I have driven a Defender daily for many years now. I often read the 'this is better than that' off road debates. What owners of other marques don't seem to realise is, that Land Rover owners don't proclaim their vehicles to be the best at anything! We own them simply because we love them and are willing to work around some of the foibles and short comings. That's part of the charm.
@@nabahmadi5012 on which point Nab? I think it is a given in Land Rover circles that the trucks will need modifications to suit your circumstances.... or sometimes even just to run properly. Alas, driving a Land Rover doesn't mean I wouldn't like a 40 series Cruiser. I would love one!
Had the vehicle been reliable? I’m cross-shopping the two vehicles in this video, and can handle the hurdles of original/unrestored cars but don’t want to depend on something unusable.
@@MrGman636 yes, both have beer reliable for me, and the Puma continues to munch miles. The Transit engine is known for been soft if not looked after, where as the TD5 has a reputation for been a little more hardy. No 6 speed box though, so noisier inside for sure. I have a rattle in my clutch now, and changing that is a big enough job. Will cost about €800 all in.
That said, a Defender would require more looking after than most of it's contemporaries....you get into them because you like them. The Defender is a hobby for me also.
Watching these is like watching an automotive lifestyle blog, but in all the right ways and with none of the cringe. As an enthusiast utterly bored by facts and figures this is exactly the kind of thing I want to watch
Eh, it was a little cringe especially at the end. I'm going to get the defender to get the Range unstuck. Gets there to say nevermind I'll just leave this guys truck. So much of this just felt really staged and scripted. Which is ok, but a little too corny
My dad had a 1997 Discovery with the 5-speed manual, was a great vehicle for all the roads (and trails) in Bolivia and this video gives me the same kind of feeling that car gave me as we ran up and down the mountains pushing it to the limit. Loved the video and the amazing content coming from this channel as of late
Another viewer who found Ryan during the rallyist days (which I must re watch, thinking about it...). A really fantastic video. Great to see you doing stuff like this!
@@michaelblue5261 Which would you choose, a 200TDi or a 300TDi ? Anyone heard of the Darien Gap? What colour carpet came in a suffix A? ‘There’s a bright golden haze on the meadow…’
This trule a really great video as it just shows both cars for what they are and supposed to be used for. I own a 110 and it is my pride and joy. And it will stay in the family forever. My daughter already has a claim on it in the will.
I think this is just one of the best and most fun off-road videos I´ve ever watched - and you're sending all the energy alone! Congrats on this great production :)
Love this video; very nice presentation & filming but most importantly a top subject, I love the classic Range Rover. One of the very best cars ever made.
I put 300,000 kms on my L322 turbo diesel v8 Range Rover, fantastic off road, it was completely stock I never had an issue with it..... I had a Jeep Wrangler unlimited before and it went everywhere the Jeep went and then some. It was incredibly comfortable doing and getting there AND home. One of the best cars made
Really nice video and drone footage was amazing... It seems also that the script said to stuck the Range Rover, because the ZF gearbox has a Reverse option... lol
Love this video. My only gripe would be describing the Classics dash. What you have there is a one year only dash. On the very last year it was made. All the other 20+ years of production look very very different inside.
Between deferner for obvious reason and the 2cv probably the two most enjoyable cars great video sir, nearly bought a classic 2.5 d and kindah regret not doing so
When I was a kid I have best memories of our family defender here in Australia. Troop carrier style with rear bench seats along the side walls so is 4 kids faces each other. Good old fashion bar tread 16R tyres and my father got rid of the little petrol engine and replaced it with a 3.3ltr straight six Holden engine, the legendary Red motor, aka the "202". Dad said it was both the best and worst thing you could do to a defender. Better fuel economy and double the power, but the diffs and gear boxes are made of glass and left us stranded a couple of times lol
As the owner of a ‘95 LWB, I would have appreciated the video more if he could have simply reversed it and tried a bit more momentum. I’ve been in deeper and still come out. Although I guess every Land Rover vid needs some drama these days...
I test drove a D90 in 1998...it had not sold the previous year, they just were not that big of a deal when you figured it was the base model, then the D1, then the ultimate the RRC. I ended up getting a discovery, still drive it today.....and I always like to tell that story.!
I before all the Toyota and Chevy elitists about how much better everything else is. I had a 95 Disco. Surprisingly reliable for the couple years I had it. Far from perfect but it was a great trail rig to learn on. One of the most charming and quirky vehicles I’ve ever had and it’s really where a lot of the charm and allure to these vehicles comes from. I’ll always recommend a Toyota to my friends, objectively better in every way, but a Rover will always have my heart. There’s a soul to those vehicles that American and Japanese cars just don’t seem to have.
Unless you drive a modern Jeep which is the only vehicles to come with solid axles and front rear lockers and Factory sway bar disconnects. The rest of the world the Jeep probably has a special soul as being what Landrover copied originally but since we see them everywhere like literally a Rubicon on every corner we don't care but a Rubicon is so amazing off-road from the factory
The 300 Tdi is all good until the rubber cam belt fails and it breaks Tappets and bends all the pushrods. the wading plug in the bell housing that allows you to change gear without the clutch getting wet is a good feture though
The 110's were actually sold in the US in very limited numbers alongside the 90. They came with many more luxury features than european defenders but were all white with matching steelies
Really enjoyed this episode .. Hagerty really making good quality videos with no nonsense 👍🏼👍🏼 for me jeep/ (willys)and land rover set the bar by bringing the 4x4 vehicle to the mainstream .. yes Toyota came along and made more reliable … but they were the true pioneers.
Land rovers were designed for farming not war! The first lr’s were petrol, the original Diesel engine was crap. That’s out of a disco. I grew up with an 88 and v8 110. Not a first gen RR either, they had two doors!
Hagerty the content you guys & girls have been putting out lately is the stuff of Petrol heads dreams! I absolutely love the 100 Defender and this is coming from a hardcore Land Cruiser guy.
Wow! I've been there man. Stuck and having to walk out is the worst. But some Super Swampers or most any mud terrain tire would've gotten him through that mud hole. Plus he did the worst thing you can do in a mud hole, he said woe. You never say woe in a mud hole.
As an owner of both, 1995 Range Rover Classic LWB 25th Anniversary and the 1989 Fj62 Toyota Land Cruiser, the Classis its beautiful and the ride is so comfortable. Buttttt.... My ex wife who hated the Land Cruiser & loved the Range Rover Classic used to call the Land Cruiser," Mr. Reliable". I called the Fj62," The Work Horse ". You hit the trails on a wknd, and on Monday morning you turn that key and it's ready to go. The Classic, same scenario,on Monday morning, you are calling AAA.😡 But I still love the Classic. I hope I don't hurt anyone's feeling, just my experience.
Hum... I did drive a II gen RR but only on highway or on small roads and never off road, however the 1st gen with manual transmission in the early 80s at least in Venezuela, we had a 'differential lock' most likely you would have come out of that with no problem in that situation, it was the 3rd lever on the column, I used it exactly in those situations when your rear axle slips and then your front one too, well time to pull up the "magic lever" often miss-understood... Pulled several heavier vehicle with that feature stuck deep in the mud or on banks, never failed... Granted it was a corporate maintained RR :) great ride! fantastic visibility and too bad here the 5speed never came... that overdrive is really handy... 100 mph on highway that small block V8 purring along, the only noise is the trans, but what a trans! the real off road deal when you need it! Don't know if the II gen had it, but very important for stability is that "mono shock" suspension on top of the real axle, if that is warned out, your Range is going to wobble especially above 60 mph, otherwise very stable vehicle! really fun to drive and the engine sound will perk w 5.0 drivers :)
My 1986 RR has diff lock next to the auto gear lever. Like you said I was surprised he did not use it in the video. Also your remarks about the V8 engine purring is a heartfelt experience that I look forward to everyday I use mine driving to and from work. Most issues with the RR are electrical but once you sort them out it is as reliable as anything else on the track.
What an epic film! There's something about the defender. Having spent some time in these during my days in military, I can honestly say that these are huge turds in many ways. BUT still, I want one.
The 1980s and 1990s Land Rover Defender and Range Rover Classic weren't direct competitors; they were designed for different market segments. Which one would 'win' a test depends entirely on the type of test and its objectives.
I have driven a Defender daily for many years now. I often read the 'this is better than that' off road debates. What owners of other marques don't seem to realise is, that Land Rover owners don't proclaim their vehicles to be the best at anything! We own them simply because we love them and are willing to work around some of the foibles and short comings. That's part of the charm.
as a former land rover owner, i would beg to differ.
@@nabahmadi5012 on which point Nab? I think it is a given in Land Rover circles that the trucks will need modifications to suit your circumstances.... or sometimes even just to run properly. Alas, driving a Land Rover doesn't mean I wouldn't like a 40 series Cruiser. I would love one!
Had the vehicle been reliable? I’m cross-shopping the two vehicles in this video, and can handle the hurdles of original/unrestored cars but don’t want to depend on something unusable.
@@MrGman636 yes, both have beer reliable for me, and the Puma continues to munch miles. The Transit engine is known for been soft if not looked after, where as the TD5 has a reputation for been a little more hardy. No 6 speed box though, so noisier inside for sure. I have a rattle in my clutch now, and changing that is a big enough job. Will cost about €800 all in.
That said, a Defender would require more looking after than most of it's contemporaries....you get into them because you like them. The Defender is a hobby for me also.
music and aerial footage in this one is ... perfect.
Hagerty absolutely killing it lately. Hope they keep it up and dont pull a M/T on us...
This and MotorWeek is the good stuff in the car magazine video world.
By killing it.... you mean...... putting it together?
@@exothermal.sprocket like they're doing an amazing job in the automotive TH-cam channel game lol
manual transmission?
@@henrik1743 MotorTrend lol
There is an eternal soft spot in my heart for a range classic and a defender. I will have one of each one day
Watching these is like watching an automotive lifestyle blog, but in all the right ways and with none of the cringe. As an enthusiast utterly bored by facts and figures this is exactly the kind of thing I want to watch
Eh, it was a little cringe especially at the end. I'm going to get the defender to get the Range unstuck. Gets there to say nevermind I'll just leave this guys truck. So much of this just felt really staged and scripted. Which is ok, but a little too corny
absolutely cringe at times. quite a bit of bs here.
As a Range Rover owner, I appreciate this video a lot.
At 13:52, Land Rover engineers were ahead of their time with the liquid filled/cooled headlights. :D
Thats extra fluid for your power steering and or radiator. Its like a camel pak
they used it on the blinkers too!!
11:30 Walks through knee deep water while it's snowing, "At this point I was freezing"
That Range Rover Classic just looks perfect. It was absolutely crushing it on those trails. Now I might have to go looking for one.
My dad had a 1997 Discovery with the 5-speed manual, was a great vehicle for all the roads (and trails) in Bolivia and this video gives me the same kind of feeling that car gave me as we ran up and down the mountains pushing it to the limit. Loved the video and the amazing content coming from this channel as of late
Your dad has exquisite taste the last real somewhat reliable rover
Nice to see Ryan Symancek back!!! My life as a rallyist on the drive easily one of my favorite series and on my youth one of the most inspiring!!!
Thank you Andres!
Holy cow. It didnt even dawn on me until I finished the video and read this. That was a great series! And he killed this episode
@@RyanSymancek 👏 bravo
This man is a highly intellectual person he actually understands that 4x4 is not flogging you vehicle( unless absolutely nessacary)
That Defender headlight full of water 👌🤙
You know it's used properly when that's the case :)
So does the combustion chambers...
that's that new blinker fluids!
Take care of that Range Rover, they are going way up in value.
As a Defender owner, I agree. The way to drive off-road is as slow as possible and as fast as necessary
Another viewer who found Ryan during the rallyist days (which I must re watch, thinking about it...).
A really fantastic video. Great to see you doing stuff like this!
After watching Ryan's mini series years ago on rally racing... I dig this guy. This'll be great.
There's just something about a white car covered in mud...! top notch production.
Amusingly American knowledge of Land Rover - on a par with European geography 😆
Oh yes, these cars are so complicated only a British mind can comprehend them. By the way, what's the capital of Oklahoma?
@@michaelblue5261 Which would you choose, a 200TDi or a 300TDi ? Anyone heard of the Darien Gap? What colour carpet came in a suffix A?
‘There’s a bright golden haze on the meadow…’
where the wind comes sweepin' out your caboose@@timjones6255
@@timjones62552.5 VM TD 😘
13:51 check out that water sloshin in the headlight
Low blinker fluid!
@@samjezard HAH! Damn you're right. Time to refill!
It’s looks and feels so effortless...kinda peaceful to watch it even when it does all the dirty stuff
This trule a really great video as it just shows both cars for what they are and supposed to be used for. I own a 110 and it is my pride and joy. And it will stay in the family forever. My daughter already has a claim on it in the will.
I think this is just one of the best and most fun off-road videos I´ve ever watched - and you're sending all the energy alone! Congrats on this great production :)
The range rover classic is so much cooler because it would hold its own with a jeep and then do 80 home on the freeway in bliss like a doctor.
Love this video; very nice presentation & filming but most importantly a top subject, I love the classic Range Rover. One of the very best cars ever made.
I put 300,000 kms on my L322 turbo diesel v8 Range Rover, fantastic off road, it was completely stock I never had an issue with it..... I had a Jeep Wrangler unlimited before and it went everywhere the Jeep went and then some. It was incredibly comfortable doing and getting there AND home. One of the best cars made
To me, this is comfortably one of the GREAT car videos. I smiled all the way through it.
Thank-you!
I try to bring smiles! So hell yeah! Thanks man!
Hagerty again puts out a first rate quality video. I had zero interest in Land Rovers, but this video was a ton of fun. Ryan Symancek ... great job.
Thank you!
Really nice video and drone footage was amazing... It seems also that the script said to stuck the Range Rover, because the ZF gearbox has a Reverse option... lol
Holy batman this is a well done video. Good job, this channel is becoming a better motortrend
I totally agree. 90s land and Range Rovers were such a clean design!
Holy hell how does this not have more views?!Incredible video!
Thank you! The best thing you can do to help me is share with friends. Would love for the right groups to see this!
Props to the video team for making this video!
Thank you!
Ryan is effortless to watch 👏🏼
Love this video. My only gripe would be describing the Classics dash. What you have there is a one year only dash. On the very last year it was made. All the other 20+ years of production look very very different inside.
Oh interesting, I didn't know this. Thanks for the info!
those defender shots were beautiful. best vid on youtube
thanks!
Nice adventure and video. thanks a lot for taking us along
Between deferner for obvious reason and the 2cv probably the two most enjoyable cars great video sir, nearly bought a classic 2.5 d and kindah regret not doing so
When I was a kid I have best memories of our family defender here in Australia. Troop carrier style with rear bench seats along the side walls so is 4 kids faces each other. Good old fashion bar tread 16R tyres and my father got rid of the little petrol engine and replaced it with a 3.3ltr straight six Holden engine, the legendary Red motor, aka the "202". Dad said it was both the best and worst thing you could do to a defender. Better fuel economy and double the power, but the diffs and gear boxes are made of glass and left us stranded a couple of times lol
I’m loving this RadVentures series
11:50 Defender, finally 😍
One of the nicest trucks you ever parked in the mud!
What did I miss? Your pant legs looked pretty dry and clean when you got to the Defender. I had a Series IIA. Loved it!
As the owner of a ‘95 LWB, I would have appreciated the video more if he could have simply reversed it and tried a bit more momentum. I’ve been in deeper and still come out. Although I guess every Land Rover vid needs some drama these days...
Also that's why they had air suspension you pressed a button and hey presto you're unstuck
This channel is killing it! Love the content and the videos.
This was so well done! Amazing video!
Driving over that ice looks so satisfying
It was so cool to see the video of that at first! I was really excited.
Worth watching just to see the 110 & hear that diesel startup!
I test drove a D90 in 1998...it had not sold the previous year, they just were not that big of a deal when you figured it was the base model, then the D1, then the ultimate the RRC. I ended up getting a discovery, still drive it today.....and I always like to tell that story.!
I before all the Toyota and Chevy elitists about how much better everything else is. I had a 95 Disco. Surprisingly reliable for the couple years I had it. Far from perfect but it was a great trail rig to learn on. One of the most charming and quirky vehicles I’ve ever had and it’s really where a lot of the charm and allure to these vehicles comes from. I’ll always recommend a Toyota to my friends, objectively better in every way, but a Rover will always have my heart. There’s a soul to those vehicles that American and Japanese cars just don’t seem to have.
Unless you drive a modern Jeep which is the only vehicles to come with solid axles and front rear lockers and Factory sway bar disconnects. The rest of the world the Jeep probably has a special soul as being what Landrover copied originally but since we see them everywhere like literally a Rubicon on every corner we don't care but a Rubicon is so amazing off-road from the factory
Short wheel base with the soft dash! It's rare to see one
Best show on TH-cam
Since you mentioned the Wagoneer, we are going to need a video on the OG American Luxury SUV, the Jeep Wagoneer (SJ 1962 -1991). Excellent video BTW.
Loved this, cracking footage and story.
Thank you! Tried to add some story in there to give you more than just a car review.
Range Rover classic is more Land rover than today's luxury RR
The 300 Tdi is all good until the rubber cam belt fails and it breaks Tappets and bends all the pushrods. the wading plug in the bell housing that allows you to change gear without the clutch getting wet is a good feture though
Really enjoyed that and I'm not even into mud plugging, great, well, everything! 👍👍
Excellent video. Superb production values.
The 110's were actually sold in the US in very limited numbers alongside the 90. They came with many more luxury features than european defenders but were all white with matching steelies
This production quality is amazing
Great video and good see them being used properly too.
Really enjoyed this episode .. Hagerty really making good quality videos with no nonsense 👍🏼👍🏼 for me jeep/ (willys)and land rover set the bar by bringing the 4x4 vehicle to the mainstream .. yes Toyota came along and made more reliable … but they were the true pioneers.
Why does this video only have 70k views?! TH-cam do your thing!!!
Man what a story that was told, Hagerty if you're listening, YOU ARE ON TO SOMETHING
This series is really great
Interesting observation about ground clearance when they're on almost identical running gear ;)
Land rovers were designed for farming not war! The first lr’s were petrol, the original Diesel engine was crap. That’s out of a disco. I grew up with an 88 and v8 110. Not a first gen RR either, they had two doors!
Like the discovery replacing the defender lol i thought these guys knew what they was talking about but guess not 👍
Land rovers are easy to repair though. Really easy.
@@WasLostButNowAmFound Which is lucky as you have to do it often - My 94 RR in pieces right now (Again)!!!!
This video just made me feel good really improved my mood for the day
Hagerty the content you guys & girls have been putting out lately is the stuff of Petrol heads dreams! I absolutely love the 100 Defender and this is coming from a hardcore Land Cruiser guy.
I have always loved the Defenders but even the old ones command a steep price !
Wow! I've been there man. Stuck and having to walk out is the worst. But some Super Swampers or most any mud terrain tire would've gotten him through that mud hole. Plus he did the worst thing you can do in a mud hole, he said woe. You never say woe in a mud hole.
Talk about a surprise ending. I was sure he was going to use the Defender to rescue the Range Rover.
you killed it in that video mate, beautiful shooting, keep it up
Thank you!
21:45 excellent choice 😂
Superb film... bravo!
True rugged Rovers !
love my 95' RR
Another great episode!!!! Can't wait for the next one!
Great film. Really enjoyed it 👏👏
best video on rovers,,,bravo young man !!!!
I love my Land Rover!
As an owner of both, 1995 Range Rover Classic LWB 25th Anniversary and the 1989 Fj62 Toyota Land Cruiser, the Classis its beautiful and the ride is so comfortable. Buttttt.... My ex wife who hated the Land Cruiser & loved the Range Rover Classic used to call the Land Cruiser," Mr. Reliable". I called the Fj62," The Work Horse ". You hit the trails on a wknd, and on Monday morning you turn that key and it's ready to go. The Classic, same scenario,on Monday morning, you are calling AAA.😡 But I still love the Classic. I hope I don't hurt anyone's feeling, just my experience.
Not sure I'd have a Defender over a Series 3. That Classic Range Rover has me browsing classifieds now.
One of the best video i’ve ever seen!
Great production on this video
Solid first episode!
this... is the second.
Love everything this kid does
Well executed and narrated 👍
Hum... I did drive a II gen RR but only on highway or on small roads and never off road, however the 1st gen with manual transmission in the early 80s at least in Venezuela, we had a 'differential lock' most likely you would have come out of that with no problem in that situation, it was the 3rd lever on the column, I used it exactly in those situations when your rear axle slips and then your front one too, well time to pull up the "magic lever" often miss-understood... Pulled several heavier vehicle with that feature stuck deep in the mud or on banks, never failed... Granted it was a corporate maintained RR :) great ride! fantastic visibility and too bad here the 5speed never came... that overdrive is really handy... 100 mph on highway that small block V8 purring along, the only noise is the trans, but what a trans! the real off road deal when you need it! Don't know if the II gen had it, but very important for stability is that "mono shock" suspension on top of the real axle, if that is warned out, your Range is going to wobble especially above 60 mph, otherwise very stable vehicle! really fun to drive and the engine sound will perk w 5.0 drivers :)
My 1986 RR has diff lock next to the auto gear lever. Like you said I was surprised he did not use it in the video. Also your remarks about the V8 engine purring is a heartfelt experience that I look forward to everyday I use mine driving to and from work. Most issues with the RR are electrical but once you sort them out it is as reliable as anything else on the track.
What an epic film!
There's something about the defender. Having spent some time in these during my days in military, I can honestly say that these are huge turds in many ways. BUT still, I want one.
the springs almost look too stiff. stock setup was softer and didnt throw you around.
Man, I will subscribe to your channel just for this video. Probably won't watch any of your stuff apart from that, but you have deserved it!
This is beautiful.
Great episode! Truly.
Thank you!
İncredible 👏🏼👏🏼thank you so much for this...
The 1980s and 1990s Land Rover Defender and Range Rover Classic weren't direct competitors; they were designed for different market segments. Which one would 'win' a test depends entirely on the type of test and its objectives.
Fantastic Video!!!❤❤❤
A true off road driver knows where to keep his/her thumbs on the steering wheel.
I just love defender
Great job Ryan!