Do or Don't: Necrons
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Every Fantasy setting needs its undead. In 40k, those undead just happen to be millions of years old robots. And they are kickass. Let's take a look.
0:00 - Intro
0:42 - Background
1:50 - Non-tabletop Pros
7:06 - Tabletop Pros
10:16 - Non-tabletop Cons
13:38 - Tabletop Cons
15:48 - Conclusion
16:37 - I Need a Hero!
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-Security, Bridge
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-Intro - เกม
I DUN FUCKED UP ON THE RESURRECTION PROTOCOL RULES THOSE ARE FROM 8TH I DESERVE TO BE SHUNNED PUBLICLY
@Pancreasenowork did you no necron were based on terminator robots
You also said "live vivisections" which is a silly thing, because vivisections are by definition done live; otherwise, it's a dissection. You have now been shamed publicly, you may continue with your existence.....for now.
Time to make you a immortal robot and then shun you forever
Meanwhile squats: I shit on your living metal
8th is better anyway
The War in heaven could've been prevented if the psychic toad men taught the necrontyr how to make sunscreen
It is implied that the necrontyr's sickness was an ailment of the soul more so than a biological problem. And the Old One's were the absolute masters of soul related mumbo jumbo.
Wouldn't that mean 40k could have been prevented
@@benpuggy217 yes
So much in 40k could be prevented if (insert name here) weren't a dick. Or just dumb. A staggering amount of that blank space could be filled with The Emperor.
@@benpuggy217 no. That period if time would still ellapse, just by a different calendar.
Necron magic is the definition of "Any technology sufficiently advenced enough will be indistinguishable from magic"
The necrons essentially have every possible sci fi tech that humans have came up and weaponsize the living and undying metal crap of said sci fi tech.
Literally. The celestial Aurorary can delete stars like an app off an iPhone, and somehow that’s possible with just science
Soooo... Thaumaturgy?
As if I _actually_ care what that weird Cryptek *really* has to do to keep my warmachines working...💀
basically Marvel’s Asgard lol
The Infinite and The Divine novel is basically two main necron lords trolling the hell out of each other. Not quite as comedic as Ciaphas Cain, but not entirely super grimdark-serious either.
Well, they destroy a whole planet while trollin' each other.
@@DaroriDerEinzige (Releases a genestealer) Time for a little trolling.
2 old men in immortal robot bodies have a 10000 year long nerd fight over a mcguffin
@@DaroriDerEinzige Technically the Imperium did that.
@@suitorshooter996 and the Orks
And the destroyers
And the genestealer that was released by trazyn
A huge plus for me: Necrons have one of the best, arguably the best interactions with other faction.
Specifically Admech.
When these two fight, its essentialy old men screeching "GET OUT OF MY LAWN!" versus old men screeching "MY MACHINES, MY MACHINES, THESE ARE MY MACHINES"
The sheer amount of contempt these factions feel towards each other really has some tsundere vibes to it
"IT'S Not LIKE I LIKE YOU ADMECH SAN"
Therapist: tsundere necrons don't exist they can't hurt you
tsundere necrons:
Trazyn also has some funny interactions with the Blood Ravens.
BR: Give us your relics
Trazyn: Give me your bodies. And also your relics. In fact, don't bother. I already took them while we were conversing. Also you're part of my collection now.
"You are an abomination"
"I prefer 'honored guest'"
That's hardly tsundere in the slightest, if it was, they'd grudgingly work together or help each other out every now and then with a modicum of respect. Maybe it's just fully tsun-tsun, but there's no love between them, just all out contempt. They hate each other.
i absolutely love the level of detail put into lore summary "the clown told them to"
If a clown tells you to do something you must do it, it is universal law.
@@zeehero7280 dang I didn't know redditors had mind control
@@beefyblom Clones that don't need padding for there whale furrsones do not coint
Can you give the context please? I’m still learning the lore.
@@wiljf17 Cegorach, the elder meme god, told the c'tan to turn on each other
Well, to be fair, the lore explicitly states that what we know is just what the imperium scholars have been able to piece together, so when they “realize something”, that’s why the lore changes.
It’s probably canon to the world that the imperium thought that the necrons were chaos androids, when they first encountered them, because why wouldn’t they just immediately assume they were of demon origin?
i mean, you have a point, but still, it is a bit odd all things considered. especially because the necrontyr when they were of demonic origin even had the chaos brand on them
@@clairelili873 that can be explained as the scholars not realizing what the necron glyphs were and since they already assumed they were chaos related just put it down as some kind pf symbol relating to chaos
@@clairelili873 I always took little things like that to be a little error in translation/recording, like that thing wasn't there but given the Imperial misconception they assumed those would be there. It's like when you play a Space Marine standard bearer in tabletop that's been painted except for his standard, the lore reason for why it's unpainted can be explained as nobody present being able to remember what it looked like or ever noticing it, since I always took the tabletop battles to mostly be recounts of battles that happened, when applicable.
Yeah if I didn't have any info on them I would be more inclined to think they're a race of chaos automatons rather than a Xenos race
That's the in universe reason, but the problem is still there what's the point of reading books when all that info can be subject to change at any time
The Necrontyr didn't create the C'tan. They discovered them eating their star. There's a decent argument to be made that the C'tan feasting on their star is what made it so carcinogenic to the Necrontyr in the first place.
Yeah they discovered them eating stars, but didn’t they then communicate w them, which started the ctan on eating souls in the first place? It’s not fully accurate to say they created the ctan, but there is somewhat of an argument to be made for making them a relevant thing.
The C’tan already existed, yes, but from what I understood it was the Necrons that gave them their forms.
@@PanzerPlant
Weren't they basically just dumb celestial fart clouds before the necrontry gave them SUPER powerful, computer brains?
IIRC C'tan weren't sapient in their natural state, they were basically big dumb animals grazing on stars, or natural forces that feed on stars as some sort of quirk of the universe being the way it is.
It wasn't until the Necrons created physical bodies to funnel the C'Tan's weird folded spacetime bodies in to their physical manifestations that they became both self-aware and had to start feeding on living things since they couldn't feed on stars anymore (Not that they would go back to feeding on stars if given the option, part of being self aware is being able to experience the concept of "flavor").
@@MisterZimbabwe
Which is something I've always found weird about the c'tan, why couldn't they continue to feed on stars, many are M class like our sun and above and well...stars produce STUPIDITY VAST quantities of energy! I mean, I know souls are sopposed to be valuable but are a bunch of merger mortal warp sparks really that powerful, more so than the freakin nuclear cores of the universe i.e. stars? And even if they are why forsake one source of energy over another, diversity of energy sources is a perfectly viable if not preferable strategy, being able to tap multiple sources should be child's play for them.
Remember that time the necrons casually closed the eye of terror...
They won the war in heaven since they beat the Old Ones to extinction. It may have permanently ruined the galaxy and spawned them new and worse enemies like the Eldar, Tyranids, Chaod, etc. but they did end up achieving their original goal.
*[ Pyrrhic Victory ]*
it was more of a pyrrhic victory. another war in heaven would absolutely fuck them over, but at the same time, pratically only them didnt got fucked after the war, they just went to sleep so that their problems would finally go away, and in parts it worked. they just didnt count about the tyranids, imperium, and others rising to power
Tyranids don't come from the galaxy though, they're an intergalactic species.
They slept to let the Eldar die because they knew It would eventually happen, too bad mankind woke them up too soon. Also, Tyranids and Chaos don't bother the Necrons, they just don't like warp fuckery and need some biomass to discover how to regain a flesh body
Thank you... The War in Heaven was between the Necrons and the Old Ones... Now which one of those two groups is still out and about?? Pyrrhic victory or not the Necrons still won...
Bonus points for shattering the C'Tan as well... Gods are cringe... My dearest Space-Egyptian Robots are unfathomably based...
“That’s not fair! We are supposed to be-”
“Shut”
Said the Necron Lord to the Chaos Demon
These dudes must of had a field day when they realised wtf chaos was lol
💀
They were mostly like "Oh no... Anyway"
Oh other gods, cool let's kill em
well, seeing how they were the ones to partially contain the warp with their fancy tech, we can say for sure they were just "oh look, another problem that if we thrown enough science at it we will win"
@@clairelili873 "throw enough science at" is literally just a thing in 40k that has become so massive to the point where the science almost becomes magic in a sense, ironic as it is.
GW writers be like:
The Tyranids: A terrifying innumerable force of pure hunger who has the galaxy surrounded who rapidly adapts and evolves in every fight to become more efficient killing machines and can shut down chaos with their shadow in the warp.
The Necrons: Ancient immortal androids who killed the creator race and enslaved their own gods with technology so advanced it can easily shut down chaos.
The Tau: A young race that has become a technologically advanced space empire so incredibly quickly that if left unchecked will rule the galaxy and is nearly immune to chaos.
The Orks: the most numerous race in the galaxy who become stronger and more numerous the more you fight them, who's psychic power grows with their numbers and is immune to chaos.
Chaos: The biggest threat to the galaxy because ...
GW and writers: What's that? You want more stories were Chaos is the BIG BAD antagonists that can't corrupt like half the factions and has to rely on mere humans to do jack shit? Why ofcourse our loyal money pigs-we mean customers!
@@navilluscire2567 I think it's hilarious that it took the greatest champion of chaos 13 tries to get past the first planet which didn't even have any space marines on it. You can't even say that was a BS feat to jack off space marines ego, chaos just sucks. One thing I would actually like to see GW do is make a chaos xeno faction to put their money where their mouth is and prove chaos is an all consuming presence. Imagine a Tzench/xeno faction who's psycher powers and technology are one and the same like clan Skryre machines. Or a race that evolved under similar conditions to the necronteer who made a deal with nurgel to prosper. Maybe a Korn xeno race that are like the Yautja from predator. And a slanesh xeno race ... would be ... interesting ...
@@ianyoder2537 hr giger/cronenberg aliens for slaanesh
@@jakegray1723 That'll work, but it's usually nurgle who gets the body horror treatment. that's another thing that bugs me about GW and chaos. Slanesh is the god of excess, the god of drugs and sex and rock-n-roll, the god of perfection to the point of obsession. So GW decided to focus on the sexual aspect then immediately do a 180 and hide all the sexual aspects of warhammer because of weird western censorship standards. Now slanesh is the god of being cucked by the writers ... and it likes it.
@@ianyoder2537 a slanesh xeno race would basically be like the dark eldar/drukari
THERE IS NO "DONT" WITH NECRONS. YOU ALWAYS GO NECRONS
Don't play them if you want to play competitively.
ALL HAIL THE INFINITE EMPIRE
Edit 28/06/22:
You can play them competitively now.
All hail the dataslate!
@@Questioningbasics ..... you need to check some current tournament win rates bruh 💀
@@Questioningbasics don't play 40k if you wanna play competitively
This’ll be very interesting to watch. I was introduced to Warhammer through Dark Crusade, and the Necrons were the first faction I chose. They’ve always had a special place in my heart, but I recognize in lore they are somewhat OP
I hate them so much in dark crusade, the only strategy to beat them is to rush the shit out of them and if they have two bases you’re fucked
@@Max78000 that's how it is in lore too
Kill them before they fully awaken
But once they do
Bow your head in wait as you are given your final mercy
@@Max78000 If you’re talking about playing against AI that’s basically what you’re supposed to do against them all the time, regardless of faction. A lot of RTS AI cheats a bit, and Relic is no exception, but they’re prone to being screwed over by playing really aggressively
@@Theakboyy Unless you're the orks, you get to be so numerous you drown the Necron in fighting big op units.
@@AAhmou yeah but Orks INNATELY power scale to a threat
And in game are a hoard army which necrons have some trouble with
Fans: WE WANT MEN OF IRON!
GW: We have Men of Iron at home
"Men of Iron at home"
Fans: Well shit, that is actually much better
Also Fans: We still want Men of Iron tho
People still want a man of iron faction? Uh talk about patients
@@NP3GA meanwhile i want a human faction that is not the imperium or chaos
@@Raum2901 does the leagues of votann count as a human faction?
@@Raum2901 well the squ- I mean the leagues of votann are practically a human faction that are neither Imperium nor chaos
@@NP3GA The squats are loosley asociated with the imperium but that could
Dude I’ve been saving up money to start a necron army this could not have come out at a more perfect time
Having a necron army is the coolest shit ever but don't expect much on table top tho, they are currently pretty meh.
@@christianman1517 yeah that’s what everyone has told me honestly just wanna play for fun.
My tip for starting Necrons: Find a way to get ahold of the Necron half of the Indomitus box. Solid way to start without viciously murdering your wallet right out the gate.
Ebay will definitely help you save money with Necrons. Getting a full set of Warriors with Scarabs for $22 is a fucking steal. So go for it!
@@andrewdorsey8092 dont listen to the nay sayers. Every army is every teir eventually. Your army will be A teir at one point in F teir at another. Rule of cool cannot be nerfed.
"A disgusting display of Necrons being Necrons." -Rimmy
I love the dynamic between Zandrekh and his -husband- Obyron. Zandrekh will be like “let’s have dinner!” And Obyron has to just sigh and pretend to eat by shoving holographic meatloaf in his mouth…
100% true. I love my chaos bois, but compared to painting Necrons, it's no contest. Necrons are just so much easier to build/paint, and if you screw up? You can easily make it look like it was intentional, because having bits fall off the older Necrons works out aesthetically. Just make sure to paint the broken off arm or hand with a darker metallic, and blamo. It just works.
Wonder if the Votann's seemingly egalitarian relationship w the ironkin are gonna change any Necron minds like "maybe only kill bad meatbag"
Necron aren't actual AI
@@nicoruppert4207Sentient Necrons are soulless engrams of Necrontyr personalities. That sounds a lot like AI to me.
Necrons will probably find them disgusting (and/or useful) aliens that have a thing for machines. Votan reactions to necrons would be interesting, particularly any ironkin
Necrons didn't lose the war in heaven
They got their revenge on the old ones by killing all of them, the. Got their revenge of the C'tan by enslaving then.
Having no big beef with the rest of races, they went to sleep because killing two entire god pantheons is kinda tiring.
And the eldar can't even kill a single god that they made.
Jeez, necrons killed like 20 of those.
For shame.
Im fairly certain the necrons have a bit of beef with the Eldar because they were one of the major threats created by the old ones to fight the necron. Though if I recall the Eldar hate the Necrons way more than the Necrons hate the eldar, but that may be because of the whole no souls gig
yeah it can be summed up as the necrons declaring war on the old ones driving them extinct and not sticking around to kick their dogs to death, doesn't exactly sound like they lost.
Yeah Pancrease got it wrong here. But he is an eldar player. So his view of history is obscured by big eldar bitties. Not that i can blame him.
And a Necron Phaeron soloed an Aeldari God during the War in Heaven. Truly the chads of 40K
I can see the argument that the Necrons didn’t win the War in Heaven, but arguing they lost doesn’t really have any legs to stand on. I’d probably argue that the Necrons and Eldar/Krork weren’t in a position to win so they essentially just ceasefired, like how North and South Korea never officially ended the Korean War.
What's better to you guys
The old lore: "Beep boop. Delete life revive C'tan
Or
The new lore: Dynasties screaming at each other while trying to kill any and all source of chaos
While I definitely see the appeal of the Oldcrons I love the Newcrons too much. The Infinite and the Divine is my favorite 40K book and the Twice Dead King books are following pretty closely behind, Trazyn is probably my favorite 40K character and I collect Necrons because I love how much character you can give your dynasty.
You can play oldcrons.
That's why the severed exist. Exchange C'tan for glichy AI
The old lore of course.
The current one suck, the only good addition is Trazyn.
@@MrSafior I don't know much about the old lore but Trazyn is up their with Cain as one of my favourite characters. Orikan is cool too.
Calling the old lore lore is kind of a stretch to begin with.
Its literally just terminators in space.
The new lore is superior in every possible way for me.
The old lore wouldnt allow for creation of such amazing books as Infinite and Divine and twice dead king.
The Necron:
When a faction is so OP that by all means it should be steamrolling the Galaxy within a few years but thanks to plot armour they just spend a couple thousand years twiddling their thumbs and being really menacing.
The Tyranids:
When a faction is so OP that by all means the other half of the Galaxy not under Necron control yet should be stripped bare and lifeless but thanks to plot armour we just pretend like every victory against them is costly by throwing made-up stuff at them and saying it's really valuable.
The Empire:
When your faction manages to be at a complete ideological and technological standstill for millennia despite having millions of disparate worlds with disparate governments and a horrible bureaucracy while we on Earth don't even manage a hundred years without a major technological and/or ideological upheaval.
Games Workshop:
When you have a company that just throws numbers around like candy because everyone knows that bigger is better which is also why they regularly slip on the calculator and add one or two too many zeroes to their minis.
This irrelevant scale and lack of consistency is probably what keeps me from being interested in 40k the most
God I love 40K
Love to see the boys get attention
I really still think necrons need pariahs back. They have technology to repel chaos on a massive scale, and while maybe not canon at the end of battlefleet gothic 2 they literally activate a giant world engine that seals the great rift with a snap of their fingers.
So having no ability to deny psychic is absurd
Were they in Caves of Ice (the second Cain book)? I need to reread it but I kinda sounded like them.
The canoptek spyder would like to have a word with you
@@somethinglikethat2176 yes and they scared him more than anything he's ever fought.
@@ashmarten2884 what does the canoptek spider do? I checked its data sheet, I don't see anything about denying psychic abilities or warp shenanigans
@@OldSpaghettifactory89 It has the gloom prism wargear option, which gives it 1 deny.
The Infinite and the Divine was what got me into necros. You just gotta love the rivalry between trazyn and ocryn, it went on like a saturday morning cartoon for like 10,000 years.
Can you do a video on just the insane stuff Trazyn has and had in the library. Mans got a hive fleet, custodes, and a primarch clone. He can definitely one shot most demon primarchs and war masters
They should write a book cataloguing his favourite pieces and give the backstories on how and when he claimed them. A collection of short stories bound together in one book. However, he ain't one shotting any daemon primarch... not even Lorgar. He captured a juvenile clonegrim by invitation. The chaos gods would not let let that fly with their primarchs and magnus especially wouldn't even need help sending trazyn back to the respawn menu
@@banneduser5187 clonegrim is the one clone that works. I hope GW uses him and brings Fulgrim back as a loyalist
Hands down my absolute favorite faction. I simply adore the new lore they are a breath of fresh air like Bobby G man is for the impeirum
When I was building my necron army I had friends tell me to get skorpekh destroyers for a super melee army but then I thought, nah canoptek spyder and scarab swarm with a command barge and monolith w/ a lotta warriors. My bois arrive in style with a sea of scarabs to troll my opponent.
I'm a Fan of Stealth and Range
We Necrons are the Reapers of the Battlefield
You Reap What You Sow in Life&Death
-Saturn Chronicler Lord
The Necron Books have been described as "In the Grim Darkness of the Forty First Millennium, Memri TV is a playable faction." by a friend of mine.
I must say, I am tempted...
“Do not talk about the silent king.”
“Eat shit, I will talk about the silent king.”
@@pancreasnowork9939 "Is atomization the only solution for the living?" "So it seems. So it seems."
@@pancreasnowork9939 @Pancreasenowork have a question can you recommend Protoss can survive a Warhammer 40k because there technology is more superior to Eldar technology the Protoss has super carriers that can glass planets, motherships that can create black holes and glass planets, the Protoss can never die when they get wounded they teleport back to base and turn into immortal or dragoon shells that can shoot anti matter bolts that can disintegrate targets in a molecular level, the Protoss have psionic blades that can cut through anything in a molecular level, the Protoss can evolve there psionics and can create archons that can absorb psychic abilities the archons are a giant ball of energy of death, the Protoss can create psionic storms and they have an army of robot AI like colussi and sentries also Protoss zealots have equal strength to the space marines Protoss zealots can move of to hypersonic speed also they can negate energy that can create a dash attack also Protoss has slip space technology more powerful than the covenant, Protoss personal energy shields can block nukes and hypersonic bullets and can block psychic attacks also they have phase technology similar to necrons.
Behave yourself or by Szarekh you will have a taste of my gauss rifle!
i just finished half of the infinite and the divine, yes they are indeed "Memri TV, the Faction"
"The necrons just flip the chaos begone switch and they can do nothing about it"
*Laughs in ferric blight
Necrodermis would like to have a chat
Plain old, normal, oxidization would like to introduce itself
@@TheHighborn oh please that barely a problem for most mundane alloys and metals that aren’t steel or iron. Let alone whatever brand of Sci-fiction necrodermis is
4:12 Just my head cannon, but I don’t see the Archaeopter as a military vehicle. I see it as a transport that later got modified into a fighter and bomber. The Adeptus Mechanicus have better fighters and bombers out there we haven’t seen yet. But only the Archaeopter can be modified to fill those other two roles.
It may well be that the Mechanicus' actual fighter jets and bombers are either too ancient and valuable to field in any regular battle or that the points cost would be too great for the scale that 40k tabletop battles take place at. Ex. Eldar Phantom Titan is 3000pts, Tau Manta is 2000pts, and maybe the Mechanicus' proper warplanes are also giant both in size and points cost like how some of the Imperial Navy's space planes are the size of jumbo jets.
@@easonyeung2779 I hope when they do reveal the AdMech’s main fighter it looks like the Ornithopter from Dune 2021.
The Imperium of Humankind and Your God King will Fall from the Light only to See the Void and Darkness of the Necrons Arise and Spread throughout the Galaxy
-Saturn 💀
Finally the necrons get what they deserve. I’m just waiting for tenth edition to make the average warrior go 60 inches for their movement, resurrect on 1+ and have 8 str and 12 wounds.
Also nice use of assholtep as cell.
>still loses to space marines
@@pancreasnowork9939 hey, the last match I had, my skorpeks turned the marine player into a gibbering mess. Did I kill everyone? No. Did I revive so hard he actually hit my head with his fist? Yes. But we’re siblings so I got better.
@@pancreasnowork9939 @Pancreasenowork have a question can you recommend Protoss can survive a Warhammer 40k because there technology is more superior to Eldar technology the Protoss has super carriers that can glass planets, motherships that can create black holes and glass planets, the Protoss can never die when they get wounded they teleport back to base and turn into immortal or dragoon shells that can shoot anti matter bolts that can disintegrate targets in a molecular level, the Protoss have psionic blades that can cut through anything in a molecular level, the Protoss can evolve there psionics and can create archons that can absorb psychic abilities the archons are a giant ball of energy of death, the Protoss can create psionic storms and they have an army of robot AI like colussi and sentries also Protoss zealots have equal strength to the space marines Protoss zealots can move of to hypersonic speed also they can negate energy that can create a dash attack also Protoss has slip space technology more powerful than the covenant, Protoss personal energy shields can block nukes and hypersonic bullets and can block psychic attacks also they have phase technology similar to necrons.
Trazyn is already sly cooper lol, he steals from pretty much everybody including other Necron dynasties. Im pretty sure the other dynasties hate him for how often he tries to steal their shit. Pretty sure he tried stealing Imotekh's staff at one point which resulted in him basically being barred entry to Mandragora
True. He wants great specimens of Necron tech to be part of his Gallery. But he doesn't freeze and display other Necrons. He wants gust and visitors to his museum.
I like how Trazyn basically has a "get this for easy mode" for most species in 40k in his museum. A Fulgrim clone, a Krork, a top tier Eldar, ect. Hell he's probably got a man of Iron and an STC.
@@somethinglikethat2176 he would defenetively want the emperor as his centerpiece
But who's his *Carmelita Fox* to his *Sly Cooper?*
Sly just wanted stuff. What is it called when you go beyond material greed and start collecting SOULs?
Ash Ketchum.
I wouldn’t want to hear WE WILL ROCK YOU, as that implies a giant fuck off army is about to appear at their back all stomping their feet/ spears in Unison. I’d shit myself and even if it’s not the case it’s still a badass song.
You zoggin humie grot, da song you should be worried about hearing is "Ere we go, ere we go, ere we go"
Hell's Bells 😈
16:41 I gotta say the home depot epic remix. If that starts playing, I know I’m gonna get absolutely clapped.
When I first got into 40k I instantly loved the look of the necrons but then I tried to assemble so minis and let's just say I now hate me
Necrons are undoubtedly the most powerful faction in 40k. Keep up the good work, love your others videos to especially covenant in 40k. Pls do the tau next.
I remember my early times in 40K over 10 years ago and the person who got me started (I had been working with a starter kit that had the orcs and space marines) and he decided to introduce Necrons to me as I was one of the most invested out of my entire troop (Boy Scouts) and I remember the the ever evolving mindset I had. Starting with shock in how cool they are concept wise dubbed as “space terminators” then he started whipping out bonkers units with high variety and just opting to just wing it I managed to wipeout a full squad short of 2 then I learn “oh hey that was a good job, ready for round 2?” And I remember the panic as all but 3 were brought back. I was steamrolled and I was up the wall excited by just how crazy fun they looked and how much my knowledge expanded in just one evening. Once he won he told me some better ways to combat the necrons and then started showing me more races and armies where I wasn’t just dealing with a small yet digestible pallet to the full on buffet.
If I’m honest I could imagine where some may think this is silly to be running off bare minimum knowledge until this point but I won’t really explain why that was but I will say I believe my development in how much I loved what 40K is to this day came from the cultivation of what I understood and then the expansion really helped is sink in just how massive and deep the universe of 40K is.
i personally feel like necron souls are already in some perfect afterlife, just sucked out of their bodies by the unpronounceable things that made them.
Not sure. Didn't the C'Tan eat their souls?
@@somethinglikethat2176 Yes, yes they did.
@@somethinglikethat2176 not sure, if so than DAMN IT
Still a better afterlife than half the other guys in the galaxy can expect.
Their cons are that they’re balanced compared to other armies lol
11:30 So glad to hear someone else voice this particular quirk about these stories, if you think about it, we are kinda like the gods of all fictional stories, settings, and characters and I think it's wholesome and normal for us to want a happy ending for our creations like we would hope a creator of our own does for us.
They are pretty weak to pysker heavy lists. Because I think they get no denies and pysker powers don't count for their reanimation protocols plus a lot of their frontline is made up of units that got very few wounds. Don't get me wrong, their still tough but it is a very exploitable weakness
I think our only anti-psyker is in Szeras (not confirmed) and the Canoptek Spyder. I haven't had the pleasure to go against a Psyker heavy list yet but I plan to field both if I do
*sighs in no pariahs*
Spyders with gloom prism have deny the witch and some of the forgeworld models too. Also szarekan dynasty has deny strategems. But yeah i played thousand sons with my crons a little while ago and got my shit pushed in.
Naw Not With my Necrons
The House of Saturn
Which, Lives in a Void Dimension
Home to a Planet known as
Necropolis
We are the Shadows, Ghosts, and Reapers of Life&Death
We Mastered the Void and Darkness
Now the Time of the Imperium of Humankind and God Emperor Light will Fall into the Darkness of the Void
You Reap What You Sow in Life&Death
-Lord Saturn 💀
Oddly accurate and quite Delightfull to listen to. Somewhat simplified, but you managed to get the core Narative of this most esteemed of Races well enough. I will be looking forward for your next Videos.
IIRC the "Necrons don't have souls" thing seems to be more ambiguous than you'd think. It's seldom explicitly mentioned, and there are some references to Necrons having a trace of a soul or something like it.
In the necron campaign in battlefleet gothic they just casually close the eye of terror by flipping a switch
Man vs Machine: Warhammer Edition
Your army consists of 9 models
-An Ogryn (Heavy)
-A Vindicare Assassin (Sniper)
-A Culexus Assassin (Spy)
-A single turret from the Cadian Heavy Weapons squad (Engineer)
-A a Special Weapons Trooper from the Cadian Command Squad armed with a flamer (Pyro)
-A a Special Weapons Trooper from the Cadian Command Squad armed with a plasma gun (Soldier)
-A a Special Weapons Trooper from the Cadian Command Squad armed with a grenade launcher (Demoman)
-A Medic from the Cadian Command Squad
Start with 18 command points. You may set your army up anywhere on the field as long as it is more than 9 inches away from your enemy's deployment zone. Before and after each round you may spend command points to increase the stats of your models, with each additional upgrade costing an extra point. Fight against increasingly difficult waves of Necrons, each wave increases the number of Necrons, and every five waves allows the introduction of more powerful models.
This is stupid but I want to see it done
I want to see someone do an astartes level animation of Necron vs Krorks so damn bad
12-15 foot intelligent gigachad high tech orks vs evil Skelli Egyptian terminators who have literally harnessed the powers of God's
Prime eldar in there would be cool too lol
The (Second?) War in Heaven would have been off the charts. I hope we get a bit more lore about it in the next Infinite and Divine book. The Emperor is about Krork tier (based on Primarchs being about equal to demi-krorks) and Krorks were grunts in that war.
@@somethinglikethat2176 Trazyn has a krork or two in his collection. Crazy how he could just let out two emperor level beings and just wreck the galaxy
15 foot? Krorks are 12 meters tall, they’re as almost big as Warhound Titans. It’s insane that the Necrons fought these big mfs, and won.
@@yokgor4675 oh shit I didn't know they were that damn big
Okay so, im not an expert in 40k lore but id say the necrons didnt loose the war in heaven, their war was against the old ones, not the eldar and orks, and they won, they killed them, and then they turned around and enslaved their own gods, the reason they went to sleep was because they were to weak to keep fighting after killing 2 different kinds of deities and because the silent king wanted to be as far away as possible when he released his control over his race in case they decided guillotines were also made of metal, yeah the eldar stayed awake after the war in heaven but thats because the necrons were too tired of winning.
Also lore plus to the Necrons, they're made out of entirely of metal. Tyranids aren't going to look at an necron and think, "Yummy!" Sure they fight here and there but it's mostly a net loss to the Tyranids anyway.
i like to imagine tyranids can eat necrons, it's just really awkward and ultimately a waste of time, like trying to eat 10 kilos of salt
I literally no nothing about war hammer and have never played but yet I enjoy every one of your videos
Love the System Shock muisc choice btw. That hit my with a Jimmy Neutron nostalgia Brain Blast.
Also I don't want my significant other's battle theme to be Rip and Tear.
Thank you for being one of the only people on YT that brings up my favorite pirate boys.
Played me like a God Damn Fiddle at the end.
I mean, defeat isnt inherently part of the necrons considering they won the war in heaven. I suppose it can be chalked up to personal opinion but all the Old ones are dead and the necrons are immortal and the gods that temporarily enslaved them got shattered, is that not victory? Sure they had to go lick their wounds and hide from the ascendant eldar for a short time but at absolute worst their victory is pyrrhic and not absolute.
I'm actually not big on the necron warriors re-design, they looked all the same before but that worked, they looked uniform and intimidating, now they looked broken and falling apart
I really love the do or don't videos. ily my fav TH-camr ♡
Didn’t the necron just make bodies for the c’tan not make them themselves though I do like the idea that they made their own gods to stuff them in a Pokéball
The ctan were old sentient creatures made of pure energy from the big bang that ate stars . The necrons just built bodies for them so they could comprehend solid matter and experience things the way we do , before the bodies they were living but a diffefrent kind of life . They just kind of floated around space feeding on the energy of stars
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Which makes me wonder if they already had the technology to create RIDICULOUSLY OVERPOWERED bodies for their c'tan gods...why didn't they just use their already SUPER advanced science sorcery to y'know fix their shitty, short, brutal, irradiated lives?
I freakin love your videos! So glad I found this channel! Your video game references are pure gold. You have a distinctive cadence and tone to your delivery, which compliments the sarcasm very well! Honestly, very well written and performed. So many laughs! Great work!
My friend tries to tell me "they aren't written well as a concept" but I can't hear him over my funny skeleton nobles
Personally, I find the defeat inherently in their history is a good thing. Gives them a greater incentive to come back and kick more ass.
It's always a good day when Pancreas uploads!
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-Szarekh. The silent king
That Mann vs Machine intro is very accurate
It's nice to hear someone talk about the existential horror that comes from a truly soulless character, afterlife-wise. It certainly bothers me that characters in a fictional universe definitely don't know peace. It makes the theology of the setting itself seem unfair in a depressing way.
It's the same reason why I don't care for the part in Age of Sigmar about Nighthaunt being explicitly enslaved spirits, tortured and forced to war on behest of Skeleton Pope Nagash. The idea that you could have been the nicest person in life, and not only will that not prevent your eternal suffering, but it'll actually make you MORE likely to get Nagash's attention. (He hates the idea of people prolonging the lives of others, so doctors or healers are twisted into knife-handed killers, forced to Do Harm for the rest of forever).
You can't even say the horribleness of the Nagash regime makes you want to see him overthrown and more reasonable god of death to take his place. Because that's literally never going to happen, and we all know it. Even when Teclis gave Nagash the beating of multiple lifetimes and burned his magic books for good measure, to the point where Nagash got bumped off top billing on the main Death faction, he's still around in-universe. Depowered, sure, but still ruling. Meaning the Nighthaunt will continue to be made of souls pressganged into his service, and no amount of victories on the tabletop will change that.
If it were up to me, the Nighthaunt should have been ghosts that were _already_ twisted and pissed off. A natural reaction to the horrors of the AoS universe and its constant war/turmoil. They are naturally occurring angry ghosts, pissed off about unfinished business, unreconciled vendettas, or simply resentment that others live while they had to die. And Nagash just recruited them, granting their undying hate direction. It would not only make it seem like the setting's afterlife wasn't totally unfair, but give a player's army more personal agency. They're not fighting in some skeletal asshole's narcissistic war, whether they want it or not. They're prosecuting a deeply personal vendetta.
(As an aside, 40K could use a faction that's just Nighthaunt In Space. Warp ghosts that arise from the eternal meatgrinder of galactic conflict and the unbridled atrocities committed by other factions. Imagine hive worlds being overtaken by the phantoms of the lower classes worked to death in factories. Imagine Guard regiments left to die, continuing to haunt a planet long after it was cleared. Imagine the Tyranids fleeing from a steadily growing storm of souls, foes that cannot be devoured because they already were. Imagine the Drukhari work so hard to keep the Warp out of Commargh, not just because of Slaanesh, but because of the souls of their victims waiting to return the agonies inflicted on them. The opening of a big warp rift in the middle of the galaxy would be a good opportunity to cause the Unavenged Dead to rise. Not beholden to Chaos, but to their own lust for revenge.)
maybe keep them for 40k end times if it ever happens, because that part about the tyranids not being able to do anything and the drukari having to deal with some consequences sounds more like a good thing for the galaxy
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Well think of it like this, sure the pissed of ghosts main targets would be those that tormented and killed them BUT...that doesn't mean everyone else is safe from their undying wrath. They (the ghosts) will kill just about anyone that dares to or was unfortunate enough to be in their path of destruction, like a tide of blind rage and slaughter that strangely enough the ones who aren't these angry spirits targets can't help but feel empathy and remorse for them, some living people would even burst into tears of deep sorrow or filled with an inexplicable fiery rage. (influenced by a *"empathic aura"* of some kind from the ghosts that makes many of the living feel the deads' pain and anguish)
That is odd, for either setting they BOTH deal with heavily in piritual beings i.e. de(a)mons and monsters of aether (other warp entities or spirits) where are the hordes of vengeful ghosts from dead mortals? Why aren't restless undead that aren't the work of bog standard dark necromancy that have motivations other than eat people but whom seek to torment their still living hated enemies not a more common or semi-common phenomenon?
@@navilluscire2567 This is sort of why I think Space Ghosts would make for a good 40K army. They're extremely sympathetic in motivation. But they're not exactly _Good._ They'd fit right in with all the other factions in 40K.
hey you finally covered the objectively best faction
Nice one! Amazing way to story tell! Subscribed!
I love that you used system shock music the the rons.
NECRONS! MY FAVORITE!
My army is black, white, and purple and looks awesome. They were easy to paint.
I think they could still use a buff or two, maybe change reanimating to a 4+, change weapon damages from d6 to D3+3, and more antipsych, I mean they were able to genocide the old ones and you’re telling me the only thing on the table that can deny the witch right now is my one spider?
Reanimation on 4+ would be broken af, especially with the canoptek reanimation unit.
But D3+3 instead of D6 shoudlve been changed months ago, the rng on some of our big guns is way too silly
Love the video, keep up the great work!
As for the bit at the end (I love questions like this), I decided that the Johnny Cash cover of 'Rusty Cage' would suck to hear against me. Not just for the fact that it's a favourite song of mine, but the pace of the song basically guarantees that, even if I get the upper hand in the fight, my foe WILL get a second wind and stomp my ass flat.
I remember in the 3rd Ed NECRON book they had all different paint jobs like polymer and ceramic.
Stabil. I love the necrons for their potential.
LONG LIVE THE INFINITE EMPIRE
Dance of The Cryptek is DIVINE
Spooky Scary Skeletons
That ending was completely uncalled for and you know it! Lol Great video! :)
To be fair the souls of your guys are in the belly shards of your c'tan shards, so you're literally using their sould to beat them double
What if they made necrons into a mostly one-hit-kill Army, however the enemy models movement speed adds to the miss chance.
Happy 40K Subs my dude.
1:19 love you for that Kerillian cameo !
System Shock 1 music, extremely based.
do or don't: arson on a world wide scale
so true sen
Let’s go! It’s always a good day when you upload
I'm absolutely new to warhammer and excited to start, these guys are gonna be my first. When I learn how to start
When is there gonna be a do or don't sisters of battle? Its my favourite faction but I'm still unsure if its the army for me also damn these videos are good and thanks for all the entertainment they have granted me.
The lord of insulin has returned
It's nice that Pancreas also thinks of the souls of the people
for me, it's like who they are and for the Necrons to lose theirs is just sad but equally to that sadness is them being fricking amazing
Side Note: nice touch with the System Shock OST for the background.
I hope you do the Mechanicus soon. Think it'll be very funny.
I thought the necrons "lost" the war in the heavens because the silent king, after defeating the oldones and ctan, decided to order everyone to go to sleep and went off to cry for a couple hundred milenia or two
Orks do have a certain charm with their tech. I think my last car had a little bit of WAAAGH power in it, swear it ran for at least a year longer than it had any right to.
My favorite thing to do with my crons is run Mephrit Dynasty, take the Silent King and a Chronomancer, give a block of 20 warriors with Gauss Reapers My Will Be Done and Chronometron, so now they're hitting on twos, rerolling ones, firing 40 shots with AP -3, and they have a 5+ INVL.
I will say this about your “every one perma-kill is one more they can’t get back” is arguably a moot point. Assuming we ship of Theseus this, the only necrons that are true necrons are the nobility who have some semblance of individuality, the rest are robots that once had individuality. If they make robots with necrodermis and advanced ai - advanced enough to follow commands in Zerg drone format - their numbers are replenished, and there really isn’t any loss unless someone like Trazyn is perma-ganked.
Going further with our ship of Theseus, if we assume that at best the necrons can only rewrite the biomass soul individual they eventually settle on/find it’s really only gonna work with the nobility. There’s not much in a drone aside from “follow order” so you’re basically gonna be left with a brain dead individual at worst or a childlike intelligence at best. Any hope of bringing back the original species - at least mentally - is solely with the nobility who maintain some semblance of what it was to be (I forget the pre necron term) proto necrons.
So I’m conclusion only the nobility lost are truly a hit to the necrons. A drone is replaceable with their level of tech and likely to go unnoticed save for a warranty date being different.
Damn, my first 40k game was against necron, they just straight up refused to die and my guardsmen got clapped XD
Had a lot of fun tho
YES FINALY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR FOREVER
subbed. This was fantastically entertaining.
Maybe the necrons would had fix your pancreas if you would had made this earlier
weird that necrons aren't anti armor anymore, they should still be anti-armor and anti large
The issue is though you can't have a horde army be anti-large. because yknow, you're naturally kind of anti-horde by being a horde army yourself (and thus having a lot of shots)
The recent necron lore has stated that there numbers are equal to that of humanity. Which means there are quadrillions of them.
Yes the perfect video to watch before going to bed 😍