The point of Ursula singing about women shutting up is she’s SUPPOSED to be wrong. They’re teaching kids to be dumb and not use their critical thinking?? When I was a kid I knew I couldn’t trust Ursula and anything she says. Let kids think!!
They legit should've just stuck to the friggin original movie. It is, and will always be, better than any "woke crap" they're pushing on folks now days. It's getting out of hand how they feel the need to "race swap" everything too. And not in a good way either. They tried their best to perpetuate the stereotypical "gangster/ghetto is good and applies if you're black" bs. If I were black, I'd find that offensive personally. Black folks can be well spoken, well educated, AND not like rap all the time! Good lord dude..😩 They REALLY screwed the pooch on this "remake" imo.
Agreed. They are doing this intentionally though. Making the villains more likeable because they identify more with the villains than the heroes. My wife pointed this out and I can't unsee it
You poor thing. A product of today's jack society. Don't cherry pick and twist what was said. She said men don't like a lot of chatter. This is a fact. You're confused because you were raised and programmed in a gynocracy. See if a woman has critical thinking skills then she is also good with interpersonal dynamics. Such a woman then understands things like what men look for generally in a wife. Your EQ and knowledge on the topic are low.
"Kiss the Girl" was originally sung by Sebastian because Prince Eric was too shy or reluctant to kiss her and, of course, to break the curse he needed to kiss the girl. There was never a question of him forcing himself on her so the whole idea is ridiculous!
I always thought that was the plan, Sebastian was singing to give Eric courage to kiss Ariel to break the curse. Something he and Ariel agreed on to help her. I’m genuinely not wasting my time with this. Disney is doing too much.
the song is still in there, and sounds very similar to the original. same tune. just the same romantic feel and they do almost kiss. i don’t see the issue.
The whole point of Ursula telling Ariel, “It’s she who holds her tongue that gets a man” was to convince her that she wouldn’t need her voice anyway. It was to persuade Ariel to make the deal so that Ursula could further manipulate her. She was lying to Ariel. You know, like a villain.
and a reason to get Ariel's voice for herself so she can seduce Eric because without it she would have had 0 chance - Disney need to re-watch their classics
I also like to point out the time period it depitcs. Like women of the era of high nobility and big dresses were usually all of those things! Like be "lady like" and all that jazz. That's how I've always interpreted those lines
@@Levi-xq5ld the giant poofy sleeves and big skirts are telling me 1830s. 1830s is right before the start of the Victorian era, so female leadership was extremely hit or miss. You'd have certain jobs that were dominated by women (example: dress making wasn't taken over by men until the end of the Victorian era with people like Worth). So, I see what you're saying, but I think OP is right -- the point was Ursula lying to Ariel to manipulate her.
"Eric doesn't ask Ariel's consent to kiss her" it's statements like this one that shows just how little some people care about the truth and how they just want to complain about something. In the animated film ARIEL tries to kiss him first and Eric actually pulls back, then at the end of the song they both go in for the kiss at the same damn time.
Even in real life no one asks for consent to be kissed by their crush or partner. Like if I went on a date with a guy that I really liked and he really liked me and it was SO obvious that in the moment of him leaning in to kiss me he goes “Ma’dam I may request your consent to press my lips against yours” I’d be like “dude what??” Like it kinda ruins the moment LOL
@@xxMpEGxx 100% true that it’s all in the eyes! If we want a guy to kiss us we will generally look very happy/excited and there’s like a twinkle in our eyes or if you catch us looking more at your lips. You can also tell that we want to kiss you by being more touchy or trying to be closer to you (ex: leaning in closer, sitting closer to you etc). If you don’t see any of these signs, do not kiss us. If you’re unsure and you still go in for the kiss, well I guess you’ll get your answer quickly 😂
@stevenmorrison5321 It's Disney's own work. Who's work are they stealing? People are able to redraw their own art. I rewrite my old stories all the time
@@jemelmancho3416 but it was disneys own work, yes Walt came up with the designs of the characters and how the strip will go but it was loosely changed from the original story of Hans Christian Andersen
@@jemelmancho3416 Little mermaid isn't Desney's to begin with. It's not original, it's just more childish version of Andersen's story. I don't think they technicly "stole" it thuogh since it was published in 1837 but there's nothing to be too proud off - none of their most well known movies are original but cover versions of famous stories
Ariel saved Eric's life and then he saved hers. Not only he got to return the favor but with that gesture he proved to king Triton that not all humans were bad. But alas, the live action film took that away :(
@@Mitsu2040 And Eric saved Ariel twice in the original; by grazing Ursula with a harpoon just before she struck Ariel with the trident and at the end with the epic Ursula death scene.
Yeah they turned the movie in a joke for woke agenda. The man gets portayed again as solely incompetent while the woman is the girl boss. The whole movie is just cringe.
Triton was turned into a monster in the original for a reason. Killing him in the remake has created a massive problem. Like hey kids, your parents approval doesn’t matter. Arial and Eric got together without Triton’s approval :D
Putting out every signal? That's what boys say when they touch women inappropriately. I had it happen SOO many times as a young girl and I would be giving NO signals. Can you list her signals? Eye contact means kiss? What are the signals?
It's absolutely crazy what they did to Ursula's song. I was a kid when the movie came out and even I knew Ursula was lying. 🙄 This is proof that youth today (and many adults) couldn't think their way out of a paper bag.
The only reason Ursula mentioned body language and men "not liking a lot of blabber" was because when Ursula asked for her voice, Ariel was hesitant and unsure, so Ursula was trying to convince her that men *prefer* silent women, manipulating Ariel into thinking not having a voice wasn't an issue and that she could easily win Eric over with just her body language alone.
Not to dispute you, but both movies do show Eric falling for the "silent" Ariel. Had she been able to speak, he wouldn't have gotten to know her the way that he did. After all, he was searching for his lovely-sounding "savior". That created an instant bias on his part. So, with Ariel's silence, Eric got to fall for her without prejudice. Remember how the sound of Ariel's singing almost got him to marry the wrong person?
@@vitasporan566 Eric was waiting out for the girl who saved him and was practically pressured into choosing voiceless Ariel by Sebastian with Kiss the Girl and the Butler, because "she's real and right here, unlike your dream girl". Even when failing for Ariel, with spending time with her and learning about all her wacky quirks, he was still holding out because of the girl who saved him. The one with the voice. And Ursula was brain washing Eric. He had no choice in "almost marrying the wrong girl". She didn't just have Ariel's voice, she had magic.
@@vitasporan566 I mean yes but that's not really my point though. I'm talking about why Ursula was talking about body language, not if Eric could fall for a silent Ariel or not, which he obviously did. But like I said Ursula was manipulating Ariel so talking about something else she had available to her was one way to do it. Also Ursula was surprised when Eric almost kissed Ariel so she hadn't thought Ariel would manage without her voice; I believe that was why she took her voice to begin with since that's how Eric would have recognized her.
That is true! He kept from wanting to kiss her because he was looking for the girl who was singing when she saved him. When she got her legs, she didn't speak and yes, Ursula said this to convince Ariel to give up her voice.
Well in the brother's grim tales version, he mistook his savior for another woman and ended up marrying her lol. It's not funny but the trouble she went through trying to get this man's attention only to marry someone else....mhm.
The changes for the "modern world" didn't make sense for the story overall. Ariel saves herself right? Eric saving her was important because King Triton hated humans and didn't trust them. Due to Eric saving his daughter, he understood that maybe he was wrong and not all humans are the same.
@@tfd92 The original cartoon they actually worked together. This one, Eric barely does anything and Ariel who has never steered a ship a day in her life, takes down Ursula all by herself. The remake was so much worse than the original.
My only issue with Halley Bailey is they didn't make her hair red enough. Wouldn't have been difficult at all. Unforgiveable. Melissa McCarthy is solid gold brilliant as always.
This sadly goes against their diversity agenda. Take the daughters - every one representing a different part of the ocean. Our race-swapped main protagonist represents the Caribbean. In their mind it would be a disservice to diversity to give her red flowing hair instead of sticking to the stereotype. See, they can manipulate fantasy stories by race swapping a certain way, but no way can they change real world characteristics if the established character has features representative of their race.
Even at 8 years old I understood Ursula was lying to Ariel by telling her men don't like women who speak. That she said that just so it would actually be MORE difficult for Ariel to communicate with Eric. Looks like children are smarter than some adults.
36 year old man, here. Never understood why men say they don't like women to speak. I cannot personally handle a quiet woman. I need a woman who speaks, a lot. Maybe even too much. It's just easier for my personality to have a woman who is very talkative.
@@Icemario87 as a soon to be 25 year never once heard a regular man talk about not wanting a women to speak, we as men complain more about women lack of communication and mix signals. I have seen some weirdos(very few) talk about women should only speak when spoken too but those people are usually clowned for having such a dumb opinion.
Ariel rescues Eric in the beginning in the original, so she's hardly a damsel. Eric facing off against a sea witch, something completely outside his experience, risking his life and playing to his strengths to save Ariel showed how much he loved her. The message to me as a kid was it's OK to need and accept help from people who love you. And they both rescued each other during the film which is something couples do for the one they love to support one another. Just another thing about the original they ruined for "mOdErN aUdIeNcEs"
Sometime I wonder how big is the actual population of the "mOdErN aUdIeNcEs". Most audience doesn't even want this type of garbage, it's always the producer or director trying to push their agenda that want these things to be made. The types of people that was hired because of "diversity hiring" instead of their actual talents
I like Eric saving Ariel in the end better. It was very balanced that way. She saves him in her element (in the ocean when he almost drowns), and he saves her in his element (on a ship). They both feel at home on/in the sea and they use there unique skills regarding their relationship with the sea to help and save each other.
I disagree. It’s not a Co protagonist case like in Tangled; Ariel’s meant to be the protagonist and it makes a big deal out of her foolishly rushing into Ursula’s deal. But at the end, it was Triton who went through the big character ark and made the sacrifice, then Eric beat the big bad. She didn’t get much to do in her own film. It’d be like if Jasmine did everything at the end of Aladdin. Eric could have been involved and helped, but Ariel should have defeated Ursula. But it should have been something that made sense to her character ark, it shouldn’t have just swapped Eric for her
@@aikikaname6508 You know, I read a novel adaptation of the Little Mermaid where she defeats the sea witch herself, but the prince protects her from the witch’s human allies. It’s quite good.
I find it so depressing that Ariel has to save Eric twice & defeat Ursula herself. So now we're teaching women they have to do it all themselves and not to expect anything from their partners? Why would she even want to be with Eric anymore when he's gone from a person who will fight by her side to one sitting on the sidelines?
Exactly. And in real life people wonder why men aren‘t Holding doors anymore and stuff. You know I‘m a Single mother and have to do Everything By myself all the freaking time. Do I want To see strong and Independent women in movies all the time? Nope. I do that in real life already. Can‘t there just be NORMAL people in there??? One time a Woman saves the day, another time the man. That would be equal. Now it‘s just overcompensating.
And besides should we return to the good old days where women couldn’t do anything and had to be depended on their man,is that what you want sis? Like y’all are trying to find any reason to hate in the movie just bcs she’s black
They tried to make ursula woke? The whole point of poor unfortunate souls was how wrong she was. She's the villian you're not supposed to listen to her.
I just saw the movie today. The changes in the songs were barely noticeable. People are freaking out over very minimal lyric changes and honestly no one would be saying anything if the writers didn't say they changed it
@@cynthiahembree3957 Exactly, she's the aquatic version of the devil. Course that seems to be a god in Hollywood and woke culture now, so...makes sense.
One of my biggest issues with changing the ending of the original is that you negate the change that comes over King Triton regarding his opinion of humans. Eric doesn’t just save Ariel by killing Ursula, he ends up saving King Triton and all of the mermaids and mermen she held captive. And by the end we see all the merpeople up top for the wedding, indicating a change in policy regarding humans has taken place. King Triton even gives a nod to Eric indicating respect and trust as he lets his daughter go live her life with him. This, like all the other woke changes, just shows a lack of understanding of the original movie in this cult-like adherence to making every female character a “girl boss.”
true, that's the problem with almost all critics on old disney movies by woke people, like cinderella was dumb and just run after a prince, or ariel only wants a man too... or aurora and so on.... they completely miss the moral of the story like thing in all old disneys, and that the characters often had a deep desire for something in the first place... before they fell in love.... ariel was always interested in humans and a curious rebellious mermaid falling in love was just the icing on all the other wished she had, and Cindy.. she wanted just to be free from her horrible familiy and be happy again, and so on ,,, all the girls had their own problems or terrible sad backround stories to deal with and were still not giving up... so why do we need this girlboss shit?? the girls are already boss without this poor cheap new storytelling. and it's sad that nowadays young adults are not getting it what this movies want to teach us but our generation (80/90) understood it even as children... like everyone here said.. we knew ursula was lying and didn't thought about oh wait that's not a correct way to describe a woman..... wth
Ikr. It's so annoying that I hear the actresses of Disney princesses all claiming that they "don't need to be saved" to the point that it looks scripted
@@nightmelody436 I was born like a decade or two later but I grew watching these movies and growing up, I get to see more meaning behind certain things Disney put in their movies. In conclusion, it's really just about the audience who aren't educated enough to appreciate what we give
Its worse then that! By having Eric not save Ariel, they've gutted the main storyline. The whole point was for Trident to relise that not all humans are bad and his prejudices, while understandable with the death of his wife, are still wrong.
Ursula’s song is my favorite villain song of all time, and the lines that they removed were so important to it. That’s her big manipulation factor to get Ariel to give Ursula her voice. The song was written brilliantly in the original movie. What a shame.
Same! I had forgotten the original lyrics, but I was sitting there like, “She didn’t say anything convincing! Why does she turn and tell Flotsam and Jetsam that she’s ‘got her’ when she said nothing persuasive?”
It’s like Disney thinks girls are too stupid to understand that Ursula is evil?? Eric fell in love with her voice first so Ursula took it in order to manipulate the whole situation in her favor. C’mon Disney, everyone knows the point, you don’t have to treat us like idiots.
Ariel was fascinated by humans and wanted to be around them way before she met Eric. She just happened to fall in love with him when she saw him and that was the catalyst to push her forward in achieving her dream. There really wasn't anything wrong with the original, people for some reason was only focusing on some parts and ignoring everything else it represented (like Ursula's song).
The whole point of Poor Unfortunate Souls was to manipulate Ariel. It was super clear in the old movie, even when I watched it as a 6 year old. Not everything must be about being a girl boss. Plus, I found it beautiful that Ariel saved Eric from the ship and Eric later saved Ariel from Ursula. It showed that they both loved and cared for each other.
What's ironic to me is they feel the need to adjust these songs but Hellfire totally fine Disney sees nothing wrong with it. For the record I'm not trying to have them get rid of it. Villains are not people to look up to or believe.
@@MiaogisTeas exactly, in this new movie she is neither hopelessly in love with Prince Eric nor does she need him when she’s in danger so it makes no sense for him to even be there. She could’ve given up her voice to go to the human world and just explore without even including the prince 😂
If anything Eric was the one being manipulated to kiss Ariel. He was hesitant at first and the song was to give him a little push. Besides Ariel's body language spoke louder than words! Girl really wanted her kiss😂
"Eric didn't ask consent!". Really? There is Ariel, Sebastian & co trying to mindtrick Eric into kissing her and they question Eric? If anything, he is the victim of a vile scheme...
I think Triton killed off his entire harem and told them all their singular "mom" was killed by humans... because he's a sea imperialist who formed a global empire by uniting the 7 seas through marriage, and when objections arose he killed off the other kings and now all the mermaid heirs are his... but they're all girls, which means future political marriages are the only way he can keep his line going, and he's clearly uneasy about the situation, and like Hitler and the reichstag, he blames an outside party for why he rules as an authoritarian, to "protect" them. It's like, what if Solomon was an emperor who went full GoT.
So we're OK with the whole mermaids being real, Ursula is half octopus, half human, magically transforming people into humans and taking their voice, but Triton can't have daughters with different coloured skin unless he screwed multiple different women? Got it.
@@CarlBramhall ah the classic "nothing matters because its fantasy" defense. If it doesn't matter to you then why defend the deliberate decision to change it? Catch 22. Everyone who actually cares about fiction knows all these things matter. Something being fiction isn't a license to not follow through with the appearance of coherent internal rules. The best fiction is always overlapping reality where possible for the sake of verisimilitude. Going from cartoon, where less verisimilitude is necessary, to live action, nearly always demands an increase in coherence.
So in the animation Ariel wore a stylish sail, a blue corset dress, a stunning pink ballroom gown, a sparkly silver dress and the cherry on top: an angelic white wedding dress. In the live action she just wears the same blue rag all the time and these ankle boots?! I thought she wanted to be part of the human world? Then why didn't she care about the clothes?
Because clothes are literally the least interesting part about being human. She had an entire land to explore! She learned how to walk, ate new food for the first time, danced with the locals, rode a horse, learned half the history of humankind within ONE day and on top of all this you want her to change clothes five times a day? Bro, get a life. Besides, it's obvious from her personality that she is someone who prefers to learn and have fun over trying to look pretty.
@@anna-5104Clothes are not the least interesting part of being human, you could say the same about reading, cooking or painting or anything, clothes and characterization matter
It's even worse when you consider that she's living with royals, they're royals and they're supposed to have the money to get her some more beautiful clothes to wear.
Thats it. Thats why I didnt like the actress that much...There was no love in her eyes like in the cartoon like in the cartoon ariel was more expressive and delicate in her vocals.
@YuBullyMe name some books being banned. Books aren't being banned, they're being age restricted. There's no reason to have, or accept, pornographic books in schools.
Thing is if you go to FB with he little mermaid thing people are saying. " me and my kids loved it. ' I'm like are you all high are something how did you all like this?
I was really upset that she saved the day at the end. Not only because it’s not true to the story. But the idea is that she saved him initially, sacrificed her voice to become a human and be with him, and in turn he saved her at the end because he’d also do anything for her. These modern day remakes are completely missing the true messages and ideas from the originals, all because of some silly theories and woke ideals. They’re detracted from seeing the beauty in these stories. I’m not sorry when I say I’m mad that today’s Disney movies have no desire for romance. While love doesn’t work out for everybody, I think desiring to love and be loved is incredible and we should embrace that💖
If we were really going by the original fairytales then she dies at the end the directors can change what they want just like the animated film changed what it wanted
Ariel wanted to be kissed by Eric. Not only did she love him but her very existence depended on him kissing her "before the sun sets on the 3rd day" and her friends who sang "kiss the girl" knew this. It was obviously a welcome kiss, no coercion whatsoever.
Personally I loved in the original how both Ariel and Eric save each other at different points in the story. I think it demonstrates a healthy relationship much more than the other Disney movies, both parties have their strengths and help each other where they can. It's not one sided, it's equal and I love that
Toxic femininity. Being a woke, man hater doesn't make you a feminist. They are literally ignoring the differences between men and women and destroying the balance between them.
not to me, because now when a woman asks for help im just gonna keep walking or driving or whatever!!!! the message is women don't need a man so be it!!!! lmao
I agree. In the original she saved him, then later he saved her ... they both had their moment to show their love in a heroic way. It sort of came full circle.
As a med student I was sitting in the theater with my niece and I was mentally going through all the weird genetic anomalies that the professor mentioned to us, but I couldnt come up with an explanation how a hispanic guy could produce 7 different races even with multiple women
@@bob6228 I know babe, I've heard Amala's explanation, they could've done it by decorating their tails appropriate for their distinctive cultures rather than blatantly defying genetics
Sebastian's expressiveness is what made him so memorable. He was designed as a Jamaican with thick lips, pearly teeth, and emotive eyes. You can't do ANY of that with realistic crustacean features! How could they not get that!?
My 5-year old's favorite princess is Ariel, so we mainly watched the movie for her. She said she liked it a little bit and she likes the cartoon better. I share her opinion. I kind of liked that the sisters represent the different seas, but it took away from the character of King Triton. In the cartoon, he comes off as a really loving and gentle family man. Because his daughters all look differently, I would conclude that he had different baby mamas, so he came off more as egotistical rather than loving. I think it would have worked if they were all adopted because humans killed their parents. I was willing to look pass that though and actually liked the movie. I thought the cast did a great job, Halle's version of Part of your World was amazing, and despite the change in lyrics and missing lines, Melissa was a good Ursula. HOWEVER, they ruined the movie for me by having Ariel kill Ursula instead of Eric. To me, it was vital for the relationship of humans and merpeople that Eric kills Ursula - a human saving mermaids for a change. Ariel might have her dad convinced that humans are okay, but would other mermaids just blindly follow? Prince Eric is one of the best Disney princes, if not the best, and they took away his biggest contribution. It was too forced. Also, the interaction between Eric and KingTriton at the end of the movie was very cold. The way the king said "Eric..." came off as contempt (probably because he did nothing) instead of respect. On a positive note, I think the star of the movie was Sebastian, and I don't mind "Scuttlebutt." The movie is also good enough that I wouldn't mind if my girls want to watch it again, I would just have to skip the big fight scene. Although so far, they've declined every time I ask them if they want to watch it again. But they've watched the cartoon a couple of times since we've watched the live action one.
I agree it's a shame they gave the killing Ursula part to Ariel. In the original they both saved each other. It showed they care more for one another and are also more equal.
I mean I would’ve liked it better if those were still his biological daughters considering some kids don’t look nothing their their biological parents.
Please don’t hate me for saying so, but in my personal opinion, none of the characters for themselves, especially not Ariel they changed her to the point where she’s completely unrecognizable.
The entire point of 'Poor Unfortunate Souls' was that it was a VILLAIN song, sung in a bouncy brulesque theme, and Ursula, as a VILLAIN, was telling Ariel that the thing to do was objectify herself sexually to get whatever she wanted - something the villainous Ursula goes on to do when disguising herself as Vanessa! And that giving away something as important as her voice, her ability to express her opinion, her ability to tell Eric who she is, won't actually MATTER, as men would prefer her to keep her mouth shut anyway. Ursula did not actually want Eric and Ariel to achieve true love, so of course she would just as likely give bad advice. But of course, as we've seen in The Lion King, even villains can't be offensive nowadays.
That is such a good observation! Having been as young as I was when I saw the Little Mermaid I obviously didn’t know what burlesque was so the fact that it was totally sung as a DL burlesque number had always completely flown over my head until YOU pointed this out! I’m kind of embarrassed that I still never realized it lol. Totally explains the somewhat sexualized male fantasy BS that the lyrics adopted l! what better way to drive her con than to reinforce it with a sexy little burlesque performance done in the understated genius manner that was only ever possible during Disneys renaissance. Ugh RIP Disney, you were a product of your time just as the modern day Disney is today…which is just beyond depressing.
I'm probably going to regret it, but would you mind telling me how exactly they butchered Scar in the remake? I haven't watched and won't watch it - I'm of the opinion that Disney should get as little money as possible for their remake conveyor belt (no judgement towards people who did watch them, especially parents/guardians, that's just my own personal stance).
Not to mention how it showed off his bravery. To me, he and Ariel are made for each other. Both are courageous, desire a life different from their upbringing, and have compassion for others. But the first movie has Ariel as heroine (following the shipwreck), and Eric as hero (using a ship to end Ursula's superpower); however, the live-action takes the hero-aspect away from the already kind-of-dreary, Eric, making Ariel a double-heroine (savior of the shipwreck AND ender of Super Ursula). And notice how she (live-action version) turned their survival in the fight with the super-powerful Ursula, into a rescue for her dad, when she told her father that it wasn't she alone who helped bring back her father? That part had me going, "Huh?". What I saw in the struggle were Arial and Eric trying hard not to die.
Well obviously the hardcore feminists don’t like a woman being in trouble because they’re narcissistic assholes who only care about that specific gender
It's all about what women should aspire to be but leaves no room to say "here are venerable qualities in men". Because good qualities in men I guess somehow make the woman less than. It's a pretty sad commentary on today's gender relations, for women to be strong the men have to be weak.
I’m not comfortable with the bullying that took place for the Moana actress who had to bow out due to not being dark enough. But here race don’t matter 😂
@@daniellee622 Disney often than not forgets they are a kids company. Kids really don’t give a fuck if your a shade too light. Disney has been given over to the full grown adult woke crowd.
Was she bullied for not being dark? I thought she took on the role of an executive producer for the film and then wanted a younger islander to take on the role that changed her life🤷🏽♂️
@@SamiOklo oh yeah, ppl hated that she was "Too light" even though she's Hawaiian. I loved the idea of an islander playing the role, but the woke folk bitched. But flip that and you're a racists. Shit just doesn't make sense anymore.
When I watched the little mermaid as a child, i missed all those tiny nuances leftist are so concerned with and afraid of. Why? BECAUSE I WAS A CHILD! 🙄
I'm sorry you didn't have parents that cared enough to point out those nuances to you and proceed to manipulate you and indoctrinate you in the proper leftist way of thinking. /s
but The Little Mermaid IS a leftist movie: the theme is feminism and independence, it was written by a gay man who was going through the aids epidemic, and based on a story written by another gay man from the 1800s who tried to come out to his crush and failed miserably. There are some unnecessary changes made in this version, but at its core, this was always a leftist story with leftist morals.
Well they fully believe in subliminal messaging & are themselves tying to manipulate children in everything they do. Also Dems are the only ones who hear “dog whistles”
@@mariosblago94 And the original fairy tale was written by a danish author who wrote it to digest his unrequited love to a man whose wedding with a woman he fled.
Disney is trying to invert what's right and what's wrong, thus making villains appear as good and sometimes vice versa, heroes as the bad guys. This is intentional and they've been doing it for some time.
I am so happy she mentioned that Ursula is obviously a villain and says a lot of things that are not true so the idea that little girls would take advice from her is absolutely ridiculous!
i just hate how they made Eric be this weeping teenager who can't do anything on his own, he literally sailed the seven seas and yet a mermaid who has never been on a ship had to save him, Eric is one of my favorite princes but now he's just meh..
She says it wasn't as woke as she thought. Then she proceeds to mention an onslaught of reasons for why the movie is incredibly woke in pretty much every way.
@@Ramzeis Definitely makes no sense. The went woke on almost all elements. And also the worst kind of woke often, the subtle manipulative kind that results in children having a higher chance in developing mental illnesses in their teen or adult years.
@@thenonexistinghero i think she based the score more rather on whether you could take your kids to the theater without them noticing very woke actions on the film, which I agree with because despite there being many, they're not as big of a deal for kids to notice
I read somewhere (I haven't seen it yet) that the end when Ariel saves Erick, takes away the whole purpose of Ariel's dad seeing people in a whole different way because of how heroic he was. If SHE saves him, there is no reason why Triton would changes his opinion about humans. There is nothing wrong with a man saving a woman, there is something wrong when it's systematically that way.
There's nothing wrong with a man saving a woman but I dont think anyone said there was anything wrong. Eric still went out to sea to find Ariel and he took actions to help take Ursella down. I don't know why people are choosing to get so bogged down by the details except that they want to find things to nitpick. Maybe King Tritton realized humans weren't so bad when he witnessed just how far Ariel was willing to go to be 'a part of that world'. Maybe Eric being out in the sea at the end when he could have been safe in his castle made the King realize some things. There is more than one way to reach a destination.
@@ShantesTravelThings Your comment made 0 sense to me. I haven't seen the movie, it was the first thing that I said. Also, learn some english buddy, it's not that hard.
Wellllllll if you had seen the movie you'd know that Ariel credits eric for helping her save Triton. But also in this version Triton doesn't care about trusting Eric it's more about him trusting ariel to make the right choice for her ownself trusting that she knows best for her own good
What I really like about Eric’s saving Ariel in the 1989 animation is that it shows that he can survive in her world. I remember watching the animation as a kid & thinking that Eric was doomed-that there was no way he could navigate the waters with Ariel. However, he uses his skills as a seaman to commandeer a ship, where he has much more control in the rough waters to battle the sea witch. This scene solidified for me, even as a kid, that Ariel & Eric are a good match. And the live action took that away. ☹️ (Additionally, if the plot were switched to where Ariel ended up using skills she has to save Eric on land, I would have also concluded that Ariel can survive in Eric’s world & that Ariel & Eric are a good match. 🙂)
I never liked the little mermaid film as a kid (I preferred Mulan and B&TB) but by making Ariel kill Ursula, you are taking away equality. The original has: Ariel saves Eric, so later Eric saves Ariel. Now it is: Ariel saves Eric, and then Ariel saves Eric again. It ruins the whole dynamic and equality between men and women. It's also not very romantic, honestly, to have the relationship be one-sided.
If they can't understand how to read basic body language and social cues then it's no wonder so many people are socially inept. I'm autistic and while growing up, films like the animated Little Mermaid actually helped make it easier for me to understand nonverbal communication. I never needed Ursula to outright say "I'm evil" for me to understand that she was the bad guy in the story just like she didn't need to openly admit to lying about men preferring silent women for anyone to understand that she was trying to manipulate Ariel into giving up her voice. I find them dumbing down their movies and their villains painfully insulting.
I adore chef Louis and Les Poissons as much as the next girl (and I’m not even offended by the cheesy accent) but I think chopping heads off of live-action fishies would upset the children who are the target audience. Might be a little gory🤢
I know! That was my favorite part in the original Little Mermaid and I didn’t even realize they had left it out until I got out of the movies! Honestly I could have done without one of the songs that Eric sings just so we could put that song back in!! 😢
I think it was so little kids don't suddenly refuse to eat seafood. 😆 It hits a little different when it's not in cartoon form and they think they're actually eating Sebastian.
Wanting diversity, representation and inclusion should mean to create a new, an original and a unique character, build it up and make the character an icon whom people can identify with. It does not mean changing an established icon and creating rifts and confusion in the process. If I were an African-American, I would feel ashamed that Disney had to erase Ariel's skin colo(u)r just to make me feel like I belong somewhere instead of creating something new for me. I honestly would not watch this movie because, I find it disrespectful to original writer and people in general.
Thank you. She is described as white with blue eyes numerous times in the original fairytale but apparently Disney's new way of doing this is stealing European culture and then blackwashing it because they dislike white people (just look at their anti slavery episode of louder and prouder).
Ok so... let's talk about how a mermaid with no experience in steering a ship... successfully steered a ship into Ursula. Your anti woke score was waaaay too high.
Yeah, I really enjoyed the film, but that scene did grate on me a bit. Definitely should have been Eric saving her in that moment. I still think the film as a whole was good.
The ‘strong female’ character trope really is making me start to defend damsels in distress. First off Ariel wasn’t even a a damsel in the first place since she saved Eric under the ocean and the end there’s this bad ass scene where Eric saves Ariel back from Ursella but no they had to change cause apparently if a man helps/supports/saves a woman’s life it automatically makes her a ‘Damsel’.
I agree. If this is actually the new way, all "straight" women will end up spinsters in the near future. Nobody wants a partner who puts themselves above them and demonstrates their superiority. I couldn't think of anything more appaling...
Very true, and most experts in the field agree that it accounts for a little over half of the communication between people. So, to drop it means that over half of that message was lost.
11:30 Exactly!!! She is the villain. She is purposefully lying to convince Ariel and trap her in signing the contract. It's the whole point of the song
Changing the lyrics to Kiss the Girl was one of the dumbest choices Disney ever made. I wish someone in Hollywood would tell people, "if you're suddenly offended by something you loved as a child, you need to get a life, get over yourself, or get help."
It’s not about being offended. People act like songs written 50 yrs ago are totally relevant to now. People date differently so the lyrics can be updated. Plus it’s a better message to teach your kids to ask before touching someone.
@@tanitaharris7211 People born in 1989 will be crushed to find out they've just turned 50. But seriously, Ariel *wanted* to kiss Eric, it was literally part of the deal with Ursula that she had to make Eric fall in love with her and kiss her in *three* days. Eric wasn't doing anything to force himself on Ariel, wasn't it Sebastian the one who kept singing to him to "kiss the girl"?
ginger spells the n word if you move the letters around, they being low key racist lol red hair is more rare then a skin color. but they making all gingers into African Americans instead. Sus.
The problem is that the Disney people think kids are just "little adults". Hence the hyper realistic animals. Kids are not little adults, however. They need simpler visuals, simpler stories. Those animals probably terrified most children, LOL
Kids remember colors, vibrant characters and catchy music.This is more geared toward adults, which people will forget in a few years or less. Nothing stands out like much of the movie remakes today.
-Hated the scary shark scene for a kids movie. -Totally agree Ariel creeping up the rock was odd. -No chemistry between Ariel and Eric!!! The kiss the girl part felt odd. In the cartoon Ariel wanted to be kissed, but in the ‘23 version she didn’t really seem interested. -Eric looks just like he did in the cartoon. If they changed Ariel they should have changed him. -The parent thing felt off Ursula was a 10/10 for me. 😊
They took out Eric's shining moment? Wow. So much for "equality". Ariel saves Eric after the storm but Eric can't also show his bravery and save Ariel in her time of need? Eric can't have a moment to show that his love for Ariel is more than skin deep? To show that he's willing to go up against terrible odds in a situation he doesn't fully understand (he's got no idea about the deal between Ariel and Ursula) all to prove that he really does care about her. Eric can't have that? You were way too generous, Amala on your anti-woke score. I wouldn't have given that category more than a 10 after such a *ahem* d1ck-less move by Disney. The original movie was about Ariel, clearly, but it's also about the man she loves. What is so wrong with showing that the man she loves is actually a decent and worthy man for her? Do woke women really need to be so "empowered" that they man they might want to be with has nothing of quality to offer? Is that man just supposed to be an animated dummy? Men thrive on being the protector, the provider. Strip us of that and you strip away the bulk of our very essence as men. To rob Eric of his shining moment in this version of the movie is to strip Eric of perhaps the defining moment to prove that he is a good and worthy man who won't use and abuse Ariel. Disney didn't give us a prince to root for. They gave us a shell and painted it to look like a man. I do not buy into the whole "representation" crap. I don't need to see a man in a movie to feel "represented". My identity and confidence in who I am is not so weak that I need to see myself in every movie I watch. But to see a movie where they take away a defining moment in the lead male character feels like a slap in the face and an insult to men everywhere.
I read the whole comment, and as a woman I agree. I haven’t seen the new movie, I don’t plan on it because Disney’s newest movies are just.. really bad. But to do that to prince eric just because he’s a guy (the lead guy) is fucked. I watched the original, and it’s just sad because I’m all for independence, but because he’s a man who loves her and wants to prove that, he can’t so Ariel gets to prove herself strong and independent, even though she does like several times in the film no? I’m sorry this was insulting to you all, Disney’s behavior is just… really dumb. Sorry if this was poorly worded I’m not good with putting simple sentences together💀
Exactly! As a woman, I believe that all women should be able to live an "empowered" life, but that will never be an equivalent to living solely on their own powers because life just doesn't work like that. No. You always have to live in harmony with each other, and that should especially be the case with your significant other. Whether it be a guy or a girl, wouldn't you just want the person you chose, you love, and you threw yourself in danger for to also show that kind of loyalty and bravery in times of distress? Yes, I don't want to burden my boyfriend with all the problems in my life, but I do want to believe that if it's a life-and-death situation that I'm facing, I'll be able to trust him to help me because I will do the same for him. That's what love is. Hence, you can't just take everything off of Eric just because he is a man, then shove it all in Ariel's plate. What the heck is that? Your partner literally don't have any reason to really stick around you other than the fact that he makes you "feel happy." That's an expectation for a pet, not a lover. I know when I can be strong and independent, but I also know when to let my guards down and be vulnerable to the person I trust. That's what makes a romantic relationship so strong and special. This depiction of the "woke" couple totally stripped the most precious, essential part of love, which really breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing your opinion.
Or maybe Ariel's mother had been with 6 other different men, by the woke standards, I would assume this is what they were telling you with such diverse mermaids race.
This was not an issue with Percy Jackson. Greek gods being polygamous is part of Greek culture so this version is actually more accurate than the original. Poseidon is NOT married in Greek mythology but he has children. I love Ariel. Her acting without speaking was very good and her singing is the best of any version of Ariel. Oh, yes. Ariel going up the rock was creepy and there were not enough people for a royal palace and town. I also did not like the black female who is referred to as "the king."
I find it amusing that they'd add in things about consent when Ariel and the gang are LITERALLY manipulating Eric into kissing her 😂😂😂 The girl WANTS TO BE KISSED
Thank you! This is what I've always been thinking. She's not asking for his consent - she, along with the sea creatures, sets the scene for manipulation. No one ever has a problem with that!
What disappoints me is the sheer disrespect the crew had for the original. They went out of their way to talk about how superior the remake was over its predecessor and even forced the old VA to defend it, as she said "changes were necessary". These changes ruined the movie and its message. It had me siding with Triton and made Ariel look dumb. Humans not caring much about mermaids somehow made the titular character feel reasonable. But in the remake, her saying "not all humans" is messy and dismissive af. Not to mention the cursed spell that had her avoid Eric as if he was a rabid dog.
I won't even watch it. The whole thing esp with the crappy cgi (esp when you compare it to Wakanda under the ocean scenes and Avatar). It disrespects the original so damn much.
My kids hated it. When Ariel and her sister showed up on screne they all asked "wait how are they all family? None of them look alike" My 8 year old wanted to leave even before the end she said "why did they change so much, they made it stupid"
I'm not understanding the non consent thing. Ariel was trying to kiss him! that was literally her one goal. her team was the one making the suggestion.
Liberal here. I, and every liberal I know, agree 100%. Ariel’s consent was never in doubt. She was actively trying to get him to kiss her, and her friends were trying to get Eric to stop backing away. If anything, he was being gaslit into thinking he wanted to kiss her even if he didn’t. So her consent? The fuckwits who did this movie actually created a problem where there wasn’t one, and the problem is that HIS consent wasn’t considered.
They changed the plot. In the remake Ursula erases her memory too. So she's not trying to get him to kiss her so she can stay human. Can't have girls thinking it's okay for a girl to want to kiss a guy.
@@camillarich So in this one Ursula doesn't just turn into Vanessa so as to ruin Ariel's chances at fulfilling her contract, but she also erases her memory so that she's guaranteed to have Ariel fail at keeping her end of the deal? So Ursula can cheat her way into getting what she wants but God forbid she sang about how men supposedly like women who keep their mouths shut.
The tale of the Little Mermaid is Danish to begin with. In the original book, H.C. Andersen constantly describes the whiteness of the protagonist. I don't remember if she also has blonde hair. In Disney's case she was called "Ariel" because in the book she had no name, and the artist Glen Keane decided to design her as a redhead because he was a bit fed up with blonde mermaids. His design was accepted and that's how she stayed. Therefore, Disney's Ariel is a redhead. And although the story is set in a place where Caucasian people predominate, we can be flexible in the diversity of ethnicities in the fantasy sea world: could there be mermaids of different races? Sure, why not? And in the same TV series that Disney made in the 90's, as a friend of Ariel we have a little brown mermaid with afro features, and who is also deaf and mute. An excellent way to make inclusion. In fact, Halley Bailey could have played that character and no one would have complained. The problem is that Halley was cast as ARIEL. Could Disney have made a new movie with afro mermaids? Absolutely, and it would have been interesting to see, but the problem is that this singer played ARIEL!!! They only called her in to make her a "shield against critics". I feel sorry for Halley, (who I would have preferred to see as Tiana or Moana or Nanny). Why doesn't Disney have the guts to grab African tales with their beautiful folckor and turn them into movies. Marvel's Black Panther did work because that's what the characters are like. We wouldn't tolerate a blond Black Panther because it DOESN'T GO. Why do they have to take tales of European, or Danish, or Nordic origin, and forcibly change them to be inclusive? They destroy the essence and the folklore of those stories! Are they afraid to put in a purely Caucasian cast? I come back to the question, why don't they take the best African, or Arab, or Egyptian, or Hindu stories/mythologies and fill them with a cast entirely of those ethnicities? Do they think they won't succeed in doing so? Then they are the racists.
I think they're SLOWLY working on that. Yeah, maybe they are afraid. But look at Princess and the Frog. That's a white character in the book, but the made BOTH Tiana and Naveen black, and it was beautiful. Maybe they do feel safer starting out with "white" princess/heroine fairytales, they are more mainstream. We as a society maybe need to promote POSITIVELY that we want other/more/different fairytales. No screaming or negativity I think we don't want diversity WITHIN the movie anymore, but just diverse STORIES. Like Encanto, that was cool. Very Spanish/Mexican. And please, don't assume they're racists just cuz they haven't done this fast enough.
Red stands out more in the ocean setting as well. So it worked for the animation. It's amusing how the cg cartoon for babies they made based off this they not only gave Black Ariel the hyper red that she should have had in this movie instead of the boring brown (with ever so slight tint of red sometimes). Not to mention the braids, which don't move interestingly in water. Not that it would've looked good if they gave her long straight hair. The cg is... something. AND they made her father black in that *and* Ursula black. They couldn't even make their cg show cohesive with their "diverse" live action movie. It's less diverse lmao It's so goofy.
There are so many wealthy black people in Hollywood that are talented and creative. Why don’t they come up with their own stories/movies portraying people of color in the way they want to be seen?
This movie was made by white people wanting to be the saviors of black people. Lin Manuel is the only "diverse" addition because apparently their activism doesn't translate to behind the scenes jobs for people of color.
Probably because it doesn’t sell like Eurocentric themed films. Some and probably most films with black characters are mostly popular amongst our own culture unfortunately. There are so many black lead and written films that I haven’t even heard just bc it’s not pushed out like the other films, you’d have to dig for some of them. There are black writers writing books of African fantasy or stories with characters that are black. Hopefully they get the attention they deserve for potential movies in the future. It’s sad we have to make a big deal of content having black characters or culturally themed just so something gets it’s name out there.
In the original she saves him then he saves her, they are equals. Ursula s lies to Ariel in the original are valuable to show how convincing and confusing deciet can be. Ariel is a master mariner and horse handler without ever having to learn or practice. Most of all Eric is useless, how else do you describe a man incapable of protecting the woman he loves
@@williammiller6330 I find your wording is interesting. You said "don't" at first which mean men can but DON'T want to. Then later on you said 'Can't as if to soften the blow. My guy, just say you don't want to protect your woman
"Ariel is a master mariner and horse handler without ever having to learn or practice." if you're referring to the scene when they went on a date or whatever, that was already in the original (specifically the part with the horse). So I'm not sure how this is a criticism of the remake. I don't think the original was supposed to be realistic so the mariner thing can be looked past too.
not everything needs to be verbalised, in adult settings at least, consent can be understood and transmitted through social cues. but with this political climate, I somewhat see both sides of making consent more concrete. in a kids movie, the emphasis was a bit weird, but at least it introduces them to some of the social cultural issues in discourse today (arguable if they need to be given socio-cultural messages in the first place, without establishing and letting them navigate newfound values and ideas in the first place)
I know! I get that sometimes women have problems with guys just going up and hitting on them or trying to make sexual advances toward them but Ariel and Eric should have developed the entire film and made it obvious that they have feelings towards each other. Also I feel like a guy can look at a girl's face when he is getting closer and see if she wants to or not. Haven't seen the movie so idk if this is completely accurate.
My biggest issue with this movie is to think Disney would have never ever have considered choosing a white actress to portray a character imagined as anything other than a "white girl".God forbide we have a "white" Jasmine, from Aladdin, or a "white" Pocahontas, or a "white" Tiana in a live action of these movies. But yeah, totaly ok to completely change the whole story and its characterizations if it is about a white character. All for the sake of equality and representativity and whatever...
Hey so mermaids are mythical creatures! Ariel is based off mythical creature that doesn’t have a race. All the women you named are all women of color whose colors matter in their stories and you know that, which is why you said their names. Anyone race can play Ariel but not any race can play Jasmine, Tiana, or Pocahontas.
@@mastershifter4495 Regardless of Ariel being based on a mythicall creature she was originally characterized as a "white girl" and it's obvious her skin colour as well as other aspects of the movie were changed with the solo purpose of meeting an specific political agenda. Also the author who idealized Ariel was a white man and if Disney was really interested in representativity, wouldn’t it make sense to keep Ariel as a white woman in honor of the author’s culture and origins as the they did in the lion king live action with a cast composed only of black skin performers? Shouldn’t representativity encompass all races? Or is the media trying to comunicate some races are more relevant that others? Because that’s what I see in what Disney’s been doing in their productions lately. Disney is more than capable of creating original stories to fit different races and skin colours and bring in more representativity to the big screen if that was their sincere goal. But they are trying to change the stories already told instead, imposing a ridiculous ideology, in my opinion, that aims to divide rather than integrate. It’s always white against black, men against women, heteros against lgbtqiapn+… And I can't help but wonder where that is suppose to lead us.
You have to ask for affirmative verbal consent to kiss the girl that stalked you and gave up her voice to an octopus witch just to be able to get near you.
Eric should have asked for consent...even though Ariel was the one who was trying to kiss Eric without HIS consent - and he clearly looked uncomfortable at first when she leaned in, which prompted the song in the first place.
Truly. Thank you for creating my #1 favorite film as a child. I've met John Musker a couple times (very nice person). I would love to hear his thoughts regarding this film.
@@missmerbella yea Musker was personally trained by Frank Thomas, so his advice was always gold. It was kinda scary since Mermaid was taking a chance. But when we heard some of music scores, many really felt we had something.
That’s awesome that you worked on the original! 😍 Thank you so much for creating such a masterpiece. Can you please tell us what all you did and any cool BTS details? That would be so interesting! Thank you 😊
I saw elsewhere someone point out that the plot problem created by taking away Prince Eric saving the day and giving to Ariel instead was that it was Prince Eric risking his life to save Ariel that convinced King Triton that not all humans were bad. So by changing that scene, King Triton now changes his mind about humans for no particular reason.
@@muraismybby4617 Within the decade of the 2010s, the word woke (the colloquial, passively voiced past participle of wake) obtained the meaning 'politically and socially aware' among BLM activists.(Google).But it has transitioned into this mess of accepting transgender and black peoples in movies like the little Mermaid,trying to erase the ORIGINAL and if you don’t like it,you racist.
@@Khloe_dancer_model Did it? Or did y’all DECIDE it means that? Also u a grown ass person crying about a movie for kids , is crazy get yo big ass on somewhere
Yes! I agree with all that you said. They shouldn't take things out from the original. They should've enhanced it. It is a good film, but it feels too different. (in multiple aspects like you mentioned) I feel like the best live action princess movie in Cinderella. That was really well done!
Sad reality is that we've gone from many of the best family movies to 'it wasn't the worst'. I'd take off more points in general due to lower expectations
That's what it feels like for certain Disney movies now. And when I watched GotG, Spider Verse, Puss in Boots, was I genuinely amazed or was it better than those other movies that I viewed it as top tier?
The fact that Eric saves Ariel at the end is a parallel in reference to when she saves him at the beginning of the movie and that is something that comes out as reciprocal because, with their actions, they are showing each other that they care for one another. It was the closure of a plot cycle. Taking it away and making Ariel save him twice doesn't show dynamism and it becomes repetitive and bland at the same time
I mean, people can care about each other in more ways than just saving their life. Eric treated Ariel like a guest,showed her around and made her happy. Can't that be enough?
All fathers want their daughter to be married to a guy that can protect and fight for their daughter, in this movie they removed it. Ariel always yeah saves her man haha.
I’m a feminist, but honestly, saving ourselves & trying to be badass’s ALL the time is exhausting 😂 The sexy protector trope (like Witcher) is fiiiiiine with me 😏
I am Latin American, I speak Spanish as my first language, but sadly, the sect of extreme feminism is in all languages. The truth is, I understand more those men who prefer to be alone.
I believe in equality, but I think so many people are taking on the "bada$$" type now, that it's pretty much become a cliche. I've met way more women that try to act tough and bad-a than I meet the soft, gentle and loving type now. Not saying you can't be both. But most of the ones I've met just seem more ready to fight than love. (I'm also a woman) And I mean like...hair pulling, over-the-top cussing, and just...flat up wild. Is anyone calm in this day and age or did we all just snap? lmao
Poor Ariel. The rules of swaps are really easy: 1) Any male role can be swapped to female. Female roles cannot be swapped to male, unless it's part of an overall swap (such as Chris Hemsworth in Ghostbusters 2016). 2) Any white character can be swapped to any other ethnicity. No other ethnicity can be swapped to white. Also, once a character is swapped from white, that character can never be white ever again. 3) Diverse means not-white. It's okay to have all characters be any other ethnicity, but an all-white cast is not allowed.
I don't understand why they just didn't make a spin-off of one of Ariel's sisters. The sister's really are named after the seas. They could of made an amazing new mermaid for little girls to love. The sisters could of had different mothers. They could of made it something about her feeling left out and adventuring into the world find herself or some bull. 1. Never said she had to be white. 2. I'm a hick so I text how speak, so sorry if my bad grammar offends you. Plus I don't tend to go back and make sure I have proper grammar. Just type and send. 3. If they had made a spin-off of a different sister who was black she would of had a different mother than the other sisters. Because you know.......genetics.
I said this so many times when this first came out. Why CHANGE an existing character when you already have one - they could have easily adapted one or all of her sisters and made this work. She had a black sister (or friend?) in the original that we knew basically nothing about. If you want romance what if she met and fell in love with an half-octopus man like Ursula? Heck, why can’t we get Ursula’s backstory?! She’s King Tridents SISTER!! Talk about weird genetic anomalies!
Should, could, would. When you decide to fund a mermaid movie, you can make the movie you suggested. This argument sounds like the Black people who argue about why they don't make Black Jesus films. When they decide to fund their own Black Jesus films, they can do whatever they choose. What difference is your should, could, would make right now?
9:30 - 9:20 A couple of notes on the consent topic; 1. They dramatically changed the plot of the entire film by omitting Ariel's knowledge that kissing the prince was part of the contract. Now whether or not they did that just to make a scenario where consent needs to be asked, in any case it's f**king stupid! If anything, Ariel should be the one asking for consent in the original, as it's her who not only wants but requires the kiss! 2. I'm really looking forward to going in cinema to watch the Snow White remake and laugh at the confused look on the stupid woke lefts faces when the film ends with Prince Charming asking for Snows consent to kiss her, and her being doomed to an eternal slumber because she's unable to answer him 😂
Didn’t they just redo Snow White a few years ago though…? I like Snow White, it’s a neat story, but that feels like overload (Cinderella, too). Can we do a different fairy tale please? I can think of some Really great dark and scary ones! Also, Disney, where is my 12 Dancing Princesses? Love that story, always am waiting for that one
Prince Charming was Cinderella's prince, Snow White's prince was Florian. Even if Ariel forgets about the deal of getting a kiss from Eric would get her legs forever, isn't she attracted to Eric? Why wouldn't she want to kiss the guy she's attracted to? It's stupid writing really.
@@williammiller6330 The German original actually goes like this: The prince doesn't want the coffin to remain in the forest and asks the dwarves to carry it to his castle. One of the dwarves stumbles upon a root, causing the coffin to jolt, which makes Snow White cough up the apple. The prince would not have kissed a dead body. He just got lucky.
there is a Russian version of snow white where the princess and prince already know each other before the story starts and he starts looking for her straight away going everywhere and when he finds her sleeping it doest look as creepy that he kisses her cause they already engaged and know about it, also she doesn't hang out with dwarves but 7 military brothers
Fun facts: In the original Danish fairy tale, by Hans Christian Andersen, the little mermaid is described as having, "white hands", "lovely white arms" and a "pretty pair of white legs". Furthermore, illustrations clearly show her as a young, white girl.
Coming late because I was waiting for it to come out on Disney Plus. I felt like they made Ariel saving Eric make sense. He was swirling around in hurricane waters unable to breathe. Just trying to stay alive. Ariel is able to breathe under water again and therefore when she passes the boat under water, she has her faculties and oxygen and can problem solve during this intense moment. I LOVE the lines in Ursula's song that they took out just because they go reason today so you really get a sense of how disgusting this villain is. I was a bit disappointed that the sculpture of the man wasn't Eric.
Thank you for calling out that creepy rock crawl! They were many of us just flabbergasted at this scene! Did Disney not watch the scene and see how stupid it looked?! Even my 10 year spotted it and questioned it!
I'm so glad she mentioned this! I was immediately uncomfortable and felt awkward during that scene. I got Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction vibes and it was very out of place.
The little mermaid 1989 version is one of the most visually beautiful movies Disney has ever made!!! the fact that they darkened this movie is just depressing!!
It's so ironic that in "Kiss The Girl", the entire motive of the scene and the song is to push Eric into kissing Ariel. She clearly loves him and wants him to kiss her, but she can't speak, plus Eric only recognizes the *voice* of the girl he fell in love with, so he's reluctant to kiss this random lady who does not speak, regardless of how much she throws herself at him. Meanwhile, a band of fish sets up the mood to encourage him to do it. If anything, Eric should be the one being asked for consent. But the idea of a man being shy and not invasive over a woman's space is so inconceivable to some people they just twist it around in their heads. There was nothing wrong with the song lyrics, there was nothing wrong with the original, and that live action as a great waste of time and resources
Right? It was so obvious, especially the scene that was shown here. Ariel is leaning in and ready to kiss. Eric also leans in but pulls away because he isn't sure and HE IS THE ONE BEING PRESSURED. So many of us knew this as a kid so I'm not sure why it's about Ariel's consent when she clearly just wants to be with him and kiss him.
As soon as she gets on land and tries to speak to Eric, even the dumbest kids understood she had been duped... and that her voice and her personality was what would ultimately lead to them being together.
The original “kiss the girl” isn’t problematic. It’s about Eric not daring to kiss Ariel even though she’s giving him all the signals. Girls like confidence, girls don’t like when you’re insecure and have to ask. But the consent-part is why he’s hesitant. He doesn’t KNOW if he should do it, even though everything is telling him this is the moment to do it. And for that matter, is it really so bad if a guy tries to kiss you on a date? Is “awkward” so horrible a feeling that it should trump every moment of genuine romance?
Well, I feel like you shouldn't grab a person and kiss them but if the moment calls for it you can lean in for a kiss and give them time to avoid you/step back/turn away. That said, I don't have a problem with being asked for the first time either, I don't think it shows lack of confidence. In the movie they are in romantic situation, she's leaning in for a kiss, consent can be given non-verbally.
@@reginalannister2262 That’s what I’m saying, non-verbal consent. Most times when you’re in a budding relationship, you feel when the time is right, you’re getting closer to each other, start talking softly, with your lips almost getting magnetic. That’s the most obvious thing ever, but it’s happened. My last gf and I, we had something different. She doesn’t touch people usually, but she was ok with my touch, after a while, when I was crouched down looking for a movie for us, she put her hand on my back, and I instantly knew she liked me. I started making more dramatic moves to see how she’d react, and she responded well to my advances, as I already knew from that hand on my back. Some signals are easy to read, others not so much.
Ariel doesn’t save Eric twice but FOUR times in this version: 1. She saved him when the ship went down. 2. She saved him by breaking Ursula’s spell when he was bewitched. 3. She saved him when Flotsam and Jetsam went after him. 4. She saved him by killing Ursula instead of him doing it.
@@3seren No. In the original, Eric kills Ursula proving to Triton that Ariel chose the right man and that her love for him was not foolish. Most importantly, it showed that humans could be good and caring. Eric not only saved The king’s daughter but also Triton’s entire kingdom (including six other daughter of his).
Was he really under her spell tho? I was so confused cause the entire time after getting “spelled” he looked conscious but just a little confused. In the original you can tell he is spelled because he doesn’t even say anything when Ariel and the other sea creatures appear to attack Venessa. He is looks robotic. But like in the new version…. I kept forgetting he was spelled because he seemed more conscious than in the other movie…… that part was a miss for me TvT
So ariel is black and her father is white ?💀 also they only decided to race swap the main character and her only ? how is the the prince or her father not black ? 🤣🤣so you're telling me all this is for diversity and not controversy ? c'mon Disney , people aren't that stupid .
Melissa McCarthy/Jessica Alexander as Ursula/Vanessa. Vanessa is Ursula's "human form". I think it's a shame they took away Eric's moment. Not only is it iconic, but it's the only time in the original film where HE rescues her -- a human defending a mermaid in a universe where they're supposed to be enemies. Ariel rescues him from drowning, and then from marrying Ursula/Vanessa. Him rescuing her is like everything coming full circle.
I just learned a few days ago that when the writers that did the writing for the original animation, they were really having fun discussing and combining ideas with Eric fighting Ursula, basically the two scenes they took were the moment that Eric harpooned Ursula and killed her with the ship later with the lightening coming down on her, which later became an epic scene of how a Disney villain went down. It was also the ending that made sense if you think about what do you need to steer a boat.
I'm glad you touched on the fact that Ursula is lying to Ariel when trying to convince Ariel to stay quiet. That's a resonating theme throughout Disney movies - the villains always try to mislead young people. Taking that away is almost like saying, "people are too dumb to see through this." The body language thing is supposed to be salacious and I'm convinced it was put in to give the adults something to guffaw about, and to keep them awake while watching a children's movie. Ariel saves Eric in the original film, and he saves her. It was a nice balance of teamwork against a common foe. In the original, Ariel is not focused on finding a man. She's all about the world on land. She happens to see Eric and is smitten, which then becomes a focus, but initially it's all about forks and feet and dancing and the grass is greener. That leads me to the consent for kissing. The One boy who asked me if it was okay to kiss me was Also an Eric. I caught him molesting my cat with a q-tip when she was in heat. I'm going to say asking for permission to get a kiss isn't exactly a marker by which to judge character. 🤷♀
She literally took her voice because Mermaids have a "siren song" that is said to bewitch men so if she had a voice , he would have fallen for her and kissed her immediately....She was just making up an excuse to explain away what she was doing...
“Eric never asked for consent” It’s Ariel who should be asking for consent, not Eric. She’s quite literally trying to seduce Eric throughout the movie so she can get her kiss and stay human. Have these people even watched the original movie?
what they SHOULD have addressed in the new movie is how Ariel can write but never bothers to send Eric a letter, thats the only change hat should have been added
Yes!!! 100% agree on her crawling up the rock for the "part of your world" was so off. Maybe it was the cgi, but I think it was the timing... Idk, I liked the non-animated animals lol. At first Sebastian scared me, but when you think about his animated coutnerpart being a human head coming out of a crab, I am okay with the live-action version.
You are the only person who picked up on ariel killing ursua is a major switch and i believe it is a major misstep. yes it give her, her agency, but she'd already saved eric from drowning. This original scene gave eric a chance to repay the debt and to prove to Triton that surface dwellers are not all even and he earns his right to be more than beefcake and be worthy of the princess.
The actual audience score on rotten tomatoes with 25,000+ reviews (instead of 5,000+ VERIFIED reviews) is 57% at the moment. So that's perfectly in line with Amala's rating.
Many scenes were gone. The scene when she became human without voice, she was very curious and cheerful with many things. That was the funniest scene in the cartoon.
Adults always manage to ruin children's movies, like what child cares about ariels skin colour or anything? All they want is vibey upbeat music and colours.
The point of Ursula singing about women shutting up is she’s SUPPOSED to be wrong. They’re teaching kids to be dumb and not use their critical thinking?? When I was a kid I knew I couldn’t trust Ursula and anything she says. Let kids think!!
They legit should've just stuck to the friggin original movie. It is, and will always be, better than any "woke crap" they're pushing on folks now days.
It's getting out of hand how they feel the need to "race swap" everything too.
And not in a good way either. They tried their best to perpetuate the stereotypical "gangster/ghetto is good and applies if you're black" bs.
If I were black, I'd find that offensive personally.
Black folks can be well spoken, well educated, AND not like rap all the time! Good lord dude..😩
They REALLY screwed the pooch on this "remake" imo.
Agreed. They are doing this intentionally though. Making the villains more likeable because they identify more with the villains than the heroes. My wife pointed this out and I can't unsee it
You poor thing. A product of today's jack society.
Don't cherry pick and twist what was said. She said men don't like a lot of chatter. This is a fact. You're confused because you were raised and programmed in a gynocracy. See if a woman has critical thinking skills then she is also good with interpersonal dynamics. Such a woman then understands things like what men look for generally in a wife. Your EQ and knowledge on the topic are low.
Well...kids today probably will make them their heroe
I couldn’t even understand what she was saying for the most part during that song when I was a kid 😂
"Kiss the Girl" was originally sung by Sebastian because Prince Eric was too shy or reluctant to kiss her and, of course, to break the curse he needed to kiss the girl. There was never a question of him forcing himself on her so the whole idea is ridiculous!
And ariel probably would have understood the lyrics, come to think of it
I understood this as a child. I asked, and every person I Know thought the same as children themselves.
Adults are dumber than kids!
I always thought that was the plan, Sebastian was singing to give Eric courage to kiss Ariel to break the curse. Something he and Ariel agreed on to help her. I’m genuinely not wasting my time with this. Disney is doing too much.
the song is still in there, and sounds very similar to the original. same tune. just the same romantic feel and they do almost kiss. i don’t see the issue.
Literally the lyrics sing “shalalalalala DONT BE SHY” they took something innocent and made it sinister in their minds.
The whole point of Ursula telling Ariel, “It’s she who holds her tongue that gets a man” was to convince her that she wouldn’t need her voice anyway. It was to persuade Ariel to make the deal so that Ursula could further manipulate her. She was lying to Ariel. You know, like a villain.
and a reason to get Ariel's voice for herself so she can seduce Eric because without it she would have had 0 chance - Disney need to re-watch their classics
I also like to point out the time period it depitcs. Like women of the era of high nobility and big dresses were usually all of those things! Like be "lady like" and all that jazz. That's how I've always interpreted those lines
I just don't get the nonsense, I grew up knowing all of the songs verbatim and my husband could tell you I'm a force. I do not hold my tongue 😂
@@Levi-xq5ld the giant poofy sleeves and big skirts are telling me 1830s. 1830s is right before the start of the Victorian era, so female leadership was extremely hit or miss. You'd have certain jobs that were dominated by women (example: dress making wasn't taken over by men until the end of the Victorian era with people like Worth).
So, I see what you're saying, but I think OP is right -- the point was Ursula lying to Ariel to manipulate her.
King Triton was a rolling stone. Where he laid his crown was his home.
"Eric doesn't ask Ariel's consent to kiss her" it's statements like this one that shows just how little some people care about the truth and how they just want to complain about something. In the animated film ARIEL tries to kiss him first and Eric actually pulls back, then at the end of the song they both go in for the kiss at the same damn time.
Even in real life no one asks for consent to be kissed by their crush or partner. Like if I went on a date with a guy that I really liked and he really liked me and it was SO obvious that in the moment of him leaning in to kiss me he goes “Ma’dam I may request your consent to press my lips against yours” I’d be like “dude what??” Like it kinda ruins the moment LOL
@@KattKitt22 its all about non-verbal communication. my advice to fellow bros: its all in the eyes. Asking "can I kiss you" spoils the moment.
@@xxMpEGxx 100% true that it’s all in the eyes! If we want a guy to kiss us we will generally look very happy/excited and there’s like a twinkle in our eyes or if you catch us looking more at your lips. You can also tell that we want to kiss you by being more touchy or trying to be closer to you (ex: leaning in closer, sitting closer to you etc). If you don’t see any of these signs, do not kiss us. If you’re unsure and you still go in for the kiss, well I guess you’ll get your answer quickly 😂
@@KattKitt22 nah girl, you blew it
@@xxMpEGxx No it doesn’t? You can simply ask someone if you can kiss them. I don’t understand how people think this is weird.
I hate that they took those manipulative lines from Ursula. They're how you know she's the VILLAIN🤦♀️
Everyone already knows she is a villain. Ya'll always want to complain about something
@@jemelmancho3416 then stop stealing other people's work lol
@stevenmorrison5321 It's Disney's own work. Who's work are they stealing? People are able to redraw their own art. I rewrite my old stories all the time
@@jemelmancho3416 but it was disneys own work, yes Walt came up with the designs of the characters and how the strip will go but it was loosely changed from the original story of Hans Christian Andersen
@@jemelmancho3416 Little mermaid isn't Desney's to begin with. It's not original, it's just more childish version of Andersen's story. I don't think they technicly "stole" it thuogh since it was published in 1837 but there's nothing to be too proud off - none of their most well known movies are original but cover versions of famous stories
Ariel saved Eric's life and then he saved hers. Not only he got to return the favor but with that gesture he proved to king Triton that not all humans were bad. But alas, the live action film took that away :(
It makes sense that Ariel save him
And Ariel saved him twice in the original; by saving him from drowning and later by pulling Ursula's hair when she was going to pulverize him.
@@Mitsu2040 And Eric saved Ariel twice in the original; by grazing Ursula with a harpoon just before she struck Ariel with the trident and at the end with the epic Ursula death scene.
Yeah they turned the movie in a joke for woke agenda. The man gets portayed again as solely incompetent while the woman is the girl boss. The whole movie is just cringe.
Triton was turned into a monster in the original for a reason. Killing him in the remake has created a massive problem. Like hey kids, your parents approval doesn’t matter. Arial and Eric got together without Triton’s approval :D
In the original, Eric was the only one that needed consent. Ariel was putting out every signal to be kissed. That's just nonsense.
Putting out every signal? That's what boys say when they touch women inappropriately. I had it happen SOO many times as a young girl and I would be giving NO signals. Can you list her signals? Eye contact means kiss? What are the signals?
Touche 😂
Consent? What a ridiculous woke concept.
@@AquariusTurtle because when you kiss a girl even if they want it then says they did not consent, they label it as r@pe
@@AquariusTurtle
Wut
It's absolutely crazy what they did to Ursula's song. I was a kid when the movie came out and even I knew Ursula was lying. 🙄 This is proof that youth today (and many adults) couldn't think their way out of a paper bag.
The only reason Ursula mentioned body language and men "not liking a lot of blabber" was because when Ursula asked for her voice, Ariel was hesitant and unsure, so Ursula was trying to convince her that men *prefer* silent women, manipulating Ariel into thinking not having a voice wasn't an issue and that she could easily win Eric over with just her body language alone.
Not to dispute you, but both movies do show Eric falling for the "silent" Ariel. Had she been able to speak, he wouldn't have gotten to know her the way that he did. After all, he was searching for his lovely-sounding "savior". That created an instant bias on his part. So, with Ariel's silence, Eric got to fall for her without prejudice. Remember how the sound of Ariel's singing almost got him to marry the wrong person?
@@vitasporan566 Eric was waiting out for the girl who saved him and was practically pressured into choosing voiceless Ariel by Sebastian with Kiss the Girl and the Butler, because "she's real and right here, unlike your dream girl". Even when failing for Ariel, with spending time with her and learning about all her wacky quirks, he was still holding out because of the girl who saved him. The one with the voice.
And Ursula was brain washing Eric. He had no choice in "almost marrying the wrong girl". She didn't just have Ariel's voice, she had magic.
@@vitasporan566 He was intrigued by her, she was unique to him .He would have liked Ariel either way even if she had talked.
@@vitasporan566 I mean yes but that's not really my point though. I'm talking about why Ursula was talking about body language, not if Eric could fall for a silent Ariel or not, which he obviously did. But like I said Ursula was manipulating Ariel so talking about something else she had available to her was one way to do it. Also Ursula was surprised when Eric almost kissed Ariel so she hadn't thought Ariel would manage without her voice; I believe that was why she took her voice to begin with since that's how Eric would have recognized her.
That is true! He kept from wanting to kiss her because he was looking for the girl who was singing when she saved him. When she got her legs, she didn't speak and yes, Ursula said this to convince Ariel to give up her voice.
It's sad how they are considering romance toxic. Eric and Ariel love story is super sweet.
I agree
Well in the brother's grim tales version, he mistook his savior for another woman and ended up marrying her lol. It's not funny but the trouble she went through trying to get this man's attention only to marry someone else....mhm.
@@Ifaeya there's an important life lesson in there
Only if they’re straight ☝️ remember that
Thanks to Disney, Romance is dead. What's funny to me is half the people who changed the movie and produced this thing are married! Lol imagine?
The changes for the "modern world" didn't make sense for the story overall. Ariel saves herself right? Eric saving her was important because King Triton hated humans and didn't trust them. Due to Eric saving his daughter, he understood that maybe he was wrong and not all humans are the same.
They worked together. Eric distracted Ursula while Ariel made the kill. I liked it. It was a man and a woman working together to get the job done.
yeah but now he will believe that humans are a bunch of weak men that his daughter can boss around
@@tfd92 The original cartoon they actually worked together. This one, Eric barely does anything and Ariel who has never steered a ship a day in her life, takes down Ursula all by herself. The remake was so much worse than the original.
@@penmaster003 in the original Ariel did nothing.
This actually makes a lot of sense. It would be confusing if her dad was around ❤
My only issue with Halley Bailey is they didn't make her hair red enough. Wouldn't have been difficult at all. Unforgiveable. Melissa McCarthy is solid gold brilliant as always.
that part! a red velvet shade would’ve looked AMAZING on halle
@@-valmetal-My sentiments exactly!
This sadly goes against their diversity agenda. Take the daughters - every one representing a different part of the ocean. Our race-swapped main protagonist represents the Caribbean. In their mind it would be a disservice to diversity to give her red flowing hair instead of sticking to the stereotype. See, they can manipulate fantasy stories by race swapping a certain way, but no way can they change real world characteristics if the established character has features representative of their race.
Same because I swear her hair was RED red in some pics where she was just walking in public
Me sneaking onto set to dye her locs red whilst she’s asleep: 🥷🏼🫗👩🏾🦰 “don’t worry bb I gotchu”
Even at 8 years old I understood Ursula was lying to Ariel by telling her men don't like women who speak. That she said that just so it would actually be MORE difficult for Ariel to communicate with Eric. Looks like children are smarter than some adults.
And so Ariel would be like I guess I don’t need it but ursula just wanted to sing like her and be pretty 🤣
Petty ass lol
36 year old man, here. Never understood why men say they don't like women to speak. I cannot personally handle a quiet woman. I need a woman who speaks, a lot. Maybe even too much. It's just easier for my personality to have a woman who is very talkative.
Disney must think that kids are much dumber nowdays or something
"Looks like children are smarter than some adults." Yeah, they usually are, because they can see through the BS.
@@Icemario87 as a soon to be 25 year never once heard a regular man talk about not wanting a women to speak, we as men complain more about women lack of communication and mix signals. I have seen some weirdos(very few) talk about women should only speak when spoken too but those people are usually clowned for having such a dumb opinion.
Ariel rescues Eric in the beginning in the original, so she's hardly a damsel. Eric facing off against a sea witch, something completely outside his experience, risking his life and playing to his strengths to save Ariel showed how much he loved her. The message to me as a kid was it's OK to need and accept help from people who love you. And they both rescued each other during the film which is something couples do for the one they love to support one another. Just another thing about the original they ruined for "mOdErN aUdIeNcEs"
I can't not hear "mOdErN aUdIeNcEs" in the drinker's echoing voice
@@n3tw0rk_n3k0 same! That's what I was thinking about when I wrote that, lol.
That’s because modern audiences are too stupid to think for themselves. They’re getting very smooth brained these days. Love the Drinker nod!
Sometime I wonder how big is the actual population of the "mOdErN aUdIeNcEs". Most audience doesn't even want this type of garbage, it's always the producer or director trying to push their agenda that want these things to be made. The types of people that was hired because of "diversity hiring" instead of their actual talents
@@n3tw0rk_n3k0 wow same
I like Eric saving Ariel in the end better. It was very balanced that way. She saves him in her element (in the ocean when he almost drowns), and he saves her in his element (on a ship). They both feel at home on/in the sea and they use there unique skills regarding their relationship with the sea to help and save each other.
Exactly!
Plus, Eric risking his life was what made Triton change his mind about humans... that whole character growth was lost!
Men are supposed to sit and look pretty in new Disney era.
I disagree. It’s not a Co protagonist case like in Tangled; Ariel’s meant to be the protagonist and it makes a big deal out of her foolishly rushing into Ursula’s deal. But at the end, it was Triton who went through the big character ark and made the sacrifice, then Eric beat the big bad. She didn’t get much to do in her own film.
It’d be like if Jasmine did everything at the end of Aladdin. Eric could have been involved and helped, but Ariel should have defeated Ursula. But it should have been something that made sense to her character ark, it shouldn’t have just swapped Eric for her
@@aikikaname6508 You know, I read a novel adaptation of the Little Mermaid where she defeats the sea witch herself, but the prince protects her from the witch’s human allies. It’s quite good.
Disney likes to call them “live action” even though 85% of the movie is CGI. 🤔
I find it so depressing that Ariel has to save Eric twice & defeat Ursula herself. So now we're teaching women they have to do it all themselves and not to expect anything from their partners? Why would she even want to be with Eric anymore when he's gone from a person who will fight by her side to one sitting on the sidelines?
Exactly. And in real life people wonder why men aren‘t Holding doors anymore and stuff.
You know I‘m a Single mother and have to do Everything By myself all the freaking time. Do I want To see strong and Independent women in movies all the time? Nope. I do that in real life already.
Can‘t there just be NORMAL people in there??? One time a Woman saves the day, another time the man. That would be equal. Now it‘s just overcompensating.
a woman couldn't save anyone its just unrealistic
Guys this is a kids movie. Kids won’t notice shit like this
And besides should we return to the good old days where women couldn’t do anything and had to be depended on their man,is that what you want sis? Like y’all are trying to find any reason to hate in the movie just bcs she’s black
@@PattisKarriereKartenso submissive housewives are normal women? The majority of women isn’t like that even more
They tried to make ursula woke? The whole point of poor unfortunate souls was how wrong she was. She's the villian you're not supposed to listen to her.
Yup the whole point is that Ursula was using these same tactics to emotionally and mentally manipulate merfolk to sell their souls to her.
I just saw the movie today. The changes in the songs were barely noticeable. People are freaking out over very minimal lyric changes and honestly no one would be saying anything if the writers didn't say they changed it
She wasn’t wrong either
@@cynthiahembree3957 Exactly, she's the aquatic version of the devil. Course that seems to be a god in Hollywood and woke culture now, so...makes sense.
I didn’t even notice any lyric changes
One of my biggest issues with changing the ending of the original is that you negate the change that comes over King Triton regarding his opinion of humans. Eric doesn’t just save Ariel by killing Ursula, he ends up saving King Triton and all of the mermaids and mermen she held captive. And by the end we see all the merpeople up top for the wedding, indicating a change in policy regarding humans has taken place. King Triton even gives a nod to Eric indicating respect and trust as he lets his daughter go live her life with him. This, like all the other woke changes, just shows a lack of understanding of the original movie in this cult-like adherence to making every female character a “girl boss.”
true, that's the problem with almost all critics on old disney movies by woke people, like cinderella was dumb and just run after a prince, or ariel only wants a man too... or aurora and so on.... they completely miss the moral of the story like thing in all old disneys, and that the characters often had a deep desire for something in the first place... before they fell in love.... ariel was always interested in humans and a curious rebellious mermaid falling in love was just the icing on all the other wished she had, and Cindy.. she wanted just to be free from her horrible familiy and be happy again, and so on ,,, all the girls had their own problems or terrible sad backround stories to deal with and were still not giving up... so why do we need this girlboss shit?? the girls are already boss without this poor cheap new storytelling. and it's sad that nowadays young adults are not getting it what this movies want to teach us but our generation (80/90) understood it even as children... like everyone here said.. we knew ursula was lying and didn't thought about oh wait that's not a correct way to describe a woman..... wth
Ikr. It's so annoying that I hear the actresses of Disney princesses all claiming that they "don't need to be saved" to the point that it looks scripted
@@nightmelody436 I was born like a decade or two later but I grew watching these movies and growing up, I get to see more meaning behind certain things Disney put in their movies. In conclusion, it's really just about the audience who aren't educated enough to appreciate what we give
OH MY GOSH LITERAL FAXTS!
In the original ending the mermaid commits suicide.
Its worse then that! By having Eric not save Ariel, they've gutted the main storyline. The whole point was for Trident to relise that not all humans are bad and his prejudices, while understandable with the death of his wife, are still wrong.
Ursula’s song is my favorite villain song of all time, and the lines that they removed were so important to it. That’s her big manipulation factor to get Ariel to give Ursula her voice. The song was written brilliantly in the original movie. What a shame.
Same !!!! Honestly the body language line is brilliant !
Same! I had forgotten the original lyrics, but I was sitting there like, “She didn’t say anything convincing! Why does she turn and tell Flotsam and Jetsam that she’s ‘got her’ when she said nothing persuasive?”
Genes are racist.
It’s like Disney thinks girls are too stupid to understand that Ursula is evil?? Eric fell in love with her voice first so Ursula took it in order to manipulate the whole situation in her favor. C’mon Disney, everyone knows the point, you don’t have to treat us like idiots.
My favourite song in the whole movie.... Like that was the whole point of the movie.
Ariel was fascinated by humans and wanted to be around them way before she met Eric. She just happened to fall in love with him when she saw him and that was the catalyst to push her forward in achieving her dream. There really wasn't anything wrong with the original, people for some reason was only focusing on some parts and ignoring everything else it represented (like Ursula's song).
The whole point of Poor Unfortunate Souls was to manipulate Ariel. It was super clear in the old movie, even when I watched it as a 6 year old. Not everything must be about being a girl boss. Plus, I found it beautiful that Ariel saved Eric from the ship and Eric later saved Ariel from Ursula. It showed that they both loved and cared for each other.
She is the villain of the story, she is SUPPOSED to lie and manipulate. Disney are idiots
Yep, that's entirely the point of those story beats. By having her rescue herself, it eliminates the need for Eric to even exist as a named character
What's ironic to me is they feel the need to adjust these songs but Hellfire totally fine Disney sees nothing wrong with it.
For the record I'm not trying to have them get rid of it. Villains are not people to look up to or believe.
@@MiaogisTeas exactly, in this new movie she is neither hopelessly in love with Prince Eric nor does she need him when she’s in danger so it makes no sense for him to even be there. She could’ve given up her voice to go to the human world and just explore without even including the prince 😂
If anything Eric was the one being manipulated to kiss Ariel. He was hesitant at first and the song was to give him a little push. Besides Ariel's body language spoke louder than words! Girl really wanted her kiss😂
"Eric didn't ask consent!". Really? There is Ariel, Sebastian & co trying to mindtrick Eric into kissing her and they question Eric? If anything, he is the victim of a vile scheme...
😂😂😂😂
I agree
LOL true.
Yes 🤣
Personally I think Eric was just a means to an end the whole time. She wanted those legs first before she ever saw Eric. He was her ticket out!
I think Ariel’s mama was lying. Triton needs a DNA test for those kids 😂😂😂
Yes, I was wondering: did he have a harem, or was the mother the same?
I think Triton killed off his entire harem and told them all their singular "mom" was killed by humans... because he's a sea imperialist who formed a global empire by uniting the 7 seas through marriage, and when objections arose he killed off the other kings and now all the mermaid heirs are his... but they're all girls, which means future political marriages are the only way he can keep his line going, and he's clearly uneasy about the situation, and like Hitler and the reichstag, he blames an outside party for why he rules as an authoritarian, to "protect" them.
It's like, what if Solomon was an emperor who went full GoT.
So we're OK with the whole mermaids being real, Ursula is half octopus, half human, magically transforming people into humans and taking their voice, but Triton can't have daughters with different coloured skin unless he screwed multiple different women? Got it.
@@CarlBramhall ah the classic "nothing matters because its fantasy" defense.
If it doesn't matter to you then why defend the deliberate decision to change it?
Catch 22.
Everyone who actually cares about fiction knows all these things matter. Something being fiction isn't a license to not follow through with the appearance of coherent internal rules. The best fiction is always overlapping reality where possible for the sake of verisimilitude. Going from cartoon, where less verisimilitude is necessary, to live action, nearly always demands an increase in coherence.
Lol on point 🙌🏻😂
So in the animation Ariel wore a stylish sail, a blue corset dress, a stunning pink ballroom gown, a sparkly silver dress and the cherry on top: an angelic white wedding dress. In the live action she just wears the same blue rag all the time and these ankle boots?! I thought she wanted to be part of the human world? Then why didn't she care about the clothes?
Because clothes are literally the least interesting part about being human. She had an entire land to explore! She learned how to walk, ate new food for the first time, danced with the locals, rode a horse, learned half the history of humankind within ONE day and on top of all this you want her to change clothes five times a day? Bro, get a life. Besides, it's obvious from her personality that she is someone who prefers to learn and have fun over trying to look pretty.
@@anna-5104Clothes are not the least interesting part of being human, you could say the same about reading, cooking or painting or anything, clothes and characterization matter
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Not trying to look pretty? Mission accomplished.
@@anna-5104 this gotta be sarcastic. Unless you're one of those unwashed, hairy, unkempt feminists... oh yeah, that's the agenda here
It's even worse when you consider that she's living with royals, they're royals and they're supposed to have the money to get her some more beautiful clothes to wear.
I agree that when Halle was singing behind that rock, I couldnt see “love” in her eyes for the prince. Instead, she looked like she was an assassin 😅
Thats it. Thats why I didnt like the actress that much...There was no love in her eyes like in the cartoon like in the cartoon ariel was more expressive and delicate in her vocals.
Yeah more like a creep waiting behind the trash
@@uglybetty8747yeah and creeping from left to right on that rock.. very weird...
In my personal opinion, I didn’t care for anything about her performance, but to be fair, I didn’t care for the movie overall.
@@Boopartaddict Do u want her to turn into a cartoon 💀
I have one advice for parents. Do not let your children watch anything unless you saw it first.
I agree. Unfortunately that means I have to actually pay attention to kids movies:(
say that to the people banning books without reading them first.
@YuBullyMe name some books being banned.
Books aren't being banned, they're being age restricted. There's no reason to have, or accept, pornographic books in schools.
@@yubullyme3855 Do you think sexually graphic books, straight or gay, should be permitted in schools? Because that’s what’s being banned.
Thing is if you go to FB with he little mermaid thing people are saying. " me and my kids loved it. ' I'm like are you all high are something how did you all like this?
I was really upset that she saved the day at the end. Not only because it’s not true to the story. But the idea is that she saved him initially, sacrificed her voice to become a human and be with him, and in turn he saved her at the end because he’d also do anything for her. These modern day remakes are completely missing the true messages and ideas from the originals, all because of some silly theories and woke ideals. They’re detracted from seeing the beauty in these stories. I’m not sorry when I say I’m mad that today’s Disney movies have no desire for romance. While love doesn’t work out for everybody, I think desiring to love and be loved is incredible and we should embrace that💖
He did try to save her. He rowed all the way out to see to attack Ursala. Did you watch the movie?
Because ideology in their minds takes the place of intelligence and talent.
Well said
If we were really going by the original fairytales then she dies at the end the directors can change what they want just like the animated film changed what it wanted
@@carolinalarracilla3504 There are limits. It's like there's a difference btw clipping one's nails and chopping off fingers.
Ariel wanted to be kissed by Eric. Not only did she love him but her very existence depended on him kissing her "before the sun sets on the 3rd day" and her friends who sang "kiss the girl" knew this. It was obviously a welcome kiss, no coercion whatsoever.
In this one she doesn’t know she has to kiss him (amnesia spell). She just wants to because she’s in love.
Since she can't talk she can’t give verbal consent. Thus the woke have made romance impossible for mute people.
@@celinel.844either way, Disney messed up
Welllll it was kinda coercing Eric into the kiss, but definitely not Ariel.
Personally I loved in the original how both Ariel and Eric save each other at different points in the story. I think it demonstrates a healthy relationship much more than the other Disney movies, both parties have their strengths and help each other where they can. It's not one sided, it's equal and I love that
Taking away men’s opportunity to be heroic is so wrong…so tired of it.
Toxic femininity. Being a woke, man hater doesn't make you a feminist. They are literally ignoring the differences between men and women and destroying the balance between them.
not to me, because now when a woman asks for help im just gonna keep walking or driving or whatever!!!! the message is women don't need a man so be it!!!! lmao
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I agree. It's really messed up.
I agree. In the original she saved him, then later he saved her ... they both had their moment to show their love in a heroic way. It sort of came full circle.
As a med student I was sitting in the theater with my niece and I was mentally going through all the weird genetic anomalies that the professor mentioned to us, but I couldnt come up with an explanation how a hispanic guy could produce 7 different races even with multiple women
It's also canon that there is only 1 mother lol.
It didn’t make sense for this movie to have 7 girl but with different race, like does King Triton have a polygamous relationship with 7 diff. race?
How were there seven races? 🤨 The sisters why either black, white or Asian. What races are we missing?
The sisters were meant to represent the seven seas, which is why they look different from one another. They also have one mother and one father.
@@bob6228 I know babe, I've heard Amala's explanation, they could've done it by decorating their tails appropriate for their distinctive cultures rather than blatantly defying genetics
Sebastian's expressiveness is what made him so memorable. He was designed as a Jamaican with thick lips, pearly teeth, and emotive eyes. You can't do ANY of that with realistic crustacean features! How could they not get that!?
they didn't learn, from the Lion King live action, that the uncanny valley is NOT good for this movies!
The only thing that saved him was Daveed Gigg's voice
@@itsyaboiskyler2519absolutely
You got his emotion for his voice and tone. People stilled laughed at his jokes. So what are you on about?
They wanted a realistic approach, they choose a land crab over an actual ocean crab.
My 5-year old's favorite princess is Ariel, so we mainly watched the movie for her. She said she liked it a little bit and she likes the cartoon better. I share her opinion. I kind of liked that the sisters represent the different seas, but it took away from the character of King Triton. In the cartoon, he comes off as a really loving and gentle family man. Because his daughters all look differently, I would conclude that he had different baby mamas, so he came off more as egotistical rather than loving. I think it would have worked if they were all adopted because humans killed their parents. I was willing to look pass that though and actually liked the movie. I thought the cast did a great job, Halle's version of Part of your World was amazing, and despite the change in lyrics and missing lines, Melissa was a good Ursula. HOWEVER, they ruined the movie for me by having Ariel kill Ursula instead of Eric. To me, it was vital for the relationship of humans and merpeople that Eric kills Ursula - a human saving mermaids for a change. Ariel might have her dad convinced that humans are okay, but would other mermaids just blindly follow? Prince Eric is one of the best Disney princes, if not the best, and they took away his biggest contribution. It was too forced. Also, the interaction between Eric and KingTriton at the end of the movie was very cold. The way the king said "Eric..." came off as contempt (probably because he did nothing) instead of respect. On a positive note, I think the star of the movie was Sebastian, and I don't mind "Scuttlebutt." The movie is also good enough that I wouldn't mind if my girls want to watch it again, I would just have to skip the big fight scene. Although so far, they've declined every time I ask them if they want to watch it again. But they've watched the cartoon a couple of times since we've watched the live action one.
I agree it's a shame they gave the killing Ursula part to Ariel. In the original they both saved each other. It showed they care more for one another and are also more equal.
I mean I would’ve liked it better if those were still his biological daughters considering some kids don’t look nothing their their biological parents.
As they should... 😂😂😂😂
Please don’t hate me for saying so, but in my personal opinion, none of the characters for themselves, especially not Ariel they changed her to the point where she’s completely unrecognizable.
Well my friend, I think if they choose the cartoon, I think that's all you need to know lol.
The entire point of 'Poor Unfortunate Souls' was that it was a VILLAIN song, sung in a bouncy brulesque theme, and Ursula, as a VILLAIN, was telling Ariel that the thing to do was objectify herself sexually to get whatever she wanted - something the villainous Ursula goes on to do when disguising herself as Vanessa! And that giving away something as important as her voice, her ability to express her opinion, her ability to tell Eric who she is, won't actually MATTER, as men would prefer her to keep her mouth shut anyway. Ursula did not actually want Eric and Ariel to achieve true love, so of course she would just as likely give bad advice.
But of course, as we've seen in The Lion King, even villains can't be offensive nowadays.
That is such a good observation! Having been as young as I was when I saw the Little Mermaid I obviously didn’t know what burlesque was so the fact that it was totally sung as a DL burlesque number had always completely flown over my head until YOU pointed this out! I’m kind of embarrassed that I still never realized it lol. Totally explains the somewhat sexualized male fantasy BS that the lyrics adopted l! what better way to drive her con than to reinforce it with a sexy little burlesque performance done in the understated genius manner that was only ever possible during Disneys renaissance. Ugh RIP Disney, you were a product of your time just as the modern day Disney is today…which is just beyond depressing.
It wasn’t offensive to begin with though
These days everything has to be for fools no thinking involved otherwise it won’t pass the censorship
I'm probably going to regret it, but would you mind telling me how exactly they butchered Scar in the remake? I haven't watched and won't watch it - I'm of the opinion that Disney should get as little money as possible for their remake conveyor belt (no judgement towards people who did watch them, especially parents/guardians, that's just my own personal stance).
kind of sad that we understood this when we were 8 and adults can't understand this now lol
it made so much sense in the regular animated little mermaid for eric to save ariel since it was his way of repaying her for saving him
Not to mention how it showed off his bravery. To me, he and Ariel are made for each other. Both are courageous, desire a life different from their upbringing, and have compassion for others. But the first movie has Ariel as heroine (following the shipwreck), and Eric as hero (using a ship to end Ursula's superpower); however, the live-action takes the hero-aspect away from the already kind-of-dreary, Eric, making Ariel a double-heroine (savior of the shipwreck AND ender of Super Ursula). And notice how she (live-action version) turned their survival in the fight with the super-powerful Ursula, into a rescue for her dad, when she told her father that it wasn't she alone who helped bring back her father? That part had me going, "Huh?". What I saw in the struggle were Arial and Eric trying hard not to die.
Exactly! It was very balanced!
@@vitasporan566 couldn’t have said it better
Well obviously the hardcore feminists don’t like a woman being in trouble because they’re narcissistic assholes who only care about that specific gender
It's all about what women should aspire to be but leaves no room to say "here are venerable qualities in men". Because good qualities in men I guess somehow make the woman less than. It's a pretty sad commentary on today's gender relations, for women to be strong the men have to be weak.
I’m not comfortable with the bullying that took place for the Moana actress who had to bow out due to not being dark enough. But here race don’t matter 😂
Same thing with Nani too. People complain that she’s not dark enough, race doesn’t matter until they’re too light.
@@daniellee622 Disney often than not forgets they are a kids company. Kids really don’t give a fuck if your a shade too light. Disney has been given over to the full grown adult woke crowd.
Was she bullied for not being dark? I thought she took on the role of an executive producer for the film and then wanted a younger islander to take on the role that changed her life🤷🏽♂️
@@SamiOklo oh yeah, ppl hated that she was "Too light" even though she's Hawaiian. I loved the idea of an islander playing the role, but the woke folk bitched. But flip that and you're a racists. Shit just doesn't make sense anymore.
Wait did she leave the project? I haven't heard that.
The casting of Triton and his Miss Universe pageant of daughters made my family laugh out loud.
When I watched the little mermaid as a child, i missed all those tiny nuances leftist are so concerned with and afraid of. Why? BECAUSE I WAS A CHILD! 🙄
I'm sorry you didn't have parents that cared enough to point out those nuances to you and proceed to manipulate you and indoctrinate you in the proper leftist way of thinking. /s
Not all leftists agree with the dumb changes made to the movie
but The Little Mermaid IS a leftist movie: the theme is feminism and independence, it was written by a gay man who was going through the aids epidemic, and based on a story written by another gay man from the 1800s who tried to come out to his crush and failed miserably.
There are some unnecessary changes made in this version, but at its core, this was always a leftist story with leftist morals.
Well they fully believe in subliminal messaging & are themselves tying to manipulate children in everything they do. Also Dems are the only ones who hear “dog whistles”
@@mariosblago94
And the original fairy tale was written by a danish author who wrote it to digest his unrequited love to a man whose wedding with a woman he fled.
Always makes me laugh when these people are like "we can't have our VILLAIN giving out a negative message."
Disney is trying to invert what's right and what's wrong, thus making villains appear as good and sometimes vice versa, heroes as the bad guys. This is intentional and they've been doing it for some time.
@@Skyv111 Not really, no
I am so happy she mentioned that Ursula is obviously a villain and says a lot of things that are not true so the idea that little girls would take advice from her is absolutely ridiculous!
Not true, or not your opinion?
Not true, not your opinion either?
I don’t even know what the not true or opinion here means tbh. Just felt rude to the OP so I decided to match the energy back.
@@fredbearpostsfnaf9314 Have you tried context?
Or learning how replies work, at least?
@@fredbearpostsfnaf9314 Do you need a hint, or . . . ?
i just hate how they made Eric be this weeping teenager who can't do anything on his own, he literally sailed the seven seas and yet a mermaid who has never been on a ship had to save him, Eric is one of my favorite princes but now he's just meh..
Maybe he needs help because he hits his head and lose consciousness?
@@Froggyquack but that doesn't happen in the cartoon ??
@@chudiarys Ariel did save Eric from drowing in the cartoon.
You give so many reasons to why the anti-woke rating should actually be lower than deducting just five points
She says it wasn't as woke as she thought. Then she proceeds to mention an onslaught of reasons for why the movie is incredibly woke in pretty much every way.
@@thenonexistinghero It made no sense that she gave it 20 after all she said. What she said sounds like a 9/25
@@Ramzeis Definitely makes no sense. The went woke on almost all elements. And also the worst kind of woke often, the subtle manipulative kind that results in children having a higher chance in developing mental illnesses in their teen or adult years.
@@thenonexistinghero i think she based the score more rather on whether you could take your kids to the theater without them noticing very woke actions on the film, which I agree with because despite there being many, they're not as big of a deal for kids to notice
Should be 10/25 imo
I read somewhere (I haven't seen it yet) that the end when Ariel saves Erick, takes away the whole purpose of Ariel's dad seeing people in a whole different way because of how heroic he was. If SHE saves him, there is no reason why Triton would changes his opinion about humans. There is nothing wrong with a man saving a woman, there is something wrong when it's systematically that way.
Youn clearly did watch the movie and are just looking for reason to hate it, how sad did you
Eric saved Ariel b/c men are protectors. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. 🙂
There's nothing wrong with a man saving a woman but I dont think anyone said there was anything wrong. Eric still went out to sea to find Ariel and he took actions to help take Ursella down. I don't know why people are choosing to get so bogged down by the details except that they want to find things to nitpick. Maybe King Tritton realized humans weren't so bad when he witnessed just how far Ariel was willing to go to be 'a part of that world'. Maybe Eric being out in the sea at the end when he could have been safe in his castle made the King realize some things. There is more than one way to reach a destination.
@@ShantesTravelThings Your comment made 0 sense to me. I haven't seen the movie, it was the first thing that I said. Also, learn some english buddy, it's not that hard.
Wellllllll if you had seen the movie you'd know that Ariel credits eric for helping her save Triton. But also in this version Triton doesn't care about trusting Eric it's more about him trusting ariel to make the right choice for her ownself trusting that she knows best for her own good
To this day, the Cinderella remake with Lily James is still the best remake Disney ever made and at this rate will probably the best one ever.
You are completely right.
Yeap, that movie is amazing- afterwards it went downhill Fast and nasty 🫠😓
The Jungle Book remake is a great remake as well.
@Lewis Barnett true!
100% agree!
What I really like about Eric’s saving Ariel in the 1989 animation is that it shows that he can survive in her world. I remember watching the animation as a kid & thinking that Eric was doomed-that there was no way he could navigate the waters with Ariel. However, he uses his skills as a seaman to commandeer a ship, where he has much more control in the rough waters to battle the sea witch. This scene solidified for me, even as a kid, that Ariel & Eric are a good match. And the live action took that away. ☹️
(Additionally, if the plot were switched to where Ariel ended up using skills she has to save Eric on land, I would have also concluded that Ariel can survive in Eric’s world & that Ariel & Eric are a good match. 🙂)
I never liked the little mermaid film as a kid (I preferred Mulan and B&TB) but by making Ariel kill Ursula, you are taking away equality. The original has: Ariel saves Eric, so later Eric saves Ariel. Now it is: Ariel saves Eric, and then Ariel saves Eric again. It ruins the whole dynamic and equality between men and women. It's also not very romantic, honestly, to have the relationship be one-sided.
Seriously underrated comment
I'm a Mulan fan as well. But what is B&TB?
@@selfrespectingfemale6811 Beauty & the Beast
@Darklight Mari that makes sense 🤣 thanks.
Haven't seen it, but it sounds to me like Eric is a proper beta lmao.
Fearing a villain telling obvious lies might give the wrong message, means Disney thinks its audience is stupid. They might be right.
I mean ppl are stupid tho 😢😅
If they can't understand how to read basic body language and social cues then it's no wonder so many people are socially inept.
I'm autistic and while growing up, films like the animated Little Mermaid actually helped make it easier for me to understand nonverbal communication. I never needed Ursula to outright say "I'm evil" for me to understand that she was the bad guy in the story just like she didn't need to openly admit to lying about men preferring silent women for anyone to understand that she was trying to manipulate Ariel into giving up her voice.
I find them dumbing down their movies and their villains painfully insulting.
Wait dumb audience? Like Kids?
Could this movie have been made for little kids? There's snow way!
@@autisticscreechling4950 Makes sense since this generation has a lower IQ than the previous...
They've been thinking their audience is stupid since the beginning of time.
Them leaving out chef Louis was a big deal for me. I can see why they did though. They probably didn’t want to upset animal rights activists.
Orrr offend the French? Lol
I adore chef Louis and Les Poissons as much as the next girl (and I’m not even offended by the cheesy accent) but I think chopping heads off of live-action fishies would upset the children who are the target audience. Might be a little gory🤢
I know! That was my favorite part in the original Little Mermaid and I didn’t even realize they had left it out until I got out of the movies! Honestly I could have done without one of the songs that Eric sings just so we could put that song back in!! 😢
I kept waiting for that scene... one of the funniest scenes in the original movie!
I think it was so little kids don't suddenly refuse to eat seafood. 😆 It hits a little different when it's not in cartoon form and they think they're actually eating Sebastian.
Wanting diversity, representation and inclusion should mean to create a new, an original and a unique character, build it up and make the character an icon whom people can identify with. It does not mean changing an established icon and creating rifts and confusion in the process.
If I were an African-American, I would feel ashamed that Disney had to erase Ariel's skin colo(u)r just to make me feel like I belong somewhere instead of creating something new for me. I honestly would not watch this movie because, I find it disrespectful to original writer and people in general.
Thank you. She is described as white with blue eyes numerous times in the original fairytale but apparently Disney's new way of doing this is stealing European culture and then blackwashing it because they dislike white people (just look at their anti slavery episode of louder and prouder).
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Ok so... let's talk about how a mermaid with no experience in steering a ship... successfully steered a ship into Ursula. Your anti woke score was waaaay too high.
I lost you at mermaid.
@@geekylove3603 To be fair, I'm pretty sure I lost myself.... This movie made No Sense.
wait I though she saw how Eric steering his ship in the storm?
Yeah, I really enjoyed the film, but that scene did grate on me a bit. Definitely should have been Eric saving her in that moment. I still think the film as a whole was good.
@@LEMINH-wq7ef this was definitely a visual reference they gave
The ‘strong female’ character trope really is making me start to defend damsels in distress. First off Ariel wasn’t even a a damsel in the first place since she saved Eric under the ocean and the end there’s this bad ass scene where Eric saves Ariel back from Ursella but no they had to change cause apparently if a man helps/supports/saves a woman’s life it automatically makes her a ‘Damsel’.
I agree. If this is actually the new way, all "straight" women will end up spinsters in the near future. Nobody wants a partner who puts themselves above them and demonstrates their superiority. I couldn't think of anything more appaling...
Ya is the message to boys "don't help girls they don't need it ever"? Lol
@@saltwatercat5146 I didn't watch the movie but shouldn't she know she was cursed, her voice was took away from Ursella
It's the exact opposite of 'strong'. If you want to see someones strenght, put them in situation of weakness. But they are insecure instead.
I'm starting to think the people in the comments don't know what a trope is
Okay, but body language is a form of language and communication. It’s a real thing, and EVERYONE reads it 🙄
Very true, and most experts in the field agree that it accounts for a little over half of the communication between people. So, to drop it means that over half of that message was lost.
Well, some highly autistic people struggle to read it, but they learn to adapt
11:30 Exactly!!! She is the villain. She is purposefully lying to convince Ariel and trap her in signing the contract. It's the whole point of the song
Changing the lyrics to Kiss the Girl was one of the dumbest choices Disney ever made. I wish someone in Hollywood would tell people, "if you're suddenly offended by something you loved as a child, you need to get a life, get over yourself, or get help."
It’s not about being offended. People act like songs written 50 yrs ago are totally relevant to now. People date differently so the lyrics can be updated. Plus it’s a better message to teach your kids to ask before touching someone.
@@tanitaharris7211 There is troubling history with division, this movie remake is a message of division.
@@tanitaharris7211 but okay to deceive and stalk a guy?
@@tanitaharris7211 People born in 1989 will be crushed to find out they've just turned 50.
But seriously, Ariel *wanted* to kiss Eric, it was literally part of the deal with Ursula that she had to make Eric fall in love with her and kiss her in *three* days. Eric wasn't doing anything to force himself on Ariel, wasn't it Sebastian the one who kept singing to him to "kiss the girl"?
That phrase is a bit stupid when applied to things like twilight and 50 shades of grey.
Sorry, Amala, I think you were generous on the anti-woke rating.
@Amala Ekpunobi: Unapologetic I think your score was fair, they tried really hard not to offend anyone and to be inclusive. Nothing wrong with that.
ginger spells the n word if you move
the letters around, they being low key racist lol
red hair is more rare then a skin color. but they making
all gingers into African Americans instead. Sus.
No she was right it’s not that woke
@@TheAmalaEkpunobi yes the characters are there because of wokeall outa place
We're you paid for the fair review 😮
The problem is that the Disney people think kids are just "little adults". Hence the hyper realistic animals. Kids are not little adults, however. They need simpler visuals, simpler stories. Those animals probably terrified most children, LOL
Maybe that’s why they push the gay shit. Either that or they’re trying to indoctrinate children
My 6 y/o daughter thought Sebastian was hilarious and she loved the movie whereas she got bored of the original one she turned on on Disney +. So.
@@Reclaim-the-Rainbow Your daughter ain't the majority of this poor excuse of a remake.
Kids remember colors, vibrant characters and catchy music.This is more geared toward adults, which people will forget in a few years or less. Nothing stands out like much of the movie remakes today.
Sounds like the animals were the same as in The Liok King
-Hated the scary shark scene for a kids movie.
-Totally agree Ariel creeping up the rock was odd.
-No chemistry between Ariel and Eric!!! The kiss the girl part felt odd. In the cartoon Ariel wanted to be kissed, but in the ‘23 version she didn’t really seem interested.
-Eric looks just like he did in the cartoon. If they changed Ariel they should have changed him.
-The parent thing felt off
Ursula was a 10/10 for me. 😊
They took out Eric's shining moment? Wow. So much for "equality". Ariel saves Eric after the storm but Eric can't also show his bravery and save Ariel in her time of need? Eric can't have a moment to show that his love for Ariel is more than skin deep? To show that he's willing to go up against terrible odds in a situation he doesn't fully understand (he's got no idea about the deal between Ariel and Ursula) all to prove that he really does care about her. Eric can't have that? You were way too generous, Amala on your anti-woke score. I wouldn't have given that category more than a 10 after such a *ahem* d1ck-less move by Disney. The original movie was about Ariel, clearly, but it's also about the man she loves. What is so wrong with showing that the man she loves is actually a decent and worthy man for her? Do woke women really need to be so "empowered" that they man they might want to be with has nothing of quality to offer? Is that man just supposed to be an animated dummy? Men thrive on being the protector, the provider. Strip us of that and you strip away the bulk of our very essence as men. To rob Eric of his shining moment in this version of the movie is to strip Eric of perhaps the defining moment to prove that he is a good and worthy man who won't use and abuse Ariel. Disney didn't give us a prince to root for. They gave us a shell and painted it to look like a man. I do not buy into the whole "representation" crap. I don't need to see a man in a movie to feel "represented". My identity and confidence in who I am is not so weak that I need to see myself in every movie I watch. But to see a movie where they take away a defining moment in the lead male character feels like a slap in the face and an insult to men everywhere.
I read the whole comment, and as a woman I agree. I haven’t seen the new movie, I don’t plan on it because Disney’s newest movies are just.. really bad. But to do that to prince eric just because he’s a guy (the lead guy) is fucked. I watched the original, and it’s just sad because I’m all for independence, but because he’s a man who loves her and wants to prove that, he can’t so Ariel gets to prove herself strong and independent, even though she does like several times in the film no? I’m sorry this was insulting to you all, Disney’s behavior is just… really dumb. Sorry if this was poorly worded I’m not good with putting simple sentences together💀
@@_TheTerminatingSodaCan You spoke your mind wonderfully. And I appreciate what you said a lot. I know other men will, too.
Very well said! The erasure of men in todays media is horrible.
Exactly! As a woman, I believe that all women should be able to live an "empowered" life, but that will never be an equivalent to living solely on their own powers because life just doesn't work like that. No. You always have to live in harmony with each other, and that should especially be the case with your significant other. Whether it be a guy or a girl, wouldn't you just want the person you chose, you love, and you threw yourself in danger for to also show that kind of loyalty and bravery in times of distress? Yes, I don't want to burden my boyfriend with all the problems in my life, but I do want to believe that if it's a life-and-death situation that I'm facing, I'll be able to trust him to help me because I will do the same for him. That's what love is. Hence, you can't just take everything off of Eric just because he is a man, then shove it all in Ariel's plate. What the heck is that? Your partner literally don't have any reason to really stick around you other than the fact that he makes you "feel happy." That's an expectation for a pet, not a lover.
I know when I can be strong and independent, but I also know when to let my guards down and be vulnerable to the person I trust. That's what makes a romantic relationship so strong and special. This depiction of the "woke" couple totally stripped the most precious, essential part of love, which really breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing your opinion.
@@da__mi this comment was absolutely well said! I agree entirely
"Are we supposed to assume Ariel's father had 7 different baby mamas"
HOLY CRAP IM DYING-
No, because it's impossible for all those women to share a parent.
Or maybe Ariel's mother had been with 6 other different men, by the woke standards, I would assume this is what they were telling you with such diverse mermaids race.
Yeah, no misogyny there, right? 🙄🙄🙄
This was not an issue with Percy Jackson. Greek gods being polygamous is part of Greek culture so this version is actually more accurate than the original. Poseidon is NOT married in Greek mythology but he has children. I love Ariel. Her acting without speaking was very good and her singing is the best of any version of Ariel. Oh, yes. Ariel going up the rock was creepy and there were not enough people for a royal palace and town. I also did not like the black female who is referred to as "the king."
Yup 😂
I find it amusing that they'd add in things about consent when Ariel and the gang are LITERALLY manipulating Eric into kissing her 😂😂😂 The girl WANTS TO BE KISSED
Exactly at the end of the day someone isn't going to be consenting
Thank you! This is what I've always been thinking. She's not asking for his consent - she, along with the sea creatures, sets the scene for manipulation. No one ever has a problem with that!
Lol no one complained in the original tale when the little mermaid literally kissed the UNCONSCIOUS prince after rescuing him.
Under the Sea didn't have that BOOM factor like the original.
What disappoints me is the sheer disrespect the crew had for the original. They went out of their way to talk about how superior the remake was over its predecessor and even forced the old VA to defend it, as she said "changes were necessary". These changes ruined the movie and its message. It had me siding with Triton and made Ariel look dumb. Humans not caring much about mermaids somehow made the titular character feel reasonable. But in the remake, her saying "not all humans" is messy and dismissive af. Not to mention the cursed spell that had her avoid Eric as if he was a rabid dog.
I won't even watch it. The whole thing esp with the crappy cgi (esp when you compare it to Wakanda under the ocean scenes and Avatar). It disrespects the original so damn much.
My kids hated it. When Ariel and her sister showed up on screne they all asked "wait how are they all family? None of them look alike" My 8 year old wanted to leave even before the end she said "why did they change so much, they made it stupid"
Smart kids you have. Sorry you had to suffer for over 2 hours of this garbage
You do know that in real life there are some families that don’t all look alike right?
@@Jasmine-uh1pu Yeah, adopted families however that’s different.
In the original little mermaid, all the sisters look different.
@@Paentie how is that any different? I will never understand how promoting diversity can be seen as a bad thing.
I'm not understanding the non consent thing. Ariel was trying to kiss him! that was literally her one goal. her team was the one making the suggestion.
Liberal here. I, and every liberal I know, agree 100%. Ariel’s consent was never in doubt. She was actively trying to get him to kiss her, and her friends were trying to get Eric to stop backing away. If anything, he was being gaslit into thinking he wanted to kiss her even if he didn’t. So her consent? The fuckwits who did this movie actually created a problem where there wasn’t one, and the problem is that HIS consent wasn’t considered.
They changed the plot. In the remake Ursula erases her memory too. So she's not trying to get him to kiss her so she can stay human. Can't have girls thinking it's okay for a girl to want to kiss a guy.
@@camillarich or maybe it’s OK for a guy to want a woman and chase her a little
lol. in my day that's what our sleep over giggles were made of.
@@camillarich So in this one Ursula doesn't just turn into Vanessa so as to ruin Ariel's chances at fulfilling her contract, but she also erases her memory so that she's guaranteed to have Ariel fail at keeping her end of the deal? So Ursula can cheat her way into getting what she wants but God forbid she sang about how men supposedly like women who keep their mouths shut.
The tale of the Little Mermaid is Danish to begin with. In the original book, H.C. Andersen constantly describes the whiteness of the protagonist. I don't remember if she also has blonde hair. In Disney's case she was called "Ariel" because in the book she had no name, and the artist Glen Keane decided to design her as a redhead because he was a bit fed up with blonde mermaids. His design was accepted and that's how she stayed. Therefore, Disney's Ariel is a redhead.
And although the story is set in a place where Caucasian people predominate, we can be flexible in the diversity of ethnicities in the fantasy sea world: could there be mermaids of different races? Sure, why not? And in the same TV series that Disney made in the 90's, as a friend of Ariel we have a little brown mermaid with afro features, and who is also deaf and mute. An excellent way to make inclusion. In fact, Halley Bailey could have played that character and no one would have complained. The problem is that Halley was cast as ARIEL. Could Disney have made a new movie with afro mermaids? Absolutely, and it would have been interesting to see, but the problem is that this singer played ARIEL!!! They only called her in to make her a "shield against critics". I feel sorry for Halley, (who I would have preferred to see as Tiana or Moana or Nanny).
Why doesn't Disney have the guts to grab African tales with their beautiful folckor and turn them into movies. Marvel's Black Panther did work because that's what the characters are like. We wouldn't tolerate a blond Black Panther because it DOESN'T GO.
Why do they have to take tales of European, or Danish, or Nordic origin, and forcibly change them to be inclusive? They destroy the essence and the folklore of those stories! Are they afraid to put in a purely Caucasian cast?
I come back to the question, why don't they take the best African, or Arab, or Egyptian, or Hindu stories/mythologies and fill them with a cast entirely of those ethnicities?
Do they think they won't succeed in doing so? Then they are the racists.
I could not agree more.
Maybe they'd be afraid to get sniped in the head if they took an African story.
I think they're SLOWLY working on that. Yeah, maybe they are afraid. But look at Princess and the Frog. That's a white character in the book, but the made BOTH Tiana and Naveen black, and it was beautiful. Maybe they do feel safer starting out with "white" princess/heroine fairytales, they are more mainstream. We as a society maybe need to promote POSITIVELY that we want other/more/different fairytales. No screaming or negativity
I think we don't want diversity WITHIN the movie anymore, but just diverse STORIES. Like Encanto, that was cool. Very Spanish/Mexican.
And please, don't assume they're racists just cuz they haven't done this fast enough.
Red stands out more in the ocean setting as well. So it worked for the animation.
It's amusing how the cg cartoon for babies they made based off this they not only gave Black Ariel the hyper red that she should have had in this movie instead of the boring brown (with ever so slight tint of red sometimes). Not to mention the braids, which don't move interestingly in water. Not that it would've looked good if they gave her long straight hair. The cg is... something. AND they made her father black in that *and* Ursula black. They couldn't even make their cg show cohesive with their "diverse" live action movie. It's less diverse lmao
It's so goofy.
There are so many wealthy black people in Hollywood that are talented and creative. Why don’t they come up with their own stories/movies portraying people of color in the way they want to be seen?
But they are doing it....
This movie was made by white people wanting to be the saviors of black people. Lin Manuel is the only "diverse" addition because apparently their activism doesn't translate to behind the scenes jobs for people of color.
Idk ask the white directors that’s casting them
This was a white person’s idea. This is a Disney movie, not a Tyler Perry film. Black people didn’t ask for this.
Probably because it doesn’t sell like Eurocentric themed films. Some and probably most films with black characters are mostly popular amongst our own culture unfortunately. There are so many black lead and written films that I haven’t even heard just bc it’s not pushed out like the other films, you’d have to dig for some of them.
There are black writers writing books of African fantasy or stories with characters that are black. Hopefully they get the attention they deserve for potential movies in the future. It’s sad we have to make a big deal of content having black characters or culturally themed just so something gets it’s name out there.
In the original she saves him then he saves her, they are equals. Ursula s lies to Ariel in the original are valuable to show how convincing and confusing deciet can be. Ariel is a master mariner and horse handler without ever having to learn or practice. Most of all Eric is useless, how else do you describe a man incapable of protecting the woman he loves
@john tabler a bit toxic to say dudes who don't protect their partners are useless. Some can't y'know.
@@williammiller6330 if you can't protect and provide for the ones you love around you, what good are you?
Thank you!!!!
@@williammiller6330 I find your wording is interesting. You said "don't" at first which mean men can but DON'T want to. Then later on you said 'Can't as if to soften the blow. My guy, just say you don't want to protect your woman
"Ariel is a master mariner and horse handler without ever having to learn or practice." if you're referring to the scene when they went on a date or whatever, that was already in the original (specifically the part with the horse). So I'm not sure how this is a criticism of the remake. I don't think the original was supposed to be realistic so the mariner thing can be looked past too.
If there was a survey from women that asked “should he ask to kiss you” it would be overwhelmingly no, he needs to be able to read the room.
not everything needs to be verbalised, in adult settings at least, consent can be understood and transmitted through social cues. but with this political climate, I somewhat see both sides of making consent more concrete. in a kids movie, the emphasis was a bit weird, but at least it introduces them to some of the social cultural issues in discourse today (arguable if they need to be given socio-cultural messages in the first place, without establishing and letting them navigate newfound values and ideas in the first place)
@Zinkesis Girl, good luck with being forever alone.
@@azih8626 not a bad reply. Interesting ideas.
I know! I get that sometimes women have problems with guys just going up and hitting on them or trying to make sexual advances toward them but Ariel and Eric should have developed the entire film and made it obvious that they have feelings towards each other. Also I feel like a guy can look at a girl's face when he is getting closer and see if she wants to or not. Haven't seen the movie so idk if this is completely accurate.
@@Kal-213 The movie Hitch explained it perfectly! Go 90 percent in for the kiss and if she wants to kiss you she'll go that last 10 percent.
My biggest issue with this movie is to think Disney would have never ever have considered choosing a white actress to portray a character imagined as anything other than a "white girl".God forbide we have a "white" Jasmine, from Aladdin, or a "white" Pocahontas, or a "white" Tiana in a live action of these movies. But yeah, totaly ok to completely change the whole story and its characterizations if it is about a white character. All for the sake of equality and representativity and whatever...
Hey so mermaids are mythical creatures! Ariel is based off mythical creature that doesn’t have a race. All the women you named are all women of color whose colors matter in their stories and you know that, which is why you said their names. Anyone race can play Ariel but not any race can play Jasmine, Tiana, or Pocahontas.
@@mastershifter4495
Regardless of Ariel being based on a mythicall creature she was originally characterized as a "white girl" and it's obvious her skin colour as well as other aspects of the movie were changed with the solo purpose of meeting an specific political agenda.
Also the author who idealized Ariel was a white man and if Disney was really interested in representativity, wouldn’t it make sense to keep Ariel as a white woman in honor of the author’s culture and origins as the they did in the lion king live action with a cast composed only of black skin performers?
Shouldn’t representativity encompass all races? Or is the media trying to comunicate some races are more relevant that others? Because that’s what I see in what Disney’s been doing in their productions lately.
Disney is more than capable of creating original stories to fit different races and skin colours and bring in more representativity to the big screen if that was their sincere goal.
But they are trying to change the stories already told instead, imposing a ridiculous ideology, in my opinion, that aims to divide rather than integrate. It’s always white against black, men against women, heteros against lgbtqiapn+… And I can't help but wonder where that is suppose to lead us.
You have to ask for affirmative verbal consent to kiss the girl that stalked you and gave up her voice to an octopus witch just to be able to get near you.
What a way to frame it 🥴
Consent can be nonverbal
The change in the lyrics wasn't that noticeable
*Makes me think of Netflix: You!* 🤔
Eric should have asked for consent...even though Ariel was the one who was trying to kiss Eric without HIS consent - and he clearly looked uncomfortable at first when she leaned in, which prompted the song in the first place.
Speaking as someone who worked on the original, this new flix is an insult to all of us who worked on it.
Truly. Thank you for creating my #1 favorite film as a child. I've met John Musker a couple times (very nice person). I would love to hear his thoughts regarding this film.
Oh well
@@missmerbella yea Musker was personally trained by Frank Thomas, so his advice was always gold.
It was kinda scary since Mermaid was taking a chance.
But when we heard some of music scores, many really felt we had something.
What! Really!? The Little Mermaid was my favorite when I was a kid.🥹 Thank you for your hard work!
That’s awesome that you worked on the original! 😍 Thank you so much for creating such a masterpiece. Can you please tell us what all you did and any cool BTS details? That would be so interesting! Thank you 😊
I saw elsewhere someone point out that the plot problem created by taking away Prince Eric saving the day and giving to Ariel instead was that it was Prince Eric risking his life to save Ariel that convinced King Triton that not all humans were bad. So by changing that scene, King Triton now changes his mind about humans for no particular reason.
Haha! ‘Just believe what the woke agenda says’ 😂 the kids can’t think FOR THEMSELVES?!
@@Khloe_dancer_model it IS pretty obvious that this movie is wrong.
@@Khloe_dancer_model What does woke mean though? I’m so confused
@@muraismybby4617 Within the decade of the 2010s, the word woke (the colloquial, passively voiced past participle of wake) obtained the meaning 'politically and socially aware' among BLM activists.(Google).But it has transitioned into this mess of accepting transgender and black peoples in movies like the little Mermaid,trying to erase the ORIGINAL and if you don’t like it,you racist.
@@Khloe_dancer_model Did it? Or did y’all DECIDE it means that? Also u a grown ass person crying about a movie for kids , is crazy get yo big ass on somewhere
Yes! I agree with all that you said. They shouldn't take things out from the original. They should've enhanced it. It is a good film, but it feels too different. (in multiple aspects like you mentioned) I feel like the best live action princess movie in Cinderella. That was really well done!
Sad reality is that we've gone from many of the best family movies to 'it wasn't the worst'. I'd take off more points in general due to lower expectations
That's what it feels like for certain Disney movies now. And when I watched GotG, Spider Verse, Puss in Boots, was I genuinely amazed or was it better than those other movies that I viewed it as top tier?
The fact that Eric saves Ariel at the end is a parallel in reference to when she saves him at the beginning of the movie and that is something that comes out as reciprocal because, with their actions, they are showing each other that they care for one another. It was the closure of a plot cycle. Taking it away and making Ariel save him twice doesn't show dynamism and it becomes repetitive and bland at the same time
Yes, and it also shows Triton that not all humans are bad, which is why in the end he lets Ariel go with Eric.
@@veronikamajerova4564 Seeing Triton letting her go with Eric without him, who didn't do anything to own his respect, left me like this:
I mean, people can care about each other in more ways than just saving their life. Eric treated Ariel like a guest,showed her around and made her happy. Can't that be enough?
@@connaeris8230 For Triton, knowing how headstrong he is about humans... I bet is not xp
All fathers want their daughter to be married to a guy that can protect and fight for their daughter, in this movie they removed it. Ariel always yeah saves her man haha.
I’m a feminist, but honestly, saving ourselves & trying to be badass’s ALL the time is exhausting 😂 The sexy protector trope (like Witcher) is fiiiiiine with me 😏
Yes, sexy protector all the way!
@@sarahouillette1357 can't kill masculinity and have it too .
I am Latin American, I speak Spanish as my first language, but sadly, the sect of extreme feminism is in all languages. The truth is, I understand more those men who prefer to be alone.
I believe in equality, but I think so many people are taking on the "bada$$" type now, that it's pretty much become a cliche. I've met way more women that try to act tough and bad-a than I meet the soft, gentle and loving type now. Not saying you can't be both. But most of the ones I've met just seem more ready to fight than love. (I'm also a woman) And I mean like...hair pulling, over-the-top cussing, and just...flat up wild. Is anyone calm in this day and age or did we all just snap? lmao
@@ElloFantasyNope, that only happening in america or countries influenced by america.
Poor Ariel. The rules of swaps are really easy:
1) Any male role can be swapped to female. Female roles cannot be swapped to male, unless it's part of an overall swap (such as Chris Hemsworth in Ghostbusters 2016).
2) Any white character can be swapped to any other ethnicity. No other ethnicity can be swapped to white. Also, once a character is swapped from white, that character can never be white ever again.
3) Diverse means not-white. It's okay to have all characters be any other ethnicity, but an all-white cast is not allowed.
I don't understand why they just didn't make a spin-off of one of Ariel's sisters. The sister's really are named after the seas. They could of made an amazing new mermaid for little girls to love. The sisters could of had different mothers. They could of made it something about her feeling left out and adventuring into the world find herself or some bull.
1. Never said she had to be white.
2. I'm a hick so I text how speak, so sorry if my bad grammar offends you. Plus I don't tend to go back and make sure I have proper grammar. Just type and send.
3. If they had made a spin-off of a different sister who was black she would of had a different mother than the other sisters. Because you know.......genetics.
At least they didn't decide to say that Ariel was born a boy.
@@KenFullman that’s actually in the next remake currently taking place right now 😂
So true!
I said this so many times when this first came out. Why CHANGE an existing character when you already have one - they could have easily adapted one or all of her sisters and made this work. She had a black sister (or friend?) in the original that we knew basically nothing about. If you want romance what if she met and fell in love with an half-octopus man like Ursula? Heck, why can’t we get Ursula’s backstory?! She’s King Tridents SISTER!! Talk about weird genetic anomalies!
Should, could, would.
When you decide to fund a mermaid movie, you can make the movie you suggested.
This argument sounds like the Black people who argue about why they don't make Black Jesus films.
When they decide to fund their own Black Jesus films, they can do whatever they choose.
What difference is your should, could, would make right now?
9:30 - 9:20
A couple of notes on the consent topic;
1. They dramatically changed the plot of the entire film by omitting Ariel's knowledge that kissing the prince was part of the contract. Now whether or not they did that just to make a scenario where consent needs to be asked, in any case it's f**king stupid! If anything, Ariel should be the one asking for consent in the original, as it's her who not only wants but requires the kiss!
2. I'm really looking forward to going in cinema to watch the Snow White remake and laugh at the confused look on the stupid woke lefts faces when the film ends with Prince Charming asking for Snows consent to kiss her, and her being doomed to an eternal slumber because she's unable to answer him 😂
Didn’t they just redo Snow White a few years ago though…? I like Snow White, it’s a neat story, but that feels like overload (Cinderella, too). Can we do a different fairy tale please? I can think of some
Really great dark and scary ones!
Also, Disney, where is my 12 Dancing Princesses? Love that story, always am waiting for that one
Dude what? Man found a unconscious person in a forest who was going to wake up eventually anyway. If she dies, then cool. Atleast she wasn't violated
Prince Charming was Cinderella's prince, Snow White's prince was Florian.
Even if Ariel forgets about the deal of getting a kiss from Eric would get her legs forever, isn't she attracted to Eric? Why wouldn't she want to kiss the guy she's attracted to?
It's stupid writing really.
@@williammiller6330 The German original actually goes like this: The prince doesn't want the coffin to remain in the forest and asks the dwarves to carry it to his castle. One of the dwarves stumbles upon a root, causing the coffin to jolt, which makes Snow White cough up the apple.
The prince would not have kissed a dead body. He just got lucky.
there is a Russian version of snow white where the princess and prince already know each other before the story starts and he starts looking for her straight away going everywhere and when he finds her sleeping it doest look as creepy that he kisses her cause they already engaged and know about it, also she doesn't hang out with dwarves but 7 military brothers
Fun facts:
In the original Danish fairy tale, by Hans Christian Andersen, the little mermaid is described as having, "white hands", "lovely white arms" and a "pretty pair of white legs".
Furthermore, illustrations clearly show her as a young, white girl.
yeah, that’s the original book. ariel 2023 is an adaptation of the animated ariel movie, not the book.
@@nazgulstew and even then they didn't respect it.
@@nazgulstew does it really matter?
@@chrissymc886 u mean the animated film didnt respect the book?
@@Green-tg1on a lot of people have been comparing the movie to the book so i would say yeah
Coming late because I was waiting for it to come out on Disney Plus. I felt like they made Ariel saving Eric make sense. He was swirling around in hurricane waters unable to breathe. Just trying to stay alive. Ariel is able to breathe under water again and therefore when she passes the boat under water, she has her faculties and oxygen and can problem solve during this intense moment.
I LOVE the lines in Ursula's song that they took out just because they go reason today so you really get a sense of how disgusting this villain is. I was a bit disappointed that the sculpture of the man wasn't Eric.
Thank you for calling out that creepy rock crawl! They were many of us just flabbergasted at this scene! Did Disney not watch the scene and see how stupid it looked?! Even my 10 year spotted it and questioned it!
My sister about fell on the floor laughing at the rock crawl 😂 why was Halle shaking so hard too hahaha
The shaking and her facial expressions in this scene made her look angry instead of longing to be with the prince. It was very Gollum-ish.
I'm so glad she mentioned this! I was immediately uncomfortable and felt awkward during that scene. I got Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction vibes and it was very out of place.
Ariel's supposed to burst onto the rock from the ocean, one of the best scenes in the movie
My fiancé said she looked like a crack head😫
The little mermaid 1989 version is one of the most visually beautiful movies Disney has ever made!!! the fact that they darkened this movie is just depressing!!
Rubbish
You are depressing
Its so depressing I had to see my therapist after!!! 😠😠😠😠
@@l_ifeefi_l1998 I suspect you had a therapist before the movie
@@l_ifeefi_l1998 always had therapy issues
It's so ironic that in "Kiss The Girl", the entire motive of the scene and the song is to push Eric into kissing Ariel. She clearly loves him and wants him to kiss her, but she can't speak, plus Eric only recognizes the *voice* of the girl he fell in love with, so he's reluctant to kiss this random lady who does not speak, regardless of how much she throws herself at him. Meanwhile, a band of fish sets up the mood to encourage him to do it. If anything, Eric should be the one being asked for consent. But the idea of a man being shy and not invasive over a woman's space is so inconceivable to some people they just twist it around in their heads. There was nothing wrong with the song lyrics, there was nothing wrong with the original, and that live action as a great waste of time and resources
Wow, what a great point!
Right? It was so obvious, especially the scene that was shown here. Ariel is leaning in and ready to kiss. Eric also leans in but pulls away because he isn't sure and HE IS THE ONE BEING PRESSURED. So many of us knew this as a kid so I'm not sure why it's about Ariel's consent when she clearly just wants to be with him and kiss him.
As soon as she gets on land and tries to speak to Eric, even the dumbest kids understood she had been duped... and that her voice and her personality was what would ultimately lead to them being together.
The original “kiss the girl” isn’t problematic. It’s about Eric not daring to kiss Ariel even though she’s giving him all the signals. Girls like confidence, girls don’t like when you’re insecure and have to ask.
But the consent-part is why he’s hesitant. He doesn’t KNOW if he should do it, even though everything is telling him this is the moment to do it.
And for that matter, is it really so bad if a guy tries to kiss you on a date? Is “awkward” so horrible a feeling that it should trump every moment of genuine romance?
THIS👆👆👆👆👆
Girls are a hivemind and like exactly one spexific thing
Well, I feel like you shouldn't grab a person and kiss them but if the moment calls for it you can lean in for a kiss and give them time to avoid you/step back/turn away. That said, I don't have a problem with being asked for the first time either, I don't think it shows lack of confidence. In the movie they are in romantic situation, she's leaning in for a kiss, consent can be given non-verbally.
@@reginalannister2262 That’s what I’m saying, non-verbal consent.
Most times when you’re in a budding relationship, you feel when the time is right, you’re getting closer to each other, start talking softly, with your lips almost getting magnetic. That’s the most obvious thing ever, but it’s happened.
My last gf and I, we had something different. She doesn’t touch people usually, but she was ok with my touch, after a while, when I was crouched down looking for a movie for us, she put her hand on my back, and I instantly knew she liked me. I started making more dramatic moves to see how she’d react, and she responded well to my advances, as I already knew from that hand on my back.
Some signals are easy to read, others not so much.
My eight year old daughter hated the rap song in this movie - she commented on it as soon as we left the theater
Theres a rap song in the movie? 💀
The rap song was soooo bad! It should have not been in the movie but everything else was good
awkwafinas voice is grating as an actress and the rapping didn't do her any more favors.
Yup scuttle butt. Aka gossip rap. But it's the most annoying thing you'll ever hear.
for real, i dont know if Lin thought people would actually like it. it was more funny and stupid than anything.
Ariel doesn’t save Eric twice but FOUR times in this version:
1. She saved him when the ship went down.
2. She saved him by breaking Ursula’s spell when he was bewitched.
3. She saved him when Flotsam and Jetsam went after him.
4. She saved him by killing Ursula instead of him doing it.
that happened in the original too
@@3seren No. In the original, Eric kills Ursula proving to Triton that Ariel chose the right man and that her love for him was not foolish.
Most importantly, it showed that humans could be good and caring.
Eric not only saved The king’s daughter but also Triton’s entire kingdom (including six other daughter of his).
Okay, what's your point lmao?
Was he really under her spell tho? I was so confused cause the entire time after getting “spelled” he looked conscious but just a little confused. In the original you can tell he is spelled because he doesn’t even say anything when Ariel and the other sea creatures appear to attack Venessa. He is looks robotic. But like in the new version…. I kept forgetting he was spelled because he seemed more conscious than in the other movie…… that part was a miss for me TvT
@@3seren and flotsam and Jetsam got zapped by Triton
So ariel is black and her father is white ?💀 also they only decided to race swap the main character and her only ? how is the the prince or her father not black ? 🤣🤣so you're telling me all this is for diversity and not controversy ? c'mon Disney , people aren't that stupid .
Her dad is played by a Hispanic man. And all of her sisters but one were race swapped
Melissa McCarthy/Jessica Alexander as Ursula/Vanessa. Vanessa is Ursula's "human form".
I think it's a shame they took away Eric's moment. Not only is it iconic, but it's the only time in the original film where HE rescues her -- a human defending a mermaid in a universe where they're supposed to be enemies. Ariel rescues him from drowning, and then from marrying Ursula/Vanessa. Him rescuing her is like everything coming full circle.
It was also what showed the king maybe all humans aren’t that bad. And how would Ariel know how to drive a boat??
Exactly. The plot is utterly ruined if Eric doesn't save her.
I just learned a few days ago that when the writers that did the writing for the original animation, they were really having fun discussing and combining ideas with Eric fighting Ursula, basically the two scenes they took were the moment that Eric harpooned Ursula and killed her with the ship later with the lightening coming down on her, which later became an epic scene of how a Disney villain went down.
It was also the ending that made sense if you think about what do you need to steer a boat.
SHE ALSO SAVES HIM A THIRD TIME WHEN URSULA CASTS A ENERGY BEAM AT HIM WITH THE TRIDENT MAKING IT HIT THE MORAY EELS INSTEAD
I'm glad you touched on the fact that Ursula is lying to Ariel when trying to convince Ariel to stay quiet. That's a resonating theme throughout Disney movies - the villains always try to mislead young people. Taking that away is almost like saying, "people are too dumb to see through this." The body language thing is supposed to be salacious and I'm convinced it was put in to give the adults something to guffaw about, and to keep them awake while watching a children's movie.
Ariel saves Eric in the original film, and he saves her. It was a nice balance of teamwork against a common foe.
In the original, Ariel is not focused on finding a man. She's all about the world on land. She happens to see Eric and is smitten, which then becomes a focus, but initially it's all about forks and feet and dancing and the grass is greener.
That leads me to the consent for kissing. The One boy who asked me if it was okay to kiss me was Also an Eric. I caught him molesting my cat with a q-tip when she was in heat. I'm going to say asking for permission to get a kiss isn't exactly a marker by which to judge character. 🤷♀
She literally took her voice because Mermaids have a "siren song" that is said to bewitch men so if she had a voice , he would have fallen for her and kissed her immediately....She was just making up an excuse to explain away what she was doing...
...that took a turn at the end there.
@christiannanemec234 it did that
Excuse me? WHAT ☠️
The cat thing is horrific, uggh!
“Eric never asked for consent”
It’s Ariel who should be asking for consent, not Eric. She’s quite literally trying to seduce Eric throughout the movie so she can get her kiss and stay human. Have these people even watched the original movie?
Nah cuz ariel literally signed her consent in fine print like what are people not getting
Lol no they haven't
Ariel didn’t remember she was supposed to kiss him in the live action
Eric is a man, you don't ask for consent to a man, they always want it.
what they SHOULD have addressed in the new movie is how Ariel can write but never bothers to send Eric a letter, thats the only change hat should have been added
Yes!!! 100% agree on her crawling up the rock for the "part of your world" was so off. Maybe it was the cgi, but I think it was the timing...
Idk, I liked the non-animated animals lol. At first Sebastian scared me, but when you think about his animated coutnerpart being a human head coming out of a crab, I am okay with the live-action version.
You are the only person who picked up on ariel killing ursua is a major switch and i believe it is a major misstep. yes it give her, her agency, but she'd already saved eric from drowning. This original scene gave eric a chance to repay the debt and to prove to Triton that surface dwellers are not all even and he earns his right to be more than beefcake and be worthy of the princess.
The actual audience score on rotten tomatoes with 25,000+ reviews (instead of 5,000+ VERIFIED reviews) is 57% at the moment. So that's perfectly in line with Amala's rating.
Many scenes were gone. The scene when she became human without voice, she was very curious and cheerful with many things. That was the funniest scene in the cartoon.
It's not in it ?😢
Adults always manage to ruin children's movies, like what child cares about ariels skin colour or anything? All they want is vibey upbeat music and colours.
Yeah, they underestimate how smart kids really are.