I like how big brain everything in gen 3 is. It's hard to get into a metagame that lived that long but there are so many neat and clever builds it's fun to discover
You can get pretty creative honestly. My hariyama knock off "stall team" and my double spikes team with glalie have been fun as hell. I still suck but i win enough to be worth it.
Magneton can also use Rain Dance with Salac Berry if it gets stuck in vs Dugtrio. You can endure to get the speed boost then hit that rain dance then the next mon to come in will have a fun time. Niche I know but I liked that interaction
I love the idea that, if Gen III remakes were to happen now, Kyogre's signature power to flood the world would be matched by one of the most common low-level pests in the game.
I'm half asleep and have my phone set to the side. Instead of "the damp rock" I heard "the damn rock" and was very confused. I'm glad I paused and double checked, that would have been insane.
have watched plenty of ur gen 3 OU videos but I think this is the one that's gonna actually get me to give the format a shot, thank u for the great content as always mr cool
If Kingdra was designed with slightly more detail it could have been a beast in Gens 2-3. Its one of those Pokémon that's SO close to being good it actually works sometimes. Its solid in Emerald's Battle Fromtier as well.
I deeply believe it is now time for the jimothy gaming channel to use gorebyss, not only is it epic, but it can tank the scald for our dear magcargo. (It must be noted that it will crumble to the mug's electric stab, however)
Jimothy cool, I plead of you that we get the future paradox form of machamp, "Many Hands", to EV train magcargo and hopefully then with the assistance of our good friend torkoal magcargo can survive this deadly assault
Your comedic timing and delivery is highly underrated. I catch myself laughing multiple times throughout your vids. Beloved and altruistic Magcargo got me this time around lol
I didn't know about how powerful was Ludicolo in rain until I got swept by one in Gen V meta. I decided using a Rain Dance Swift Swim Ludicolo for my Battle Frontier challenges and it was so good! After that I always pack a Ludicolo for my rain teams.
getting off my early morning job to see a new Jimothy video, so consistently. has quickly become my favorite part of the day. playing showdown along with the vids... its just bliss. iykyk. thank you Mr Jimothy Cool, very cool.
Pelipar and torkal are really interesting Pokémon since it feels like gamefreak picked them specially for drizzle and draught hidden abilitys both are from gen three after all
Now I'm curious what Sun users are out there. I suppose you could run it on Exeggutor with its solid movepool and high special attack, as well as Fire Types who can both hit harder and neutralize their water weakness.
Sun isnt as good since you cant utilize significant speed and power boosts on the same mons like rain can. Grass users get the speed while fire users get the damage. Spamming stab solarbeams is great but its the same power as before, and you cant outpace anything with the fire types that benefit from the damage. Entei and Typhlosion also didnt have solarbeam in gen 3 either so that took another utility off the table. All rain users are water type swift swimmers that benefit from the stab bonus plus rain bonus to water, sun teams are significantly weaker because they cant do this.
Im pretty bad at traditional gen 3 OU teams, but i had a lot of success with a misdreavus rain team. It helps trap and force out any set up sweepers, and can set up rain dance on the last turn of perish trap to enter into a guaranteed set of turns of rain for ludicolo/kingdra.
@skeetermania3202 yeah it's called playing the game. If you need to sack tar to beat Kingdra than sure. And to the guy saying but what about lead tar. . What of lead tar lol. Its a common lead mu if your rain team can't handle that it's bad lol
Water/dragon is a phenomenal type combination. Before gen 6 it was only weak to dragon types as the water type neutralizes your weakness to ice and dragon means your weakness to electric and grass are also nullified. You also have a x4 resist to fire and take neutral to everything else. Fast forward to gen six and beyond and while fairy types are common having only two weaknesses is still incredible and is why I like kingdra. I really hope we get to see more water dragon types in the future one day.
You know If you want some actual decisions in your rain teams gen 8 is also an option. The more balance oriented teams with goodra as the hydration mon play very differently relying on chipping opponents down and not being as explosive in exchange for a much safer matchup vs one of the two most terrifying mons to face with the more offensively oriented rain teams volcanion who often have to just accept they are losing a mon or 2 to it and a well played volcanion can dismantle a rain team on its own where as goodra can just come in on a rain boosted steam eruption heal off the thirds of damage it takes to volcanion’s best option which 4 hit ko after lefties and just start hurling univested thunders that 2 hit ko in return. It’s also nice having a dedicated special wall to flip turn to and it lets your ferrothorn ease off the special defense investment if you want. Dragontail is also a nice boon to make use of the hazards ferrothorn can set hydration rest is a classic can’t go wrong with that and you have plenty of other good options at your disposal.
i like the idea of rain and special offense in gen 3 but in my experience if your plan is to tear through an opponent the far more consistent way to do that is physical offense. self sufficient dragon dancers like ttar, mence and gyara speak for themselves, choice band mons are very powerful if you like to make aggressive predicts, and the main obstacle is skarmory which to state the obvious gets easily trapped by magneton. you can use agility metagross, a bunch of explosion mons, or even go a bit off the rails with baton pass shenanigans, either sd celebi, agility zap, or my personal favourite being taunt, spore, baton pass, dragon dance smeargle, which just needs one entry point against a slower mon and it can quite easily get a few dds to pass to something terrifying. the main issue with special offence and rain is that they very heavily rely on dugtrio, and even if you trap blissey or ttar you ideally want to trap both which you aren't likely to do. and if your opponent happens to use snorlax or regice instead of blissey then not only can dug not trap them but they can do big damage to your useless special threats. mag being sm more consistent than dug makes such a huge difference, it gives physical teams a clearly defined and straightforward way to win whereas special teams have to carefully trap two different mons, get a rain dance or sunny day off after trapping ttar, possibly get a baton pass off, then even if all that works you'll either miss a hydro pump or do 99% with surf to lose the game at the end 20% of the time lol. but if you like special offense and it works for you then fair enough you're good at the game
If you are going to use Omastar, should you have a nature that boosts defense to tank ground and fighting moves better? Even with high defense, these moves still take up a good chunk of Omastar's health(5:41).
2:47 “So many useful resistances” *literally resists nothing that just water type doesn’t* Funny even though you were alluding to being neutral v grass & electric
I've recently gotten into Gen 3 OU, and this was exactly the video I needed. I've always wanted to build a rain team, so this video is a great help. Thanks!
I was actually in the middle of building a gen 3 OU rain team when I found this video! Very helpful video, I found it to be extremely informative. Have you considered using Kabutops in a rain team? It has access to rapid spin which is pretty cool, but its type combo is rough... very poor defensive typing. I am trying to find a way to use Kabutops in a team right now. It is such a cool Pokemon design, I want to use it! >:D
Playing Kaizo Emerald i have to admit Rain is true terror. But shows also what fire types in the previous gens were lacking, no Fire Type has the equivalent of Swift Swim, or Rain Dish, Sunny Day splits the benefits into two types Grass/Fire while Water types with Rain on field have their moves doubled in power and also can utilise Rain related abilities. And Water types most of them have access to Ice moves and with an average very good SpA per pokemon can counter Grass. Fire types have no access to Electric moves and so defensively Water can accept mostly neutral type hits while Fire is weak also to Ground/Rock . Plus if you happen to have a pokemon like Starmie, has access to recover while no fire pokemon has access to that move. Kyogre owned that Gen big time over Groudon and Rayquaza even Mewtwo i might say.
Ok if toxic spikes where in gen 3 I can see flying and levitate mons gaing even more value and immunity lax and nature cure mons get the same boost Mons like venu would get buffed assuming the remove said tspikes due to poison typing. This could be something that might make Hera and champ guts sets scaryer depending on team comp
Yeah here’s the thing. I want to be a member but I don’t want to be beside a rando pokemon. I want to be beside dragonite. What must I donate to make this happen?
Outro song by Zame - th-cam.com/video/1o8DKqSDk0I/w-d-xo.html
Jim's Good Mugs - jimothycool.com/
Jim can you do a video on if Baddy Bad was in Gen 3 OU, thanks.
I prefer this outro
Why change the Outro? The other one sounded pretty cool. This new one is a bit generic
@@WUHtrain The guy who did the last song, Viper, was accused of some heinous crimes.
7:59 so mister jimothy can actually say: medicham
I like how big brain everything in gen 3 is.
It's hard to get into a metagame that lived that long but there are so many neat and clever builds it's fun to discover
It's similar to melee kinda
You can get pretty creative honestly. My hariyama knock off "stall team" and my double spikes team with glalie have been fun as hell. I still suck but i win enough to be worth it.
Gen 3 OU is the best
Magneton can also use Rain Dance with Salac Berry if it gets stuck in vs Dugtrio. You can endure to get the speed boost then hit that rain dance then the next mon to come in will have a fun time. Niche I know but I liked that interaction
I love the idea that, if Gen III remakes were to happen now, Kyogre's signature power to flood the world would be matched by one of the most common low-level pests in the game.
If?
tbf Kyogre got a "mega" with a much more powerful version of Drizzle for exactly that reason, and that was 10 years ago
And you will make a 6 hour long video on that remake ?
@@dse763”11 hours analysis” wow…
do not be mean to peliper
7:58 never thought I'd see the day Jimmy Cool would pronounce medicham correctly
Had to drop everything, this is insane. (I really love using Kingdra in rain)
I'm half asleep and have my phone set to the side. Instead of "the damp rock" I heard "the damn rock" and was very confused. I'm glad I paused and double checked, that would have been insane.
“Come rain, come shine, your posterior is mine”
-Kingdra, most likely
1:04 Magcargo must be protected, folks
I always forget iron mugulis could learn scald (likely a reference to hot drinks) and switch my ground type on it to try and block volt switch
When a Magcargo fails ti save the day, Quacsire comes with his power of water drinking
have watched plenty of ur gen 3 OU videos but I think this is the one that's gonna actually get me to give the format a shot, thank u for the great content as always mr cool
The gorebyss section was cool! Had no idea but i really like that type of option select on sets
If Kingdra was designed with slightly more detail it could have been a beast in Gens 2-3. Its one of those Pokémon that's SO close to being good it actually works sometimes. Its solid in Emerald's Battle Fromtier as well.
I deeply believe it is now time for the jimothy gaming channel to use gorebyss, not only is it epic, but it can tank the scald for our dear magcargo.
(It must be noted that it will crumble to the mug's electric stab, however)
Lets get in storm drain gastrodon for it!
@@gerwaltspodnovigradu5508 insane strategy
SUPER EXCITED FOR THIS ONE! AWESOME JIM, YOUR THE MAN!
Jimothy cool, I plead of you that we get the future paradox form of machamp, "Many Hands", to EV train magcargo and hopefully then with the assistance of our good friend torkoal magcargo can survive this deadly assault
"Morally altruistic Pokemon, Magcargo"
Your comedic timing and delivery is highly underrated. I catch myself laughing multiple times throughout your vids. Beloved and altruistic Magcargo got me this time around lol
I didn't know about how powerful was Ludicolo in rain until I got swept by one in Gen V meta. I decided using a Rain Dance Swift Swim Ludicolo for my Battle Frontier challenges and it was so good! After that I always pack a Ludicolo for my rain teams.
Rain is historically the most powerful weather effect in the pokemon games
Real
When you think of a rain team, Gen 5 OU might come to mind.
See you in 6 generations when sun hopefully stays on top and overthrows rains history.
getting off my early morning job to see a new Jimothy video, so consistently. has quickly become my favorite part of the day. playing showdown along with the vids... its just bliss. iykyk. thank you Mr Jimothy Cool, very cool.
Pelipar and torkal are really interesting Pokémon since it feels like gamefreak picked them specially for drizzle and draught hidden abilitys both are from gen three after all
if you'd believe it, I have run choice band kabutops just clicking rock slide in the rain and man oh man it smacks hard
I remember getting completely wrecked by that one rain team on mt battle (Pokémon colosseum) multiple times
Now I'm curious what Sun users are out there. I suppose you could run it on Exeggutor with its solid movepool and high special attack, as well as Fire Types who can both hit harder and neutralize their water weakness.
Sun isnt as good since you cant utilize significant speed and power boosts on the same mons like rain can. Grass users get the speed while fire users get the damage. Spamming stab solarbeams is great but its the same power as before, and you cant outpace anything with the fire types that benefit from the damage. Entei and Typhlosion also didnt have solarbeam in gen 3 either so that took another utility off the table. All rain users are water type swift swimmers that benefit from the stab bonus plus rain bonus to water, sun teams are significantly weaker because they cant do this.
@@Typh3621*entei has solar beam in gen 3
Rain is the Baby's Day Out of weather: the best
I really looked forward to this video. Rain is insane.
My biggest association with rain teams is with Ubers Kyogre teams (which are fun).
Yessss I've been trying to make rain work since I started playing this format a few months ago when I found this channel!
I love Omastar. It just hits insanely hard w/ it's water STAB
Im pretty bad at traditional gen 3 OU teams, but i had a lot of success with a misdreavus rain team. It helps trap and force out any set up sweepers, and can set up rain dance on the last turn of perish trap to enter into a guaranteed set of turns of rain for ludicolo/kingdra.
I think kingdra being the lead is not a bad idea and counters Tyranitar’s sand stream by just setting up rain immediately.
The issue isn't clearing sandstorm immediately, the issue is getting rid of Tyranitar so that sand stays off the table permanently.
@@MrCactuar13tbf I ain't switching Tar into kingdra.
@@rainbowgg___yeah but some people play lead TTar
But then Ttar can just switch back in again and make that all for naught.
@skeetermania3202 yeah it's called playing the game. If you need to sack tar to beat Kingdra than sure.
And to the guy saying but what about lead tar. . What of lead tar lol. Its a common lead mu if your rain team can't handle that it's bad lol
Kingdra in g3 ou has given me insane trauma
Kabutops erasure
Water/dragon is a phenomenal type combination.
Before gen 6 it was only weak to dragon types as the water type neutralizes your weakness to ice and dragon means your weakness to electric and grass are also nullified.
You also have a x4 resist to fire and take neutral to everything else.
Fast forward to gen six and beyond and while fairy types are common having only two weaknesses is still incredible and is why I like kingdra.
I really hope we get to see more water dragon types in the future one day.
This is crazy timing, I made my first gen 3 ou rain team yesterday
I like Rain Dish + Leech Seed (+Leftovers) Ludicolo.
Due to TTAR’s dominance, gen 3 OU rain teams also function partially as “sand clear teams”
magcargo is universally beloved. this is true.
I figured out why I was playing against so much rain this morning...
You know If you want some actual decisions in your rain teams gen 8 is also an option. The more balance oriented teams with goodra as the hydration mon play very differently relying on chipping opponents down and not being as explosive in exchange for a much safer matchup vs one of the two most terrifying mons to face with the more offensively oriented rain teams volcanion who often have to just accept they are losing a mon or 2 to it and a well played volcanion can dismantle a rain team on its own where as goodra can just come in on a rain boosted steam eruption heal off the thirds of damage it takes to volcanion’s best option which 4 hit ko after lefties and just start hurling univested thunders that 2 hit ko in return. It’s also nice having a dedicated special wall to flip turn to and it lets your ferrothorn ease off the special defense investment if you want. Dragontail is also a nice boon to make use of the hazards ferrothorn can set hydration rest is a classic can’t go wrong with that and you have plenty of other good options at your disposal.
When it rains it pouuurs There's no use in pretending like we've done befooore🎶
We can’t let iron mugulis get away with this, hopefully the past paradox Pokémon, fucking snail, can come and rescue it’s descendent magcargo.
we need more gen3 doubles! >:(
please? :)
i like the idea of rain and special offense in gen 3 but in my experience if your plan is to tear through an opponent the far more consistent way to do that is physical offense. self sufficient dragon dancers like ttar, mence and gyara speak for themselves, choice band mons are very powerful if you like to make aggressive predicts, and the main obstacle is skarmory which to state the obvious gets easily trapped by magneton. you can use agility metagross, a bunch of explosion mons, or even go a bit off the rails with baton pass shenanigans, either sd celebi, agility zap, or my personal favourite being taunt, spore, baton pass, dragon dance smeargle, which just needs one entry point against a slower mon and it can quite easily get a few dds to pass to something terrifying. the main issue with special offence and rain is that they very heavily rely on dugtrio, and even if you trap blissey or ttar you ideally want to trap both which you aren't likely to do. and if your opponent happens to use snorlax or regice instead of blissey then not only can dug not trap them but they can do big damage to your useless special threats. mag being sm more consistent than dug makes such a huge difference, it gives physical teams a clearly defined and straightforward way to win whereas special teams have to carefully trap two different mons, get a rain dance or sunny day off after trapping ttar, possibly get a baton pass off, then even if all that works you'll either miss a hydro pump or do 99% with surf to lose the game at the end 20% of the time lol. but if you like special offense and it works for you then fair enough you're good at the game
If you are going to use Omastar, should you have a nature that boosts defense to tank ground and fighting moves better? Even with high defense, these moves still take up a good chunk of Omastar's health(5:41).
i like to run expert belt modest Ludicolo in monotype
I tried going on the Ladder with a Typhosion/Exeggutor core Sun team and did really well
Would love to see some rain team laddering on the Jimothy Gaming channel!
Damn rain dance on kingdra is damn near a shift gear
2:47 “So many useful resistances”
*literally resists nothing that just water type doesn’t*
Funny even though you were alluding to being neutral v grass & electric
I think the double resist against both water and fire is useful, too.
I've recently gotten into Gen 3 OU, and this was exactly the video I needed. I've always wanted to build a rain team, so this video is a great help. Thanks!
I'd love to see a vid about frostbite. I was pretty disappointed when they didnt port that over. It was definitely a good change. Freeze is the worst.
I love ludicolo. Even on non-rain teams. Getting leech is just that good
I was actually in the middle of building a gen 3 OU rain team when I found this video! Very helpful video, I found it to be extremely informative. Have you considered using Kabutops in a rain team? It has access to rapid spin which is pretty cool, but its type combo is rough... very poor defensive typing. I am trying to find a way to use Kabutops in a team right now. It is such a cool Pokemon design, I want to use it! >:D
sadlysius also has a very in depth smogon post on rain
Bro kingdra always messes me up. Its all good tho as long as you explode your metagross on it from full im good
All fun and games until sunny day Porygon2
I wanted Manicotti, I compromised. I ate grilled cheese off the radiator instead
Shoutouts to MagcarJoe for being morally altruistic. 🙏🏼 This is truly insane.
i like sweeping with swift swim huntail, i put rain dance on claydol and magneton with thunder
Id love to see that toxic spikes video sometime
Playing Kaizo Emerald i have to admit Rain is true terror. But shows also what fire types in the previous gens were lacking, no Fire Type has the equivalent of Swift Swim, or Rain Dish, Sunny Day splits the benefits into two types Grass/Fire while Water types with Rain on field have their moves doubled in power and also can utilise Rain related abilities. And Water types most of them have access to Ice moves and with an average very good SpA per pokemon can counter Grass. Fire types have no access to Electric moves and so defensively Water can accept mostly neutral type hits while Fire is weak also to Ground/Rock . Plus if you happen to have a pokemon like Starmie, has access to recover while no fire pokemon has access to that move. Kyogre owned that Gen big time over Groudon and Rayquaza even Mewtwo i might say.
Wait tar’s ability sets permanent sand but rain dance is only five turns? That’s really weird
can you do sun teams and hail teams in gen 3 too
Jimothy clearly hasn’t met swagcargo if he thinks the Pokémon is altruistic
ADV OU is the Future
What do you think of Kabutops in rain?
Macarjoe would love this
Mystic Water Kingdra 2hko'ing Snorlax after it comes in on spikes and eats my now 144 BP 1.5 Boosted Hydro Pump will never not be fun
Also plus 1 Thunder Magnet Raikou really 1 shots some fun stuff
How does a Pokemon with stats like that get RU?
Does Iron Mugulis' movepool suck that much?
Ok if toxic spikes where in gen 3 I can see flying and levitate mons gaing even more value and immunity lax and nature cure mons get the same boost
Mons like venu would get buffed assuming the remove said tspikes due to poison typing.
This could be something that might make Hera and champ guts sets scaryer depending on team comp
Thought Zapdos would be one of the better ones on a rain team, though i don't know that much about gen 3.
Iron Mugulis destroyed poor Magcarjoe.
You know what to do now? A video on Sun teams and why Hail is useless.
Why is the rock damp…
magikarp the scariest rain abuser
Rain is historically the most powerful weather fact in pokemon games..
When you think of a rain team, Generation 5 OU may come to mind.
Yeah here’s the thing. I want to be a member but I don’t want to be beside a rando pokemon. I want to be beside dragonite. What must I donate to make this happen?
No wonder why permanent weather is way better imo! LOL
Rains dumb op
Nice vid
I love Kingdra
Iron Mugulis
Really wish Ludicolo got Drizzle
Rain!
There needs to be a new Hidden Power Ground rap single to replace the old one. Get BKC on the mic or something.
8:13 here I am, having a nice morning, only for it to be ruined by the sight of Gen 7 ou
As a Rain Abuser i agree ( i wish i was in Gen 5 OU
She like the way that i RRRRR
Rain is historically the weather effect in the Pokémon games.
Why did you pronounce medicham weird
Rain Funny
This is an agency classic 😎
Wait wrong channel 🫣
rain is historically the most powerful weather effect in the pokemon games
When you think of a rain team generation 5 OU might come to mind
politoed gained the ability "Drizzle" in gen 5, which creates permanent rain on switch-in
And rain teams are some of the most common structures you see in high-tier play
You may also think of the Pelipper rain teams that have existed since gen 7.
Even though Drizzle no longer sets permanent rain on the field from Gen 6 onwards