Hey.. thanks for video. My son in law has a 2018 F-150 with 10 speed. He experienced a problem… couldn’t get over 50-60 mph Pulled over… there was fluid all over the bottom of tranny. Got towed to AAMCO .. left it there. They are telling us they are not finding a problem. We asked where the fluid came from… they said there is a sort of relief valve to expel excess fluid or pressure? Is this true?
thank you for the info. i really appreciate you teliing it like it is. if its not a problem its not a problem leave it alone. i would like to see a full rebuild if you could do it eventually. might get you a camera tripod.
I have a 2018 with the cdf drum problem . I've been waiting for over a month for the dealer to get parts. I just hope the guy doing it is as thorough as you when he works on it.
@@801Pizzle Good luck I was at that milage too but they couldn't get me in for 3 months so I extended my warranty while the original was still good. If it runs out, you can't extend it. Go to the dealer as soon as possible
Does the CDF drum bushing issue will happen no matter what? My 21 F150 on 50K Kilometers is driving pretty smooth, it is very smooth when first couple miles before coming to normal operation temperature, and it feels like sometimes clunky after comes to operation temperature, and one obvious issue is when light foot on braking to stop, sometimes it has big cluck when down shit from 5 to 3 or 4 to 3. But if I use multi stepping on brake paddle, I can totally avoid that. Just like you need to know your truck and what to do in when, it is a bit annoying. I am concerned about the drum bushing issue when I am out of warranty. Thanks you for your videos!
Thanks for watching! It isn't a guarantee it'll happen, but it is common enough to plan for eventually (worst case scenario). But with a new CDF, trash can and valve body gaskets, its a pretty solid reliable transmission! It'll just clunk once in a while
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles Also, most of time, when start from stop, during gear changing up from 1 to 5, I can hear a high pitch noise between gear changing, hard to describe what that noise sounds like, but I can not figure out whether it is from the pump or from the solenoids. This noise was develop obvious after 20K, it happens only between gear up shit, it is not a big deal, just annoying. Any idea what that can be?
Same here man. My 2020 ranger does it too. I had to take matters into my own hands since my dealer kept telling me that it's normal for 3rd and 4th gear to lose power.. so I put Fords tune to change the mapping, changed the fluid to amsoil, I put a new aluminum more capacity tranny pan on , and I will say the 3rd to 4th gear power loss toned down a tremendous amount. The ONLY time I have an issue is like you, when it's at full operating temp. When before it was at cold start... It's weird. @bigbencarsandcycles another TH-cam ford tech told me my power loss problem doesn't sound like the cdf drum , mine sounds like a solenoid sticking, does that sound true? Just wanted your take. Thanks sir
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles I have a 2023 f150 with 4,400 miles on it, and it has a horrible 1-3 shift when cold. Once you start it when cold and take off it has a bad delay staying in 1st then all of a sudden it will jerk into 3rd. After that it shifts pretty decent. Do you have any ideas what causes that cold 1-3 hard delayed shift?
Hello I have 19 limited and I get hard shirts only when stuck in traffic at low gears. can I just change fluid and install larger PPE trans pan, or will have to replace the valve body? thanks in advance.
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles Even with only 43k miles on the truck? just want to understand my option. the truck was purchased for a certified ford dealership with a 3 months 3k miles blue certified warranty. do you think that will cover it? thanks in advance.
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles My truck still has 2000 miles left on warranty if they check it and say its just relearn process which judging by what I have researched and you mentioned seem like a valve body! down shifts from 5-1 clunk upshift slight shudder and 2nd gear never engages. upshift 1,3 and on no second and down shift 3,1 no 2nd down shift is that a sign? thanks.
I have a 2023 10r80 which has a harsh downshift 4-3. They have performed the full tsb on the transmission updated software, accelerated break in and valve body cleaning. It still does it for me. They say next step is overhaul....curious what that means. Cdf drum is updated on my transmission from factory to my knowledge. Would they simply replace the valve body at this point likely?
With the updated cdf from the factory, the next step for me would be a new valve body. After that, teardown and inspect the e clutch, f clutch and container cylinder
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles ok I was curious. When I brought it in last they stated it would get a new valve body with a updated superseded number to it but upon receiving it back the receipt just says removal cleaning and reinstall with new plates. No improvement at all unfortunately.
I have the exact same on my ´23 F150 XL, harsh 4-3 shift, but only after cold starts. Asked my dealer and they told me they’re booked 6 months out for transmissions. The guy even told me to my face, and I quote: “those transmissions are shit”! 🤦♂️
Hello sir! I have a 2020 xlt 116k miles I’m unaware if trans fluid has ever been changed. Would you recommend changing it at this mileage or leave it? Add additive? Thank you sir
Hi, it'll be fine to service it. I wouldn't use an additive unless theres torque converter shudder, then I like to use lubegard shudderfix amzn.to/3BHPLMT
Wondering if anyone can respond with your input: 1. My 2018 Expedition when going into reverse from park will sometimes be a very hard/jolting gear change. Anyone else experience this? 2. I feel like the vehicle rocks back and forth more in park than other vehicles... like when on a very slight incline after you put it into park if you don't keep your foot in the brake, it moves alot. thanks!
@@henryhenry4377 yes, they've fixed the major issues. You'll just likely end up with some firm shifts eventually. Which won't damage it or leave you stranded
Just got home from ford, ive had the re-learn,valve body done and there gonna rebuild it now. They said the parts will be the updated cdf drum..its a 2019 f150 xlt. Im wondering if people have had problems after having the updated cdf drum done at the dealer.. any response would be great.Jeremy.
Hey boss, just came across your channel and your videos regarding the 10 speed. I have a 2018 f150 5.0 10 speed, I have a question, so my transmission does hard shifts/delay into 4th and 5th gear, and then once it’s gets into 10th gear, it will slip out of into into 1st and then back to 10th. I did get a ranch light on and a code P07F7-00. Have you ever dealt with that issue before? Thank you
Any tips for monitoring the 10 speed heath with a scangauge 2. Transmission gear ratio, temp, converter speed ratio, torque into torque converter, torque converter line pressure all are options. Thanks! Temp is the basic one, my F150 king ranch has the gauge in the dash but nice to see an actual temperature.
On a mustang, the CDF drums extremely rarely have issues. Its mainly a problem on the trucks. You'd still get firm shifts after a while, but nothing that'll strand you. The manual has it's share off issues, mainly with the clutch friction material falling off. Though, its a more simple design. The manual would likely be more reliable, especially if you don't race it all the time or supercharge it. If you get one with a twin disc clutch, those are expensive clutches.
Hey there I just saw your video,my 10r80 has recently started harsh engagement into D after warm.Any ideas? Been shifting rough when cold too.129,000kms,new valve body under warranty at 85000kms
I bought a 2018 F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost and there is only 34000 miles and there is a hard clunk and it jolts only in 5th gear sometimes 6th only when the transmission gets up to temp ( over 120 F) never when it’s cold. Feels like it comes from the front end. What is your opinion on what could be wrong?
@masonriker9020 I wouldn't worry about it, there's probably a sticking valve in the valve body. It's bound to happen eventually. Even new valve bodies can be quirky. I believe there's aftermarket upgraded valve bodies that may be a good choice
@@BigBensCarsAndCyclesthanks i’ll look into it. I took it into Ford and there is a PCM and a TCM updates for it. Now it shifts just fine besides a casual hard shift in forth every now and then maybe I’ll look into swapping out the transmission oil like you suggested. Thank you for the information.
@bigbenscarsandcycles Have a 10r80 just purchased. 2021 expedition. 61k miles. I’m having 3 shudders in multiple gears mainly 6-10. Unable to recreate on demand but frequent problem every few miles of regular driving. Feels like going over rumble strips. It is exactly the same every time 3 distinct shudders. I’m thinking valve body but wanted to see your opinion?
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles thank you I found your video, I’ve used the same anti shudder with success on Chevy traverse.. is the only way to fill the 10r80 on the passenger side dipstick under the truck? And also that dipstick has 1-6 level labels on it. What do those indicate if my transmission was as low as the “6”
Hey Ben, what do you think about replacing the factory pan, with an aluminum pan, that has cooling fins and an increased ATF capacity? My 2018 F150 2.7 has 113,000 miles, and the transmission is the original trans and it still performs flawlessly.
@danishali3652 they've been redesigning, the major issues should be fixed, but you may still get firm shifts eventually from the valve body. Nothing too bad
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles perfect. Thanks a ton. Planning to buy expedition limited stealth edition. Just a bit nervous now given history of transmission issues 👀
Any thoughts on a shudder when under load? I have this weird issue where if im going about 65 on the highway, as soon as i go up hill it has a transmission shudder which feels almost like a tire out of balance. Im still under warranty and took it in and ford claimed it was "normal". 2020 f150
It may be a torque converter clutch shudder, or an engine misfire. When it happens, if you apply full throttle and it gets worse, its likely a misfire. If it goes away under full throttle, its probably torque converter clutch shudder.
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles yeah, I replaced all the spark plugs thinking that it might be a misfire but it didn't help. First dealer I took it to claimed it needed a software update. Not really sure what they actually did but it helped a little however I still notice it. Generally once I get under or passed a certain speed it will go away
Mine is on its second converter for this issue. The first replacement went 50k and developed the shudder and is now leaking fluid inside the bellhousing. Now it's getting rebuilt and CDF drum fix. This transmission is a dangerous train wreck and I hope Ford reimburses anyone who had to fix it under 100k miles on their owndime....it isn't cheap....
@AE-hl5ey yes. I went to do an pil change and the underside of the truck was covered in trans fluid. Cleaned it all off, checked the vent up top. It wasn't the vent and it's all coming from the little gap in the bottom of bellhousing. It had developed a pump whine, but now that its out of fluid, the whine went away....It's coming apart now for a rebuild. Ford really did us dirty with this transmission combined with their 1950s warranty
Thank u for the info i just had my valve body cleaned under warrenty cuz i was losing all acceleration pedal at times on highway but after this i won't worry about it if it won't damage anything
Hey, I would be concerned about that if you're losing power. Your CDF bushing may be shifting and that'll be fords next step if your issues continues. Random firm shifts aren't a big deal though
It only does it on highway drives and only last for 5 seconds at the longest but i got until August while its under original manufacturer warrenty so il take it out of town again and try it out
i know you responded about mustangs already but would you avoid buying a used one with 60k+? im just a bit spooked, but people say its sometimes very reliable
The 10R80 in the mustang has much fewer major problems - practically none other than fairly firm shifts, which aren't a big issue, just live with it. The 10R60 does have occasional issues in the 4cyl mustang. Firm shifts on these are from the valve body. A new OEM valve body will likely have its own quirky shifts.
Hey, you're welcome! They're mainly a problem on the F150s and Expeditions. Actually, I don't think I've done one in a ranger yet. It is possible though.
I swapped my trans fluid on my 2022 F150 at 25k miles with BG stuff. No problems really shifting before just in city stop and go traffic it doesnt really like but over all it shifts nice specially upshifting. I’m gonna keep flushing every 25-30k miles to avoid issues
I go to my trusted shop. What I mean by flushing is shop uses machine to extract fluid while at the same time introducing new fluid in. I have this done instead of drain and fill
@jeffyoung6231 I can't tell you for sure unfortunately. It's either a valve body issue, or cdf issue. If you're still rocking the original cdf drum and the trucks pre 2023 I'd think it's cdf related
I'm wanting to buy a 1/2 ton which is super-reliable long term and doesn't rust out. Yes, I'd like a Tundra, but the frames rust out, they're gas hogs and the old design with the V8 are selling for stupid money right now. Too many issues with the new Tundra to consider right now. So I'm looking at F-150 with the NA 3.3, which is supposed to be bulletproof. Is the older six-speed transmission in these trucks reliable, and are the post-August 2022 10-speeds now a good bet reliability wise? Should I try to get an older 6-speed instead?
My 2019 f150 transmission randomly it felt like its in neutral for about 1 to 2 seconds when i start off on a slight downhill. Pulling out of my driveway or some elevated parking lots etc.. soon after it started doing it on a level road, 2nd to 3rd and 4th to 5th. I got on the highway and at about 70 mph noticed the digital gear indicator in the cluster go from 10 to 4 and back and forth to misc gears. It didnt actually downshift but it freaked me out and i took it straight to a shop. I was told at 70k it needs to be rebuilt or replaced 😢 I can't imagine buying another ford anything after this. 3500 for a low milage used or rebuilt or 5k for a new trans. Why ford doesn't recognize this and do the right thing by at least making a rebuild or replacement at an affordable price so they don't lose customer loyalty is crazy because there's a lot of people in the same situation. At least I can sell it for what I bought it for back in 19 to replace the funds I'm using to fix it. Dodge has some really nice trucks out and I'll probably jump in one of those once it's fixed and sold.
My 2021 Ranger would have some hard shifts on slight downhill on my drive to work and sometimes coming to a stop. At times it felt like someone rearended me. I hated that transmission.
@@Whippdf150 the temp still drops. The 10 speeds are finicky pieces of work. I’ve reset mine and it’s been flawless since even the harsh downshifts are gone. They’re meant for city driving more economical on the highway. It’ll throw a code if something is wrong. Ford goes through a process with this trans your local dealer will go through that until ford tells you it needs a new tranny. Depending on your year yours might even need an update and it’ll fix that. Check your fluid level? All small steps you can follow beforehand
If I roll into a 3-5 shift (casual 30-40mph), mine will rev out the truck will the shift happens. I’d say like 1000rpm more over a second duration. Kind of like a flare but no slip, I actually build speed. Doesn’t happen if I’m in tow, sport, or manual. Ever see that, what do you think? Temps are always under 150 because I’m New England and do short drives often.
@anthonys3906 hi, that's most likely a sticking valve in the valve body. Almost all 10r80s will shift like that eventually. I wouldn't worry about it unless it's annoying you, or if you still have some warranty. A new valve body may have its own quirks. You could investigate aftermarket valve bodies
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles thanks for the info!! Annoying a bit but I’ll live. 135k going strong besides that and the infamous yet non problematic, low idle tick lol
I just purchased a used 2018 ford f150 with ten speed from Carvana , the transmission acted just like you described. I drove it for a day and then called Carvana to let the know they had me take it in to be checked. I took it to ford dealership and they said this was the issue. Now Carvana wants their inspector to go to the dealership and to see if that’s the right diagnosis. So I’m waiting now to see if Carvana will pay for the repair..
Hey man is there anyone to fix the whine? i have a video on my channel its so annoying. they say the gears are not messing probably and im a millwright and that dose not sound right? anyone i can fix it myself? im going to get an exhaust or delete the resonator or straight pipe it lol its a 2023 3.5 Eco boost. Also new sub here thanks!:)
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I'm surprised you didn't include the computer programming "adaptive driver learning issue", many videos of this causing unnecessary breakage on transmissions with different drivers, when computer is reprogrammed to the factory preset (turning off adaptive learning) of what Ford's data said transmission should generally shift at, many issues of hard shifting were resolved! That is before damage had occurred.
Hi, the tsb for firm shifts does mention re entering the transmission strategy. I've learned it really doesn't help except for ecoboost mustangs for whatever reason
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles I bought a 2021 Expedition 5 months ago with 47K miles, now it has 50K, and it occasionally jerks, but it does it much worse in speed control when going up and down grades on 2-lane roads at 55 to 60mph, it tries to backoff too much then re-accelerate and the computer in the transmission in my estimation doesn't handshake very well with cruise speed control. Is that a valid statement, and can you say how often the oil in transmission should be changed out? Thanks...
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Hey.. thanks for video. My son in law has a 2018 F-150 with 10 speed. He experienced a problem… couldn’t get over 50-60 mph
Pulled over… there was fluid all over the bottom of tranny.
Got towed to AAMCO .. left it there.
They are telling us they are not finding a problem.
We asked where the fluid came from… they said there is a sort of relief valve to expel excess fluid or pressure? Is this true?
@GodsFinalJubilee had same thing happen to mine.Suspect it was overfill at some point.Happened when towing.All good since
thank you for the info. i really appreciate you teliing it like it is. if its not a problem its not a problem leave it alone. i would like to see a full rebuild if you could do it eventually. might get you a camera tripod.
@@stevenakn1 I have a 90% teardown video. Glad the video helped!
I have a 2018 with the cdf drum problem . I've been waiting for over a month for the dealer to get parts. I just hope the guy doing it is as thorough as you when he works on it.
How much did in end up costing?
@@801Pizzle It was covered by my extended warranty.
@stevenl34 mine is a 2019 with 58k miles. Hopefully they will cover mine as well.
@@801Pizzle Good luck I was at that milage too but they couldn't get me in for 3 months so I extended my warranty while the original was still good. If it runs out, you can't extend it. Go to the dealer as soon as possible
What you think about royal purple transmission oil??
@@Choferiando I like royal purple. I'd they've got ulv rated fluid go for it
Does the CDF drum bushing issue will happen no matter what?
My 21 F150 on 50K Kilometers is driving pretty smooth, it is very smooth when first couple miles before coming to normal operation temperature, and it feels like sometimes clunky after comes to operation temperature, and one obvious issue is when light foot on braking to stop, sometimes it has big cluck when down shit from 5 to 3 or 4 to 3. But if I use multi stepping on brake paddle, I can totally avoid that. Just like you need to know your truck and what to do in when, it is a bit annoying.
I am concerned about the drum bushing issue when I am out of warranty.
Thanks you for your videos!
Thanks for watching! It isn't a guarantee it'll happen, but it is common enough to plan for eventually (worst case scenario). But with a new CDF, trash can and valve body gaskets, its a pretty solid reliable transmission! It'll just clunk once in a while
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles Also, most of time, when start from stop, during gear changing up from 1 to 5, I can hear a high pitch noise between gear changing, hard to describe what that noise sounds like, but I can not figure out whether it is from the pump or from the solenoids. This noise was develop obvious after 20K, it happens only between gear up shit, it is not a big deal, just annoying. Any idea what that can be?
Same here man. My 2020 ranger does it too. I had to take matters into my own hands since my dealer kept telling me that it's normal for 3rd and 4th gear to lose power.. so I put Fords tune to change the mapping, changed the fluid to amsoil, I put a new aluminum more capacity tranny pan on , and I will say the 3rd to 4th gear power loss toned down a tremendous amount. The ONLY time I have an issue is like you, when it's at full operating temp. When before it was at cold start... It's weird.
@bigbencarsandcycles another TH-cam ford tech told me my power loss problem doesn't sound like the cdf drum , mine sounds like a solenoid sticking, does that sound true? Just wanted your take. Thanks sir
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles I have a 2023 f150 with 4,400 miles on it, and it has a horrible 1-3 shift when cold. Once you start it when cold and take off it has a bad delay staying in 1st then all of a sudden it will jerk into 3rd. After that it shifts pretty decent. Do you have any ideas what causes that cold 1-3 hard delayed shift?
Greetings do you know what causes a hard down shift on a 2018 3.5/10 spd?
Hello I have 19 limited and I get hard shirts only when stuck in traffic at low gears. can I just change fluid and install larger PPE trans pan, or will have to replace the valve body? thanks in advance.
@jamyhanna6181 hey, I would install an aftermarket upgraded valve body and that pan too 👍
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles Even with only 43k miles on the truck? just want to understand my option. the truck was purchased for a certified ford dealership with a 3 months 3k miles blue certified warranty. do you think that will cover it? thanks in advance.
I have only put 600 miles since purchase, should I call the dealership and ask them to inspect the truck? thanks
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles My truck still has 2000 miles left on warranty if they check it and say its just relearn process which judging by what I have researched and you mentioned seem like a valve body! down shifts from 5-1 clunk upshift slight shudder and 2nd gear never engages. upshift 1,3 and on no second and down shift 3,1 no 2nd down shift is that a sign? thanks.
I have a 2023 10r80 which has a harsh downshift 4-3. They have performed the full tsb on the transmission updated software, accelerated break in and valve body cleaning. It still does it for me. They say next step is overhaul....curious what that means. Cdf drum is updated on my transmission from factory to my knowledge. Would they simply replace the valve body at this point likely?
With the updated cdf from the factory, the next step for me would be a new valve body. After that, teardown and inspect the e clutch, f clutch and container cylinder
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles ok I was curious. When I brought it in last they stated it would get a new valve body with a updated superseded number to it but upon receiving it back the receipt just says removal cleaning and reinstall with new plates. No improvement at all unfortunately.
I have the exact same on my ´23 F150 XL, harsh 4-3 shift, but only after cold starts. Asked my dealer and they told me they’re booked 6 months out for transmissions. The guy even told me to my face, and I quote: “those transmissions are shit”! 🤦♂️
Hello sir!
I have a 2020 xlt 116k miles I’m unaware if trans fluid has ever been changed. Would you recommend changing it at this mileage or leave it? Add additive? Thank you sir
Hi, it'll be fine to service it. I wouldn't use an additive unless theres torque converter shudder, then I like to use lubegard shudderfix
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Wondering if anyone can respond with your input:
1. My 2018 Expedition when going into reverse from park will sometimes be a very hard/jolting gear change. Anyone else experience this?
2. I feel like the vehicle rocks back and forth more in park than other vehicles... like when on a very slight incline after you put it into park if you don't keep your foot in the brake, it moves alot.
thanks!
@gregcavanaugh6259 very very common. I wouldn't worry. It's probably a slightly burred valve for a clutch that releases from reverse
Hi just wondering if buy new 2024 fl 50 with a 10 speed .Are they a good tranmission.Ty.
@@henryhenry4377 yes, they've fixed the major issues. You'll just likely end up with some firm shifts eventually. Which won't damage it or leave you stranded
@BigBensCarsAndCycles Thankyou so much
Just got home from ford, ive had the re-learn,valve body done and there gonna rebuild it now. They said the parts will be the updated cdf drum..its a 2019 f150 xlt. Im wondering if people have had problems after having the updated cdf drum done at the dealer.. any response would be great.Jeremy.
Hey, yeah but it'll just be firm shifts after a while. And they pretty much all do that, and I wouldn't worry about it unless its really bad.
Hey boss, just came across your channel and your videos regarding the 10 speed. I have a 2018 f150 5.0 10 speed, I have a question, so my transmission does hard shifts/delay into 4th and 5th gear, and then once it’s gets into 10th gear, it will slip out of into into 1st and then back to 10th. I did get a ranch light on and a code P07F7-00. Have you ever dealt with that issue before? Thank you
Hi, P07F7 is fairly clearcut at being a CDF drum bushing failure
@ thank you for the help, happy new year!
Any tips for monitoring the 10 speed heath with a scangauge 2. Transmission gear ratio, temp, converter speed ratio, torque into torque converter, torque converter line pressure all are options. Thanks! Temp is the basic one, my F150 king ranch has the gauge in the dash but nice to see an actual temperature.
Cool. I would monitor temp, converter slip, line pressure. if it has a 4th spot you might want to use that for mpg
These used to keep me busy when warranty was paying.
Cold starts I get wrench and it starts in 4th gear when I put in gear any thoughts?
@miked9474 what code is it setting
In terms of mustangs, would it just be more reliable to go with their 6 speed then? Or any big issues with them also?
On a mustang, the CDF drums extremely rarely have issues. Its mainly a problem on the trucks. You'd still get firm shifts after a while, but nothing that'll strand you. The manual has it's share off issues, mainly with the clutch friction material falling off. Though, its a more simple design. The manual would likely be more reliable, especially if you don't race it all the time or supercharge it. If you get one with a twin disc clutch, those are expensive clutches.
Hey there I just saw your video,my 10r80 has recently started harsh engagement into D after warm.Any ideas? Been shifting rough when cold too.129,000kms,new valve body under warranty at 85000kms
Hi, it might be time for a CDF drum. I'd let the dealer look at it if its still in warranty of any kind
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles unfortunately my warranty is out,and so is my extended Ford warranty:(
@BigBensCarsAndCycles do you think it's worthwhile on my part to ask my dealer to perform the latest updated tsb for harsh shifting and engagement?
Are you also seeing this in Super Duty 10 speed?
@Tailwind1 yes, less frequently though
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles Thank you Big Ben, I've read most of the problems were 2022 and down, wondering if they addressed the issue's 2023 and forward?
I bought a 2018 F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost and there is only 34000 miles and there is a hard clunk and it jolts only in 5th gear sometimes 6th only when the transmission gets up to temp ( over 120 F) never when it’s cold. Feels like it comes from the front end. What is your opinion on what could be wrong?
@masonriker9020 I wouldn't worry about it, there's probably a sticking valve in the valve body. It's bound to happen eventually. Even new valve bodies can be quirky. I believe there's aftermarket upgraded valve bodies that may be a good choice
@@BigBensCarsAndCyclesthanks i’ll look into it. I took it into Ford and there is a PCM and a TCM updates for it. Now it shifts just fine besides a casual hard shift in forth every now and then maybe I’ll look into swapping out the transmission oil like you suggested. Thank you for the information.
@bigbenscarsandcycles
Have a 10r80 just purchased. 2021 expedition. 61k miles. I’m having 3 shudders in multiple gears mainly 6-10. Unable to recreate on demand but frequent problem every few miles of regular driving. Feels like going over rumble strips. It is exactly the same every time 3 distinct shudders. I’m thinking valve body but wanted to see your opinion?
@robertmeffen9492 hi,that may be torque converter shudder. I've got a video showing how to get rid of that DIY
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles thank you I found your video, I’ve used the same anti shudder with success on Chevy traverse.. is the only way to fill the 10r80 on the passenger side dipstick under the truck? And also that dipstick has 1-6 level labels on it. What do those indicate if my transmission was as low as the “6”
Hey Ben, what do you think about replacing the factory pan, with an aluminum pan, that has cooling fins and an increased ATF capacity?
My 2018 F150 2.7 has 113,000 miles, and the transmission is the original trans and it still performs flawlessly.
I would definitely do that! They look outstanding and have a drain plug. Heres one I like on amazon amzn.to/3yxfkPa
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles PPE make great pans.
Great Video. Will these issues persist in Ford expedition 2024?
@danishali3652 they've been redesigning, the major issues should be fixed, but you may still get firm shifts eventually from the valve body. Nothing too bad
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles perfect. Thanks a ton. Planning to buy expedition limited stealth edition. Just a bit nervous now given history of transmission issues 👀
Any thoughts on a shudder when under load? I have this weird issue where if im going about 65 on the highway, as soon as i go up hill it has a transmission shudder which feels almost like a tire out of balance. Im still under warranty and took it in and ford claimed it was "normal". 2020 f150
It may be a torque converter clutch shudder, or an engine misfire. When it happens, if you apply full throttle and it gets worse, its likely a misfire. If it goes away under full throttle, its probably torque converter clutch shudder.
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles yeah, I replaced all the spark plugs thinking that it might be a misfire but it didn't help. First dealer I took it to claimed it needed a software update. Not really sure what they actually did but it helped a little however I still notice it. Generally once I get under or passed a certain speed it will go away
Mine is on its second converter for this issue. The first replacement went 50k and developed the shudder and is now leaking fluid inside the bellhousing. Now it's getting rebuilt and CDF drum fix. This transmission is a dangerous train wreck and I hope Ford reimburses anyone who had to fix it under 100k miles on their owndime....it isn't cheap....
@@05milmachine90 how did you know it was leaking fluid inside the bell housing? I assume it started leaking out on the ground?
@AE-hl5ey yes. I went to do an pil change and the underside of the truck was covered in trans fluid. Cleaned it all off, checked the vent up top. It wasn't the vent and it's all coming from the little gap in the bottom of bellhousing. It had developed a pump whine, but now that its out of fluid, the whine went away....It's coming apart now for a rebuild. Ford really did us dirty with this transmission combined with their 1950s warranty
Thanks for the info and video!!
Can you help? When I get on the throttle, I hear a errrr sound. Like spinning tires on wet pavement. Does that sound like the transmission?
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Thank u for the info i just had my valve body cleaned under warrenty cuz i was losing all acceleration pedal at times on highway but after this i won't worry about it if it won't damage anything
Hey, I would be concerned about that if you're losing power. Your CDF bushing may be shifting and that'll be fords next step if your issues continues. Random firm shifts aren't a big deal though
It only does it on highway drives and only last for 5 seconds at the longest but i got until August while its under original manufacturer warrenty so il take it out of town again and try it out
i know you responded about mustangs already but would you avoid buying a used one with 60k+? im just a bit spooked, but people say its sometimes very reliable
The 10R80 in the mustang has much fewer major problems - practically none other than fairly firm shifts, which aren't a big issue, just live with it. The 10R60 does have occasional issues in the 4cyl mustang. Firm shifts on these are from the valve body. A new OEM valve body will likely have its own quirky shifts.
@BigBensCarsAndCycles Thank you friend
CDF drum, are those an issue on the Ranger? Appreciate you making these videos!
Hey, you're welcome! They're mainly a problem on the F150s and Expeditions. Actually, I don't think I've done one in a ranger yet. It is possible though.
I swapped my trans fluid on my 2022 F150 at 25k miles with BG stuff. No problems really shifting before just in city stop and go traffic it doesnt really like but over all it shifts nice specially upshifting. I’m gonna keep flushing every 25-30k miles to avoid issues
Hey 2023. Do you Own a Shop or have someone that has a Shop or a Lift? And what do you mean by "FLUSHING"?
I go to my trusted shop. What I mean by flushing is shop uses machine to extract fluid while at the same time introducing new fluid in. I have this done instead of drain and fill
Hey Big Ben, Is the 10R80's Transmission PUMP Gear Driven? Are there "ANY" Chains in the 10R80 anywhere???
It's driven from a gear that's driven directly off another gear, which slides on the converter. No chains anywhere
Thanks. Just watched another Video where a guy was servicing a 10R80 and said the PUMP Was Gear Driven.😂🤷♂
Going uphill getting ready to turn into my drive the trans feels like a sledge hammer is being used to down shift?
@jeffyoung6231 I can't tell you for sure unfortunately. It's either a valve body issue, or cdf issue. If you're still rocking the original cdf drum and the trucks pre 2023 I'd think it's cdf related
I'm wanting to buy a 1/2 ton which is super-reliable long term and doesn't rust out. Yes, I'd like a Tundra, but the frames rust out, they're gas hogs and the old design with the V8 are selling for stupid money right now. Too many issues with the new Tundra to consider right now.
So I'm looking at F-150 with the NA 3.3, which is supposed to be bulletproof. Is the older six-speed transmission in these trucks reliable, and are the post-August 2022 10-speeds now a good bet reliability wise? Should I try to get an older 6-speed instead?
Yes a 3.3 with a 6 speed is a very, very reliable truck. I would buy one if I were in the market for a newer truck.
My 2019 f150 transmission randomly it felt like its in neutral for about 1 to 2 seconds when i start off on a slight downhill. Pulling out of my driveway or some elevated parking lots etc.. soon after it started doing it on a level road, 2nd to 3rd and 4th to 5th. I got on the highway and at about 70 mph noticed the digital gear indicator in the cluster go from 10 to 4 and back and forth to misc gears. It didnt actually downshift but it freaked me out and i took it straight to a shop. I was told at 70k it needs to be rebuilt or replaced 😢 I can't imagine buying another ford anything after this. 3500 for a low milage used or rebuilt or 5k for a new trans. Why ford doesn't recognize this and do the right thing by at least making a rebuild or replacement at an affordable price so they don't lose customer loyalty is crazy because there's a lot of people in the same situation. At least I can sell it for what I bought it for back in 19 to replace the funds I'm using to fix it. Dodge has some really nice trucks out and I'll probably jump in one of those once it's fixed and sold.
My f150 trans makes a noise until it warms up?
@@jeffyoung6231 I'd have to hear it
22 Explorer with the 10R60 has almost all the same issues. Dealer replaced trans at 20k. Still has the same problems…
My 2021 Ranger would have some hard shifts on slight downhill on my drive to work and sometimes coming to a stop. At times it felt like someone rearended me. I hated that transmission.
I had my cdf drum swapped. I’m still getting a weird 4-5 shift.
Wdym by weird 4-5 shift?
@@Aajb2. It’s like it will rev up between 4-5 then jump into 5th when it’s cold. I’m at 56k miles so it’s going back soon
@@Whippdf150 hey if you think something is wrong take it in. Usually when it’s cold it’s gonna shift weird how high do the rpms go?
@@Aajb2 I live in south Texas. It’s always 90. Degrees out. I always let the truck warm up before I go anywhere. Something isn’t right.
@@Whippdf150 the temp still drops. The 10 speeds are finicky pieces of work. I’ve reset mine and it’s been flawless since even the harsh downshifts are gone. They’re meant for city driving more economical on the highway. It’ll throw a code if something is wrong. Ford goes through a process with this trans your local dealer will go through that until ford tells you it needs a new tranny. Depending on your year yours might even need an update and it’ll fix that. Check your fluid level? All small steps you can follow beforehand
If I roll into a 3-5 shift (casual 30-40mph), mine will rev out the truck will the shift happens. I’d say like 1000rpm more over a second duration. Kind of like a flare but no slip, I actually build speed. Doesn’t happen if I’m in tow, sport, or manual. Ever see that, what do you think? Temps are always under 150 because I’m New England and do short drives often.
@anthonys3906 hi, that's most likely a sticking valve in the valve body. Almost all 10r80s will shift like that eventually. I wouldn't worry about it unless it's annoying you, or if you still have some warranty. A new valve body may have its own quirks. You could investigate aftermarket valve bodies
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles thanks for the info!! Annoying a bit but I’ll live. 135k going strong besides that and the infamous yet non problematic, low idle tick lol
I just purchased a used 2018 ford f150 with ten speed from Carvana , the transmission acted just like you described.
I drove it for a day and then called Carvana to let the know they had me take it in to be checked. I took it to ford dealership and they said this was the issue. Now Carvana wants their inspector to go to the dealership and to see if that’s the right diagnosis.
So I’m waiting now to see if Carvana will pay for the repair..
Hey man is there anyone to fix the whine? i have a video on my channel its so annoying. they say the gears are not messing probably and im a millwright and that dose not sound right? anyone i can fix it myself? im going to get an exhaust or delete the resonator or straight pipe it lol its a 2023 3.5 Eco boost. Also new sub here thanks!:)
Thank you!❤❤❤❤
@@RedneckAsianHomestead 👍
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I'm surprised you didn't include the computer programming "adaptive driver learning issue", many videos of this causing unnecessary breakage on transmissions with different drivers, when computer is reprogrammed to the factory preset (turning off adaptive learning) of what Ford's data said transmission should generally shift at, many issues of hard shifting were resolved! That is before damage had occurred.
Hi, the tsb for firm shifts does mention re entering the transmission strategy. I've learned it really doesn't help except for ecoboost mustangs for whatever reason
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles I bought a 2021 Expedition 5 months ago with 47K miles, now it has 50K, and it occasionally jerks, but it does it much worse in speed control when going up and down grades on 2-lane roads at 55 to 60mph, it tries to backoff too much then re-accelerate and the computer in the transmission in my estimation doesn't handshake very well with cruise speed control. Is that a valid statement, and can you say how often the oil in transmission should be changed out? Thanks...
Got a 2016 f150 V8. Put into park, the shifter indicates park but it is still in drive and won't come out of park now. Shifter is on tree
@@jimperry6454 check to see if your shifter cable popped off the transmission
@BigBensCarsAndCycles thank you I will give it a look
“Kermit the frog here.”
An independent company has a valve body kit to correct these problems while GM and Ford are still scratching their heads.
It's planned obsolescence.
Going with 2k mustang interior ftw 😆
We had just come back from lunch and I was like "Let me make a video real quick" lol
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles keep them coming bro!
The 10 speed graveyard is a mile high, keep your wallet
Pretty sure the Amsoil isn't ULV rated.
It definitely is!
It isn't.
Amsoil just came out with a new ULV fluid though. Seems pretty close to the numbers of Mercon ULV.
@@jwuonog must be brand new and I see it now on their website. I'll try it next time, I already bought the Ford fluid for this change.
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