As someone who got the F-86 to grind for the F-1, then the EJ Kai while it was still in its glory days, the F-16AJ and is close to the F-15… it feels like dessert after a main course to me
@@TruthAndReconciliation Yeah T-2 was actually fun, just had to be extra aware of your surroundings and load a couple rocket pods if you dare head-on an all-aspect jet. F-4EJ was just depressing, I got maybe 5 kills from the radar missiles, maybe 30-40 kills from the IR missiles, and the rest were from using gun pods in head-ons.
I like the fact that the first F5E to ever be produced (the pré production model) is still on active service on Brazil as an modernized F5 - EM, it blows my mind.
@InterstellarTaco Oh I see. 9Ms on an F-5 platform sounds like 11.7 or 12.0 material tho. I genuinely believe 9ms, R-73 shouldn't be below 12.0 though. F-5E with 9L sounds interesting though
I was watching this on my ps4, had to get my phone out, 355 to the end, you are an absolute beast! You pull off sht that simply wouldn't be possible without your experience and expertise. If I was half as good, I'd start making vids, but. Sadly I get impatient, and die 😄 thank you for the godlike video. Always love watching your stuff.
nice to see japan gets a good top tier grinder AFTER Ive finished the whole tree........ At least its not packaged in a lootbox like a certain other developer would have made it
DEFYN actually is very good, but he was fightings very bad players in this 1v9 game. Mig23 didn't even use wing sweep and loss all of energy advantage immediately. F16 is a console player... Imho, when opponents so weak it's boring to watch.
For anyone that doesn’t know, the F4EJ ADTW can take min fuel and the drop tank (drop tank fuel doesn’t slow you down for some reason and you have the Vulcan so you don’t need gun pod) and easily out accelerate the other F4s going for bases unless they’re the FGR.2, then you’re just shit out of luck cause that thing is nearly 17000kgf of thrust 😂
@@norske_ow3440 all drop tanks, like a tornado with 20min and drop tanks (21mins of fuel) will out accelerate a tornado with 40min of fuel, not a lot of players know about it so it’s helpful for ensuring a base kill
Wish we got this as premium for Japan instead. When I join a squadron, I'm getting this one. Also "Tie fighter" originates from comments on the F-5E FCU devblog "Hamtaro_TH 11 March 2024 I expect Tie-Fighter but I got Thai fighter XD"
The F16 taking off with a ton of fuel knowing that he would soon 1v1 a fucking F5 hurt my soul to see. If bro took off with like 15mins of fuel the outcome would be so different.
If they added an F-5E with some 80's upgraded equipment (IFF and AIM-9L's) i would Be in heaven. I feel like F-5E's speed is not a problem, it is nimble enough to Make up For that in most situations. If The cold war would have gone hot in The mid 80's F-5E's would have absolutely seen serious combat in USAF, And i would Be interested to see what kind of upgrades those planes would have got
I just confirmed that Gaijin animated the tail hook on this plane. If you're approaching a carrier and meet the conditions, the hook comes down to catch a wire. 😃
11.3 is the best BR range at the moment. You completely avoid top tier planes and end up fighting hordes of shitty F-4s players (basically free kills).
Can you play the german CL-13A Mk 5 please? I want to learn my way into 8.7+ BR jets but I only have the CL-13A Mk 5 and the MiG-15bis.... In wich its quite hard to aim..
Big issue with moving planes right now is the game is just too compressed, and basing BRs around performance is an imperfect system. Who knows what the future holds for the F5 family.
in the last BR patch, the one major change i wish they'd gone through with was bringing the F-5E back up to 11.0. And yeah, the F-5C should be 10.7 too. but well, i dont think that will ever happen...
2:15 of course xD if you are DEFYN it could be 12.0 and it would still be competitive... For us mere mortals, we are up against actual good (and more) missiles, faster planes, more powerful engines and all we can show for it is: but it holds mach 😅 I have 732 kills with the F-5C and i still find it a bad plane to fly. Simply because nowadays everyone is better than you... Mind you the F-5C may be 10.3 but 9/10 matches are 11.3... What exactly am i supposed to do to a mig-23? The 9Es are so bad that even if the enemy doesn't flare, they are going to miss... You can't get within gunrange, they set energy traps on you constantly... It's just not a good plane to fly at that BR range... The F-5E slightly better, at least it has 2 9Js, suffers from the same problem but this time it's up against F-14s and Mirage 2000s... Fair? Absolutely not... I'd rather fly the Mirage F-1 with a gajilion flares, 2 magic 2s and 2 530Fs, way more consistent than both the F-5C and F-5E... Oh and just a reminder, The F-5c sees at least 2 Jaguar IS's in every match. So now you are up against magic-2s most of the time as well... Yeah... And they even nerfed the ability to pull a lost second shot on the F-5, it just doesn't pull as much AoA as it used to...
No offense but that's a straight up skill issue. Yes, it's harder to fly nowadays. You don't have to be anywhere near as good as Defyn to do well in it, it's still a fantastic dogfighter.
@@ThePppp89 No offense taken, i'm a realist and i don't consider myself a good player, got about 20 days in Air RB... The thing is Dogfights don't matter in top tier man... We are not talking about 1v1s here, we are talking about Air RB... Missiles and speed do all the talking until maybe late match where there are very few people left... The F-5 is not very good at surviving till late game simply because it doesn't have the speed or the missiles to do so... You can't catch anyone to clean him up fast, if someone starts chasing you, you can't run away - let alone surviving while there's more of his team around... Skill issue or not, like i said i have 732 kills in the damn thing and i still find planes like the mirage F1 and the 2000c a lot easier to be consistent with...
It annoys me that they made it a squadron vehicle and didn't just put it between the F-1 and F-16AJ, there's a perfect slot right there. Rank 7 in japan has more planes in the premium line than the actual tech tree, and I think that gaijin putting it there is a blatant act of greed, when the actual teach tree desperately needs more rank 7s.
Whereas I'm happy because it means I can grind through the rest of rank 4 and 5 while I research it, then use it to research through ranks 6, 7, and 8!
You're not just buying the plane, you're buying the ability to research the entire tech tree in two to four weeks while making a ton of SL. That said, I think it would be better at 11.7.
The accent is too much for me as non-native english-speaker: What does he call the thing? And why? I understood TIE Fighter, but I don't see any reason for that, so what is the correct nickname and why?
While i agree that the F5E could go up to 11.0 in general but i wouldn't uptier the F5C from 10.3. The F5E with the much more powerful engines is a league of it's own. I never liked the F5C because of this, it's engines are just way too weak (and then there is the shitty Aim9E).
Japan fully embracing role of War thunder's Galactic empire with huge battleship and Thai-fighters 😂
And don't forget the Death Star!
@@overconfidentpineapple8783 im pretty sure they got hit by the death star. twice.
adding this after i grinded the F-16AJ using the T-2, F-1 and the F-4EJ feels like an insult
As someone who got the F-86 to grind for the F-1, then the EJ Kai while it was still in its glory days, the F-16AJ and is close to the F-15… it feels like dessert after a main course to me
I'm literally in the exact same boat, just gonna use it to unlock the F-2 or F-15J Kai when those are added, or if they add a sub-tree to Japan.
T2 is really good for its br, just being flareless kills long term survivability. The f-4ej almost made me quit the game though.
@@TruthAndReconciliation Yeah T-2 was actually fun, just had to be extra aware of your surroundings and load a couple rocket pods if you dare head-on an all-aspect jet.
F-4EJ was just depressing, I got maybe 5 kills from the radar missiles, maybe 30-40 kills from the IR missiles, and the rest were from using gun pods in head-ons.
Well... I'm about to unlock f4-e and start grinding f-16. If they add it before f16 I'm gonna be mad.
This is the only vehicle from the update that genuinely excited me
SO TRUE
SO TRUE
SO TRUE
SO TRUE
Alpha jet :(
Best feature of this update is probably defyn’s daily uploads
Couldn't possibly disagree with that sound logic.
I like the fact that the first F5E to ever be produced (the pré production model) is still on active service on Brazil as an modernized F5 - EM, it blows my mind.
dude takes methamphetamine before playing WT air RB
☠️
Historically accurate
This was a great video to edge to. Thanks Defyn 👍
my favorite F-5 derivative added this update
Defyn thigh highs when??
Tomorrow
Thigh reveal confirmed
Why you gotta say that. You just reminded me of the song Absolute Territory. Great music, terrible lyrics
@@EpsilonDoesStuff me when I lie
It'll happen when Gaijin fulfils their promise that they'll never add supersonic jets...
0:40 thought Defyn was going to say "Skill Issue" lol
Same😂
If the F-5E were to go back to 11.0, I think it would be nice if they gave it the Aim-9P-4, if it was historically compatible
they need to do that for the F-4J and F-4S as well. F-4S is actually probably capable of taking 9Ls.
The standard F5E carried AIM9 L/M not Ps.
@@InterstellarTacoso where's our 9Ls then, all we got is two J's also if we just got 4 or six 9Js that'd work too
@InterstellarTaco Oh I see. 9Ms on an F-5 platform sounds like 11.7 or 12.0 material tho. I genuinely believe 9ms, R-73 shouldn't be below 12.0 though. F-5E with 9L sounds interesting though
@@Micro-Landerbecause F-5 at 10.7 is stronger than 11.0 F-5 with 2 Limas
9:45 "dddddddddd"
- Defyn
I wanted to roll with my chat open 😭
@@DEFYN😂
@@DEFYNhappens to me too, except for me, its ccccccccccccccccc
Defyn your footage is always on top
I was watching this on my ps4, had to get my phone out, 355 to the end, you are an absolute beast! You pull off sht that simply wouldn't be possible without your experience and expertise. If I was half as good, I'd start making vids, but. Sadly I get impatient, and die 😄 thank you for the godlike video. Always love watching your stuff.
Honestly bought this plane. Pretty fun I’ve found so far
nice to see japan gets a good top tier grinder AFTER Ive finished the whole tree........ At least its not packaged in a lootbox like a certain other developer would have made it
Me: gets a 1v3 6 kill game.
Man, I’m pretty good
Defyn: 1v6 9 kill
Me: 😐
DEFYN actually is very good, but he was fightings very bad players in this 1v9 game. Mig23 didn't even use wing sweep and loss all of energy advantage immediately. F16 is a console player...
Imho, when opponents so weak it's boring to watch.
this thing came out right after I bought a talisman for the tech tree phantom so I could use it to grind, shouldve just waited bro
Never buy anything before a patch
Tie fighter is such a genius name 😂
Thai fighter
Blast! this is why i hate flying.
@@General_kenobi12this is where the fun begins
Get the spelling right, please. :D
@@Pelliq_Eit’s tie
NO MORE T-2 EARLY SUFFERING
Can't wait for F5T - Tigirs 🔥
Once i saw this thing i immediately stopped researching the harrier for this beauty
For anyone that doesn’t know, the F4EJ ADTW can take min fuel and the drop tank (drop tank fuel doesn’t slow you down for some reason and you have the Vulcan so you don’t need gun pod) and easily out accelerate the other F4s going for bases unless they’re the FGR.2, then you’re just shit out of luck cause that thing is nearly 17000kgf of thrust 😂
Good to know
Does the drop tank thing apply to all drop tanks or just the EJ?
@@norske_ow3440 all drop tanks, like a tornado with 20min and drop tanks (21mins of fuel) will out accelerate a tornado with 40min of fuel, not a lot of players know about it so it’s helpful for ensuring a base kill
@@Brogurto oh wow! Ty for the tip. I always thought people just ran them to look cool
Yo that’s kinda interesting, unrealistic but cool bug
That last match was really fun and engaging to watch, definitely learned a couple things and enjoyed this video more than usual.
Wish we got this as premium for Japan instead.
When I join a squadron, I'm getting this one.
Also "Tie fighter" originates from comments on the F-5E FCU devblog "Hamtaro_TH 11 March 2024 I expect Tie-Fighter but I got Thai fighter XD"
It basically is, just minus the SL boost. But you can use the f86 to get a lot of SL
Think it originated from a Yarnhub video before that.
What a match man. Truly beautiful flying.
Best plane of the update
Thank you!
the sensor view would've been amazing to use as well
Good idea actually
Defyn that match was beast mode great vid.
This video was also desperately needed my friend 💙💙
The F16 taking off with a ton of fuel knowing that he would soon 1v1 a fucking F5 hurt my soul to see.
If bro took off with like 15mins of fuel the outcome would be so different.
Considering how he was playing idk if it wouldve made much of a difference tbf lol
@@DEFYN Fair enough lmao
If they added an F-5E with some 80's upgraded equipment (IFF and AIM-9L's) i would Be in heaven. I feel like F-5E's speed is not a problem, it is nimble enough to Make up For that in most situations. If The cold war would have gone hot in The mid 80's F-5E's would have absolutely seen serious combat in USAF, And i would Be interested to see what kind of upgrades those planes would have got
This is my plane!
Was searching for your comment :D
The F-5E is my favorite plane in the game, I have to get this thing.
i love my F-5E , and i think this is worth the money more than the F-20
Why does he sound so aggressive today?
You should know how i am in bed
What in the goddamn
1:35 *Ayooo, MiG-25PD got shot down by you!*
Неделю уже смотрю без перерыва))))
6:04
I didn't even register it as a joke until it was pointed out
Wardog 4 hellooo ? can you hear me, kid ? you better be markin' our tail, son!
65 years of F-5 family. F-5E is a star of Ace Combat series.
I just confirmed that Gaijin animated the tail hook on this plane.
If you're approaching a carrier and meet the conditions, the hook comes down to catch a wire. 😃
I will DEFYNitely talisman this once I unlock it :)
bro really said no sexual jokes and than proceddes to say them Gotta love the humor brotha
Its been a while since ive played alot of war thunder, every now and then i go back to the F-5E, its my comfort jet
Lemme just go ahead and swap my Squadron research real quick.
F-5E Japan finally got something........................ BREATHE air is free.... Still
As a tech tree Phantom II sufferer I am absolutely slobbering at this plane.
I used the f1. But that was back when they didn’t get missiles or flares stock
6:40 on your what? 👀
Need more videos about this Aircraft
Always coming back to this channel to remind myself how to fly 😂😂
Playing Wart Under till you´re shaking. Damn DEFYN, that´s not necessary😂😂😂
What afterburner mod are you using? It looks amazing with the heat waves
Its default lol
😂😂😂
💀
@@DEFYN no way 😂 it looked like it was a modded afterburner, do you have any favourite afterburner mods?
I dont use any of them because i am lazy lmao
Same with skins
how do you get kills with this gun but you cant hit anything with the f20 arent they the same gun
Why do you always use MEC on the F5?
What settings do you use?
Its because my radar on off key is bound to the mec key lol
No real reason
@@DEFYN oh ok lol
6:38 😂
Can someone help me with something? On the wiki almost all of the engine stats are blank, does anyone know the TWR of this plane at sea level?
Just look at the other F-5E pages...
ayo you got carpal tunnel? how glued to your desk have you been (not bent over)
Just muscle fatigue it turned out
@@DEFYN aw hell yea glad to hear ur alr then
The F-5E will awlays be a X-Wing in my eyes
6:40 on your what ??
11.3 is the best BR range at the moment. You completely avoid top tier planes and end up fighting hordes of shitty F-4s players (basically free kills).
Amazing game!
Can you play the german CL-13A Mk 5 please? I want to learn my way into 8.7+ BR jets but I only have the CL-13A Mk 5 and the MiG-15bis.... In wich its quite hard to aim..
Defyn oiled up when?
Right now?
@@DEFYNNOW
yessir
Can you make another video on the f-86f-2 sabre day 9
Lets goooo
Could you try the d4y2 from the japanese tech tree ? It´s very maneuverable, got decent speed and air to air rockets
Hell naw man 😭
@@aleski6506 why not?
how did you make your radar look like a cone?
Its in the options
Defyn thigh highs when?
Big issue with moving planes right now is the game is just too compressed, and basing BRs around performance is an imperfect system. Who knows what the future holds for the F5 family.
in the last BR patch, the one major change i wish they'd gone through with was bringing the F-5E back up to 11.0. And yeah, the F-5C should be 10.7 too. but well, i dont think that will ever happen...
But where the under pylon missiles to make it 11.0 thou smh
F5E defintely belongs to 11.0 but F5C is fine where it is. F8E is a better plane than it.
@@maouslime7735 you're right, F-8E (and the 10.3 MiG-21s, and probably a few other planes) should go up to 10.7 too
The 9p4 is interesting.
my god top tier is like 10 guys with longswords hacking at each other in a minivan
I wish he made a video on the spitfire mk 24 griffin
Why run the ground belts when air has more HE rounds?
HE isn't always the best performing. For example the ground belt for the 30mm GSh was way better for a while.
Look at the damage in the F20 video those are the air belts lmao. The air belt does absolutely piss
@@DEFYN Oh damn, do we know why the air belts aren't as effective?
Just too bad I have to wait 2 months for the squad grind to complete....
HELL NAAAH "HEAT LAIR" was me and "The soviet hun" was my friend theres no chance for this to happen🤣
4:55 and 5:15
Bro makes is look so easy
I have slowly changed my mind about Thailand for Japan instead of SoKor, but I don’t like copy paste so idk
For someone who cant aim, like me, the eegs is worth a br bump on its own
Absolutely agree, the f5c shouldn't be 10.3
But gaijin doesn't care. They put the sagittario at 9.3, you think they care about correct BR placements?
2:15 of course xD if you are DEFYN it could be 12.0 and it would still be competitive... For us mere mortals, we are up against actual good (and more) missiles, faster planes, more powerful engines and all we can show for it is: but it holds mach 😅 I have 732 kills with the F-5C and i still find it a bad plane to fly. Simply because nowadays everyone is better than you... Mind you the F-5C may be 10.3 but 9/10 matches are 11.3... What exactly am i supposed to do to a mig-23? The 9Es are so bad that even if the enemy doesn't flare, they are going to miss... You can't get within gunrange, they set energy traps on you constantly... It's just not a good plane to fly at that BR range... The F-5E slightly better, at least it has 2 9Js, suffers from the same problem but this time it's up against F-14s and Mirage 2000s... Fair? Absolutely not... I'd rather fly the Mirage F-1 with a gajilion flares, 2 magic 2s and 2 530Fs, way more consistent than both the F-5C and F-5E... Oh and just a reminder, The F-5c sees at least 2 Jaguar IS's in every match. So now you are up against magic-2s most of the time as well... Yeah... And they even nerfed the ability to pull a lost second shot on the F-5, it just doesn't pull as much AoA as it used to...
No offense but that's a straight up skill issue.
Yes, it's harder to fly nowadays. You don't have to be anywhere near as good as Defyn to do well in it, it's still a fantastic dogfighter.
@@ThePppp89 No offense taken, i'm a realist and i don't consider myself a good player, got about 20 days in Air RB... The thing is Dogfights don't matter in top tier man... We are not talking about 1v1s here, we are talking about Air RB... Missiles and speed do all the talking until maybe late match where there are very few people left... The F-5 is not very good at surviving till late game simply because it doesn't have the speed or the missiles to do so... You can't catch anyone to clean him up fast, if someone starts chasing you, you can't run away - let alone surviving while there's more of his team around... Skill issue or not, like i said i have 732 kills in the damn thing and i still find planes like the mirage F1 and the 2000c a lot easier to be consistent with...
Ur a madman
do you like the python 3s over the aim-9l’s or other way? disc also says 4 aim9’s and i see you using pythons :)
It annoys me that they made it a squadron vehicle and didn't just put it between the F-1 and F-16AJ, there's a perfect slot right there. Rank 7 in japan has more planes in the premium line than the actual tech tree, and I think that gaijin putting it there is a blatant act of greed, when the actual teach tree desperately needs more rank 7s.
Whereas I'm happy because it means I can grind through the rest of rank 4 and 5 while I research it, then use it to research through ranks 6, 7, and 8!
how are you able to see what throttle % you are using instead of just wep?
It's part of the new update.
Well that's neat
Python-3, aim9l on steroids, way faster, similar max range and comparable seeker.
Need someone to bug report Rb24J and 9P4 smokeless motors...
neat
hate how people use mouse aim mode and forget to mention anything about it (new war thunder player searching for guides)
Ik vind je video's leuk :)
~$50 for GE to buy the squadron F-5E is better than $75 for shit F-20. Change my mind.
no it isnt the f-20 is at least premium
You're not just buying the plane, you're buying the ability to research the entire tech tree in two to four weeks while making a ton of SL. That said, I think it would be better at 11.7.
To be fair, the F-20 comes with premium bonuses, 2 weeks of prem time, and 2500 GE.
A talisman on this thing is a way better way to grind top tier japan than the shitty ADTW.
Japan is so bad that they had to add thailand
I doubt you'll keep saying that when the Mitsubishi F2 arrives
@@Bad_Karma777 Japan top tier is good. It's just getting to it is awful lmao.
@@DaisiesTC I talismaned the F16AJ when I got it and used it to grind the F4/Kai/15J and didn't look back, the ADTW is pure pain
I this is actually not a Japanese f-5, it’s a Thai f-5. Hence why your friend calls it the Thai fighter.
The accent is too much for me as non-native english-speaker: What does he call the thing? And why? I understood TIE Fighter, but I don't see any reason for that, so what is the correct nickname and why?
That accent isn’t bad at all
I’m German and not a native English speaker aswell and I can understand absolutely everything without having any issues
Thai Fighter, because it's used by Thai air forces.
Skill issue
I have over 40 games in it... I can't do F all!!!!
While i agree that the F5E could go up to 11.0 in general but i wouldn't uptier the F5C from 10.3. The F5E with the much more powerful engines is a league of it's own. I never liked the F5C because of this, it's engines are just way too weak (and then there is the shitty Aim9E).
TieFighter or ThaiFighter? 😂
Thai fighter but why not both
@@ThatKreizyTT *Empire music intensified*