Why Left 4 Dead 1 is better than Left 4 Dead 2

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    1:26 Why Warface is better than Left 4 Dead
    2:26 Ragdoll physics
    4:09 Hanging
    4:47 Waiting in the saferoom
    5:32 Punching as the Infected
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  • @d3dw0d
    @d3dw0d ปีที่แล้ว +5017

    To be fair about the Ragdolls part, I feel it was done this way to make sure defibrillators work properly

    • @frenkchops6723
      @frenkchops6723 ปีที่แล้ว +307

      There's sourcemod plugin which allows you to defib ragdoll

    • @Andrewstown
      @Andrewstown ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Exactly what I was thinking

    • @buketov228
      @buketov228 ปีที่แล้ว +194

      This channel has ran out of ideas for videos long ago. They probably realise this but just don't care.

    • @Toro563
      @Toro563 ปีที่แล้ว +224

      @@buketov228 everyone runs out of ideas at some point
      Nothing to be ashamed of

    • @40kkidlock18
      @40kkidlock18 ปีที่แล้ว +180

      @@buketov228 instead of saying that they've ran out of ideas how about you actually give an idea then

  • @marcfiftyfive_
    @marcfiftyfive_ ปีที่แล้ว +2880

    i like left 4 dead 2 more but i can see why people like the first one more. I liked how you could see your legs and, i prefer the entire style of l4d1 on how its a dark horror zombie movie kind of thing.

    • @ImperiousMax
      @ImperiousMax ปีที่แล้ว +140

      I think the legs removal might have to due with less rendering and, at least in my experience back when playing l4d1, sometimes got in the way when shooting downward and crouching at the same time. It was a nice immersive feature but I can see why they'd get rid of it.

    • @marcfiftyfive_
      @marcfiftyfive_ ปีที่แล้ว +126

      @@ImperiousMax having it as a toggle option would probably make everyone happy i think

    • @_heartbrakesoilder__6461
      @_heartbrakesoilder__6461 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Ian saying your wrong but there’s mods to fix the shit you don’t like yk so really the game don’t matter which one

    • @BoredomandVanity
      @BoredomandVanity ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It’s the same genre. I don’t know why people think L4D1 is more scarier than the second.

    • @captainszasz5836
      @captainszasz5836 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The style is still there in l4d2. Just boot up any of the l4d1 maps/custom maps.

  • @SauniveristicalSecondAccount
    @SauniveristicalSecondAccount 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    L4D: Realistic, Intense, Scary
    L4D2: More Fun, Anxiety increaser

  • @andyfriederichsen
    @andyfriederichsen ปีที่แล้ว +102

    The pump-action shotgun in the first game had two different animations for partial reloads and full reloads. It's also interesting to note that the survivors in L4D1 also reload the semi-automatic shotgun in a way that always keeps their finger near the trigger and ready to fire.

    • @steveweast475
      @steveweast475 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They changed the shotguns in L4D2 so that the player doesn't have to cock the gun each time it gets emptied, this can be annoying in the first game because you never want to drop to 0 shells.

    • @andyfriederichsen
      @andyfriederichsen ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@steveweast475 Thankfully the workshop has shotgun animations that include remembering to cock the shotgun after doing a full reload.

  • @then35t18
    @then35t18 ปีที่แล้ว +1199

    I believe the hanging thing can be avoided by holding jump when going off a surface, and if I had to guess they removed ragdoll physics for resurrection. Probably to avoid complications.

    • @normienormie9425
      @normienormie9425 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Actually it was for performance issues this is stated in the dev commentary which apparently nobody used lol.

    • @clumsyshtick7543
      @clumsyshtick7543 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      There's an addon for characters having ragdoll once dead, whilst kept the defib feature by keeping the model invincible and an model use for the ragdoll physics, for the lag that the stated this was a long time ago which computers were still primitive

    • @HEADSHOTPROLOL
      @HEADSHOTPROLOL 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@normienormie9425still a dumb reason. All games have different technical requirements, but it really reminds me of a Sims 3 to 4 situation where oh the previous game was difficult to run, so instead of figuring out how to achieve the same great and appreciated design just with improved performance like all our competitors are doing, we'll just cut features instead and call it a day. This isn't nearly as bad as the Sims example, but similarly flawed thought process.

    • @cameronnorton5898
      @cameronnorton5898 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like l4d 1 better myself

  • @XanderNiles
    @XanderNiles ปีที่แล้ว +1011

    L4D2 has the vast majority of L4D1 content in it but details like seeing your legs or other unnoticed features like animations or bots behavior is what makes L4D1 somewhat special.

    • @EmeraldCrowz
      @EmeraldCrowz ปีที่แล้ว +99

      the fact that L4D2 added 43 unique zombie dismemberment options alone already makes it more special IMO. And some of the things on this lists are clearly for balance, like bots running ahead in versus when versus scoring is based on distance, the audio cues giving survivors way forward intel in versus, punching allies in infected being annoying. Only a few of these points are actually downgrades.

    • @minersheep8285
      @minersheep8285 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Perhaps it was intended to be this way
      L4D2 has a few faults when compared to L4D1 and I think it’s because Valve wanted us to appreciate L4D1 even after L4D2 came along to replace it

    • @Deleteds_petfish
      @Deleteds_petfish ปีที่แล้ว

      No mods?

    • @julianmacinnis720
      @julianmacinnis720 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@EmeraldCrowz Also I'm sure most of the stuff that isn't in l4d2 anymore can be brought back with mods

    • @Nigmond
      @Nigmond ปีที่แล้ว +18

      why L4D2 is better than L4D1
      * Has a lot of content (melee weapons, new zombies, 4 new fun to play characters (i.e Nick, Coach, Ellis, Rochelle), unique weapons, cool maps which are worth to play,
      * Has a Workshop and Tons of Custom content which can "improve" your gamplay experience
      * You can play L4D in it
      * Has a lot plugins/sourcemods which can fix/improve your gameplay (i.e survivor ragdoll, viewmodel legs, self revive/help, impaled crawl, smart ai).

  • @Kaori_Naim
    @Kaori_Naim ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Another thing in L4D1 is the shoving animation when you have 2 pistols. Sometimes, the characters can shove with their left arm while in L4D2 they can only shove with their right arm. Just another really cool detail that I wish they could've kept it in the second game.

  • @Atomic181
    @Atomic181 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    While I prefer the ragdolls, there's something so satisfying and iconic about the animation. I mean, I can't imagine Ellis being thrown off of a building and sliding across the ground, slightly bouncing his legs due to the impact.

    • @Hunter-ib9ks
      @Hunter-ib9ks ปีที่แล้ว +4

      both are funny in their own ways. the funny thing about l4d1 ragdolls is shooting special infected with a sniper and seeing their body go flying backwards

    • @tjones9097
      @tjones9097 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love when you kill a smoker with a shotgun, and they do a triple backflip.

  • @normienormie9425
    @normienormie9425 ปีที่แล้ว +1505

    The reason ragdolls aren't in l4d2 it is stated in the dev commentary the ragdolls caused too many performance issues they slowed the game down too much.
    EDIT: Why you can't see your legs is because l4d2 uses viewmodels while l4d1 actually uses your world model as your first person model.

    • @daneli4414
      @daneli4414 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      oh

    • @typhoonn3478
      @typhoonn3478 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Weapons animations is still viewmodel tho

    • @6ytepp
      @6ytepp ปีที่แล้ว +87

      l4d1 uses viewmodel and worldmodel at the same time

    • @thanawinsaiwongpanya6947
      @thanawinsaiwongpanya6947 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      wasnt it because of defibrillators?

    • @normienormie9425
      @normienormie9425 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@thanawinsaiwongpanya6947 That could be a factor but in the dev commentary the ragdolls caused too many performance issues

  • @Tri_Nguyen_
    @Tri_Nguyen_ ปีที่แล้ว +380

    The game is 13 years old and I'm still playing it everyday

    • @Kanoku31
      @Kanoku31 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      same

    • @iloveweed9332
      @iloveweed9332 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same

    • @britishrailclass4767
      @britishrailclass4767 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@iloveweed9332 aw I love you too

    • @orlandorichards9942
      @orlandorichards9942 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Man can i tell u,.its my favorite game
      I only have it and resident evil 5 on my pc, I'm even playing rite nw.

    • @victoraviles7817
      @victoraviles7817 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Does online multiplayer still work?

  • @KnivesHELLYEAH1
    @KnivesHELLYEAH1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    0:12
    Louis: YAY I HAVE LEGS!!!
    Other Louis: HEY MAN THATS NOT COOL!!! 😡😡😡 0:32

  • @rogerwright3049
    @rogerwright3049 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    One thing I really love about the first game is just how dumb the AI can be and how funny it is watching them run around in every direction they're NOT facing

  • @colawiththeburnt-outtaste8004
    @colawiththeburnt-outtaste8004 ปีที่แล้ว +560

    I absolutely agree with the last one, the atmosphere. When I play L4D2 maps, I can chill cause its mostly daytime and I can see clearly the surroundings, making it easy to spot the commons and special infecteds. On L4D1, it gave us the maximum chacne to feel the creeps cause its night and its harder to see the infected, specially when you are in a room and the only light you are using are your flashlight, that can make me go panic mode. However, i still love L4D2 for giving us variety.

    • @NovidProkteps
      @NovidProkteps ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yeah, though I enjoy the subtle storytelling in l4d2 more myself, especially in Hard Rain and the Parish

    • @Eyeling
      @Eyeling ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I don't think night is very scary in left 4 dead. I prefer the creepy, abandoned left 4 dead 2 atmosphere, but I wish they didn't ruin the grit of left 4 dead 1 with the campaign ports.

    • @EQOAnostalgia
      @EQOAnostalgia ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No Mercy will always be my favorite. Dark Carnival is a close 2nd. Both games are amazing but with 2, 1 became rather moot.

    • @steveweast475
      @steveweast475 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's like comparing apples to oranges, they are completely different

    • @dimaaltalt
      @dimaaltalt ปีที่แล้ว

      I have no idea why people are comparing l4d with l4d2 like the l4d maps are still in l4d2 i dont really understand both are insanely fun woth the same genre from the same company from the same development team.

  • @MegaCOOLperson12345
    @MegaCOOLperson12345 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    The punching in l4d2 is fixed as infected to prevent trolls knocking you off a cliff as a hunter or a smoker waiting on a ledge.

  • @burrfoottopknot
    @burrfoottopknot ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Part 1 had a tougher and darker vibe, the Tank was something you would fear in part 1

    • @jasperwilliams9619
      @jasperwilliams9619 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      True, I always enjoyed and feared the tank on Left 4 Dead 1 for sticking around to finish the job after incapacitating your character. It put a stressful timer on your allies to try and kill the tank before your team was made 1 member shorter, and I miss the adrenaline rush that came with that

    • @vzoryan1769
      @vzoryan1769 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jasperwilliams9619in l4d2 it happens too when the ai thinks it's the best move
      it not always is though

  • @ThebIuejay
    @ThebIuejay 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Yet people still play l4d2 more than l4d1

  • @DannyCheezits
    @DannyCheezits ปีที่แล้ว +400

    I like left 4 dead 2 more than 1 because of the less grating gun sounds, more content in nearly every way, more variety with item spawns, and the less unfair tanks. If I were to bring one thing from l4d1 into l4d2 it'd be the pistol design because it looks way cooler, but I can see why they changed them because from a distance they look exactly like the magnum

    • @DannyCheezits
      @DannyCheezits ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Also l4d2 ruined a lot of l4d1 maps by adding endless horde events and making cool attention to detail like a metal detector that your not forced to walk through alerting the horde required to do

    • @marshallyoungmandy8434
      @marshallyoungmandy8434 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I feel like L4D1 expert mode is harder. Since the Tank just kill people on the ground rather than trying to downing everyone, also he was faster while burning. You had less specials, which is harder since jockey, charger and spitter are not as much of a threat as an endless cicle of smoker boomer and Hunter. There were also no melees, but there was infinite shove, which is actually weaker. Also no defibilator and no adrenaline. No chainsaw, grenade launcher and M60. You could camp corners which is pretty strong, which is why Spitters exist. But still overall would argue 1 was harder. There could be a gamemode for L4D1 champaign. I know there's mutation, but It Just isn't the same imo.

    • @DannyCheezits
      @DannyCheezits ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marshallyoungmandy8434 oh yeah I tried getting the expert mode achievement in l4d1 and it was brutal. Always got stuck on the finales because of how op tanks were

    • @hihosh1
      @hihosh1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marshallyoungmandy8434 I actually like the grenade launcher, you had one in RE 2 and 3 and same for M60 though I would love to be able to remunition them like on some servers

    • @conkergemini6489
      @conkergemini6489 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree except the Xbox version of l4d 2 with lacking content. It's too inferior!

  • @Killoer
    @Killoer ปีที่แล้ว +159

    For hanging in L4D2, u can bypass it by holding jump, still kind of ridiculous how big the safety hitbox is, and makes custom maps that require platforming hell.

  • @aleksander2214
    @aleksander2214 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    here i come with explanation to some of these
    2:26-defibrelator work propertly
    5:33- too much team killing

    • @alertsvera7288
      @alertsvera7288 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ty

    • @Puppy_Puppington
      @Puppy_Puppington หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not true.. It honestly could’ve worked fine. Just with one more animation set of having the live character “tug” the dead rag doll into the “correct” place/form…

  • @harveyanimations8974
    @harveyanimations8974 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For some reason the terrified screams Francis makes when he’s downed is really heart wrenching for me. He just sounds so scared and alone. That is truly the sound of a scared man. No swearing, no yelling, just fear

    • @dwvynejr
      @dwvynejr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For me I always thought it was funny lol

  • @Cutthroadstreak
    @Cutthroadstreak ปีที่แล้ว +69

    There are actually survivor ragdolls on L4D2 vanilla, if a survivor grabs from a edge and falls it can't be revived with the defibrillator and so it does a ragdoll

  • @tk-hf4oz
    @tk-hf4oz ปีที่แล้ว +202

    I always wondered why Valve bothered to add legs on PC version of L4D1. I think it's the only game and port from Valve where the player can see them.

    • @edward7434
      @edward7434 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      It's still a cool feature.

    • @loutenant9480
      @loutenant9480 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      you can see your legs in team fortress 2 also with a console command cl_first_person_uses_world_model 1

    • @cyn1stre
      @cyn1stre ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Yeah I remember clearly the moment I switched from 360 to PC, seeing these beautiful, majestic legs in action. Not many FPS had this feature back then.

    • @tk-hf4oz
      @tk-hf4oz ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@loutenant9480 It's not really the same thing. You have to use the console to see them.

    • @Ghosty_Face4
      @Ghosty_Face4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cyn1stre Man same I had to switch soon after I downloaded it on my Xbox one via backwards compatibility but the console versions were just dead os I switched to PC and man I don't regret it 60FPS and decent graphics.

  • @p4o3nix99
    @p4o3nix99 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The part where bill drowns is very unrealistic on the 1st game, when someone drowns, thier corpse doesnt float right after they die/drowned, it actually stays in the water for hours/days, so props to l4d2

  • @Anatoly_Maly
    @Anatoly_Maly ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Атмосфера ужаса в 1 части конечно шикарная и я её люблю🖤, но 2 часть сделана именно для веселья и бодрого коопа, в этом плане их нельзя сравнивать 💁‍♂️

  • @Stupid_YT_bring_back_nicknames
    @Stupid_YT_bring_back_nicknames ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Как же мне нравилась перезарядка дробовика в 1 части. Либо следишь за патронами и моментально стреляешь после перезарядки, либо доводишь до 0 патронов и долго перезаряжаешь (анимация в конце дольше и ты не можешь зразу же выстрелить)

  • @ismailragimkhanov9204
    @ismailragimkhanov9204 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Left 4 Dead 1 - рассматривался как хоррор, а left 4 dead - как зомби боевик.Этим они тоже отличаются.

  • @guitarsandcars2586
    @guitarsandcars2586 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3:44 that part kills me ever time. "Dammit i-" dead, lol.

  • @Snezit1
    @Snezit1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Things that are improvements in my eyes is leaving the safe room when someone is connecting and no infected friendly knockback most of the other stuff is fairly minor differences

  • @snowik
    @snowik ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Ну, вообще насчёт физики рагдолла, при падении во второй лефте создаётся такая анимация из-за того что во второй части есть дефиб, а в первой его нету, поэтому смерть в первой лефте рагдольная.

    • @Fr0dech
      @Fr0dech ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Правильно, потому что рэгдоллы всегда на сурсе были клиент-сайдными.
      Другой вопрос почему нельзя было их подлатать чтобы они были сервер-сайдными.

    • @fait0n
      @fait0n ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Вероятно отключили рагдолл чтобы труп выжившего всегда оставался на месте гибели (чтобы оживить), а не улетел чёрт знает куда от взрыва гранаты или чтобы заражённые труп не запинали куда подальше.

    • @mnk5610
      @mnk5610 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      рэгдолл в первой лефте какой-то стремный и модельки плавно двигаются, а не резко как в реальной жизни, я понимаю движок старый, но рэгдолл в том же гарис моде выглядит живее

    • @blade8271
      @blade8271 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Сколько я наиграл во вторую часть, но дефиб не пригодился ни разу. Наверное самая бесполезная вещь в игре из за которой похерили регдолл

    • @user-zc4sj5by8z
      @user-zc4sj5by8z ปีที่แล้ว

      Могли бы сделать анимацию переворачивания на спину для исп дефиба. Наверное это запаристо было для разработчиков.

  • @pigzera
    @pigzera ปีที่แล้ว +60

    L4D1 was more polished. L4D2 looks like it was rushed in development to release it asap. But i bought it in the day it released (on disk btw) and i remember at the time it was one of the most anticipated games in 2009.

    • @antarticstorm7991
      @antarticstorm7991 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I mean l4d2 was literally out a year later after the first game. It should have been out in 2010 l4d2 got boycott cause of it.

    • @hunlepto2239
      @hunlepto2239 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@antarticstorm7991 The boycott happened before the release though.

    • @antarticstorm7991
      @antarticstorm7991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hunlepto2239 yeah when the announcement was made that it was going to release a year after the first gsme

    • @fnutek3720
      @fnutek3720 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What do you mean l4d1 was more polished? L4D2 is the exact same game, except they removed big fps hogs that had little to no impact on gameplay or atmosphere, but they added way more immersive zombies and special infected. They also developed on the universe instead of rehashing it. L4D2 is objectively a way more polished game

    • @Phenixtri
      @Phenixtri ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fnutek3720 its a more optimized game not more polished on account the needlessly scrapped alot of features to cut development time.

  • @1funneh1
    @1funneh1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Honestly I think the stories happening at random times of day in L4D2 really helps you feel like the Green Flu is a problem that requires constant attention no matter what time of day. The survivors aren’t always going to be safe in the daytime. But i can admit that that takes away from the overall “horror” aspect of the game.
    Honestly though, maybe since I’m playing with friends. Outside of like Hunter and Charger jump scares the game in general isn’t really scary? Maybe that’s just me and my decade of playing talking

  • @guit77
    @guit77 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i think the part in l4d1 where bots go out by themselves waiting for you ahead is bad compared to l4d2 bot simply following you, because if you were to play versus, they aren't as alert and ready when special infected spawn in, which can cause adventage for infected team, so way l4d2 does is it is better in my opinion

  • @mosshivenetwork117
    @mosshivenetwork117 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I do agree with some things but Left 4 Dead 2 will remain an awesome part of my childhood.
    I don't like how some campaigns are during the day because it takes away from the dark atmosphere.
    HOWEVER, you could say that "Left 4 Dead 1 taught us fear while Left 4 Dead 2 taught us to fight back."
    I guess that contributes to atmosphere.

    • @jjwrx8
      @jjwrx8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Eh like the variety in l4d2 myself can't blame the L4D2 cast for waiting until they can see before going out in a apocalypse 🤷Tbh missions atmosphere like swap fever/hard rain and dark carnival all really added a whole bunch extra for me L4D1 was guilty of a desaturated dark color pallet like too many other games also were at the time.

    • @mosshivenetwork117
      @mosshivenetwork117 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jjwrx8 your profile picture reminds me of sex. :(

  • @hunlepto2239
    @hunlepto2239 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I'll probably link this video to the TLS devs, because the hanging trigger and the saferoom door lock should all be added to L4D2. We can live without the others (especially without the infected punching, that's kinda dumb in my opinion), but I feel these things are pretty important overall. I also like the music cues in versus, but that would be a too big buff for the survivors, considering they're already overpowered in versus if played properly, it would also make sneaky hunter attacks impossible if the player listens to the cue.

  • @4ydovishe924
    @4ydovishe924 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Скорее всего нашёт регдолов, из-за того что в 1 части не было дефибрилятора были регдолы, а в 2 части он есть, поэтому что-бы регдол не багался и т.д., его убрали. Но хорошо что есть такая кнопка как: "Мастерская"

  • @blacklightfreddy251
    @blacklightfreddy251 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    yes, but l4d2 includes all characters and campaigns of l4d1 and a new game for the same price as l4d1, also features a better hud, more infected, more weapons and new mechanics

    • @edl4767
      @edl4767 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yea but l4d1 has no jockey so i'd rather play that lmao

  • @illumineauxhair
    @illumineauxhair ปีที่แล้ว +178

    The legs thing was such a big deal for me. I was so sad to see it's absence in L4D2.

    • @forkyou2356
      @forkyou2356 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah because you will definitely be looking down the whole time while killing zombies..........

    • @SonicMaster519
      @SonicMaster519 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@forkyou2356 I see you don't understand tiny details that really immerse you more and why they're so important.

    • @oicutleldeyovzecuhpwe
      @oicutleldeyovzecuhpwe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does cl_first_person_uses_world_model 1 not work in L4D2? It's a Source game isn't it?

    • @illumineauxhair
      @illumineauxhair ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@forkyou2356 I think it’s weirder to look down and see nothing when the original releases included legs.

    • @JuiceboxCE
      @JuiceboxCE ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@forkyou2356 You're really just out here supporting the digression of features, huh

  • @Albeenor
    @Albeenor ปีที่แล้ว +14

    L4D2’s worst mistake was changing the pistol models

    • @white2765
      @white2765 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not exactaly. Imagine seeing a magnum At the distance But whem you get closer to It It was a Pistol.

    • @Mrnoobestreturns
      @Mrnoobestreturns ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m 1 month late but nah the biggest mistake L4D2 has is the survivor AI or Witch AI cuz these 2 AI completely gives the survivors a massive disadvantage cuz The AI revives on spit wasting half there HP or all of it and the infected a 50% chance of a massive disadvantage cuz Witches are easy as hell to kill with tier 1 shotguns or tier 2 shotguns or if the witches are standing up they go to the worst spots possible and also take the tank spawns
      Thats L4D2 biggest flaw cuz all the others I think are Minior issues that don’t effect me at all or are understandable why they removed it from L4D1

    • @J4MIL
      @J4MIL ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Facts l4d1 pistol is goated

  • @thesuperboss26
    @thesuperboss26 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I loved the guns sound better and one and also how your weapons wobble as if you’re actually walking with them unlike the stiff way in 2

  • @gabsu6904
    @gabsu6904 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An interesting thing is that the survivors get the leg in the shape of a 4 in l4d2 when they die

  • @bobic8431
    @bobic8431 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    В L4D1 разные анимации перезарядки есть только у дробовиков, а в L4D2 только у пистолетов. Плюс во второй части у охотничьей снайперки из-за бага может появиться анимация перезарядки с затвором, которая была вырезана в первой.

    • @Ya_vertel_eti_psewdonimy
      @Ya_vertel_eti_psewdonimy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      с пистолетом в первой тоже самое, когда ты перезаряжаешь 1 пистолет и берешь во время перезарядки второй

  • @WillDoesnt
    @WillDoesnt ปีที่แล้ว +129

    I still wish they added viewmodel LEGS in L4D2. I think they removed it for more FPS value, but still the immersion was so cool.

    • @murloc9820
      @murloc9820 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      it was because l4d1 used your world model and l4d2 uses view model

    • @beyond_5dtemp
      @beyond_5dtemp ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@murloc9820 This dude literally just copy and pasted what somebody else said lol

    • @PlagueDoctor-87
      @PlagueDoctor-87 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's still not a complete answer, though. The world model could be chopped in half vertically and use both. Most likely it got removed due to performance (reminder that this game *had* to run decently on a Xbox360)

    • @murloc9820
      @murloc9820 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PlagueDoctor-87 could be but isnt, so my answer is correct

    • @britz2575
      @britz2575 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@beyond_5dtemp And so what? does that mean they can't tell other people what they learned from other people?

  • @seiniormesut4710
    @seiniormesut4710 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I realized in l4d1 tank is the only special infected you can't see his legs or even his arms when he standing or moving,you still see his arms when attacking (lack animation attack incapacitated survivor) but not when you looking down.

  • @demonicrobot50
    @demonicrobot50 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2:30 hpmf (crack)

    • @I_have_nothing1-1
      @I_have_nothing1-1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is going to hell real fast!

  • @SpectralOne
    @SpectralOne ปีที่แล้ว +27

    7:23 мелодии особых заражённых (bacteria sounds), слишком сильно их палят, за охотника можно стоять не издавая и звука, но выжившие будут знать о тебе, даже если ты стоишь, да и в принципе, они сильно триггерят команду, и куда круче когда ты помнишь как звучат сами заражённые, а не мотив в их мелодии.

    • @kriegtech1651
      @kriegtech1651 ปีที่แล้ว

      Забавно что во второ части я слышал эти же звуки

  • @the_pyroland
    @the_pyroland ปีที่แล้ว +7

    3:08
    Louis: hey everyone let's sleep in the car
    Everyone: ok

  • @Spykitty358
    @Spykitty358 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Most of the differences are small things that don't usually effect the gameplay at all. The bots not leading the point in versus is a good thing that's not in l4d2 because I've had a bot in l4d1 run in and die. It's not exactly something that makes them better, just makes them careless. And when it comes to mods L4D2 is going through a new era of script moding that changes AI behavior allowing them to do many things only players can do. We're able to make our own animations now. However that's only on PC and not console.
    And the grabbing ledges issue in 2 can be solved by simply holding the jump button. But yea that still gets annoying.

  • @Vukan.Kos.
    @Vukan.Kos. ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:04 I'm pretty sure bodies first sink and then float after 3 days.

  • @mofuhh
    @mofuhh ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You do realize bots only move on their own in the first game when there are meds, pills or guns nearby right?

  • @colawiththeburnt-outtaste8004
    @colawiththeburnt-outtaste8004 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    l4D1 teaches us fear, L4D2 teaches us how to fight.

    • @Isaacfess
      @Isaacfess 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well said.

  • @mopyrshu2617
    @mopyrshu2617 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    0:31 luis: cool, looks like counter-strike
    луис: круто, прямо как в контр-страйке

  • @ThatJapanArtist
    @ThatJapanArtist ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I agree with these problems, but most of them can be restored or enhanced via mods call thanks to the awesome STEAM community behind this game 🤙

  • @xxovereyexx5019
    @xxovereyexx5019 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    L4D2 is built like that for more competitive gameplay.
    You should make part 2 "why L4D2 is better than L4D"

  • @HazyHaydn
    @HazyHaydn ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Didn’t even watch the video yet but I agree full-heartedly.

  • @Kacpa2
    @Kacpa2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can avoid hanging in L4D2 by holding the space after initial jump.

  • @zero_cali_4772
    @zero_cali_4772 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Hey man, want to play Left 4 Dead 2 with its vastly more packed with content game and refined original maps?”
    “Nah man, Left 4 Dead 1 has *checks notes* rag doll animations, 2 shotgun animations(very important), and the ability to grief your infected teammates by pushing them around!”

  • @mattiag1846
    @mattiag1846 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    05:25 this happened in "campaign" too, I remember when with my old slowly PC and (rarely) enter after somebody open the door

  • @aandric
    @aandric ปีที่แล้ว +21

    4:10 you can completely negate this by holding space bar when you jump
    sidenote: this even works for just walking off edges, you'll obv have to jump first beforehand but you can still hold space and just hold W off an edge

    • @empathysunstrider387
      @empathysunstrider387 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      youre all saying that to him like hes not the first who is used or find that.

  • @Ninesniper
    @Ninesniper ปีที่แล้ว

    for seeing your legs and ragdoll physics can you get them ported to l4d2 or no?

  • @autoiko4300
    @autoiko4300 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:44
    Bill: “Dammit [it was deeper than I thought]!”
    Louis: “Bill…” 😐
    Bill: **Floats back up**
    Louis: **Happy**🙂

  • @mylonoceda
    @mylonoceda ปีที่แล้ว +21

    L4D1 was created at a time when Valve was drunk with Source's power of physics. L4D2 was created at a time when Valve cared more about competitivity.

  • @shinramune9002
    @shinramune9002 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love L4D1 for its horror environment and i love L4D2 for its characters. Both games are great

    • @Developer888
      @Developer888 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hopefully l43 has all that made ld1 great and what made l4d great with without all the bad stuff 2 had

    • @nightmaregintama406
      @nightmaregintama406 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Developer888no, source 2 l4d2

  • @mastifixggg
    @mastifixggg ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Атмосферу первой и второй лефты можно легко объяснить. В первой лефте персонажей и вообщем ситуацию объясняют как - отчаяние, безвыходность и естественно хоррор. Вторая часть - надежда, шансы на спасения, тут тоже есть хоррор но разрабы по пытались во второй части сделать акцент на то, что у персонажей есть шансы на выживание. В первой части музыка в игре такая, по типу очень вялая и грустная, устрашающе и.т.д. Во второй части музыка такая же, но там больше рокк и музыка ассоциируется с весельем, лор игры так и даёт понять что у выживших во второй части все хорошо, они справятся, они вместе держутся! По типу того, во время как в первой мы видем полную отчаение и очень нагнетающий саунд и ситуацию, все это соопровождается пугающими саундами.

    • @Lone_Wolf-xd6hs
      @Lone_Wolf-xd6hs ปีที่แล้ว

      Я так понял ты видел видео на aREC

    • @mastifixggg
      @mastifixggg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lone_Wolf-xd6hs да, я с ним согласен потому что

  • @kevinvelasquez1553
    @kevinvelasquez1553 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the common infected also seem to have more variety in left 4 dead 1 than left 4 dead 2, the ones in the second game mainly just wear tank tops, while in the first game there's infected with all kinds of clothes, mainly business uniforms but you get the point

  • @WonderlandWarGaming
    @WonderlandWarGaming ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I do agree/disagree on some of the stuff in the video. But I believe this video should be called "Why Left 4 Dead 1 is better than Left 4 Dead 2 at details".
    Here's my responses to things I disagree with:
    2:26 Ragdoll physics were removed to make it easier for you to use a defibrillator, I know about the mod that lets you use the defib on ragdolls, but I can still imagine that it's possible to grief, for instance, what if a player shoots the ragdoll in a pit or in an unreachable spot? They also shouldn't float in water because if the survivors can't float, why would the dead body float?
    5:33 This was likely removed so it isn't as easy to grief.
    7:23 Infected spawn music likely made it way too predictable for the survivors and it would make it harder for the infected to plan attacks.
    7:45 The atmosphere changed deliberately. L4D1 has more of a darker atmosphere while L4D2 has a more atmosphere that encourages the survivors to be more badass. It's not to say L4D2 always has the goofy atmosphere because it can definitely be more dark.

  • @cursedvan
    @cursedvan ปีที่แล้ว +9

    L4d2 bots are better because they stick closer to you

    • @magnusgejs3808
      @magnusgejs3808 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ye

    • @cooler_carpington
      @cooler_carpington 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But they still have a hard time getting the hunter off of you

  • @dalaxdercrisper957
    @dalaxdercrisper957 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Left 4 dead 1 you had infinite shoving where you will never get tired of spamming shoving at zombies. Left 4 dead 2 had Shoving cap limit to keep the game balance. The more frequently you shove a weapon, the longer your stamina shove to take refill.

    • @probablybears
      @probablybears ปีที่แล้ว +3

      L4D1 actually did have a shoving limit, but it was for versus and survival. Solo/coop campaign was the only place it was infinite.

  • @Destinedfor
    @Destinedfor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you have a potato PC or specs, joining in the middle of the game or after it started minutes ago will take you to the You Are Dead screen as usual for like 20 secs as special infected, giving a disadvantage of time to your entire infected team. #5 or at 4:49 is a good example for it.

  • @xxovereyexx5019
    @xxovereyexx5019 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The only thing that i miss in l4d1 is Hunter Movement & Animation which is looks more cool.

  • @flstrd
    @flstrd ปีที่แล้ว +7

    8:25 life of a discord mod

  • @Totally_Random0
    @Totally_Random0 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:41 Bill just preformed non existence

  • @midoritranslationchannel
    @midoritranslationchannel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    L4D1: Survival horror game as it intend shall be.
    L4D2: *KILLING ZOMBIES IS SO MUCH FUN!!!*

  • @thebadmankev
    @thebadmankev ปีที่แล้ว +4

    also the hunter has various animations when he’s jumping from wall to wall and can even jump at survivors LEGS first.
    not a lot of people know about this.

  • @heracit4012
    @heracit4012 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Я бы сказал, что для меня решающее преимущество 1 l4d над 2 в плотной и темной атмосфере, но не совсем так. Атмосфера игры была крепко связана с концепциями, заложенными в неё. Ну вы помните "кооперативное выживание" и пр. Первая часть - это идейно цельный проект, где механики связаны с дизайном, с поведением. Вторая сделана на основе первой.. но цельная ли она?
    БТВ, пункт с поведением аи-тиммейтов тоже весомый для меня.
    В первой части чувствовалось, что "нам нужно пройти". Была в этом ощущении и интрига, и мотив выживания. Во второй части просто прешься через карты и если приглушить развлечение, получаемое в процессе, то может стать неудобно от идиотии.

  • @Mr.Waksal
    @Mr.Waksal หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In my opinion, Left 4 Dead 1 has a much scarier atmosphere than Left 4 Dead 2. It's just a shame that in Left 4 Dead 1 there aren't as many weapon choices as Left 4 Dead 2.

  • @_.oof._
    @_.oof._ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i love both but i play l4d2 mainly cause the 1st one is more leaned into a horror kind of thing but l4d2 is more of an epic zombie movie that you control the characters, and i prefer the 2nd one but l4d1 still epic

  • @lazyxeno9404
    @lazyxeno9404 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I believe we are already aware of this. L4D1 is unquestionably a masterpiece, and L4D2 can be a bit of a rush, but thanks to modders, things are made feasible and the game is made even more pleasant.

    • @RavenGaminghaven1
      @RavenGaminghaven1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      f

    • @Z0MBUSTER
      @Z0MBUSTER ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome

    • @cord2706
      @cord2706 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Imagine being so incredibly wrong, l4d2 is goated l4d1 was the prototype

    • @unidaboss8133
      @unidaboss8133 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      "L4d2 can be a bit of a rush" bruh

    • @DirectOpinions
      @DirectOpinions ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@cord2706 l4d2 was rushed and literally a whole ass update into another game

  • @AlmStGummyBear
    @AlmStGummyBear ปีที่แล้ว +6

    0:40 huh I did not know about that.

  • @Candy-manGaming
    @Candy-manGaming ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very biased video. Guns have proper reload animations in l4d2 and most of these can easily be replicated with mods in the workshop.

  • @neilgonzalezgonzales9710
    @neilgonzalezgonzales9710 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:21 "Lets Go", "Lets Go"
    Francis: nop :v

  • @syahareensharani6869
    @syahareensharani6869 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Without L4D2 there would be no One Man Cheeseburger Apocalypse

  • @milespl
    @milespl ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm love left 4 dead 1 and 2

  • @casedistorted
    @casedistorted ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember the days in L4D1 before they patched it where you could infinitely melee by using a combo. Then they added that stamina cap so you could only melee push every so often.
    Also L4D1 I will always love more because you can play with the bots solo and feel like it’s a complete game. L4D2 has more content and everything but it never felt like the same game I wanted. It felt goofy and more joking. I wanted the L4D1 I saw from the beta footage.

  • @andyandersson5497
    @andyandersson5497 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    imagine waiting in the saferoom for an hour just for the dude to disconnect

  • @bedrylo3529
    @bedrylo3529 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:25 in l4d2 the defib would be useless cause the body could fall into some map holes that is not reachable for others to revive you. but i think if valve wanted to add the physics with ragdolls they prob could make it possible. also i do think if there was a worksop for l4d1 it would still be popular today i mean thats my opinion but anyway

    • @CoolyCools
      @CoolyCools 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pretty sure ragdolls are client side

  • @TheTommyb171
    @TheTommyb171 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In fact pro player when l4d2 came out didn't even played it lol, we started playing l4d2 month later cuz l4d1 is even harder in his way

  • @GreenTV64
    @GreenTV64 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “DAMMI-“
    Famous last words of Bill before drowning

  • @Leo_8753
    @Leo_8753 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can ragdoll in vanilla left 4 dead 2.
    It's very spefic but you need to slip off a ledge and grab on to it, you need to make sure zombies don't hit you and that no one helps you up. when your hp finally goes all the way down you will regain control of your character while falling off, only then your dead body will be a ragdoll .

  • @AlphaJnx
    @AlphaJnx ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the l4d2.
    Cuz the reload on the shotgun sucks especially cuz it's dark af.
    Also it is funny when you got hit by the witch ur body (ragdoll) just fly away XD
    Also for the versus mode. Well you know the reason why they removr the Knockback
    For the theme song for them i think is to balance it out especially hunter on versus mode. Cuz a cue sound is well.. you know.

  • @RIFchanskiy
    @RIFchanskiy ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Лефта первая в моем сердечке❤️, шикарная игра) Спасибо за такие фишки, которых не застать во 2 лефте👍

  • @drip_
    @drip_ ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Doesn't matter. Both of them are good. Just fills me with so much of nostalgia. Damn it

    • @Pain..........
      @Pain.......... ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn't agree more brotha

    • @drip_
      @drip_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Pain.......... 😭 I love this game

    • @Pain..........
      @Pain.......... ปีที่แล้ว

      Who doesn't? One of the most nostalgic games in the world

  • @AugustoV8Cesar
    @AugustoV8Cesar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It took more than 15 years for someone to make a video, upload it to youtube and say what I already knew...

  • @brutalgod9204
    @brutalgod9204 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    К сожалению 1 часть столь шедевральной игры буквально утеряна в аналах игровой истории. Онлайн 1 части крайне мал, большинство игроков отдают предпочтение 2 части за "новизну". Инк, спасибо что уделил внимание 1 части в нынешнее время, большое тебе спасибо.

    • @SuSLi4eKkK
      @SuSLi4eKkK ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Я по настроению все также играю либо в первую, либо во вторую

    • @Remoway
      @Remoway ปีที่แล้ว +4

      А смысл?)
      Первая часть легче (привет казуалы), у неё нет воркшопа, у неё кривые анимации от первого лица.
      Не вижу смысла играть в первую часть, когда ты можешь играть во вторую.. Хотя, если только ради ачивок.

    • @brutalgod9204
      @brutalgod9204 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Remoway 1 часть больше с упором на атмосферу. Во 2 части пропала вся та атмосфера, пропали многие звуки. 2 часть делалась как зомби-шутер без элемента типо хоррора.

    • @ddropfaron633
      @ddropfaron633 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brutalgod9204 интересный факт: Атмосфера частей разница по простому объяснению... Место первых компаний проходит в одной части страны (потом чутка в другой). А место вторых компаний проходит уже в другой. Именно из-за разницы между местом действия атмосферы разнятся.
      P.S. ну и ради разнообразия, нельзя же было просто сделать хоррор локации на манер первой части и сказать "прогресс"...

    • @kriegtech1651
      @kriegtech1651 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ddropfaron633 атмосферу понерфили не из-за локаций а из-за бэкграунда, первое это отчаяние, второе надежда

  • @Copro_Cobra
    @Copro_Cobra ปีที่แล้ว +6

    L4D навсегда останется в моем пожилом сердечке😥

  • @PrincessLadyRain
    @PrincessLadyRain ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll be honest, I'm so used actually seeing my legs in l4d2 cause of a SourceMod plugin as well as ragdolls when survivors die. I don't ever recall the l4d1 bots rushing ahead, but considering they are seemingly more braindead even with bot improvers I wouldn't be surprised if they can rush.

  • @doggoadexx2680
    @doggoadexx2680 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the 3rd one, is there a way for the ragdoll physics to have a ragdoll with a lot of weight to it so it barely moves but can still possess a lifeless feature?

    • @Something_Disgusting
      @Something_Disgusting ปีที่แล้ว

      There's cl_ragdoll_gravity, which adjusts ragdolls' gravity factor.

  • @XxWinnerPGCxX
    @XxWinnerPGCxX ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly there isn’t much in my mind that makes l4d1 better. Maybe the hunter pounce animation, the versus scoring and maybe the ragdoll. Everything else IMO is better in l4d2. Also sometimes interesting to play with only hunter boomer and smoker.

  • @Ro_Yoshi
    @Ro_Yoshi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can’t like half of these things hinges he remade with mods in l4d2? I am pretty sure I seen a survivor leg script already

  • @dewaj9749
    @dewaj9749 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I fully respect the opinion, I really do. But, if you are playing the game on Steam, there is a modding community that have made mods (obviously). There are a few that fix these problems, like Lux's Survivor Leg Script, which allows you to see your legs in Left 4 Dead 2, and there are a few mods that allow you to ragdoll on death. I won't name all of them here, but most of the problems you are having have already been made into mods for L4D2, to enhance your experience. And it's okay if you don't like to mod your games and just like to play vanilla and vanilla alone. Just letting you know that there are fixes.

  • @melixrism
    @melixrism ปีที่แล้ว +1

    honestly i think athmosphere is the most hiting part, and i really wanna know, is there any mods that gives this athmosphere to l4d2?