Be careful when watching season 3 episode 4 you might want to skip it there is a huge spoiler for house of the dragon it’s talked about in that episode
If you consider how little acting experience had Jack Gleeson when he was portraying Joffrey it makes it more impressive how amazing he was. In every interview his cast members describe him as the sweetest, kindest person.
@@tonismith3707 I can think of many mega stars who act for decades and have blockbusters under their belts and yet can't act. Young Jack was 19 at the time, at that age a 10 year limited acting experience is nothing.
@Steve Kuk Its more the way he makes you hate him. I personally love villains. Ramsey is one of my favorite characters. But, I can't stand Joffrey. That's how good of a job he did.
Jon Snow didn't miss, he couldn't do it. On a deeper level, he was listening to the voice of his father "the man who passes the sentence must swing the sword". He didn't think the girl was guilty, so he couldn't execute her.
“The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword. If you would take a man's life, you owe it to him to look into his eyes and hear his final words. And if you cannot bear to do that, then perhaps the man does not deserve to die.”
The fact Tyrion says "well done Clegane" is a small thing but The Hound is caught unawares as he's that used to being called "dog" or "the hound". You can tell he appreciates it.
The Hound is the textbook example of the "jerk with a heart of gold" trope. He's perpetually angry, he's rude to everyone, but hurt someone he cares about and the hell he sends you to will seem like heaven after what he does to you.
I love how Tywin knows Arya is hiding her real identity but since he likes her, he deliberately avoids prying too much because he doesn't want to feel obligated to imprison her or something because he found out she's part of some important Northern House and it would prove strategically advantageous. Of course, since Tywin operates on "real world rules" instead of "fantasy story rules" he never in a million years would suspect this girl is Arya Stark because it makes no logical sense for her to be there in Harrenhall, so far a way from King's Landing. He's assuming she's the daughter of some minor Northern noble House and that allowing her to keep pretending to be a peasant girl in order to survive the war is harmless to the interests of House Lannister. And he likes her so much that he even gave her an honest answer when she asked him about his father, which is one of the rare moments where Tywin lowers his guard and shows a somewhat vulnerable side, which he hasn't even shown to his children in the show, though I assume he has shown it over the years since he told Arya that she reminded him of his daughter, implying that's part of the reason he likes her. I would've happily watched a whole episode of Arya serving Tywin wine while they talk about the war and their families.
Tywin is one of the best character I've ever seen on any of the series and movie. I'm honestly not a fan of tywin during first time watch. But after Seeing hotD i decide to rewatch got. And dang tywin is a legend.
@@WilsonRows yep. What a presence Charles dance hold . He dwarfs every other actor in the scene he is in. Tywin and arya conversations are treat to watch.
25:40 This is why I love game of thrones. From his perspective, she has no allies, wealth, or army. She is asking him to give up ships he uses to make his money, to invest in someone that has close to nothing. We know Daenerys so we are rooting for her, but his answer is exactly the answer you would expect.
One dude grabbed other dude and gutted him like a pig, we could clearly see intestines falling out... Reactor's reaction: Awww, that's so sweet of him! Welcome to the unique world of GOT.
There's also great parallels with the Jon, Theon, and Robb storylines - Jon and Robb both being "tempted" by women, and Jon and Theon demonstrating the difference between real strength (Jon's code won't let him execute Ygritte) and cowardice (Theon enacting false "strength" by executing Ser Rodrik). Btw, the actors who play Jon and Ygritte are now married with a son.
And it was very special for Jon as he married his "wildling" in real life! He'd have never met her if not for GoT! 🤗 I saw a video of him singing "Wild Thing" to her but he changed it to "Wildling". It was so cute. 😊❤
The scene with Theon not being able to behead Ser Rodrik cleanly is in part because he was using the wrong sword, but more importantly, it was done this way to show that Theon is weak and is not a leader. You can see it in other scenes as well, Theon basically seems to have taken Winterfell from the Starks just so he could say that he did it, that he was finally better than them, but these were people he'd grown up with, so he didn't want to hurt anyone. He's constantly getting talked into it by other members of the Ironborn because he's essentially as insubstantial as a leaf, and will blow in the direction of the person with the strongest breath.
There's also a contrast between Theon killing Ser Rodrick and botching the execution, and Jon Snow refusing to behead an innocent--from Jon's moral code--girl.
The 'my dreams come true' line still hits my ears differently than how you are framing it. I think their interpretation of how Dany looked in that scene was great.
@@thurnishaley6649 Well Dany is a dreamer, it is very obvious in the books, not so much in the show. But she has a lot of vision. I think here she way definitely refering to dragon dreams
@@ninazupancic7677 yes its unfortunate they cut that stuff from the show a good bit. I can see the merchants side of it as well Hoover, given even among Targaryens this was a rare thing. It's something most people will view as a fabrication or delusion, especially when they are close to extinct.
@@atlasisshrugging did you even watch? let alone read the books. if you think dany is not going to do things in books, she did (and some other things she failed to do), in show, you clearly haven't read them . foreshadowing is much more clear in books, than is show. and that was the real problem with show. also my reference was to correct aegon , viserys had a dream about.
Theon is definitely conflicted, but he not only wants to do well by his father for acceptance, but his sister's taunting probably pushed him into wanting to outdo her.
14:44 yeah, and on top of that, ser rodrik is the one who taught theon to fight with a sword. It becomes even more tragic when you consider that his death means the end of house cassel (he and jory, the guy who got killed by Jaime in season 1 when the lannisters attacked ned were the last male members)
Alfie Allen's acting after he decapitated Rodrick is incredible. You can totally see the guy who pushed himself too far and he is torn between "What have I done ?" and "Did I do it right ?"
"If you would sentence a man to death, you owe it to him to look into his eyes and hear his final words. And if you can't bear to do that. Then perhaps the man doesn't deserve to die." I love how Ned's words come into reality here with Jon and Ygritte.
sir rodrick's death was so brutal i was TRAUMATIZED dude 😭😭😭😭😭 it's been years since, but I still cannot bring myself to watch it for the second time, even the sounds are horrifying and the bran's and rickon's screams oh nooooooooooooo
Dagmer and Theon's plan that you didn't quite get last episode was to send the bulk of their forces to attack Torrhen's Square, causing the Starks to send their men there to help and leave Winterfell unguarded for Theon's small force to take over.
@@that.ll_do_pig because they didn't get it. Lol. Which was acknowledged in the first comment. We're robbed of the visual reaction because they're gonna read THIS comment
@@jimmymcgill2772 Are you high or something ? They will not see the episode again lol . The plan is never mentioned again in the future so when exactly did you wanted to see their reaction ?
@@jimmymcgill2772 What this line of thinking never acknowledges is that when the viewer is confused about something the show had no intention of them being confused about, we miss out on reactions because they're just confused. It's not an anthropological study. Explaining things that were not meant to be missed makes future reactions better not worse.
Theon is such a sad character. He didn’t feel like he belonged anywhere. He was a well treated hostage at Winterfell, but a hostage nonetheless. He wasn’t raised in the ways of the Iron Islands so their ways were foreign to him. Robb might have been the only one to think of and treat him like a brother. I don’t recall Robb treating Theon different to Jon. It’s just sad how alone theon must feel, even though we as viewers know he wasn’t alone as long as he stayed loyal to Robb
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Theon Greyjoy is a really fascinating character both in the show and the books. He obviously makes some bad decisions, but if you put yourself in his place you can kind of understand why he does so to an extent -- he was really put into a difficult situation given his family and life circumstances and that conflict makes him compelling. And I honestly think Alfie Allen's performance as Theon is one of the best and most underappreciated in the whole series.
Yeah but his internal thoughts in his POV in the books just make him worse. Like, his very first POV (the only one I've read so far) shows that the answer to Bran's "Did you hate us the whole time?" is actually "Yes." And the way he treats that poor girl... ick.
@@arielsteinsaltz1956 To be fair, how could he not hate them the whole time? He was basically taken hostage and kept away from his home by the people who killed his brothers. If someone killed your family members and then took you away from your home, I think you would hate them too. Even if they were nice to you.
@@CaptainPikeachu They also would seem to constantly remind him he's not one of them. He would literally be wanting to help and they'd peck him down a peg because he isn't a Stark
@@ThatsOk83also, if you read from theon's pov you find that life with the Starks wasn't amazing at all. Catelyn never liked him, he didn't get along with Jon. Was close with rob but the other kids are to young. Sansa is like 11 (and isn't nice to theon or Jon at all). Rob is 13 and theon is 19. He was scared shitless of ned who would sometimes be nice and at other times be cold and distant probably because he reminded himself of having to kill theon if balon rebelled and all the servants treated him worse then Jon because everyone in the seven kingdoms despises the iron born.
I maintain that Theon’s most critical mistake was his decision to be prince of winterfell and not just capture the stark boys and retreat back to the iron islands.
Discussion on favorite houses was fun. Personally my favorite is the Tyrells because of Margaery Tyrell (Renly's wife) and another cool Tyrell character you'll meet later :) 🏵
I've seen this series at least a dozen times. Watching reactions makes me want to watch it again. It is awesome watching peoples reactions to the amazing characters' story arcs.
Just wanted to pop in to say how much I enjoy and look forward to your reactions! I adore your banter, and just how deeply you are invested. Also your predictions and guesses are really fun. Especially when they accidentally correctly predict stuff that will happen WAY later. Just those “boy if you only knew” moments 😂
The wildling girl is actually pretty ingenious in her tactics -- she is aware that Jon has a moral problem with killing a fighter who has surrendered, and even more so that it is a young woman. In his world, the women don't fight. So, she is keeping him in a state of confusion so that he cannot resolve his moral dilemma by killing her. As long as she keeps talking and introducing uncertainty and potential benefits for him (shelter, warmth, sex, being accepted by Mance Rayder), she is keeping him mentally and emotionally off-balance. It's a survival tactic. Plus, it's fun messing with him.
The man that Theon executed in the beginning is Rodrik Cassel, the Winterfell master-at-arms. He trained all of the Stark children. He even trained Jon Snow and Theon himself. If he's the reason Jon Snow is so good with a blade you should expect him to go out like a badass.
The Hound is one of fan favorites for a reason. Deep down there is good in him and it shows. He's rude, perpetually angry and excessively violent, but Gods help you if you mess with someone he cares about...
the guy theon cut his head off it was very sad because in the book we had ALOT more time with him as we seen him travel with cat so we get to know him more
Theon used Torren square to draw out most of the remaining troops guarding Winterfell as a distraction, with the thinking that it will be a win his father and sister would respect.
Every time I hear Bran being hysterical I cry. It's so hard to handle hearing a child being so desperate but not being able to do anything about it. I felt the same way about Sansa when Ned got killed.
Execution by beheading using a normal sword is always going to be a 2-3 swing affair, unless the steel is very strong, very heavy, and/or very sharp. That's why Ned Stark used Ice, the Valerian Steel Greatsword (Valerian Steel is very strong and keeps an edge) and why real life executioners used heavy axes.
@@mellertid as far as executions go, I'd not complain about the guillotine. It stacks up well against "modern" methods in terms, on the "client" side. And if you're there to watch someone die, its at least not sugar coating the affair. And you can use a shorter casket, if you're cheap.
I bet the Hound or young Robert Baratheon could’ve taken Rodrik’s head off with one swing with a relatively sharp blade… not saying your argument isn’t accurate but the strength of the one wielding the sword factors in. This scene was to ensure everybody knew Theon was not to be respected, he looks weak even when he takes the “strong” action.
@mate There is a huge difference between the typical medieval sword and swords of today. This is something that has been spoken of many times by historians and weaponsmiths and weapons experts, and even described by original historical accounts. The average sword made today is much sharper and more capable than the average medieval era sword.
God that scene with Theon and Ser Rodrik gets to me every time. The music, the children crying and screaming for him to stop in the background, Theon’s face…Alfie Allen’s acting in GoT is one of my favorites in any show.
"I dreamt the sea came to Winterfell. It came over the walls and flooded the castle. There were dead people floating in the courtyard. Ser Roderick was one of them....."
There's a lot of really interesting minor houses too that we only get snippets of in the series.. But they're also appearing in HoTD, like House Blackwood and House Manderly
Theon's situation is an extreme case of culture clash where Theon doesn't know how his own people work. He's been raised in the honour-culture of the Starks, in the chivalric and knightly codes of conduct related to the Seven Kingdoms where duty and blood-based authority is everything. But he's a native of the Iron Islands (basically the pirate republic of Nassau) who stand outside the cultural sphere of Westeros, with a people who only value strength and only follow you for as long as you prove yourself ruthless and capable. We see Theon trying to apply the Northern standards he was raised with unto his Iron Islanders but they of course, reject it and demand of him to act in accordance with their ways "paying the iron price". If he does not, he's one wrong word away from being mutinied against and then all support in his homeland is gone as his base of supporters who do follow him solely based on him being their prince is very small. Theon being brought up in the customs of the North was Ned's secret plan all along, that he might one day return to the Iron Islands and help integrate them into the conduct of the Seven Kingdoms as to put an end to their reaving and marauding traditions.
I enjoy your reactions so much I keep forgetting to hit the "like" button! Pudgey's tears...OMG I'm dead. This is brutal but I promise you it's amazing storytelling. Don't give up!
Whoever said in one of your previous GoT Videos that you’re going too slow with uploading your reactions are completely off their fkn rocker. I mean aside from weekends which is understandable, your GoT reactions are going up every 2nd or 3rd day from the previous one which for someone like me that has seen numerous GoT reactions, you guys are the fastest to do it so please pay people like that no mind and upload when you can but only proviso would be just be consistent. 6:22 From memory, his name is pronounced as Jacken Hah’garr - Much love as always to you both from West Sydney!
Agreed. It’s nice to have a new upload every 3-4 days. A lot of other reactors upload once a week at best, and often much longer. It takes time to edit and upload these in addition, so I appreciate this channel very much. It’s nice in 2022 to find someone who has t seen this show yet, is seemingly truly interested in it, and upload frequently.
As someone who probably watched this 10 years ago, it's difficult to hold my tongue, but it's also refreshing to watch this again after having not seen it for so long
it is not because the sword is not valyrian steel, it is because Theon is weak and has no conviction in his actions and thus he cant cut through cleanly and he ends up hacking, it reflects his character as a man
It is also because ceremonial sword for executions and fighting longsword are not the same. Thinking he would cut head clean with longsword with this stance and position of the executed? Impossible
Well, it's also not the proper sword for beheadings. One would normally use a heavier and sharper sword than this. In real life beheadings often took multiple strikes unless using a particularly heavy and sharp executioners armament, unlike how tv shows and films tend to portray them.
I dont know if it’s because of house of the Dragon, but you 2 are very in tune with the show and characters. I haven’t watched any of your other series so maybe you guys are just very keen in general :) Keep it up, loving these !
Thank you for these uploads, without doubt my favorite reactors right now along with Bust reacts. Still so much greatness to come & please do not listen to people who act like the show died after season six it doesn't. Blessings from the UK.
I absolutely LOVE how much Pudgey cares about all this--seeing her emotional reaction for Theon's downfall shows how much she really feels empathy for the characters/hopes for them to do the right thing
You guys have some of the best content on TH-cam. You have a lot of the same thoughts/ideas/theories as most of us did when we first watched GoT. I remember falling down the conspiracy rabbit holes after season 6. I still watch conspiracy videos and Winds of Winter probably wont come out anytime soon
It irks me a bit when people claim the Starks treated Theon oh so well. True, he was fed, clothed and even trained in combat according to his social status. But also, we literally saw Rob being a complete ungrateful shit to him just a season ago - and that's Rob, the only Stark he was actually close with. Not saying it absolves Theon for his treachery, but let us call things as they are
He WAS treated well according to the cultural standards and expectations for someone in his position. Most people in his position in Westeros are treated far worse.
@@suddenimpulse030 sure, but those people also aren't expected to switch sides and show loyalty to their jailors after such treatment. The question is not wether it was good enough in some abstract sense, but specifically was it good enough to make Theon go against his own family and nation
@@Orimthekeyacolite Rob was angry at Theon because Theon fired an arrow within a few inches of Bran. It was a tough situation where Theon saved Bran's life, but also threatened his life at the same time. Rob wouldn't have taken the same chance. However, Theon might have been right since Bran might have been dead otherwise.
The masked lady is Qaith or Qwaithe or something like that. She's a character in the books, but the show dropped her storyline after that one episode for some reason
I'm watching your GOT reactions in order and am thoroughly enjoying myself so far. You are delightful and compliment each other great! You are both very lucky to have the other; keep up the good work, can't wait to see the rest!✌❤
'Robb can do better'. Thousands of men have just cried out in disbelief. Never mind a third eye, Spartan seems to have no eyes! Jakka Hakka still going strong. A man is intriguing indeed.
Watching this scene again, I think petyr definitely knew that was arya, but just chose not to say anything. You can see him looking at her multiple times. I'm surprised tywin didn't catch on to him staring at her.
That's why he makes the comment about Catelyn Stark and her daughters, that caught Tywin off guard. Petyr was actually speaking to Arya there, letting her know that he recognized her.
Back to last episode, Tyrion told all a different story of where Marcella was going to see who ran back to tell Cerci. He was looking for a snitch. He already had decided where he was sending her.
See I don't think that. Why would he sit on this info & not immediately act on it when he was away from Tywin? That just doesn't go with the Littlefinger we know. Arya would be a HUGE asset for him. I always took that scene as he ultimately didn't recognize her.
Littlefinger always plays the long game. Who benefits most from immediately knowing that Arya is alive and in Harrenhal? Not Littlefinger. He also knows he can’t manage her like he can manipulate Sansa. So he put that knowledge up under his hat for later.
No. Absolutely not. Littlefinger would have immediately sold out Arya to gain some favor with Tywin. He would never allow her to remain anonymous knowing that her secret could be revealed any moment, which would condemn him for his silence. He thought she looked familiar but dismissed it because in his eyes he was looking at just a commoner.
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@@matinmokhtarzadeh6418 Pssst, no you ruined it. Let them find out for themselves and be mad at Cuntfrey for Spoiling instead of us ;)
Be careful when watching season 3 episode 4 you might want to skip it there is a huge spoiler for house of the dragon it’s talked about in that episode
If you consider how little acting experience had Jack Gleeson when he was portraying Joffrey it makes it more impressive how amazing he was. In every interview his cast members describe him as the sweetest, kindest person.
Most of the young actors had almost no experience. JG was acting since was was at a out 8 years old in Reign of Fire.
@Steve Kuk Steve, I'm sure you can tell the difference between being an actor portraying an angry man and being an angry man in real life.
@@tonismith3707 I can think of many mega stars who act for decades and have blockbusters under their belts and yet can't act. Young Jack was 19 at the time, at that age a 10 year limited acting experience is nothing.
@Steve Kuk Its more the way he makes you hate him. I personally love villains. Ramsey is one of my favorite characters. But, I can't stand Joffrey. That's how good of a job he did.
@Steve Kuk There's a lot more to Joffrey than just being angry, that's the point the op is making in his comment.
"Gods help you, Theon Grayjoy. Now you are truly lost." Truer words were never spoken.
Bonus fact: the actor who played Ser Rodrick, Ron Donachie, is the father of the actor who plays Podrick Payne (Daniel Portman) in real life
Cool, I didn't know that!
I love the small detail of Tyrion referring to the Hound as "Clegane" when everyone else just calls him hound or in joffrey's case "dog"
Yeah. For some reason I got chills from that
yeah, also Tyrion in 1x1 to Sandor "be a good dog and remind him"
@@nickrubin7312 he's Clegane when he does something good, a dog otherwise
@@nickrubin7312in the book he says "Get back on your fucking horse, dog!"
Jon Snow didn't miss, he couldn't do it. On a deeper level, he was listening to the voice of his father "the man who passes the sentence must swing the sword". He didn't think the girl was guilty, so he couldn't execute her.
“The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword. If you would take a man's life, you owe it to him to look into his eyes and hear his final words. And if you cannot bear to do that, then perhaps the man does not deserve to die.”
@@Sinewmire hehehe....
naughty naughty counter thought. it says if you would take a MAN's life
not ..man
“Jack-en Huh-gaar” is closer to the way his name sounds, but don’t worry so much about his name, that guy is no one really…
So subtle..
I prefer Pudgey’s ‘Jakka Hakka’ 😁
@Matt David I see what you did there ... nice! 😜
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Hahahaha I just got it 😂 nice 👍🏻
I wait for Pudgey to call Pycell a sneaky snake every time and I'm not disappointed this week either 😂🐍
its such a low-key polite insult lol
I want her to see the season 3 deleted scene where he drops that act 😂
The fact Tyrion says "well done Clegane" is a small thing but The Hound is caught unawares as he's that used to being called "dog" or "the hound". You can tell he appreciates it.
The last words of the northeners killed are just epic. Now you are truly lost. What a hero Ser Rodrik
When he says "Hush now, I'm off to see your father" my heart breaks.
Kill me and be cursed. You are no King of mine.
The Hound is the textbook example of the "jerk with a heart of gold" trope. He's perpetually angry, he's rude to everyone, but hurt someone he cares about and the hell he sends you to will seem like heaven after what he does to you.
„GOT is not shocking me anymore.“ Oh sweet summerchild 😏
This
I love how Tywin knows Arya is hiding her real identity but since he likes her, he deliberately avoids prying too much because he doesn't want to feel obligated to imprison her or something because he found out she's part of some important Northern House and it would prove strategically advantageous. Of course, since Tywin operates on "real world rules" instead of "fantasy story rules" he never in a million years would suspect this girl is Arya Stark because it makes no logical sense for her to be there in Harrenhall, so far a way from King's Landing. He's assuming she's the daughter of some minor Northern noble House and that allowing her to keep pretending to be a peasant girl in order to survive the war is harmless to the interests of House Lannister. And he likes her so much that he even gave her an honest answer when she asked him about his father, which is one of the rare moments where Tywin lowers his guard and shows a somewhat vulnerable side, which he hasn't even shown to his children in the show, though I assume he has shown it over the years since he told Arya that she reminded him of his daughter, implying that's part of the reason he likes her. I would've happily watched a whole episode of Arya serving Tywin wine while they talk about the war and their families.
This is definitely one of my favorite dynamics of the entire show
Tywin is one of the best character I've ever seen on any of the series and movie.
I'm honestly not a fan of tywin during first time watch. But after Seeing hotD i decide to rewatch got. And dang tywin is a legend.
@@Noone91875 Yeah I have so much respect for him. It's really just a testament to the acting by Charles Dance. You shouldn't like him, but u have to!
@@WilsonRows yep. What a presence Charles dance hold . He dwarfs every other actor in the scene he is in.
Tywin and arya conversations are treat to watch.
I go back and forth. I like their scenes, but at the same time it doesn't fit Tywin's character at all.
Spartan- she’s trying to wriggle out of the rope…
Pudgey- I know what she’s doing 😂😂
Its a move every woman knows. They use it to trick us men into thinking it was our idea...🤣
25:40 This is why I love game of thrones. From his perspective, she has no allies, wealth, or army. She is asking him to give up ships he uses to make his money, to invest in someone that has close to nothing. We know Daenerys so we are rooting for her, but his answer is exactly the answer you would expect.
One dude grabbed other dude and gutted him like a pig, we could clearly see intestines falling out...
Reactor's reaction: Awww, that's so sweet of him!
Welcome to the unique world of GOT.
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There's also great parallels with the Jon, Theon, and Robb storylines - Jon and Robb both being "tempted" by women, and Jon and Theon demonstrating the difference between real strength (Jon's code won't let him execute Ygritte) and cowardice (Theon enacting false "strength" by executing Ser Rodrik). Btw, the actors who play Jon and Ygritte are now married with a son.
Jon, Robb, Joffrey, Sansa, Arya, Daenerys, Sam etc. etc. GoT was all of them having their first professional jobs. And theyre all so amazing.
And it was very special for Jon as he married his "wildling" in real life! He'd have never met her if not for GoT! 🤗 I saw a video of him singing "Wild Thing" to her but he changed it to "Wildling". It was so cute. 😊❤
The scene with Theon not being able to behead Ser Rodrik cleanly is in part because he was using the wrong sword, but more importantly, it was done this way to show that Theon is weak and is not a leader. You can see it in other scenes as well, Theon basically seems to have taken Winterfell from the Starks just so he could say that he did it, that he was finally better than them, but these were people he'd grown up with, so he didn't want to hurt anyone. He's constantly getting talked into it by other members of the Ironborn because he's essentially as insubstantial as a leaf, and will blow in the direction of the person with the strongest breath.
There's also a contrast between Theon killing Ser Rodrick and botching the execution, and Jon Snow refusing to behead an innocent--from Jon's moral code--girl.
@@sld1776 This as well. There's a ton of contrasts and implications to unpack with just that one scene.
Yes. He lacks conviction.
When Danaerys said "my dreams come true" she was referring to her dragon dreams. Same as Aegon's dream of a song of ice and fire
The 'my dreams come true' line still hits my ears differently than how you are framing it. I think their interpretation of how Dany looked in that scene was great.
@@thurnishaley6649 Well Dany is a dreamer, it is very obvious in the books, not so much in the show. But she has a lot of vision. I think here she way definitely refering to dragon dreams
and viserys' dream about his son aegon sitting on iron throne. ie dreams are misleading.
@@ninazupancic7677 yes its unfortunate they cut that stuff from the show a good bit. I can see the merchants side of it as well Hoover, given even among Targaryens this was a rare thing. It's something most people will view as a fabrication or delusion, especially when they are close to extinct.
@@atlasisshrugging did you even watch? let alone read the books. if you think dany is not going to do things in books, she did (and some other things she failed to do), in show, you clearly haven't read them . foreshadowing is much more clear in books, than is show. and that was the real problem with show.
also my reference was to correct aegon , viserys had a dream about.
fun fact: the actors who play John Snow and Ygritte met on the show and then married!
Theon is definitely conflicted, but he not only wants to do well by his father for acceptance, but his sister's taunting probably pushed him into wanting to outdo her.
His sister definitely emasculates him with her words and he most certainly feels like he has to prove himself.
@@ladyhotep5189 you mean he felt emasculated...there's no way to emasculate someone.
14:44 yeah, and on top of that, ser rodrik is the one who taught theon to fight with a sword. It becomes even more tragic when you consider that his death means the end of house cassel (he and jory, the guy who got killed by Jaime in season 1 when the lannisters attacked ned were the last male members)
He didn't teach him well enough apparently :0)
@@gandhialwaysleavesanonion679 Srry m8 but no normal dude is gonna be able to behead someone with dull sword.
Alfie Allen's acting after he decapitated Rodrick is incredible. You can totally see the guy who pushed himself too far and he is torn between "What have I done ?" and "Did I do it right ?"
"If you would sentence a man to death, you owe it to him to look into his eyes and hear his final words. And if you can't bear to do that. Then perhaps the man doesn't deserve to die."
I love how Ned's words come into reality here with Jon and Ygritte.
Fun fact: in real life, the actor who plays Jon Snow is married to the actress who plays Ygritte (the red headed wildling). They met on the show!
sir rodrick's death was so brutal i was TRAUMATIZED dude 😭😭😭😭😭 it's been years since, but I still cannot bring myself to watch it for the second time, even the sounds are horrifying and the bran's and rickon's screams oh nooooooooooooo
Dagmer and Theon's plan that you didn't quite get last episode was to send the bulk of their forces to attack Torrhen's Square, causing the Starks to send their men there to help and leave Winterfell unguarded for Theon's small force to take over.
Way to ruin it with one comment
@@jimmymcgill2772 how does that ruin anything?
@@that.ll_do_pig because they didn't get it. Lol. Which was acknowledged in the first comment. We're robbed of the visual reaction because they're gonna read THIS comment
@@jimmymcgill2772 Are you high or something ? They will not see the episode again lol . The plan is never mentioned again in the future so when exactly did you wanted to see their reaction ?
@@jimmymcgill2772 What this line of thinking never acknowledges is that when the viewer is confused about something the show had no intention of them being confused about, we miss out on reactions because they're just confused. It's not an anthropological study. Explaining things that were not meant to be missed makes future reactions better not worse.
Their reaction to Tyrion bitchslapping Joffrey was hilarious.
I hate that people put expectations about certain episode like they did with Episode 9, they forget its considered as a spoiler too
Theon is such a sad character. He didn’t feel like he belonged anywhere. He was a well treated hostage at Winterfell, but a hostage nonetheless. He wasn’t raised in the ways of the Iron Islands so their ways were foreign to him. Robb might have been the only one to think of and treat him like a brother. I don’t recall Robb treating Theon different to Jon. It’s just sad how alone theon must feel, even though we as viewers know he wasn’t alone as long as he stayed loyal to Robb
Robb was the only one to treat Theon like family. Even Ned was said to be very emotionally distant from Theon
@@ben1ben2ben1 That was in the books, show Ned treated Theon good
The interaction between Tywin and Arya is the best
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The fact that they mentioned that big things happen in episode 9, is a big spoiler in itself. I wish they were not aware of that.
@@747Cone Is it tho? Big things have happened in every ep 9! Think they're on2 it themselves!😊
(Most don't consider S4 ep9 the biggest of 'em either.)
It always found it amusing that in all the shots of the far North there are no trees visible for miles yet they always have wood for fires.
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I never noticed until you said this, now I can’t stop laughing. 😂
They mostly burn shit in these climate, but its probably something they didn´t want the actors go through.
This reminds me of everyone who wants to know who mows the grass in TWD 😆
Fun little fact: the girl who comforts Sansa first at 24:39 is a friend of mine from Croatia where this scene was shot.
oh that's pretty cool!
Theon Greyjoy is a really fascinating character both in the show and the books. He obviously makes some bad decisions, but if you put yourself in his place you can kind of understand why he does so to an extent -- he was really put into a difficult situation given his family and life circumstances and that conflict makes him compelling. And I honestly think Alfie Allen's performance as Theon is one of the best and most underappreciated in the whole series.
Yeah but his internal thoughts in his POV in the books just make him worse. Like, his very first POV (the only one I've read so far) shows that the answer to Bran's "Did you hate us the whole time?" is actually "Yes." And the way he treats that poor girl... ick.
@@arielsteinsaltz1956 To be fair, how could he not hate them the whole time? He was basically taken hostage and kept away from his home by the people who killed his brothers. If someone killed your family members and then took you away from your home, I think you would hate them too. Even if they were nice to you.
@@CaptainPikeachu They also would seem to constantly remind him he's not one of them. He would literally be wanting to help and they'd peck him down a peg because he isn't a Stark
@@ThatsOk83also, if you read from theon's pov you find that life with the Starks wasn't amazing at all. Catelyn never liked him, he didn't get along with Jon. Was close with rob but the other kids are to young. Sansa is like 11 (and isn't nice to theon or Jon at all). Rob is 13 and theon is 19. He was scared shitless of ned who would sometimes be nice and at other times be cold and distant probably because he reminded himself of having to kill theon if balon rebelled and all the servants treated him worse then Jon because everyone in the seven kingdoms despises the iron born.
I maintain that Theon’s most critical mistake was his decision to be prince of winterfell and not just capture the stark boys and retreat back to the iron islands.
Discussion on favorite houses was fun. Personally my favorite is the Tyrells because of Margaery Tyrell (Renly's wife) and another cool Tyrell character you'll meet later :) 🏵
Yeah... 'cause everytime a Tyrell farts it smells like roses ;)
And living in Highgarden seems nice
I've seen this series at least a dozen times. Watching reactions makes me want to watch it again. It is awesome watching peoples reactions to the amazing characters' story arcs.
Just wanted to pop in to say how much I enjoy and look forward to your reactions!
I adore your banter, and just how deeply you are invested. Also your predictions and guesses are really fun. Especially when they accidentally correctly predict stuff that will happen WAY later. Just those “boy if you only knew” moments 😂
Pudgey's laugh is everything this world needs.
I had not noticed it but you were right that all the storylines in this episode were essentialy about trust and betrayal.
The wildling girl is actually pretty ingenious in her tactics -- she is aware that Jon has a moral problem with killing a fighter who has surrendered, and even more so that it is a young woman. In his world, the women don't fight. So, she is keeping him in a state of confusion so that he cannot resolve his moral dilemma by killing her. As long as she keeps talking and introducing uncertainty and potential benefits for him (shelter, warmth, sex, being accepted by Mance Rayder), she is keeping him mentally and emotionally off-balance. It's a survival tactic. Plus, it's fun messing with him.
The man that Theon executed in the beginning is Rodrik Cassel, the Winterfell master-at-arms. He trained all of the Stark children. He even trained Jon Snow and Theon himself. If he's the reason Jon Snow is so good with a blade you should expect him to go out like a badass.
Jon is supposed to be nothing special with a blade in the books. He just had actual training compared to the others at the wall.
@@ben1ben2ben1 thanks for the clarification.
Spartan's face when Tyrion hit Joffrey ahah! Priceless. :D
This is such a pivotal episode.
And I'm loving how much Spartan hates Joffery. 😁
The Hound is one of fan favorites for a reason. Deep down there is good in him and it shows.
He's rude, perpetually angry and excessively violent, but Gods help you if you mess with someone he cares about...
the guy theon cut his head off it was very sad because in the book we had ALOT more time with him as we seen him travel with cat so we get to know him more
Ser Rodrik was good man.
Theon used Torren square to draw out most of the remaining troops guarding Winterfell as a distraction, with the thinking that it will be a win his father and sister would respect.
The man who was pulled apart during the riot was the High Septon, the leader of the Faith. Basically the Pope of their world.
I'm plowing through these reactions and I doubt highly that Spartan won't be surprised again. lol
Every time I hear Bran being hysterical I cry. It's so hard to handle hearing a child being so desperate but not being able to do anything about it. I felt the same way about Sansa when Ned got killed.
"I'm off to see ya, Farther"
What a fucking legend
Execution by beheading using a normal sword is always going to be a 2-3 swing affair, unless the steel is very strong, very heavy, and/or very sharp. That's why Ned Stark used Ice, the Valerian Steel Greatsword (Valerian Steel is very strong and keeps an edge) and why real life executioners used heavy axes.
Even axes often made a mess, hence the guillotine. Fun fact, in France such a beheading was done as recently as 1977!
@@mellertid as far as executions go, I'd not complain about the guillotine. It stacks up well against "modern" methods in terms, on the "client" side. And if you're there to watch someone die, its at least not sugar coating the affair. And you can use a shorter casket, if you're cheap.
I bet the Hound or young Robert Baratheon could’ve taken Rodrik’s head off with one swing with a relatively sharp blade… not saying your argument isn’t accurate but the strength of the one wielding the sword factors in. This scene was to ensure everybody knew Theon was not to be respected, he looks weak even when he takes the “strong” action.
I'm glad you made this point. Modern television and movies have given a wildly accurate understanding of beheadings.
@mate There is a huge difference between the typical medieval sword and swords of today. This is something that has been spoken of many times by historians and weaponsmiths and weapons experts, and even described by original historical accounts. The average sword made today is much sharper and more capable than the average medieval era sword.
The Hound and his brother are unbelievably good at violence lol.
Rob Stark's new love interest (Talisa) is played by Oona Chaplin, Charlie Chaplin's granddaughter!
Loving the reactions guys..... can’t wait to continue this crazy GOT journey with ya!!!
God that scene with Theon and Ser Rodrik gets to me every time. The music, the children crying and screaming for him to stop in the background, Theon’s face…Alfie Allen’s acting in GoT is one of my favorites in any show.
"Theon Greyjoy, now youre truly lost" top3 got-quote imop
"I dreamt the sea came to Winterfell. It came over the walls and flooded the castle. There were dead people floating in the courtyard. Ser Roderick was one of them....."
There's a lot of really interesting minor houses too that we only get snippets of in the series.. But they're also appearing in HoTD, like House Blackwood and House Manderly
I like House Yronwood.
Theon's situation is an extreme case of culture clash where Theon doesn't know how his own people work. He's been raised in the honour-culture of the Starks, in the chivalric and knightly codes of conduct related to the Seven Kingdoms where duty and blood-based authority is everything. But he's a native of the Iron Islands (basically the pirate republic of Nassau) who stand outside the cultural sphere of Westeros, with a people who only value strength and only follow you for as long as you prove yourself ruthless and capable. We see Theon trying to apply the Northern standards he was raised with unto his Iron Islanders but they of course, reject it and demand of him to act in accordance with their ways "paying the iron price". If he does not, he's one wrong word away from being mutinied against and then all support in his homeland is gone as his base of supporters who do follow him solely based on him being their prince is very small. Theon being brought up in the customs of the North was Ned's secret plan all along, that he might one day return to the Iron Islands and help integrate them into the conduct of the Seven Kingdoms as to put an end to their reaving and marauding traditions.
Legit forgot how good this episode is, great reaction from the start
I enjoy your reactions so much I keep forgetting to hit the "like" button! Pudgey's tears...OMG I'm dead. This is brutal but I promise you it's amazing storytelling. Don't give up!
Completely out of topic but fun fact, the actor who plays the nurse Rob's been talking to is Charlie Chaplin's granddaughter
Whoever said in one of your previous GoT Videos that you’re going too slow with uploading your reactions are completely off their fkn rocker. I mean aside from weekends which is understandable, your GoT reactions are going up every 2nd or 3rd day from the previous one which for someone like me that has seen numerous GoT reactions, you guys are the fastest to do it so please pay people like that no mind and upload when you can but only proviso would be just be consistent. 6:22 From memory, his name is pronounced as Jacken Hah’garr - Much love as always to you both from West Sydney!
Agreed. It’s nice to have a new upload every 3-4 days. A lot of other reactors upload once a week at best, and often much longer. It takes time to edit and upload these in addition, so I appreciate this channel very much. It’s nice in 2022 to find someone who has t seen this show yet, is seemingly truly interested in it, and upload frequently.
His name is Jaqen H’Ghar. You could pronounce it like “Ja-Kin”
I can’t wait for some of the reactions later this season and for season 3
"I will take what is mine, with Fire and Blood, I will take it".
The hound is that cool big uncle that does cool shit at the cookout
@9:11 and this is why I like their commentary when they go back in forth lol
"game of thrones isnt shocking me anymore"
Oh my sweet summer child
Ygritte (red-haired wildling girl) is played by Rose Leslie, whom you’ll love to know, married Kit Harrington (John Snow) in real life!
Amazing reaction!!! It's so funny cause I just got past this part in the book yesterday and it was so 🤌🏻❤️😍
Joffery is the mad king all over again. Killing anyone for anything at a whim.
So stoked for you guys being able to watch this for the first time! Having seen this show through….too many times now, I’m jealous 😂
As someone who probably watched this 10 years ago, it's difficult to hold my tongue, but it's also refreshing to watch this again after having not seen it for so long
We appreciate it. We know it can be hard to keep things to oneself spoiler wise =)
it is not because the sword is not valyrian steel, it is because Theon is weak and has no conviction in his actions and thus he cant cut through cleanly and he ends up hacking, it reflects his character as a man
It is also because ceremonial sword for executions and fighting longsword are not the same. Thinking he would cut head clean with longsword with this stance and position of the executed? Impossible
Well, it's also not the proper sword for beheadings. One would normally use a heavier and sharper sword than this. In real life beheadings often took multiple strikes unless using a particularly heavy and sharp executioners armament, unlike how tv shows and films tend to portray them.
32:32 the iconic "WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS?!" oh boy.
I dont know if it’s because of house of the Dragon, but you 2 are very in tune with the show and characters. I haven’t watched any of your other series so maybe you guys are just very keen in general :)
Keep it up, loving these !
Thank you for these uploads, without doubt my favorite reactors right now along with Bust reacts.
Still so much greatness to come & please do not listen to people who act like the show died after season six it doesn't. Blessings from the UK.
I absolutely LOVE how much Pudgey cares about all this--seeing her emotional reaction for Theon's downfall shows how much she really feels empathy for the characters/hopes for them to do the right thing
Pudge’s having a “this f*king show!” Moment… 😂
You guys have some of the best content on TH-cam. You have a lot of the same thoughts/ideas/theories as most of us did when we first watched GoT. I remember falling down the conspiracy rabbit holes after season 6. I still watch conspiracy videos and Winds of Winter probably wont come out anytime soon
Pudgey Pillows saying “jaqa haka” cracks me up!
"That could be dangerous, to believe that too" - most insightful he might've said so far 😏
Theon's not a swordsman he's an archer. Thats why he had a hard time cutting off the head.
It irks me a bit when people claim the Starks treated Theon oh so well. True, he was fed, clothed and even trained in combat according to his social status. But also, we literally saw Rob being a complete ungrateful shit to him just a season ago - and that's Rob, the only Stark he was actually close with. Not saying it absolves Theon for his treachery, but let us call things as they are
He WAS treated well according to the cultural standards and expectations for someone in his position. Most people in his position in Westeros are treated far worse.
@@suddenimpulse030 sure, but those people also aren't expected to switch sides and show loyalty to their jailors after such treatment. The question is not wether it was good enough in some abstract sense, but specifically was it good enough to make Theon go against his own family and nation
@@Orimthekeyacolite Yes that I do understand and agree with. Clearly he decided it was not.
He wasn't close to Jon because he treated Jon like shit; Theon has always been a follower, and a bully pretending to be the "big" man.
@@Orimthekeyacolite Rob was angry at Theon because Theon fired an arrow within a few inches of Bran. It was a tough situation where Theon saved Bran's life, but also threatened his life at the same time. Rob wouldn't have taken the same chance. However, Theon might have been right since Bran might have been dead otherwise.
The masked lady is Qaith or Qwaithe or something like that. She's a character in the books, but the show dropped her storyline after that one episode for some reason
I'm watching your GOT reactions in order and am thoroughly enjoying myself so far. You are delightful and compliment each other great! You are both very lucky to have the other; keep up the good work, can't wait to see the rest!✌❤
Fun fact, Set Rodderick, who Theon executed, and Podric Payne, are real life Father and Son.
8:55 "What the hell" That's exactly I say after watching each episode of GoT. You guys r the best 👍💯
Arya seems like a character with a promising and long journey here, she has to grow so much to overcome all that happened to her family.
''ja kuhn huh gaa'' An annoying name to remember XD I'm loving these videos. Cant get enough.
'Robb can do better'. Thousands of men have just cried out in disbelief. Never mind a third eye, Spartan seems to have no eyes!
Jakka Hakka still going strong. A man is intriguing indeed.
I’ve been waiting!
Cheers Spartan! Great review
Watching this scene again, I think petyr definitely knew that was arya, but just chose not to say anything. You can see him looking at her multiple times. I'm surprised tywin didn't catch on to him staring at her.
That's why he makes the comment about Catelyn Stark and her daughters, that caught Tywin off guard. Petyr was actually speaking to Arya there, letting her know that he recognized her.
These are great, can't wait for the next one. 😀
Theon couldn’t cut the head cuz he is weak af not cuz he didn’t have Valyrian steel.
Back to last episode, Tyrion told all a different story of where Marcella was going to see who ran back to tell Cerci. He was looking for a snitch. He already had decided where he was sending her.
18:00 I do believe that Baelish did recognize Arya, but chose to keep that information to himself for now.
Information is power and Littlefinger wouldn't give power to the Hand of the King and richest lord in the land for free. Agree 100%.
See I don't think that. Why would he sit on this info & not immediately act on it when he was away from Tywin? That just doesn't go with the Littlefinger we know. Arya would be a HUGE asset for him. I always took that scene as he ultimately didn't recognize her.
Littlefinger always plays the long game. Who benefits most from immediately knowing that Arya is alive and in Harrenhal? Not Littlefinger. He also knows he can’t manage her like he can manipulate Sansa. So he put that knowledge up under his hat for later.
No. Absolutely not. Littlefinger would have immediately sold out Arya to gain some favor with Tywin. He would never allow her to remain anonymous knowing that her secret could be revealed any moment, which would condemn him for his silence. He thought she looked familiar but dismissed it because in his eyes he was looking at just a commoner.