+Legophile Yes it is, to me it brings this feeling that you just stepped into something far grand than fighting a regular fantasy creature. This boss and its 3 battles are just that feeling of "OHHHH BOY..." :D
it really was, best part of the game imo, when this battle started i was soo hyped and was like 'omg this shit is crazy!', just wished the final climax battles and plot-line carried with that same level of excitement and 'plot-thickening' kind of intrigue
Brynite His exit is sooooooo much better. Barthandelus you bastard, or is it Dysley? All that I know is he's a fucking pest! 2399900465200 Paradigm shifts later.
I faced him yesterday. That was an epic battle. I used Lightning, Hope and Sazh. Barthandelus is fast becoming one of my favourite videogame villains. I love the twist that he was really a Fal'Cie. Lightning and the others looked scared when they saw his real form. I didn't find him as difficult to beat as people said he was. I managed it on my first attempt.
I rushed so much he ended my first run, as I had only a single save I overwrote whenever I came to a terminal, and was so weak I couldn't farm the mob groups around. A few years ago, I bought the game on PC and tried again. That time I only came to the final area after having farmed max crystarium and max level weapons (available at that point in the game anyway) for EVERYONE. Then I popped every spray and enhancer and kicked the ever living shit out of him. It was great.
+Roland Scarecrow Especially a mission mark, if you're aiming to get 5 stars. Heck, I always try to get a preemptive strike on a mission just to ensure that I do in fact get 5 stars.
Don't want to spoil anything ................... look down if you wanna know .... ..... ..... ..... Cid. I was stuck fighting him for ever. Lolz, but I think you should be fine if beat this guy. :D
"Your kind feared the darkness, so we gave you light" that one single moment, where the choir starts singing and Lighting makes a scared expression for the first time ever, that one second was the only thing that kept me from going insane when I was trying to beat this guy, it took me a week.
Yea I know this is an old game but I decided to pull it out and play it again, I’ve always hated this boss fight but I really enjoyed this series (FFXIII) and can say I love it and I don’t understand why so many people hated it...I still don’t understand it 🤷🏻♀️
It's because of how linear it is. There is far less exploration in this game than in the others of the series. It's basically a battle simulator where you walk down one long hallway for 11 chapters, then the game finally opens up a little with one side quest that is repeated numerous times.
@@clintonwilcox4690 sorry but that is not enough to hate the game, not even close, ffxv is open world and is more hated than the xiii series, many other ff is linear or have a empty open world and is not hated like xiii
@@franpereiravmax I must have missed the memo on what is and is not an appropriate reason for hating a game. Yes, of course, all Final Fantasy games are linear in that they follow a story. But most Final Fantasy games are non-linear in that they involve a massive open world that you can explore and side quests that you can complete to take a break from the main game after a while.
@@franpereiravmax you're right. XII was more open of it's time and was hated, now, the time put it in his place. In square there must be a great complication cause XBOX 360 and PS3 limitations, Fabula Nova and XII reviews. They see XII was so hated about the boring long cutscenes, the long open stances, the many side-quest and the characters, specially Vaan. Then they make XIII in base about what people want about XII, then XIII comes out. People don't like cause is linnear and the characters are annoying (for me Vanille and his sounds makes me feel uncomfortable) so, what the hell people want?? The only thing that i don't like is the sounds of Vanille, the repetitive Side Quest (but i can stand it) and the fact that doesn't exist New Game Plus
@@La-hora-del-terror in my case i love everything about Fabula Nova, i've played nearly all FFs (i haven't played only the MMOs, X, XII and XV) and i don't understand the hate, i trully think the problem is the Hype, to all new final fantasy the fandom rise a impossible standart and everything will be a problem to them, they want perfection but nothing is truly perfect (or just a copy of VII, for part of the fandom i think that will work)
I had a team of Lightning, Hope, and Fang. Damn near impossible; attempted this battle 4 times and failed that many times. The most useful paradigms for the popcorn fights in chapter 9 were: (Com, Rav, Rav), (Com, Med, Sen) -- turtle heal, (Com, Rav, Sen) -- turtle attack, (Med, Med, Com). Couldn't crack Barthandelus that way. I switched to Lightning, Hope, and Sahz. New paradigms: (Com, Syn, Syn), (Com, Com, Med), (Rav, Med, Med), (Rav, Rav, Rav). Strategy -- started with (Com, Syn, Syn) -- waited till fully buffed, switched to (Com, Com, Med) -- smacked a head 2-3 times, switched to (Rav, Rav, Rav) and switched back to a med paradigm any time I needed to heal. Always kept an offensive team member out. Barthandelus went down like a chump.
PGGreatOak you're not the only one I was shocked to find that it was composed by the composer of Death Note, Hunter x Hunter, Ouran, and Break Blade Yoshihisa Hirano!!
TheGuardianCore Yeah, I agree. Considering Jihl basically had Sazh grabbed by the balls at that point, I can easily see a Jihl boss fight where you are forced to play as Sazh (but get to choose the other two members) then after her innevitable defeat, "Why don't you leave, Jihl? Or rather, take your leave" It would have been pretty epic to have Sazh settle the score with Jihl by slapping the livinf shit out of her.
Man, I wonder how the story between Sahz and Jihl is gonna play out. I mean, there's been so much build up between the two, there's no way this is gonna-- 00:35 Oh... nevermind. Final Fantasy XIII, ladies and gents; where characters either have resolution without establishment, or establishment without resolution.
KashelGladio to be honest they could've had a boss fight with Jihl right before this. Ex: When they first enter the room, Jihl says her lines, and then boss fight, and then after that we have the resolution between the two, and then Barthandelus kills Jihl, starting the whole confrontation with him.
just like in most ATB rpg games, Haste (Sazh) and slow are the key to victory. Spent a lot of time trying to deal damage without haste in order to cancel Destrudo, without success of course
Am I the only one who lost more than 5 times to this boss? As far as I remember, Haven't had a harder boss battle before...I only can't think on anyone else except for Nemesis from X
I occasionally get this game and my old 360 out to play this game and I got to this part and realized just how stupid it is when you don't take in Sahz. I had him at 1k hp and then he killed me
Lol, people say you can just auto battle through this game. This guy wiped the floor with my balls for the better part of a week. I took a three month break before restarting the game and doing tons of grinding 😂
You can use what this guy is using - Lightning, Vanille and Sazh with his arrangements, or you could use Snow, Lightning and Hope like I did and make Snow the leader so that when he uses his Destro ability ur on Mediguard/Steelguard.
I just have one question. What equipment did you use? I've been stuck on this boss for ages. I took a break for over a year cause I get massively slaughtered every time I fight him. I already added up farm and grind your butt off level gear maxing out crystarium for max effectiveness. Any suggestions on helping me kick this boss's butt from here to Kingdom come. I'm tired of getting my butt kicked. I've even tried different heros I'm just stuck on what equipment to be used. I've even toyed with the idea using Aegisol and Fortisol for the extra help.
- use item libra-scope to scan the boss & boss's parts first - wipe out all the mini-parts first, then come finish the big boss - i believe I used Lightning, Snow, Sanz; b/c only these three have 4atb by this time. - Para: Com to atk & delay chain-gauge reduce Rav to fill chain gauge quick Sent & Medic for survival. Syn to have Sanz buff your team. - Call Odin, have Sanz learnt Haste, etc... - Learn the trick to change-para frequent during fight & abuse Auto-action; so then your atb gauge filled quickly & your character do things nonstop / no-delay. when team leader done the chain-of-action, u quick change para, & the atb gauge will be full after short para-shift animation > execute the next chain of action / atk. that like 5-7 sec faster than waiting the gauge filled.
@@efilecir8937 I went in with Light, Vanille, and Sazh. Before I stated the fight I used the items that give you the buffs. I started the fight with Com, Rav, Com and just spammed blitz on each of the heads, once those were dead I then used Rav, Rav, Rav and kept hitting Barthandelus until he staggered. If he’d do the mouth beam I’d wait till the last second and switch to Med, Med, Syn to heal any dmg taken, I’d then switch back to Rav, Rav, Rav and continue damaging him. As for his charge up multi laser attack dps check thing, while I wasn’t able to knock him out of it, I was able to consistently stagger him and mitigate the dmg from his attack to where it barely damaged my party by switching to Com, Rav, Com to keep start up the chain gauge, and also keep it from going down fast, and then quickly switching to Rav, Rav, Rav the entire time to damage him. Using this strategy and party I was able to kill him first try in 1min 17sec. I never saw the boss cast doom which I was actually surprised about.
When I first fought him, I thought he was just a fake-out boss. Then I died to him. I came back with this team and won. His magic spamming is the worst.
@tonitheking Someone finally agrees. i mean, look at this. True, it's not as open as the other FF, but had a good but confusing story and awesome gameplay, not to mention that you get great graphics and a system that requires timing and skill. They did great on the music and the characters were top notch!
Truth. I don't remember how many times I lost to this fight, but I lost four or five times to the last fight until I learned that Poison tears the final boss to shreds, and it really does. I beat him on my first try when I poisoned him.
I had trouble with this fight until i used the same party setup and put on magic resist.Vanille and sazh come in clutch with the buffs and the heals(haste helps a lot),in my experience hope dies way too fast and fang is ok if you want to use her.
you're suppose to keep attacking barthandelus when he's charging up to use his destrudo attack. if you get his chain gauge high enough, you should be able to interrupt his attack.
@xNe0my I think your talking about that attack called destrudo. When he's charging up for destrudo, turn yourself into a medic and let your two partners attack. While he's still charging, select potions but don't use them yet! as soon as he releases his charge, use it at that exact moment and quickly heal your team w/ cure. Oh and watch out for doom. (There's no cure for the spell doom-- so you have to kill him ASAP!!) hope that this helps
I thought I was doing all right, but then I got Doomed, tried an all out Relentless Assault, and got killed. All I had to do was choose better paradigms, and I won on the second try without too great of difficulty. I was expecting a showdown with Jihl, who I despised as much as any other character. Her end was certainly anticlimactic. This might be the Final Fantasy-est song in the entire series.
This boss is really hard guys, so you just need to setup your party with Sazh, Light and Vanille. Cast Fortisol and Aegisol at the beginning and that is it.
I found the secret about this guy, well first kill his heads in whatever order, then when he starts to attack just spam the crap out of him and when he charges destrudo really beat the crap out of him because every time he 'groans' it reduces the damage by a lot, and if you use odin when he's at 50% you can avoid doom altogether. Then he dies.
@RobertCrozier123 If you're talking about "Destrudo", you'll need to switch to a pure offensive paradigm like "Relentless Assault" and go balls-out with damage while he's charging. He'll make a noise and stumble a bit and the damage will be greatly mitigated once it does go off.
I only played this game for a few hours on a rental once, wasn't really for me. But I do remember watching an old friend of mine throw herself at this boss at least 3 times getting brought low by doom each time. I'd say it's worth something when you can make an impression as a videogame boss to someone who's never truly played the game.
dude the heads have diff element weaknesses far left:ice left:water right:fire far right:thunder i think the right ones are ok but they could be switched
Got stuck... Cant beat this, and oddly cant beat the random encounter behind me... No Crystogen=no Haste... No Haste=pulverized by Dustrudo... Pulverized by Destrudo=pissed off me...
This is almost impossible, I tryied to beat him like 10+ times and cant seem to do it, It is a fact that Japanese developers pump up the dificulty for the European releases of the games, but we are not THAT good!! Its really frustating.
THANKS for the Minimising-Destrudo part. I had a really good battle team, but because of that destrudo, I didn't get enough time because of the doom he casts. But you didn't even get doom!
@DJzero101 get everyone healed when he's charging destrudo, then buffed if you can manage it, but most importantly go into something like delta attack or relentless assault because you can 'break' his attack so it does less damage, he should grunt if you hit him hard enough and you should survive
This boss took me 20 mins with Lighting Fang and hope. Hope is paper. And like after I defeated his wings, I was only able to stagger him once. I could not do it again as he resets too fast. I had Rav rav and commando. And could not stagger. I was able to sustain and kill him via chipping his health. Took me 25 mins. I did not die once, but I definitely felt way too weak for this fight. I am scared moving forward. Did I not upgrade my char enough? Or was my team composition completely wrong…..
I just... I don't know. Dysley didn't struck me at any point as a good villain. He was just... there. We never got to know much about him, he never did something really unforgettable (the Nibelheim incident, Kefka poisoning Doma, NeoExdeath screwing the whole world up, Kuja destroying Terra... see what I mean?). They just needed someone to be the big bad. I think Orphan would be a much better villain, were he the mastermind of the whole plot. Too bad he's just another tool.
Just beat this Super Robo Pope boss today, What an intense match that was. That destrudo move is a bitch. Even with Shell, Protect, and Veil on, he still does alot of damage to your party (almost kills me). And if I didn't have these on my party, I would've been dead instantly. THANKS BULLY PARADIGM!!!
The trick to making that more tolerable is to go all out on him while it's charging. Do that enough and some of those bombs will go off prematurely, which weakens the attack for when its let loose. After you trigger that burst, go back on the defensive.
nice video, however it would of been easier using hope and fang in replace of vanille and sazh. Haste is ok (sazh) but wont help you in the long run when he begins using destructo or w/e its called. Hope for magic and fang for commando/sentinal. Hope can fully heal any character with one full atb or cures. Anyway you looked like you have cp grinded so i was wondering what weapons and accessories you used for this?
I remember when I beat him for the first time after so much struggling....and my console abruptly shut off during the following cutscene. I think it was because the power cord came undone or something. My God, that was painful.
i'm still mad Jihl got bodied before we actually had a boss battle with her. Like imagine her given magic on the spot or the tech to mimic magic or something.. Glad she got her chance in 13-2 but still!
Fighting Jihl immediately before Barthandelus would have satisfied the typical "Square" boss sequence...like the Spectral Keeper followed by Yunalesca, haha.
This game has the most retarded random difficulty spike ever, even lesser common enemies can outright kill you. I swear the developers did this on purpose to lengthen the game. They even let you restart where you died cuz they know it's bullshit.
***** Any difficulty "spike" during this game is purely perceptual on your part, and can be attributed to your failure to improve your strategies as they slipped from good, to inefficient, to barely workable, to outright failure. Keep up with the learning curve, and the challenge curve keeps up with you.
+Jannick Lumme At normal levels (fought enemies on path without excess grinding) and without using equipment upgrades or shrouds, every possible team is capable of winning this battle in under 10 minutes. The Doom timer kicks in at the 20 minute mark and gives you three extra minutes from that point. Barthandelus is no pushover (he's definitely harder than anything you've fought yet), but he's not unfairly difficult. Adding shrouds, upgrades, and/or grinding makes the fight significantly easier, especially upgrades. Defensive upgrades like maxed Rune Bracelets make it easier to survive and increase the player's ability to stay in offensive paradigms. Offensive upgrades like weapons and +stat items can roughly double the player's damage output, with obvious benefits in terms of beating the Doom timer. From a challenge play perspective, there is literally no such thing as being "too weak" for this boss; he can be defeated without using the Crystarium and without upgrading equipment, although this does require shrouds and a very high level of skill.
True sentinals are not efficent in this fight but still itsd always good to have a paradigm with a sentinal in it in case you need a damage sponge. Solidarity/delta attack are good for this fight. when you say default tier 1 weapons were they maxed out tier 1 weapons( with the star) or the basic bread and butter lvl 1 weapons? What accessories did you use?
@MagicNeinStudios u could avoid it bt u have to time ur attacks well with lightning that flip shot she does as her final attack is actually an evasive tech as well as when lightning first cast a magic spell, when she jumps back its also an evasive tech. its just all about timing enemy attacks its really reliable
I didn't realize initially that attacking him during Destrudo actually reduces the damage that you take from him from "may take your main character from full health to zero health" to "barely takes your 3 party members to half health" -- has the extra bonus of letting you chew into his health while he's gearing his big attack. With Lightning, Hope, and Sahz -- he goes down like a chump.
@TGMav well u can always go back and farm theres a farming spot not too far from that position,where all the guards are atu keep fighting them for like a half hr to an hr then you will be alright
hmmm... you need a sentinal for the first part of the fight( with the four heads) otherwise hope takes a beating... What accessories did you use? was your weapons full upgraded tier 1 weapons or very raw lvl 1 weapons?
longer than it needed to? did u notice the target time? it is 11 minutes, he is underleveled than most other players that have a 9 minute or less target time (lower target time means you are that much more powerful) and he did it 4 minutes faster than his target time compared to the others who only did it in 2 minutes faster.
i beat this boss first try.. what i did was use light, hope n sazh, start of battle have com/SYN/SYN - hope will cast protect n shell, which all of the bosses attacks wont do much no more so problem solved. sazh will cast haste. then swich to rav on all three characters n kill all the lil heads. then take out the big guy. heal and recast PROTECT wen necessary..
I just can't believe Barthandelus killed Nabaat before we could even get a chance to fight her! I mean, c'mon! She's probably the ONLY really evil person on THE WHOLE GAME!!
Got him in 2 tries. Had a pretty decently working tactic. Died on the doomcounter the first time but I didn't even see the counter start the 2nd time when I defeated him..
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Looking back, this was even more impressive graphically for its' time than I remember.
I always thought that this game had the best graphics of its generation. It's still beautiful today.
@@Vagabond-Cosmique MGS4 too looks like a final PS3 generation game
Final Fantasy XIII > Final Fantasy XV
@@Mauricio-hr6gu At least I remember XIII compared to XV
This boss' entrance is magnificent in my opinion
+Legophile Yes it is, to me it brings this feeling that you just stepped into something far grand than fighting a regular fantasy creature. This boss and its 3 battles are just that feeling of "OHHHH BOY..." :D
It's definitely in my top 3 of non-final boss intro of all times, along Nachtigal (Tales of Xillia) and Nova Dragon (Final Fantasy IX)
Legophile his voice acting was so awesome in this
it really was, best part of the game imo, when this battle started i was soo hyped and was like 'omg this shit is crazy!', just wished the final climax battles and plot-line carried with that same level of excitement and 'plot-thickening' kind of intrigue
Brynite His exit is sooooooo much better. Barthandelus you bastard, or is it Dysley? All that I know is he's a fucking pest! 2399900465200 Paradigm shifts later.
I tell you now, I learned my place many times before he did.
This boss was fantastic
I faced him yesterday. That was an epic battle. I used Lightning, Hope and Sazh. Barthandelus is fast becoming one of my favourite videogame villains. I love the twist that he was really a Fal'Cie. Lightning and the others looked scared when they saw his real form. I didn't find him as difficult to beat as people said he was. I managed it on my first attempt.
Yeah he's a very good vilain, not perfect a little bit too much redundant but better than ultimecia or kuja
@@BenoitAdam Naah, i think Kuja is way better but i like the fact that the party (even Lightning) are scare when they see his real form
I rushed so much he ended my first run, as I had only a single save I overwrote whenever I came to a terminal, and was so weak I couldn't farm the mob groups around. A few years ago, I bought the game on PC and tried again.
That time I only came to the final area after having farmed max crystarium and max level weapons (available at that point in the game anyway) for EVERYONE. Then I popped every spray and enhancer and kicked the ever living shit out of him. It was great.
if there is one thing i know is never enter a boss battle without haste and bravery
+Roland Scarecrow Especially a mission mark, if you're aiming to get 5 stars. Heck, I always try to get a preemptive strike on a mission just to ensure that I do in fact get 5 stars.
+Logan Dorion me too xD
Remember guys, when Barthandelus starts to charge up destructo, beat the living shit out of him to reduce the damage from this attack.
Waaaa you have saved me... I really didn't know how to kill this fucking monster =)
Ha ha no prob, but make sure to get a lot of CP because the next boss will be even harder. lolz XD
nooooooo..... even worst? in the end I won't be able to finish the game =P
Don't want to spoil anything ................... look down if you wanna know
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Cid. I was stuck fighting him for ever. Lolz, but I think you should be fine if beat this guy. :D
I always have problems with that. I used Combat Clinic Paradigms and I died when he use Destro
"Your kind feared the darkness, so we gave you light"
that one single moment, where the choir starts singing and Lighting makes a scared expression for the first time ever, that one second was the only thing that kept me from going insane when I was trying to beat this guy, it took me a week.
I love at 3:29 , during the paradigm switch she quotes "Barthandelus!" soo much for immersive!!
Yea I know this is an old game but I decided to pull it out and play it again, I’ve always hated this boss fight but I really enjoyed this series (FFXIII) and can say I love it and I don’t understand why so many people hated it...I still don’t understand it 🤷🏻♀️
It's because of how linear it is. There is far less exploration in this game than in the others of the series. It's basically a battle simulator where you walk down one long hallway for 11 chapters, then the game finally opens up a little with one side quest that is repeated numerous times.
@@clintonwilcox4690 sorry but that is not enough to hate the game, not even close, ffxv is open world and is more hated than the xiii series, many other ff is linear or have a empty open world and is not hated like xiii
@@franpereiravmax I must have missed the memo on what is and is not an appropriate reason for hating a game.
Yes, of course, all Final Fantasy games are linear in that they follow a story. But most Final Fantasy games are non-linear in that they involve a massive open world that you can explore and side quests that you can complete to take a break from the main game after a while.
@@franpereiravmax you're right. XII was more open of it's time and was hated, now, the time put it in his place.
In square there must be a great complication cause XBOX 360 and PS3 limitations, Fabula Nova and XII reviews.
They see XII was so hated about the boring long cutscenes, the long open stances, the many side-quest and the characters, specially Vaan. Then they make XIII in base about what people want about XII, then XIII comes out. People don't like cause is linnear and the characters are annoying (for me Vanille and his sounds makes me feel uncomfortable) so, what the hell people want??
The only thing that i don't like is the sounds of Vanille, the repetitive Side Quest (but i can stand it) and the fact that doesn't exist New Game Plus
@@La-hora-del-terror in my case i love everything about Fabula Nova, i've played nearly all FFs (i haven't played only the MMOs, X, XII and XV) and i don't understand the hate, i trully think the problem is the Hype, to all new final fantasy the fandom rise a impossible standart and everything will be a problem to them, they want perfection but nothing is truly perfect (or just a copy of VII, for part of the fandom i think that will work)
I had a team of Lightning, Hope, and Fang. Damn near impossible; attempted this battle 4 times and failed that many times. The most useful paradigms for the popcorn fights in chapter 9 were: (Com, Rav, Rav), (Com, Med, Sen) -- turtle heal, (Com, Rav, Sen) -- turtle attack, (Med, Med, Com). Couldn't crack Barthandelus that way. I switched to Lightning, Hope, and Sahz. New paradigms: (Com, Syn, Syn), (Com, Com, Med), (Rav, Med, Med), (Rav, Rav, Rav). Strategy -- started with (Com, Syn, Syn) -- waited till fully buffed, switched to (Com, Com, Med) -- smacked a head 2-3 times, switched to (Rav, Rav, Rav) and switched back to a med paradigm any time I needed to heal. Always kept an offensive team member out. Barthandelus went down like a chump.
Am I one of the many that thought this boss music was epic? I especially love the lyrics, :D Plus I beat this guy like he was NOTHING!!! XD
PGGreatOak you're not the only one I was shocked to find that it was composed by the composer of Death Note, Hunter x Hunter, Ouran, and Break Blade Yoshihisa Hirano!!
Wow! That's amazing! O:
The way you shift between paradigms is sublime
It almost seems like between 'I'll cover your retreat' and 'why don't you leave, Jihl?' There WAS a fight and it was removed from the game.
TheGuardianCore Yeah, I agree. Considering Jihl basically had Sazh grabbed by the balls at that point, I can easily see a Jihl boss fight where you are forced to play as Sazh (but get to choose the other two members) then after her innevitable defeat, "Why don't you leave, Jihl? Or rather, take your leave"
It would have been pretty epic to have Sazh settle the score with Jihl by slapping the livinf shit out of her.
Man, I wonder how the story between Sahz and Jihl is gonna play out. I mean, there's been so much build up between the two, there's no way this is gonna--
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Oh... nevermind.
Final Fantasy XIII, ladies and gents; where characters either have resolution without establishment, or establishment without resolution.
+KashelGladio haha
Kinda like Game of Thrones.
KashelGladio to be honest they could've had a boss fight with Jihl right before this.
Ex: When they first enter the room, Jihl says her lines, and then boss fight, and then after that we have the resolution between the two, and then Barthandelus kills Jihl, starting the whole confrontation with him.
KashelGladio What? 🙄
I've been stuck on this boss for over 2 years now. He's the only boss I really struggle against in this game
Holy shit I actually managed to beat him after finding a nice strategy on another YT comment section. I'm so glad I clicked on that video
@@Kanzuki I doubt you still remember but do you remember the title of that video? I'm still stuck after ages 😭
just like in most ATB rpg games, Haste (Sazh) and slow are the key to victory. Spent a lot of time trying to deal damage without haste in order to cancel Destrudo, without success of course
Truly is the best team for this fight. I was skeptic about using Sazh at first but his boosts are a must for this fight 👍🏽
Am I the only one who lost more than 5 times to this boss? As far as I remember, Haven't had a harder boss battle before...I only can't think on anyone else except for Nemesis from X
almost 10 years past but it feels like it was yesterday
I like it everytime Lightning shouts Bathandelus!
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Light had a thing of saying the names of his enemies when she is fighting with them
@@La-hora-del-terror yep, really cool...
I remember I was like three hits away from killing this jackass and then he killed me.
I got so freaking pissed.
I occasionally get this game and my old 360 out to play this game and I got to this part and realized just how stupid it is when you don't take in Sahz. I had him at 1k hp and then he killed me
The Pope boss.
Barthandelus: Easily outclassed by a giant turtle and also a big humanoid butterfly
Also Secret Mc Orbington
The giant turtle reminded me of bulbausaur
astralbaby 69 wrong giant turtle
Lol, people say you can just auto battle through this game. This guy wiped the floor with my balls for the better part of a week. I took a three month break before restarting the game and doing tons of grinding 😂
I beat this boss in my first try, it was easy or at least "normal".
The summons are other thing, Alexander was the most harder to defeat
I beat him with poisoning him... Deals huge damage to him (^.^)
You can use what this guy is using - Lightning, Vanille and Sazh with his arrangements, or you could use Snow, Lightning and Hope like I did and make Snow the leader so that when he uses his Destro ability ur on Mediguard/Steelguard.
"Freedom is the right to all sentient beings."
It's over, Prime.
I just have one question. What equipment did you use? I've been stuck on this boss for ages. I took a break for over a year cause I get massively slaughtered every time I fight him. I already added up farm and grind your butt off level gear maxing out crystarium for max effectiveness. Any suggestions on helping me kick this boss's butt from here to Kingdom come. I'm tired of getting my butt kicked. I've even tried different heros I'm just stuck on what equipment to be used. I've even toyed with the idea using Aegisol and Fortisol for the extra help.
- use item libra-scope to scan the boss & boss's parts first
- wipe out all the mini-parts first, then come finish the big boss
- i believe I used Lightning, Snow, Sanz; b/c only these three have 4atb by this time.
- Para:
Com to atk & delay chain-gauge reduce
Rav to fill chain gauge quick
Sent & Medic for survival.
Syn to have Sanz buff your team.
- Call Odin, have Sanz learnt Haste, etc...
- Learn the trick to change-para frequent during fight & abuse Auto-action; so then your atb gauge filled quickly & your character do things nonstop / no-delay.
when team leader done the chain-of-action, u quick change para, & the atb gauge will be full after short para-shift animation > execute the next chain of action / atk.
that like 5-7 sec faster than waiting the gauge filled.
@@efilecir8937 I went in with Light, Vanille, and Sazh.
Before I stated the fight I used the items that give you the buffs.
I started the fight with Com, Rav, Com and just spammed blitz on each of the heads, once those were dead I then used Rav, Rav, Rav and kept hitting Barthandelus until he staggered.
If he’d do the mouth beam I’d wait till the last second and switch to Med, Med, Syn to heal any dmg taken, I’d then switch back to Rav, Rav, Rav and continue damaging him.
As for his charge up multi laser attack dps check thing, while I wasn’t able to knock him out of it, I was able to consistently stagger him and mitigate the dmg from his attack to where it barely damaged my party by switching to Com, Rav, Com to keep start up the chain gauge, and also keep it from going down fast, and then quickly switching to Rav, Rav, Rav the entire time to damage him.
Using this strategy and party I was able to kill him first try in 1min 17sec.
I never saw the boss cast doom which I was actually surprised about.
When I first fought him, I thought he was just a fake-out boss. Then I died to him. I came back with this team and won.
His magic spamming is the worst.
@tonitheking
Someone finally agrees. i mean, look at this. True, it's not as open as the other FF, but had a good but confusing story and awesome gameplay, not to mention that you get great graphics and a system that requires timing and skill. They did great on the music and the characters were top notch!
Thanks bro was straightforward unlike other walkthroughs on this boss
if you cant beat this boss , you cant beat the last one, trust me
shaneclone15 lol last one was easy. But i was at a very high level i must say. This boss fight was just epic and hard for the first time for me :D
Truth. I don't remember how many times I lost to this fight, but I lost four or five times to the last fight until I learned that Poison tears the final boss to shreds, and it really does. I beat him on my first try when I poisoned him.
This is one of these Awesome Final Fantasy Moments :D
this party setup was helpful thanks bro
I had trouble with this fight until i used the same party setup and put on magic resist.Vanille and sazh come in clutch with the buffs and the heals(haste helps a lot),in my experience hope dies way too fast and fang is ok if you want to use her.
2:31 - Where the battle starts
u mad l'Cie?
Barthandelus wasn't even really evil, he just wanted his mommy back.
looks like the faces in both sides of Barthandelus are singing the battle song
Dysley precisely looks like the mad doctor from Human Centipede 1.
you're suppose to keep attacking barthandelus when he's charging up to use his destrudo attack. if you get his chain gauge high enough, you should be able to interrupt his attack.
@xNe0my I think your talking about that attack called destrudo.
When he's charging up for destrudo, turn yourself into a medic and let your two partners attack. While he's still charging, select potions but don't use them yet! as soon as he releases his charge, use it at that exact moment and quickly heal your team w/ cure.
Oh and watch out for doom. (There's no cure for the spell doom-- so you have to kill him ASAP!!)
hope that this helps
I thought I was doing all right, but then I got Doomed, tried an all out Relentless Assault, and got killed. All I had to do was choose better paradigms, and I won on the second try without too great of difficulty.
I was expecting a showdown with Jihl, who I despised as much as any other character. Her end was certainly anticlimactic.
This might be the Final Fantasy-est song in the entire series.
Thank you so much for posting this video. It helped me beat him today haha after 3 hours of bs
@TGMav yea you can. I did it. You don't have to be maxed out to beat this guy, you just can't auto-battle to win it so it takes some actual skill.
This boss is really hard guys, so you just need to setup your party with Sazh, Light and Vanille. Cast Fortisol and Aegisol at the beginning and that is it.
It took me 7mins with Lightning, Sazh and Vanille
@DarkEpyon00 thanks........ i have beat him last night, so i finally get to play the game the first time in 3 months.. all thanks to the video.
I found the secret about this guy, well first kill his heads in whatever order, then when he starts to attack just spam the crap out of him and when he charges destrudo really beat the crap out of him because every time he 'groans' it reduces the damage by a lot, and if you use odin when he's at 50% you can avoid doom altogether. Then he dies.
@RobertCrozier123 If you're talking about "Destrudo", you'll need to switch to a pure offensive paradigm like "Relentless Assault" and go balls-out with damage while he's charging. He'll make a noise and stumble a bit and the damage will be greatly mitigated once it does go off.
I only played this game for a few hours on a rental once, wasn't really for me. But I do remember watching an old friend of mine throw herself at this boss at least 3 times getting brought low by doom each time. I'd say it's worth something when you can make an impression as a videogame boss to someone who's never truly played the game.
dude the heads have diff element weaknesses
far left:ice
left:water
right:fire
far right:thunder
i think the right ones are ok but they could be switched
barthendelus has the best voice acting in this game
Got stuck... Cant beat this, and oddly cant beat the random encounter behind me... No Crystogen=no Haste... No Haste=pulverized by Dustrudo... Pulverized by Destrudo=pissed off me...
Did you end up beating it? Pretty sure you need haste
@@4Brazy nope. I beat 13-2 tho somehow tho...
this feels like everytime a supervisor introduces himself i am supervisor derek voice of HR
Your kind FEEEARED the darkness.
So epic. No Barthy, they fear YOU.
This is almost impossible, I tryied to beat him like 10+ times and cant seem to do it,
It is a fact that Japanese developers pump up the dificulty for the European releases of the games, but we are not THAT good!! Its really frustating.
THANKS for the Minimising-Destrudo part. I had a really good battle team, but because of that destrudo, I didn't get enough time because of the doom he casts. But you didn't even get doom!
@DJzero101 get everyone healed when he's charging destrudo, then buffed if you can manage it, but most importantly go into something like delta attack or relentless assault because you can 'break' his attack so it does less damage, he should grunt if you hit him hard enough and you should survive
i wished i could play this again :(
how did you get your health that high up?
This boss took me 20 mins with Lighting Fang and hope. Hope is paper. And like after I defeated his wings, I was only able to stagger him once. I could not do it again as he resets too fast. I had Rav rav and commando. And could not stagger. I was able to sustain and kill him via chipping his health. Took me 25 mins. I did not die once, but I definitely felt way too weak for this fight. I am scared moving forward. Did I not upgrade my char enough? Or was my team composition completely wrong…..
Dude you are the man i just barely killed this guy off right now with light,hope, and fang and i was just lucky.
His Fal'Cie form reminds me of the angel bosses in Bayonetta.
@Trickster242
And they brought her back as a DLC fight in the Coliseum in FFXIII-2, and was more of a threat.
no its not the final boss,
did anyone else freak out when he says "I am fal'Cie" in his crazy transformers voice haha
I just... I don't know. Dysley didn't struck me at any point as a good villain. He was just... there. We never got to know much about him, he never did something really unforgettable (the Nibelheim incident, Kefka poisoning Doma, NeoExdeath screwing the whole world up, Kuja destroying Terra... see what I mean?). They just needed someone to be the big bad. I think Orphan would be a much better villain, were he the mastermind of the whole plot. Too bad he's just another tool.
@Momentum139 Correction: All but Sazh take a step back... He is badass for a reason.
I loved this boss battle, the music, the voice, oh yeeeeeah!
Fang looks like the only one not afraid of Barthandelus
Just beat this Super Robo Pope boss today, What an intense match that was. That destrudo move is a bitch. Even with Shell, Protect, and Veil on, he still does alot of damage to your party (almost kills me). And if I didn't have these on my party, I would've been dead instantly. THANKS BULLY PARADIGM!!!
The trick to making that more tolerable is to go all out on him while it's charging. Do that enough and some of those bombs will go off prematurely, which weakens the attack for when its let loose. After you trigger that burst, go back on the defensive.
@@AzureMoebius22 I already beat this game many years ago, but thanks anyway.
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this boss wasn´t too hard for me, i beat him without dying. But still it was like 15 minutes past when i beat him but i was sooooo happy
nice video, however it would of been easier using hope and fang in replace of vanille and sazh.
Haste is ok (sazh) but wont help you in the long run when he begins using destructo or w/e its called.
Hope for magic and fang for commando/sentinal.
Hope can fully heal any character with one full atb or cures.
Anyway you looked like you have cp grinded so i was wondering what
weapons and accessories you used for this?
Wow Thanks for da Video IT HELPED ME SO GOOD!
I remember when I beat him for the first time after so much struggling....and my console abruptly shut off during the following cutscene. I think it was because the power cord came undone or something.
My God, that was painful.
i'm still mad Jihl got bodied before we actually had a boss battle with her. Like imagine her given magic on the spot or the tech to mimic magic or something.. Glad she got her chance in 13-2 but still!
@Polardj900CPCP You got it all wrong, dude. Sigma. From Mega Man X. It's him. See? He finally took over the world and now Reploids reign supreme.
Fighting Jihl immediately before Barthandelus would have satisfied the typical "Square" boss sequence...like the Spectral Keeper followed by Yunalesca, haha.
i disagree change sazh with snow to asure that lightning dont die because he will get 70% of damage from destro which leaves 15% to each of the rest
I've stopped playing ffxiii about a year ago, and all this because of this motherf*cking piece of shit, i hate this boss,
This game has the most retarded random difficulty spike ever, even lesser common enemies can outright kill you. I swear the developers did this on purpose to lengthen the game. They even let you restart where you died cuz they know it's bullshit.
***** So salty, you do realise a half an hour of grinding in that area is enough to beat this guy?
***** Any difficulty "spike" during this game is purely perceptual on your part, and can be attributed to your failure to improve your strategies as they slipped from good, to inefficient, to barely workable, to outright failure. Keep up with the learning curve, and the challenge curve keeps up with you.
+tiornys hmm but you can´t kill him when he do a deathmark on you this is just stupid so you can´t beat the boss bc you are just too weak
+Jannick Lumme At normal levels (fought enemies on path without excess grinding) and without using equipment upgrades or shrouds, every possible team is capable of winning this battle in under 10 minutes. The Doom timer kicks in at the 20 minute mark and gives you three extra minutes from that point. Barthandelus is no pushover (he's definitely harder than anything you've fought yet), but he's not unfairly difficult.
Adding shrouds, upgrades, and/or grinding makes the fight significantly easier, especially upgrades. Defensive upgrades like maxed Rune Bracelets make it easier to survive and increase the player's ability to stay in offensive paradigms. Offensive upgrades like weapons and +stat items can roughly double the player's damage output, with obvious benefits in terms of beating the Doom timer.
From a challenge play perspective, there is literally no such thing as being "too weak" for this boss; he can be defeated without using the Crystarium and without upgrading equipment, although this does require shrouds and a very high level of skill.
Having trouble is there any grinding need to done before the battle? What should my equipment stats be at before the battle?
Ok, who else thought those heads on his body were singing the chorus part of the music the first time they played this?
True sentinals are not efficent in this fight but still itsd always good to have a paradigm with a sentinal in it in case you need a damage sponge. Solidarity/delta attack are good for this fight.
when you say default tier 1 weapons were they maxed out tier 1 weapons( with the star) or the basic bread and butter lvl 1 weapons?
What accessories did you use?
@MagicNeinStudios u could avoid it bt u have to time ur attacks well with lightning that flip shot she does as her final attack is actually an evasive tech as well as when lightning first cast a magic spell, when she jumps back its also an evasive tech. its just all about timing enemy attacks its really reliable
Wait, people thought this guy was hard? Lightning, Sazh and Vanille tear him apart. About 5 minutes for this fight.
I didn't realize initially that attacking him during Destrudo actually reduces the damage that you take from him from "may take your main character from full health to zero health" to "barely takes your 3 party members to half health" -- has the extra bonus of letting you chew into his health while he's gearing his big attack. With Lightning, Hope, and Sahz -- he goes down like a chump.
@TGMav well u can always go back and farm theres a farming spot not too far from that position,where all the guards are atu keep fighting them for like a half hr to an hr then you will be alright
I know how you feel, Barthandelus was one of the hardest bosses I've ever fought in this game.
hmmm... you need a sentinal for the first part of the fight( with the four heads) otherwise hope takes a beating...
What accessories did you use?
was your weapons full upgraded tier 1 weapons or very raw lvl 1 weapons?
Man, you make this look easy.
@rtrtrt366 I guess she got turned into a Jihl Sandwich!
I was on this battle so long that he cast doom on me. This was my first time trying to fight him and it was taking me over 40 minutes.
I beat him in about 10 minutes yesterday. And it was the first time I ever faced him too.
I know this comment is old but I managed to beat him first try in about 1min 17sec, never saw him cast doom.
longer than it needed to? did u notice the target time? it is 11 minutes, he is underleveled than most other players that have a 9 minute or less target time (lower target time means you are that much more powerful)
and he did it 4 minutes faster than his target time compared to the others who only did it in 2 minutes faster.
When I first fought this battle I thought after you loss you move one.
i beat this boss first try.. what i did was use light, hope n sazh, start of battle have com/SYN/SYN - hope will cast protect n shell, which all of the bosses attacks wont do much no more so problem solved. sazh will cast haste. then swich to rav on all three characters n kill all the lil heads. then take out the big guy. heal and recast PROTECT wen necessary..
Don't know whats with all the complaints.. he was hard but i thought the challenge was great. Took me about 3 trys.. Nice video! :D
no, but after you fight Barthandelus he will tell you who the final boss is
i dont really think there is a "best" one. thats the awesome thing about FF theyre all so completely different from eachother
@MagicNeinStudios ooops i meant his other attack i forgot what it was called (when he charges up)
I just can't believe Barthandelus killed Nabaat before we could even get a chance to fight her! I mean, c'mon! She's probably the ONLY really evil person on THE WHOLE GAME!!
i like everything about this game except for the battle style i still miss the old one.
Got him in 2 tries. Had a pretty decently working tactic. Died on the doomcounter the first time but I didn't even see the counter start the 2nd time when I defeated him..