TRANSFORMERS: THE BASICS on NEMESIS PRIME

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  • Optimus Prime's evil twin and king of the black repaints - this week, it's The Basics on NEMESIS PRIME!
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  • @djst4rf1re
    @djst4rf1re 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1737

    You thought it was Nemesis Prime! But it was I, Scourge!

    • @cobaltprime9467
      @cobaltprime9467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      And now Scourge is like Dio in my head canon.
      OP: How many protoforms have you killed?
      Scourge: I don’t know. How many energon cubes have you fueled on in your life?
      Part 3
      Scourge: Oh you’re approaching me? Instead of running away, you’re coming closer?
      Rodimus: I can’t beat the scrap out of you without getting closer.
      Muda muda muda!
      Ora Ora Ora!

    • @dekaw9138
      @dekaw9138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Riflemutt Prime i prefer scourage as vegeta

    • @GoddessWhoUsedToKnowToMuch
      @GoddessWhoUsedToKnowToMuch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yare yare daze....

    • @stephenquinn7931
      @stephenquinn7931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have a nam idea, clone convoy

    • @westbreazy9963
      @westbreazy9963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nice diamondbolt reference

  • @HouseholdWheel
    @HouseholdWheel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    I think Scourge did the black convoy thing the best, because he uses a different mold than his Optimus counterpart, unlike every other version of Black Convoy just being black repaints of their respective Primes.

    • @zuttoaragi8349
      @zuttoaragi8349 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah. When I added a Nemesis Prime to my collection, even though I have the Siege Voyager Prime, I got the TR Voyager Nemesis so that they were roughly the same size but completely different molds.

    • @rorylumley4727
      @rorylumley4727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Having his goal of using fortress maximus to conquer the universe and his status as a reoccuring character makes him more memrable.

    • @ryugaknight
      @ryugaknight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Still I would have like to see RID Optimus’ mold decked out in Scourge/ Nemesis’ color scheme.

    • @harrietr.5073
      @harrietr.5073 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's unique to Optimus, he's Scourge, rather than just refraction.

  • @columbatiberius2176
    @columbatiberius2176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had an odd thought; it'd be kind of impossible to do a dark recolour of Optimus Primal on account of being a Gorilla. Solution... an Albino Gorilla. Nemesis Primal!

  • @ripleyandweeds1288
    @ripleyandweeds1288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Nemesis, Black War Greymon called--He wants his character back!

  • @asmodeushare2833
    @asmodeushare2833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lio Convoy is prounounced LEE-Oh like Leo since LI in japanese sounds like Lee. It's why Lion in one fighting game Virtua Fighting is called Leon by the announcer.

    • @ChrisMcFeely
      @ChrisMcFeely  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, it's "Lye-oh." Japanese is a phoenetic language, and the "Lio" in Lio Convoy's name is spelled ライオ, or RA-I-O. It's "Lion" without the "n." It would be "Lee-oh" if it were spelled レオ (RE-O) or リオ (RI-O).

    • @asmodeushare2833
      @asmodeushare2833 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisMcFeely Most of the Lion Convoy media, including toys we used to get from Otasco, I seen spelled it Lio/rio Convoy but I could see the Raio/Laio being as good or better.
      Then again that could just be the shenanigans of the translator that brought that toy over in my area. We didn't have Voltron we had (in English) "Go Lions" and Macross toys too. Forgot the company that did the importing and repackaging though. We got many versions of 'Convoy' from them.
      Definitely need to see if I can find the VHS tapes with that one episode of Beast Era on it. It was basically four cartoons on one tape and one was Transformers: Beast Era and I would swear the voice said Leo convoy with the subtitles reading 'Lio Convoy'

  • @237Grimlock
    @237Grimlock 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i’ve never clicked so fast

  • @jeremytung1632
    @jeremytung1632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Prime’s nemesis was both impressive and a bit of a let down, a whole year of watching Mech be a legitimate threat to cybertronians and the whole thing comes crashing down in a single episode.

  • @bumblebricks3669
    @bumblebricks3669 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I LOVE SCOURGE !

  • @haydenreviewscustomcombos
    @haydenreviewscustomcombos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would really like a transforming figure of Giltor.

  • @taythedogfinnthathamster8557
    @taythedogfinnthathamster8557 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big fan great vid

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So in Car Robots/Robots in Disguise Scourge was the English name but not the Japanese one, but in Armada it was the Japanese one but not the English?

  • @AlmostAnimixers
    @AlmostAnimixers 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1849

    “Nemesis Prime has grown to become the go-to easy recolour for Optimus Prime.”
    Ultra Magnus eat your spark out.

    • @lucebelmont
      @lucebelmont 6 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Nick Ferrazza
      This comment has given me the strength to live on.

    • @gideonfreeman9997
      @gideonfreeman9997 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Nick Ferrazza you spelled optimus' name wrong

    • @AlmostAnimixers
      @AlmostAnimixers 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      My god, you're right. I've brought shame to the Transformers fandom.

    • @JeffreyPiatt
      @JeffreyPiatt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      The first ultra magnus cab was actually a minor retool in addition to being repainted. The powered convoy mold has a longer front axis and altered front wheels to let him dock in to his trailer armor.

    • @demonking86420
      @demonking86420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Nick Ferrazza Well Ultra Magnus tends to be a white Optimus recolor with armor formed from his trailer

  • @jtobligacion472
    @jtobligacion472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +740

    Optimus : One shall Stand One shall fall
    Nemesis : One shall stand All shall fall

    • @NoahDaArk
      @NoahDaArk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      *DAMN!!!* that was badass!!!

    • @irishspartanstudios
      @irishspartanstudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@NoahDaArk Agreed! That was good!

    • @Sir_Bone-Head
      @Sir_Bone-Head 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      SG Optimus: I shall stand, the rest shall fall

    • @ThinSwish
      @ThinSwish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Scourge: damage before destruction
      It’s fanmade

    • @Marcieishereandqueer
      @Marcieishereandqueer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Till all are gone…

  • @celestialspartan1176
    @celestialspartan1176 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    I like the idea of Nemesis Prime being a physical manifestation of Optimus Prime’s inner demons, created by Unicron. Instead of Optimus being a force of good and valor, Nemesis would be a force of malice, hatred, and bloodlust made flesh. A literal demon in Cybertronian form. Armada played with that idea, but it was only implemented in one episode.

    • @alexanderstavroulakis335
      @alexanderstavroulakis335 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      "Made metal" you mean. Also, my favorite interpretation of Nemesis Prime as well.

    • @celestialspartan1176
      @celestialspartan1176 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@alexanderstavroulakis335that’s right! I wish that The Last Knight followed that route, with Optimus being trapped on Cybertron by Quintessa. With her being the “Prime Of Life”, she would clone Optimus, creating Nemesis Prime, and send him to Earth as a “Herald Of The Apocalypse” and working with Megatron. But, with the live-action series being rebooted with Bumblebee and ROTB, maybe we might see a new incarnation of Nemesis Prime in the future.

    • @alexanderstavroulakis335
      @alexanderstavroulakis335 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@celestialspartan1176 Already that would have made The Last Knight much better.
      And as for reusing Nemesis in the reboot, awesome as that would be, they'd probably not do that, as it would confuse the general audience.
      Kinda like in ROTB, with how they made Scourge into Unicron's top minion instead of Galvatron.

  • @megatron2171
    @megatron2171 6 ปีที่แล้ว +743

    TLK optimus prime: im going to kill you
    Bumblebee: optimus its me bumblebee
    Optimus: *WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!!!*

    • @aztn19
      @aztn19 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      DEATHSTROKE I made that same comment when I saw that movie, too LOL!!!

    • @mrmeeseeks5016
      @mrmeeseeks5016 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Cade jumps in front of bumblebee "ITS HIS MOTHER'S NAME!!!"

    • @MCP5030
      @MCP5030 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good one

    • @zacimusprime4865
      @zacimusprime4865 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      DEATHSTROKE yeah cause he’s nemesis lol 😂

    • @boeyzhang8565
      @boeyzhang8565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mrmeeseeks5016 xD

  • @frenzy-r12
    @frenzy-r12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +657

    [Optimus prime] - "Till all are one".
    [Nemesis prime] - "Till all... are gone".

    • @Noaher256
      @Noaher256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      One shall stand, all shall fall

    • @Creation_matrix
      @Creation_matrix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fateh Sahii

    • @ruvenzub
      @ruvenzub 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Isn't that from Johnny Flash

    • @gabuge2928
      @gabuge2928 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yah I'm going to not going to commit

    • @NoName-hy6xj
      @NoName-hy6xj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Noaher256 Nemesis Prime: I shall stand, all shall fall

  • @__sno__3820
    @__sno__3820 6 ปีที่แล้ว +464

    "He's black so he's the bad guy"
    -octopus prym

    • @Jazzys.Prime.Chilling.Time127
      @Jazzys.Prime.Chilling.Time127 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Interesting

    • @cerisem7727
      @cerisem7727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Lol. I used to do that a lot as a kid, anything dark was always a bad guy to me.

    • @marypatry7750
      @marypatry7750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      NEMESIS PRIME HE IS THE EVIL HEARTLESS TRANSFORMERS UNIVERSE TOY CLONE OF OPTIMUS PRIME

    • @marypatry7750
      @marypatry7750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      CODY SHARP JASON JR HE LOVES NEMESIS PRIME AND MOONRACER ALONG WITH ARMADA STARSCREAM HE WILL BE WITH A PARTNER HUMAN FEMALE ALEXIS

    • @luke769animations
      @luke769animations 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      LUZFAREL nice

  • @Signerdragon123
    @Signerdragon123 6 ปีที่แล้ว +443

    To be honest, I'm surprised that Nemesis Prime in the Prime continuity wasn't reused after his only episode. I'd be curious to see if Dark Energon would give that version some form of sentience (though chances are, it would be probably just be a zombified Optimus knockoff if that were the case).

    • @convoy034
      @convoy034 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Signerdragon123 unless megaton and shockwave is able finds a way to make him stable, intelligent and loyal on to them.

    • @marypatry7750
      @marypatry7750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      NEMESIS PRIME HE SAYS HIS LAST WORDS TILL ALL ARE GONE ALONG WITH QUAKE AND THE COMBATICONS

    • @marypatry7750
      @marypatry7750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      TRANSFORMERS UNIVERSE TOY NEMESIS PRIME HE IS THE BEST AWESOME EVIL DECEPTICON LEADER AND HE IS WAY BETTER THEN STARSCREAM AND GALVATRON

    • @LB74
      @LB74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Or else given the spark of life by Unicron.

    • @bionicleanime
      @bionicleanime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Unicron could have also taken control of the body since it was an empty vessel. Would not have had to fight with another's spark if he did.

  • @browntaxi7158
    @browntaxi7158 6 ปีที่แล้ว +803

    Honestly I like the idea of Nemesis Prime being an incarnation of all the negative thoughts Optimus Prime has had. I feel there should be more comic book series that should take that route instead of a character that was created by someone/something else to fight him, having Optimus tackle his own dark thoughts could make some great character development for him in that series.

    • @zacimusprime4865
      @zacimusprime4865 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      BrownTaxi that’s what I’m planning to make him in my series like all of Optimus Prime’s evil and that the more rage and fear Optimus feels the stronger he becomes very evil and dark😎!!!

    • @Fluffkitscripts
      @Fluffkitscripts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Unfortunately that’s the same evil clone storyline everybody does when they want their action show to look deep

    • @charliedixon4465
      @charliedixon4465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I agree. That idea sounds very interesting.

    • @ilikeapples1824
      @ilikeapples1824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ok so how is nemesis prime going to be created then? Your dark thoughts just don't get a living body suddenly out of nowhere, that's why he's going to be obviously created by another character, sure he can still be created from Optimus dark thoughts, but for him to exist, he has to be created by someone else

    • @Frankie-xu6sr
      @Frankie-xu6sr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I like to think that he was created by Unicron as his final attempt to stop Optimus and perhaps bring him to his side

  • @todddavis2041
    @todddavis2041 6 ปีที่แล้ว +331

    I'm a little old fashioned, I like RID Scourge and Armada Nemesis Prime, Now I want to see Nemesis Primal!

    • @mrsamaritan6881
      @mrsamaritan6881 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      We already have seen a Nemesis Primal, Onyx Primal was a "Nemesis Prime" version of Optimus Primal. Unfortunately Chris McFeely forgot to include Onyx Primal in this video.

    • @todddavis2041
      @todddavis2041 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ive heard the name, but had no idea of the significance!

    • @pranavmathur2733
      @pranavmathur2733 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also kind of liked the two!!

    • @pranavmathur2733
      @pranavmathur2733 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mrsamaritan6881 excuse me!! Who are Nemesis Primal and Onyx Primal?

    • @carbootstudios2459
      @carbootstudios2459 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Since Optimus Primal is already black, Nemesis Primal would most likely be white? Maybe?

  • @vickerandflips8061
    @vickerandflips8061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Chris forgot the greatest Nemesis Prime story ever:
    *The JohnnyFlash series!*

    • @gamingraptorpro1800
      @gamingraptorpro1800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As for continuity, it's really all over the place.

    • @NathanielHarkness
      @NathanielHarkness 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree he really missed a great series

  • @jersstuff3458
    @jersstuff3458 6 ปีที่แล้ว +508

    Even as a huge transformer nerd who already knows most of this, this series is so much fun to watch! The editing and voice work are on point!

  • @Sofubi
    @Sofubi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    I always thought that Nemesis Prime was inspired by G1 Motormaster who looks a lot like Optimus Prime in truck mode.

    • @kevinallen2395
      @kevinallen2395 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I agree that would make a better origin story for Nemisis prime especially since motor master was the stunticons leader and had Nemisis primes color scheme is the same as motor masters?

    • @icdeadpipol
      @icdeadpipol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Was actually surprise Nemesis Prime exists since Motormaster was the first in the series (albeit with a different transformation style )

    • @jji6236
      @jji6236 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@icdeadpipol
      Yeah. Nemesis prime is transforms from a truck cab, motor master transformed from the entire truck and trailer

  • @LordProteus
    @LordProteus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Nemesis Prime is undoubtedly one of the coolest names in the franchise.

  • @spencersholden
    @spencersholden 6 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    Mech was the best human villain team in Transformers.

    • @LB74
      @LB74 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I agree, always a little bit bummed how they were taken off the field after the "The Human Factor" episode.

    • @Soldier-wi8ps
      @Soldier-wi8ps 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@LB74
      Right?? It is Silas's dumbass fault though.
      Bitch thought simply because he was a transformer now he saw himself as a big shot but SIKE!
      After he straight up should have died, his loyal homies got to him before the authorities did. Stabilized him, AND went with a bizarre alternative to bring him back to life but the fact that the plan worked truly shows all their work, talent and research paid off. Silas was back in one hell of a big badass powerful body. And how does he thank his loyal men?
      Simply killed them because he felt he had no need for them and wanted to be a bad guy transformer. Look where that got him. Megatron being the sinister ugly monster he is would never allow an "underling" among his ranks, his warship and near his very presence. Silas unfortunately got what he deserved.

    • @marydpatry1523
      @marydpatry1523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      TRUE BUT THAN NEMESIS PRIME AND YOU HAVE FAILED ME SILAS YOU LET IT OPTIMUS PRIME BEATING YOU

    • @marydpatry1523
      @marydpatry1523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TRANSFORMERS POWER OF THE PRIMES TOY THEY HAVE A NEW NEMESIS PRIME WITH GIZA HIS OWN SWORD MINI CON

    • @johnnygyro2295
      @johnnygyro2295 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      MECH wasn't bad, though I prefer Dr Morocco.

  • @tayojones9460
    @tayojones9460 6 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Scourge from RiD should have been the main antagonist after Megatron. He was smarter, more cunning and had his own arc. He wasn't just an evil Optimus, he was his own character.
    Nova Prime is what Scourge could have been if he was not turned into a slave of Megatron.
    Thanks for another great Video Chris. Any plans on doing Galvatron at some point?

  • @incogni-bro8276
    @incogni-bro8276 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I loved the Transformers Prime version, even if it was only a human remotely controlling a robot.

  • @wdcain1
    @wdcain1 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love the take that Nemesis Prime is just Optimus' corpse being puppetted by Unicron and powered by dark energon, reducing the great hero to a berserking zombie.

    • @TMF979Resurge
      @TMF979Resurge 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Technically would be a revenant since it's a errant wicked soul/entity possessing a different body

  • @bbrigman9382
    @bbrigman9382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like the WFC idea of Nemesis Prime in that he is an alternative universe future OP that was turned and enslaved by Unicron.

  • @ArcanaStorm
    @ArcanaStorm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Hey, remember that time he attacked Santa’s village, destroyed it, burned his reindeer alive, and attempted to strangle Santa.

  • @shadowmarauder6033
    @shadowmarauder6033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love the character, whim I first saw in tfp, but I wish the bayverse version wasn’t actually optimus himself. Instead, I wish that Quintessa had instead maintained optimus prisoner and, using her great power, created nemesis from all the anger, selfishness, and sadness of optimus prime. Then, she would send him to earth pretending to be optimus, until bumblebee would get suspicious and find out the truth.

  • @Lukusprime
    @Lukusprime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Chris‘s voice is enough to make the Bayformers plots sound compelling.

  • @kevinchester5217
    @kevinchester5217 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ive always liked the idea of Nemesis being an unstable evil clone of Prime.
    Think of it like Megatron attempted to clone Optimus to create a servant as powerful as Optimus, but it goes horribly wrong and what comes out is Nemesis, an evil, nearly uncontrollable clone of Prime. Feel like this would make a good one off comic.

  • @crashdgamer
    @crashdgamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think if Hasbro opted to go for a black, grey and teal colour scheme for Nemesis Prime in The Last Knight, rather than just changing his optic colour and putting a red streak across the side of his face, that would be my favourite version

  • @araknidude
    @araknidude 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I find it really funny that Nemesis Prime himself really isn’t a super interesting character concept (‘Optimus Prime but evil and colored black and also not a main antagonist’) but he keeps coming back because his name and color scheme are ridiculously cool

  • @Ryguy0707
    @Ryguy0707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm here because of the Netflix series.
    SPOILER.
    .
    .
    I love the idea that he is now an evil version of a future OP through Unicron, just like Galvatron

  • @MichaelAlexKawa
    @MichaelAlexKawa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Scourge is of course my favorite of the "Nemesis Primes", because I love the figure he is a recolor of, he was more then just a clone, he was not really a throw away character, and well he was my first experience with the "Nemesis" concept. So in a way I find him to be the prime of the Nemesis Primes.
    Awesome video BTW.

  • @destronlaserwave9566
    @destronlaserwave9566 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Video ideas:
    The basics on Jazz: Let's see how the autobot's second in command changed over the years, and how he impacted the franchise.
    The basics on Wheeljack: A fan favorite autobot, who was a scientist and a ninja.
    The basics on Onslaught: the leader of my favorite special team.
    The basics on swindle: Let's see how this con-man became one of the series most popular characters.
    The basics on Brawl: my favorite combaticon, who is an over-all fun character.
    The basics on female transformers: transformers is not a franchise known for it's female characters, let's give these characters some love.
    That's the video subjects I whould like to see. Sorry about my grammar, I just really wanna see these subjects and characters.

    • @luvblueybingoheeler3150
      @luvblueybingoheeler3150 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kablam zowie!
      Cool. I have one too
      Rodimus ( yes G1 s3 Rodimus sucks, but that doesn't mean all of them do )
      Springer
      Blurr
      Wheelie

    • @mrsamaritan6881
      @mrsamaritan6881 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasn't Prowl the original second in command (before being replaced with Ultra Magnus)?

    • @destronlaserwave9566
      @destronlaserwave9566 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr Samaritan
      I always thought jazz was second in command. I think prowl is cool, but I have little knowledge on the character. Also ultra magnus wasn't second in command until rodimus came.

  • @ccody-long6915
    @ccody-long6915 6 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Could you do a basics video on the Quintessons?

    • @ChrisMcFeely
      @ChrisMcFeely  6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The Quintessons would definitely warrant a video of their own in the future in addition to that one, though!

    • @ccody-long6915
      @ccody-long6915 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Chris McFeely oh Primus, I have the memory of a goldfish, sorry

    • @stephaniemckeever5864
      @stephaniemckeever5864 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chris McFeely love it.....and thankfully you did NOT include the g1 japanese exclusive 'nucleon quest convoy' which although black was NOT a nemises prime.

    • @itsamewow3100
      @itsamewow3100 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris McFeely could you also do a video on Transformers Cybertron and the Omega Lock. The show had this thing called the Omega Lock that was powered by these things called the cyber planet keys that were scattered on 4 different worlds. I was hoping you could explain more about there origin of the Omega Lock and it’s link to the different races of transformers

    • @johnnygyro2295
      @johnnygyro2295 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisMcFeely
      Since Nova Prime was mentioned near the end of the video, any chance we can get a basics on him?

  • @SurgeParad0x
    @SurgeParad0x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like War for Cybertron Trilogy's approach with Nemesis Prime where he's from a timeline where Optimus Prime became what Sky Lynx warned him about.

  • @pancho855
    @pancho855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An evil version of the face of the franchise? Who in his first appearance went by "Scourge"? A'm i seeing a coincidence? Sonic the hedgehog Archie story, i'm looking at you.

  • @gadielgonzalez2755
    @gadielgonzalez2755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anyone back here after seeing Nemesis Prime in the kingdom trailer?

  • @Theorymus
    @Theorymus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this video also i made a video about soundwaves minions in the movievers i hope you could do a g1 spin on it 👍

  • @nolancarey6244
    @nolancarey6244 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Armada Nemesis and Universe Nemesis are my favorite versions of the character. I love the idea of a tortured and broken optimums from the universe story. But the Armada one is my go to Nemesis character. He's cold, ruthless, insane, and just scary for him to be a one off character. The best part of Nemesis though is how he doesn't pick being an Autobot or Deception.

    • @sockshandle
      @sockshandle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What if optimus were tortured and as you said broken? I imagine that his personality would take a DRASTIC shift crueler had a temper that you could easily set off and more bloodthirsty possibly more sarcastic but how would the matrix take to that? And what side would he take?

    • @boeyzhang8565
      @boeyzhang8565 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lololol Nightwolf

  • @Majin-Riku
    @Majin-Riku 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I love your video's Chris! They are very educational!😊

  • @Perradocx
    @Perradocx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Pff, Arch Nemesis Prime. Great job, McFeely.

  • @red-ops9813
    @red-ops9813 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    DO A SIDEWAYS!

  • @keegancolby136
    @keegancolby136 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Wait, he faded out of existence?
    I DON'T FEEL SO GOOD
    (sorry not sorry)

  • @johnlukan230
    @johnlukan230 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Please do one about Nova Prime! I genuinely forgot about him but he's a freaking badass!

  • @stephencastro4723
    @stephencastro4723 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If Ultra Magnus was the white duplicate of Optimus Prime, Nemesis Prime is simply his black duplicate. Wouldn't it be cool if there is also a black version of the Ultra Magnus toy?

    • @megathot3734
      @megathot3734 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stephen Castro and then white duplicate of Nemesis and yellow or whatever duplicate of Megs? 😂

    • @stephencastro4723
      @stephencastro4723 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Al Zbeta i have no idea yet of that yellow duplicate of Megatron. All i know is that Nemesis Prime is a black duplicate of Optimus while Ultra Magnus is a white dulicate of him. About the black Ultra Magnus toy i am imagining, that would compose of black cab robo and whatever color of the trailer would be.

    • @davidarnold373
      @davidarnold373 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually there is the lucky draw black Magnus uses the same mold as car robots/ rid ultra Magnus

  • @meekus3
    @meekus3 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you for this one, Chris! I personally love the less-used idea that Nemesis is a dark reflection of Optimus...the very idea that such a paragon of virtue and justice can have a cruel, hidden dark side that can potentially be exploited is too good for the story-teller in me to ignore.
    And I never realized that Scourge and Armada Nemesis were the first couple incarnations we in the West ever received...makes my collection feel a teeny bit more special 😁

    • @mrsamaritan6881
      @mrsamaritan6881 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scourge was the first incarnation we got in the west for Optimus Prime, but we did get one even sooner of Optimus Primal, called Onyx Primal as the name "Nemesis" hadn't been established yet and "Onyx" allowed him to keep the initials O.P. It was a Botcon Convention exclusive though.

  • @zacimusprime4865
    @zacimusprime4865 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love nemesis prime he’s one of the most badass transformers ever😄😄😄😄😎😎😎😎😊👍🏻!!! So is scourge nemesis ? yeah pretty much I guess lol 😂

  • @rorylumley1681
    @rorylumley1681 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Scorge is defintly my favorite as he was an actual character that did stuff rather than generic one shot evil optimus prime.

  • @battleupsaber462
    @battleupsaber462 6 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Scourge is too good to be lumped in with the rest of these guys

    • @rorylumley9088
      @rorylumley9088 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      BattleUp Saber i agree scourge is an actual character who was an intragral part of the story rather than a one shot evil optimus prime by far my favorite evil optimus.

    • @ChomeDome
      @ChomeDome 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      There's a lot of transformers out there that are important characters to one story and then just a throwaway homage in other stories, Scouge is no exception.

    • @omegaus817
      @omegaus817 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes Scouge name is cool.

    • @AaronSoul725
      @AaronSoul725 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      BattleUp Saber love Scourge.

    • @goldgodryukendo913x
      @goldgodryukendo913x 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scourge Prime. they should name the next recolor that.

  • @stevenlawson2431
    @stevenlawson2431 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Transformers prime nemesis prime was an absolute disgrace.

  • @BlackTungsten
    @BlackTungsten 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a side thought, the Prime version of Nemesis shares similarities with Bizarro of all things. A dull pallet clone created by the mad science of a villain voiced by Clancy Brown. Silas for one, Lex Luthor for another. Coincidence or homage? No idea. But I found it a neat observation all the same.

  • @cobaltprime9467
    @cobaltprime9467 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    “Arch Nemesis Prime” that should be what he’s called

  • @Gojiragon
    @Gojiragon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I’ve kind of had this idea for The Animated line, where Sentinel after being foiled by Optimus in some scheme that would see him truely go bad, would adapt to look like him after this but in black and red colors, in order to mock him and joined the decepticons.

  • @CircuitBird
    @CircuitBird 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Let's not forget the OG Nemesis Prime, Motormaster, leader of the Stunticons! He rivalled Optimus in a good chunk of episodes and Optimus had even disguised himself as Motormaster, along with other autobots, whom had also disguised themselves as other Stunitcons and were even able to combine into a fake Menasor!

  • @vagonhidratado108
    @vagonhidratado108 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does this guy even exists!?
    Motor máster could have easilly taken its place

  • @maskedriderweaver4122
    @maskedriderweaver4122 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Wow, very impressive. I thought that Scourge was the original version, not knowing about Beast Wars II/Beast Wars Neo until much later. While I have always liked the concept, I had no idea it was so varied or had spread so far. Thank you for this video and this series, expanding the minds of fans old and new.

    • @maskedriderweaver4122
      @maskedriderweaver4122 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately, reusing molds is a time honored if frustrating Hasbro tradition. Still, it has led to the creation of some interesting concepts and some great characters.

    • @maskedriderweaver4122
      @maskedriderweaver4122 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I concur. I believe the laser Optimus was part of the Machine Wars line, which was not well received, perhaps because none of the figures really worked for the characters they were supposed to represent.

    • @mrsamaritan6881
      @mrsamaritan6881 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Laser Optimus Prime was a post-G2 version of the character, Machine Wars Optimus Prime was actually a repaint of Thunderclash, a European exclusive.

  • @superomegaprimemk2
    @superomegaprimemk2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My biggest problem with Nemesis prime, he just keeps getting written out of stories to easily when there is potental to make him a bad ass, the sort of origins I have in mind is that he not just some clone or human built Optimus prime knock off but he is Optimus prime but from a alterative Universe, one where he gives up on humanty and looses his compasion to become something more, he simply cannot be satifed with having revenge or slaughter in one universe, he has to travel to the past of another universe but not from Unicron's power or a minion to Unicron but by choice and his own will, he wants to correct his mistakes, pretty much he becomes far more dangerous than Megatron, someone who not willing to give second chances!

  • @NaD-o2p
    @NaD-o2p 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I prefer the Nova Prime concept for the Nemesis Prime character. All the other concepts just seem like laziness and/or bad writing to me. The worst two are: the human created one in Transformers Prime and the god awful plot in Transformers 5. The Nova Prime concept is very interesting and even scary, when you research into it a bit.

  • @jash4966
    @jash4966 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Which name do you prefer nemesis prime or black convoy?

    • @devinweathers7520
      @devinweathers7520 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jashandeep Singh both

    • @Phantom_35
      @Phantom_35 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought they were the same

    • @Phantom_35
      @Phantom_35 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      sorry read the comment wrong- I think nemesis prime sounds cooler

    • @angell.rodriguezperez7427
      @angell.rodriguezperez7427 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nemesis Prime is how I knew him

    • @misterbadguy7325
      @misterbadguy7325 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they both sound doofy. Honestly, I'd say part of the reason Scourge is the only one that actually stuck around is that "Scourge" is a much better name. Unfortunately, that name's taken.

  • @phillipjohnson8903
    @phillipjohnson8903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I gotta say I LOVE this series. I've been watching your videos all day. Keep up the great work, this is fascinating!

  • @Depth217
    @Depth217 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ah. Now I see why RID Scourge was so popular!

  • @大場奏
    @大場奏 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Qトランスフォーマーシリーズの、アニメ版nemesisPRIMEと、映画版nemesisPRIMEが、すごくほしいです!

  • @Viperzilla1
    @Viperzilla1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder...what if there was an evil clone of an evil clone would the evil clone of the evil clone be a good guy since he would be the opposite of the evil clone or would he still be evil

    • @chiaraj1003
      @chiaraj1003 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He'd probably be just a worse, more evil version of the evil clone

    • @themostbritishpersonalive868
      @themostbritishpersonalive868 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chiaraj1003 what would an evil nemesis prime be cause I'm thinking megatronus prime also he punches Megatron in the face

  • @blazedyasa
    @blazedyasa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can you do a video on Machine Wars.
    I'm a new subscriber and live your vids.
    Keep it up ma man.

  • @realVoltairex
    @realVoltairex 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Scourge was the most flushed out version in my opinion and thus my favorite.
    I would love to see a video on Punch/Counterpunch if you ever get around to it. Or maybe just the idea of double spies!

  • @ALiteralLamp
    @ALiteralLamp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Personally I’m a big fan of Dead Matrix Nemesis Prime being an alternate universe Optimus who Unicron tortured into becoming a masochistic sadist hell bent on destruction

  • @eddieambriz2814
    @eddieambriz2814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Basics on Scourge , please ?

  • @magatetus
    @magatetus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I could do a Nemesis Prime storyline, my version would be he's the evil version from the shatter glass universe.

  • @MrDoctorVK
    @MrDoctorVK 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My only Nemesis Prime is Bot Shot Nemesis Prime.

    • @Jazzys.Prime.Chilling.Time127
      @Jazzys.Prime.Chilling.Time127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can call Nemesis my old tlk voyager (2017) but i have him like knight form optimus like my tf1-2 optimus figures for old design
      Sorry my grammar, I'm not from USA or UK

  • @teridaxmakuta8190
    @teridaxmakuta8190 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Evil mammoth is the most cool beastformer ever.

  • @96megatron
    @96megatron 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I kind of like Nemesis Prime in The Last Knight.
    "I fight for my own kind! My own planet!"
    It was Optimus Prime's hidden desires brought out through reprogramming taking away his morals of not sacrificing innocent life to achieve Cybertron's Rejuvenation. Something Megatron has no trouble with. And I like that they used Bumblebee's voice as a way to snap Prime out of it taken directly from Attack of the Autobot. Although Bumblebee also had a device, but him talking to Prime made it easier to put it on him. I do wish Hot Rod also fought alongside Bumblebee that way we can have both Attack of the Autobots and Dark Awakening when Hot Rod fought a brainwashed Optimus Prime.

  • @eddiejmartinez8631
    @eddiejmartinez8631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nemesis Prime should’ve been the villain in Age of Extinction instead of Lockdown or Galvatron, as a reborn Sentinel Prime, rebuilt by KSI for one thing and one thing only: kill Optimus Prime. Why? Because Sentinel was the only transformer who could defeat Optimus anytime, anywhere. Megatron only beat him a couple times but Sentinel? He could scrap Optimus in less than a minute

  • @samwatson-tayler2805
    @samwatson-tayler2805 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    RID Scourge is best Scourge and best Nemesis Prime, don't @ me.

  • @dreamkeem1119
    @dreamkeem1119 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The bayverse nemesis prime was so bad I laughed the first time it was shown in theaters 😂

  • @TrapToise
    @TrapToise 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    +Chris McFeely FUCK YES, FUCK YES, FUCK YES, my absolute favorite character in all of Transformers finally gets a video made after him! Thank you so much Chris, not only did I enjoy this video the most and now my top favorite of yours, I learned new things about the history of this Character! Thank you so much! Much love and support on my end, keep it up!

  • @marsaustralis6881
    @marsaustralis6881 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Personally, I was disappointed that the truck that would become Human-created Galvatron/Megatron in Age of Extinction wasn't Nemesis Prime. It would have been far more interesting to see a the movie-verse bring in a human-created Optimus Prime copy who gains sentience and became Nemesis Prime.
    That aside, it'd be nice to see a series in which Nemesis Prime ends up as the real opponent; initially appearing loyal to the Decepticon cause, suddenly killing Megatron and his loyal second Soundwave, and turning the Decepticons into a competent force, giving the Autobots one hell of a time. Either him or RiD Scourge (a variant of him anyway; Scourge Prime?).

  • @loviehawkins4861
    @loviehawkins4861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    (Optimus Prime) One shall stand one shall fall
    (Nemesis Prime) One shall stand all shall fall

  • @Blitzo8390
    @Blitzo8390 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Basics on Cliffjumper

    • @s.m.c2764
      @s.m.c2764 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Captain Michael J. Caboose yeah that would be great

    • @nil981
      @nil981 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is to transformers what Kenny is to south park.

    • @James-mq8mh
      @James-mq8mh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Patrick Milewski I think your thinking of dirge cliffjumper has only died 3 times

  • @whichDude
    @whichDude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love Transformers Prime, but I hated their Nemesis Prime. Silas combat training beating Optimus so effortlessly despite Optimus extreme combat history. I think Megatron even said that they have a millenia worth of data proving how unstoppable Optimus is, but Silas can still effortlessly beat him up.

    • @8ball180
      @8ball180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah the MECH episodes were pretty bad, everyone became dumber for the sake of plot

  • @gammagrubby155
    @gammagrubby155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nemesis prime needs to come back

  • @freddyfaz8875
    @freddyfaz8875 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nemesis Prime and Optimus Primal are my favorite TRANSFORMERS characters!

  • @derekosoriomartinez5974
    @derekosoriomartinez5974 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Reminds me of the Alters from Fate/ Grand Order

  • @rorylumley4727
    @rorylumley4727 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Basics on thundercracker please.

    • @luvblueybingoheeler3150
      @luvblueybingoheeler3150 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rory Lumley
      Yes please

    • @Wolfie1262
      @Wolfie1262 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lol I see you say this on every video I've watched.
      That's perseverance!

    • @rexgamewell
      @rexgamewell 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why?

    • @marcushicks380
      @marcushicks380 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why? That would be even less interesting as the one on Skywarp. And I like Skywarp! At least Skywarp had a cool power. Thundercracker is just....loud.

    • @__sno__3820
      @__sno__3820 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rory Lumley he cracks thunder
      Done

  • @Toastman30K
    @Toastman30K 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why can't I stop watching this?

  • @LB74
    @LB74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nemesis Prime looks to be making an appearance in the next chapter of Netflix's TRANSFORMERS:WAR FOR CYBERTRON series, EARTHRISE.

  • @thelegenddream019
    @thelegenddream019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact that the easily toy to made is nemesis prime A.K.A black convoy
    Because they just need to do is repaint the original Optimus prime
    LOL... That's a big brain move hasbro and takara.... 😂😂😂😂
    Hey takara and hasbro you will never
    Tricks us again hahaha haha!!!

  • @sivanlevi3867
    @sivanlevi3867 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm making Transformers fanfiction and my Nemesis Prime role will be more or less comparable to the War for Cybertron trilogy. A herald for Unicron alongside Galvatron, Scourge and Cyclonus.

  • @TimmyDLC
    @TimmyDLC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Scurge was dope AF
    ALSO black war greymon

  • @alamanderflash
    @alamanderflash 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've always thought that Motormaster had to have had some influence on this concept as well. I mean, he's a black and gray semi that sees Optimus as his rival for the title of "King of the Road".

    • @mr.motormaster9881
      @mr.motormaster9881 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you got that right

    • @chiaraj1003
      @chiaraj1003 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always thought that it came from Knight Rider to be honest. Come to think of it there were some parallels from these two shows. Not many, but some

  • @RDPendleton
    @RDPendleton 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Toxitron is my go-to doppelganger.

  • @noone-ov3cp
    @noone-ov3cp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I realize it’s late but I LOVE the interpretation of the Netflix show we’re Nemesis is a Unicron possessed version of Optimus, in the same vein (and comrade) of Galvatron

  • @joseluissifuentes8639
    @joseluissifuentes8639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even Nemesis Prime may be evil, but he can be good like Shadow the hedgehog

  • @mc-maitrixgaming4330
    @mc-maitrixgaming4330 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still think that nemesis prime of tf prime should’ve been what cylas was revived in rather than breakdown it would’ve been cool to see a fake Optimus prime try to join the decepticons even incorporating some of breakdowns body parts in a new body would’ve looked amazing especially after being turned into the terracon vampire zombie state

  • @saaam5766
    @saaam5766 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    A basics on IDW Megatron would be awesome

  • @TFfangeek
    @TFfangeek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can not decide to either get the Takara Tomy United Black Optimus Prime or the Legends LG-EX Black Convoy? Which would you choose?