Luke 11:27-28 As he said these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed!” But he said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it
"I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images." -Isaiah 42:8 God bless God the Alpha and the Omega
Nicholas Diaz, It seems you have not read the Old Testament: Numbers 21: 8 And the Lord said to him: Make brazen serpent, and set it up for a sign: whosoever being struck shall look on it, shall live. 9Moses therefore made a brazen serpent, and set it up for a sign: which when they that were bitten looked upon, they were healed. Diaz, God the Father told Moses to make a "Brazen Serpent" so that the people that were bitten "shall look on it, Shall live" Diaz, did God the Father Contradict Himself? NO!!!! These people who were bitten by the serpents was not worshipping the "Brazen Serpent" Has they look on it, so neither do Catholic worship statutes. Amen Daiz, therefore if there is a statue of the Blessed Virgin Mary and you see a Catholic looking at it and praying they are not doing any more that they of the Old Testament who were looking on the Brazen Serpent. The Brazen Serpent, is a typology of the Crucifixion.
I dont understand, why not pray directly to the King of Kings and Lord of Lords ? instead of praying to saints or mary. Jesus is our High priest, and He is our mediator between God and man. The veil is torn and middle wall of separation is broken, we can have direct fellowing with God through his Son Jesus !
I honestly can't see how one verse (Rev 5:8) can possibly substantiate the entire doctrine of praying via Mary, especially when a) it's Revelation, and it's a little dubious when people pin doctrine on very specific parts of the text, given the genre of literature b) it's not established who the elders are c) it's not established why they are holding the incense or what they're doing with it d) not est when in time this is meant to be (note this chapter also has all creation praising Jesus)
revelation ch 5:8 Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 9 And they sang a new song... He took this out of context. Christ said when you pray to do so in this manner "Our Father who is in Heaven..." you know the rest. No scripture for praying to Mary or to saints. Only to the Father who is in Heaven.
I thank the Lord Jesus what it's written in His Word in Hebrews 4:16 tells us that we believers here on earth, can "approach the throne of grace with confidence, What a great God we have through the intercession of the Son who always intercedes for us. Revelation is a prophetic and symbolic book, you would have to quote the gospels or Paul's letters.
wtf, I was reading those verses Revelation 5, 8:3-5, those verses are really vague. While these verses are very clear: Timothy 2:5 says, “For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." Acts 4:12 "Salvation exists in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.” (It's Jesus Christ.)
I'm catholic for life! When God said not to worship any idols, he meant what he said! You're suppose to pray only to Jesus...the statue that you pray to can not deliver you're prayers to Jesus because it's only a man made clay statue. I don't need a statue to deliver my prayer to God, I pray to God only through my heart.
Words of Paul "I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed."
I'M PROTESTANT (... for now). The more I look into Catholicism, the more truth I find. The more I look at the Protestantism I was raised on, the more disenchanted I am with it. The CATHOLIC Church is where all Christian churches have their roots. From the time Jesus left Earth (and put Peter in charge), there was only one church. And it stayed that way until the Protestant reformation. I'm wondering if I'm drifting toward joining the Catholic church. Maybe so.
Timbrock1000 You will not regret your decision if you choose to be Catholic. Catholic means 'universal'. It is the Universal Christian Church. It is the Mother church.
That's not true. The [C]atholic church is not the orthodox church and much of the heterodoxy and heresies came centuries later. Look up the difference between the church catholic and the Catholic church (Roman church). The true orthodox church catholic is what Martin Luther was fighting for, that is for the doctrine of the first century catholics which are the doctrines of Peter and Paul and all the holy apostles.
causeimbatmaaan Luther!!!??? A Catholic priest, who denounced his priesthood and promises to God and then went with a nun who disobeyed her obedience to God of her promises. Luther wanted to burn passages of the Bible, especially the book of James. And Luther's quotes about him seeing the devil and the devil throwing excrement at him, and then Luther throwing it back at the devil suggests otherwise. He created a schism in the true Mother Church, the Catholic faith. Luther was originally Catholic as well. And before that, there was only the Orthodox and Catholic faith, the two Apostolic Churches with the same Bible. There was no other Bibles, truncated ones like the Protestants have now. You don't know history.
Immortalsouls Luther did not denounce his priesthood; apparently you don't get the concept of figurative language; and THE schism in the true church happened well before luther who did not cause a schism but brought people back to the true church and away from schism which was the [C]atholic church (that's a propper name, see the capitol C), which is the Roman Church, an invention of the schism. Before that there were neither Orthodox (remember to watch the propper nouns, those are the ones with a capitol letter at the beginning) nor Catholic but only the true orthodox (which is not propper noun, see no capitol, it's adjectival which means it describes something) church and that original true church DID NOT acknowledge the Apocryphal books as inspired canonical scripture. YOU do not know the history of the church.
Oh you denounce Catholicism as the original Church do you? The ' Universal' Church. I don't think you know what you're talking about when Saint Peter went to Rome. The Orthodox Church is in the East. The continuation of the Mother Church split in the early Church was still from Rome. The Bible was canonized by the Catholics in the council at Trent. So don't tell me I don't know my history. Jesus only has one true Church, & that's the Universal Catholic Church.
the problem here is the catholics definition of a saint.saints are also living people,the sanctified and justified in Christ. Acts 9:32 (Peter) "that he also came down to the saints who dwelt in Lydda." 2 Cor. 13:13 "All the saints greet you." Eph. 1:1 " To the saints who are in Ephesus, and faithful in Christ."Eph. 1:1 " To the saints who ARE in Ephesus, and faithful in Christ."2 Cor 1:1 "To the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints who are in all Achaia" Col. 1:2 "To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ who are in Colosse" While the Roman Catholic church waits decades and even centuries to bestow sainthood on a certain individual, Peter and Paul did not. they addressed their letters to the saints who were alive
@CaliforniaCatholic While we are glad of having Tim Staples as a professor of Catholic faith, let us not call other Christians heretics. I have always admired Catholics(the ones that I know) for never spouting off hateful remarks about other religions. We are bringing the Light of God, not condemning.
Without communion of saints on Earth and in Heaven there will be no Unity within the Church. We are all members of one body in unity with our lord Jesus Christ and proud to say Catholic Church has that. James 5:16 (NIV) say's" Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective. If we could ask our brethren here on earth to pray for us how much more it is powerful and effective to ask the saints, blessed, and angels in heaven to pray for us its not worshiping them but rather asking them making request to pray for us because they are closer to God they are with God. they are not dead they are alive. because in Heaven all are alive and not dead. because God is the God of the Living and not of the Dead. this is our reward, the reward of Eternal life.
Nowhere in Revelation does it say the saints know the content, or quantity of those prayers, or who they are from. Prayer is said to be a sweet smelling incense to God, this is all Rev 5 and 8 are pointing to. Here is a verse that specifically tells us to go to God and not the dead.. Isa 8:19 19 And when they say to you, "Consult the mediums and the spiritists who whisper and mutter," should not a people consult their God? Should they consult the dead on behalf of the living?
This is a really poor argument for why we should pray to saints. For one, this is the ONLY relevant verse in Chapter 5: "8And when he [the Lamb] had taken the book, the four living creatures and the four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having each one a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints." (Revelation 5:8) You will notice it is NOT the saints in Heaven that possess the incense, it is the four living creatures and 24 elders. In fact, the only ones even present in all of Chapter 5 are God, the lamb, the living creatures, the elders, and multitudes of angels. No saints are present in this particular scene at all. And in the scene in Revelation Chapter 8 the one angel adds incense and the prayers of the saints before God's throne. No one is arguing that God receives the prayers of the saints, or that the angels aren't even the ones who somehow transport them to God. But these verses don't indicate whether or not the beings can actually hear and discern the prayers. Perhaps only God can receive them. And either way, no saints are actually there. Only their prayers are there. And, even IF all the angels and beings there CAN hear the prayers of the saints, that would suggest using this exact same argumentation, that Christians should pray to angels then, and we know for a fact that is not true. So just because someone was there doesn't mean we should pray to them. And that's not even taking into account that this is apocolyptic writing (as opposed to a parable or a literal teaching) which dramatically affects the way that we should interpret the text. This is a very poor example of biblical exegesis from Tim. I think before the church essentially endorses a form of necromancy, and tries to explain why from an apologetic point of view, they need to do a better job of arguing why, or just stick to saying "we're the authoritative church and we said so."
@freeangel378 Our blessed Virgin Mother is not above God. When we (Catholics) say she is the mother of God we are saying it because she gave birth to Our Lord Jesus Christ who is God. This is why she is special and holy because of the simple fact that she said yes to God's plan and became the mother of Our Lord Jesus Christ
Giving honor to Mary is more than required of us all, as is giving honor to the Prophets, and emphasis on 'Prophets', not 'self appointed' non-scriptural based saints! We are all saints, but we are not all 'Adorned' with the worldly acclamation of being so! No church has been erected in my honor of being a saint, and there is no scriptural reference of anyone needing to pray to God via me! But there is simply no scriptural reference where we are asked to pray to Saints and Angels! We pray to the One, true and living God, through his son Jesus Christ. Anything more or less than that is simply man-made hypothesis!
What you or I 'Think' has no bearing on the truth. We can 'think' that the best way of getting to the North Pole is by traveling East, doesn't make it right! Read John 14:6 then get back to me! The Father gave his son power and authority to do His (The Father) will on earth, not Mary! when I read, "No one can come to the Father except through Mary" then I will believe that the is Biblical justification to pray to Mary, but there's not so praying to Mary is no more than a false practice. Also God gives others 'Authority', for example, John the baptist had authority to baptize Jesus, not the other way around!. Nice try though.
***** To admit such a truth, and it is a truth....., would mean for one if not more post Christian faiths, to be at best incorrect and false. It seems that many would rather perpetuate and justify an incorrect view than to accept that they're wrong. Speaking as an addict in recovery, that's a human trait if ever there was one. I feel a sense of remorse for those in such a position. However, God is truth, God cannot lie.
Catholics confess their sins to man when everyone sins none are worthy of the lords grace Mary was human just like us and had to accept jesus as her savior too
God bless you and all Orthodox Christians-both. Yes there are differences, such as the filioque, the immaculate conception of Mary, and Papal infallibility and primacy, but really these small differences compared to the tons of differences that Protestants have from us. And we can discuss these things one day and it will lead us to being one. What's great about the Orthodox Church is that it is still founded on Apostolic Succession and Tradition, which the Protestants do not have at all.
I was a fallen away Catholic who became "Born Again" and then returned to Catholic Church in large part because of Tim Staples. Read and listen to what you can get hands on by him, in particular his personal conversion story.
Michael Ty are you 100 % absolutely correct ? And if you don't mind who do you think doesn't distort the scriptures ? Remember early Christianity the time closest to CHRIST And His Apostles Those INTERPRETATIONS Are held Within the Catholic Church it's the churches that missed almost all Christianity that stayed in the 16th 17th 18th 20th 21st Centuries and still new ones popping up that Satan does a great job in disguising and deceiving ..... all giving there spins on Christianity I go by what the disciples of the Apostles and the Apostles taught be a use that comes directly from our Lord Jesus Christ and his teachings with the correct interpretations
Michael Ty do you consider the holy scriptures to be the following of Jesus Christ because if the holy scriptures are the following of Jesus Christ which they are the word of Jesus the Christ whom is God and the Catholic Church is who God in the person of Jesus Christ used to canonized and to put the Catholic Bible together which is the universal Bible which is the same exact New Testament that you read from then I'm following the word and I'm following Jesus Christ which is what every single Catholic does naturally and organically. Thomas Aquinas did deal with Aristotle but remember this that all pagans that existed dealt with all Catholics with the Catholic Church it is the Catholic Church which is the same church in Matthew th-cam.com/video/V6OwlfNwc9A/w-d-xo.htmlm18s when Jesus Christ giving Peter the keys regardless of your understanding or what you've read it is a true Universal fact that the church the holy mother Church is the Catholic Church which coincidentally I just ran into a retired minister who is calvinist today which I disagree with Calvinism but he admitted the mother Church of them all is the Catholic Church they know that when they get high and not high regards of teaching and Dad deep years of understanding you reach a point where you understand yes the Catholic church is the church that Jesus Christ started but Satan does a great job of disguising the truth and leading people astray back to Thomas yes he did deal with pagans because God use the Catholic Church to convert all pagans like The Barbarians which in today's world would have been trying to go and convert Isis but the Catholic Church went and converted The Barbarians to pagans I mean to Christians the Vikings and on and on and on and on that's all labor done by the Catholic Church the Catholic Church doing all the labor and history through all the centuries that no non denominational and all these Presbyterians and all these different churches that have popped up existed none of them existed .... only the Catholic Church was started by jews in Jerusalem in the holy land Catholicism completes Judaism as the true religion so how does the Nazarenes .... in Matthew 2 scripture says that Christ shall be called a Nazarenes but Jesus the Christ came from Nazareth ..... scripture also says the first Christians came from antioch St Ignatius of Antioch Bishop of the Catholic Church 107 AD he died being martyred already wrote letters of the, Catholic Church being the Church of Jesus Christ
@VictorLepanto here here mate,wellsaid! i cant bear this dismissalof Our Lady it really upsets me and i admit i takeit personally.she wasin such a dangerousposition until st. Joseph was visited by the angel, but she trusted God completly, and her faith made her brave and strong even though she was only young when she went through all that. she is an inspiration to me asawoman! protestants are missing out by deniying her significance and closeness to God.
Protestants are called Protestants, because they "Protested" against the Catholic Church, which, by the way, has remained the same since the days of Jesus, when Jesus, gave the "keys to heaven" to Peter. The "Protestant" church, broke away from the Catholic, church, taking out of the bible 7 old testiment books, and 3 new testament books, Heb,Jms and Jude, which, were returned later by a Protestant council. The Original bible has never changed.
In the early church a saint was a believer in Christ , a Christian .Hence " the prayers of the Saints " you are referring to ,was just believers praying to God ?? John 14.5 No one comes unto the father ,but through me . Wouldn't prayer be better served by praying directly to God through the son Jesus Christ .? Why waste time going through other channels when we are given a direct line ...doesn't make sense to me to tell Jesus to wait because your praying to some dead Christian .
Does it really matter? Repent and turn away from your sins and trust in Jesus. Love and forgive. Love God with everything. Do unto others as what you would have them do unto you.
Jesus entrusted the fullness of divine revelation to the Church. According to you, everyone is fallible. How do you know your private interpretation is any truer than ours? How can you tell the difference between divine revelation and mere human opinion? This allowance to interpret the Scriptures however one pleases lead to the creation of thousands of separate denominations. The Church has one faith, and has clung to it. We have not *changed* with the times. We stuck with what Jesus and the Apostles originally taught, and we do so with conviction.
The New Evangelization Everyone IS fallible. Nobody is perfect, nor has the perfect wisdom and knowledge of God. Also, why pray to the saints? According to Tim Staples, it all ends up going to God anyway. Lastly, I looked up Revelation 5 in about five translations including the 21st Century King James and the Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition, and it does not say the elders are receiving the incense. It says they have bowls that contain the incense, so it could mean something totally different. Being a Baptist, this is what I was raised on and I have yet to see an infallible argument against it. I may be wrong, but nobody has shown me that yet.
Garrett White I think this is an important point so let me discuss Papal Infallibility. The doctrine of Papal Infallibility does not mean the pope is always right in all his *person* teachings. Catholics are quite aware that, despite his great learning, the Pope is very much a human being and therefore liable to commit human error. One some subjects, like sports and manufacturing, his judgement is liable to be very faulty. The doctrine simply means that the Pope is divinely protected from error when, acting in his official capacity as chief shepherd of the Catholic fold, he promulgates a decision which is binding on the conscience of all Catholics throughout the world. In other words, his infallibility is limited to his specialty-- the Faith of Jesus Christ. In order for the Pope to be infallible on a particular statement, however, four conditions must apply: 1) he must be speaking *ex cathedra* that is, "from the Chair" of Peter, or in other words, officially, as the head of the entire Church; 2) the decision must be for the whole Church; 3) it must be on a matter of faith or morals; 4) the Pope must have the intention of making a final decision on a teaching of faith or morals, so that it is to be held by all the faithful. It must be interpretive, not originative; *the Pope has no authority to originate new doctrine*. He is not the author of revelation-- only its guardian and expounder. He has no power to distort a single word of Scripture, or change one iota of divine tradition. His infallibility is limited strictly to the province of doctrinal interpretation, and it is used quite rarely. It is used in order to clarify, to "define," some point of the ancient Christian tradition. It is the infallibility of which Christ spoke when He said to Peter, the first Pope: "I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven." (*Matt. **16:19*). Certainly Christ would not have admonished His followers to "hear the church" (*Matt **18:17*) without somehow making certain that what they heard was the truth--without somehow making the teaching magisterium of His Church infallible. For a complete understanding of the Pope's infallibility, however, one more thing should be known: His ex cathedra *decisions are not the result of his own private deliberations*. They are the result of many years--sometimes hundreds of years--of consultation with the other bishops and theologians of the Church. He is, in effect, voicing the belief of the *whole* Church. His infallibility is not his own private endowment, but rather an endowment of the entire Mystical Body of Christ. Indeed, the Pope's hands are tied with regard to the changing of Christian doctrine. No Pope has ever used his infallibility to change, add, or subtract any Christian teaching; this is because Our Lord promised to be with His Church until the end of the world. (*Matt. **28:20*). Protestant denominations, on the other hand, feel free to change their doctrines. For example, all Protestant denominations once taught that contraception was gravely sinful; but since 1930, when the Church of England's Lambeth Conference decided contraception was no longer a sin, virtually all Protestant ministers in the world have accepted this human decision and changed their teaching.
Garrett White And about the saints, here's a small argument for it. 1 Tim 2:1-2 - because Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man (1 Tim. 2:5), many Protestants deny the Catholic belief that the saints on earth and in heaven can mediate on our behalf. But before Paul's teaching about Jesus as the "one mediator," Paul urges supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people. Paul is thus appealing for mediation from others besides Christ, the one mediator. Why? 1 Tim 2:3 - because this subordinate mediation is good and acceptable to God our Savior. Because God is our Father and we are His children, God invites us to participate in Christ's role as mediator. 1 Tim. 2:5 - therefore, although Jesus Christ is the sole mediator between God and man, there are many intercessors (subordinate mediators). Why not *magnify* and *enhance* the chances of our prayers being answered by asking the saints to intercede for us before God? These people were victorious in their journey to Salvation and are the Church Triumphant, making them closer to God. The Church is One, we are not separated by death. God is God of the living, not of the dead. We are united in life in Christ. Just as we could ask our neighbor on Earth for prayers, we may also do so of our brothers and sisters already in Heaven.
This is just horrible misinterpretation of those Scriptures. How can you think that those prayers are addressed to those saints in heaven? You don´t need any mediator between God and you except Jesus Christ alone. I´m sure those prayers are adressed to Christ and Father or Holy Spirit, not to the dead saints. There is no proof of it for me in this video.
kitty - your church teaches that mary had no sin so the duh really should be levelled at your catechism. your church teaches mary was immaculately conceived and lived a sinless life and died a virgin. which is ridiculous in the light of what scripture teaches. mary needed a saviour, mary had other children.
we have very different definitions of grace and sin. you also have a very strange way of reading scripture. the vessels were unclean until they were declared clean by God. in fact it took a lot of blood to clean them. now lets see if you really understand scripture paul writes in romans: none is righteous no not one, ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. No one does good. He wrote this while mary was still alive. Mary like all of us is a filthy sinner! Does that offend you? Good. the gospel does offend. Scripture say all of us are like one who is unclean (ALL OF US). even our righteous acts are like menstrual cloth to God. Do you know which scripture i am quoting? have you read it? Mary is not the mother of God in the sense you put it. she was the earthly mother of Jesus but Jesus was alive before Abraham. 1 john 8: " If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. " We here refers to all saints. None is without sin. My righteousness as a saint does not come from my own effort nor anyone else's. It comes from Christ ALONE. Mary is NOT a god. she is not Omnipresent which she would have to be in order to hear prayers. it is astonishing how much material Paul and the apostles produced regarding salvation, doctrine and church government. but they are totally silent about Mary. Why? because mary is not special in any way but one - she raised Jesus as an earthly mother and she even occasionally was nonplussed by him. Mary us great but she is not a coredeemer and she has never heard a single prayer. and yes she was a sinner. but her son's blood saved her as it did me. you commit gross idolatry to think otherwise.
Kitty BooBoo you said: "You are I were Saved AFTER we fell into the pit. Mary was Saved BEFORE she fell into the pit." - prove it with scripture. "She is the Mother of the 2nd Person of the Trinity, the Godhead that was BORN on earth!"- this is heresy. Jesus was never created or born. he said "before Abraham was born I am" - this is in scripture. "Not only can the Virgin Mary hear all our prayers in multiple languages from all across the World, all at once" - opinion. where is the proof from scripture? you are just making conjecture. To hear a billion prayers you would have to BE God - not just a member of the spirit world. "Idolatry is when you place something else BEFORE God." this is your idea but scripture says something very different. “You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me” (Exodus 20:3-5). "What you're really telling me is that God CHANGED His mind ... from not dwelling in Sin in the Old Testament TO now dwelling in Sin in the New Testament. What a disgusting and disgraceful teaching!" what on earth are you talking about here?
Kitty BooBoo "Either you are full of Grace OR full of Sin" actually I am full of grace and i need it because I am full of sin. you don't really understand biblical grace. but to call me a fool? how dare you? not for my sake but for your own for have you never read: Matthew 5:21-22. “Whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.” do you deny that Jesus existed before his birth?
@Iraneus Jesus tells us he is "God of the living, not of the dead" so that should give you more reason not to involve the dead in your prayers. The crucial questions to ask are these: Did Christ give us specific instructions on how to pray and whom to pray? And the answer is YES, Jesus gave us the Lord`s Prayer. Are we given examples of righteous men and women making prayers to God? YES, there are plenty in the Bible. Do their prayers involve asking the help of saints? NO they don`t.
Saints in the bible refer to all alive people who believe in the son of God (Jesus ) ... So just one verse in revelation to justify praying to Mary is not valid !!! Awake people !!
This is a classic misinterpretation of the Biblical text! He explains it completely out-of-context! Its unbelievable! The definition of 'saints' mentioned in Revelation 5:7 or anywhere else in the Bible is not the modern Roman Catholic definition of 'saints'. Saint simply means 'a person with goodness'. Apostle Paul called his fellow Christians 'saints'!! The prayers of the saints simply means the prayers of us - the followers of Christ!! Canonisation did not exist then! THINK!
God, gave us parents in this world, and He will not take that from us in the next, for God gives us what we know and love in this life our parents, and it is One of the Ten Commandment that we shall honor Our parents. God will not leave us half Orphaned in heaven thus the reason why he gave us Mary as MOTHER FROM THE CROSS TO US, via John. Amen
John 14:6- I am the Way, the Truth, and the Light. No one comes to the Father except through me. 1 Timothy 2:5-For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. Matthew 23:9-Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. Exodus 20:4-5-You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. You shall not worship them or serve them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Catholicism is not biblical and contrary to God's word. Please try reading the bible yourself and see.
why praying through Mary. Jesus himself made it clear that. I AM THE ONLY WAY, now people are using Mary's way, wow. to those who pray through Mary just know that Jesus is the only way To God. Mary is 100% human. and praying to her or through her is like praying to the King of Bibilon(spelling plz), whom Daniel and his 3 friends refuse to. JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY
Why will u consult a doctor.because he knows what is wrong with u and what has to be done.he will give u the right medicine. But its the god who finally cures your illness. So what is the role of mary in our prayers(illnes,worries,ambitions,thanksgiving etc)..? She is a good Doctor.
that is not Convincing Alex. you may try to defend your way of praying, because you believe it's the right one. i might also do the same. BUT, what if it is not the right one ??. Christian believe in Trinity, God, the father, Son and the holy spirit. there is no God, the mother. if you wanna talk to God or go to God. Jesus is the only way Joshy. praying through Mary is a dead end
JESUS IS GOD i had no faith in Mother Mary earlier.I had many doubts and questions about the Mother Mary.But later Holy Spirit gave me insight about the influence Mary in me and my family. when i pray rosary,i can really feel presence of god(jesus) in my heart. Iam saying the truth dear.
I do understand, but pray like we pray God of Israel or God of Abraham. but if you say mother Mary tell your son Jesus(not really sure how you guys say), is like you are praying to an ancestor. we say I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord or in the name of father, son and holy spirit. don't pray, like you praying God or Jesus via Mary. remember , she is just Human like you. remember Messiah himself said, I AM THE ONLY WAY TO GOD, about the influence of Mary in your family and you, you're hallucinating because that is the presence of the holy spirit. just remember that Mary is human like you. nothing Godly about her. let us not give praise to man like we give praise to God, because that is one of the 10 commandments. good luck Alex Joshy
Your video suggests that we actually worship Mary we don't we ask her to pray for us with the line 'pray for us sinners'. It's just like you would ask someone you admire to pray for you, hope that helps
That helped. But I do not understand one thing. If you ask someone to pray for you such as your brother or sister or any other family member when they are alive. Do you ask them topray for you, when they die? Why not?
We can do, yes! It's whether those prayers get answered if they do and are miraculous they could be considered a saint (but it's a lengthy process to get it recognised that I can go into if you want me to ). We also pray for the dead 'rest eternal grant to then oh Lord and let light perpetual shine upon them.' Btw I'm not catholic I'm a high Anglican sort of a catholic Protestant mix !! Hope that helps 😊
@Jerzyrican808: "Each." Can't you listen. The elders in Heaven, all of them, hear & receive our prayers. Why do you insist that Mary, somehow uniquely amongst them, must be excluded from this? She is to be praised by "all generations." She said yes to Christ, & received Him before anyone else. Yet you would single her out for dismissal & diminishment. It is you who are defying & diminishing the word of God.
I think one of the fundamental core problems in the dialogue about prayers to saints and Mary is an understanding of the mystical body of Christ and the communion of saints. Non-Catholic Christians seem to not understand that the mystical body of Christ is ONE. The mystical body of Christ IS NOT two. There is not one mystical body of Christ in heaven and another on earth. Those Christians who died in the friendship of God and are now in heaven ARE STILL part of the mystical body of Christ. Those who died imperfectly purified but saved because of the redemption of Christ ( those in purgatory) and those of us here on earth bearing witness to Christ are all part of the same body. Christ (God) commanded us to pray for each other. That still includes those others who ARE STILL part of the mystical body of Christ whom are in heaven. They still pray and intercede for us because they are still obedient and ever willing to love what Jesus loves, which is our salvation. That is called the communion of saints. Protestant Christians I think do not understand the mystical body of Christ or the communion of saints and that is why they misread our friendship with the saints and angels as "worship" or replacing the mediatorship of Christ before God the Father (redemption) with humans or created angels. They're misunderstanding comes from a lack of the fullness of the truth. Unfortunately, those are the consequences of not being in the Church Jesus Christ established. They holy spirit cannot reveal to them the whole truth and they misunderstand Sacred Scripture.
Give me one scripture which says that Purgatory exists . The fact is that there's no such place . The Bible says that we are to worship God alone ,and by praying to mary and saints catholics sin . They pray to statues and light candles in front of them , isn't that idolatery my friend ?
Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. When Mary heard this greeting to Her by the angel Gabriel she was troubled! Why Was Mary troubled? Because God has given Mary a new name "Full of Grace". Mary New name of Full of Grace means she is the dispenser of God's Grace to us for She is Full of Grace pressed down, shaken together and over flowing. What a wonderful / powerful Mother we have in Her. Amen Acts 8: And Stephen, full of grace and fortitude, did great wonders and signs among the people. Yes, Stephen was full of grace, and did great wonders and signs among the people, How MUCH MORE Mary who had her name Changed to FULL OF GRACE, by God, How much great wonders and signs she HAS DONE & CAN DO for us than Stephen, such to ask Her Son and God Jesus Christ, to do His First Miracle, (the wedding in Cana) even when He stated it is not time, He our Lord listen to Her, so why don't we. Amen
Yuhe, Virgin Mary is NOT God!!! I Never said was God, Tell me where any Catholic has said Virgin Mary is God??? Yuhe, Was the Angel Gabriel Idolizing Mary when he uttered the Words "Hail Mary FULL of Grace"??? Tell me did Elizabeth Idolizing Virgin Mary, when she said: "WHO AM I THAT THE MOTHER OF MY LORD SHOULD COME TO ME...??? Yuhe, Tell me did John the Baptist, who leapt for JOY in his mother womb, When he heard Mary's Greeting??? All of the above is what we Catholics do for Virgin Mary. For Virgin Mary said: "ALL GENERATIONS SHALL CALL ME BLESSED" Yuhe, do you call Mary Blessed???
+Yuhe Yuhe your creating a statement that no catholic believes no wonder why u think the way you do of us Catholics .... the Bible specifically says all generations will call mary blessed Luke 1:48 so that's what we do .... the misconceptions and attacks from so called Christians is ridiculous ... it's pretty funny also to see how many so called chriatia n s are so blind to scripture and to the true history of Christianity
Don't call Mary your good Mother. It IS idolatry. She was a human women who gave birth to the savior of the world. She was not Holy. She was sinful, just like you and I and she realized her need for a savior, just like you and I. She was not powerful, she was human. The Roman Catholic church is filled with lies that reduce the savior Jesus Christ. Why would we need Mary to be our intercessor for our prayers when the Bible clearly states that there is ONLY ONE mediator between God and mankind, Jesus Christ. For two parts of the trinity are pleading before God for us, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Why would we need anyone else?
puck782 2 brotha slow down take it easy ... this is simple you just have not been revealed the fullness of Truth on this matter ... Christ could not be born from a sinful person it is not fitting he had to be born from a sinless woman therefore God conceived Mary sinless she out if any human being plays a very important role in salvation history Jesus the Christ is the center and most important in Catholicism we reduce Our Saviour to nothing he is lifted constantly and is the only mediator between God and man ... mary also still had to be redeemed I can go on about this but Mary is the first Christian and the only human being to look down at heaven .... by holding Jesus the Christ in her arms
@Jnest55 It is not "command", it is revealed and describe as Truth by the Bible and by the Church.So, when you KNOW this TRUTH, that you have a heavenly Mother and saints in heaven that are able to help you, just start to understand the FAMILY of God, living in comunion with one another. It is kind of "selffish" and arrogant to think that you don´t need anyone else in this "comunion of saints. Paul tells us to interceed for one another. Mary has a special place to interceed for us as OUR MOTHER
The worship of adoration is only given to God, the worship of veneration is offered to the angels & saints. Only God is adored, such absolute worship is offered to no one else, for he alone is creator, Lord & the Most High. Completely different from veneration, no matter how exalted...honored because of their nearness to God. The Blessed Virgin Mary, though venerated by the faithful, is nevertheless a creature. Worshiped as the greatest of the saints & the Queen of Angels but she is not adored.
Mailmen are not allowed to read the mail. Think before you make such broad interpretations. Also stop deleting comments showing the errors in your explanation.
The 'rapture' or resurrection of the dead followed by the living saints hasn't happened. The 24 elders in Rev. 5 aren't there yet....1 Thessalonians 4:16,17....." For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the DEAD in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
@Iraneus It is Biblical to ask someone alive to pray for you but not when that someone is already dead. Calling a dead person's spirit to help you with your prayers is spiritism which God hates.
yah go back to Ancient Babylon, they also have a Queen of Heaven or Mother of god called Semiramis, the diabolic Catholic reincarnated her by trashing the Scripture and uses Mary the mother of Jesus the man.
Where in the bible have you read that Mary is our mother, if she is your mother then praise her but don't pray through her. Jesus is the only way to God. Father, Son and the holy spirit but not mother. thus why we have trinity.
Scriptures for that please? Jer_7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger. Jer_44:18 But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine. Mat_12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
this means when you do the will of God, listen carefully, if you like God and wanna serve him then you must do what he commands, stop doing things which you are not sure of, Apostle Peter warned us of saying and doing things certainly without knowing that we are wrong, he is the tip: Jesus taught us to pray to our heavenly father, so be it, he told us to pray to him and it will be given to us, he said we must ask in his name. he never said anything about praying to Mary, and you guys I think you don't read your Bible thus why you can be easily be deceived. You can only pray to God, you can only pray to Jesus, the son of God, because he is given power of everything, even Angels worship him. Praying to a man(saints) is a sin, like most of you Catholics prays to an idol of Jesus, now the question is why talking to my photo if i am alive, why asking for forgiveness to my picture if I am alive ? your God and Lord are alive so you must pray to them but not to the idols you have. I am a die-hard Christian, and everything i am saying here, is from my heart from the love of me for you, the love that our Lord Jesus told us to have, fellow Christians read the Bible and understand, the World is full of deceptions, if you look up to your priest for everything you will die for sure, Read your Bibles guys, Read the book of Romans, Read the Book of James..... there you will learn how to be a Christians, Sexual immorality is still a sin, how can you call yourself a Christian if you don't behave and talk like one, How can you call yourself a christian if you worship idols in your church, how can you call yourself a christian if you pray to man but not to God, how can you call yourself a child of God, if you are a child of a priest, Priest are our brothers but not our fathers, the only spiritual father we have is in heaven Matthew 23:9. READ YOUR BIBLE PLEASE !!!
Rev 5:8 the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of God’s people. These were the Four beast not the Elders
Rev 5? WHERE? Rev 8 maybe??Revelation8:2: And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets. 3: And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. 4: And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. Misquote, ANGELS!
Nowhere throughout Revelation does the bible specifically say WHO the 24 elders are. We can speculate & assume all day that Mary or Paul or anyone else could be one but we aren't in heaven to see for ourselves so we have to go by what is written. So why take the chance of praying to a saint or anyone else except God? And to argue that the elders are the ones giving God the scrolls of prayers proves the point of not praying to the messenger but the actual person of power.
@im4u2bs How are saints dead? They're are in heaven! They are more alive than anyone of us, moreover they live with God! It's not man made its all in the bible. God bless!
@freeangel378 Mary is the mother of the Incarnate Word--Jesus--who is God. We do not put Mary above God, but we do love her very much. Also, we do believe that the one God in three persons has always existed. Mary conceived the Jesus, the Son, by the Holy Spirit. As far as how a creature--and a virgin at that--could do that, well, that's why it's a mystery! Jesus was perfect man and is perfect God. As a perfect man, he is perfect son to his mother. Jesus will listen to his mother's concerns.
@gothicavictoria1341 Mary is made Holy?? where in the Bible can I find that? If Mary is the mother of God, then that puts her above God which contradicts the Bible coz it says God is the Almighty. How can creation give birth to God who existed before mary existed?? If you feel unworthy to talk to God directly, the Holy Spirit aka the Comforter is there to help you, that's what Jesus said/gave to us before He went to heaven. And how can u talk to a dead person's soul/spirit? that's necromancy.tsk
@gothicavictoria1341 Dear friend, thank you for your perspective on this matter. But I felt that I should also remind you that if you are in Christ, and Christ is in you, that you are acceptable to God, by virtue of Christ's grace in your life. Humility will be a spiritual fruit grown in your life, but know that If you are Christ's, God already accepts you as a son or daughter, because you have been adopted as one through Christ. Therefore you can talk to Him directly, as a child to a parent.
Protestants adhere to Martin Luther's vain philosophies before scripture. Through "faith alone" and "you can only get to the father through the son doctrines" they claim exclusive ownership of Jesus blood and sacrifice, usurping Jesus word. They claim salvation usurping Gods judgment. Hundreds of millions have been slaughtered, the poor and hungry spit upon, and land and resources pillaged under the guise, " their are not Christians so they are not worthy of Jesus sacrifice and therefore expendable." I freely admit to the depravity of convents, the priest hood, the papacy, etc. but Proteststants continue to excuse the blood of innocent souls on their hands.
EXCELLANT VIDEO !!! For some strange (rebellion & stubborness) reason, Prots will acknowledge that GOD worked miracles through OTHER Holy people, such as Moses, but they think the same God who worked miracles THROUGH MOSES is unable to work miracles THROUGH MARY.
Revelation 5 does not prove that prayers can be directed to Mary or any saints in heaven. Verse 8 only says the 24 elders were holding the golden bowls containing the prayers of the saints. For catholics to conclude based on this passage that prayers can be directed to saints in heaven is a huge mistake. The truth is all prayers of the righteous that are directed to God are contained in these bowls. Praying to saints has no support in Scripture. Finally, Mary is not one of the 24 elders why...
it's funny jesus says I am the only way to the kingdom of my father not pray to Mary and the Saints too Mary and the saints aren't in the Holy trinity ? she didint stay a virgin either
@Iraneus The elders were holding the bowls, we are told. Does the passage say that those prayers uttered by the saints were directed to those elders? No it does not, the verse is silent on that. The teaching that those elders and the rest of the saints in heaven CAN receive prayers is a huge leap which the verse does not support. Jesus himself, by his teaching did not indorse it. And by his examples, Jesus never practice it. He prays to God the Father and he teaches us to do the same.
You can also use Matthew 18:20 to defend praying with Mary. Jesus says, "20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.” So if you pray by yourself, Jesus does not say he will be with one in his name, but rather 2 or three - so to achieve this while you are praying alone, you petition the Saints, and Mother Mary to pray with you and for you.
@Iraneus There are numerous prayers recorded in the Bible but none of them sought the help of a saint in heaven. Jesus' priestly prayer is recorded in John 17; David's prayers are recorded in Psalms. Paul's prayers are scattered in his letters. None of them asked any saint to pray for them. They all direct their prayers to God alone. So what makes you believe that asking Mary or any saint is the right thing to do?
@TheOrangeGrandMaster found Mary, In the Bible Mary always leads us to Christ, (The shepherds) Luk 2:16 And they came with haste, andand Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger. And in Jewish history and Tradition, the queen Mother is venerated, Jesus Mary's Son, is King, He loves her, we are sons of God and Brothers in Christ, i.e. Mary is our spiritual Mother.
Mary, saints, purgatorians have lived good lives and earned their places in heaven through their life long suffering. Those people have gotten closer to God and pray for us read rev 8:3 read of how Mary helped secure wine for the couple. Jesus wouldnt have done it had anyone else asked. Read of jesus' s death he said john behold your mother and mother behold your son he has given her to us to be our mother but your pastor says no jesus was wrong to have given Mary to us to be our mother. When Elizabeth greeted mary God leapt in her womb. Ask yourself why will God leap in her womb??? Elizabeth said hail mary full of grace tell me someone in the bible who was told he/she was full of grace. Look at revelation 12. Catholics are like children with a strict wealthy father and mum. You guys are like children who have only a strict wealthy father. When you ask your dad for something and he does not feel like or is angry with you you can only suffer in silence but catholics on the other go to their mum to help intercede they also ask their father's loved ones and friends to help beg on their behalf. In as much as you guys will live a comfortable life. We catholics believe that God meant every word when he said behold your mother. Ask yourself Why does the devil hate mary rev 12 17. Mary is our mother honor her and pray through her if you want. The devil is smart he has convinced people not to respect someone God loved and respected. While on earth. If God gave his mother to us christians who are we not to accept as for me and my household I will obey Gods command and behold my mother all my life
Well I didnt agree. Your evidence was not good enough. If jesus did not do what he did in cana and did not tell us to behold his mother and mary did not appear in revelations with jesus then I would have believed. But I understand your point on the fact that some catholics wrongly worship mary or that catholics at times give some of the honor due to God to mary. But the truth is that real catholics know our right from our left. We know that jesus is the greatest and supreme. We know we should only honor and ask her to pray for us. I would never worship mary or else I will go to hell even mary would not want us to worship her. All we try to do is get closer to god through mary saints angels who have lived good lives on earth. The prayers through saints and mary work like charm just so you know. If god was against them I think he would have seized granting such prayers and then the catholic church would seize its practice. But the opposite is the case. Several apparitions, miracles. I am talking from experience tho. If you want to test the power of a saint or mary. Then let her prove it to you it would seem like you are in a chemistry lab. I promise you she will show you she is your motger
You can not translate 'behold his mother' to 'pray to Mary in heaven'. And 'If god was against them I think he would have seized granting such prayers' = as I shown in many bible references, Jesus DID teach us not to pray to dead as it is in form of sorcery, nor any text suggest that Mary or any saints have ability to listen to prayers of millions in heaven as they are still limited, not omniscient like God. You can get close to God without Mary. Jesus clearly taught us that no one in heaven can not reach God except thru Jesus as all the bible texts confirm. Just like Jesus taught us to confess to only to God, not to anyone else while Catholic still allows people to confess to their priest in a tiny room, calling them 'father' (which is also not allowed). You see, it is not only about Mary, there is just so many. Anyway I know that it will take time but I can only wish that you really look into original sources, question why some of Catholic teachings are against the bible, and help God along the way to guide you. Be well.
Do you know the difficulty it takes to humiliate ones self by confessing to a priest. It hurts. Its part of your penance. It adds strength to someones will to resist sin. Its different from just saying I wont do it again. Not that god doesnt forgive that way but catholics di that because of how difficult, the amount of humiliation one will receive I guess you know of st padre pio the stigmatist who was given the gift of reminding one of the sins one was hiding during confession. There is no interpretation for mary being talked about in revelation if she werent so special why does satan hate mary dont you think if the catholics were wrong and comiting idolatry he would love mary with all his heart because by catholics worshiping mary more souls will be damned but he hates mary because she draws catholics to god like rebecca did with jacob. I believe if I were comiting idolatry mary would be satans greatest weapon but the opposite is the case. He knows of what mary can do and is doing currently. So when jesus said john behold your mother he meant mary was only a mother to john.
You think mary in the supernatural is human like you has a desk and cant get in order.if you think the prayers are too many for her then it very difficult for you to believe that mary concieved our Lord Jesus christ by the power of the Holy spirit and not by Joseph ????
@talktomeaboutlife That's why Jesus Christ established his Church and gave her authority to interpret scripture and to lead us to all truth. I am proud that it's the Church making these decisions and not some Joe Shmoe around the corner and I expect the Church to do so just like in Acts 15.
@TheDotaboy24 Mary is indeed the Mother of God, but only mother to the Second Person of the Trinity. She did not give birth to God's divinity, since God has beginning. He's always existed. And praying to Mary and the saints is more favorable to God. Humility is key here. Asking someone in heaven to help you by asking God your request because you feel too unworthy to talk to Him directly is a very humble act, which is a virtue God really enjoys. Mary is holy because GOD made her that way.
I think you dont understand praying through her and praying to her. A seed of hatred has been planted in many protestants towards catholics. This will lead to the ruin of many souls
@mpenaco YOu need someone from heaven who is with god to back up your prayer. if there is no one from heaven apart from god who will help you to pray.... then god is not listening to you, then who else do you think will help you then? The saints, angels and even blessed mother they are in heaven and continously giving praise, honour, glorifying, and worshiping to god. they are holy and their prayer are much, much powerful than the prayer of the sinners here on earth. Get it?
Yes, you can pray directly to God the Father. But having a beloved Saint or even Mary on your side presenting your prayer to God with you or on your behalf... that would be a welcome bit of assistance! It's a lot like asking a faithful friend to pray for you to God but how much better to have a Saint among your prayer partners? Scripture tells us "the fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much" so why not enlist a Saint to help? They are wholly righteous.
We can only Pray to God, but not to saints. This video is clear. We can only Pray to the Lord and to God simple because they are one. trust me praying to saints is a sin. let's stop being stubborn and see what is right in our eyes. The Bible is clear. we pray to God,Son and the holy ghost(Trinity). if you pray to Mary then you must also pray to Moses, pray to Samuel, yes pray to Abraham. there is only God, the father, son and the holy Ghost, i never heard of God. the mother.
Mary played a role in her Son Jesus the Christ redeeming Sacrifice.... Christ performed hid first public miracle because Mary his Mother told him to do so ... Luke 1:48 says all Generations will call me blessed .... I highly doubt you follow that scripture Mary is" Full of Grace " exactly what scripture says .. only two persons name are changed in holy scripture Peter to Cephas the rock and Mary to Full of Grace .... God never changed Saul to Paul ..... that was natural ... Mary full of Grace .... Satan is somewhat more scared If that's the word I can use then her own Son because a lowly maid servant crushed him in scripture rather than being a divine power ... that's deep and absolute truth
@christian333faith .. can you show me in the contents of the bible the word "Bible" itself? How about you show me a passage in the bible that your faith should be based in scripture or bible "alone".
The saints bring "incense" / the prayers to God, which were DIRECTED TO GOD! Not to the saints. The idea that the heavenly saints (Christians) bring prayers before God that were not directed to the Lord, but to the dead saints is nonsense and grammatical and contextual twisting of the worst kind. Please re-consider and repent of this heresy. Our religious prayer, just as our religious only, belongs to GOD, not mere glorified men.
@freeangel378 1st of all, God can do anything because he is the creator. Secondly, this does not put Mary above God because she is the "handmaiden" chosen by God. Thirdly, Mary is "full of grace", which means sinless, which means uncorrupt, which also means, Holy. "And how can u talk to a dead person's soul/spirit? that's necromancy.tsk" It's necromancy when it's done for the sake of necromancy(evil). God is all encompassing and all-powerful therefore can allow Saint' and Mary to hear us.
From the lips of Christ when he said to peter "upon this rock i will build my church" and since his death the succession of peter's chair is unbroken. No one can claim it but the RCC. Therefore the words of Christ is also powerful when he said that even the gates of hell will not prevail. Look at the attack in the church for 2 thousand years until today, the church is unchanged and well known in all corners of the earth.
@TheDotaboy24 Mary is the Mother of Christ, God incarnate, sorry it's biblical, KJV Luk 1:43 And whence [is] this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? yes all things created by God's Word, though His Word, and by His Word. (No Mary, no Jesus). Allah is not 'Father God,' that is blasphemous to a muslim. And Jesus to them was just a man.
Luke 11:27-28
As he said these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed!” But he said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it
"I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images." -Isaiah 42:8
God bless God the Alpha and the Omega
Nicholas Diaz, It seems you have not read the Old Testament: Numbers 21: 8 And the Lord said to him: Make brazen serpent, and set it up for a sign: whosoever being struck shall look on it, shall live. 9Moses therefore made a brazen serpent, and set it up for a sign: which when they that were bitten looked upon, they were healed.
Diaz, God the Father told Moses to make a "Brazen Serpent" so that the people that were bitten "shall look on it, Shall live"
Diaz, did God the Father Contradict Himself? NO!!!! These people who were bitten by the serpents was not worshipping the "Brazen Serpent" Has they look on it, so neither do Catholic worship statutes. Amen
Daiz, therefore if there is a statue of the Blessed Virgin Mary and you see a Catholic looking at it and praying they are not doing any more that they of the Old Testament who were looking on the Brazen Serpent.
The Brazen Serpent, is a typology of the Crucifixion.
what's the relevance? The snake is not dead or alive, it's a staff. Nobody in that passage is annointing or lifting the snake or moses up on high.
John 14 6 Jesus said to him (YOU), “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
I dont understand, why not pray directly to the King of Kings and Lord of Lords ? instead of praying to saints or mary. Jesus is our High priest, and He is our mediator between God and man. The veil is torn and middle wall of separation is broken, we can have direct fellowing with God through his Son Jesus !
I honestly can't see how one verse (Rev 5:8) can possibly substantiate the entire doctrine of praying via Mary, especially when a) it's Revelation, and it's a little dubious when people pin doctrine on very specific parts of the text, given the genre of literature b) it's not established who the elders are c) it's not established why they are holding the incense or what they're doing with it d) not est when in time this is meant to be (note this chapter also has all creation praising Jesus)
revelation ch 5:8 Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 9 And they sang a new song...
He took this out of context. Christ said when you pray to do so in this manner "Our Father who is in Heaven..." you know the rest. No scripture for praying to Mary or to saints. Only to the Father who is in Heaven.
I thank the Lord Jesus what it's written in His Word in Hebrews 4:16 tells us that we believers here on earth, can "approach the throne of grace with confidence, What a great God we have through the intercession of the Son who always intercedes for us.
Revelation is a prophetic and symbolic book, you would have to quote the gospels or Paul's letters.
wtf, I was reading those verses Revelation 5, 8:3-5, those verses are really vague.
While these verses are very clear:
Timothy 2:5 says, “For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.”
John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."
Acts 4:12 "Salvation exists in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.” (It's Jesus Christ.)
I'm catholic for life! When God said not to worship any idols, he meant what he said! You're suppose to pray only to Jesus...the statue that you pray to can not deliver you're prayers to Jesus because it's only a man made clay statue. I don't need a statue to deliver my prayer to God, I pray to God only through my heart.
Words of Paul "I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed."
I'M PROTESTANT (... for now). The more I look into Catholicism, the more truth I find. The more I look at the Protestantism I was raised on, the more disenchanted I am with it. The CATHOLIC Church is where all Christian churches have their roots. From the time Jesus left Earth (and put Peter in charge), there was only one church. And it stayed that way until the Protestant reformation.
I'm wondering if I'm drifting toward joining the Catholic church. Maybe so.
Timbrock1000 You will not regret your decision if you choose to be Catholic. Catholic means 'universal'. It is the Universal Christian Church. It is the Mother church.
That's not true. The [C]atholic church is not the orthodox church and much of the heterodoxy and heresies came centuries later.
Look up the difference between the church catholic and the Catholic church (Roman church).
The true orthodox church catholic is what Martin Luther was fighting for, that is for the doctrine of the first century catholics which are the doctrines of Peter and Paul and all the holy apostles.
causeimbatmaaan Luther!!!??? A Catholic priest, who denounced his priesthood and promises to God and then went with a nun who disobeyed her obedience to God of her promises.
Luther wanted to burn passages of the Bible, especially the book of James. And Luther's quotes about him seeing the devil and the devil throwing excrement at him, and then Luther throwing it back at the devil suggests otherwise. He created a schism in the true Mother Church, the Catholic faith.
Luther was originally Catholic as well. And before that, there was only the Orthodox and Catholic faith, the two Apostolic Churches with the same Bible. There was no other Bibles, truncated ones like the Protestants have now.
You don't know history.
Immortalsouls Luther did not denounce his priesthood; apparently you don't get the concept of figurative language; and THE schism in the true church happened well before luther who did not cause a schism but brought people back to the true church and away from schism which was the [C]atholic church (that's a propper name, see the capitol C), which is the Roman Church, an invention of the schism.
Before that there were neither Orthodox (remember to watch the propper nouns, those are the ones with a capitol letter at the beginning) nor Catholic but only the true orthodox (which is not propper noun, see no capitol, it's adjectival which means it describes something) church and that original true church DID NOT acknowledge the Apocryphal books as inspired canonical scripture.
YOU do not know the history of the church.
Oh you denounce Catholicism as the original Church do you? The ' Universal' Church. I don't think you know what you're talking about when Saint Peter went to Rome. The Orthodox Church is in the East. The continuation of the Mother Church split in the early Church was still from Rome. The Bible was canonized by the Catholics in the council at Trent.
So don't tell me I don't know my history. Jesus only has one true Church, & that's the Universal Catholic Church.
the problem here is the catholics definition of a saint.saints are also living people,the sanctified and justified in Christ. Acts 9:32 (Peter) "that he also came down to the saints who dwelt in Lydda." 2 Cor. 13:13 "All the saints greet you." Eph. 1:1 " To the saints who are in Ephesus, and faithful in Christ."Eph. 1:1 " To the saints who ARE in Ephesus, and faithful in Christ."2 Cor 1:1 "To the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints who are in all Achaia" Col. 1:2 "To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ who are in Colosse"
While the Roman Catholic church waits decades and even centuries to bestow sainthood on a certain individual, Peter and Paul did not. they addressed their letters to the saints who were alive
@CaliforniaCatholic While we are glad of having Tim Staples as a professor of Catholic faith, let us not call other Christians heretics. I have always admired Catholics(the ones that I know) for never spouting off hateful remarks about other religions. We are bringing the Light of God, not condemning.
I don't get it? I thought it was wrong praying to saint statues? God said not to worship any idols or images.
Was a fallen Catholic born again Pentecostal and found peace and strength back in my Catholic church. I'm proud to be Catholic.
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Sabrina Rodriguez Right on!! I am too proud to be Catholic!!
Sabrina Rodriguez Welcome home Sabrina!!!
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Without communion of saints on Earth and in Heaven there will be no Unity within the Church. We are all members of one body in unity with our lord Jesus Christ and proud to say Catholic Church has that. James 5:16 (NIV) say's" Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective. If we could ask our brethren here on earth to pray for us how much more it is powerful and effective to ask the saints, blessed, and angels in heaven to pray for us its not worshiping them but rather asking them making request to pray for us because they are closer to God they are with God. they are not dead they are alive. because in Heaven all are alive and not dead. because God is the God of the Living and not of the Dead. this is our reward, the reward of Eternal life.
Nowhere in Revelation does it say the saints know the content, or quantity of those prayers, or who they are from. Prayer is said to be a sweet smelling incense to God, this is all Rev 5 and 8 are pointing to. Here is a verse that specifically tells us to go to God and not the dead..
Isa 8:19
19 And when they say to you, "Consult the mediums and the spiritists who whisper and mutter," should not a people consult their God? Should they consult the dead on behalf of the living?
There's only One mediator between Men & God... The Lord Jesus Christ.
Not Mary
Not Michael
Not Paul
Not Peter
But Jesus...
This is a really poor argument for why we should pray to saints.
For one, this is the ONLY relevant verse in Chapter 5:
"8And when he [the Lamb] had taken the book, the four living creatures and the four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having each one a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints." (Revelation 5:8)
You will notice it is NOT the saints in Heaven that possess the incense, it is the four living creatures and 24 elders. In fact, the only ones even present in all of Chapter 5 are God, the lamb, the living creatures, the elders, and multitudes of angels. No saints are present in this particular scene at all.
And in the scene in Revelation Chapter 8 the one angel adds incense and the prayers of the saints before God's throne. No one is arguing that God receives the prayers of the saints, or that the angels aren't even the ones who somehow transport them to God. But these verses don't indicate whether or not the beings can actually hear and discern the prayers. Perhaps only God can receive them. And either way, no saints are actually there. Only their prayers are there.
And, even IF all the angels and beings there CAN hear the prayers of the saints, that would suggest using this exact same argumentation, that Christians should pray to angels then, and we know for a fact that is not true. So just because someone was there doesn't mean we should pray to them. And that's not even taking into account that this is apocolyptic writing (as opposed to a parable or a literal teaching) which dramatically affects the way that we should interpret the text.
This is a very poor example of biblical exegesis from Tim. I think before the church essentially endorses a form of necromancy, and tries to explain why from an apologetic point of view, they need to do a better job of arguing why, or just stick to saying "we're the authoritative church and we said so."
Just one question, where does the Bible command a person to pray to Mary and other
"saints"(that the Catholic church defined)?
@freeangel378 Our blessed Virgin Mother is not above God. When we (Catholics) say she is the mother of God we are saying it because she gave birth to Our Lord Jesus Christ who is God. This is why she is special and holy because of the simple fact that she said yes to God's plan and became the mother of Our Lord Jesus Christ
Giving honor to Mary is more than required of us all, as is giving honor to the Prophets, and emphasis on 'Prophets', not 'self appointed' non-scriptural based saints! We are all saints, but we are not all 'Adorned' with the worldly acclamation of being so! No church has been erected in my honor of being a saint, and there is no scriptural reference of anyone needing to pray to God via me!
But there is simply no scriptural reference where we are asked to pray to Saints and Angels! We pray to the One, true and living God, through his son Jesus Christ. Anything more or less than that is simply man-made hypothesis!
What you or I 'Think' has no bearing on the truth. We can 'think' that the best way of getting to the North Pole is by traveling East, doesn't make it right!
Read John 14:6 then get back to me! The Father gave his son power and authority to do His (The Father) will on earth, not Mary! when I read, "No one can come to the Father except through Mary" then I will believe that the is Biblical justification to pray to Mary, but there's not so praying to Mary is no more than a false practice.
Also God gives others 'Authority', for example, John the baptist had authority to baptize Jesus, not the other way around!.
Nice try though.
***** I've called Billy Graham and asked for prayer for my dying brother, for a miracle, for guidance and in grief. Pray for one another.
***** To admit such a truth, and it is a truth....., would mean for one if not more post Christian faiths, to be at best incorrect and false. It seems that many would rather perpetuate and justify an incorrect view than to accept that they're wrong. Speaking as an addict in recovery, that's a human trait if ever there was one. I feel a sense of remorse for those in such a position. However, God is truth, God cannot lie.
Catholics confess their sins to man when everyone sins none are worthy of the lords grace Mary was human just like us and had to accept jesus as her savior too
God bless you and all Orthodox Christians-both. Yes there are differences, such as the filioque, the immaculate conception of Mary, and Papal infallibility and primacy, but really these small differences compared to the tons of differences that Protestants have from us. And we can discuss these things one day and it will lead us to being one. What's great about the Orthodox Church is that it is still founded on Apostolic Succession and Tradition, which the Protestants do not have at all.
I was a fallen away Catholic who became "Born Again" and then returned to Catholic Church in large part because of Tim Staples. Read and listen to what you can get hands on by him, in particular his personal conversion story.
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Michael Ty are you 100 % absolutely correct ? And if you don't mind who do you think doesn't distort the scriptures ? Remember early Christianity the time closest to CHRIST And His Apostles Those INTERPRETATIONS Are held Within the Catholic Church it's the churches that missed almost all Christianity that stayed in the 16th 17th 18th 20th 21st Centuries and still new ones popping up that Satan does a great job in disguising and deceiving ..... all giving there spins on Christianity I go by what the disciples of the Apostles and the Apostles taught be a use that comes directly from our Lord Jesus Christ and his teachings with the correct interpretations
Michael Ty example ... who's name in the new testament did God change ?
Michael Ty do you consider the holy scriptures to be the following of Jesus Christ because if the holy scriptures are the following of Jesus Christ which they are the word of Jesus the Christ whom is God and the Catholic Church is who God in the person of Jesus Christ used to canonized and to put the Catholic Bible together which is the universal Bible which is the same exact New Testament that you read from then I'm following the word and I'm following Jesus Christ which is what every single Catholic does naturally and organically. Thomas Aquinas did deal with Aristotle but remember this that all pagans that existed dealt with all Catholics with the Catholic Church it is the Catholic Church which is the same church in Matthew th-cam.com/video/V6OwlfNwc9A/w-d-xo.htmlm18s when Jesus Christ giving Peter the keys regardless of your understanding or what you've read it is a true Universal fact that the church the holy mother Church is the Catholic Church which coincidentally I just ran into a retired minister who is calvinist today which I disagree with Calvinism but he admitted the mother Church of them all is the Catholic Church they know that when they get high and not high regards of teaching and Dad deep years of understanding you reach a point where you understand yes the Catholic church is the church that Jesus Christ started but Satan does a great job of disguising the truth and leading people astray back to Thomas yes he did deal with pagans because God use the Catholic Church to convert all pagans like The Barbarians which in today's world would have been trying to go and convert Isis but the Catholic Church went and converted The Barbarians to pagans I mean to Christians the Vikings and on and on and on and on that's all labor done by the Catholic Church the Catholic Church doing all the labor and history through all the centuries that no non denominational and all these Presbyterians and all these different churches that have popped up existed none of them existed .... only the Catholic Church was started by jews in Jerusalem in the holy land Catholicism completes Judaism as the true religion so how does the Nazarenes .... in Matthew 2 scripture says that Christ shall be called a Nazarenes but Jesus the Christ came from Nazareth ..... scripture also says the first Christians came from antioch St Ignatius of Antioch Bishop of the Catholic Church 107 AD he died being martyred already wrote letters of the, Catholic Church being the Church of Jesus Christ
@VictorLepanto here here mate,wellsaid! i cant bear this dismissalof Our Lady it really upsets me and i admit i takeit personally.she wasin such a dangerousposition until st. Joseph was visited by the angel, but she trusted God completly, and her faith made her brave and strong even though she was only young when she went through all that. she is an inspiration to me asawoman! protestants are missing out by deniying her significance and closeness to God.
Proud Catholic Christian :)
Protestants are called Protestants, because they "Protested" against the Catholic Church, which, by the way, has remained the same since the days of Jesus, when Jesus, gave the "keys to heaven" to Peter. The "Protestant" church, broke away from the Catholic, church, taking out of the bible 7 old testiment books, and 3 new testament books, Heb,Jms and Jude, which, were returned later by a Protestant council. The Original bible has never changed.
In the early church a saint was a believer in Christ , a Christian .Hence " the prayers of the Saints " you are referring to ,was just believers praying to God ?? John 14.5 No one comes unto the father ,but through me . Wouldn't prayer be better served by praying directly to God through the son Jesus Christ .? Why waste time going through other channels when we are given a direct line ...doesn't make sense to me to tell Jesus to wait because your praying to some dead Christian .
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Does it really matter? Repent and turn away from your sins and trust in Jesus. Love and forgive. Love God with everything. Do unto others as what you would have them do unto you.
Who ever told you we don't pray directly to Him?
What is happening here is this... The Catholic Church is using their private interpretation of the book of Revelation.
Jesus entrusted the fullness of divine revelation to the Church. According to you, everyone is fallible. How do you know your private interpretation is any truer than ours? How can you tell the difference between divine revelation and mere human opinion? This allowance to interpret the Scriptures however one pleases lead to the creation of thousands of separate denominations. The Church has one faith, and has clung to it. We have not *changed* with the times. We stuck with what Jesus and the Apostles originally taught, and we do so with conviction.
The New Evangelization Everyone IS fallible. Nobody is perfect, nor has the perfect wisdom and knowledge of God.
Also, why pray to the saints? According to Tim Staples, it all ends up going to God anyway.
Lastly, I looked up Revelation 5 in about five translations including the 21st Century King James and the Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition, and it does not say the elders are receiving the incense. It says they have bowls that contain the incense, so it could mean something totally different.
Being a Baptist, this is what I was raised on and I have yet to see an infallible argument against it. I may be wrong, but nobody has shown me that yet.
Garrett White I think this is an important point so let me discuss Papal Infallibility. The doctrine of Papal Infallibility does not mean the pope is always right in all his *person* teachings. Catholics are quite aware that, despite his great learning, the Pope is very much a human being and therefore liable to commit human error. One some subjects, like sports and manufacturing, his judgement is liable to be very faulty. The doctrine simply means that the Pope is divinely protected from error when, acting in his official capacity as chief shepherd of the Catholic fold, he promulgates a decision which is binding on the conscience of all Catholics throughout the world. In other words, his infallibility is limited to his specialty-- the Faith of Jesus Christ.
In order for the Pope to be infallible on a particular statement, however, four conditions must apply: 1) he must be speaking *ex cathedra* that is, "from the Chair" of Peter, or in other words, officially, as the head of the entire Church; 2) the decision must be for the whole Church; 3) it must be on a matter of faith or morals; 4) the Pope must have the intention of making a final decision on a teaching of faith or morals, so that it is to be held by all the faithful. It must be interpretive, not originative; *the Pope has no authority to originate new doctrine*. He is not the author of revelation-- only its guardian and expounder. He has no power to distort a single word of Scripture, or change one iota of divine tradition. His infallibility is limited strictly to the province of doctrinal interpretation, and it is used quite rarely. It is used in order to clarify, to "define," some point of the ancient Christian tradition. It is the infallibility of which Christ spoke when He said to Peter, the first Pope: "I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven." (*Matt. **16:19*). Certainly Christ would not have admonished His followers to "hear the church" (*Matt **18:17*) without somehow making certain that what they heard was the truth--without somehow making the teaching magisterium of His Church infallible.
For a complete understanding of the Pope's infallibility, however, one more thing should be known: His ex cathedra *decisions are not the result of his own private deliberations*. They are the result of many years--sometimes hundreds of years--of consultation with the other bishops and theologians of the Church. He is, in effect, voicing the belief of the *whole* Church. His infallibility is not his own private endowment, but rather an endowment of the entire Mystical Body of Christ. Indeed, the Pope's hands are tied with regard to the changing of Christian doctrine. No Pope has ever used his infallibility to change, add, or subtract any Christian teaching; this is because Our Lord promised to be with His Church until the end of the world. (*Matt. **28:20*). Protestant denominations, on the other hand, feel free to change their doctrines. For example, all Protestant denominations once taught that contraception was gravely sinful; but since 1930, when the Church of England's Lambeth Conference decided contraception was no longer a sin, virtually all Protestant ministers in the world have accepted this human decision and changed their teaching.
Garrett White And about the saints, here's a small argument for it.
1 Tim 2:1-2 - because Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man (1 Tim. 2:5), many Protestants deny the Catholic belief that the saints on earth and in heaven can mediate on our behalf. But before Paul's teaching about Jesus as the "one mediator," Paul urges supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people. Paul is thus appealing for mediation from others besides Christ, the one mediator. Why?
1 Tim 2:3 - because this subordinate mediation is good and acceptable to God our Savior. Because God is our Father and we are His children, God invites us to participate in Christ's role as mediator.
1 Tim. 2:5 - therefore, although Jesus Christ is the sole mediator between God and man, there are many intercessors (subordinate mediators).
Why not *magnify* and *enhance* the chances of our prayers being answered by asking the saints to intercede for us before God? These people were victorious in their journey to Salvation and are the Church Triumphant, making them closer to God. The Church is One, we are not separated by death. God is God of the living, not of the dead. We are united in life in Christ. Just as we could ask our neighbor on Earth for prayers, we may also do so of our brothers and sisters already in Heaven.
Thank You Lord almighty for revealing Your knowledge to Your servant for Your glory. God bless you Tim Staples. Amen!
Hey how can you respond to catholics praying and bowing down to idols god clearly states in exodus 20:3 to serve nor worship idols
I absolutely agree with you. God bless :)
This is just horrible misinterpretation of those Scriptures. How can you think that those prayers are addressed to those saints in heaven? You don´t need any mediator between God and you except Jesus Christ alone. I´m sure those prayers are adressed to Christ and Father or Holy Spirit, not to the dead saints. There is no proof of it for me in this video.
I'm proud to be Catholic and that's that
+darth stone if mary was immaculate why did she sing referring to Christ as her saviour?
kitty - your church teaches that mary had no sin so the duh really should be levelled at your catechism. your church teaches mary was immaculately conceived and lived a sinless life and died a virgin. which is ridiculous in the light of what scripture teaches. mary needed a saviour, mary had other children.
we have very different definitions of grace and sin. you also have a very strange way of reading scripture. the vessels were unclean until they were declared clean by God. in fact it took a lot of blood to clean them. now lets see if you really understand scripture paul writes in romans: none is righteous no not one, ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. No one does good. He wrote this while mary was still alive. Mary like all of us is a filthy sinner! Does that offend you? Good. the gospel does offend. Scripture say all of us are like one who is unclean (ALL OF US). even our righteous acts are like menstrual cloth to God. Do you know which scripture i am quoting? have you read it? Mary is not the mother of God in the sense you put it. she was the earthly mother of Jesus but Jesus was alive before Abraham. 1 john 8: " If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. " We here refers to all saints. None is without sin. My righteousness as a saint does not come from my own effort nor anyone else's. It comes from Christ ALONE. Mary is NOT a god. she is not Omnipresent which she would have to be in order to hear prayers. it is astonishing how much material Paul and the apostles produced regarding salvation, doctrine and church government. but they are totally silent about Mary. Why? because mary is not special in any way but one - she raised Jesus as an earthly mother and she even occasionally was nonplussed by him. Mary us great but she is not a coredeemer and she has never heard a single prayer. and yes she was a sinner. but her son's blood saved her as it did me. you commit gross idolatry to think otherwise.
Kitty BooBoo you said: "You are I were Saved AFTER we fell into the pit. Mary was Saved BEFORE she fell into the pit." - prove it with scripture.
"She is the Mother of the 2nd Person of the Trinity, the Godhead that was BORN on earth!"- this is heresy. Jesus was never created or born. he said "before Abraham was born I am" - this is in scripture.
"Not only can the Virgin Mary hear all our prayers in multiple languages from all across the World, all at once" - opinion. where is the proof from scripture? you are just making conjecture. To hear a billion prayers you would have to BE God - not just a member of the spirit world.
"Idolatry is when you place something else BEFORE God." this is your idea but scripture says something very different. “You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me” (Exodus 20:3-5).
"What you're really telling me is that God CHANGED His mind ... from not dwelling in Sin in the Old Testament TO now dwelling in Sin in the New Testament. What a disgusting and disgraceful teaching!" what on earth are you talking about here?
Kitty BooBoo "Either you are full of Grace OR full of Sin" actually I am full of grace and i need it because I am full of sin. you don't really understand biblical grace. but to call me a fool? how dare you? not for my sake but for your own for have you never read: Matthew 5:21-22. “Whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.”
do you deny that Jesus existed before his birth?
@Iraneus Jesus tells us he is "God of the living, not of the dead" so that should give you more reason not to involve the dead in your prayers. The crucial questions to ask are these: Did Christ give us specific instructions on how to pray and whom to pray? And the answer is YES, Jesus gave us the Lord`s Prayer. Are we given examples of righteous men and women making prayers to God? YES, there are plenty in the Bible. Do their prayers involve asking the help of saints? NO they don`t.
Saints in the bible refer to all alive people who believe in the son of God (Jesus ) ... So just one verse in revelation to justify praying to Mary is not valid !!! Awake people !!
This is a classic misinterpretation of the Biblical text! He explains it completely out-of-context! Its unbelievable! The definition of 'saints' mentioned in Revelation 5:7 or anywhere else in the Bible is not the modern Roman Catholic definition of 'saints'. Saint simply means 'a person with goodness'. Apostle Paul called his fellow Christians 'saints'!! The prayers of the saints simply means the prayers of us - the followers of Christ!! Canonisation did not exist then! THINK!
God, gave us parents in this world, and He will not take that from us in the next, for God gives us what we know and love in this life our parents, and it is One of the Ten Commandment that we shall honor Our parents. God will not leave us half Orphaned in heaven thus the reason why he gave us Mary as MOTHER FROM THE CROSS TO US, via John. Amen
John 14:6- I am the Way, the Truth, and the Light. No one comes to the Father except through me.
1 Timothy 2:5-For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
Matthew 23:9-Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
Exodus 20:4-5-You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. You shall not worship them or serve them.
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Catholicism is not biblical and contrary to God's word. Please try reading the bible yourself and see.
TrollDoll Can someone say Amen with me.
its not 'praying to mary' but 'praying through mary'
why praying through Mary. Jesus himself made it clear that. I AM THE ONLY WAY, now people are using Mary's way, wow. to those who pray through Mary just know that Jesus is the only way To God. Mary is 100% human. and praying to her or through her is like praying to the King of Bibilon(spelling plz), whom Daniel and his 3 friends refuse to. JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY
Why will u consult a doctor.because he knows what is wrong with u and what has to be done.he will give u the right medicine. But its the god who finally cures your illness.
So what is the role of mary in our prayers(illnes,worries,ambitions,thanksgiving etc)..?
She is a good Doctor.
that is not Convincing Alex. you may try to defend your way of praying, because you believe it's the right one. i might also do the same. BUT, what if it is not the right one ??. Christian believe in Trinity, God, the father, Son and the holy spirit. there is no God, the mother. if you wanna talk to God or go to God. Jesus is the only way Joshy. praying through Mary is a dead end
JESUS IS GOD
i had no faith in Mother Mary earlier.I had many doubts and questions about the Mother Mary.But later Holy Spirit gave me insight about the influence Mary in me and my family.
when i pray rosary,i can really feel presence of god(jesus) in my heart.
Iam saying the truth dear.
I do understand, but pray like we pray God of Israel or God of Abraham. but if you say mother Mary tell your son Jesus(not really sure how you guys say), is like you are praying to an ancestor. we say I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord or in the name of father, son and holy spirit. don't pray, like you praying God or Jesus via Mary. remember , she is just Human like you. remember Messiah himself said, I AM THE ONLY WAY TO GOD, about the influence of Mary in your family and you, you're hallucinating because that is the presence of the holy spirit. just remember that Mary is human like you. nothing Godly about her. let us not give praise to man like we give praise to God, because that is one of the 10 commandments. good luck Alex Joshy
Possibly one of the reasons Tobit is excluded from the protestant bible.
Your video suggests that we actually worship Mary we don't we ask her to pray for us with the line 'pray for us sinners'. It's just like you would ask someone you admire to pray for you, hope that helps
That helped. But I do not understand one thing. If you ask someone to pray for you such as your brother or sister or any other family member when they are alive. Do you ask them topray for you, when they die? Why not?
We can do, yes! It's whether those prayers get answered if they do and are miraculous they could be considered a saint (but it's a lengthy process to get it recognised that I can go into if you want me to ).
We also pray for the dead 'rest eternal grant to then oh Lord and let light perpetual shine upon them.'
Btw I'm not catholic I'm a high Anglican sort of a catholic Protestant mix !!
Hope that helps 😊
Yes, that makes sense to me, even though I prefer praying directly to God. Thanks for explaining.
@Jerzyrican808: "Each." Can't you listen. The elders in Heaven, all of them, hear & receive our prayers. Why do you insist that Mary, somehow uniquely amongst them, must be excluded from this? She is to be praised by "all generations." She said yes to Christ, & received Him before anyone else. Yet you would single her out for dismissal & diminishment. It is you who are defying & diminishing the word of God.
I think one of the fundamental core problems in the dialogue about prayers to saints and Mary is an understanding of the mystical body of Christ and the communion of saints. Non-Catholic Christians seem to not understand that the mystical body of Christ is ONE. The mystical body of Christ IS NOT two. There is not one mystical body of Christ in heaven and another on earth. Those Christians who died in the friendship of God and are now in heaven ARE STILL part of the mystical body of Christ. Those who died imperfectly purified but saved because of the redemption of Christ ( those in purgatory) and those of us here on earth bearing witness to Christ are all part of the same body. Christ (God) commanded us to pray for each other. That still includes those others who ARE STILL part of the mystical body of Christ whom are in heaven. They still pray and intercede for us because they are still obedient and ever willing to love what Jesus loves, which is our salvation. That is called the communion of saints. Protestant Christians I think do not understand the mystical body of Christ or the communion of saints and that is why they misread our friendship with the saints and angels as "worship" or replacing the mediatorship of Christ before God the Father (redemption) with humans or created angels. They're misunderstanding comes from a lack of the fullness of the truth. Unfortunately, those are the consequences of not being in the Church Jesus Christ established. They holy spirit cannot reveal to them the whole truth and they misunderstand Sacred Scripture.
Give me one scripture which says that Purgatory exists . The fact is that there's no such place . The Bible says that we are to worship God alone ,and by praying to mary and saints catholics sin . They pray to statues and light candles in front of them , isn't that idolatery my friend ?
WhatZIT TooYah Amen!
Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
When Mary heard this greeting to Her by the angel Gabriel she was troubled! Why Was Mary troubled? Because God has given Mary a new name "Full of Grace". Mary New name of Full of Grace means she is the dispenser of God's Grace to us for She is Full of Grace pressed down, shaken together and over flowing. What a wonderful / powerful Mother we have in Her. Amen
Acts 8: And Stephen, full of grace and fortitude, did great wonders and signs among the people.
Yes, Stephen was full of grace, and did great wonders and signs among the people, How MUCH MORE Mary who had her name Changed to FULL OF GRACE, by God, How much great wonders and signs she HAS DONE & CAN DO for us than Stephen, such to ask Her Son and God Jesus Christ, to do His First Miracle, (the wedding in Cana) even when He stated it is not time, He our Lord listen to Her, so why don't we. Amen
Martin Sandoval is she GOD no, only worship HIM the CREATOR MASTER don,t worship an idol (mary)
Yuhe, Virgin Mary is NOT God!!!
I Never said was God, Tell me where any Catholic has said Virgin Mary is God???
Yuhe, Was the Angel Gabriel Idolizing Mary when he uttered the Words "Hail Mary FULL of Grace"???
Tell me did Elizabeth Idolizing Virgin Mary, when she said: "WHO AM I THAT THE MOTHER OF MY LORD SHOULD COME TO ME...???
Yuhe, Tell me did John the Baptist, who leapt for JOY in his mother womb, When he heard Mary's Greeting???
All of the above is what we Catholics do for Virgin Mary. For Virgin Mary said: "ALL GENERATIONS SHALL CALL ME BLESSED"
Yuhe, do you call Mary Blessed???
+Yuhe Yuhe your creating a statement that no catholic believes no wonder why u think the way you do of us Catholics .... the Bible specifically says all generations will call mary blessed Luke 1:48 so that's what we do .... the misconceptions and attacks from so called Christians is ridiculous ... it's pretty funny also to see how many so called chriatia n s are so blind to scripture and to the true history of Christianity
Don't call Mary your good Mother. It IS idolatry. She was a human women who gave birth to the savior of the world. She was not Holy. She was sinful, just like you and I and she realized her need for a savior, just like you and I. She was not powerful, she was human.
The Roman Catholic church is filled with lies that reduce the savior Jesus Christ.
Why would we need Mary to be our intercessor for our prayers when the Bible clearly states that there is ONLY ONE mediator between God and mankind, Jesus Christ.
For two parts of the trinity are pleading before God for us, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Why would we need anyone else?
puck782 2 brotha slow down take it easy ... this is simple you just have not been revealed the fullness of Truth on this matter ... Christ could not be born from a sinful person it is not fitting he had to be born from a sinless woman therefore God conceived Mary sinless she out if any human being plays a very important role in salvation history Jesus the Christ is the center and most important in Catholicism we reduce Our Saviour to nothing he is lifted constantly and is the only mediator between God and man ... mary also still had to be redeemed I can go on about this but Mary is the first Christian and the only human being to look down at heaven .... by holding Jesus the Christ in her arms
@Jnest55
It is not "command", it is revealed and describe as Truth by the Bible and by the Church.So, when you KNOW this TRUTH, that you have a heavenly Mother and saints in heaven that are able to help you, just start to understand the FAMILY of God, living in comunion with one another. It is kind of "selffish" and arrogant to think that you don´t need anyone else in this "comunion of saints. Paul tells us to interceed for one another. Mary has a special place to interceed for us as OUR MOTHER
Thank God that I'm a Christian!!!
The worship of adoration is only given to God, the worship of veneration is offered to the angels & saints. Only God is adored, such absolute worship is offered to no one else, for he alone is creator, Lord & the Most High. Completely different from veneration, no matter how exalted...honored because of their nearness to God. The Blessed Virgin Mary, though venerated by the faithful, is nevertheless a creature. Worshiped as the greatest of the saints & the Queen of Angels but she is not adored.
Mailmen are not allowed to read the mail. Think before you make such broad interpretations. Also stop deleting comments showing the errors in your explanation.
@CaliforniaCatholic Don't make the mistake of thinking unity has to be uniformity.
The 'rapture' or resurrection of the dead followed by the living saints hasn't happened. The 24 elders in Rev. 5 aren't there yet....1 Thessalonians 4:16,17....." For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the DEAD in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
@Iraneus It is Biblical to ask someone alive to pray for you but not when that someone is already dead. Calling a dead person's spirit to help you with your prayers is spiritism which God hates.
Mary is our QUEEN and our MOTHER whether protestants like it or not!
yah go back to Ancient Babylon, they also have a Queen of Heaven or Mother of god called Semiramis, the diabolic Catholic reincarnated her by trashing the Scripture and uses Mary the mother of Jesus the man.
Where in the bible have you read that Mary is our mother, if she is your mother then praise her but don't pray through her. Jesus is the only way to God. Father, Son and the holy spirit but not mother. thus why we have trinity.
Scriptures for that please?
Jer_7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
Jer_44:18 But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.
Mat_12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
this means when you do the will of God, listen carefully, if you like God and wanna serve him then you must do what he commands, stop doing things which you are not sure of, Apostle Peter warned us of saying and doing things certainly without knowing that we are wrong, he is the tip: Jesus taught us to pray to our heavenly father, so be it, he told us to pray to him and it will be given to us, he said we must ask in his name. he never said anything about praying to Mary, and you guys I think you don't read your Bible thus why you can be easily be deceived. You can only pray to God, you can only pray to Jesus, the son of God, because he is given power of everything, even Angels worship him. Praying to a man(saints) is a sin, like most of you Catholics prays to an idol of Jesus, now the question is why talking to my photo if i am alive, why asking for forgiveness to my picture if I am alive ? your God and Lord are alive so you must pray to them but not to the idols you have. I am a die-hard Christian, and everything i am saying here, is from my heart from the love of me for you, the love that our Lord Jesus told us to have, fellow Christians read the Bible and understand, the World is full of deceptions, if you look up to your priest for everything you will die for sure, Read your Bibles guys, Read the book of Romans, Read the Book of James..... there you will learn how to be a Christians, Sexual immorality is still a sin, how can you call yourself a Christian if you don't behave and talk like one, How can you call yourself a christian if you worship idols in your church, how can you call yourself a christian if you pray to man but not to God, how can you call yourself a child of God, if you are a child of a priest, Priest are our brothers but not our fathers, the only spiritual father we have is in heaven Matthew 23:9. READ YOUR BIBLE PLEASE !!!
Rev 5:8 the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of God’s people. These were the Four beast not the Elders
Rev 5? WHERE? Rev 8 maybe??Revelation8:2: And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
3: And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
4: And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.
Misquote, ANGELS!
Nowhere throughout Revelation does the bible specifically say WHO the 24 elders are. We can speculate & assume all day that Mary or Paul or anyone else could be one but we aren't in heaven to see for ourselves so we have to go by what is written. So why take the chance of praying to a saint or anyone else except God? And to argue that the elders are the ones giving God the scrolls of prayers proves the point of not praying to the messenger but the actual person of power.
@im4u2bs How are saints dead? They're are in heaven! They are more alive than anyone of us, moreover they live with God! It's not man made its all in the bible. God bless!
How are they alive in heaven if they are awaiting the trumpet to sound so that the DEAD in Christ can rise first?
@CaliforniaCatholic - why is the catholic the true Church?
Because we're all about doing more than "just" - more than the bare minimum.
@freeangel378 Mary is the mother of the Incarnate Word--Jesus--who is God. We do not put Mary above God, but we do love her very much. Also, we do believe that the one God in three persons has always existed. Mary conceived the Jesus, the Son, by the Holy Spirit. As far as how a creature--and a virgin at that--could do that, well, that's why it's a mystery! Jesus was perfect man and is perfect God. As a perfect man, he is perfect son to his mother. Jesus will listen to his mother's concerns.
@gothicavictoria1341 Mary is made Holy?? where in the Bible can I find that? If Mary is the mother of God, then that puts her above God which contradicts the Bible coz it says God is the Almighty. How can creation give birth to God who existed before mary existed?? If you feel unworthy to talk to God directly, the Holy Spirit aka the Comforter is there to help you, that's what Jesus said/gave to us before He went to heaven. And how can u talk to a dead person's soul/spirit? that's necromancy.tsk
@gothicavictoria1341
Dear friend, thank you for your perspective on this matter. But I felt that I should also remind you that if you are in Christ, and Christ is in you, that you are acceptable to God, by virtue of Christ's grace in your life. Humility will be a spiritual fruit grown in your life, but know that If you are Christ's, God already accepts you as a son or daughter, because you have been adopted as one through Christ. Therefore you can talk to Him directly, as a child to a parent.
Protestants adhere to Martin Luther's vain philosophies before scripture. Through "faith alone" and "you can only get to the father through the son doctrines" they claim exclusive ownership of Jesus blood and sacrifice, usurping Jesus word. They claim salvation usurping Gods judgment. Hundreds of millions have been slaughtered, the poor and hungry spit upon, and land and resources pillaged under the guise, " their are not Christians so they are not worthy of Jesus sacrifice and therefore expendable." I freely admit to the depravity of convents, the priest hood, the papacy, etc. but Proteststants continue to excuse the blood of innocent souls on their hands.
EXCELLANT VIDEO !!! For some strange (rebellion & stubborness) reason, Prots will acknowledge that GOD worked miracles through OTHER Holy people, such as Moses, but they think the same God who worked miracles THROUGH MOSES is unable to work miracles THROUGH MARY.
Revelation 5 does not prove that prayers can be directed to Mary or any saints in heaven. Verse 8 only says the 24 elders were holding the golden bowls containing the prayers of the saints. For catholics to conclude based on this passage that prayers can be directed to saints in heaven is a huge mistake. The truth is all prayers of the righteous that are directed to God are contained in these bowls. Praying to saints has no support in Scripture. Finally, Mary is not one of the 24 elders why...
it's funny jesus says I am the only way to the kingdom of my father not pray to Mary and the Saints too Mary and the saints aren't in the Holy trinity ? she didint stay a virgin either
@Iraneus The elders were holding the bowls, we are told. Does the passage say that those prayers uttered by the saints were directed to those elders? No it does not, the verse is silent on that. The teaching that those elders and the rest of the saints in heaven CAN receive prayers is a huge leap which the verse does not support. Jesus himself, by his teaching did not indorse it. And by his examples, Jesus never practice it. He prays to God the Father and he teaches us to do the same.
It feels Greeeeeeat to be Roman Catholic!!! Amen.
You can also use Matthew 18:20 to defend praying with Mary.
Jesus says, "20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
So if you pray by yourself, Jesus does not say he will be with one in his name, but rather 2 or three - so to achieve this while you are praying alone, you petition the Saints, and Mother Mary to pray with you and for you.
somebody please clarify this for me, i'm a confused catholic: is God sending thunder and lightening on the earth his fury about us praying to saints?
Long live the Catholic church
@Iraneus There are numerous prayers recorded in the Bible but none of them sought the help of a saint in heaven. Jesus' priestly prayer is recorded in John 17; David's prayers are recorded in Psalms. Paul's prayers are scattered in his letters. None of them asked any saint to pray for them. They all direct their prayers to God alone. So what makes you believe that asking Mary or any saint is the right thing to do?
wow amazing.Now I feel empowered and confident about my Church.
@TheOrangeGrandMaster
found Mary,
In the Bible Mary always leads us to Christ, (The shepherds) Luk 2:16 And they came with haste, andand Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger. And in Jewish history and Tradition, the queen Mother is venerated, Jesus Mary's Son, is King, He loves her, we are sons of God and Brothers in Christ, i.e. Mary is our spiritual Mother.
YEEEEAA!!! Yes it does!!! Praise the LORD!!!
Mary, saints, purgatorians have lived good lives and earned their places in heaven through their life long suffering. Those people have gotten closer to God and pray for us read rev 8:3 read of how Mary helped secure wine for the couple. Jesus wouldnt have done it had anyone else asked. Read of jesus' s death he said john behold your mother and mother behold your son he has given her to us to be our mother but your pastor says no jesus was wrong to have given Mary to us to be our mother. When Elizabeth greeted mary God leapt in her womb. Ask yourself why will God leap in her womb??? Elizabeth said hail mary full of grace tell me someone in the bible who was told he/she was full of grace. Look at revelation 12. Catholics are like children with a strict wealthy father and mum. You guys are like children who have only a strict wealthy father. When you ask your dad for something and he does not feel like or is angry with you you can only suffer in silence but catholics on the other go to their mum to help intercede they also ask their father's loved ones and friends to help beg on their behalf. In as much as you guys will live a comfortable life. We catholics believe that God meant every word when he said behold your mother. Ask yourself Why does the devil hate mary rev 12 17. Mary is our mother honor her and pray through her if you want. The devil is smart he has convinced people not to respect someone God loved and respected. While on earth. If God gave his mother to us christians who are we not to accept as for me and my household I will obey Gods command and behold my mother all my life
Hey, I think uploader deleted my comments. Just want to check if you are still not agreeing with evidences I've given you on this issue?
Well I didnt agree. Your evidence was not good enough. If jesus did not do what he did in cana and did not tell us to behold his mother and mary did not appear in revelations with jesus then I would have believed. But I understand your point on the fact that some catholics wrongly worship mary or that catholics at times give some of the honor due to God to mary. But the truth is that real catholics know our right from our left. We know that jesus is the greatest and supreme. We know we should only honor and ask her to pray for us. I would never worship mary or else I will go to hell even mary would not want us to worship her. All we try to do is get closer to god through mary saints angels who have lived good lives on earth. The prayers through saints and mary work like charm just so you know. If god was against them I think he would have seized granting such prayers and then the catholic church would seize its practice. But the opposite is the case. Several apparitions, miracles. I am talking from experience tho. If you want to test the power of a saint or mary. Then let her prove it to you it would seem like you are in a chemistry lab. I promise you she will show you she is your motger
You can not translate 'behold his mother' to 'pray to Mary in heaven'. And 'If god was against them I think he would have seized granting such prayers' = as I shown in many bible references, Jesus DID teach us not to pray to dead as it is in form of sorcery, nor any text suggest that Mary or any saints have ability to listen to prayers of millions in heaven as they are still limited, not omniscient like God. You can get close to God without Mary. Jesus clearly taught us that no one in heaven can not reach God except thru Jesus as all the bible texts confirm. Just like Jesus taught us to confess to only to God, not to anyone else while Catholic still allows people to confess to their priest in a tiny room, calling them 'father' (which is also not allowed). You see, it is not only about Mary, there is just so many. Anyway I know that it will take time but I can only wish that you really look into original sources, question why some of Catholic teachings are against the bible, and help God along the way to guide you. Be well.
Do you know the difficulty it takes to humiliate ones self by confessing to a priest. It hurts. Its part of your penance. It adds strength to someones will to resist sin. Its different from just saying I wont do it again. Not that god doesnt forgive that way but catholics di that because of how difficult, the amount of humiliation one will receive I guess you know of st padre pio the stigmatist who was given the gift of reminding one of the sins one was hiding during confession. There is no interpretation for mary being talked about in revelation if she werent so special why does satan hate mary dont you think if the catholics were wrong and comiting idolatry he would love mary with all his heart because by catholics worshiping mary more souls will be damned but he hates mary because she draws catholics to god like rebecca did with jacob. I believe if I were comiting idolatry mary would be satans greatest weapon but the opposite is the case. He knows of what mary can do and is doing currently. So when jesus said john behold your mother he meant mary was only a mother to john.
God loves to see us honor his mother that is one of the reasons why catholics honor mary
You think mary in the supernatural is human like you has a desk and cant get in order.if you think the prayers are too many for her then it very difficult for you to believe that mary concieved our Lord Jesus christ by the power of the Holy spirit and not by Joseph ????
Mary is not a angel or God she is simply human and is in heaven Jesus is God he helped make Mary because God created all humans
@TheOrangeGrandMaster
In the Bible Mary always leads us to Christ
@talktomeaboutlife
That's why Jesus Christ established his Church and gave her authority to interpret scripture and to lead us to all truth. I am proud that it's the Church making these decisions and not some Joe Shmoe around the corner and I expect the Church to do so just like in Acts 15.
The is only one Church.
@TheDotaboy24 Mary is indeed the Mother of God, but only mother to the Second Person of the Trinity. She did not give birth to God's divinity, since God has beginning. He's always existed. And praying to Mary and the saints is more favorable to God. Humility is key here. Asking someone in heaven to help you by asking God your request because you feel too unworthy to talk to Him directly is a very humble act, which is a virtue God really enjoys. Mary is holy because GOD made her that way.
I think you dont understand praying through her and praying to her. A seed of hatred has been planted in many protestants towards catholics. This will lead to the ruin of many souls
@279cute This passage was fullfilled in Acts 2,8 and 10. Had nothing to do with a continuation of Popes.
@mpenaco YOu need someone from heaven who is with god to back up your prayer. if there is no one from heaven apart from god who will help you to pray.... then god is not listening to you, then who else do you think will help you then? The saints, angels and even blessed mother they are in heaven and continously giving praise, honour, glorifying, and worshiping to god. they are holy and their prayer are much, much powerful than the prayer of the sinners here on earth. Get it?
Yes, you can pray directly to God the Father. But having a beloved Saint or even Mary on your side presenting your prayer to God with you or on your behalf... that would be a welcome bit of assistance!
It's a lot like asking a faithful friend to pray for you to God but how much better to have a Saint among your prayer partners? Scripture tells us "the fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much" so why not enlist a Saint to help? They are wholly righteous.
We can only Pray to God, but not to saints. This video is clear. We can only Pray to the Lord and to God simple because they are one. trust me praying to saints is a sin. let's stop being stubborn and see what is right in our eyes. The Bible is clear. we pray to God,Son and the holy ghost(Trinity). if you pray to Mary then you must also pray to Moses, pray to Samuel, yes pray to Abraham. there is only God, the father, son and the holy Ghost, i never heard of God. the mother.
Mary played a role in her Son Jesus the Christ redeeming Sacrifice.... Christ performed hid first public miracle because Mary his Mother told him to do so ... Luke 1:48 says all Generations will call me blessed .... I highly doubt you follow that scripture Mary is" Full of Grace " exactly what scripture says .. only two persons name are changed in holy scripture Peter to Cephas the rock and Mary to Full of Grace .... God never changed Saul to Paul ..... that was natural ... Mary full of Grace .... Satan is somewhat more scared If that's the word I can use then her own Son because a lowly maid servant crushed him in scripture rather than being a divine power ... that's deep and absolute truth
Tim Staples is excellent. Of course, ity takes a smart man to leave the heresy of protestantism and embrace God's TRUE Church - the Catholic Church
This is an absurd interpretation to justify prayer to mary.
@christian333faith .. can you show me in the contents of the bible the word "Bible" itself? How about you show me a passage in the bible that your faith should be based in scripture or bible "alone".
The saints bring "incense" / the prayers to God, which were DIRECTED TO GOD! Not to the saints. The idea that the heavenly saints (Christians) bring prayers before God that were not directed to the Lord, but to the dead saints is nonsense and grammatical and contextual twisting of the worst kind. Please re-consider and repent of this heresy. Our religious prayer, just as our religious only, belongs to GOD, not mere glorified men.
+Amen+ : - )
@freeangel378 1st of all, God can do anything because he is the creator. Secondly, this does not put Mary above God because she is the "handmaiden" chosen by God. Thirdly, Mary is "full of grace", which means sinless, which means uncorrupt, which also means, Holy.
"And how can u talk to a dead person's soul/spirit? that's necromancy.tsk"
It's necromancy when it's done for the sake of necromancy(evil). God is all encompassing and all-powerful therefore can allow Saint' and Mary to hear us.
thank you God for making me Catholic!
From the lips of Christ when he said to peter "upon this rock i will build my church" and since his death the succession of peter's chair is unbroken. No one can claim it but the RCC. Therefore the words of Christ is also powerful when he said that even the gates of hell will not prevail. Look at the attack in the church for 2 thousand years until today, the church is unchanged and well known in all corners of the earth.
@TheDotaboy24
Mary is the Mother of Christ, God incarnate, sorry it's biblical, KJV Luk 1:43 And whence [is] this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
yes all things created by God's Word, though His Word, and by His Word. (No Mary, no Jesus).
Allah is not 'Father God,' that is blasphemous to a muslim. And Jesus to them was just a man.