TRANSFORMERS: THE BASICS on THE FALLEN
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- Heading deep into Cybertronian lore this week with a look at The Basics on MEGATRONUS, one of the original Thirteen Primes - aka THE FALLEN!
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Can we just talk about the fact that Shockwave is technically the root of all evil in the IDW transformers lore?
He invented everything
Simply the most efficient Decepticon
It's only logical ;)
I mean, I've thought for I while now that he's arguably more evil than Megatron; between the Marvel Comics, Fall of Cybertron, War for Cybertron: Earthrise, and the IDW comics. Yet, somehow, I've taken a liking to this cold-blooded, camera-headed, creep. I guess I'm drawn in by his focus on logic. His lack of emotions and expressionless face would suggest he could pass for an ordinary robot, but the scary truth is that there's a cunning mind inside that camera head of his. His loyalties are pretty clear; he defers to logic first, the Decepticon cause second, and Megatron third. His uncompromising logical nature and his ambition unhindered by emotion really make him a scary character, in a thrilling chilling sense.
@@DonovanFox-kd1gb Ooooof course he did. lol
You CAN see The Fallen’s alt mode incredibly briefly in Revenge of the Fallen. While he’s teleporting around as an indistinct blur in the battle in Egypt you can see- if you pause the footage- that he’s in the shape of his toy’s shuttle mode.
Thank you. That was my first reaction to that part of the video: "What? No! You can too see his jet form in the movie!"
Get this man higher up in the comment section
Guys, he's really not. He's in robot mode with his limbs splayed out - which is what the basic silhouette of his nonsense-jet mode looks like, which is why people think that. imgur.com/a/YxCdq5C
he just looks like kinda of a + shape in the few frames he's on screen in the bit I'm describing tho
Personally it never really bothered me that the Fallen never transformed in the film despite his toy showing that he did.
I always saw it as a nice callback to how in G1, the very first Cybertronians never could transform.
I first encountered Megatronus/Fallen in the Bayverse movies though, in hindsight, his backstory feels empty without Unicron. Plus, thanks to the Sentinel, Optimus having to deal with two evil predecessors feels redundant.
That being said, Megatronus' backstories before and after said film, being a disciple of Unicron and tragic romance with Solus Prime are definitely interesting.
I like the incarnation of the fallen from prime where he exiled himself for accidentally killing Solus, it shows that megatron’s inspiration was of false legends and the real megatronus was in a way a victim to bullying his brothers
Possible redemption story arc material?
Honestly, yea, RID ruined it... Like most things, but let's just pretend it doesn't exist.
I prefer the title 'The Fallen' over 'Megatronus Prime'. Itself simple and tells you everything you need to know about the character.
Megatronus is clearly taken from Megatron. Plus the title Prime.
When I first heard this name i got confused and thought he was an upgraded version of Megatron
Well Optimus is now the reincarnation of the 13th prime...watch in some future transformers series or continuity had the fallen be megatron's previous incarnation. Which gets ultra Magnus and elita one up there too. I mean really OP is the only one of his brothers that got reincarnated...it just makes now sense
I have learned about the Fallen through the movie of all things, his origins in Aligned and Machemia were my favorite. This video is most detailed on the different version of the character. Keep up the good work, you are amazing at your Transformers research one of the best.
I know many fans dont like it but growing up I met the Fallen in TF ROF when I was about 6. The aligned backstory has been my fav. I hope, if u havent already, make a video on Solis Prime as after watching this I think she deserved some recognition besides being killed alot😁
I hope the Fallen gets a new toy in the Transformers Legacy toy line.
1990: Waiting for Saturday to come to watch Transformers on TV
2020: Waiting for Saturday to come to watch Transformers: The Basics on TH-cam.
I guess some things don't really change.
I love the d.w. comics transformers. It's the only series I pick up and re read since I've bought what I got nearly half a lifetime ago. I still have some framed posters too, their artwork was so nice
Megatronus in POWER OF THE PRIMES series is badass he is unstoppable
I really wish I had a time machine so that I could go back in time to the meeting where some writer suggested that "Megatronus Prime" was a good villain name, and then punch them repeatedly in the head.
Indeed, I always felt that just MEGATRONUS was already good enough. Adding the Prime title just makes it longer than necessary. Besides it was established in the Primes vid that not all of its members held the title. Otherwise we’d get equally silly names like Liege Maximo Prime.
@@myriadmediamusings Be glad it isn't longer. Just think. "Megatronus Sentinel Zeta Prime"
@@myriadmediamusings Even Megatronus always sounded really clunky to me. Doesn't flow off the tongue.
Mister Bad Guy that sound more of a YOU problem
@@bloodbrawler1438 *DON'T YOU DARE! NO! BAD! DON'T EVEN JOKE ABOUT IT!*
I love the tragic backstory of Megatronus
Anyone else think it's a crime that we never got a version of The Fallen voiced by Michael Ironside?
Please do Cliffjumper next
Well fun fact about the fallen megatron served him because he is named after him
That maximo guy is literally loki
I never truly knew about this character even though I have seen Revenge of the Fallen. I thought he was a character created for the movie. I didn’t know that there was more to the overall story.
Actually what a coincidence that 13 Primes and 13 original Transformers when it started. Coincidence, right ?
Even if he's called the fallen i still call him megatronous.
The title font "The Basics on THE FALLEN" looks like this should have been a Halloween episode
I hope you'll talked about the other primes in the future.
If megatronious scanned an earth alternate mode what do you think it would have been? Cause I think a stealth bomber good choice.
The closest thing we got to an alternate form was from his 2009 delux class figure. It showed him as a Cybertronian jet form, similar to Megatron, but kinda more intimidating looking
Asmodai, I think we're in the wrong place.
I still have VECTOR PRIME and many others including Megatron ,Galvatron and Optimus worth alot of money
I don’t like the idea that such an ancient transformer transforms into a... a tank 😐
I can’t believe I’m gonna say this but I prefer the film version even if that film is TRASH
Funny enough there's one frame of it having an alt mode
After he takes the matrix he teleports to the pyramid and see him in a jet ish look and unfolds
Gangly alien jet thing that teleports fits better than just tank
Aligned is unequivocally the best version of Megatronus in my mind. I never knew much about Dreamwave while it has happening, and still don't. The movie version is fine, just general villain stuff. The IDW version needs to go away and stay there.
I love Megatronus’s (aka. The Fallen) new backstory. His story reminds me of Anakin’s transformation into Darth Vader from Star Wars.
So who is the emperor...Unicron?
@@brandonspeagle9950 in some continuities, pretty much.
3:09
MB: So the studio says I can't just have megatron be the bad guy again but exploding every five seconds, what other TF bad guys are there?
Hasbro: (shows pictures of every evil transformer character)
MB: Hold up......is that guy on fire?
Hasbro: Yes mister bay I believe he...
MB: And we have a main villain......now how do you guys feel about ball jokes?
The basics on the swollen.
So cool 😎
Megatronus, the fallen, the transformers lucifer to unicrons satan
Tragic hero of his own tale who refuses to let things end
Then theres that time he was used by a futureman who just loooooves expirements
This episode has fallen out of nowhere
the basics on countdown
Can you do other things other than Transformers? Do a topic on Sonic the Hedgehog
I personally like the movie incarnation the best, I think its cool how he manipulated Megatron into becoming evil
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Megatronus the Fallen?
I thought not. It's not a story the Autobots would tell you. It's a Decepticon legend. Megatronus was a Transformer created by Primus, so powerful and so wise he could use the Energon Harvester to influence the Allspark to create...life. He had a loving relationship with Solus Prime that he was driven to keep the one he cared about from dying. And...the dark temptations of Liege Maximo is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful...the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, the dark influence turned him against his Conjux Endura; then he killed Solus, his one true love, beginning the War of Primes. From that day on, he was cast out by his brothers, and stripped of his power, separated from Solus in a vain quest to return her to life, waiting for the last Prime to kill him for his corruption.
Ironic, he could save others from death, but not himself.
Ah, he now seems more like Darth Vader than Megatron is tho. Though I still see Megatron as like Vader and the Fallen like the Emperor.
Is it possible to learn his power?
Is it possible to learn this power?
@@myriadmediamusings Not from an Autobot...
@@myriadmediamusings Not from an Autobot(or Prime)...
Fun fact. They got Mark Hamill to voice Megatronus for the machinima series
The Clown Of Crime?! The son of the Choosen One?! Megatronus?!
Firelord/Phoenix King Ozai, the Trickster, and about 2 dozen other villains
@@fabianrocha9924 Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
What series
@@nicholasalicea1364 power of the primes
The Fallen: has extreme power including teleportation, telekinesis, and the ability to manipulate minds
Optimus: *Y O U R F A C E H A N D I T O V E R*
That’s Optimus all right
Face it, that scene was badass. Couldn't face away. Should've seen my face.
Angelic Toast we can all agree he took your face HAHAHAHHAHAHH
vector prime: *walks back in time*
G I V E M E Y O U R F A C E
"The Basics" has risen to become the best video series about the Transformers here on TH-cam. :D
I agree. It's my number 1 go-to source for Transformers info.
@@seanmorgan2356 Same here. :D
Not even a question as far as I have found.
Totally agree!
TFfangeek agreed. No other series comes close especially not any follow-the-leaders that have popped up.
I like his live action movie design. He had that ancient yet menacing Egyptian alien vibe to him while the other versions just seem to make him look like a bigger, badder version of Megatron. Sure, that could be the case but the live action version had that unique silhouette to him that I appreciated imo.
He reminds me of General Grievous a bit.
Well, I honestly love his IDW design because he's LITERALLY just Movie Megatron with real hands and face.
I agree. I prefer the Egyptian God-like design to the Megatron 2.0 design that he usually has.
Honestly while his design in the Bayformers series still isn't great, I do have to admit it's far better than the Megatron knock off he usually looks like. But I still almost prefer the Megatron knock off because then he at least looked unique among his siblings. Poor dude just can't seem to get a good solid evergreen design.
LegoTurtle Brickfilms Might be cool to see a hybrid of the two designs. I mean Megatron’s whole deal is to try and replicate Megatronus in every way, so he has to look somewhat like Megs
Ah Megatronus, the Judas of the 13 Primes. To paraphrase Jontron, he has Fallen...and he chose NOT to get up!
Gonna throw in my guesses for Episode 100: Primus or G1 Optimus Prime.
Definitely Primus since Optimus has a lot of different incarnations to cover in just one video.
And Optimus prime is I'm gonna choose
Sir, making a Jontron Joke into an epic quote is too awesome to be legal, you are under arrest.
He's closer to Mordrid from Arthur's Knights.
@@titanstudios2683 I see you are a homo sapien of culture as well
Ah, yes, the Judas of Transformers lore
That's what they call him on TFWiki.net
And thus it is fitting that this episode comes out during Holy Week.
@@myriadmediamusings very true
@@myriadmediamusings omg yes, i just realize this channel upload it during holy week on purpose🤣
So, who is Jesus in this one?
I love the Fallen's tragic love backstory. It's so much better than "he's Evil because he is"
True, he's basically Darth Vader and that would make Solus Prime, Padme...
With that backstory, it would be curious that in some comic line they put him not like mad for power to revive his lost love, but to prevent a cataclysm that would destroy the planet cybertron and the relics that Solus once made. Like putting him in a "hero" side once in his life, like, i don't know, a Unicron corrupted Megatron or original decepticon seeks to destroy Cybertron and their prime relics (cliche, i know) to consume the universe in darkness without resistence, but Megatronus helps Optimus and the autobots to find a way to stop the chaos bringer, because in his exile he realized that Solus could not be brought back to life, and the relics she made were all to remember her, and they could not be destroyed because for him, lose those relics, is to lose for ever his love.
I like his tragic love backstory too but the original incarnation of The Fallen being a mysterious lord of chaos is very intriguing.
I mean, he kind of had a point in the movies. The humans looked like primitive insects to him.
@@ltb1345 But isn’t it a bit overkill to kill them off and betray his brothers just to absorb the sun when there literally trillions of other stars out there?
Fun fact! In the movie, The Fallen/Megatronus is voiced by Tony Todd, a.k.a. Candyman. And a few years later, he would provide the voice for Dreadwing in the second season of Transformers Prime.
If you say his name five times in a mirror, he will shoot you.
He also acted as the undertaker in final destination
And will voice Venom in Insomniac Spider-man 2
And Darkseid in the DCAU
He's been in alot of animated stuff
So.....if the Primes are “siblings”, what does that say about Fallen and Solus’s relationship....
Also thanks for the reminder of IDW’s “Shockwave did everything” nonsense -_-
Shut up no don't
"Fuck logic, she hot" that's whay i think megatronus said
in the covenant of primus, the 13 are supposed to be parts of Primus, and the book also explains that concepts like gender and family and etc. aren't part of Cybertron, so their relationship was fine
well the Greco-Roman gods did the same thing.
IDW shockwave : everyone is dumb except meeeeeee
I always loved the aligned continuity of the Fallen, however once I started reading the IDW movie tie in comics, the Fallen’s story in the Michael Bay continuity really grew on me. So much so I’ve began a new series translating the comics to a stop motion styled story.
@023 Studios I think he is amazing
I think your show is good
023 Studios We've all gotta do it at some point.
Fancy meetin' you here TFI
The fallen is the best part of transformers 2
Megatronus, as all primes, is a relic of a primitive time and should have remained in the past, forgotten by proper modern Cybertronian society.
Yet some buckethead gladiator named himself after that guy
I mean, he did almost kill all of you Transformers without a care in War Within, easily dispatching Grimlock and trashed a Major Autobot force just to get Blitzwing, and even Shockwave agreed on a truce with the Autobots to fight him. So it might be better to not forget about the guy who can destroy your society while not even breaking a sweat.
And yet cybertronians are effectively slaves to their past.
Shut up Starscream, you're afraid that he will kill you...
This comment is just bad comedy.
I like the aligned continuity version cause if gives him more of a tragic backstory
It does... until you realize that it’s essentially trying to be the original origin but without any connection to Unicron and makes Megatronus more of a victim. I personally rather like the idea that Unicron convinced him to betray and kill the other members of the Thirteen. It makes more sense and gives him more of a purpose if you bring him into modern stories then the other origins.
Perfect origin = liege Maximo mind controls/hypnotises Megatronus into killing Solus Prime. Megatronus says liege Maximo controlled him but no one believes him due to his already dark nature. He is then cast out , rage filled , he turns to unicron seeking revenge
For solus and himself. (Personal origin)
dragonstorm 92 The other odd thing is that is a massive retcon to Leige Maximo too. Yes he represents “evil” and “darkness” in the Thirteen, but he’s also been depicted as unwilling to really try to actually hurt or kill any of them. He still respects and cares about them.
@@Megamanlanprime Liege Maximo is more of a schemer, the newer version is more morally ambiguous than outright evil and tempts others to cross boundaries. While he is the aspect of war he is depicted more like a machiavellian strategist. War can be and is psychological too.
For me he just convinced Megatronus to keep the requiem blaster for himself at all costs in case it was ever needed again, feeding him with lies, paranoia and distrust for the "poor judgment" of the other Thirteen.
After all it was a sound choice from the point of a strategist to not discard an OP weapon.
@@skuarf Liege Maximo... now doesn't his visage look vaguely familiar? *cough**cough*l0k!*cough.
I like how the Armor of Unicron that Transformers Cyberton's version of Megatron wore has become part of Megatronus's look. It also implies that that Megatron was actually Megatronus instead.
I'd say the implication is that Megatron in Cybertron was merged with Unicron's spark, with Unicron fully corrupting Megatron upon his final transformation into Galvatron.
Help! I've Fallen and i can't get up!
Cue drum beat xD
Hahahaha!
You still fallen?
*The Dark Angel's would like to know your location*
@@Zero01k FALLEN?! WHERE?!
Hope there's a Studio Series figure for The Fallen coming out..
I have come from the future to let you know it exists
I first encountered Megatronus back in 2009 in ROTF. I think I like his Combiner Wars trilogy incarnation most Chris.
because he's around for more than two seconds without getting his face ripped off
Yes I agree
I like his ROTF incarnation better than his Prime Wars Trilogy incarnation, TBH.
Yeah prime wars megatronus was good
Barsenthor Battlemaster I agree! Prime Wars Trilogy Megatronus showed them how much of a threat he was far more than the Bayformers movies.
7:22
"With the Fallen's face serving as the basis for their insignia."
*Soundwave would like to know your location.*
@Screaming Soldier I think the time stamp was referring to Soundwave there, as he looks similar to the logo in TFP.
I don't really see it with the fallen I understand it being Soundwave
@@shanedaley6236 Most versions of the Fallen is meant to resemble the Decepticon logo, as he is the original Decepticon and the traitorous Prime "Megatronus."
I remember seeing 2009's Revenge of the Fallen as a kid and couldn't believe it. A character that was much more vicious and enigmatic than the gladiatorial Megatron? Hell. Yes.(Yes, the movies were my introduction to the Transformers brand)
In retrospect, I favor the Aligned Continuities' take on Megatronus. Specifically, TF exodus and exiles, and the C.O.P. as a griefing antihero who was responible for the murder of his beloved Solus. On top of that, we get to hear him voiced by the Joker's VA, Mark Hamill.
You poor thing, your introduction to the transformers franchise was the movies, poor, poor thing
Naaah the aligned version is stupid
Both times Megatronus was shown is animation, he was voiced by actors with ties to 80’s science fiction. In the Robots in Disguise series he was voiced by Gil Gerard of “Buck Rogers in the 25th Century” fame, and in the Machinima series was voiced by the great Mark Hamill.
When I noticed Maximo looks exactly like a cybertronian version of Loki, I knew he'd be the source of all this tragedy.
"Now i claim your sun." Oh wait we need another 5-10 mins. During those 5-10 mins i will stand on a pyramid doing a weird dance while Optimus figures out a way to fly up there and blow up my sun claiming machine. Then i will have my face torn off and die.
Despite the fact i can teleport, i have telekinetic ability, and i am a prime. I hate Michael Bay.
don't get me wrong, he can definitely direct and his ideas are pretty good, the visuals are amazing but in the end the execution isn't perfect. Love the first 3 movies but my god they're not as good as I remember
I actually liked some aspects of the first movie (maybe because I knew almost nothing about Transformers at the time), but Revenge of The Fallen is the worst movie I have ever payed money to see.
Humans don't deserve sun
@@melvinshine9841 i think it's 2nd best movie. The backstory and concept was a great idea but as you said the execution was bad. Then there's the whole TF history which is good and the later movies get weird with oh Bumblebee was already on earth 1940s and Jetfire's ancestors the wheel and of the pillars from part 3 and the decepticons messing with NASA and Russian space programs.
Oh, and on top of the writers strike that happened that year. That's why 2nd movie thr plot wasn't overly complex as other movies.
Basics on ravage the cute decpticon kitty.
So, _Shattered Glass_ Ravage, then?
@@boobah5643 well he would probably be mentioned. But he has his share of cute moments througout continuities.
*"DECEPTICONS FOREVER!!!"*
Basics on Vector Prime
It taste the same as a normal cat
“ i want your face “ top ten quotes that happen before disaster
Along with the T-1000 from T2. "Say... that's a nice bike." And we all know what happened to *that* guy. 😀
Yep
Here's another "a deal had to be made... with megatron"
I'm still P-i-s-sed about that
True
GIVE ME YOUR FACE.
Anyone notice how at 3:33 the Fallen prepares to step on humans with his right foot, but in the next shot he uses his left foot instead?
oh my god I genuinely never did
Omg i never saw it o.o
Damn, your right! What did he do, hop in the air and switch feet? Anyway, good catch!
"You thought I was going to step on you with my right foot, but it was my left foot!"
“This planet is not yours to rule, the Fallen shall rise again”
Not today - Murderous Prime
Punkass decepticon
Evan Skrab more like Prickumus prime
Not today
It's funny that he's now considered the first Decepticon when the Liege Maximo was the proginator of the Decepticons in Generation 2. Although the IDW comics did reinstate Maximo as the Prime of Deceit responsible for them, until you remember he was Shockwave's retroactive creation in that continuity. When you read Generation 2 you feel as if Liege Maximo is less of a name and more of a title, which leads me to think that Furman may have originally intended to call him something similar to Megatronus to make it look 'shocking'.
KikBlava I remember early years in the internet where people flat out thought Liege and the Fallen were the same person. Plus given the Fallen’s later origins as being the first Decepticon something Maximo already claimed in his first appearance, seems that they were meant to be 1 person but later made into 2 beings. That way we can have 2 evil primes who represents opposite evils Fallen the one who does evil actions, and Maximo who manipulates others into doing evil deeds.
IDW made me give them the side-eye for that. Shockwave, survives his "explosion" at the end of "Dark Cybertron" - instead ended up being thrust back into the distant past and was behind some of the events throughout Cybertronian history leading up to the rise of the "common" era Megatron and the Civil War. Yeah ok....
trence5 It’s why the meme “SHOCKWAVE DID IT!” is a thing
I wish Liege Maximo was less of an obvious Loki ripoff.
@@RingoLoadagain Yeah I didn't care for his redesign. Its almost like Maximo is now meant to be Starscream's direct ancestor or something. His more demonic G2 design was a lot cooler. At least in IDW he has the tubes in his body G2 gave him.
7:07 So the "gun just went off"? Didn't know Cybertronians tried that defense, too. Now I'm wondering how domestic violence is handled on Cybertron.
It is interesting he said accidentally shot his lover, something tells me we don't know the full story. I'm starting to think liege Maximo needed megatronus out of the way gamma the only one brutal enough to see through the lies of the wicked one. Maybe liege Maximo set this all up. Something not mentioned, was why they were fighting. According to the Articles I've read liege Maximo had given Solus a trans organic. Megatronus killed it after Solus Prime was shot. Me thinks that might be important
He didn't kill her! The cybertronian glove didn't fit.
Did you see the beginning of Revenge of the Fallen? There you go.
Encountering the fallen from dream wave must have been like meeting the devil itself, with the sound of grinding and scraping metal heralding his arrival bellowing like a furnace heralding an inferno that would consume all, a juggernaut of cosmic proportions. Remember that giant robot from the first episode of Justice League Unlimited kinda like that
Did you ever hear the last conversation before the tragic death of Megatronus, the Fallen?
If you didn't, then here it is:
The Fallen:
- It's over Optimus, I activated the harvester!
Optimus:
- You underestimate my cannon!
The Fallen:
- Don't try it!!!
*Optimus blows up the harvester*
The Fallen:
- I HATE YOU!!!
Optimus:
- You were a worthy prime, but now you're not worthy to wear their prime faceplate! Give me your face!
*Optimus kills the Fallen*
Optimus:
- I've become more powerful than any prime, even you! I've become more powerful than you could have possibly imagine!
Megatron:
- No... No... That's not true! That's impossible!!!
Optimus:
- It's over Megatron! The Fallen has the low ground!
Starscream:
- To fight this prime, strong enough you are not!
Megatron:
- This isn't over!
*Megatron and Starscream leave*
0:34 megatronus: i don't think me being constantly on fire is normal... im actually in pain. *I think Primus made me wrong* :(
I think Primus overcooked him.
@@dweemiesdarkmount that's why he's the 12th Prime...
Primus: hold on I'll fix this *repairs Megatronus and gets rid of the flames* much better *realized that he almost looks like Unicron* Scrap, welp you'll be Prima's opposite then
Sentinel: “good thing I transform into a fire truck
Lol
Him being a fallen anti-hero is defiantly a more enjoyable than just being evil. This does raise the question as to why Liege Maximo is out and out evil, but I love the trope "Dark is not evil" and that applies (originally) to Megatronus. Making note of that for my series...
I like to think that Liege Maximo is the opposite of Prima
@@fabianrocha9924 How so?
@@SuperSwordman1 Well tfwiki saya that he considers himself Prima's opposite so...
(tfwiki.net/wiki/Liege_Maximo )
@@fabianrocha9924 Okay then
THE FALLEN WILL RISE AGAIN! ALL HAIL THE DECEPTICONS!
Ok you might hate me for this cause I like the Michael bay fallen cause of his legendary voice and he looks cool
BayFormers are underrated
better late than never ok yea I can’t complain they kinda are
@@lordbrickmasterproductions3531 I'll take BayMegatron over G1 Megatron any day
better late than never ok yea no I like g1 megatron better but
@@lordbrickmasterproductions3531 most prefer G1, yet I can't get over the bucket on his head.
The Requiem Blaster first appeared in Transformers Armada, as one of three Minicon weapons hidden on Earth. It was formed by the Space Minicon Team, Astroscope, Skyblast and Payload, who were then captured by the Decepticons to create the Hydra Cannon.
He's basically an evil phoenix? Very dope! The movie version of him was terrifying. The DreamWave version was badass...actually, they all were!
Apparently Bayverse fans got their wish: he's getting a new SS toy.
The Fallen: he gets knocked down, but he gets up again.
Solus: Dies
Megatronus: Help I've fallen and I can't get up
ROTF is my introduction to The Fallen... I'm sorry. ;-;
Don't apologise! This series doesn't dismiss or demean any fan's introduction to Transformers!
It's just that in hind sight, ROTF was not a good movie. Dare I say it, 2nd worst of the Bayformer films.
@@ChrisMcFeely the live action the fallen
Given that until ROTF The Fallen was seen only in Dreamwave comics and appeared as a lore footnote, its no surprise. Heck ROTF was also where I was introduced to the character as well.
I first encountered the Fallen in Robots in Disguise.
Me too
The primes: *exist*
Shockwave: bro I’m bored, Imma ruin your lives
10:48
Such a lost opportunity to say
_"The Fallen... shall rise again."_
Geez. RID make this dude look like a joke. They totally forgot his tragedy.
But holy crap. He's pretty awesome for a Prime in others. Though for the Fallen in TF2, I keep calling him Chicken Man.
you idiot. Both version are great and never forget about it.
Oh man, the OG Fallen looks so much cooler than the live action version.
Which is why he'll be officially released by Flame Toys.
The Bay version just looks like a Bionicle to me, like a Skrall mixed with a Piraka.
You can apply that to every design made for bayformers.
Tbh, the designs are cool, but if you just hate them because they are not g1, that's ok, SIMP
@@nsgarci8047 I genuinely like Bays designs for most of the characters. Overall, prefer the more clean and less detailed g1 designs but his we're really cool
Personally, I'd like a combination of both his Dreamwave and Aligned origins, where he started out as being against Unicron like his siblings, but after some perceived slights against him by his fellow Primes, as well as his affections for Solus being entirely one-sided, he joined Unicron as his herald out of spite for his family. That'd be what I'd do with him anyway.
Can't say I cared for what IDW did with him, as the whole thing with Shockwave just came off as mean-spirited anti-religious commentary, one which they had no excuse for since magical and supernatural elements DID exist in that world. But that's just my opinion.
While yes; supernatural elements do exist that doesn't mean other things exists, remember that Primus, Unicron, and Thirteen were just religious myths of the universe.
You are not alone my friend. I highly dislike a LOT of IDW's run, but chief among them is the watering down of the Primes. I much prefer them as ancient, mythical figures. I really dislike how IDW used Shockwave as a Deus Ex Machina for most of the series, among many other things.
Gotta agree
yolanda castro what I mean is that because supernatural elements existed, it invalidated any and all of their demystification efforts.
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 There is no singular"original version" of the Primes. The only cohesive one we have is IDW. And like I said, I just personally dislike it.
Basic on the decpticon cat spy ravage.
Ah yes, Prime Wars Megatronus. The silliest hat on this side of the multiverse.
Nute Gunray would disagree.
I first encountered this character in 2009's Revenge of the Fallen but my favourite version of his backstory has to be the Aligned Continuity's tragic take.
Fun fact: The Fallen exists as "The Evil One" in the Go-Bots universe.
Leave it to gobots for bad names lol
While Vector Prime is Vec-Tor
(As for the others I dont know...)
yolanda castro Cy-Kill went looking for him, but that was the last time anybody had seen him. The reason was soon clear: The so-called Evil One had drained his life force to weaken his prison.
@@optimoosejones9493 I'm beginning to think they do that intentionally.
Imma be real the Dreamwave design is my favorite. And that action figure is
*chefs kiss*
Mwah, exquisite.
First time was the Dreamwave mini series, TF:WAR WITHIN-The Dark Ages. It was mentioned that while the Fallen's physical form was destroyed by the end of the story. His spirit was causing some big problems in the modern era. And was supposed to be the one either possessing, or motivating Sunstorm in the first arc of the ongoing Dreamwave series. And was supposed to possess Jetfire later on in storyline that never reached fruition thanks to Dreamwave's bankruptcy .
We definitely need to see more of Megatronus/The Fallen in future TF stories, since he largely appears as a major part of the Decepticon’s rise to power.
The prime wars version is the best iteration of him. Its tragic but also shoes how powerful he really is
I first encountered Megatronus in the Revenge of the Fallen, but I like the Alligned continuity origin as many characters were given some tragic qualities about them for this line of stories. I also watched the Power of the Primes cartoon and loved his design for it.
I remember being first introduced to this character when Revenge of The Fallen was about to arrive to theaters. His movie design was so bizzare and different than the transformers designs that I saw over the years, and his backstory really intrigued me. To this day, he remains my favorite Transformers villain.
I would love to see an amalgamation if The Fallen’s original and aligned stories. It’s be because he fell under Unicron’s thrall even as they defeat the Chaos Bringer that he eventually turns on his fellow Primes, which could in turn inspire the Liege Maximo to evil.
The Aligned story has a little bit of a shade of this, in that it's suggested ALL the Primes become a little tainted by Unicron's shadow of evil after their final battle with him, and that that influence is the reason for their inevitable falling out, but Alpha Trion notes that such a thing was only truly possible because of the hatreds and resentments that already existed between them in the first place.
The introduction of the 13 primes was a game changer for me as well. Its what brought me back to the Transformers after years away.
The Fallen shall rise again
I survive
Not today...
Such a wasted villain in transformers 2.Instead of giving him screen time we get to see sam going to college.
The World's Worst Clown same
That's my (and everyone else's) main problem with the films they focus way too much on the humans
I remember back in like 3rd grade being at target just enamored by the design of that titanium fallen but then someone bought and I never saw it again, then rotf comes out a few years later and I was like maybe I'll get one, but I didn't really care any more, then rid came out and I was like "yeah I'll get one" never did, then Potp came out and I got fangry only to find out later on that the little dude was megatronus, so yeah I've had some history with the guy
*_A thrilling saga_*
Attempt No. 1
Dunno if this is the best vid suggestion, but...
Maybe Breakdown or Knock out
I think they're both underserved characters after TFP, mainly Breakdown. He really got the worst of it, even after be died.
R.I.P. Breakdown
Burn in heck Silas
I liked Silas. I'd love to see more MECH under someone else's leader ship. Although with the Silas/Breakdown union, C.Y.L.U.S. , I was thinking the TF:PRIME writers would go for something more along the line of Headmasters than what they did.
@@LB74 That's a really good point
Personally, I didn't like Silas, but that idea for C.Y.L.U.S. is something I hadn't thought about. It would have worked really well, revived the headmaster concept earlier.
Basics on the the black kitty cat ravage.
Is there gonna be a transformers the basics on skylynx? or is he just not that Relevant with not a lot of information
He might fit into obscure characters month. He has more info and appearsnces than both hauler and quick switch both of which had an episode.
Shoto Todoroki ok cool! I love skylynx’ accent
I remember the Fallen when I was a kid, it’s his live action film debut in TF2, though I am intrigued of many of his other designs, especially the one where he made his first appearance in the comics!!