You can't even give an up front price on a job like that. So what was the final bill? If you dont mind my asking. The reason I ask is that I just bought an almost identical dump truck. It had to be dragged up onto the rollback it would not roll free. The engine only had 62,000 miles on it. Started right up idle beautifully that's basically what I bought the truck for was the engine. Got the truck for $1,200 don't know if I want to fix it and keep it a dump truck. Or just pull the engine and trans like I intended. The truck had been sitting in the weeds for quite some time. It was part of an estate deal.
Hi Wes, Greetings from the land down under! In my book, you are by far the best content on TH-cam and deserve many more subscribers (they're coming). The lengths you go to troubleshoot problems that most of us would scrap a car over is mind-blowing. Add to that the dry sense of humour. Just perfect! Don't change a thing. You got the recipe right. Keep up the hard work, and thanks for teaching this old dog some new tricks. 👍
Hi Wes. I took care of several tow trucks with this set up back when. Ford serviced this as an assembly, with no individual parts store available. They killed them about every 18 months! I visited a buddy at the UPS shop and they had a pile of them in the corner, too. Props for doing the rebuild. That's why your The King. Roll On!
Yes I remember that I had Fsuperduty trucks the brake assembly came in one piece. I don't remember the exact cost I think it was close to 5 bills. That was back in the early 2000s.
@@logicthought24 Back in the late 90s early 2000 Ford said the emergency brake unit was non serviceable they sold you a new one. Many tow truck operators ran Mico locks in Fsuperduty trucks.
hello Wes , Carl from Texas here. I've been watching your channel a couple years now. I REALLY appreciate the family friendly content since I now have a grand daughter who I'm hyping up to help me builds her a go-kart , I was a Auto tech for many years & also a farm tractor& implement mechanic before that. I can totally relate to the ( uuuhhhh ) sigh you give at times, I laugh with you every TIME ! 😁👍 GOOD JOB !
When my dad was a teenager he took either the input or output shaft out of a transmission while overhauling it. It was tight, so he beat it out with a sledge. Then he realized it had been held in with a c-clip
Bravo Wes another excellent video - no gimmicks, no showboating, no ego-boosting, no nonsense, no b-s….just a great example of a real mechanic who uses his experience and intelligence……and a selection of meaty hammers.
You're giving me flashbacks to my time working at a Ford dealership. Our techs were lazy and just replaced the whole thing. I think the whole assembly was like a thousand bucks twenty-five years ago. Sold so many. I worked in parts.
Lot cheaper for customers to replace it with reman units. The bill would be way higher with all the additional labor to rebuild it, even if everything does go without other problems. By the time you have to add labor and parts to it that get damaged during removal and disassembly, it would make the customer cost way higher.
Nice work Wes. IF it comes back leaking again, you'll want to replace that pressure vent assembly. That's a military vent used on all the military vehicles. They have a soft spring and a rubber flap inside. They love to either swell the rubber or just stick closed and cause pressure and leaking issues. They are super cheap and available but I normally just replace them with a real vent line.
One-third of the way through 90% of Wes's videos, I always have the same thought - Better him than me. I would be cursing up a storm trying to find where the engineer that designed that lives.
Never seen someone rebuild one of those, always replaced the entire unit. Local dealerships and truck shops will not sell the individual repair parts, only the entire unit. Typical local failure was internal bearing explosions or broken case. For any other wrench throwers looking at doing this job, getting an entire ZF with a newer P-brake on the back costs 1/3 the price from a pull yard than just the Pbrake assembly. And now you have a spare ZF for when one of your customers inevitably explodes theirs.
Don't know if you've bought a new microphone, but the sound of the distant birds in the first half of the video was super clear and wonderful!! (I did watch the wrenching content as well...)
This is my type of entertainment! For those without a lathe. If it was my truck, I would have ground out the brake shoe bracket. Just to get the diameter smaller. Sometimes just the paint or powder coat is enough. I’m not a mechanic, just like to work on my own stuff.
LOL! Just got finished with Steve Magnante showing us the P Brake on'54 De Soto Torqueflite - and here's another transmission-borne P Brake, 40 years later! 😁 ... and there's the expected 'Rain of Transmission Fluid"! Always happens - seals always leak. To all the "Why?"s there is one answer: it's a Ford. Thanks for the great work! Happy Father's Day!
I have a hunch that what you encountered happened after the R.T.R. lawyers took the engineers out to a surf and turf 9 course dinner. What you accomplished should have never been possible! You are the Leonardo DaVinci of D.I.Y. repair engineering and I thank you profusely for sharing your every day experiences running your shop with us all!
What engineer thought it was a good idea to take a simple parking brake assembly and make it NASA complicated? They could have mounted a disc rotor on the output housing with a mechanical caliper. Service it all in a matter of minutes and at a fraction of the cost. Thanks for making another interesting video and for including your dog in it. Pets are wonderful!
I learned to just get a replacement brake unit on the first one I ever tried to work on. I had double the hours that it paid to replace it completely, just removing and disassembling the original one. I never made that mistake again lol. I have brazed and rebored those clutch rods many times, I wish I had known about that repair kit you used. That's a nice set up.
Wes, you have far more patience than any man should have. Having worked as a mechanic for a living, I know how frustrating these things are. Hat's off to you sir, you're top of the line in my opinion. Thanks for sharing your video.
I really can't get over how clever the channel logo is; I really dig it, along with the effort you're putting into editing. Great stuff, thankful as always Wes!
I know I watched this when it came out, but damnit I'm here again because TH-cam recommended it to me after all this time. Love watching your trials and tribulations with these... majestic.... pieces of old iron.
Well, I hope it's not coming back for parking brake service any time soon since the warning light problem was not corrected. The guy driving is probably gonna forget again and trash it. That was a real pain to have to do all over again. Great content thanks for sharing. Have a happy father's day Wes and everyone else.
Hats off to Wes and anyone who can lie on his back in such a confined space. I always get real nauseous if I try that. Even oil changes have become a real chore these days.
Thank you, Wes! You have made an old man feel much better after watching you struggle with that stupid thing. My son has a '96 F-Super Duty with the same parking brake. I have it apart, found replacement parts but had the same issue with the drum being way too tight to put back on. I wasn't sure how to address it, but seeing you turn it down some, I have my answer. Thanks again!
ZF ... Zero Fuchs? 🤩😜 OMG I rebuilt / rewired a two speed 3 phase German motor with internal brake at the back of the rotor. It slid when engaged to lift off the rear cover. The rear cover threads onto the case. Dumbest smartest thing ever. Italians have an insult for this: "clever" Great job getting through this! It helps me when I'm slogging through my 1986 CF7000's problems. 🥺
That parking brake job takes me back to my days as a fork truck mobile engineer for Clark Equipment. Their C500 truck had a small external Bendix parking brake fitted, worked fine for 12 months but then was useless. Access was awfull, had to drain the transmission and the drive flange wouldn’t clear the cross member so had to split the engine mounts and jack the engine a couple of inches. Work was usually undertaken in the owners yard, outside and in the rain... Forget the o ring on the drive shaft, all the oil would leak all over your nice new brake shoes and drum... Deep joy..
Nowadays you're not supposed to fix anything they want you to get a new one which is usually obsolete 6 months after it's built and unobtainable. Recently had to fix something the part in US price was unbelievable with 2 month lead time. Found it it Australia fo 1/4 the price delivered and had it in 4 days. You are a grat mechanic and lot more patient than me. Great job
Crikey! We must live in parallel universes. Friend of mine who lives in country Victoria was fixing the old family SAAB. Turns out Rock Auto were cheaper than the local bloke... delivered from USA! May I ask what part it was just out of interest?
Thanks for showing the difficulty of working underneath the dash. Personally I’d rather rebuild that emergency break than work under the dash to be honest. At least you don’t have to turn yourself into a pretzel to get the job done. Keep up the great video content. Looking forward to the next one!
Wes, I was just watching Steve Magnante’s “Junkyard Crawl” and he was talking about a DeSoto that had a Powerflight automatic trans from 1954 with the same setup for a parking brake, what a coincidence, go figure! BTW, Nice work and HAPPY FATHER'S DAY!
Thanks for rebuilding this instead of discarding the unit with a bunch of good parts and getting a full assembly. It's great to reduce material waste to be more sustainable and I think I see that in your choices and values. Hopefully those who sell the assembly, hopefully they have a core charge and rebuild the units for similar reasons.
After years of grinding gears in my old 1990 IDI, I replaced the clutch pushrod with that same heim joint kit. But that was only part of the problem... These trucks used plastic bushings at the 2 pivot points that transfer movement around the brake pedal to the clutch master cyl. When the plastic wears out, the magnesium pedal hanger bracket is next to wear. That part was no longer available (different dash in '90 - you can still get the '92-'97) and my pivot holes were egg shaped. I took it to a machine shop and had them install Oilite bushings into the pedal bracket with what the machinist called "pro JB-Weld". It was probably just JB-Weld but it worked really well! Downside was, I had to tear the entire dash apart to get to that dang bracket. Bad, bad Ford engineers.
Nice job Wes. That device should last the life of the truck but stuff happens. The reason we need excellent technicians like yourself who will accept the challenge and do the correct repairs. Happy Father’s Day.
Keep up the good work wes! Love the videos and you always find a way to solve a unique problem that pops up in the process of working on the old, crusty, worn out vehicles that seem to pop up. I learn new things all the time watching your content, i appreciate it and strive to be half the mechanic you are one day
Came here from your most recent driveline parking brake video. I have to pull this unit off a E450 to bolt up a transfer case, so I appreciated the great video on the removal!
Your videos and the quality keep getting better and better. This video did not disappoint. Thanks buddy and hope you're enjoying the breath of cool weather we're being blessed with again. Talk about a strange spring/summer. Not complaining at all, pretty sure you aren't either.
Always more than anticipated, but, at least your customer brought to the right shop with the right person to work on it. Happy Father’s Day young man. Thanks for the ride along.
Drive-line parking brakes have been around for a long time but I don't remember seeing one that complex before. I remain convinced that if one of today's college educated engineers were to redesign the wheel, it would be incredibly expensive and next to impossible to service. Good job Wes!
Way to go, Wes! I thought 'replacing the whole sub-assembly' as a norm came a little after this vintage of vehicle. One that gets me is wheel bearings. Instead of $30 bearings, they just want to offer $300 hub assemblies these days. From the ZF / German design perspective, it might be intended for the brake to last the life of the other parts (bearings etc.) because...'you can't wear it out unless you drive around with it set...and no one does that?'
My belgian shepherd is also 9years now and limps since a few weeks, as i know he has a few problems with his links and bones since birth. Good job Kinda regards from the old world here in Austria 🙋🏻♂️🇦🇹
I had wondered about those, and also the electronically-controlled parking brakes found on some newer cars. It occurs to me that the design precludes its effective use as an emergency brake as well. One more reason to buy an older gently-used car instead of a new one.
I was pretty against electronic parking brakes. But after purchasing a car with one I am sold. No cables to gum up or adjust. You just have an actuator on the wheel brake assembly. In the past i've had a few brakes lines go and never used it as an emergency brake even then. I don't think your average consumer would even think to use it. Most people don't ever use it anyway and the cable systems won't work anyway.
@@OnusofStrife I use it anytime I'm not parked on an utterly level surface, and I nag the mechanic to check it's function and slack etc at every oil change in the past and now they just do it.
Depends on how the manufacturer designed them, irc some of the early Landrover ones where just a motor pulling on a cable. Not sure why the US (it seems) calls them an emergency brake, it's a parking brake and even an effective properly adjusted one doesn't do much at speed.
@@hannahranga Interesting. My 2022 Ford has actuators on the wheels. The combination of cable and motor sounds very reliable 😜. Not sure why we call them a emergency brake either. Probably because most people don't use them for parking, and automatics have been popular for decades at this point. Automatics have parking pawls which work just as well as far as the public is concerned.
@@hannahranga Parking brake is their primary intended use, but they can be used in an emergency (loss of service brakes) by downshifting to slow the vehicle and applying the parking brake. Some of us old farts were taught to do this, because mid-20th century hydraulic brake systems were not considered very reliable. They have changed a lot over the years.
I was looking at the dash thinking that there should be a red brake light. If I were the owner, I would get that fixed ASAP because it's almost 100% certain that the parking brake will be left on again without that reminder.
@Wes, i liked how you went the extra mile by tapping the hole. Most others would have done the bolt up and moved on. Hats off to yah bud! Looking forward to 🦄 p2
exactly. I thought the same thing seeing him chase the treads. most "mechanics" I know would have rammed that bolt home. I think wes is right though, I would have either tried to get a complete kit at the junkyard or a whole new unit.
I really admire your work ethic. Most independent shop would have told them to take it to the dealer. You don't seem afraid to tackle the most difficult projects.
👍👌👏 Well done. What an effort to get to the gear box seal! A really weird configuration. I've never seen anything like that in Germany. So it seems, that the American car manufacturer ordered something problematic like that in Germany. I don't think that it is German engineering at all. Best regards luck and health to all of you.
Same concept but it's way simper and easier to work on (at least the ones on LT230 vehicles). It's pretty much just bolted to rear of the T/C and has a big enough hole in the centre you can remove it completely without removing the output flange from the T/C. Iirc factory manual even says to remove it completely instead of disconnecting the cable if you've got to remove the transfer case.
Ex Defender owner here. Watched in rising horror: "Heck it's only like the handbrake on the Landy... what's all that complex stuff inside for?" I still don't know the answer! Incidentally there are aftermarket kits to convert landies to disk handbrakes, as they are less affected by water when offroading. Mine was a simple cast and machined drum, like a normal brake but smaller - roughly half the surface area of those Ford shoes. We tend to use handbrakesa lot more than in the USA (your proficiency in using it for maneuvering (hill starts, reversing and 3-point turns in the road) is part of the driving test), and obviously the handbrake is next your left knee*, so you should notice if you leave it on by mistake. That said, I did overheat mine once, and my wife did it also (she hated the Landy!). *right knee in North America, presumably!
For a second, I thought that deep sigh at the end WAS your final word! Which'd be your laid back style. It's a pleasure to watch your videos. (More greetings from the land down under.)
it's sometimes stupid builds like that why there are so many shady mechanics around because not everyone gon take the time to put it back together like you do and who will admit when something is difficult, I say kudos to you for your honesty and impeccable work ethics.
Theoretically would you ever have to replace the shoes since it's a parking brake? The only reason they would wear out is if you drove with it on right?
Or dash switch for parking break gets dirt in it and doesn't light up. What is that? Clutch, break? Must be that truck right in front of me. Oh man!! Oh!! So that was it!!
What a strange unit, it's basically a wheel-hub type braking setup with a bunch of added complications! Man, you take on some crazy jobs sometimes. What's even better is that you usually pull them off! (and aren't afraid to show when things go pear-shaped, as there's a lot to learn from those times)
That was the “Tiger Tank” version of a parking brake assembly. I’m gonna bet that when they designed this monstrosity that they never intended that it be worked on. Like ever. And realistically, as long as you don’t leave the parking brake on and drive to Texas and back... Of course, one burned out warning light on the dashboard is all it would take.
The intro to this video was epic. Should rename the channel for this one video to "Watch Wes Pound". Thanks for sharing Wes and always good watching your talents.
Wes, that was some old school mechanics work for sure. Wise beyond your years. The machinist in me was yelling, "cut the drum, cut the drum" LOL. Great job.
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Happy Father's Day Wes. Coffee and watching someone work hard, I feel like I got a promotion.
That's exactly what I'm doing right now!
Same!🤣
Not an easy fix. But you worked through it. Nice to have a lathe to turn down the drum. Good show.
You can't even give an up front price on a job like that. So what was the final bill? If you dont mind my asking. The reason I ask is that I just bought an almost identical dump truck. It had to be dragged up onto the rollback it would not roll free. The engine only had 62,000 miles on it. Started right up idle beautifully that's basically what I bought the truck for was the engine. Got the truck for $1,200 don't know if I want to fix it and keep it a dump truck. Or just pull the engine and trans like I intended. The truck had been sitting in the weeds for quite some time. It was part of an estate deal.
Hi Wes,
Greetings from the land down under! In my book, you are by far the best content on TH-cam and deserve many more subscribers (they're coming). The lengths you go to troubleshoot problems that most of us would scrap a car over is mind-blowing. Add to that the dry sense of humour. Just perfect!
Don't change a thing. You got the recipe right. Keep up the hard work, and thanks for teaching this old dog some new tricks. 👍
Love his delivery
He has a style of his own, so much unsaid, but implied. A pleasure to watch.
read my comment, ausie..s.a.
I Love Australia! You are an awesome man of integrity, MrSuzook82. I hope you won't hate me for owning a ZX-14. :-0 Dave Jones is awesome! (EEVBlog).
I try. Not best though.
Hi Wes. I took care of several tow trucks with this set up back when. Ford serviced this as an assembly, with no individual parts store available. They killed them about every 18 months! I visited a buddy at the UPS shop and they had a pile of them in the corner, too. Props for doing the rebuild. That's why your The King. Roll On!
Yes I remember that I had Fsuperduty trucks the brake assembly came in one piece. I don't remember the exact cost I think it was close to 5 bills. That was back in the early 2000s.
@@logicthought24 Back in the late 90s early 2000 Ford said the emergency brake unit was non serviceable they sold you a new one. Many tow truck operators ran Mico locks in Fsuperduty trucks.
@@logicthought24 Not when other said human has conspired to make sure it can't be put back together.
We are getting to the point where you can't fire the parts cannon, because there is no ammo.
Parts cannon ammo? I don’t think we’ve got enough parts available for a 410 gauge parts shotgun!
hello Wes , Carl from Texas here. I've been watching your channel a couple years now. I REALLY appreciate the family friendly content since I now have a grand daughter who I'm hyping up to help me builds her a go-kart , I was a Auto tech for many years & also a farm tractor& implement mechanic before that. I can totally relate to the ( uuuhhhh ) sigh you give at times, I laugh with you every TIME ! 😁👍 GOOD JOB !
When my dad was a teenager he took either the input or output shaft out of a transmission while overhauling it. It was tight, so he beat it out with a sledge. Then he realized it had been held in with a c-clip
Outch.
Is your dad Andrew Camarata?
Andrew does have his own way of doing things....lol
Ouch, I've done a similar thing and pushed a bearing off a shaft the wrong way and snapped the lip off the shaft.
Wes, you are nothing short of amazing. That emergency brake is about the WORST thing this 80-year-old has ever seen.
Kudos on conquering it!
Oh, you know it, Mike. They can get Frozen like a Lake in Switzerland! :-)
Bravo Wes another excellent video - no gimmicks, no showboating, no ego-boosting, no nonsense, no b-s….just a great example of a real mechanic who uses his experience and intelligence……and a selection of meaty hammers.
You're giving me flashbacks to my time working at a Ford dealership. Our techs were lazy and just replaced the whole thing. I think the whole assembly was like a thousand bucks twenty-five years ago. Sold so many. I worked in parts.
Flat rate prob paid like 1.2 to replace and 1.6 to rebuild/replace😉
Lot cheaper for customers to replace it with reman units. The bill would be way higher with all the additional labor to rebuild it, even if everything does go without other problems. By the time you have to add labor and parts to it that get damaged during removal and disassembly, it would make the customer cost way higher.
@@elmerfudpucker3204 if it's unobtainable I rebuild whatever it is, if it's available it's almost always cheaper an faster to R&R.
@@mph5896 That was my thought exactly. Flat rate was probably stupid low on rebuilding one.
I like you you took the time to remove that bolt and tap the hole instead of just leaving it. Really showd your hight quality of work
That clutch linkage repair kit is pretty handy. Every Ford F series of this vintage I've had had some sort of play in the clutch pedal.
That parking brake is just another example of how "Ford has a better idea".
Happy Father's day.
Thanks for sharing.
Nice work Wes.
IF it comes back leaking again, you'll want to replace that pressure vent assembly. That's a military vent used on all the military vehicles. They have a soft spring and a rubber flap inside. They love to either swell the rubber or just stick closed and cause pressure and leaking issues. They are super cheap and available but I normally just replace them with a real vent line.
One-third of the way through 90% of Wes's videos, I always have the same thought - Better him than me.
I would be cursing up a storm trying to find where the engineer that designed that lives.
Never seen someone rebuild one of those, always replaced the entire unit. Local dealerships and truck shops will not sell the individual repair parts, only the entire unit. Typical local failure was internal bearing explosions or broken case.
For any other wrench throwers looking at doing this job, getting an entire ZF with a newer P-brake on the back costs 1/3 the price from a pull yard than just the Pbrake assembly. And now you have a spare ZF for when one of your customers inevitably explodes theirs.
Don't know if you've bought a new microphone, but the sound of the distant birds in the first half of the video was super clear and wonderful!!
(I did watch the wrenching content as well...)
This is my type of entertainment!
For those without a lathe. If it was my truck, I would have ground out the brake shoe bracket. Just to get the diameter smaller. Sometimes just the paint or powder coat is enough. I’m not a mechanic, just like to work on my own stuff.
LOL! Just got finished with Steve Magnante showing us the P Brake on'54 De Soto Torqueflite - and here's another transmission-borne P Brake, 40 years later! 😁
... and there's the expected 'Rain of Transmission Fluid"! Always happens - seals always leak.
To all the "Why?"s there is one answer: it's a Ford.
Thanks for the great work! Happy Father's Day!
I'll bet that Steve Mags is, or would be, a fan of this channel!
@@DanEBoyd - I think you're right. He'd appreciate quality diagnosis and wrenching.
I have a hunch that what you encountered happened after the R.T.R. lawyers took the engineers out to a surf and turf 9 course dinner. What you accomplished should have never been possible! You are the Leonardo DaVinci of D.I.Y. repair engineering and I thank you profusely for sharing your every day experiences running your shop with us all!
You are an exceptional mechanical engineer Wes and *Thank You* for your videos. They are greatly appreciated. Stay sane Wes, stay sane. 👍
What engineer thought it was a good idea to take a simple parking brake assembly and make it NASA complicated? They could have mounted a disc rotor on the output housing with a mechanical caliper. Service it all in a matter of minutes and at a fraction of the cost. Thanks for making another interesting video and for including your dog in it. Pets are wonderful!
German engineering reputation is supposed to be better than this.
The fact that there is no warning light for the parking brake will probably have caused the issue with driving with the brake on.
I learned to just get a replacement brake unit on the first one I ever tried to work on. I had double the hours that it paid to replace it completely, just removing and disassembling the original one. I never made that mistake again lol. I have brazed and rebored those clutch rods many times, I wish I had known about that repair kit you used. That's a nice set up.
Wes, you have far more patience than any man should have. Having worked as a mechanic for a living, I know how frustrating these things are. Hat's off to you sir, you're top of the line in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing your video.
I really can't get over how clever the channel logo is; I really dig it, along with the effort you're putting into editing.
Great stuff, thankful as always Wes!
I know I watched this when it came out, but damnit I'm here again because TH-cam recommended it to me after all this time. Love watching your trials and tribulations with these... majestic.... pieces of old iron.
really appreciating the zen hammer intros wes
Wes is my spirit animal
Well, I hope it's not coming back for parking brake service any time soon since the warning light problem was not corrected. The guy driving is probably gonna forget again and trash it. That was a real pain to have to do all over again. Great content thanks for sharing. Have a happy father's day Wes and everyone else.
Hats off to Wes and anyone who can lie on his back in such a confined space. I always get real nauseous if I try that. Even oil changes have become a real chore these days.
Thank you, Wes! You have made an old man feel much better after watching you struggle with that stupid thing. My son has a '96 F-Super Duty with the same parking brake. I have it apart, found replacement parts but had the same issue with the drum being way too tight to put back on. I wasn't sure how to address it, but seeing you turn it down some, I have my answer. Thanks again!
Outsmarting the engineers usually comes with a time penalty. Exemplary work as always Wes.
ZF ... Zero Fuchs? 🤩😜 OMG I rebuilt / rewired a two speed 3 phase German motor with internal brake at the back of the rotor. It slid when engaged to lift off the rear cover. The rear cover threads onto the case. Dumbest smartest thing ever. Italians have an insult for this: "clever"
Great job getting through this! It helps me when I'm slogging through my 1986 CF7000's problems. 🥺
That parking brake job takes me back to my days as a fork truck mobile engineer for Clark Equipment. Their C500 truck had a small external Bendix parking brake fitted, worked fine for 12 months but then was useless. Access was awfull, had to drain the transmission and the drive flange wouldn’t clear the cross member so had to split the engine mounts and jack the engine a couple of inches. Work was usually undertaken in the owners yard, outside and in the rain... Forget the o ring on the drive shaft, all the oil would leak all over your nice new brake shoes and drum... Deep joy..
Ahhh,so that’s why the super duty had been sitting there for some time. Glad you were able to pull through yet again. Thanks for what you do!
Nowadays you're not supposed to fix anything they want you to get a new one which is usually obsolete 6 months after it's built and unobtainable. Recently had to fix something the part in US price was unbelievable with 2 month lead time. Found it it Australia fo 1/4 the price delivered and had it in 4 days. You are a grat mechanic and lot more patient than me. Great job
Crikey! We must live in parallel universes. Friend of mine who lives in country Victoria was fixing the old family SAAB. Turns out Rock Auto were cheaper than the local bloke... delivered from USA!
May I ask what part it was just out of interest?
@@youtitta suspension
Thanks for showing the difficulty of working underneath the dash. Personally I’d rather rebuild that emergency break than work under the dash to be honest. At least you don’t have to turn yourself into a pretzel to get the job done. Keep up the great video content. Looking forward to the next one!
I finally surrendered and just remove the seats from vehicles. Throw a couple movers blankets on the floor to cover the studs sticking up.
all the wind and breeze has taken a toll on the pup... luv the channel wes. thanks.
Wes, I was just watching Steve Magnante’s “Junkyard Crawl” and he was talking about a DeSoto that had a Powerflight automatic trans from 1954 with the same setup for a parking brake, what a coincidence, go figure! BTW, Nice work and HAPPY FATHER'S DAY!
This is a component designed to fight you, to the end, every step of the the way! You have much more patience than me Wes!
Thanks for rebuilding this instead of discarding the unit with a bunch of good parts and getting a full assembly. It's great to reduce material waste to be more sustainable and I think I see that in your choices and values.
Hopefully those who sell the assembly, hopefully they have a core charge and rebuild the units for similar reasons.
After years of grinding gears in my old 1990 IDI, I replaced the clutch pushrod with that same heim joint kit. But that was only part of the problem... These trucks used plastic bushings at the 2 pivot points that transfer movement around the brake pedal to the clutch master cyl. When the plastic wears out, the magnesium pedal hanger bracket is next to wear. That part was no longer available (different dash in '90 - you can still get the '92-'97) and my pivot holes were egg shaped. I took it to a machine shop and had them install Oilite bushings into the pedal bracket with what the machinist called "pro JB-Weld". It was probably just JB-Weld but it worked really well! Downside was, I had to tear the entire dash apart to get to that dang bracket. Bad, bad Ford engineers.
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no one could ever dream of. Naturally, PUP approved!!! 👍👍🐶🔧💯
if i lived near you you would have a lifelong customer,your a real mechanic
I've seen that clutch linkage repair using a heim joint once before. Beats the crap out
of Ford's BS design. Great job!
Thumbs up the second I heard 7.3 “Power Smoke” :). Happy Father’s Day!
Nice job Wes. That device should last the life of the truck but stuff happens. The reason we need excellent technicians like yourself who will accept the challenge and do the correct repairs.
Happy Father’s Day.
"Should last the lifetime" huh. Do you work for Ford?
My nephew works for Porsche....
He has nothing good to say about them...
Nothing !
Have a good one , you magnificent mechanical bastard. 👍🍺
Awesome video Wes! Looking Forward to the "Revenge of the Unicorn""!
I used to work for zf. I grew up around the company its pretty neat to see something from them. Occasionally
Keep up the good work wes! Love the videos and you always find a way to solve a unique problem that pops up in the process of working on the old, crusty, worn out vehicles that seem to pop up. I learn new things all the time watching your content, i appreciate it and strive to be half the mechanic you are one day
Came here from your most recent driveline parking brake video. I have to pull this unit off a E450 to bolt up a transfer case, so I appreciated the great video on the removal!
I think one of my favorite things about Sunday is looking foreward to seeing a video from u wes!! And u never disappoint, great stuff my friend
Something German that isn’t designed to come apart again? Welcome to my world Wes.
Your videos and the quality keep getting better and better. This video did not disappoint. Thanks buddy and hope you're enjoying the breath of cool weather we're being blessed with again. Talk about a strange spring/summer. Not complaining at all, pretty sure you aren't either.
Man versus machine....man won....whoopee!
Quality engineering work by Wes.
We live for Sunday’s to admire Wes armpits.
Always more than anticipated, but, at least your customer brought to the right shop with the right person to work on it. Happy Father’s Day young man. Thanks for the ride along.
Drive-line parking brakes have been around for a long time but I don't remember seeing one that complex before. I remain convinced that if one of today's college educated engineers were to redesign the wheel, it would be incredibly expensive and next to impossible to service. Good job Wes!
Indeed, driveline parking brakes seem like a solved problem at this point.
No one's stopping you from engineering one
I had no idea that rear park brake assembly had separate oil in it
Now I need to check mine!
Way to go, Wes!
I thought 'replacing the whole sub-assembly' as a norm came a little after this vintage of vehicle.
One that gets me is wheel bearings. Instead of $30 bearings, they just want to offer $300 hub assemblies these days.
From the ZF / German design perspective, it might be intended for the brake to last the life of the other parts (bearings etc.) because...'you can't wear it out unless you drive around with it set...and no one does that?'
probably.
My belgian shepherd is also 9years now and limps since a few weeks, as i know he has a few problems with his links and bones since birth.
Good job
Kinda regards from the old world here in Austria 🙋🏻♂️🇦🇹
Happy Father's Day Wes..... this looks like one of those times, it would be easier to jack up the radiator cap, and drive a new truck underneath LOL
Happy Father's day. Love the foreshadowing
Great video Wes. Ford and ZF…what could possibly go wrong?
One of my favorite things to do is to forget my parking brake is on. Great video Wes thumbs up.
I had wondered about those, and also the electronically-controlled parking brakes found on some newer cars. It occurs to me that the design precludes its effective use as an emergency brake as well. One more reason to buy an older gently-used car instead of a new one.
I was pretty against electronic parking brakes. But after purchasing a car with one I am sold. No cables to gum up or adjust. You just have an actuator on the wheel brake assembly. In the past i've had a few brakes lines go and never used it as an emergency brake even then. I don't think your average consumer would even think to use it. Most people don't ever use it anyway and the cable systems won't work anyway.
@@OnusofStrife I use it anytime I'm not parked on an utterly level surface, and I nag the mechanic to check it's function and slack etc at every oil change in the past and now they just do it.
Depends on how the manufacturer designed them, irc some of the early Landrover ones where just a motor pulling on a cable.
Not sure why the US (it seems) calls them an emergency brake, it's a parking brake and even an effective properly adjusted one doesn't do much at speed.
@@hannahranga Interesting.
My 2022 Ford has actuators on the wheels. The combination of cable and motor sounds very reliable 😜.
Not sure why we call them a emergency brake either. Probably because most people don't use them for parking, and automatics have been popular for decades at this point. Automatics have parking pawls which work just as well as far as the public is concerned.
@@hannahranga Parking brake is their primary intended use, but they can be used in an emergency (loss of service brakes) by downshifting to slow the vehicle and applying the parking brake. Some of us old farts were taught to do this, because mid-20th century hydraulic brake systems were not considered very reliable. They have changed a lot over the years.
Well, I guess the standard for Wes's channel is "If Wes is working on it, it ain't easy" or "If it is easy, you won't be seeing it here"!
I was looking at the dash thinking that there should be a red brake light. If I were the owner, I would get that fixed ASAP because it's almost 100% certain that the parking brake will be left on again without that reminder.
Great video Wes. Really enjoy your humor in the face of difficult circumstances.
Agreed. The moment he turned the camera on was the moment I'd have lost my rag and wheeled the thing into a river.
@Wes, i liked how you went the extra mile by tapping the hole. Most others would have done the bolt up and moved on. Hats off to yah bud!
Looking forward to 🦄 p2
exactly. I thought the same thing seeing him chase the treads. most "mechanics" I know would have rammed that bolt home. I think wes is right though, I would have either tried to get a complete kit at the junkyard or a whole new unit.
Yeah that bolt🤕. I prob would have been lazy and cut a groove in the bolt. 😆, then ran it home.
I really admire your work ethic. Most independent shop would have told them to take it to the dealer. You don't seem afraid to tackle the most difficult projects.
👍👍
You are Amazing, your perseverance and attention to detail will always inspire us to do more and trust the outcome. Happy Fathers Day
👍👌👏 Well done. What an effort to get to the gear box seal! A really weird configuration. I've never seen anything like that in Germany. So it seems, that the American car manufacturer ordered something problematic like that in Germany. I don't think that it is German engineering at all.
Best regards luck and health to all of you.
Geez Louise, what an ordeal that was. Enjoyed as usual.
Happy Father's day.
A lot of work went into this repair and a lot of editing to show it. Excellent stuff.
Is this the same parking brake as the Land Rovers?
Same concept but it's way simper and easier to work on (at least the ones on LT230 vehicles). It's pretty much just bolted to rear of the T/C and has a big enough hole in the centre you can remove it completely without removing the output flange from the T/C.
Iirc factory manual even says to remove it completely instead of disconnecting the cable if you've got to remove the transfer case.
Ex Defender owner here. Watched in rising horror: "Heck it's only like the handbrake on the Landy... what's all that complex stuff inside for?" I still don't know the answer!
Incidentally there are aftermarket kits to convert landies to disk handbrakes, as they are less affected by water when offroading. Mine was a simple cast and machined drum, like a normal brake but smaller - roughly half the surface area of those Ford shoes.
We tend to use handbrakesa lot more than in the USA (your proficiency in using it for maneuvering (hill starts, reversing and 3-point turns in the road) is part of the driving test), and obviously the handbrake is next your left knee*, so you should notice if you leave it on by mistake. That said, I did overheat mine once, and my wife did it also (she hated the Landy!).
*right knee in North America, presumably!
This was common on old grain trucks but they are so much simpler.
@@simon-d-m my current van has an electric handbrake and I cannot get used to it 😤
For a second, I thought that deep sigh at the end WAS your final word! Which'd be your laid back style. It's a pleasure to watch your videos. (More greetings from the land down under.)
The dust shield!! It’s stuck on the end of the tool while hammering in the seal
Can’t believe I noticed that.
it's sometimes stupid builds like that why there are so many shady mechanics around because not everyone gon take the time to put it back together like you do and who will admit when something is difficult, I say kudos to you for your honesty and impeccable work ethics.
Theoretically would you ever have to replace the shoes since it's a parking brake? The only reason they would wear out is if you drove with it on right?
My thoughts too
In the case of the LT230 ones they tend to fail when the rear output seal fails and covers the shoes with oil. But way easier a job.
Or dash switch for parking break gets dirt in it and doesn't light up. What is that? Clutch, break? Must be that truck right in front of me. Oh man!! Oh!! So that was it!!
What a strange unit, it's basically a wheel-hub type braking setup with a bunch of added complications!
Man, you take on some crazy jobs sometimes. What's even better is that you usually pull them off!
(and aren't afraid to show when things go pear-shaped, as there's a lot to learn from those times)
We interrupt all other regular scheduled Sunday videos for new watch wes work , (sorry mustie)
Exactly
I was just watching mustie1 with that fullman wagon.😁
I thought it was just me….
Keep mustie out of this channel. We live for Sunday’s to admire wes armpits
I should have a split screen watching Wes and mustie1 at same time 😄🤙👍
I love the calm opening montages now
That was the “Tiger Tank” version of a parking brake assembly. I’m gonna bet that when they designed this monstrosity that they never intended that it be worked on. Like ever. And realistically, as long as you don’t leave the parking brake on and drive to Texas and back...
Of course, one burned out warning light on the dashboard is all it would take.
Happy Father's day, Cheers to you Sir!
ZF transmissions are over engineered junk .
The old 7.3 power smoke & ZF trans combo, what a great combination 😂😂
What a colossally awful design. Hand it to the Germans, they know how to conjure up a shitshow.
Happy Fathers Day, appreciate you having us along
Dang. Two pretty nice older trucks in a row. First that old cummins, now this guy. Like that ford with the flatbed.
That's way more fun than anybody should have in one day
It is a pleasure to watch you work. Great skills!! Thanks for the video.
Had a lil humble pie with that job.
Happy Father’s Day Wes keep doing what you’re doing on the channel!
Happy Father's day Wes .🎉💯
You are a patient man. Parts people on the phone or internet can be frustrating, to say the least.
The intro to this video was epic. Should rename the channel for this one video to "Watch Wes Pound". Thanks for sharing Wes and always good watching your talents.
I appreciate that you’re like me never back down from a job even if it takes you a week!!!!!💯✊🙏🌿😂👍🏻🍀
I totally enjoy watching you work. Thank you for sharing.
Wes, that was some old school mechanics work for sure. Wise beyond your years. The machinist in me was yelling, "cut the drum, cut the drum" LOL. Great job.