hat cams wearing anywhere i can find it since it not on your site right now?
I wish I could use soft beads but they keep sliding off the stops and I miss the fish. They even sent me new and different stops and it didn't help. Does the glass bead work to keep the soft bead from sliding?
Hard Bead by CREEK CANDY BEADS... for me.
What size hook you guys run with the beads?
alex hodge i run a size 2 hook 8 to a 16 mm bead
jory preston nice was curios cuz I run a size 4 for beads and size 2 for bait
Where might a guy purchase the soft bead assortment that reel n peel has ?
marty barbour sportco has em
How do you change your bead
I think it depends on water condition, your buget because soft beeds are definitely more expensive and how comfortable you are using that particular product.
Go with what you know and don't be afraid to experiment...that said don't break your wallet doing it.
Thats my take
My option soft bead more realistic...chewy if you will...hard bead = spat out like a rock
Hey guys.
I'm from Ontario, and I use soft eggs. I personally have never seen the hard beads. I just put the soft egg on a # 12 egg hook. Just like a single egg yarn fly. I'm wondering the reason that you run your single egg presentation two inches or so above a bare hook.
Thanks Henry Schmidt
I think it's to achieve a better hook set, it'll hook in the outside corner of the jaw. (Always wondered if this could be considered flossing by wardens.)
Has anyone tried a hair rig with a stop for beads?
Thanks for the informative video! Was that a standard knot above the glass bead tied into your leader? If so, does that compromise the leader strength any?
Good question..I wish they would reply. Good video though
Videos coming soon!
Where can I purchase those T Stops?
What’s the glass bead?
Where do u order your soft beads from?
where do you buy your T stopper peg from?
Do you guys do a podcast?
With the bnr t-stop can you still change out a soft bead over the hook?
Yes i do i dont pass the bead thru the hook i cut my leader and i put the bead from the top
italiansalmonhead then it makes it the same as a hard bead- not over the hook. Either way a knot is quick to tie
I want to be friends with your channel. I am a Korean fishing channel!
I have a few different blacklights and the only uv beads I've tried are the spirit beads. They do not charge with a blacklight. I tried it on other lures in my box that are uv coated and they light up fine. Are there any uv beads that you know of that hold a charge?
Adventures With Rico
Hevi-Beads.com have UV, Hevi-UV and Glow beads.
Do you guys fish beads because regulations on the rivers your fishing don’t let you fish roe?
Hard beads only
You figured us out and it took you 4 minutes to answer it what else do we need you for
I use a nylon hook with a steel line
Do you have a link for the t-beads please ??
bNr tackle is who makes those. But the beads slide over them if you hang up and it’s hard to get the bead back on top of them.. just use a bobber stop or the glass bead
So the glass bead stop trick? Thanks for sharing the knowledge
Video coming soon!
What are jetson eggs?
addicted.fishing/collections/steelhead-fishing-worms-eggs
Steeliebeads pegs are the best
Hard beads for sure.
Leave the door open to Hard and Soft Beads gives you plenty of Options! and I'm sure once "They" master colors needed for a soft bead it will probably become King.
Did I miss it or did the Three Stooges forget to tell us about the "glass bead" trick?
Can anybody tell me how to rig the soft bead rig cause every time I use soft bead the big trout end up swallowing the soft beads, does this also happen with the hard beads? Thanks. Soft beads should be out of the fly fishing industry. Thanks😢
I like both but I do favor the soft beads for the fact I can change them out so much faster if I want a different size or color
Hard beads never had much luck on soft beads
Wife said hard always better then soft...
Smart smart!!!
"mouth feel"
so are rubber eggs a soft bead?? I use Jensen egg thats a soft egg .and what about double threading the tag in to the egg instead of a peg>??? and what about spawn sacs??anyone ever use those in the Northwest???
If the egg is easily compressed down when squeezing it, then that's a soft bead, if not, it's a hard bead (hard rubber that's not easy to press down= hard bead).
Double threading the bead still requires a peg in most circumstances because it will still slide in faster currents with just the line double threaded. I use to double thread my beads, but after having lost too many over a short period of time, I've come to realize that it's putting too much un-needed stress on my line that causes my leaders to break off too easy. So in my opinion, I wouldn't double thread.. especially in faster moving water and if you're using leaders that are 10lb test or under.
Finally, yes, we use spawn sacs in the Northwest. Very effective when permitted on certain river systems.
Use a tripple surgens not to stop bead
Matt Duncan yep or nail knot
Triple wrap the hard beads
Or just toothpick em
Don't type any of this into urban dictionary...