These tests mean nothing just a FYI. Nobody ever tests in an area that is loaded with electronics, wifi signals and lighting, It would be more realistic. Most units will past any test in a open field with nothing in it. Just a heads up for anyone looking for a wireless unit.
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Thanks to Shure for supporting KDH’s channel by sending him a wireless unit for us to check out! I’ve heard this unit is incredible, and it’s nice to know it had the KDH stamp of approval. Feel free to send KDH more free Shure gear to let him check out (and maybe even give away to us? 😬🙏🏻🤞🏻)!
Im a touring musician from the U.S. (currently on tour in Europe) and this is my second tour using this wireless system and i’ve had no issues at all with it. I don’t use a patch bay so i personally have never had any issues with sound while tuning. I’d recommend this to anyone looking into getting a wireless system. Loved the review KDH!
They have utterly nailed it. One thing to say, I know you called it out but the real enemy of your wireless pack isn't distance, but other wireless systems. Three weeks ago I was on stage in Thurles with my Line 6 G50 and it was utterly creased by a HDMI transmitter so one express delivery from Thomann and I had it in time for a fairly ginormous stage at Forever Young in Kildare. I had to compete with a gazillion smartphones, stage cameras with transmitters, 9 wireless mics, other instrument wireless and I left my iPhone in my back pocket. It just kept going. The battery is incredible. I was getting a bit conscious about my environmental footprint. I don't have to spend ages setting it up looking for bandwidth and the tuner is super handy. It's utter win. I'm actually very surprised at Line 6. They bought a company that led in this space and haven't updated their line is a very long time. This is the only show in town for working guitarists right now.
That is why the 2.4 and 5 GHz bands are not used in professional settings. You'll only see VHF and UHF there and for events with a lot of wireless, there will often be an RF coordinator to make sure your guitar doesn't use the same exact frequency as another band's microphone or the wireless video transmission by the camera man. But at events with not enough wireless transmission by a large enough number of different groups to warrant an RF coordinator, problems can still occur, so talking to the other people using wireless there is key.
10:36 I stay in Edinburgh and had to put up with The Lumineers playing at the castle a few weeks back. They were tuning up every couple of songs and I could hear it from a mile away. To be fair it sounded better than any of their songs.
One thing to note about all the wireless systems using 2,4 GHz frequencies is that the actual frequency bandwidth for each of the channels is 22 MHz. For example the frequency for channel 6 is 2,437 GHz but because the bandwidth is 22 MHz the actual frequency is actually 2,425-2,449 GHz, spreading 11 MHz to both sides. Because of this some channels will clash with each other. With channel 6 it would share frequencies with channels 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10. To minimize the risk of interference with other wireless units on stage, the only channels you could use are channels 1, 6, and 11. If your band has 2 guitars and a bass all on 2,4 GHz systems you'd be able to get by with minimal risk of interference but if there's any more wireless systems like an acoustic guitar or in-ear monitor systems using 2,4 GHz you'd have guaranteed interference problems. Also wifi routers and other devices using 2,4 GHz in the venues can cause interference. With the added benefit of the 5.8 GHz range you'd have more options since the "frequency spill" isn't as much of a problem allowing more than just 3 channels to be used. And if you still somehow have problems you can use the scan feature on the Shure unit to quickly find a new better channel. As for the channel groups on the GLXD16+, according to Shure group 1 is best if 1-2 systems are used and group 2 is best if 2-5 systems are used. Group 3 is best if used in entirely wifi free space/area. Because of the option to use both 2,4 and 5,8 GHz I think the GLXD16+ is the best wireless unit using the 2,4 GHz and 5,8 GHz frequencies. Just keep it away from wifi routers.
You don't have to select a frequency. The pedal will find the best frequency automatically. I own the previous version (only 2.4GHz) and in my previous band, the other guitarist also had the same unit. Never had any problem. The two units selected different channels (11 and 6 from what I remember). It is really plug and play.
As I said, the pedal will do a quick scan for the best frequency. What I said in the original comment about frequencies still applies to every system from every manufacturer using 2,4 GHz.
The test should be done in an environment that mimics a real scenario: in a stage with LOTS of RF interference like in-ears, radio mics, LED screen, WiFI routers, phones, etc. That's the important thing!, also, a long range like the one shown here means nothing unless you're someone who has a stage tech that changes your pedals and presets for you, like a class A act but in that case that person already has the budget for a more pro wireless unit!, also, most guitar players are glued to their big pedalboards so there's not much need for a long range, I'm more interested on how this affects latency, frequency response and dynamic range, if you plug your guitar with a cable into a Fuzz it'll sound totally different that plugging into the fuzz with this or with a buffered pedal before for example
People love their tuners - so I don't think too many people would give up using their favorite tuner, especially if they're like me and love stroboscopic tuners :)
"Oh yeah... we've definitely outdone most stages at this point" (aka, auditoriums) lol... The point about the width on the pedalboard (with top mounted jacks) was brilliant. And yeah, the input jack is great as well. I am sold. That is what I call an excellent review. And I'm glad you didn't slip on dog poo going across the lawn. Oh, and the issue with the wireless -or- wired conundrum is to have a switch that is a quick tap to alternate wired/wireless and a 2-3 sec hold for tuner mode. Thanks for your efforts and thoughts.
This video and some comments sold me on it. I just ordered one. My tuner took a shit last week and I have a festival coming up in September I need a wireless unit for. Of course this thing does both haha
I got the newer version of this after having the older version, which was great . They made improvements which makes things better .This is been a game changer. Also, the tuner is a nice touch. As for other units, you get what you pay for ,this is more like a professional unit and it’s a permanent addition to my rig…..Keep on rockin.
Glad you liked it. I had the prior Gen for years. I had to replace one battery. After 3 years in a transmitter. I did upgrade to the new one and sold the old one to the other guitaist in the band. One thing you didn't mention you can have multiple transmitters paired with one pedal. Only one can be active at a time but make for great fast guitar switching. Power off the one your wearing. Grab other guitar flick the power button and your now running with new guitar. My live rig is kemper stage mounted to a Temple audio pedal board. This sits on there as well. I have a chioks power supply with also has USB ports. I can charge the transmitters if needed. I have everything wired with the power ports on the temple audio and a metal flight case. Easiest travel rig I have ever had. The flight case has wheels I have a double guitar gig bag. I can go from gig to show in one trip from car. Also not sure about comments about noise and so on. I have never had an issue. I play and live in a metropolitan area in the US. Have played many street festivals with this outside. The latest one was 5k people watching us but was huge festival covering 10 city blocks. 8 stages all performing. Noisy bars with bad wiring. Never an issue.
You could use a volume pedal after the tuner to have it on all the time and mute for tuning. That's what I do. I never touch the tuner this way. I actually use the pedal as an expression pedal into my Tonex, but it's set as a digital volume pedal.
As someone who bought the previous version (GLXD16) just 4-5 years ago, I'm absolutely pissed that they didn't made the new version compatible with the old one. A few months ago I was looking to buy a second bodypack in order to more easily switch between guitars during gigs(and also, always good to have a backup, although I bring a 25ft cable just in case), and realized it has been discontinued, which was very disappointing since I specifically spent more money on a Shure wireless rather than a smaller brand to ensure it would be supported for a long time. Guess I was wrong... I've learned that an updated version was coming and had hope that I could buy the new bodypack and it would work with the GLXD6. Nope. If I want a second body pack, either I need to find one used (they're nowhere to be found on the used maket, unless you want to pay as much for a used bodypack than you paid for the whole kit brand new...), or buy a completely new wireless system... Thanks, Shure.... 😑 Planned obsolescence at its best. I mean, I get that the new one is dual band and not the previous one, but still, there is absolutely no reason why it couldn't just fallback using only 2.4GHz when paired with the older pedal. The technology they're using isn't much different than Wi-Fi... Imagine if you bought a brand new router and then your 3 years old tablet wouldn't connect to because it doesn't support WiFi 6... That's ridiculous. They clearly did this so you buy the whole thing all over again and I feel betrayed as a customer, especially since I have absolutely no reason to upgrade to the new version, it always worked flawlessly.
Great review as always! Please cover the newly released Tom Delonge Fender Strat. It's Mexican made, and $1300. I don't feel that is worth it, but I'm curious on your take.
How do they detect the IN jack connection on the Sure? Do they perhaps use a stereo female IN jack and plugging in a mono jack cable shorts the Right to Ground to detect an IN cable is connected. If so, if your board has a stereo patch, just connect that with a stereo cable so you don't complete the circuit until you connect a mono jack cable to your board. I don't know the Sure unit, so this is just a guess.
Getting around the patch bay situation can be easy if your board can be arranged to suit. I had the same situation when I got my Boss WL-50 and all I did was position the receiver on my board so that the wired input was accessible if I needed to use it and used that as my wired input option to my board instead of my patch bay..... Granted that may not work for everyone with their pedal board layouts but it really can be a simple work around
A press and hold on the footswitch to switch between wired/wireless would be your best bet. That way you still get the tuner/mute functionality but can switch between without having to fart about with the unit itself :) Looks a nice bit if kit for any gigging musicbod
There is a tuner pass thru setting that does exactly what you are talking about. Press the button it mutes when you tune, press again the screen goes off and it’s back to a pass thru and works as normal!
The range test made me chuckle as it reminded me of a story I heard about a singer using a wireless system and walking out through the audience in a natural bowl and as he was hearing the band from some way away he was singing a second or two behind the band!! I have no idea if it was true but it made me laugh.
For those asking about using it where there is loads of different radio signals in the immediate area - it works great. I have used even a cheaper Nux wireless unit (5 GHz) in an area that was highly populated and with plenty of cellphones, wifi routers, Bluetooth signals, etc. and had no issues. The Shure unit is far more robust than the cheaper non-pro units - it is going to be very rare that you get any interference because it switches channels to keep that from happening. As far as how these sound - you are not going to notice any difference between the wireless and a cable. Some might claim "but latency" - it is just has never been an issue in my experience. Certainly if you get really far away from the receiver you are going to increase your latency but by the time you would get far enough to notice the signal will drop out. Wireless is a solid technology - just look at how many big bands you see using wireless when you go to a concert.
Latency: People still don't understand that all waves on the electromagnetic spectrum, so both radio and electrical travel at the speed of light! The reason computers have latency is because they do crap loads of different things and so they get qued and have to wait their turn, which can be micro to milliseconds, a wireless unit doesn't process much at all, nor does most audio circuitry do anything to the sound at all, unless deliberately and for a reason.
There will be a slight difference between the wireless and say, a 20ft cable. The 20ft cable will have some singal loss (slight treble loss), the wireless won't, because it's essentially as if you plugged your guitar to your pedalboad with a very short 2ft cable
Just for the record, this unit changes my tone going into a Helix into FRFR speakers QUITE dramatically. Very pronounced high end frequencies. I've had to go through every preset to work with a wireless unit vs. a 10'+ cable as I used before. Not the fault of this particular system per se, but just any wireless system I'm sure. Love everything about this system otherwise.
@@BradleyLivestreams Interesting...I have never noted any differences in tone related to wireless vs. cable. If there are any differences, they are far too subtle for my ears! I have used them both with a real amp and with plug-ins - no noticeable difference.
One suggestion I could make for anyone trying to do the patch bay idea with this is running the output of the wireless into the input of the patch bay. No it’s not exactly what you want with a patch bay, but it is a worthwhile idea
I'm not spending another $500 on another shure wireless that I've already paid the same amount for. I have the glxd6, I haven't used it in a few years. But it worked fine the last time I used it. But I've heard people complain about it. I bought 2 Boss WL 20L wireless for $400 total. No problems because the frequencies are the same as this one.
Fairly new subscriber; enjoy your presentation style and informed / informative content. Just came across your collabs with SixStringMia; great stuff. Impressively verbally bright beyond his years, particularly for a second language. Nice one.
I use this system. It's great... I mean the reality is, wireless systems (with the exception of mega systems like Shure Axient) are always going have potential problems in gig environments. The unit is absolutely fantastic... the fact it works on both 2.4 and 5ghz and automatically finds the best signal in real time is incredible.
I already have that. AKG bug battery powered receiver into P Board , Getaria 5.8 rechargeable from Board to amp. I only paid $80 for 2 of the Getaria 5.8 systems and I buy pretty much any of the AKG wireless bug systems I don't have the frequency of. I think I have 7 of those each different frequency. I've paid less for these used than my brother's Shure wireless mic system he bought 15 yrs ago. For my board I love having it up where I can quickly adjust whatever pedal I'm messing with. No bending over trying to see exactly where each knob is. Best way to really learn my board. Only connection is the electric underneath. Set up on desk next to notebook. Write down what you learn.
I own this unit, it's great, but I was also surprised that I can't use my patchbay with this pedal in "chain" - as you said, not the end of the world, but I'd love to see some firmware update - it doesn't make sense as it is now. Hope Shure will take your on point criticism and fixes this! Cheers!
The ab mode I don't see it as an issue unless you don't use a volume pedal. My volume pedal is after my drives and before mods and delays. I thinks most pro-board players have a volume pedal. If you don't use a volume pedal then yes I agree it can be an issue.
I've had nothing but Monster Cable for everything for 22 years. I can't justify spending the money to try a wireless set. I might if had the money since I'm in a wheelchair & I roll over the cable once in a while. I'm never that far away from my amp.
When the old version of this was sold out I tried the cheaper Shure digital and its great...It makes the waveform weird but sounds great. Before that I tried all of the line 6 units but found they couldnt handle the level of EMGs or Blackouts without distorting
I wonder about digital radios for this application. Sure they reject dropouts better than an analog radio, but at the cost of latency. Also you have to resolve the difference in sample clocks between the TX and RX which would require some sort of asynchronous sample rate conversion and that can cause all kinds of artifacts if not done right. I would not mind testing one of these on my free pedal test software to uncover any issues.
I never noticed any sound quality degradation. However, when you get out of range, it start cutting, and from my experience, you need to come back closer than when it started cutting for it to pick back again correctly. It seems it either work or doesn't. In comparison, when VHF/UHF wireless get out of range, it loses a lot of sound quality and barely get audible, but won't "cut" (at least from my understanding). That being said, you really need to go very far. With my rehearsal room, I could go outside the concrete building(the room was at the basements) and it would still work. Only when I went farther away in the parking lot it would start cutting. That was with the GLXD16, the previous version, by the way.
This is more of a question than a statement and sorry if it’s already been said but if the footswitch is set to wired/wireless and the tuner is always on could you still use it as a mute since the transmitter wouldn’t be active? Only getting wired signal and using the wireless mode as a mute?
I bought one of these. Been plagued with wireless issues. I tried all groups and all channels. Not reliable at all. The blue light always flickers magically in the middle of my solo :-( and suddenly I feel the solo has become a vibrato solo....I need help...
I don’t think I’m changing the old model for now. Sometimes I get issues on recharging the transmitter but nothing more than that. Also first thing I did upon getting the unit was the test in the field you did hahaha
@@Millennial_Mike I tried every combination of groups and channels over 3 years. I eventually sold it for almost the same price I bought it for and got a $60 one that works the same
These don't work well around high powered routers. Had gen 1 for ages, and returned the new one after a week due to wifi interference. Although the form factor is not as friendly, the Senn EW-D CI1 is incredible. Don't waste your money on 2.5/5ghz systems.
Before I watch this video. lemme just say I've been trying to figure out the output impedance of this device for a while. Or rather, how well does it work with a two or three transistor fuzz pedal? Will you cover this very important issue? I'll find out in 13 minutes after I've watched the video.
I have one of these and I love it, my only real complaint is that getting extra transmitters for it is uh, well it's shit fuck expensive to say the least.
Imagine, I've got the previous version and Shure stopped making the bodypacks, and judged not profitable enough to make the new ones backward compatible with the previous ones... So if I want a second bodypack, well, I pretty need to buy the whole new wireless system all over again.
As someone who has had poor vision basically my entire life, why not get contacts? Even if just for playing live? I've been wearing them for the last 20 years, almost. I decided to switch once i started playing live, for the exact reason that they just fly off your face. I don't think I'd ever go back to glasses.
I have the old one - never once let me down, so you would not use the input jack in my opinion..... I have also built on rigs I have built for other people a patch bay that has an input that goes between the wireless and first pedal (ie. when the jack goes into the patchbay it bypasses the wireless). Sadly this looses the tuner..... I guess it is a trade off ! I would only see a lead being useful if you had a wireless breakdown. I would recommend a spare battery. Unlike the larger 'half tack'/'third rack' size shure receivers this system (or the previous system) does not charge the battery. You also forgot to mention the battery life LED on the pedal.
Depends on the length of cable you’re used to using. I tend to use short enough cables so I didn’t notice much change. Though if you were used to using longer cables I would assume there would be a bigger difference.
It's essentially like plugging your guitar to the pedalboad with a very short 2ft cable. These digital wireless don't lose sound quality, they just start cutting when you're out of range (like you've seen in the video). I assume you had a VHF wireless system, which will impact sound quality, especially if you're far from the base or are on a crowded frequency.
Hi kdh, I just tried to click your Thomann link and it didn’t find the product. Upon closer inspection: could it be that you have a typo? (Namely switching the X and D)
@@KDHthanks, but the link to Thomann wasn’t my main concern. I wanted to ask if all references in you title, video and description had this typo (or if Thomann had a typo)
Why are doing so many a range test outside with nobody around? Do a range test here where we play with the band in Manhattan with 1000+ cellphones around and hundreds of other wireless systems. I see here bands with 2.4/5.8 Ghz systems switching to cable during the first song all the time. That is why I am using a Sennheiser EW-DX. If I ever have a gig with no audience at an empty field I will maybe take a look at other systems....
haha, great test! I have an old Shure Wireless which was fairly affordable 15 years ago, and it already is enough to walk out of the rehearsal room and play in the neighborhood, which is far more than any stage size i will ever play on. This new one seems to do even more, and it's more practical with these new features.
I work in live entertainment and just a heads-up: this is not actually professional-grade equipment. Wireless equipment aimed at professionals in the event industry utilizes the UHF and VHF frequency bands because 2.4 GHz is not only crowded by electronics, but also undesirable for this application due to its high frequency and subsequent range limitations. The reason why GLXD doesn't use these frequency bands is that they're only allowed for professional use. The Shure products actual pros use are (among others) ULXD and Axient. Sennheiser is also a well-established manufacturer of professional wireless systems.
I think it is a little lame that they have a proprietary battery instead of an 18650 but I guess I could understand the audience they're working with may not be smart enough to get good batteries from a website that isn't amazon.
btw amazon rechargeables in america are the best deal rn. you can get amazon rechargeables that are rebadged eneloops for $0.33 cents a bat. I guess if you live near an Ikea the Ladda batteries are also eneloop rebrands for similar prices. just remember to get a high capacity battery if the device has a high power draw and a normal battery if you're putting them in remotes. NiMH batteries can die if they sit in a drawer too long and high capacity only last like a month at a time but you get more capacity if you're using something with a high power draw.
These tests mean nothing just a FYI. Nobody ever tests in an area that is loaded with electronics, wifi signals and lighting, It would be more realistic. Most units will past any test in a open field with nothing in it. Just a heads up for anyone looking for a wireless unit.
This. Most people say they have problems on live gigs because of the wifi and lots of phones around
This is why I've resisted getting any wireless system
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Review some products to keep your glasses on when giging!
Never had any issue with the previous version, so that one should be at least as good
Thanks to Shure for supporting KDH’s channel by sending him a wireless unit for us to check out! I’ve heard this unit is incredible, and it’s nice to know it had the KDH stamp of approval. Feel free to send KDH more free Shure gear to let him check out (and maybe even give away to us? 😬🙏🏻🤞🏻)!
John Browne from Monuments has used the GLXD16 in a lot of shows including festivals and he said that he doesn't get any interference from it.
Im a touring musician from the U.S. (currently on tour in Europe) and this is my second tour using this wireless system and i’ve had no issues at all with it. I don’t use a patch bay so i personally have never had any issues with sound while tuning. I’d recommend this to anyone looking into getting a wireless system. Loved the review KDH!
They have utterly nailed it. One thing to say, I know you called it out but the real enemy of your wireless pack isn't distance, but other wireless systems.
Three weeks ago I was on stage in Thurles with my Line 6 G50 and it was utterly creased by a HDMI transmitter so one express delivery from Thomann and I had it in time for a fairly ginormous stage at Forever Young in Kildare.
I had to compete with a gazillion smartphones, stage cameras with transmitters, 9 wireless mics, other instrument wireless and I left my iPhone in my back pocket. It just kept going. The battery is incredible. I was getting a bit conscious about my environmental footprint.
I don't have to spend ages setting it up looking for bandwidth and the tuner is super handy. It's utter win.
I'm actually very surprised at Line 6. They bought a company that led in this space and haven't updated their line is a very long time.
This is the only show in town for working guitarists right now.
Sold. I just ordered one. I have a festival coming up in September I need a wireless unit for lol.
That is why the 2.4 and 5 GHz bands are not used in professional settings. You'll only see VHF and UHF there and for events with a lot of wireless, there will often be an RF coordinator to make sure your guitar doesn't use the same exact frequency as another band's microphone or the wireless video transmission by the camera man. But at events with not enough wireless transmission by a large enough number of different groups to warrant an RF coordinator, problems can still occur, so talking to the other people using wireless there is key.
10:36 I stay in Edinburgh and had to put up with The Lumineers playing at the castle a few weeks back. They were tuning up every couple of songs and I could hear it from a mile away.
To be fair it sounded better than any of their songs.
One thing to note about all the wireless systems using 2,4 GHz frequencies is that the actual frequency bandwidth for each of the channels is 22 MHz. For example the frequency for channel 6 is 2,437 GHz but because the bandwidth is 22 MHz the actual frequency is actually 2,425-2,449 GHz, spreading 11 MHz to both sides. Because of this some channels will clash with each other. With channel 6 it would share frequencies with channels 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10. To minimize the risk of interference with other wireless units on stage, the only channels you could use are channels 1, 6, and 11. If your band has 2 guitars and a bass all on 2,4 GHz systems you'd be able to get by with minimal risk of interference but if there's any more wireless systems like an acoustic guitar or in-ear monitor systems using 2,4 GHz you'd have guaranteed interference problems. Also wifi routers and other devices using 2,4 GHz in the venues can cause interference.
With the added benefit of the 5.8 GHz range you'd have more options since the "frequency spill" isn't as much of a problem allowing more than just 3 channels to be used. And if you still somehow have problems you can use the scan feature on the Shure unit to quickly find a new better channel.
As for the channel groups on the GLXD16+, according to Shure group 1 is best if 1-2 systems are used and group 2 is best if 2-5 systems are used. Group 3 is best if used in entirely wifi free space/area.
Because of the option to use both 2,4 and 5,8 GHz I think the GLXD16+ is the best wireless unit using the 2,4 GHz and 5,8 GHz frequencies. Just keep it away from wifi routers.
You don't have to select a frequency. The pedal will find the best frequency automatically. I own the previous version (only 2.4GHz) and in my previous band, the other guitarist also had the same unit. Never had any problem. The two units selected different channels (11 and 6 from what I remember). It is really plug and play.
As I said, the pedal will do a quick scan for the best frequency. What I said in the original comment about frequencies still applies to every system from every manufacturer using 2,4 GHz.
The test should be done in an environment that mimics a real scenario: in a stage with LOTS of RF interference like in-ears, radio mics, LED screen, WiFI routers, phones, etc. That's the important thing!, also, a long range like the one shown here means nothing unless you're someone who has a stage tech that changes your pedals and presets for you, like a class A act but in that case that person already has the budget for a more pro wireless unit!, also, most guitar players are glued to their big pedalboards so there's not much need for a long range, I'm more interested on how this affects latency, frequency response and dynamic range, if you plug your guitar with a cable into a Fuzz it'll sound totally different that plugging into the fuzz with this or with a buffered pedal before for example
THIS!!!!!
People love their tuners - so I don't think too many people would give up using their favorite tuner, especially if they're like me and love stroboscopic tuners :)
"Oh yeah... we've definitely outdone most stages at this point" (aka, auditoriums) lol... The point about the width on the pedalboard (with top mounted jacks) was brilliant. And yeah, the input jack is great as well. I am sold. That is what I call an excellent review. And I'm glad you didn't slip on dog poo going across the lawn. Oh, and the issue with the wireless -or- wired conundrum is to have a switch that is a quick tap to alternate wired/wireless and a 2-3 sec hold for tuner mode. Thanks for your efforts and thoughts.
This video and some comments sold me on it. I just ordered one. My tuner took a shit last week and I have a festival coming up in September I need a wireless unit for. Of course this thing does both haha
I got the newer version of this after having the older version, which was great . They made improvements which makes things better .This is been a game changer. Also, the tuner is a nice touch. As for other units, you get what you pay for ,this is more like a professional unit and it’s a permanent addition to my rig…..Keep on rockin.
Glad you liked it. I had the prior Gen for years. I had to replace one battery. After 3 years in a transmitter. I did upgrade to the new one and sold the old one to the other guitaist in the band.
One thing you didn't mention you can have multiple transmitters paired with one pedal. Only one can be active at a time but make for great fast guitar switching. Power off the one your wearing. Grab other guitar flick the power button and your now running with new guitar.
My live rig is kemper stage mounted to a Temple audio pedal board. This sits on there as well. I have a chioks power supply with also has USB ports. I can charge the transmitters if needed. I have everything wired with the power ports on the temple audio and a metal flight case. Easiest travel rig I have ever had. The flight case has wheels I have a double guitar gig bag. I can go from gig to show in one trip from car.
Also not sure about comments about noise and so on. I have never had an issue. I play and live in a metropolitan area in the US. Have played many street festivals with this outside. The latest one was 5k people watching us but was huge festival covering 10 city blocks. 8 stages all performing. Noisy bars with bad wiring. Never an issue.
Your lighting has gotten better
glad to se Shure being sure to send products for review to kdh who's critically honest
This would be great for soundcheck, get a great idea for what the crowd is actually hearing.
Excellent as always! All the best chief!
You could use a volume pedal after the tuner to have it on all the time and mute for tuning. That's what I do. I never touch the tuner this way. I actually use the pedal as an expression pedal into my Tonex, but it's set as a digital volume pedal.
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"When I take off my glasses, well, my vision isn't exactly 'HD'."
I like your sense of humor
As someone who bought the previous version (GLXD16) just 4-5 years ago, I'm absolutely pissed that they didn't made the new version compatible with the old one.
A few months ago I was looking to buy a second bodypack in order to more easily switch between guitars during gigs(and also, always good to have a backup, although I bring a 25ft cable just in case), and realized it has been discontinued, which was very disappointing since I specifically spent more money on a Shure wireless rather than a smaller brand to ensure it would be supported for a long time. Guess I was wrong...
I've learned that an updated version was coming and had hope that I could buy the new bodypack and it would work with the GLXD6. Nope. If I want a second body pack, either I need to find one used (they're nowhere to be found on the used maket, unless you want to pay as much for a used bodypack than you paid for the whole kit brand new...), or buy a completely new wireless system... Thanks, Shure.... 😑 Planned obsolescence at its best.
I mean, I get that the new one is dual band and not the previous one, but still, there is absolutely no reason why it couldn't just fallback using only 2.4GHz when paired with the older pedal. The technology they're using isn't much different than Wi-Fi... Imagine if you bought a brand new router and then your 3 years old tablet wouldn't connect to because it doesn't support WiFi 6... That's ridiculous. They clearly did this so you buy the whole thing all over again and I feel betrayed as a customer, especially since I have absolutely no reason to upgrade to the new version, it always worked flawlessly.
Yep. Same exact scenario for me. Hopefully the used prices of the old components comes down now. It's already started to a bit
@@reverendtos4271 they're hard to find in my area. Most likely because it works fine for most people and they have no reason to sell it
Plus it conflicts with the old system. So you need to be on 5.8
Great review as always! Please cover the newly released Tom Delonge Fender Strat. It's Mexican made, and $1300. I don't feel that is worth it, but I'm curious on your take.
How do they detect the IN jack connection on the Sure? Do they perhaps use a stereo female IN jack and plugging in a mono jack cable shorts the Right to Ground to detect an IN cable is connected. If so, if your board has a stereo patch, just connect that with a stereo cable so you don't complete the circuit until you connect a mono jack cable to your board. I don't know the Sure unit, so this is just a guess.
Getting around the patch bay situation can be easy if your board can be arranged to suit. I had the same situation when I got my Boss WL-50 and all I did was position the receiver on my board so that the wired input was accessible if I needed to use it and used that as my wired input option to my board instead of my patch bay..... Granted that may not work for everyone with their pedal board layouts but it really can be a simple work around
A press and hold on the footswitch to switch between wired/wireless would be your best bet. That way you still get the tuner/mute functionality but can switch between without having to fart about with the unit itself :)
Looks a nice bit if kit for any gigging musicbod
Great review...Thanks for all you do. Seems like a volume pedal which may be common on boards may solve that always on issue.
There is a tuner pass thru setting that does exactly what you are talking about. Press the button it mutes when you tune, press again the screen goes off and it’s back to a pass thru and works as normal!
The range test made me chuckle as it reminded me of a story I heard about a singer using a wireless system and walking out through the audience in a natural bowl and as he was hearing the band from some way away he was singing a second or two behind the band!! I have no idea if it was true but it made me laugh.
This is a fun video and I commend you for making it!
For those asking about using it where there is loads of different radio signals in the immediate area - it works great. I have used even a cheaper Nux wireless unit (5 GHz) in an area that was highly populated and with plenty of cellphones, wifi routers, Bluetooth signals, etc. and had no issues. The Shure unit is far more robust than the cheaper non-pro units - it is going to be very rare that you get any interference because it switches channels to keep that from happening. As far as how these sound - you are not going to notice any difference between the wireless and a cable. Some might claim "but latency" - it is just has never been an issue in my experience. Certainly if you get really far away from the receiver you are going to increase your latency but by the time you would get far enough to notice the signal will drop out. Wireless is a solid technology - just look at how many big bands you see using wireless when you go to a concert.
Latency: People still don't understand that all waves on the electromagnetic spectrum, so both radio and electrical travel at the speed of light! The reason computers have latency is because they do crap loads of different things and so they get qued and have to wait their turn, which can be micro to milliseconds, a wireless unit doesn't process much at all, nor does most audio circuitry do anything to the sound at all, unless deliberately and for a reason.
There will be a slight difference between the wireless and say, a 20ft cable. The 20ft cable will have some singal loss (slight treble loss), the wireless won't, because it's essentially as if you plugged your guitar to your pedalboad with a very short 2ft cable
Just for the record, this unit changes my tone going into a Helix into FRFR speakers QUITE dramatically. Very pronounced high end frequencies. I've had to go through every preset to work with a wireless unit vs. a 10'+ cable as I used before. Not the fault of this particular system per se, but just any wireless system I'm sure. Love everything about this system otherwise.
@@BradleyLivestreams Interesting...I have never noted any differences in tone related to wireless vs. cable. If there are any differences, they are far too subtle for my ears! I have used them both with a real amp and with plug-ins - no noticeable difference.
One suggestion I could make for anyone trying to do the patch bay idea with this is running the output of the wireless into the input of the patch bay. No it’s not exactly what you want with a patch bay, but it is a worthwhile idea
I just picked this unit up two weeks ago, love it
I'm not spending another $500 on another shure wireless that I've already paid the same amount for. I have the glxd6, I haven't used it in a few years. But it worked fine the last time I used it. But I've heard people complain about it. I bought 2 Boss WL 20L wireless for $400 total. No problems because the frequencies are the same as this one.
Fairly new subscriber; enjoy your presentation style and informed / informative content. Just came across your collabs with SixStringMia; great stuff. Impressively verbally bright beyond his years, particularly for a second language. Nice one.
Six string Mia. Lol that eleventeen yr old. 🙄
I use this system. It's great... I mean the reality is, wireless systems (with the exception of mega systems like Shure Axient) are always going have potential problems in gig environments.
The unit is absolutely fantastic... the fact it works on both 2.4 and 5ghz and automatically finds the best signal in real time is incredible.
I had an idea where you could get 2 of these with a power bank and have both a wireless petal board and wireless guitar
could be useful
I already have that. AKG bug battery powered receiver into P Board , Getaria 5.8 rechargeable from Board to amp. I only paid $80 for 2 of the Getaria 5.8 systems and I buy pretty much any of the AKG wireless bug systems I don't have the frequency of. I think I have 7 of those each different frequency. I've paid less for these used than my brother's Shure wireless mic system he bought 15 yrs ago. For my board I love having it up where I can quickly adjust whatever pedal I'm messing with. No bending over trying to see exactly where each knob is. Best way to really learn my board. Only connection is the electric underneath. Set up on desk next to notebook. Write down what you learn.
I own this unit, it's great, but I was also surprised that I can't use my patchbay with this pedal in "chain" - as you said, not the end of the world, but I'd love to see some firmware update - it doesn't make sense as it is now. Hope Shure will take your on point criticism and fixes this! Cheers!
The ab mode I don't see it as an issue unless you don't use a volume pedal. My volume pedal is after my drives and before mods and delays. I thinks most pro-board players have a volume pedal. If you don't use a volume pedal then yes I agree it can be an issue.
great video mate
I've had nothing but Monster Cable for everything for 22 years. I can't justify spending the money to try a wireless set. I might if had the money since I'm in a wheelchair & I roll over the cable once in a while. I'm never that far away from my amp.
When the old version of this was sold out I tried the cheaper Shure digital and its great...It makes the waveform weird but sounds great. Before that I tried all of the line 6 units but found they couldnt handle the level of EMGs or Blackouts without distorting
I have one. Simply love it. However I live on 5 acres and not all flat. I can loose signal going up hill.
That was a cricket pitch! Where you in Angle-land or where you in Eire? I would like to know because I've never seen a cricket pitch in Eire before.
You could use a boost pedal at the end of your chain to mute for tuning. Which would have two purposes, rather than adding a tuner at the front.
Hey Shure, please start using metal bands on your headphone adjustments. Just that little bit would go a long way.
good review:-) really no Mute on the tuner??
I wonder about digital radios for this application. Sure they reject dropouts better than an analog radio, but at the cost of latency. Also you have to resolve the difference in sample clocks between the TX and RX which would require some sort of asynchronous sample rate conversion and that can cause all kinds of artifacts if not done right. I would not mind testing one of these on my free pedal test software to uncover any issues.
I never noticed any sound quality degradation. However, when you get out of range, it start cutting, and from my experience, you need to come back closer than when it started cutting for it to pick back again correctly. It seems it either work or doesn't. In comparison, when VHF/UHF wireless get out of range, it loses a lot of sound quality and barely get audible, but won't "cut" (at least from my understanding).
That being said, you really need to go very far. With my rehearsal room, I could go outside the concrete building(the room was at the basements) and it would still work. Only when I went farther away in the parking lot it would start cutting. That was with the GLXD16, the previous version, by the way.
even better, single press on the switch: mute/unmute tuner on/off, long press: input select
This is more of a question than a statement and sorry if it’s already been said but if the footswitch is set to wired/wireless and the tuner is always on could you still use it as a mute since the transmitter wouldn’t be active? Only getting wired signal and using the wireless mode as a mute?
How about a killswitch on the patchbays output, problem solved. Low cost and can be patched remotely if necessary.
I bought one of these. Been plagued with wireless issues. I tried all groups and all channels. Not reliable at all. The blue light always flickers magically in the middle of my solo :-( and suddenly I feel the solo has become a vibrato solo....I need help...
5.8 will improve signal but decrease range. What settings did you use for the test?
you should match this up with the rescuing knight scene from the holy grail
I wonder what happened to Nady Wireless..
Good review .
Good video bro.🎶🎸
I don’t think I’m changing the old model for now. Sometimes I get issues on recharging the transmitter but nothing more than that.
Also first thing I did upon getting the unit was the test in the field you did hahaha
Mine worked as good as the $60 amazon one. Cut out like crazy 6 feet away in a packed bar
Did you select the right group settings and mode?
@@Millennial_Mike I tried every combination of groups and channels over 3 years. I eventually sold it for almost the same price I bought it for and got a $60 one that works the same
Can you now try and find a decent wireless 13 pin MIDI cable?
Nice. Above my playing needs. And budget.
What’s the sound quality like?
is the shure pedal a "buffered" one?
Not that I care, but I'm just curious
Is that guitar a Chapman? And is this device also suitable for active pickups? Assuming you have tested it with this guitar?
Hello, I have 1 question. Was there ant loss in tone or frequency?
Amp in Dublin, play from Cardiff? Hey it is just a test and city trip 😉 And if it did or did not work out try again with playing from Edinburgh 😅
These don't work well around high powered routers. Had gen 1 for ages, and returned the new one after a week due to wifi interference. Although the form factor is not as friendly, the Senn EW-D CI1 is incredible. Don't waste your money on 2.5/5ghz systems.
Volume pedal would also be a workaround
Before I watch this video. lemme just say I've been trying to figure out the output impedance of this device for a while. Or rather, how well does it work with a two or three transistor fuzz pedal? Will you cover this very important issue? I'll find out in 13 minutes after I've watched the video.
Nope. Just talked about range and tuning, and patch bays.
I want to be the type to tune in front of a crowd using the 5th fret method
Spinal Tap might have a wall of trees on stage
I have one of these and I love it, my only real complaint is that getting extra transmitters for it is uh, well it's shit fuck expensive to say the least.
Imagine, I've got the previous version and Shure stopped making the bodypacks, and judged not profitable enough to make the new ones backward compatible with the previous ones... So if I want a second bodypack, well, I pretty need to buy the whole new wireless system all over again.
they sound really clear and honest?
Kdh signature edition: Tbeshure tbeshure
As someone who has had poor vision basically my entire life, why not get contacts? Even if just for playing live? I've been wearing them for the last 20 years, almost. I decided to switch once i started playing live, for the exact reason that they just fly off your face. I don't think I'd ever go back to glasses.
I have the old one - never once let me down, so you would not use the input jack in my opinion..... I have also built on rigs I have built for other people a patch bay that has an input that goes between the wireless and first pedal (ie. when the jack goes into the patchbay it bypasses the wireless). Sadly this looses the tuner..... I guess it is a trade off ! I would only see a lead being useful if you had a wireless breakdown.
I would recommend a spare battery. Unlike the larger 'half tack'/'third rack' size shure receivers this system (or the previous system) does not charge the battery.
You also forgot to mention the battery life LED on the pedal.
The 'Wall of Trees' thing sounds like Roger Waters next on stage project
How about latency?
How does the sound compare to cable?
I used a wireless unit years ago and couldn't get on with the sound difference. Had to return to cable.
Depends on the length of cable you’re used to using.
I tend to use short enough cables so I didn’t notice much change. Though if you were used to using longer cables I would assume there would be a bigger difference.
It's essentially like plugging your guitar to the pedalboad with a very short 2ft cable. These digital wireless don't lose sound quality, they just start cutting when you're out of range (like you've seen in the video). I assume you had a VHF wireless system, which will impact sound quality, especially if you're far from the base or are on a crowded frequency.
@1:34 You said, "Arbor Tree" (Tree Tree) while walking amongst trees. 🤣🤣
Hi kdh,
I just tried to click your Thomann link and it didn’t find the product.
Upon closer inspection: could it be that you have a typo? (Namely switching the X and D)
Thank you. Link should work now
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@@KDHthanks, but the link to Thomann wasn’t my main concern. I wanted to ask if all references in you title, video and description had this typo (or if Thomann had a typo)
how is the latency tho????
Why are doing so many a range test outside with nobody around? Do a range test here where we play with the band in Manhattan with 1000+ cellphones around and hundreds of other wireless systems. I see here bands with 2.4/5.8 Ghz systems switching to cable during the first song all the time. That is why I am using a Sennheiser EW-DX. If I ever have a gig with no audience at an empty field I will maybe take a look at other systems....
He lives in ireland this is the most developed area he could find
Nice rig!
My man can do a deep dive on a bag of potato chips
It shure seems like a good system
LINE6 G70 has everything you need and mutes the audio in tuner mode::::
I’ve used the predecessor for many years and it’s been great. I like the upgrades to this new version
Higher latency. No group 4. Conflicts with old system. Takes longer to reconnect.
wtf, from the thumbnail I thought this Sure is the size of a large house
haha, great test!
I have an old Shure Wireless which was fairly affordable 15 years ago, and it already is enough to walk out of the rehearsal room and play in the neighborhood, which is far more than any stage size i will ever play on. This new one seems to do even more, and it's more practical with these new features.
Wow!!! Bigger than Wembley
I wonder if the interference of thousands of peoples cell phones at a concert would have any effect
Tuner sounds like Chooner and I laugh every time.
As opposed to Tooner?
4:07 I LOLd
Personally I don't like the tuner too much. I will still use a peterson or polytune instead.
Nice cricket field!
I get your tuner eye test. My eyes are total garbage. I've been using a Peterson Strobostomp HD for this reason. Has a huge, bright screen.
They said yes......or did they say......SHURE.....?
I work in live entertainment and just a heads-up: this is not actually professional-grade equipment. Wireless equipment aimed at professionals in the event industry utilizes the UHF and VHF frequency bands because 2.4 GHz is not only crowded by electronics, but also undesirable for this application due to its high frequency and subsequent range limitations. The reason why GLXD doesn't use these frequency bands is that they're only allowed for professional use. The Shure products actual pros use are (among others) ULXD and Axient. Sennheiser is also a well-established manufacturer of professional wireless systems.
I think it is a little lame that they have a proprietary battery instead of an 18650 but I guess I could understand the audience they're working with may not be smart enough to get good batteries from a website that isn't amazon.
btw amazon rechargeables in america are the best deal rn. you can get amazon rechargeables that are rebadged eneloops for $0.33 cents a bat.
I guess if you live near an Ikea the Ladda batteries are also eneloop rebrands for similar prices.
just remember to get a high capacity battery if the device has a high power draw and a normal battery if you're putting them in remotes. NiMH batteries can die if they sit in a drawer too long and high capacity only last like a month at a time but you get more capacity if you're using something with a high power draw.
What a condescending comment