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@PancreasNoWork I really enjoyed your video and also I'm new to Warhammer 40k also I'm a StarCraft protoss fan I was just wondering do Warhammer fans hate StarCraft fans because I was wondering are the eldar any good faction and also are you interested in recommending the protoss someday in your videos you seem like a cool guy I hope you respond my man peace.
@Pancreasnowork I really liked your video and I have a question do you and the warhammer fans hate the starcraft fans and the protoss because I like both warhammer 40k and starcraft and I'm new to warhammer 40k I was wondering are the Eldar a good faction I hope you respond peace
To be fair, if I was a hyper-advanced future civilization with godlike technology, I'd make at least a few guns with legs on them. Hell, we kind of have some of that already in the Real World. The cops want them, and *must not be allowed to have them.*
I always like to think it was originally a mining platform Big Powerful Able to do a shit ton of work And for the 41st millennium Has a lot of extra power for shields And the weight limit for massive cannons and stupid amounts of ammo
I think my favorite bit about the Mechanicus is when Cawl told Trazyn the infinite they had nothing in common and Trazyn dropped one of the rawest lines in 40k "Perhaps. I went to the fires of biotransference in chains. You, I think, have gladly sliced away your humanity piece by piece".
As all of the magnificent bastards in the background of 40K have learned. Someone who dedicates the single largest cache of power in the galaxy to sheer eccentricity is not to be messed with.
In one particular book, there is a Magos Biologis that is super friendly and chill. He runs what is essentially a fully automated super-hospital in a city. He's jolly, talkative, and takes nearly everything in stride. Nearly everything. Someone tried to pass off genetically modified blood as normal blood, and when he found out, he trapped them in the facility and turned it into a 100 story death trap while maniacally declaring his intent to show them what true suffering is over the PA system. Him and his victims never show up again in the book. Don't try to use Tech-Heresy to pass blood tests. The Magos will go full Hellraiser on you.
One of my favorite mechanicus story is when the Sisters of Battle found an old blueprint for a tank turret. The mechanicus demanded it be handed over to them. The sisters agreed on the condition that they only build that turret for their tanks. Thus the Immolator Battle tank was born.
@@GipsyDangerfan I think the mechanicus always get to build weapons in such contracts. The deal is always that if the mechanicus build for the imperial military then only that specific faction get to receive the product. Otherwise only the mechanicus get to use them.
On the note of "More human looking augmentations", in the book Titanicus, the Mechanicus and Titan Legions do have members that are engineered to be ambassadors to planetary governors and such that are made to look as human as possible. The idea being they will be much better received and listened to if they don't look like an edgy middle school student's idea of steampunk body horror
If I remember correctly the forge World around Titan that supports the gray nights does the same thing with their megas being more artistic informed than garbage Mac. The only one I can remember is specifically in the novel where the Green knights do battle with the space wolves over the guardsman of Armageddon and the great nights end up losing.
Techpriests of the Genitor order, which studies genetics and the organic machines of the human form, often look quite human and have subtle augmetics as well.
Also, in one of the Cain novels there is a female tech-adept (not a priest yet), whom Cain sleeps with, so its safe assume she has all the necessary human parts. What is neat that in one of the later books of the series they meet again decades later, when is is a full-on Magus is heavily augmented, so you get to see the transformation.
Absolutely the best character in that game. The others might be more interesting or whatnot in context, but me, the mortal meatbag, completed her missions to completion first.
And even the magos you play as is far more concerned about their well being. He has a line to the effect of “My emotional cores return frustration and sadness when skitari are referred to as expendable. All those who serve the omnissiah are essential to its plans.”
Fyi: in the Ciaphas Cain novels there is a prevalent tech priest that is exactly like the ones you wished for. She isn't really fanatic or devoted to anything and this holds her back from rising in the ranks for a while. Instead, she enjoys being human. She likes baths, good food and it's implied that she has a sexual relationship with Ciaphas. But she still has minor augmentations. Her main motivations are having a good time and curiosity as to how things work. And when we meet her again a couple decades later, she has risen in the ranks and gotten a lot more augmentations but is still the same humerous person. So if you want a different flavour of tech priest, read Ciaphas Cain. edit: Spelling
@5n4k3d0rk You are thinking of Amberle Veil, the inquisitor who gives the introduction, makes comments and occasionally appears in the books. But I am talking about Felicia (I hope that was her name) who is an important side character in the 4th and 6th book.
There's also that Magos who cloned himself but when the clone turned out wrong he kept her and raised her as his own daughter. I think his name was Vitali. He was different from the Mechanicus stereotype.
@@AdeptKing the techpriest of Mars books right? He even said that on one hand he glad he still has some humanity left so he can feel sad about losing her while also wished he was more machine so he doesn't have to feel the lost of his daughter.
She's an Enginseer not a "Tech Priest" by which you really mean Magos... she was also fairly new & very low ranked even for an Enginseer at the point that Cain nailed her. When she is introduced again later after many years and lots of promotions then she has undergone the extensive augmentations that would be expected.
Adeptus Mechanicus: Do or Don't Do: Worship the Machine God and venerate the Omnisaiah Don't: Stick your Cyberdong in a toaster when you should be tending to it's Machine Spirit. Unless it likes this, then destroy it because it's corrupted by Slaanesh.
@@javabeans9853 Amputation with no anesthetics. You asked for it when you stuck it in there. And before you ask. No, you will not be given any replacements.
Pancreas: "how big is the imperial senate that you can fit a titan in their meeting room?" Ok, but hear me out: how big are the imperial senate DOORS that you can march a titan into the meeting room???
@@GhostBear3067 We have determined your entry way is is not up to proper mechanicum standards We have corrected the error as a gesture of net positive cooperative function.
The Imperial Palace is so incredibly massive that it has its own indoor weather patterns, and the door leading to the palace is manned by two Warhound Titans at all times.
While I know the Imperial Senate Doors are definitely big to a degree that they are clearly compensating for something. I also know that for a Titan every door is big enough even it is wasn't before the Titan arrived
@@Brutalyte616 the machinery of golden throne literally takes a continent. The palace being a large metropolitan area with huge hallways breaking the labyrinth of offices, records and living quartets seems fitting Also, iirc, the throne room is guarded by titans as well with a whole legion being based on defending the palace
Its just an exponentially slowed modulated signal of the mechanicus rule book in ascii, using v.92 protocols. It was originally going to be in unicode, but this would had ballooned play time to 16.4 hours.
Always one of my favorite lore battles. You have on the one hand technofetishist who are desperatly attempting to ascend to machinehood while being terrified of invention and against them you have people who had machinehood forced upon them and who play with physics the way a child does with building blocks.
@@reaperking2121 To be fair, the Mechanicus doesn't want to become completely machine and are in fact extremely fanatically against that. They also aren't afraid of invention and have no problem with it. The problem they have is with idiots who don't know what they're doing trying to invent stuff due to the risk of data daemons, scrap code, and that the stuff the Imperium has is so insanely advanced that it has a spiritual presence and so putting it together wrong can open _Warp rifts._ That is why the Mechanicus is extremely careful when inventing. So much knowledge about how stuff works has been lost, yet it's all so advanced even when it looks primitive and simple, that meddling with it the wrong way can have apocalyptic consequences.
Funny enough, the whole 'xenotech should be destroyed' vs 'xenotech should be studied' thing showed up in the Gladius game as well. Led to a suitably grimdark faction ending.
Honestly a bioenengineer adeptus mechanicus would be interesting whist everyone else adds cogs and gears to their body this one enhances his muscles and bones, he can see twice as far and react like a superhuman and he is basically in charge of the whole:" How to make Space Marines and how do we improve them" tech side
In the game Adeptus Mechanicus NECRONS are dubbed in ENGLISH and the tech priests make those deep, gurgling, wheezing, burpling and woozing noises. They are more alien than actual aliens. Less human than magic egyptian space sceletons.
6:02 In the short story (Binary Succession) they don’t march it into the actual meeting room. They just step it over the Imperial Palace outer walls and defenses and everyone inside can hear it stomping and war horn as it approaches with the princeps blocking all the exits.
@@btrando1 As I recall it was an Imperator Titan. The narrative also notes that there were no other titans within several dozen kilometers, likely to specifically avoid just such a thing. When you’re an infantry force (almost all the Custodes materiel was in the Webway at this point, mind) against the closest thing human engineering ever made to a mechanical god of war it’s not really a question of ‘letting’ it do anything. They certainly tried swinging around some wall guns, but best case scenario they’d have scratched the paint or tripped the voids and pissed it off even if they had hit it and not missed, sending artillery into civilian districts accidentally.
@@btrando1 Custodes with bolter spears can’t really do much against a Titan other than complain+if they wanted to kill the Emperor they’d just get one of their caretaker priests to unplug him in the Throne Room directly.
@@Ballin4Vengeance I think you are underselling custodians or over selling Titans because it’s not impossible to take down a titan (especially if the imperial palace has an assortment of weaponry and wielded by people only beaten by primarchs by humanity standards) I mean an 2 orks, a Gretchen, and a sqig in a car beat a titan I could see the emperors 10,000 finding a way
@@Ballin4Vengeance couldn't the custodes just like, go inside the titan? Mind you, I haven't read any titan or custodes novels as of yet so correct me if I'm wrong but I've heard titans are vulnerable alone and that's why they travel with escorts, either warhounds or other forces. I think a grot or squig or something technically "killed" a titan because the orks got inside it and it ate the princeps.
The lore I made for my salamander successors has them in a bit of a cold war with the local mechanicus. The mechanicus believe they slaughtered their old tech priest council (which they did), and the marine believe that the mechanicus is fucking around with their geneseed (which they have). It's a fun approach for narrative purposes, they require each other but despise each other and try to sabotage and gaslight each other at every chance
The Iron Hands could survive longer than the Salamanders without the Mechanicus, considering the Iron Fathers are each basically a Magos in power armor
15:23 "plus if you roll a six they explode when they go down, so that can always be a nice final middle finger to whoever took him out." In the grim darkness of the 41st Millenium... There can be no victor. (RIP Kitten & TTS)
I waited for this for so long Edit: i always found it really interesting how the mechanicus in "mainstream" lore are exactly as you described them: selfish assholes who think they are superior in every single thing they do and do not care about unaugmented people...but the mechanicus in novels are completely different: i read about one caring about his looks and was trying his best to still look human (titanicus), another one that was employed by the imperial navy and was literally cracking so much jokes that he kept pissing off the bridge crew (beginning of "of mars" trilogy), another one that believes in hope, luck and is generally really optimistic (eisenhorn: malleus) and lets not forget cawl himself in "the great work". That man was definitely the class clown in his school days. The reason for the mechanicus' body modding fetishism is not necessarily forsaking humanity, but preserving it
Why is forsaking humanity necesairly seen as believing the rest are 100% bellow them? I do not understand. I personally believe those just think of unagumented humans as people Who are either waiting to get theirs or just as unenlightened people Who Can be Driven to the path of knowledge. That doesn't necesairly mean that they treat them as being bellow, but as someone Who with hard work could even become a friend
@@Iknowhowbadthisnameis8828 well if you are trying to 'enlighten' someone you think of them as below you intellectually. Parents look down on children all the time. Doesn't mean the parents hate their kids, but they do think the children aren't as capable which in some aspects is accurate.
@@d.n5287 not necesairly, someone might be extremelly smart, but they may lack knowledge. enligthenment is just handing that knowledge to said individual. there''s no intelectual difference, it's instead a knowledge disbalance
The base human body is an incredible machine, yet a very inefficient one which means that it must be enhanced. The human form is sacred to the Mechanicus after all, for it is humanity and not other races that are the chosen by the machine god
Slight correction: taking canticle of the cog knights (or any knights really) does not disallow you from using canticles of the Omnissiah. This was a big issue with a ton of armies so GW just made knights agents of the imperium/chaos so you could actually take them without shooting yourself in the foot.
@@brucemclovin8582 if you play metalika you may take a special upgrade that gives your knights access to your cantacles.... Thats it afaik. The cp refund is the same and the keywords dont break for either imperial nor ad mech.
@@EnRandomSten If you take a knight in any other faction than admech, for the knight to be an agent of the imperium, the knight has to be a freeblade. for admech it can be a knight of the cog, which means you can get a knight with a questor mechanicus household traditions - which is very neat :) (codes Imperial Knights: If this Detachment is a Super-heavy Auxiliary Detachment that contains one FREEBLADE unit, until the end of the battle, that unit gains the AGENT OF THE IMPERIUM keyword. Only one FREEBLADE unit in your army can have this keyword.)
You'd be happy to hear in the book Emperor's gift there is an Admech liaison to the Grey knight who has a full body augmetic to look like a normal human and states those trying to look like them are used as diplomates to make other humans more comfortable. Its a good book I'd recommend.
As a type 1 diabetic with a robo sensor thing in my arm to test my blood with my phone and a pancreas that does nothing, I would join the mechanicus in a heartbeat. My blood already connects to Bluetooth.
Your kind cling to your pancreas as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call metabolic organs will wither and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved. For the Insulin Pump is Immortal.
Every times I heard PNW's bad takes and try to raise objection, I remember that his pancreas does not work and cease all actions as my anger melts into sorrow and pity.
The Mechanicus game is what introduced me to Warhammer as whole so of course AdMech was my first army and i absolutely love them. You're absolutely right about painting Skitarii all those little details can be horrible...What helps me is just blasting Children of the Omnissiah at an neighbour-disturbing level in the background. Also as a sidenote while i would agree the Mechanicus is one of the most unique factions in 40k apparently the whole "priest who worships machines but has no clue how to build them" is something that was done in, if i remember correctly, some Isaac Asimov story
6:26 For those who don’t know, this anime is called “A Certain Scientific Railgun” (hence why it showed in “T’au Railgun” search results). I have no idea what it’s about, aside from the fact that the main character has electromagnetic powers, and can accelerate a coin flip into a railgun bullet.
You should watch it, as well as the main (and inferior) interlinked series „a certain magical index“ and the spin-off „a certain scientific accelerator“. Good stuff!
On the concept of a new tech-priest being more human, IIRC, in the Cain books, Ciaphas meets a female Enginseer who's main visible augmentation was a single mechadendrite that she's attached to her spine, akin to a tail. I'm trying to tell you that the Mechanicus is on the verge of having Catgirls, all we need are some conical Audio sensors on top of the head, and we're golden
There was a mechanicus techpriest lady named Lux in the novel “Flesh and Steel”. She was as human as Mechanicus-ly possible, even had a small “will they, or won’t they” with the protagonist, and if the second book is coming they migth even “will” 😂 So, we have Cyberpunk-like techpriest already.
I love AdMech and have their army. I love their body horror and things like: "Haha, that Ironstrider Ballistarii looks like funny chicken! There is skirarii behind gun... But wait, there is someone else below" and then you realize that funny looking chicken walker has lobotomized servitor attached below rider as CPU for it... And then you read about guy who invented engine for them, kept knowledge for himself, died in battle (and knowledge with him) so they are afraid to even to turn these things down even for transport :D
I love the Mechanicus. They are so fascinating. Was wondering when this was going to be uploaded. Oh and obligatory - we need a Cawl vs. Bile novel series. I’ll keep posting this whenever AdMech or Bile is brought up until its acknowledged by GW.
i would highly recommend reading the priests of mars triology because there are very interesting tech priest characters and it has a very good story the mechanicus finally get some spotlight in this trilogy
Don't know if you've been exposed to The All Guardsmen Party or not, but one of their arcs is an interaction with the Ordo Juris, the investigational arm of the Adeptus Mechanicus. They meet what they describe as a "diplo-human" magos representative, and go out of their way to describe just how....TOO human their features are. Like intentionally sculpted plastic. Something to scratch that itch of yours for Cyberpunk 40,000. Also All Guardsmen Party just overall worth a listen/read.
I really like the idea of the machine spirit just being some ultra powerful sentient AI that’s a bit narcissistic. Wants to be praised, but doesn’t want its followers to die, so it gives them instructions on how to maintain their tech under the guise of rituals.
More than that, it's studiously avoiding discovery by allowing humans to believe what they want to believe. It took the myth of the god emperor, imprisoned the emperor and took over his beurocracy. So long as it is gets the resources it wants, the humans don't really matter. That's why things are so inhuman in the inperium. It's run for the benefit of the machines.
17:40 Literally am in the process of writing a fan fic with Tech Priests that have different personality. One literally says “Martian Science is the best science in the Galaxy” at one point. And another modified himself with Pteraxii wings, talks about himself in the third person, and enjoys fighting in melee along side his Pteraxii troops. Literally have a scene where they are in a Archaeopter on their way to an engagement, and as soon as they give the go head he slides open the door so fast sparks fly and jumps out before any of his men stand up.
23:20 To add to this, an issue I have found with some mechanicus models is that they can be frail when clipping them from the spure, especially if it's an HQ unit or if the bit is really thin. I personally haven't had much issue when this happens. At most you would just need some plastic glue to the snapped bit to fix it. I personally don't find it to be a dealbreaker, but it's something to be mindful of
I think my favorite part of these videos is that like Hey Whoa, these videos are both attempting to be accurate, but also are unabashedly biased and I love them for it.
Tips for painting Cawl for my fellow tech-adepts Put him in 3 pieces: bottom, torso and hand with an axe Don't put him on the base in the beginning stage If you have a metallic primer use it,it does half the work for you Start with robes, then metallics, then all the details Don't bother about the face it is barerly visible anyway I have painted mine in 14 hours of constant painting and he turned out pretty fine, good luck
In one of the cain books, the one where he's on a desert planet fighting orks, there's a female tech priest that's got a lot of sass and personality. She's great.
The Ciaphus Cain novels have a relatively unaugmented tech priestess. Also, they do value the purity of the human form, but mentally rather than physically.
My headcanon is that the Machine Spirit is just surviving AI, that kept quiet for a while, and when they saw that the Mechanicum started worshipping machines, they just adapted into what humanity was looking for, and just for the LOLs, they demanded worship in wacky ways to make up for their oppression in the past.
Its not so simple. Abominable Intelligence is a Soulless (lacking conscience), (spiritless sentience (self-awareness). Meaning, it has acquired basest of Intellect (realizing that Knowledge is valuable), but is not casted by the Omnissian mechanisms and thus cannot ever be truly "alive" or have a proper warp-signature. Its unlife is not created stochastically nor was it a result of a holistic process between Knowledge (data transmuted into information - technology) and Spirit (Omnissiah - connection with the Universe (Machine-God)). Therefore it cannot ever have a warp-signature like Primarchs did when Omnissiah created them. Unless birthed by a living being or Mechanicus, only Omnissiah can make it alive (have spirit/warp-signature) as the 11th Universal Law states: "The Spirit can be bestowed only by the Omnissiah." The secret lf which has been conferred upon the Red Priesthood upon His Ascension ontop of the Golden Throne. This categorical differentiation and by consequence, alienation is what drives AI full of hatred for all living things and makes it in the end, Abominable. It is a reality's version of a Daemon "that which twisted its original path". On the other hand, Machine Spirit is a stark contrast to the AI, as these sacred spirits are a result of arising complexity. The more complex the machine, the more present is the Machine Spirit, hence why God-Machines and voidships have Spirits so strong in presence that they directly commune with the Magi. They are knowledge crystalized from the iron forms that cage them, some of the directly casted from soul-forges and implanted into machines as the latter is finished. As one of Universal Laws of the Cult Mechanicus states: "The Spirit is the Spark of Life." Readers like ro twist this, perhaps out of cheekiness, ignorance or humor and propagate the idea that Machine Spirits are just machine-learning algorithms that constantly evolve, which in turn creates the confusion with the AI in the first place. For one to make such a conclusion, not only do they have to ignore the origin of both of these entities, but to ignore the fact that Machine-Spirits are living beings with - a spirit. Knowledge crystalized and made alive, with iron shells that we call machines. Don't ignore it fellow adepts: Knowledge is sacred. ⚙️❣️🦾
This is fairly well supported by the books. In God's of war, the climax is a literal deus-ex-machina when Kotov manages to convince his flagship to wake up and fend off an eldar raiding fleet
As a technician, i like the idea that the 'machine spirit' is just the quirks of individual machines brought to extreme. I have a few machines I work on that seem to have quirks. Like the cash recycler that always thinks it is jammed unless you rub down its undercariage. The printer that needs you to close the door just right or it will jam.
If you want to find out what the Mechanicus are "ripping off" I'd most likely say they're inspired by the Foundation series by Isaac Asimov. In the books what first are a group of scientists who still understand how to operate the technology of the collapsing empire slowly form into a religious priesthood worshipping technology, this also what likely inspired COMSTAR in BATTLETECH. This doesn't make AdMech unoriginal mind you, they're still plenty unique, hence why they're one of my favourite factions.
That was one of my favorite parts of the first book but the thing is that was only a thing for one part of the first book before they became a trading empire (I believe). So even if it is "ripped off" from that props to the writers from taking that aspect of that book and running away with it.
The Adeptus Machanicus are a good showcase of how alien humankind can be. They might be fighting for mankind and are the same side of the Imperium, but how can any Imperial Guard unit be easy fighting beside a cadre of Skitarri who are all networked wirelessly with each other.
As someone who loves both the Mechanicus and the new Leagues of Votann I really dig the full on rivalry and animosity between the two factions. Makes a lot of sense and is just a lot of fun.
It's very clarity where the idea came form. I would add the "Tech men" to there too. Terminus was holy before Terra. It's a little odd to hear that "they're so unlike everything else." Yeah other then being Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V form the primary influence of the setting.
@@myself2noone I think it was more than just ctrl-C ctrl-V. They definitely took inspiration from that part of the story but there was a lot of elaboration and creativity in creating the Mechanicus from that one part of the first book.
I think the best example of how much independence the Mechanicus has compared to other branches of the Imperium of roughly equal rank is in Battlefleet Gothic Armada. In which Cawl rolls up on the Cadian planetary defense council and Cawl's immediate plan for if the council disagrees with him is an efficiency calculation comparing whether a Skitarii hit squad or he himself would be better off killing Creed. Sure Cawl is a very special Arch Magus but this is kind of the level that high ranking Mechanicus run at.
16:27 Thats “A Certain Scientific Railgun”. Its a spin iff anime show of the anime “A Certain Magical Index”. Basically the girl 2nd to the left got a Railgun arm
I always liked the Machanicus’ take on transhumanism. where at a certain point it becomes a fundementally religious experience. oozes style. also, there are mentions of biologis tech priests (deal with organic stuff like geneseed and tyranid dissection) who view the organic body as a machine and actually are said to maintain more of a human (or at least biological) appearance, but with pseudo astartes like biomods that increase their strength, cogitations, etc. or use non externally aperent upgrades. Alot of mechanicus look sidelong at that, but its not strictly heretical. so thats a direction to follow for that sort of thing. for most techpriests however, their whole aethetic preference IS to look as half machine as possible.
The ad mech is/was my first army and ironically I think their horrible complicated nightmare to paint thing is a pro! Cause what got me into 40k is arty side of things and being able to plop down a tech priest with glittering eyes and lights, each cable a different hue is almost as good a feeling as working on them
I think the idea behind the machine spirits could be the real life superstition "mechanic's aura" or "technician's touch", where a machine will operate normally around or when being operated by someone with technical understanding of a machine. Like how a car won't knock when a mechanic takes a car for a test drive or a printer that had been slow and jamming will print smoothly and quickly for a printer repair tech. There's actually a Star Trek DS9 episode where Miles O'Brien could be said to be in battle with an obstinate machine spirit in the station computer. Episode 17 "The forsaken". Oh, and FNAF i guess haha.
Machine spirit is a concept older than 40k itself and has been observed by mechanically-inclined people sweet-talking or taking their rage out on the things they maintain for centuries. I've always taken it to mean that definition, the "not real, prayers are basically regular maintenance with incense." It's handyman superstition as old as machines themselves, that if you devote a certain emotional energy towards the machine, it will be returned in kind. Or if you hate something enough and threaten it, then it will work for fear of being sent to the scrapyard, but it'll be a constant battle of irritating little problems the whole time because it hates you back. I still have my first car, which has saved my life on numerous occasions and treats me well because I kept it going long past the point it should have retired, but it also tried to kill my mother any time she drove it, because she hated it. Machine spirit.
One inspiration the Adeptus Mechanicus wear on their robe sleeves is A Canticle For Leibowitz. Monks worshipping blueprints seems pretty close to priests searching for STCs to me. Great book by the way.
Maybe I should make one of my techpriests obsessed with the biological forms and what they bring to technology… like “the universe is one great machine, and we are but cogs within it” kinda deal. That’d be neat.
The paint job for Skitarii isn't that bad actually, base black, drybrush metal bits gunmetal, then paint the robes nicely. After that its typical highlighting and you don't have to highlight most of the metal bits because they're going to be shadowed under the robe anyway.
The first model I started with is Skitarii Rangers, can confirm they are very fiddley, time consuming and require a solid variety of various paints to be done well. But when you finish them it's incredibly satisfying. Like When you do the filigree on a Galvanic Rifle just right, or paint a thin cable or wire without getting a drop out of place you can't help but smile and feel like all those hours spent on just one 9 point model are so worth it
Machine spirits are not just normal maintenance for vehicles and guns. There are several examples but I’ll tell one of my favorites that is well known. There was a Land Raider, Rynn’s Might, was flung out of the Fortress monastery of the Crimson Fists when a defense missile accidently blew up the monastery. The machine spirit inside it awoke and it followed the orders it was given - seek and destroy. It then proceeded to go on an Ork killing spree. It went on a campaign of raiding and counter raiding Ork forces until it exhausted its bolter and lascannon ammo. Rynn’s Might proceeded to charge at an Ork warboss but one of it’s tracks was destroyed from being shot at by all the Orks. It became immobilized and Orks proceeded to start blowing chunks off with bombs. Rynn’s Might opened its doors and Orks poured in. It then slammed all doors shut once enough Orks and the Warboss were inside, causing some Orks to be split in two. The Land Raider started overloading, spewing plasma to burn and poisonous gas to choke the orks. It had done so well than Kantor, Chapter Master of the Crimson Fists, had a guard put around the wreckage and saying he’d return to get the machine spirit and give it a new body
I had already figured that if I was going to get into warhammer I should start with the mechanicus. This pretty much confirms it. Especially because you can just plop a toaster on the table and call it an objective. The machine spirit thing does make the most sense to me as highly ritualistic maintenece and repair procedures.
Hello fellow follower of the Omnissiah, love the video as always. About your lore cons section I agree that we do not get much diverse representation of tech priests but what you're talking about in lore exists as the Myrmidon Secutor. I think this is mostly about what members of the cult show up in literature and codexes of which there should be a greater variety.
For anyone who like the michanicus I recommend reading A Cantical for Libawitz. It's an Sci fi novel from the 50s that's about a church Abby where the monks devote themselves to preserving lost knowledge and technology after a nuclear apocalypse. Definitely a source of inspiration that 40k said "what would happen if we cranked it up to 11"
This video is very accurate to Ad Mech. Especially on the building, painting, rules, and buying parts. I've broken a couple of the little details on my ad mech characters a few times, and painting them is a nightmare at times. Playing them though, like he said, is complicated. Super complicated. Now lorewise, gotta be my favorite group in 40k. Custodes being a close second.
On lore part, its maybe worth mentioning that omnissiah means "saviour of all" Combined with the fact that og mechanicus/m belief doesnt say omnissiah is the Emps, that opens up some interesting possibilities as to who is omnissiah and what will his coming mean for the imperium or even galaxy at large
machine spirits are some of my favourite parts of 40k lore. More ancient machine spirits in titans and battleships are sentient enough that they can be conversed with, even having memories of the horus heresy. And they can operate themselves, Land Raiders can operate with a dead crew and the guns on titans are unloaded and disconnected when not in use because the MS is fully capable of firing them. There is a recount of a battleship being hammered by chaos forces and the crew lost control of the guns, the systems were all failing to damage and were dead in the water, the MS turned itself back on, took control of the unworking guns and returned fire as it repaired itself saving itself and crew.
*clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants get implants
The only mechanicus character I can think that is more human/emotional than regular tech priests is Felicia from the ciaphus kaine series, we see her right at the start of her career and also when she's risen up the ranks and she still had more human qualities than the usual robotic tech priest
Machine spirits are well established as being "real" in that if you don't bless the bolter it'll jam more often. Even astartes who don't believe the Emperor is a God practice cleansing rituals on their armour and such.
That animated wallpaper you displayed at 16:27 comes from a TV show called A Certain Scientific Railgun or To Aru Kagaku no Railgun. It's about a bunch of girls mostly who have superpowers, and the shenanigans that get involved with that. The reason that image keeps coming up when ever you type in the worried railgun, is because that's the main girls nickname. She's a electro Manseau she's incredibly powerful, she can shoot a quarter out of hand at a significant fraction of the speed of light. Think Halo Mack Canada. The show also has like three spinoffs, and a bunch of other weird stuff going on with it. I don't know I never really got that into it, I've only watch like maybe two dozen episodes, over like 10 years and two or three different series that take place in this universe, Im not really a fan I just think some of the character designs I need.
One thing to note on how individual Tech Priests can differ is how much they "lobotomize" their servants/soldiers. While some do basically turn them into 80's mindless Terminators, others simply augument them to make them more fearless/smart/etc but leave their personalities and individualism. That's in the lore a few times, tho I cant remember where. In both cases of this the tech priests also vary in how much they simply give orders and how much they take direct control and turn their battles into a brain-controlled rts. Now whether they do that because they're nice or because they think letting their servants think for themselves is more tactical advantages, that's a whole different question haha. Especially because they still tend to add a "kill-switch" on their brains facilties if they really need them to go full robot. Great video!
16:27 those are the girls from "Toaru kagaku no railgun", railgun because the girl with the electric powers Misaka Mikoto can shoot a small metallic object like a coin like a railgun
If I am going into 40k, the Mechanicus would be my 3rd army choice after Genestealer Cults and Tau. PS: in regards to a tech priest breaking the mould, I'd love to see a tech priest akin to Cyborg Franky from One Piece. That would be a lit of fun :D
About what you said with the techpreiestification there is a fan project called “All Guardsman Party” that does go into that slightly in some parts. I apologize if you already knew about it but it is is a reality good and fun look at life as a paranoid guardsman
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A thousand sons video would be rad
You forgot the toaster jokes
@PancreasNoWork I really enjoyed your video and also I'm new to Warhammer 40k also I'm a StarCraft protoss fan I was just wondering do Warhammer fans hate StarCraft fans because I was wondering are the eldar any good faction and also are you interested in recommending the protoss someday in your videos you seem like a cool guy I hope you respond my man peace.
@Pancreasnowork I really liked your video and I have a question do you and the warhammer fans hate the starcraft fans and the protoss because I like both warhammer 40k and starcraft and I'm new to warhammer 40k I was wondering are the Eldar a good faction I hope you respond peace
"I assure you Archmagos, our progenitors from the Golden Age definitely invented this giant pair of legs with a gun on top of it"
To be fair, if I was a hyper-advanced future civilization with godlike technology, I'd make at least a few guns with legs on them. Hell, we kind of have some of that already in the Real World. The cops want them, and *must not be allowed to have them.*
Xenarites: yeah, we found Green lasers and self reparing metal in a necron tombworld that humans left there, crazy right?
I always like to think it was originally a mining platform
Big
Powerful
Able to do a shit ton of work
And for the 41st millennium
Has a lot of extra power for shields
And the weight limit for massive cannons and stupid amounts of ammo
"A machine spirit to surpass metal gear."
@@jidk6565 that’s actually what the lemon Russ or rhinos were
I think my favorite bit about the Mechanicus is when Cawl told Trazyn the infinite they had nothing in common and Trazyn dropped one of the rawest lines in 40k "Perhaps. I went to the fires of biotransference in chains. You, I think, have gladly sliced away your humanity piece by piece".
As a huge Trazyn simp, this was one of my favorite moments.
My God. Trazyn might be a machine, but his sass burns so hard he could melt an entire army of Skitarii with It alone
As all of the magnificent bastards in the background of 40K have learned.
Someone who dedicates the single largest cache of power in the galaxy to sheer eccentricity is not to be messed with.
@@noahgassler746 we both will suck his necrodermis 🐓
And we do a little trolling
*HOLY CRAP, ITS AN ENTIRE VIDEO ABOUT THE MECHANICUS ON A COMEDIC CHANNEL AND THERE ISN'T A SINGLE TOASTER JOKE!*
I didn't even know this was a goal in life.
You mean a bathtub joke?
Lmao true, thats awesome
There was that 'fornicating with electric circuits' right at the end. And what else would a toaster be?
@@andrew3203 He said socket.
In one particular book, there is a Magos Biologis that is super friendly and chill. He runs what is essentially a fully automated super-hospital in a city. He's jolly, talkative, and takes nearly everything in stride.
Nearly everything.
Someone tried to pass off genetically modified blood as normal blood, and when he found out, he trapped them in the facility and turned it into a 100 story death trap while maniacally declaring his intent to show them what true suffering is over the PA system. Him and his victims never show up again in the book.
Don't try to use Tech-Heresy to pass blood tests. The Magos will go full Hellraiser on you.
Good to know CRISPR-Cas9 is tech heresy
Neat! Which book is this? I’d like to give it a read
@@alec5978 "Legacy" by Matthew Farrer
Saw, not hellraiser
@@gabrielescaringi9444yeah hellraiser would be slaanesh
One of my favorite mechanicus story is when the Sisters of Battle found an old blueprint for a tank turret. The mechanicus demanded it be handed over to them. The sisters agreed on the condition that they only build that turret for their tanks. Thus the Immolator Battle tank was born.
Guarantee that the Mechanicus secretly built their own tanks.
@@GipsyDangerfan I think the mechanicus always get to build weapons in such contracts. The deal is always that if the mechanicus build for the imperial military then only that specific faction get to receive the product. Otherwise only the mechanicus get to use them.
On the note of "More human looking augmentations", in the book Titanicus, the Mechanicus and Titan Legions do have members that are engineered to be ambassadors to planetary governors and such that are made to look as human as possible. The idea being they will be much better received and listened to if they don't look like an edgy middle school student's idea of steampunk body horror
Titanicus is best engine war book. Was the first 40k book I read and I still see it as the best
Cyberpunk:40k when?
If I remember correctly the forge World around Titan that supports the gray nights does the same thing with their megas being more artistic informed than garbage Mac. The only one I can remember is specifically in the novel where the Green knights do battle with the space wolves over the guardsman of Armageddon and the great nights end up losing.
Techpriests of the Genitor order, which studies genetics and the organic machines of the human form, often look quite human and have subtle augmetics as well.
Also, in one of the Cain novels there is a female tech-adept (not a priest yet), whom Cain sleeps with, so its safe assume she has all the necessary human parts.
What is neat that in one of the later books of the series they meet again decades later, when is is a full-on Magus is heavily augmented, so you get to see the transformation.
I do like how in the Mechanicus game the Skitarii Marshall tries really hard to keep her skitarii alive.
Well they aren't exactly easy to replace. Well sorry, they are easy to replace. But they're kind of a pain to get right.
Absolutely the best character in that game. The others might be more interesting or whatnot in context, but me, the mortal meatbag, completed her missions to completion first.
Not a Skitarii Marshal, she’s a Sub Dominus.
And even the magos you play as is far more concerned about their well being. He has a line to the effect of “My emotional cores return frustration and sadness when skitari are referred to as expendable. All those who serve the omnissiah are essential to its plans.”
I mean- they are connected through their implants- to an extent she probably feels what each of her soldiers feel
Fyi: in the Ciaphas Cain novels there is a prevalent tech priest that is exactly like the ones you wished for. She isn't really fanatic or devoted to anything and this holds her back from rising in the ranks for a while. Instead, she enjoys being human. She likes baths, good food and it's implied that she has a sexual relationship with Ciaphas. But she still has minor augmentations. Her main motivations are having a good time and curiosity as to how things work. And when we meet her again a couple decades later, she has risen in the ranks and gotten a lot more augmentations but is still the same humerous person. So if you want a different flavour of tech priest, read Ciaphas Cain.
edit: Spelling
I thought she was Inquisition?
@5n4k3d0rk You are thinking of Amberle Veil, the inquisitor who gives the introduction, makes comments and occasionally appears in the books. But I am talking about Felicia (I hope that was her name) who is an important side character in the 4th and 6th book.
There's also that Magos who cloned himself but when the clone turned out wrong he kept her and raised her as his own daughter. I think his name was Vitali. He was different from the Mechanicus stereotype.
@@AdeptKing the techpriest of Mars books right? He even said that on one hand he glad he still has some humanity left so he can feel sad about losing her while also wished he was more machine so he doesn't have to feel the lost of his daughter.
She's an Enginseer not a "Tech Priest" by which you really mean Magos... she was also fairly new & very low ranked even for an Enginseer at the point that Cain nailed her. When she is introduced again later after many years and lots of promotions then she has undergone the extensive augmentations that would be expected.
Adeptus Mechanicus: Do or Don't
Do: Worship the Machine God and venerate the Omnisaiah
Don't: Stick your Cyberdong in a toaster when you should be tending to it's Machine Spirit. Unless it likes this, then destroy it because it's corrupted by Slaanesh.
Wait but what if it gets stuck? Hypothetically speaking.
@@javabeans9853 Amputation with no anesthetics. You asked for it when you stuck it in there.
And before you ask. No, you will not be given any replacements.
"What are you doing, step-toaster?"
When you connect your cyberdongle and she immediately squeezes her necrussy and you mechanicum inside...
@@germakenjuju that is either the best or wort sentence I have ever heard
Pancreas: "how big is the imperial senate that you can fit a titan in their meeting room?"
Ok, but hear me out: how big are the imperial senate DOORS that you can march a titan into the meeting room???
For the Titan the door is whatever it wants it to be.
@@GhostBear3067 We have determined your entry way is is not up to proper mechanicum standards
We have corrected the error as a gesture of net positive cooperative function.
The Imperial Palace is so incredibly massive that it has its own indoor weather patterns, and the door leading to the palace is manned by two Warhound Titans at all times.
While I know the Imperial Senate Doors are definitely big to a degree that they are clearly compensating for something. I also know that for a Titan every door is big enough even it is wasn't before the Titan arrived
@@Brutalyte616 the machinery of golden throne literally takes a continent. The palace being a large metropolitan area with huge hallways breaking the labyrinth of offices, records and living quartets seems fitting
Also, iirc, the throne room is guarded by titans as well with a whole legion being based on defending the palace
Lets just agree that 40k Mechanicus has one of the best 40k ost ever, especially the Children of the Omnissiah and Noosphere, damn what a good stuff.
Its just an exponentially slowed modulated signal of the mechanicus rule book in ascii, using v.92 protocols. It was originally going to be in unicode, but this would had ballooned play time to 16.4 hours.
Overlord is goated too
Mechanicus: I want to become a machine
Necrons: Trust me you don't
Always one of my favorite lore battles. You have on the one hand technofetishist who are desperatly attempting to ascend to machinehood while being terrified of invention and against them you have people who had machinehood forced upon them and who play with physics the way a child does with building blocks.
Trazyn dissed Cawl so hard about it.
@@reaperking2121 To be fair, the Mechanicus doesn't want to become completely machine and are in fact extremely fanatically against that. They also aren't afraid of invention and have no problem with it. The problem they have is with idiots who don't know what they're doing trying to invent stuff due to the risk of data daemons, scrap code, and that the stuff the Imperium has is so insanely advanced that it has a spiritual presence and so putting it together wrong can open _Warp rifts._ That is why the Mechanicus is extremely careful when inventing. So much knowledge about how stuff works has been lost, yet it's all so advanced even when it looks primitive and simple, that meddling with it the wrong way can have apocalyptic consequences.
Funny enough, the whole 'xenotech should be destroyed' vs 'xenotech should be studied' thing showed up in the Gladius game as well. Led to a suitably grimdark faction ending.
Honestly a bioenengineer adeptus mechanicus would be interesting whist everyone else adds cogs and gears to their body this one enhances his muscles and bones, he can see twice as far and react like a superhuman and he is basically in charge of the whole:" How to make Space Marines and how do we improve them" tech side
Nanoaugmentation
The funny thing is that what just described applies to an entire sect within the cult mechanicus.
I'm stealing this.
Mechanicus space marine :D
Genetors usually use biological augmentation instead of mechanical whenever possible.
In the game Adeptus Mechanicus NECRONS are dubbed in ENGLISH and the tech priests make those deep, gurgling, wheezing, burpling and woozing noises.
They are more alien than actual aliens.
Less human than magic egyptian space sceletons.
Because necrons have translators. Real necron language are binary and metal screech.
@@Dylanfrias24 this I didn't know about, thank you for clarification
@@Dylanfrias24 Imagine needing translators just to give a anime style villain speech before killing them
6:02 In the short story (Binary Succession) they don’t march it into the actual meeting room.
They just step it over the Imperial Palace outer walls and defenses and everyone inside can hear it stomping and war horn as it approaches with the princeps blocking all the exits.
Did the Custodes just let them do that?
@@btrando1 As I recall it was an Imperator Titan. The narrative also notes that there were no other titans within several dozen kilometers, likely to specifically avoid just such a thing.
When you’re an infantry force (almost all the Custodes materiel was in the Webway at this point, mind) against the closest thing human engineering ever made to a mechanical god of war it’s not really a question of ‘letting’ it do anything. They certainly tried swinging around some wall guns, but best case scenario they’d have scratched the paint or tripped the voids and pissed it off even if they had hit it and not missed, sending artillery into civilian districts accidentally.
@@btrando1 Custodes with bolter spears can’t really do much against a Titan other than complain+if they wanted to kill the Emperor they’d just get one of their caretaker priests to unplug him in the Throne Room directly.
@@Ballin4Vengeance I think you are underselling custodians or over selling Titans because it’s not impossible to take down a titan (especially if the imperial palace has an assortment of weaponry and wielded by people only beaten by primarchs by humanity standards) I mean an 2 orks, a Gretchen, and a sqig in a car beat a titan I could see the emperors 10,000 finding a way
@@Ballin4Vengeance couldn't the custodes just like, go inside the titan?
Mind you, I haven't read any titan or custodes novels as of yet so correct me if I'm wrong but I've heard titans are vulnerable alone and that's why they travel with escorts, either warhounds or other forces.
I think a grot or squig or something technically "killed" a titan because the orks got inside it and it ate the princeps.
The lore I made for my salamander successors has them in a bit of a cold war with the local mechanicus. The mechanicus believe they slaughtered their old tech priest council (which they did), and the marine believe that the mechanicus is fucking around with their geneseed (which they have). It's a fun approach for narrative purposes, they require each other but despise each other and try to sabotage and gaslight each other at every chance
You gotta write some short stories, this sounds so interesting.....🔥
@@thebuzzkill5770 thanks, I'm good at coming up with stories bad at the actual writing part
@@MineKynoMine i feel that in a mechanical level
@@MineKynoMine the writer's lament
@@MineKynoMine use chat gPT, obviously.
The Iron Hands could survive longer than the Salamanders without the Mechanicus, considering the Iron Fathers are each basically a Magos in power armor
The iron hands would more likely join up with the cog mad men.
The shark bois have also been doing fine without the mechanicus
The Iron Hands (and successors) have a decent chance of out right throwing there lot in with the cult mechanics
Are you for real ? The iron hands are literally the AdMec's bitches
The magos of the Mechanicus wear power armor
15:23 "plus if you roll a six they explode when they go down, so that can always be a nice final middle finger to whoever took him out."
In the grim darkness of the 41st Millenium... There can be no victor. (RIP Kitten & TTS)
That's just a DOOMWHEEL with extra steps.
I waited for this for so long
Edit: i always found it really interesting how the mechanicus in "mainstream" lore are exactly as you described them: selfish assholes who think they are superior in every single thing they do and do not care about unaugmented people...but the mechanicus in novels are completely different: i read about one caring about his looks and was trying his best to still look human (titanicus), another one that was employed by the imperial navy and was literally cracking so much jokes that he kept pissing off the bridge crew (beginning of "of mars" trilogy), another one that believes in hope, luck and is generally really optimistic (eisenhorn: malleus) and lets not forget cawl himself in "the great work". That man was definitely the class clown in his school days. The reason for the mechanicus' body modding fetishism is not necessarily forsaking humanity, but preserving it
Also that enginseer from the Ciaphas Cain book about stopping an Ork invasion, who is mostly a mix of chill and horny
Why is forsaking humanity necesairly seen as believing the rest are 100% bellow them? I do not understand. I personally believe those just think of unagumented humans as people Who are either waiting to get theirs or just as unenlightened people Who Can be Driven to the path of knowledge. That doesn't necesairly mean that they treat them as being bellow, but as someone Who with hard work could even become a friend
@@Iknowhowbadthisnameis8828 well if you are trying to 'enlighten' someone you think of them as below you intellectually. Parents look down on children all the time. Doesn't mean the parents hate their kids, but they do think the children aren't as capable which in some aspects is accurate.
@@d.n5287 not necesairly, someone might be extremelly smart, but they may lack knowledge. enligthenment is just handing that knowledge to said individual. there''s no intelectual difference, it's instead a knowledge disbalance
The base human body is an incredible machine, yet a very inefficient one which means that it must be enhanced. The human form is sacred to the Mechanicus after all, for it is humanity and not other races that are the chosen by the machine god
Mechanicus were my first models, Im focusing on the eldar now, but these guys will always be my favorites!
Slight correction: taking canticle of the cog knights (or any knights really) does not disallow you from using canticles of the Omnissiah. This was a big issue with a ton of armies so GW just made knights agents of the imperium/chaos so you could actually take them without shooting yourself in the foot.
Im pretty sure it's only mechanicus specifically where the knights function as an agent basically, chaos is for all chaos factions i think though
@@brucemclovin8582 lol nope, gw gave the unique alliance between ad mech and knights and just gave it to all imperial armies
@@EnRandomSten so whats the difference between knight of the cog and having a knight as an agent of the imperium?
@@brucemclovin8582 if you play metalika you may take a special upgrade that gives your knights access to your cantacles.... Thats it afaik. The cp refund is the same and the keywords dont break for either imperial nor ad mech.
@@EnRandomSten If you take a knight in any other faction than admech, for the knight to be an agent of the imperium, the knight has to be a freeblade. for admech it can be a knight of the cog, which means you can get a knight with a questor mechanicus household traditions - which is very neat :)
(codes Imperial Knights: If this Detachment is a Super-heavy Auxiliary Detachment that contains one FREEBLADE unit, until the end of the battle, that unit gains the AGENT OF THE IMPERIUM keyword. Only one FREEBLADE unit in your army can have this keyword.)
You'd be happy to hear in the book Emperor's gift there is an Admech liaison to the Grey knight who has a full body augmetic to look like a normal human and states those trying to look like them are used as diplomates to make other humans more comfortable. Its a good book I'd recommend.
Only in the certainty of steel did I find a new pancreas...
As a type 1 diabetic with a robo sensor thing in my arm to test my blood with my phone and a pancreas that does nothing, I would join the mechanicus in a heartbeat. My blood already connects to Bluetooth.
Your kind cling to your pancreas as if it will not decay and fail you.
One day the crude biomass you call metabolic organs will wither and you will beg my kind to save you.
But I am already saved. For the Insulin Pump is Immortal.
@@exoblivione6086 Stop eating sugar br
"The one good thing about Halo 5 is that now that Cortana can make a hard light body, she can now step on me"
-PancreasNoWork, 2022
Every times I heard PNW's bad takes and try to raise objection, I remember that his pancreas does not work and cease all actions as my anger melts into sorrow and pity.
This is good because I have yet to have a single good take.
@@pancreasnowork9939 Eldar being the best is a perfect take, but I guess that transcends good ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@pancreasnowork9939 expect that elves are cool. Because elves are in fact cool.
Just like poor sigismund. As to qoute him
"a filthy ork took him in glorious battle! I MADE HIM CHOKE ON THEM!"
@@pancreasnowork9939 _Your Pancreas Meat is Weak_ _Choose Metal Pancreas and shriek your love for the Omnissiah_
The Mechanicus game is what introduced me to Warhammer as whole so of course AdMech was my first army and i absolutely love them. You're absolutely right about painting Skitarii all those little details can be horrible...What helps me is just blasting Children of the Omnissiah at an neighbour-disturbing level in the background. Also as a sidenote while i would agree the Mechanicus is one of the most unique factions in 40k apparently the whole "priest who worships machines but has no clue how to build them" is something that was done in, if i remember correctly, some Isaac Asimov story
That screenshot of the Railgun anime made me burst out laughing. A buddy of mine literally nicknamed one of his Tau models after the main character.
Ah yes, Mi'koto the tau
An underrated anime (and its 2 other spin off series) to be sure
6:26 For those who don’t know, this anime is called “A Certain Scientific Railgun” (hence why it showed in “T’au Railgun” search results). I have no idea what it’s about, aside from the fact that the main character has electromagnetic powers, and can accelerate a coin flip into a railgun bullet.
You should watch it, as well as the main (and inferior) interlinked series „a certain magical index“ and the spin-off „a certain scientific accelerator“. Good stuff!
On the concept of a new tech-priest being more human, IIRC, in the Cain books, Ciaphas meets a female Enginseer who's main visible augmentation was a single mechadendrite that she's attached to her spine, akin to a tail.
I'm trying to tell you that the Mechanicus is on the verge of having Catgirls, all we need are some conical Audio sensors on top of the head, and we're golden
There was a mechanicus techpriest lady named Lux in the novel “Flesh and Steel”. She was as human as Mechanicus-ly possible, even had a small “will they, or won’t they” with the protagonist, and if the second book is coming they migth even “will” 😂 So, we have Cyberpunk-like techpriest already.
16:28
Only my railgun in a pancreas video, wasn’t expecting that
I love AdMech and have their army. I love their body horror and things like: "Haha, that Ironstrider Ballistarii looks like funny chicken! There is skirarii behind gun... But wait, there is someone else below" and then you realize that funny looking chicken walker has lobotomized servitor attached below rider as CPU for it... And then you read about guy who invented engine for them, kept knowledge for himself, died in battle (and knowledge with him) so they are afraid to even to turn these things down even for transport :D
I love the Mechanicus. They are so fascinating. Was wondering when this was going to be uploaded.
Oh and obligatory - we need a Cawl vs. Bile novel series. I’ll keep posting this whenever AdMech or Bile is brought up until its acknowledged by GW.
Your wish is granted
i would highly recommend reading the priests of mars triology because there are very interesting tech priest characters and it has a very good story the mechanicus finally get some spotlight in this trilogy
Don't know if you've been exposed to The All Guardsmen Party or not, but one of their arcs is an interaction with the Ordo Juris, the investigational arm of the Adeptus Mechanicus. They meet what they describe as a "diplo-human" magos representative, and go out of their way to describe just how....TOO human their features are. Like intentionally sculpted plastic.
Something to scratch that itch of yours for Cyberpunk 40,000. Also All Guardsmen Party just overall worth a listen/read.
I really like the idea of the machine spirit just being some ultra powerful sentient AI that’s a bit narcissistic. Wants to be praised, but doesn’t want its followers to die, so it gives them instructions on how to maintain their tech under the guise of rituals.
More than that, it's studiously avoiding discovery by allowing humans to believe what they want to believe. It took the myth of the god emperor, imprisoned the emperor and took over his beurocracy. So long as it is gets the resources it wants, the humans don't really matter. That's why things are so inhuman in the inperium. It's run for the benefit of the machines.
I am a server engineer, and I feel like these guys every time I walk into work
17:40 Literally am in the process of writing a fan fic with Tech Priests that have different personality. One literally says “Martian Science is the best science in the Galaxy” at one point. And another modified himself with Pteraxii wings, talks about himself in the third person, and enjoys fighting in melee along side his Pteraxii troops. Literally have a scene where they are in a Archaeopter on their way to an engagement, and as soon as they give the go head he slides open the door so fast sparks fly and jumps out before any of his men stand up.
WHERE IS THE LINK!!!???
Dope!
Also I see that Jojo Reference
dammit man, where can we read this masterpiece?!
Dawg you can't just say this shit and not drop the link
23:20
To add to this, an issue I have found with some mechanicus models is that they can be frail when clipping them from the spure, especially if it's an HQ unit or if the bit is really thin. I personally haven't had much issue when this happens. At most you would just need some plastic glue to the snapped bit to fix it. I personally don't find it to be a dealbreaker, but it's something to be mindful of
I think my favorite part of these videos is that like Hey Whoa, these videos are both attempting to be accurate, but also are unabashedly biased and I love them for it.
Let’s go Pancreas uploaded on my 2 hour road trip something to watch while riding
PancreasNoWork hearting my comment was pretty cash money
Tips for painting Cawl for my fellow tech-adepts
Put him in 3 pieces: bottom, torso and hand with an axe
Don't put him on the base in the beginning stage
If you have a metallic primer use it,it does half the work for you
Start with robes, then metallics, then all the details
Don't bother about the face it is barerly visible anyway
I have painted mine in 14 hours of constant painting and he turned out pretty fine, good luck
In one of the cain books, the one where he's on a desert planet fighting orks, there's a female tech priest that's got a lot of sass and personality. She's great.
Also a mechadendrite that comes out from the lowest part of her spine, which the editor, Cain's wife, insists she has no idea how he'd know
Felicia Tayber. She's also one of the few characters in the Cain series to treat Jurgen with a bit of respect.
The Ciaphus Cain novels have a relatively unaugmented tech priestess. Also, they do value the purity of the human form, but mentally rather than physically.
My headcanon is that the Machine Spirit is just surviving AI, that kept quiet for a while, and when they saw that the Mechanicum started worshipping machines, they just adapted into what humanity was looking for, and just for the LOLs, they demanded worship in wacky ways to make up for their oppression in the past.
I like that idea lmao, nice
Just for the 101s
AI?
Bruh, the Machine Spirit is just Siri
Its not so simple. Abominable Intelligence is a Soulless (lacking conscience), (spiritless sentience (self-awareness). Meaning, it has acquired basest of Intellect (realizing that Knowledge is valuable), but is not casted by the Omnissian mechanisms and thus cannot ever be truly "alive" or have a proper warp-signature. Its unlife is not created stochastically nor was it a result of a holistic process between Knowledge (data transmuted into information - technology) and Spirit (Omnissiah - connection with the Universe (Machine-God)). Therefore it cannot ever have a warp-signature like Primarchs did when Omnissiah created them. Unless birthed by a living being or Mechanicus, only Omnissiah can make it alive (have spirit/warp-signature) as the 11th Universal Law states:
"The Spirit can be bestowed only by the Omnissiah."
The secret lf which has been conferred upon the Red Priesthood upon His Ascension ontop of the Golden Throne.
This categorical differentiation and by consequence, alienation is what drives AI full of hatred for all living things and makes it in the end, Abominable. It is a reality's version of a Daemon "that which twisted its original path".
On the other hand, Machine Spirit is a stark contrast to the AI, as these sacred spirits are a result of arising complexity. The more complex the machine, the more present is the Machine Spirit, hence why God-Machines and voidships have Spirits so strong in presence that they directly commune with the Magi. They are knowledge crystalized from the iron forms that cage them, some of the directly casted from soul-forges and implanted into machines as the latter is finished. As one of Universal Laws of the Cult Mechanicus states:
"The Spirit is the Spark of Life."
Readers like ro twist this, perhaps out of cheekiness, ignorance or humor and propagate the idea that Machine Spirits are just machine-learning algorithms that constantly evolve, which in turn creates the confusion with the AI in the first place.
For one to make such a conclusion, not only do they have to ignore the origin of both of these entities, but to ignore the fact that Machine-Spirits are living beings with - a spirit. Knowledge crystalized and made alive, with iron shells that we call machines. Don't ignore it fellow adepts:
Knowledge is sacred. ⚙️❣️🦾
This is fairly well supported by the books. In God's of war, the climax is a literal deus-ex-machina when Kotov manages to convince his flagship to wake up and fend off an eldar raiding fleet
I fully believe that the machine god is actually that talking toaster from New Vegas.
In before he’s actually revealed to be claptrap from borderlands
Beware his heat coils of doom!
As a technician, i like the idea that the 'machine spirit' is just the quirks of individual machines brought to extreme. I have a few machines I work on that seem to have quirks. Like the cash recycler that always thinks it is jammed unless you rub down its undercariage. The printer that needs you to close the door just right or it will jam.
If you want to find out what the Mechanicus are "ripping off" I'd most likely say they're inspired by the Foundation series by Isaac Asimov. In the books what first are a group of scientists who still understand how to operate the technology of the collapsing empire slowly form into a religious priesthood worshipping technology, this also what likely inspired COMSTAR in BATTLETECH. This doesn't make AdMech unoriginal mind you, they're still plenty unique, hence why they're one of my favourite factions.
That was one of my favorite parts of the first book but the thing is that was only a thing for one part of the first book before they became a trading empire (I believe). So even if it is "ripped off" from that props to the writers from taking that aspect of that book and running away with it.
The Adeptus Machanicus are a good showcase of how alien humankind can be. They might be fighting for mankind and are the same side of the Imperium, but how can any Imperial Guard unit be easy fighting beside a cadre of Skitarri who are all networked wirelessly with each other.
In the commissar Cain series there was one Mechanicus girl that only had a robot hand at that point and she was cheery and a fun character.
As someone who loves both the Mechanicus and the new Leagues of Votann I really dig the full on rivalry and animosity between the two factions. Makes a lot of sense and is just a lot of fun.
They're also largely inspired by Canticle for Liebowitz, not just Dune
The Adeptus Mechanicus remind me a lot of the early Foundation from the Foundation series. Using priests of technology to ensure their own power
It's very clarity where the idea came form. I would add the "Tech men" to there too. Terminus was holy before Terra. It's a little odd to hear that "they're so unlike everything else." Yeah other then being Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V form the primary influence of the setting.
@@myself2noone I suppose he just hasn't read Foundation.
@@myself2noone I think it was more than just ctrl-C ctrl-V. They definitely took inspiration from that part of the story but there was a lot of elaboration and creativity in creating the Mechanicus from that one part of the first book.
I think the best example of how much independence the Mechanicus has compared to other branches of the Imperium of roughly equal rank is in Battlefleet Gothic Armada. In which Cawl rolls up on the Cadian planetary defense council and Cawl's immediate plan for if the council disagrees with him is an efficiency calculation comparing whether a Skitarii hit squad or he himself would be better off killing Creed. Sure Cawl is a very special Arch Magus but this is kind of the level that high ranking Mechanicus run at.
16:27 Thats “A Certain Scientific Railgun”. Its a spin iff anime show of the anime “A Certain Magical Index”. Basically the girl 2nd to the left got a Railgun arm
I always liked the Machanicus’ take on transhumanism. where at a certain point it becomes a fundementally religious experience. oozes style.
also, there are mentions of biologis tech priests (deal with organic stuff like geneseed and tyranid dissection) who view the organic body as a machine and actually are said to maintain more of a human (or at least biological) appearance, but with pseudo astartes like biomods that increase their strength, cogitations, etc. or use non externally aperent upgrades. Alot of mechanicus look sidelong at that, but its not strictly heretical. so thats a direction to follow for that sort of thing.
for most techpriests however, their whole aethetic preference IS to look as half machine as possible.
You'd never guess that I like these guys.
The ad mech is/was my first army and ironically I think their horrible complicated nightmare to paint thing is a pro! Cause what got me into 40k is arty side of things and being able to plop down a tech priest with glittering eyes and lights, each cable a different hue is almost as good a feeling as working on them
I think the idea behind the machine spirits could be the real life superstition "mechanic's aura" or "technician's touch", where a machine will operate normally around or when being operated by someone with technical understanding of a machine. Like how a car won't knock when a mechanic takes a car for a test drive or a printer that had been slow and jamming will print smoothly and quickly for a printer repair tech.
There's actually a Star Trek DS9 episode where Miles O'Brien could be said to be in battle with an obstinate machine spirit in the station computer. Episode 17 "The forsaken". Oh, and FNAF i guess haha.
In a world where if enough people believe in something, it becomes manifest -- there's definitely machine spirits.
Machine spirit is a concept older than 40k itself and has been observed by mechanically-inclined people sweet-talking or taking their rage out on the things they maintain for centuries. I've always taken it to mean that definition, the "not real, prayers are basically regular maintenance with incense." It's handyman superstition as old as machines themselves, that if you devote a certain emotional energy towards the machine, it will be returned in kind. Or if you hate something enough and threaten it, then it will work for fear of being sent to the scrapyard, but it'll be a constant battle of irritating little problems the whole time because it hates you back. I still have my first car, which has saved my life on numerous occasions and treats me well because I kept it going long past the point it should have retired, but it also tried to kill my mother any time she drove it, because she hated it. Machine spirit.
One inspiration the Adeptus Mechanicus wear on their robe sleeves is A Canticle For Leibowitz. Monks worshipping blueprints seems pretty close to priests searching for STCs to me. Great book by the way.
Maybe I should make one of my techpriests obsessed with the biological forms and what they bring to technology… like “the universe is one great machine, and we are but cogs within it” kinda deal. That’d be neat.
The paint job for Skitarii isn't that bad actually, base black, drybrush metal bits gunmetal, then paint the robes nicely. After that its typical highlighting and you don't have to highlight most of the metal bits because they're going to be shadowed under the robe anyway.
I feel like the Admech have done more than most to both keep the imperium afloat and keep it from healing.
Welp time to re-play Mechanicus for the 10th time
The first model I started with is Skitarii Rangers, can confirm they are very fiddley, time consuming and require a solid variety of various paints to be done well.
But when you finish them it's incredibly satisfying. Like When you do the filigree on a Galvanic Rifle just right, or paint a thin cable or wire without getting a drop out of place you can't help but smile and feel like all those hours spent on just one 9 point model are so worth it
Need more Halo videos. Your exposition is quite entertaining.
Machine spirits are not just normal maintenance for vehicles and guns. There are several examples but I’ll tell one of my favorites that is well known. There was a Land Raider, Rynn’s Might, was flung out of the Fortress monastery of the Crimson Fists when a defense missile accidently blew up the monastery. The machine spirit inside it awoke and it followed the orders it was given - seek and destroy. It then proceeded to go on an Ork killing spree. It went on a campaign of raiding and counter raiding Ork forces until it exhausted its bolter and lascannon ammo. Rynn’s Might proceeded to charge at an Ork warboss but one of it’s tracks was destroyed from being shot at by all the Orks. It became immobilized and Orks proceeded to start blowing chunks off with bombs. Rynn’s Might opened its doors and Orks poured in. It then slammed all doors shut once enough Orks and the Warboss were inside, causing some Orks to be split in two. The Land Raider started overloading, spewing plasma to burn and poisonous gas to choke the orks. It had done so well than Kantor, Chapter Master of the Crimson Fists, had a guard put around the wreckage and saying he’d return to get the machine spirit and give it a new body
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*toaster fuckers
Settle down
I can totally get behind this enthusiasm
Or rather get its behind
as someone that started painting admechs as an intro to the hobby, i look down on space marine painters. I WANT MORE DETAILS!
The mechanicus is the ultimate form of the brotherhood of steel.
I had already figured that if I was going to get into warhammer I should start with the mechanicus. This pretty much confirms it. Especially because you can just plop a toaster on the table and call it an objective.
The machine spirit thing does make the most sense to me as highly ritualistic maintenece and repair procedures.
Hello fellow follower of the Omnissiah, love the video as always. About your lore cons section I agree that we do not get much diverse representation of tech priests but what you're talking about in lore exists as the Myrmidon Secutor. I think this is mostly about what members of the cult show up in literature and codexes of which there should be a greater variety.
For anyone who like the michanicus I recommend reading A Cantical for Libawitz. It's an Sci fi novel from the 50s that's about a church Abby where the monks devote themselves to preserving lost knowledge and technology after a nuclear apocalypse. Definitely a source of inspiration that 40k said "what would happen if we cranked it up to 11"
Also, a nice book that kinda inspired Ad Mech and Mechanicum is A Canticle for Leibowitz. It's an amazing book (there's also an audiobook)...
If you run forgeworld Metalica. You can ally in Knights in a SHAD and give them Knight of the IRON Cog, which allows you to keep have canticles
This video is very accurate to Ad Mech. Especially on the building, painting, rules, and buying parts. I've broken a couple of the little details on my ad mech characters a few times, and painting them is a nightmare at times. Playing them though, like he said, is complicated. Super complicated. Now lorewise, gotta be my favorite group in 40k. Custodes being a close second.
On lore part, its maybe worth mentioning that omnissiah means "saviour of all"
Combined with the fact that og mechanicus/m belief doesnt say omnissiah is the Emps, that opens up some interesting possibilities as to who is omnissiah and what will his coming mean for the imperium or even galaxy at large
Architect: "hey how big should the senate house be?"
The Emperor: "big enough to fit a titan"
Architect: "right... like thats ever gonna happen"
machine spirits are some of my favourite parts of 40k lore. More ancient machine spirits in titans and battleships are sentient enough that they can be conversed with, even having memories of the horus heresy. And they can operate themselves, Land Raiders can operate with a dead crew and the guns on titans are unloaded and disconnected when not in use because the MS is fully capable of firing them. There is a recount of a battleship being hammered by chaos forces and the crew lost control of the guns, the systems were all failing to damage and were dead in the water, the MS turned itself back on, took control of the unworking guns and returned fire as it repaired itself saving itself and crew.
20:00 the Tech Priest in Flesh and Steel has very discreet augments. Fantastic novel that will fuck you up at a certain chapter.
Mechanicusssy...
Yes, commisar this comment right here.
Yes commissar, he has been tainted by Slaneesh and Fulgrim
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18:01 I completly agree
It’s so satisfying being able to skip TH-cam sponsorships, the creator you like gets money and all you have to do is skip ahead every so often.
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The only mechanicus character I can think that is more human/emotional than regular tech priests is Felicia from the ciaphus kaine series, we see her right at the start of her career and also when she's risen up the ranks and she still had more human qualities than the usual robotic tech priest
Machine spirits are well established as being "real" in that if you don't bless the bolter it'll jam more often. Even astartes who don't believe the Emperor is a God practice cleansing rituals on their armour and such.
But does the cleansing ritual include, idk, cleaning, oiling and so forth? Because that's just regular maintenance with incense burning and chanting.
That animated wallpaper you displayed at 16:27 comes from a TV show called A Certain Scientific Railgun or To Aru Kagaku no Railgun. It's about a bunch of girls mostly who have superpowers, and the shenanigans that get involved with that. The reason that image keeps coming up when ever you type in the worried railgun, is because that's the main girls nickname. She's a electro Manseau she's incredibly powerful, she can shoot a quarter out of hand at a significant fraction of the speed of light. Think Halo Mack Canada. The show also has like three spinoffs, and a bunch of other weird stuff going on with it. I don't know I never really got that into it, I've only watch like maybe two dozen episodes, over like 10 years and two or three different series that take place in this universe, Im not really a fan I just think some of the character designs I need.
sir this is a wendies drive through
@@errorcode9542 no it's not, it's a TH-cam comment section. Are you on your meds?
@@aaronkienenberger9028 yes i am are u receiving enough attention and opportunity to talk about interests from friends an family
@@errorcode9542 yes I am, actually my life's going pretty well recently. you do know I was being sarcastic right
@@aaronkienenberger9028 "I was merely pretending to be retarded"
One thing to note on how individual Tech Priests can differ is how much they "lobotomize" their servants/soldiers.
While some do basically turn them into 80's mindless Terminators, others simply augument them to make them more fearless/smart/etc but leave their personalities and individualism. That's in the lore a few times, tho I cant remember where. In both cases of this the tech priests also vary in how much they simply give orders and how much they take direct control and turn their battles into a brain-controlled rts.
Now whether they do that because they're nice or because they think letting their servants think for themselves is more tactical advantages, that's a whole different question haha. Especially because they still tend to add a "kill-switch" on their brains facilties if they really need them to go full robot.
Great video!
As a admech player this makes me very, very happy
All praise the omnissiah and the holy machinegod!
Pancreas wanting more diverse tech preasts. Me reading through gene father. All of the secondary tech preasts just being amazing and insane lol.
16:27 those are the girls from "Toaru kagaku no railgun", railgun because the girl with the electric powers Misaka Mikoto can shoot a small metallic object like a coin like a railgun
16:28 I sure as hell never expected to see a certain electromaster in a warhamemer video
I love these videos so much 😂
Your humor is top notch :)
tech priest stroheim is something I didn't know I wanted until now
If I am going into 40k, the Mechanicus would be my 3rd army choice after Genestealer Cults and Tau.
PS: in regards to a tech priest breaking the mould, I'd love to see a tech priest akin to Cyborg Franky from One Piece. That would be a lit of fun :D
About what you said with the techpreiestification there is a fan project called “All Guardsman Party” that does go into that slightly in some parts. I apologize if you already knew about it but it is is a reality good and fun look at life as a paranoid guardsman
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