How can Mary and the Saints in Heaven hear our prayers?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ม.ค. 2015
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Jimmy Akin explains how it is possible that the saints in heaven can hear the prayers of so many people at once.
Jimmy Akin was born in Texas and grew up nominally Protestant. At age 20 he experienced a profound conversion to Christ. Planning on becoming a Protestant pastor or seminary professor, Jimmy started an intensive study of the Bible, but the more he immersed himself in Scripture, the more he found it to support the Catholic faith. He entered the Church in 1992. His conversion story, “A Triumph and a Tragedy,” is published in the book Surprised By Truth.
Akin is Senior Apologist at Catholic Answers, a member on the Catholic Answers Speakers Bureau, a weekly guest on the global radio program, Catholic Answers LIVE, a contributing editor for Catholic Answers Magazine, and the author of numerous publications, including the books Mass Confusion, The Salvation Controversy, The Fathers Know Best, and Mass Revision.
His personal blog is www.jimmyakin.com. - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
It is my understanding that Mary can only answer our prayers that she intercede by taking our prayers to God. Mary does not cause our prayers to be answered. She is not God, but a creature, created by God, although highly exalted and placed above the angels.
God did not NEED to have Mary as our agent, he does not NEED the saints as intercessors, he did not NEED to be born a man, he could have come sliding down a rainbow if he wanted to. All of these things are because it was his WILL....and this you either accept in faith or you don't
I thought intercessory prayer works because we are radically united to Christ through Baptism and are in a very real way part of his body, which we call the Church. He shares so much of himself including his sonship, which is how we are actually made his brothers and sisters and thus children of God. In this sense, through Christ's power our unification with him in his body allows us to have a very real connection to each other through prayer--just as my hand goes to cover my aching skinned elbow (Idea from Ephesians). Please correct me if I have this wrong as I want to understand things better. God bless!
+36Bananapies Well said! The Church is the Bride of Christ, and the Body of Christ. If I had one and only one passage from the Bible to sum up Salvation through Christ it would be:
"...'Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.'..."
-Matthew 19
People in the comments are saying no scripture to back this up and that's exactly what I was thinking before reading any of them, my conviction is that if it's not backed up by scripture it should be avoided because you can be taken astray.
+Catholic Answers
Legitimate question here. Upon reading the passages in the Bible that would point to praying to saints, I've come to these conclusions, namely:
1. It is Biblically consistent to pray to saints.
2. It is possible that saints are aware of our prayers, through God.
3. Saints can definitely intercede on our behalf.
However, I can find no support as to the assurance that saints are capable of being aware of ALL our prayers. Although it is possible, I just can't find Biblical passages that would support this. Because if there's no assurance in the Bible that saints will indeed hear your prayer, why bother praying to saints? Please help me find an argument for this, either through reason or through the Bible. Thank you very much!
Who are Protestants to say what God can and cannot do with those who love Him - His mother, his saints and martyrs ? If Our Father would want His loving children (His saints) to hear and help their brothers and sisters who are still fighting for their souls, what is wrong with that ? Isn't that what a family is supposed to do i.e. help one another ?
Why do you say also that the saints are dead that you accuse Catholics as praying to the dead. I thought when you die in the grace of God you become united with God who is eternal life ? How could one be united with eternal life and at the same time be dead ? As Jesus said "The God of Jacob, the God of Moses and the God of Abraham is the God of the LIVING". By simple transitivity, Jesus is saying that Jacob, Moses and Abraham, who were PHYSICALLY dead that time, is ALIVE in God for God is the way, the truth and the LIFE.
John chp 17, says that Jesus prays for us. When we are gathered together in prayer, the Bible says that Jesus hears us and is with us thru the Holy Spirit.
Good one jimmy
2 Timothy 4:3 (NKJV) For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers;
Ha! How ironic, coming from a version of the Bible that is corrupted! You quote from a Bible which has been stripped of at least six canonical books. Check up on the definition of heresy, my friend.
"Authorized" by a corrupt, possibly homosexual king no less. KJV was bad enough...now we have a "new" version of the wretched translation. Wonderful. The heretical hits just keep on coming!
First Timothy 2:5 declares, "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." There is no one else that can mediate with God for us. If Jesus is the ONLY mediator, that indicates Mary and the saints cannot be mediators. They cannot mediate our prayer requests to God. Further, the Bible tells us that Jesus Christ Himself is interceding for us before the Father: "Therefore He is able to save completely those who come to God through Him, because He always lives to intercede for them" (Hebrews 7:25). With Jesus Himself interceding for us, why would we need Mary or the saints to intercede for us? Whom would God listen to more closely than His Son? Romans 8:26-27 describes the Holy Spirit interceding for us. With the 2nd and 3rd members of the Trinity already interceding for us before the Father in heaven, what possible need could there be to have Mary or the saints interceding for us?
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Great question. Because we believe in John 3:16, we have eternal life! Therefore, the people in Heaven are not "dead"...they are still a part of the ONE body of Christ. In James 5:16 we are told to pray for each other..therefore..we can and should ask those in Heaven (including Mary and the Saints) to pray for us. The only problem would be if you do not believe in eternal life...then you would be asking "dead" people to pray for you.
About "one mediator"...Jesus is our ONE mediator of saving grace. This is not the same mediating as praying for someone.
@Kerri B. nobody has gone to heaven except He who came from heaven. .what does the Bible say,??
My grandson is stuck on Mary being able to "hear all prayers sent to her" in any way shape or form.
Aren't you giving powers to Mary that belong only to God. Omniscient and Omnipresence.
No need to reduce God's abilities to what humans can understand. Just one of Mary's prayers may be multiplied (God willing) to satisfy millions of requests. Similarly, a million requests can be received in a second, but through the grace of God, be fully understood and processed. Like trying to solve a calculus problem with arithmetic, trying to pigeon-hole how God acts (and by extension, the saints through God) is a futile endeavor.
They say when you look at a picture that although you may only be able to focus on a small piece of it...say a man in it. You may be able to see his face while taking note of his clothing at the same time. But your mind sees the whole of it...while you take conscious note of two or three facts about the picture, your mind is compiling countless number of data, while at the same time controlling countless numbers of operations within your body ie breathing blinking, thinking, etc. It is in this way that the Saints can listen to all prayers at once.
If the saints can hear all prayers at the same time, then they would have to be Our Creator. If they can, then what about Jesus, can He hear us?
Jesse Jamison;
Jesus hears and answers our prayers.
canonized saints do not hear nor do they take our prayers to Jesus.
praying to any one else besides to the Father in Jesus name is IDOLATRY.
every time you say the Hail Mary you are praying in Mary's name, because you are calling on her to listen to you.
just as those who are still alive do not pray in each other's name.
Jesse Jamison;
Jesus hears and answers our prayers.
canonized saints do not hear nor do they take our prayers to Jesus.
praying to any one else besides to the Father in Jesus name is IDOLATRY.
every time you say the Hail Mary you are praying in Mary's name, because you are calling on her to listen to you.
just as those who are still alive are forbidden to pray in each other's name.
agree. a probable hindrance to understanding is why are we talking heavenly things and uses human reasoning. :-)
Another thing to consider is that in Luke 1v24-48 it tells us that the LORD is with Mary, and that the Holy Spirit (which is ALSO god....3rd person of the Holy Trinity) came upon her. It is GOD who has performed miracles through ALL his holy ones, and he can do so through her as well.
Kitty BooBoo The BIBLE says to honour your Mother. Does YOUR Jesus disobey this mandate? what qualifies you to bash and scrutinize other people? The more you scrutinize others, the more you will be scrutinized at your judgement
+Kitty BooBoo at the same time you like to deny that GOD could perform wonders THROUGH MARY, you R willing to admit that he performed miracles THROUGFH MOSES and prots often claim that God works miracles through their inisters. FURTHERMORE her intercessions shown in the story of the wedding at Cana. MARY is the one who asked her son to help the wedding partu and he did so by turning wa to wine. AND you are bashing us for obeying Luke 1v48 which tells us that all generations will call Mary blessed. The more you scrutinize others, the more you will be scrutinized
Kitty BooBoo You HAVE bashed and attacked us, accusing us of IDOLOTRY when we have done NOTHING except honour and respected Our Lady as the BIBLE tells us we should do. Stop whining, and stop scrutinizing other people and leave us alone because SLANDER and FALSE ACCUSATIONS are serious sins. I have asked you BEFORE, kindly stop commenting to me
As believers we can still lay hands on the sick today and see them get healed in Jesus name. I myself have been healed many times in Jesus' name. Holy Spirit is a person. You can get to know Him and have a close relationship with Him our comforter and teacher.
It would seem that saints in heaven would be able to handle all prayers of all petitioners simultaneously. They are not bound by time in heaven.
he issue of Catholics praying to saints is one that is full of confusion. It is the official position of the Roman Catholic Church that Catholics do not pray TO saints or Mary, but rather that Catholics can ask saints or Mary to pray FOR them. The official position of the Roman Catholic Church is that asking saints for their prayers is no different than asking someone here on earth to pray for us. However, the practice of many Catholics diverges from official Roman Catholic teaching. Many Catholics do in fact pray directly to saints and/or Mary, asking them for help - instead of asking the saints and/or Mary to intercede with God for help. Whatever the case, whether a saint or Mary is being prayed to, or asked to pray, neither practice has any biblical basis.
The Bible nowhere instructs believers in Christ to pray to anyone other than God. The Bible nowhere encourages, or even mentions, believers asking individuals in heaven for their prayers. Why, then, do many Catholics pray to Mary and/or the saints, or request their prayers? Catholics view Mary and the saints as "intercessors" before God. They believe that a saint, who is glorified in Heaven, has more "direct access" to God than we do. Therefore, if a saint delivers a prayer to God, it is more effective than us praying to God directly. This concept is blatantly unbiblical. Hebrews 4:16 tells us that we, believers here on earth, can "approach the throne of grace with confidence."
First Timothy 2:5 declares, "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." There is no one else that can mediate with God for us. If Jesus is the ONLY mediator, that indicates Mary and the saints cannot be mediators. They cannot mediate our prayer requests to God. Further, the Bible tells us that Jesus Christ Himself is interceding for us before the Father: "Therefore He is able to save completely those who come to God through Him, because He always lives to intercede for them" (Hebrews 7:25). With Jesus Himself interceding for us, why would we need Mary or the saints to intercede for us? Whom would God listen to more closely than His Son? Romans 8:26-27 describes the Holy Spirit interceding for us. With the 2nd and 3rd members of the Trinity already interceding for us before the Father in heaven, what possible need could there be to have Mary or the saints interceding for us?
Catholics argue that praying to Mary and the saints is no different than asking someone here on earth to pray for us. Let us examine that claim. (1) The Apostle Paul asks other Christians to pray for him in Ephesians 6:19. Many Scriptures describe believers praying for one another (2 Corinthians 1:11; Ephesians 1:16; Philippians 1:19; 2 Timothy 1:3). The Bible nowhere mentions anyone asking for someone in heaven to pray for him. The Bible nowhere describes anyone in heaven praying for anyone on earth. (2) The Bible gives absolutely no indication that Mary or the saints can hear our prayers. Mary and the saints are not omniscient. Even glorified in heaven, they are still finite beings with limitations. How could they possibly hear the prayers of millions of people? Whenever the Bible mentions praying to or speaking with the dead, it is in the context of sorcery, witchcraft, necromancy, and divination-activities the Bible strongly condemns (Leviticus 20:27; Deuteronomy 18:10-13). In the one instance when a "saint" is spoken to, Samuel in 1 Samuel 28:7-19, Samuel is not exactly happy to be disturbed. It is clear that praying to Mary or the saints is completely different from asking someone here on earth to pray for us. One has a strong biblical basis; the other has no biblical basis whatsoever.
God does not answer prayers based on who is praying. God answers prayers based on whether they are asked according to His will (1 John 5:14-15). There is absolutely no basis or need to pray to anyone other than God alone. There is no basis for asking those who are in heaven to pray for us. Only God can hear our prayers. Only God can answer our prayers. No one in heaven has any greater access to God's throne than we do through prayer (Hebrews 4:16).
"The Bible nowhere encourages, or even mentions, believers asking individuals in heaven for their prayers."
What about asking Christ for His prayers? Christ is an individual in Heaven. Are not all Christians members of the Body of Christ? Are we not called to follow Him in all things "...on Earth as it is in Heaven..."?
yeah christ but praying to the saints nah
Before the Cross of Christ, in Heaven there was God and the angels, period. What changed?
Read Ephesians 4 about Christ's triumphal entry into Heaven after His Cross "...When He ascended on high He led a host of captives, and He gave gifts to men..."
And also read Psalm 68, which Ephesians 4 is quoting from
"They have seen Your procession, O God,
The procession of my God, my King, into the sanctuary.
The singers went on, the musicians after them,
In the midst of the maidens beating tambourines.
Bless God in the congregations,
Even the Lord, you who are of the fountain of Israel.
...The God of Israel Himself gives strength and power to the people.
Blessed be God!"
Matthew 8;
...Jesus said to him, “I will come and heal him.” 8 But the centurion said, “Lord, I am not worthy for You to come under my roof, but just say the word, and my servant will be healed. 9 For I also am a man under authority, with soldiers under me; and I say to this one, ‘Go!’ and he goes, and to another, ‘Come!’ and he comes, and to my slave, ‘Do this!’ and he does it.” Now when Jesus heard this, He marveled and said to those who were following, “Truly I say to you, I have not found such great faith with anyone in Israel..."
idk where your trying to get at
what is your point ? i pray to the most high not these dead saints who do nothing , who have no power , nothing
Our brains processes are required for us to say a prayer, and in relation to an instant, it takes a lot of time to think, but in heaven, the saints ear the prayers without the necessity to use their brain. It goes right to their spiritual mind. So it takes an infinitesimal amount of time compared to us to do things. So, even though it's true that saints have increased capacity because they are united with God, they also have increased capacity because they are not limited in time by their physical bodies. So, even though they are still limited as a creature, they can ear multiple people at once even without special powers because we're so slow compared to them.
Protestants have raised the question, in their objections to our prayers to Mary for her prayerful intercession, whether she can hear all of our prayers at once. A mathematician would argue that in the present span of time there isn't one person on earth who does something completely at the exact same time. There actually is an astronomical, but finite length of time that exists between two seconds. This has actually been produced in the form of an equation by the power of x. But for one to actually receive any information that is conveyed within these indefinite milliseconds of time in finite existence, she would have to be beside real time. Mary exists there.
How are Mary and the saints in heaven. If it’s a bodily resurrection at the end of time. How are they even in the hierarchy. Unless you want to argue jesus was a spiritual resurrection
Because they have special powers
Oh also seeking friend., When Jesus our Messiah was crucified. The scripture at that time was the Old Testament that Jesus did speak from that is what the apostles all Jews gave to Jesus Church. If you read in New Testament it says to hold fast to oral tradition . forget other. Back then when Jesus gave his commands on confession Eucharist or healing to apostles it was not written down. No were in scripture does it say only live by scripture. As a Baptist I found out years later when I called the Church were I had been baptist ed at 12 that they do not believe in original sin which is in Gen. I didn't know that nor is Baptist ism anything but a symbol. What does Jesus say. He says when asked how to be born a gain Jesus says by water and spirit. Baptism in Catholic faith does something. Well my friend, have a good day, Take Care
Jesus says you must be born again to be saved, He also says that you must be born of the water and the spirit to be saved. He does not say that you need baptism to be saved, Those who say you need baptism make a false assumption that "born of the water" = baptism.
Because Mother Mary can intercede to our prayers we are the remnant of her seeds.Rev.12
[1] And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
[2] And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.[5] And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.[17] And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Read in context. The 12 stars refer to the 12 tribes of Israel and the woman is Israel. Genesis 37 9-11
If Revelation 12:2 is referring to Mary then why is is she crying due to bearing a child? Painful child bearing is punishment to women for Eve sinning. That would mean Mary had original sin and personal sin.
regeneration, Protestantism over.
What if they aren’t actually in heaven? Isn’t that presumption or no?
Excellent knowledge keep defending faith.
Huge stretch here. Mary is omniscient? The prayers of a righteous man refers to those who are ALIVE. Praying to "people" who have died is practicing Necromancy, which is forbidden by Yahweh. Read the Bible...it's great for the soul😉
God wouldn’t hear Mary’s prayer in 3000 ad in 4000 ad if god is infinite and you just said he is the beginning and end from eternity past. So he would have heard Mary’s prayers before she ever reported them. He heard them before they were made.
We must remember, that God in His Divinity Can do all things and Can hear every ones prayer at once, again, because He is GOD!!!
And God being God, can depart Graces to those in Heaven to be able to hear everyones prayers at the same time. Or do you protestants, think that God does not have the POWER to depart such graces to mere Human Creatures of His???
Mylene T, Tell me is it wrong to look upon a brazen serpent in order to be be healed???
Numbers 21: 8 And the Lord said to him: Make brazen serpent, and set it up for a sign: whosoever being struck shall look on it, shall live. 9Moses therefore made a brazen serpent, and set it up for a sign: which when they that were bitten looked upon, they were healed.
Mylene T. it was God who told Moses to make a brazen Serpent in order that people may look upon it and be healed.... now where these Jewish people worshiping the brazen serpent??? NO!!! THEY WERE NOT WORSHIPING THE BRAZEN SERPENT THEY WERE JUST LOOKING UPON IT, IT IS THE SAME WITH CATHOLICS WE DO NOT WORSHIP THESE STATUES we do what God told the Jews to do.
Mylene T. If you find fault with Catholics for doing such then you find fault with God for making the Jewish people to look upon the Brazen Serpent.
Mylene T. the Brazen Serpent is a typology of Jesus Christ on the Cross, that we Catholics look upon every day. Amen
+Martin Sandoval agreed that God commanded moses to make a snake image so that the Jewish people could look to it and be healed. so in this case, God was going to work through the snake image. so which verse in the bible says that God commanded the church to make an image of mary, christ or any saint and that he was going to work through these images? also the idea of praying through mary kinda bugs me. why go through mary when you can talk to God directly?
+Martin Sandoval agreed that God commanded moses to make a snake image so that the Jewish people could look to it and be healed. so in this case, God was going to work through the snake image. so which verse in the bible says that God commanded the church to make an image of mary, christ or any saint and that he was going to work through these images? also the idea of praying through mary kinda bugs me. why go through mary when you can talk to God directly?
+Martin Sandoval agreed that God commanded moses to make a snake image so that the Jewish people could look to it and be healed. so in this case, God was going to work through the snake image. so which verse in the bible says that God commanded the church to make an image of mary, christ or any saint and that he was going to work through these images? also the idea of praying through mary kinda bugs me. why go through mary when you can talk to God directly?
So if god is outside of time. If god is eternal and outside of time and space He would never traverse the amount of time to arrive to Mary’s birth and time of life to give birth to god as Jesus in the flesh
protestians only reads bible but l did not see any good n helping work from them .Catholic reads bible less but do very good helping work to mankind.
what is ur base in the bible that describe about saints hearing of our prayers. Is that possible for them do you thing they know me like God? Jesus son of God?
They have an App fo' that.
DUH
Jesus has a special relationship with his Mother as all sons do, and so in the bible it says that we shall call her blessed for all generations
The Catholics also burned Joan of arc and now recognizes her as a saint. Just read the bible with an open heart and self reflect and ask God to open your eyes and show you the truth. Religion and man only brings confusion
Come on Catholics, this was all OK when you were not allowed to read the Bible. Now you can read it in your own languages, and you still want to pray though someone else. I pray for you.
So Protestants say Saints can't hear us because they are dead right? then why do they have their kids sending a SAINT (St. Nick/Santa)letters requesting gifts???
God jesus yeshua christ said Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
So the disciples of Christ cant save you or "saints" as you call them which is false cause jesus said any one who follows his laws and follows him is a saint.
Also the pope has many times gone against the bible calling God not powerful enough
I pray this helped you and may more for Jesus yeshua christ is the 1 way to heaven not mary or the apostles.
God bless
Sending letters to santa clause does not support those who have passed on before us hearing our prayers. The example you used of sending letters to Santa Clause is ridiculous, it doesn't support those who have passed on having the ability of hearing our prayers.
This thing about sending letters to Santa clause was started many years ago by people who had no knowledge of the bible.
Deuteronomy 18:11 tells us that anyone who “consults with the dead” is “detestable to the Lord.”
732Godlover
The BIBLE tells us that believers and Holy ones are not among the dead: ● LUKE 23 v 39-43...Jesus told the good thief "today you will be with me in paradise"
● REV 19 v 14...when Jesus returns he will be accompanied by his heavenly armies of saints
● 2 COR 5 v 8...Paul tells us that to be absent with the body is to be with the Lord
● JOHN 11 v 25-26...Jesus said I am the ressurrection and the life, he
who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives,
believing in me will never die.
Luke 1619-30 The story of the rich man and Lazarus show The Rich man,
Lazarus and Abraham, all concious and interacting with each other even
though they have physically died.
Rev 6:10 The souls of the martyrs are before the throne of God, crying
out for justice. (they are conscious and actively petitioning God)
Heb 12:1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of
witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so
easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out
for us,
➨ intercession of the saints:
REV 5 v 8...And when he had opened the book, the four living creatureS and
the four and twenty ancients fell down before the lamb, having every one
of them harps and golden bowls full of incense and the prayerssaints of
the saints
The caller in this video says that "when Mary went to heaven...." I have trouble with this. Where in any scripture, canonized or not, does it say that Mary went to Heaven? Please show me where this says so, so I can learn more about God and his way, and the life, and death of people. My comments about this is not to diminish Mary's existence, nor that she is the mother of Jesus. I am grateful for Mary's position, being worthy to be the mother of our Savior, and I pray that she be rewarded for her part, and for her love of and for Jesus.
+Michael Best do you think Jesus mother went to hell? even as a protestant I would have no problem with saying Mary went to heaven,,,I don't see any biblical support for Mary being taken up like Enoch but there are texts outside the bible that suggest she was taken up,,,I have trouble believing things I don't see in the bible but just because we dont have it in the bible doesnt mean its not true,,,I had never heard of the dideche ie the teaching of the 12 apostles,,,I dont know why this text was not included in the canon,,,,its a very old document and its clearly accepted as authoritative by eastern churches,,,so just because we don't know of it as protestants doesn't mean its not true,,,we have been cut off from alot of the ancient traditions since the reformation
+Michael Best read the treatise on the blessed virgin by st.louis de montfort and Catholic for a Reason: Scripture and the Mystery of the Family of God By Scott Hahn
+8ElionAdvancing8 + a good resource for this would be Cardinal Newman's work on Mary titled: Mary The Virgin Mary in the Life and Writings of John Henry Newman. This is a very solid work on the history of the marian doctrines and devotions with many references from church fathers and other historical sources. Great work
+Michael Best Read 'Behold Your Mother' by Tim Staples. That book will clear up any questions about Mary. Truly.
Kerry Fulford you are not the infallible interpreter of scripture
Mary was a sinner and realised her need for a Saviour. Mary said "my spirit has begun to rejoice in God my Saviour" (Luke 1:47).
732Godlover "Hail Mary, full of grace"
+Swedish Crusader Hi, if you are saying something which displeases God, would you not want to humbly find out if what you are saying is good or not? I provided Scripture for you which clearly proves that Mary is a sinner. Please ask Jesus to reveal to you whether you should be saying things like that.
732Godlover If you do some research you will see that Mary isnt a sinner, that she is the new Covenant of the Ark that all citizens of Heaven hail.
She is also Jesus' first diciple and she is the Queen of Heaven
+Swedish Crusader Why did Mary say she was a sinner in Luke 1:47? No where in the Bible does it say she was without sin. Only Jesus Christ was without sin because He is God incarnate, only someone sinless could pay for our sin, Jesus is the only one who has came into this world without sin. He is not of this world, He is the only one who has came into this world from Heaven, born of a virgin.
Mary was saved from having a corrupted sinful nature; she was spared the curse of Adam and Eve through Christ's Passion on the cross working backwards in time. She never sinned because He saved her.
Mary does not answer prayers, she carries them to her son who answers them, she is a mediator, advocate, she brings us closer to Christ who the face of God, the 3rd person of the trinity
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1 Timothy 2:5 says that Jesus is the ONLY mediator between man and God.
Y'all are soooooo crazy!!!
We know God hears our prayers. So, even as I can pray to God for your welfare, so too can the saints in heaven, who are closer to God and in his good graces and whose prayers are more powerful than ours here on Earth. How can they hear us? Because we are all part of the Church, whether living or in heaven, and because God can do anything. Nuff said.
John chp 17 says that Jesus prays for us.
*_“(And mention) when the angels said, ‘O Mary, indeed God gives you the good news of a word from Him, whose name will be the Christ, Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and in the Hereafter, and of those who are near to God.’ ‘He will speak to the people in the cradle, and in old age, and he will be of the righteous.’ She said, ‘My Lord, how can I have a son when no man has touched me.’ He said, ‘So (it will be,) for God creates what He wants._*
*_When He decides something, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is. And He will teach him the Book and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel. And (will make him) a messenger to the Children of Israel (saying), ‘Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I make for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, then breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by the permission of God. And I heal the blind and the leper, and I bring the dead to life by the permission of God. And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses._*
*_Surely, there is a sign for you in that, if you are believers. And (I have come) confirming the Torah that was (revealed) before me, and to allow you some of what was forbidden to you. And I have come to you with a proof from your Lord, so fear God and obey me. Indeed, God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. This is the straight path.”_* - Holy Quran sura 3 ayat 45-51.
Why do Catholics insist on making Mary and the saints an intercessor to the Father on our behalf? You keep pushing the passage of 1 Timothy 2:5 to the side to do this. Mary is not devine. She is/was as mortal as the rest of us.
They cannot.
God does not share any of his attributes (omnipresence) with anyone. Oh how quick you all are to set aside the gospel for your own.
some serious theological gymnastics happening here...
Mary can't hear your prayers. If she could she'd have the same power as God, since that would be equal to you hearing over 5,000 different radio stations every minute and write down what each are saying for that 1 minute to relay that to her son. So to say that she can hear more than 1 prayer a minute is blasphemy to her and God.
Mary intercedes! That should be said first because no one knows if she answers prayers! Mary as the first temple of God the Church also intercedes.
Where are the scriptures? Everyone has an explanation and no bible scripture to support it .
No Scripture to support any of this.
Where in the Bible does it say pray to Mary? Don't you guys read the Bible? How about Joseph, I think I'd prefer to pray to Joseph. What about Jesus's grandmother, she is a woman too, may I pray to her? Please, read your Bible.
Mary has the Beatific Vision. This means that she knows what God knows except what God knows of Himself.
God said, Mary can hear people’s prayers. He said she doesn’t like it cause it’s distracting. The same as if you or I were in heaven and people were constantly asking us to ask God something but because she’s famous you catholic’s are constantly asking her for intercession. That’s not her job.
She’s not like God, she’s a singular person. So it’s a lot of noise. God isn’t like us, even if we were in heaven. He can hear everyone’s prayers all at the same time even if there were a million prayers at once. Mary doesn’t have that ability so she would prefer you pray the Father or His Son. And if the whole world were to pray at once God could hear all of them at the same time and it wouldn’t take him years or days, even minutes or even seconds to process them all. His mental capacity is infinite and limitless, not like ours.
You just making this stuff up without any reference from the Bible. Praying to Mary instead of the God is a sin and abomination to God, for all Christians who accepted Christ have direct way to reach our Creator, abandoning that and trying to do through crooked ways (or ways not told in Bible) or in this case via mere human Mary, is same as believing in other gods.
Along with many other things Catholic's did, such as exalting man-made object to be sacred (rosary), believing and reading changed Bible (another Gospel), not believing that Christ blood is ENOUGH for our purification and salvation.
No wonder you believe in purgatory, because as any rejecting the true Gospel and God religions you leading people to hell, so when catholic believers meet the fire after they die they will think it just purification, instead of hell.
The bible does not instruct us to pray to Mary.
Mary and the so called saints cannot hear our prayers. only the holy Spirit who sends our prayers to the Father.
No Apostle prayed to Mary. No Apostle taught Christians could pray to Mary. Christ taught His disciples to pray directly to the Father.
Mary cannot hear our prayers because that would make her GOd and that's blasphemy. WE ARE NOT DIVINE AND WE ARE NOT GOD. PLs repent of this awful sin because this is idolatry and goes against the commandments of God. Mary was a sinner and we are all redeemed in Christ yes but hearing prayers and all of that we do not have this ability because we are human beings. Btw unless you are born again you will never see the Kingdom of heaven! Accept Jesus as your saviour today! God bless u guys!
They're struggling to justify it because its simply not biblical but man made
Because Mary is god to them. The church gave her supernatural powers since she was nailed on the cross and was assumed into heaven. The church said it, you "must" believe it or you are outta here.
Such ridiculous things. No apostles prayed to Mary or petitioned her for anything. Mary and saints are enjoying heaven...not praying for you. Jesus is waiting for you to pray to God the Father.
If you extrapolate on what it would mean for God to be outside of time, you end up with something very bizarre and illogical. Christians shouldn't resort to this dogma give than there's no compelling reason to believe it.
WLC is correct about this.
Unrealistic....that logic applies to any religion, fairies or whatever you want to make up......magic! everything is possible with magic !!!!