The Case of Jeffery Pottinger | Mysterious 2009 Disappearance (ACCESS DENIED)
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- Jeffery Pottinger was last seen on Willard Avenue in Carlisle, Ohio on December 18, 2009, before he went missing. He left home at 2:00 p.m., driving his black 1997 Toyota Corolla with the Ohio license plate number BDP8389.
He stated he was going to think about some things...
Pottinger never returned and has never been heard from again, and his vehicle has never been located.
He left behind his medication and money.
Few details are available in his case.
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CASE DETAILS
Missing Since: 12/18/2009
Missing From: Carlisle, Ohio
Sex: Male
Race: White
Date of Birth: 02/10/1964 (58)
Age: 45 years old
Height and Weight: 5'10 - 6'0, 200 - 230 pounds
Medical Conditions
Pottinger suffers from bipolar disorder and may be suicidal. He also sustained a head injury shortly before his disappearance and was experiencing hallucinations as a result. He requires medication that he doesn't have with him.
Associated Vehicle(s)
Black 1997 Toyota Corolla with the Ohio license plate number BDP8389
Distinguishing Characteristics
Caucasian male. Graying hair, brown/hazel eyes. Pottinger had neck surgery with implants not long before his disappearance.
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As always an amazing effort from the entire team! Jared always says we give answers. Keep looking! Yesterday I had the honor of meeting Jacob and Lindsay from Chaos Divers and Britain from Depths of History! I told Jacob I got lost on the way and asked for directions at an auto parts store and they saw me wearing my AWP hoodie and I asked if I was a team member because they had been on the news. I said no, but when Jacob heard this he said you’re a part of our team! My heart grew 20 times larger! When I left they all smiled and waved to me! AWP really is everyone. What a wonderful group of people!
That's awesome
@@reg4211 It was amazing to meet them! I traveled 5 hours! This is once in a lifetime! No cars were pulled out due to high water. Meeting them was priceless!
@@dTrout-mo2rp I think they do. They see it through our comments, donations, purchasing merchandise, and subscriptions. They are humble, selfless, and are just down to earth good people! They inspire so many of us to believe in ourselves and others.
@@melissaford4824 good for you! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I got the picture Jacob sent over. Glad you made it.
Oh my God, this really hit home for me. My only child drowned in a Ohio quarry in 1988. Luckily he was with friends and he was recovered later that night. Thank you AWP for all you do.
Sorry for your loss. I can't imagine what it's like to lose a child. God bless you
Thanks for being brave to share your story. You have an AWP family now.
Sue, I'm so sorry for the loss of your child, I can only imagine how awful that must be. My thoughts are with you.
So sorry for the loss if your son .❤️🩹
So sorry for the loss of your son!
I live 10 minutes away from here... pretty disgusting that this company won't allow a recovery search for a HUMAN BODY. They can make all the excuses they want but this is morally repugnant.
Thanks for all you do Adventures with Purpose! You all are amazing. ❤
Now my thing is would they being saying that to the authorities probably not. Are they hiding something
I so agree!! Shamefull...
@@shannonlee081509 They aren't hiding shit. They are union workers working for a corporation and you follow rules or you start looking for another job. They are also probably lazy and this was the easiest way to avoid having any involvement with having to explain what is what to some dickhead pencil pusher at the office 5 states away. That's just how life works, there's no "conspiracy" here for you to glom onto, it's just reality.
Sorry, I have to disagree. I also think that your harsh words and judgment are more morally repugnant. 😔 It's a business, they have to protect themselves. Diving is not an easy, harmless activity, it's a risk operation! He didn't refuse, he said they would have to make preparations, and he's absolutely right! If something happens during search/diving, he may very well be legally implied.
Surely they could get a search warrant? Here in the UK a warrant would be executed and a search put in place? Like you said, it's for a human, not a lost ball or an animal. A human being. This really stinks. What are they hiding?
I am so proud of you and your crew. My husband went missing Dec. 1978, WA. State. Dec 2021. His remains were identified after being buried for thirty years. I watch y'all all the time. Thank for helping families no one else will touch.. GOD bless you.❤️
Oh goodness, prayers to you and your grief process.
So sorry for your loss!
🌷🌷🌷Mary we are so sorry for your loss. What a nightmare it all must feel like. So Blessed we have folks like this who care, really care!?! Washingtonian here -well aware of the massive forests.I just hope he was lost to an accident not foul play. I’m grateful he was finally found for you & your family’s sake. Praying many blessings upon you. God Bless you Mary✝️🙏🏻
Buried? Omgoodness i hope they find whomever. Buried him. Prayers and hugs to you and your/his family 🙏❤🙏
Omg prayers for you and glad you finally got answer but not the ones you wanted
This is literally 15 mins from my home! I would have been ecstatic to see you guys driving around. It would be an honor to buy you guys dinner, my wife and I are huge fans of the amazing work you do!
It’s always a honor to help try and bring answers to the families Right beside AWP thanks for allowing us to help!
I’m so glad you guys and gals work together. It was a pleasure meeting you, Lindsay, and Britain last Wednesday in Ohio! You guys are so cool, down to earth, and are just great people doing great things. I’m the pink haired girl who had to touch the iconic RV! Remember I told you that I stopped at an auto store because I got lost and they asked if I was part of the crew? I said no, but when I told you, you said I was part of the team! That meant a lot to me! Keep on diving! We’ll keep on backing you! It’s not worth it to stop!
I live in Franklin. I was wondering if you guys have thought about searching the quarry that’s basically on the Carlisle Germantown border.
Good job and so humble.
you're an important part of the movement. lots of love from the UK.xx
Jeff was my father and he left when I was 13, we lived on willard ave in carlisle
My dad drowned when I was 16. I really appreciate what these guys do, your heartwarming stories for everybody involved and occasionally it even makes me cry when they recover somebody keep up the good work gentleman.
So so sorry for your loss how awful poor thing. 😔
I’m so sorry you lost your dad.
Yeah it was 52 years ago, almost 70 now but still lost out on a lot of time that I would have gotten to spend with my dad if he still been here with me
Very sorry for your loss. 💔
Sorry for your loss, these guys can bring a tear to my eyes quickly not only because of what they do but the level of care and respect they show the victims and there families.
I hope that corporation sees this and GRANTS ACCESS for your return, to bring Jeffery back to his family. It’s the right thing to do. Thank you AWP for all your efforts, especially the denied ones.
While it's the right thing to do to let them in ,this should be a lesson to private owned properties as well. While we all want to bring some sort of closure to the family and friends ,you need to protect yourself from liability.That corporation probably has deep pockets.
So when one of the divers has an accident and either dies or is somehow injured and not able to provide for his family and children.A lawsuit is filed ,and under deposition you'll hear the corporation employee allowed an amateur dive team to be there.
That's an easy 10M or more settlement that corps insurance will deny.
Will that likely happen ? Probably not.But I wouldn't want the liability .
Keep up the great work
I guess it will be very difficult, not only liability/insurance issues but it could also attract (bad) publicity - headline: body found on Willy Wonka's property -,
a crime scene can appear so maybe operations must be halted for a while, some (bad) practices that can attract internal and external auditors.
They chosen (sadly but kinda understandable) the easy and safe way out.
It would be nice if a top shot was confident in his company and provide all the support to make it happen. Just for the family and local community.
@Kabuki Kitsune yea but that literally can all be solved with a waiver contract. Basically saying said party agrees that the company is not responsible for their actions.
To be fair if people didn’t sue for everything then maybe we wouldn’t have to have so many ridiculous rules and people would be more open to helping more people.
@@woodrowbunopaddle so this means ... they have to... "go in holiday jouney and leaving the key under the doormat" ? Is that possible?
Because ... if noone "knows" then... it should work? But means no Video for US too ... brcause Videos... "have knowledge"...
Not all hero's wear capes. Some wear diving gear. Thank you for all you do to bring family members home so they can be laid to rest.
This hits super hard because I grew up with this guy and his family. His son was my childhood friend who I was with every single day. Jeff was a great guy and is truly missed.. I just wish the whole family could get some answers...
This must of been difficult for you to watch at best. I do read comments as I watch and your the only person friend, that added a comment. Thanks for making this more personal. This is real for you and for us watching.
When I started watching this man dive in rivers for just stuff…..now he’s solving the lost ones. Incredible thank you for all the video you have posted.
I couldn't imagine the reactions if this man was at the bottom of that lake they got denied access to. Unbelievable
At 6:43 when the property owner finds out there is a truck next to the car, he sounds a bit nervous. Especially when he immediately ask if the police are going to be called... suspicious
I feel like as soon as a possibility of a crime scene he completely shut down, and was like no. Do they know something we don't? I just don't understand why he couldn't have even called to ask. Keep up the amazing work you guys do!
I thought the same thing. His whole attitude changed, definitely seems suspicious.
It’s because they don’t want to be sued if his body is in there quarry
He probably was the one who did it. Now realizing that he can be caught decided to deny the access knowing he was going to be caught.
That’s a reach considering any big company would want protection against liability. He probably thought he was meeting with someone tied to the police department and when he found out they weren’t, he had rules to follow. That seems more logical, especially considering it will all be on camera. He may have been more likely to break rules if it was a private thing.
@@theloudhouse122 Don't be an idiot...smh
I lived in Carlisle & moved about 5 min away. I’ve been following you for 2yrs & was in shock you said Carlisle OH. We are such a small town feel community around here. It’s really disappointing what the company did & I wish the people in my area could do something about it.
I think the change in Ian's demeanor could certainly be that the way the message was given to him by dispatch is that someone went missing TODAY and law enforcement wanted to check there. He was willing to work with law enforcement on a fresh missing persons case, which is great. When he heard it is an old case and he found you weren't law enforcement, I think that's the difference. Law enforcement couldn't hold his company liable for any issues that happen to them, but private citizens could. It's reasonable - unfortunate, but understandable. Hopefully you can call them ahead of your next trip to the area to give them time to prepare whatever they need to give you permission.
That’s completely true but if you watch their other videos they always tell them their city, state, & insurance etc are not responsible for them they’re doing this on their own as volunteers.
Holy Moly!!!! 21 cold cases solved....already? In such a short time?.
Wow!
jared you are an amazing person. i never imagined that awp would become something so massive. but you all did something no one else did. you brought over 2 million people together as a huge family of amazing supporters to help you all search for missing persons and solving over 20 cases and many more to follow. so many families felt lost and abandoned by the police, and yes most police dont have the resources or the training, and some just dont want to help. its amazing that you are all out there everyday searching. 2 teams this year will definitely maximize the search efforts. we all love you jared. doug, carson, josh. thank you to all the amazing supporters. your help gave 21 families resolution! and to jacob grubbs and all the others that have solved cases to.your all amazing aswell. i will always support, i always wear my shirts and hoodies and my hat to show support for this amazing movement and be here showing my continued support. if you love what awp is doing and want to be part of the team then hit that subscribe button! love you guys. from your friend james rideout
I concure
Thank You, for bringing 21 people back to their families.
WOW!!! I feel your frustration at being so close to a prime search area and then being denied by the red tape they wrap you up in. Thanks for the effort guys.
Just saw a news article for the find in Idaho. You guys are what the country needs.
I agree with others on here and with Doug. The corporate red tape is exactly because they don't want to deal with it. How unfortunate. Hopefully AWP will be able to come back and play their game ahead of time. Thank you guys for all that you do and try to do. God bless you!
Maybe they can get profiling evil to get involved in obtaining the proper paperwork to search. He was able to do it in Utah on another search with the diesel bros.
@@Bonzi_Buddy if only people who spent the time to get outraged and try to push society around would get outraged over stuff that mattered like this.
That guy looked suspicious. I think it was because he was worried about some other issue. Local.
Did everyone miss that this is Koi farm? Maybe AWP missed that too… that’s why he said that there is training required. There may be equipment and pumps in that pond, and if they’re actively breeding, full of valuable fish! If it was an emergency, then he was okay, but if it’s a cold case, then that changes it.
@@karenneill9109 People over property. Every time. If it's a liability issue, have them sign a waiver. If it's a matter of harming fish/property, tough stuff. This is a person whose family needs answers and to bring their loved one home, and that should trump property every time. I get the sense, though, as others have pointed out, that these folks have something else to hide not related to this case, but related to that body of water. Otherwise they would've simply had them sign a waiver, and perhaps something stating that they accept any damages incurred to property in the process of the search.
When Jared said "Do you know anything about it?" His demeanor changed. It sounded like he was a detective wanting info. I think he became scared at what they would find
I can't believe you got denied. I mean I get it but the fact that he came and was so friendly, opened the gate and everything and then was like "No." That's BS, honestly. I really hope they let you guys go search that quarry. Thank you guys for all you do!
I think Ian wanted to get off work on time. Heaven forbid he would have had to work over to help find someone. Some people aren’t willing to go the extra mile to help a stranger and it’s very sad. 😞
@Courtney Allen-I can believe it, that's a corporation that knows nothing about AWP, Chaos Divers or anyone. They're worse than dealing with the feds, they don't care about a missing person, very typical!
@@carokat1111 It will cause trouble to him more than the family. Besides they can return later on after the paperwork is done.
Oh just a bolt thru holding gate.. oh now he knows alot ..
@@DD-wd7ku and @Caroh I’ve worked with guys like Ian before. They want to hurry and get out the door when it’s time to get off work. Paperwork doesn’t take that long to fill out. AWP knows what ones to send. He didn’t OFFER to send the paperwork at all, so YES, it WAS a FAIR assessment!!! 🤦♀️
It is really heart wrenching when you are so close to the water, but then denied access. I believe you guys did your very best to search for Jeffrey Pottinger’s vehicle. It’s sad that he wasn’t found, but there is always hope for the next time you search. At least, you know where he is not. My thoughts & prayers go out to the family. Thank you to Jared, Doug, Jacob, Lindsey, Josh and Carson!!! In one part of this video we saw the close up of little white & yellow flowers, I was thinking, I wonder if Josh took that? It was just a moment, but to me it was humbling & sweet scene of the local area. As always stay safe in all you do. Sending peace & light to guide your path in the next search! 💓😊
And Britain!
@@hyperactivejaz I don't remember seeing Brit there, but he may have been. Thanks for catching that.
I’m so glad you guys still do your part to bring back many lives home. You guys are just incredible. God bless y’all.
I love watching these guys because they are so respectful to families.
Jared, you are always so calm and optimistic. I love listening to you and watching the videos. Very calming to me in dark moments
21 cases solved! That is extraordinary, just extraordinary!
Wow I'm really close to this area, grew up in Middletown Ohio. There is a body of water up the road from Franklin in Middletown called Smith pond in Smith park. From what I was told it used to be an old Quarry and is about 100' deep in areas super easy to drive a car into and I doubt it's ever been searched. Thanks for all that you guys do, keep up the awesome work.
Every time I look at your intro, I get a shiver.so many souls who were allowed to return home thanks to you.in times of war and hatred, it is so important to be able to experience people like you. People who help completely selfless, that is so precious, thank you guys ♥️
I’m sure if this had been arrons son we would have had no problem getting in there to search. Maybe you need to print off some sheets to keep in your rv. Just releasing anyone from responsibility. You guys do a great job keep up the good work.
This hit home..... same river....My grampa drowned in that same river he was fishing with friends and fell overbord. His death was ruled suspicious.... (he was a navy seal) my grandma was left to take care of 6 children under the age of 12.... thank you for all your videos and work you all out in.
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What you all do is so selfless and amazing!! As a former member of law enforcement in Miami, Fl. So many times we wondered if someone went over a bridge or some body of water. A lot of these cases went unsolved. It was just too much water to cover. It was the hardest part of the job either notifying the family that we’ve recovered their loved one or telling them we’ve exhausted all the leads and we can’t give them closure. Thank you for what you’re doing I know it’s very emotionally taxing but what you are doing is invaluable to these peoples families!!! God bless and be safe!!
In a situation like this where you are getting the corporate requirement run around, it would be nice to have a local TV station / reporter documenting your search and just by chance mention on the news broadcast that you were denied access to search the area where there is a high probability of finding the individual.
Agreed! 100%
It's very reasonable for a corporation to uphold its standards no matter the circumstances.
My first UW recovery in late 90’s I ran face to face with the 12 yr old victim. Had many more after that, saw lots more as a Paramedic state side and contractor overseas for 20 years, but that along with carrying him out while his parents stood on the bank haunts me still
I can only imagine how traumatic that must have been. Thank you for all your years of service and that the amazing work you have done and people you have helped can bring you some peace from the trauma
I appreciate every single thing you all do to give these families answers. I heard yous volunteered to look for Summer Wells and they denied you that is absolutely ridiculous.
Let’s take a moment to appreciate the production quality and how respectful these guys are!
I honestly hope they get clearance to search that one area. The fact so many people have said "We believe he could be in this spot" says a lot. I hope the corporation sees your videos and all the good thag your organization is doing and grants access.
It's wild to think how many insurance fraud cars you find. Thank you for what you guys do and always reaching out with a helping hand. Much love and God bless.
Martin Marietta owns Franklin Gravel. They are a huge corp, one of those orgs that don't do anything without multiple layers of CYA forms (in triplicate) and a mountain of authorizations. Trying to work your way up the admin ladder for access is a waste of time and effort. Best way to appeal to them is through their PR department.
Maybe a national shame campaign would wake them up.
Get on Twitter and give them some "PR.". They'll get bombarded.
Heart breaking but Hopeful he is found 🙌 Thank you guys for being the boots on the ground!!
He wasn't found, still missing
Hopefully he is found. AWP is truly a Blessing to many Families. With the amount of attention they put on these cases I pray others get together and they finally find Mr. Pottinger.
I really hope that you get access to that area. Jared you and your team are amazing people. Thank you for all you do for the families. You all are always in my thoughts and prayers. Keep doing what you do and please stay safe. You are Angels in disguise.
I agree with Doug - the complicated hoops we’re just to stonewall you. I agreed with what others have said as well - you said
“… then it’s a crime scene…” and all the walls started dropping. He could see corporate watching the news and their quarry associated with a “crime scene” and imagining his retirement disappearing along with his job.
I love what you gentlemen do. Thank you for every minute that you spend working on these cases and away from home.
Blessings and abundance to you all.
Great humanitarian work guys. The Lord blesses you, watch over you and protect you all from evil while you work for the almighty by helping broken hearts find peace. Amen.
I started watching your channel when you were exploring rivers and cleaning out junk and cars for the environment and look at you now!
Hi beautiful brave people, great efforts as always, its a shame you were denied the chance too search that quarry. I know yall will get him home if given the chance. Stay safe angels. Xxx
I feel that guy at 2nd quarry attitude changed the minute it was mentioned that if car was found with correct number plate it then becomes a crime scene,he seemed to react to that and how the company would react to quarry becoming crime scene.
Agreed
I worked for Martin Marietta and he was telling you guys the truth about this company being safe and requires so much paperwork to access the quarry for something like you guys are doing. I did the same job as Christy the lady that answered the phone. I was proud of how polite she was to you guys. Ian was nice but to the point.
It is amazing what all of you do to try and get answers for all of families.
Keep up with the awesome work
I totally understand the worry from the corporate guy. That is when I ask what would happen if you found someone random on your lake and can you pretend you never saw us?
uhm... but he *_can't_* pretend he never saw them... it's all over youtube and global now. one look at this video and _somebody's_ butt is gonna be cooked.
@@kstormgeistgem461 I know. It was more of a joke. Even if they did say something like that it would just be a joke and hopefully lighten the mood a bit.
My husband works for Martin Marietta and they do have strict guide lines. It would have been nice if you could have gone in there.
This might sound a bit weird but watching these amazing human beings gives me a sense of peace. Such great people helping to alleviate others suffering for nothing more than the satisfaction of knowing they did the best they could gives me faith that this chaotic world has a future. So, thank you guys, you do so much more good than you know.
Totally understand your frustration on not being able to check that quarry. Being right there, I would have been tempted to wait an hour until that gate opener was long gone & went in anyway, just to know before leaving town. Hopefully, local PD can clear all the hurdles when you make it back next time. Please keep us updated on this one in the near future & thank you all once again for everything you do for the families of the missing. You truly are ANGELS. Lots of love from Baltimore.
Actually, to all who disagree with the MMarrietta rules, this is standard procedure in an active a deactivated mining operations. These operations fall under strict Federal and state guidelines. I have been in the industry for 23 years, and am pretty sure the employee would have lost his job and also brought Federal and state inspectors to the mine. This would end up in major fines and possible loss of permits, to the mine owners.
Yep, sad part they may never get to see if he's in their or not. Because if the police thought for one minute that he was in that lake they would have gotten a warrant long time ago..
@@emmie3942 If only that were true. In this area the police hardly respond to active murder investigations... they certainly don't care about cold case suicides.
My husband works in stone quarries in this area and they have to take MSHA training every year it's very strict how they regulate these things still I hope Doug and Jared get in there eventually
I really hate to know that people in my homestate would not allow you to search for someone. That was not ok with me. Thanks for showing our southern hospitality Ian. He could very possibly be in there. If it were his family member, he would want to be granted access. 😔
I bet he would, but also make you wonder does someone know something and don’t want it found out!!! Just seems fishy 😢😢😢 God bless you AWP
I’m following you all from Blackpool in the UK.
I love your videos and justify hunk that what you guys do is just so worthwhile and a necessary thing to bring closure to so many families who are missing loved ones.
Whilst watching this case about Mr Pottinger, you spoke to a gentleman called Ian. I don’t know if it was just me but when you said that if you do find anything pertinent to the case that it then becomes a crime scene is when I feel like his whole attitude changed towards your reason for asking for access. It’s so frustrating but from a corporate point nod view understandably necessary to cover everyone.
Please keep on doing what you are doing. You are all heroes xx
Only came across your channel 6th may 2022, only thought I was going to be watching divers bringing up some scrap or antiques. but what you and your team actually do touches the heart so uplifting. closure for Families losing a loved one. great work.
You guys have worked so hard in the freezing cold all winter long to alleviate some of the suffering of families with missing loved ones. Very glad the spring is here and the work will be easier for you. Thank you for your compassion and hard work.
Boy this is a great case for that remote controlled RC boat just put it in and no liability for anyone unless there is a vehicle in there
Thank you for giving the families closure. Bless you guys.
I love when the local police are willing to help, provide information and advice.
My bother drowned (along with 4 other people) when I was about 10 (61 now). Their bodies were never found.
The answers and sometimes the closure you provide families is wonderful!
@@carriebaker5161 no, they were in a boat on Skilak lake in Alaska. Huge glacier fed lake
@@carriebaker5161 Good luck on your first case!! As far as my brother - the lake is 15 miles long and up to 4 miles wide. It is also glacier fed. Would be like searching for a needle in a haystack in winter. Not a wise use of your time. But thanks for the thought
Was surprised to see you where practically in my back yard. I cant help but think about how the officer said he was last seen heading towards Springboro. I immediately thought of Caesars creek. Its a straight shot down SR 73 east. That lake has a number of ramps and is very deep. Beyond that I can think of a number of other locations within 15 or 20 minutes. Good luck and keep up the good work!
I love when law enforcement works with you not against you. They realize your here to help bring answers to families
What a fantastic team so honoured that the world has ppl like this keep up the loving work stay safe sending much love from uk 🇬🇧
Why couldn't you get a warrant to search the property? Someone at the PD could definitely help you out with that. They get them ALL the time. Just because it's a small town doesn't mean it can't be done. The cop that took the plates could probably steer you in the right direction.
Shame corporate dock blocked you!
In meantime, you're confirming where he's is not.
Thank you Teams for your combined efforts. Praying someone will have a change of heart.
Stay safe in your travels!!
@@loli_cvnt5622 Right, they were only in town for a day. There are people that could organized everything they need, then return to town.
I have gone my entire life being told my great grandfather drowned in NC. My grandfather died thinking his dad drowned. They searched and drug the river for 4 days with zero found. For you guys to be helping so many it does help with a type of closure. I have done ancestry and everything to figure out what happened. Yall are the best.
Awesome people and very caring to help find those missing people.Great work your doing..
Nice to see you were close to my hometown Dayton, Ohio. You guys are doing amazing work.
Our condolences to those who have lost loved ones to mental illness. We have come a long way the last few years in understanding mental illness but there is still so much more to learn.
adventures with a purpose you all are amazing human beings!! y'all give me hope that this world is a better place then I believe it is. love your channel love what your doing for ppl, love all of you for the answers you all bring to family after years of not knowing . YOU ALL ARE FREAKING WONDERFUL
be safe and continue doing what ya all have been doing
Carson and josh are amazing editors this stuff is edited like a Netflix show I love it !!
Jared and his team do amazing job in finding missing loved ones. Sometimes they do a better job than the police who don't try hard enough. Jared you have so much respect love and kind heart for families who have been trying for years to no were there love ones are. Enjoying watching your videos so much needs to be more people like you.
After seeing so many missing people found in their vehicles underwater,it makes me wonder just how many more missing people might be in a lake close to their homes that have not been discovered yet. It's ashamed that there are so many unsolved missing person's reports that have not been solved for so many years. There are so many surviving family members with so many unanswered questions about their missing loved ones. You guys are amazing at what y'all do and how many families y'all have put their minds and hearts at peace because y'all recovered their loved ones. God bless every single one of y'all and your families that are so supportive and patient with y'all being away for periods of time. I know that has to be rough on all of y'all.
you and your team are amazing 👏 ❤️ 🙌
I lost my 6 year old sister back in the 40s to drowning. Thank you for bringing home so many soles.
I was irritated by the way the man was speaking about getting all of these forms filled out and to “make an appointment”. I agree with Doug! He just didn’t want to mess with it so just pass the buck!
Anyway, thank you for all that you do!! Stay safe!
Great job guys, as always, never give up and keep trying.
I'm sorry, but at the second quarry, as soon as he asked if he knew of any dumped cars there. The guys says no you can't come in right now! After he opens the gate for them! Seems kind of fishy to me.
I felt like, if they had just driven in and not talked to the guy, they could have searched.
I thought he got concerned with it when it was explained about a diver going in. That is when he got concerned about liability. As a lawyer, I fully understand why he wanted a release and hold harmless agreement, and he didn't have the authority to approve it - he had to go to a supervisor, no doubt. I don't think there is anything fishy there, unless of course the quarry is now a koi farm, in which case it would be very fishy!
@@lwk4229 He was wise not to do that. He could be arrested for trespassing if he got caught.
@@yes2day100 Oh for sure, it was the right path, just, disappointing that this guy was a pill.
As soon as Jared said "Crime Scene", and we are done here. Too much information given.
AVP is doing a wonderful job of doing their best to bring closure to heart broken families, thank you. Be aware that your teams appearance is either an asset to your viewers or not. Jared, your appearance is always presented as a professional during your show. Our appearance Off the show Is of course totally individual.
To have a guy go there open they gate, then tell you can't get in because red tape. Why open the gate? Yeah decided he didn't want to deal with it if the guy was in there. Hope you get to get in there to search. Best PR for the company is to say yes.
It's just so frustrating to lose so many wonderful people in our community. 45 thousand people commit suicide in America each year. That is so devastating to our society. A simple smile and how are you doing to a stranger helps more than you know. Thank you guys for bringing closure to another suffering family. God Bless you and your team and for the families that have to endure this pain.🕊🕊🕊
My nephew drowned on the Rio Grande while swimming and it took 3 months to find his body ..... thank you guys for what you're doing , and seriously, whoever constructed that dock should be ashamed of themeselves , I worked in construction before I retired and whoever drilled thru that truck, he knew it was there or that something was there, they simply didn't give a crap .... just like u stated ..."there a lot of trash and tires underwater" .... and that took yrs to happen, why didn't authorities didn't search that spot ... they had 20 plus yrs to do it and why do they allow all that trash to be thrown in the river... 🙄😠🙄
Hopefully you bring him home soon. So he can rest and his family can have answers. Jerard, daug you guys are the best. Thank you for what awp does.
Sometimes a disappointing medical appointment is triggering. I know I’ve felt hopeless and in despair after bad appointments (ie bad news) - I can see how Jeff might take that as a sign from the universe to get out. 😞
The universe does not speak to anyone.
Agree. Receiving major medical news can be so traumatic, I can understand suicide thoughts after such news.
@@Revelation18-4 Universe talks constantly. Some people refuse to listen or misunderstand. But yes universe speaks. Facts.
These guys are heroes to me..they help people for free..who else would do this ..and they leave theirs family to come from state to state to help and fine loves ones that didn't know where theirs love one went.. adventures with purpose are Heroes very caring men bringing your loved ones home..
Jared and Doug we love you guys ✨️💖✨️🙏✨️✌️✨️👍
I hope you guys get the opportunity to get into that quarry to check on a future trip. Regardless, great work as always. I love how thorough you are with each case. 🙏
The corporate guy was in on you guys searching the quarry. As soon as it sunk in that it would become a crime scene if you found the car, the door slammed shut. He knew why you were there, it was explained to him on the phone or else you would have had to explain it yourselves. He opened the gate as soon as he got there and was letting you in. I'll bet the farm that either he called the home office or a higher up got word of your request. Ian got a call asking for an explanation and, when he mentioned a possible crime scene, corporate didn't want the company name connected to a crime. I hope you guys will be willing to jump through the hoops required to get clearance to search because my gut says that he is there.
Naa Holly you're too smart and thinking about it too much. It was all simple while watching it.
He was cool with the search during the period of time that he thought it was a recent missing person case. The second he realized it was a case from years ago he decided he was too lazy to deal with it and it wasn't his problem, in that moment he himself alone added the red tape.
This company will get far more negative publicity from declining access to a cold case investigation than they ever would just being attached to a solved old cold case on their property.
This manager is just incompetent and if his bosses see this video he'll probably get the shaft rightfully.
‘Boots on the ground’, or could say ‘fins in the water’. You guys always demonstrate courage and heart.
sorry you didn't get the excess you needed to help find him, just come back another day when you can search for the missing. love all of you from Colorado
Glad you guys are finally checking Ohio! I mean you have been for a while now but still! Glad for what you guys do!
Thank you For helping People find closure and Being so Caring!❤❤
As soon as Jarred mentioned a possible crime scene to the quarry guy, he shut you down. I don't think it had anything to do with liability. He was about to let you in no questions asked before that.
Bless the team🙏🙏🙏
A few years back in my early teens my mom had told me that one of her friends nephew had drowned in Beaver Lake by the dam and he was with some friends swimming over by there when it had happened and I couldn’t remember if he had been recovered or they couldn’t find him. I never meet him but I tried giving my moms friend some support after I found out.
I'm so glad that you have helped so many people, from family to friends. What your doing is so very appreciated! ♥️🌹♥️🌹♥️🌹♥️🌹♥️🌹♥️🌹♥️🌹♥️🌹♥️🌹
Have you ever checked with your lawyers about insurance coverage for your team and a legal no responsibility form?
I figured they had insurance, would be a good idea.
it doesn't matter if you sign waivers. even with a waiver someone can certainly still be sued. waivers are security blankets. tons of people get sued anyway.
Then our court system needs to be addressed
@@rosemaryojeda5949 LOL Along with all the rest of our systems😆😅🤣😂
To those that are saying that the guy knows something, or is hiding something. Take a step back and think of a simpler answer. The place is a corporate owned facility that has rules and requirements to follow. Is this guy gonna risk his job by not having them go through with the paperwork and risk them getting hurt? Yes the AWP team is professionals, Yes the chances of them getting hurt are very slim. The chance is still there though and they dont want the liability of that without the proper agreements in place. Not everything is a conspiracy and i hope that in future videos they tone down the conspiracy rhetoric and go with the more likely situations.
Facts
I didn't feel what they were saying was conspiracy theories, it's a i don't want to deal with all the paperwork if they find something or get hurt, I'll let my higher ups deal with it and let them talk to these people.
The guy Ian was going to let them in until he heard crime scene, he and the company/corporate should be ashamed of them self's!
Although I agree not everything is a “conspiracy” however I can’t figure out why even the whisper of the possibility of a real conspiracy triggers people. The only way to “tone down” the conspiracy rhetoric in this video is to cut out the whopping 2 minutes they spoke of anything that could be interpreted as conspiracy related that’s the only part. So what I think you really mean is there are no real conspiracies ever and how dare someone even consider the possibilities.
It has to be the constant vilification of anyone who goes against the mainstream narrative that has created what I see as yet another way to maintain lies. They’ve convinced many to ostracize, bully, ignore, and even cut people out of their lives for believing the truth is being hidden about some things.
@@dianefisher8646 once a crime scene they should have an option.
Thank you guys for all that you tried to do and did helping this family with their missing loved one. Please be safe!!!!
I really enjoy seeing everyone working together to find closure for these families. God bless.
I’m only a minute in but here’s my thinking already…the stigma that surrounds mental illness is so sad to me because none of us make a choice when it comes to mental health struggles! It’s our make up. We have no choice in it. Enough with the stigma!
Literally yesterday I had a family member message me on Facebook telling me I was setting a bad example for my children by being depressed. It's not like I want to be feeling like this!
@@brianna_ray I'm sorry you were told that. I might suggest that your family member is the one setting a bad example by not showing compassion and kindness. A better help may have been to offer to take the kids out for a couple of hours if they were truly concerned about the kids being around your "example" so much. 💚
@@brianna_ray seriously? Like anyone would CHOOSE to suffer (because we all know that depression robs you of so much!) and have it affect our children! I’m so sorry they said that. I can understand if they tried coming at you with a loving “hey, I’m here for you and the kids, how can I help?” but it doesn’t sound like that happened. I’ve been there and the guilt is horrible. I suffered with postpartum depression for way too long and I remember my husband telling me that my depression was affecting him and the kids and I was crushed. I hadn’t realized just how bad it was until I started to feel better. Anyone who has been affected by anxiety, depression, any mental health disorder, does not choose to go through it. You’d really think by 2022 that would’ve changed. There’s much work to still be done!
@@NeatNoodle exactly! Those kind of people can be so cruel. I have a couple of family members that suffer with significant mental health disorders but won’t address them but always have something to say to others that are struggling.
@@julezmmm [sad shake of the head] there's always _somebody_ with a word or two of "advice" isn't there.
i spent my childhood being told to "stop being such a downer".
and people try to tell us that family is everything then wonder why we just stare daggers at them.