>Hariyama is a low usage Pokémon >Future paradox iron hands exists >Iron hands is good >Brings attention back to hariyama >People find good in hariyama from iron hands >Hariyama gets better usage >Hariyama becomes it’s own past paradox
I'll always remember my first playthrough of Platinum as a kid, I found Hariyama for the first time and thought he looked super strong. I nicknamed him "Sumo Man" and expected him to be incredibly powerful. To my disappointment he didn't really do anything. He was slow and his moves sucked. But this was because I had no idea what I was doing as a kid. After discovering competitive pokemon I am so happy to know how to use him appropriately now. He's one of may favorite Pokémon because he was one of the first pokemon that made me interested in competitive- because even as an 11 year old I was thinking "this thing can't possibly be bad, he looks so strong, maybe I'm doing something wrong?" Then I went down the rabbit hole of learning EV/IV's abilities, held items, physical/special split, etc. lol
I first got him in Emerald. He was often too slow to attack first in Battle Frontier but God have mercy on any soul that is weak to Fighting or Rock...
Hariyama set itself apart from the competition in its debut game with that massive 144 base HP stat and access to the excellent defensive ability Thick Fat-which provides a Fire and Ice resistance.
Gen 3 is so much fun, ur tournament has inspired me to try out so many archetypes. Higher elo games have taught me so much about scouting for traps, coming from a mostly team preview background (started comp singles bw1). Way more accessible than gen 2, but slower than gen 9. Still filled with hacks given crit rate/dmg + para spam. I like how balanced the meta game is overall though, nothing feels unbeatable. My favorite play style so far is physical offense, but a bulky Hariyama wish support team with spikes /sand rampant is satisfying to see chip accumulate as opposed to one shoting everything.
Hariyama is such a well-designed Pokémon. I've got nothing else to add, really. I already had a soft spot for it and thought it was a bit underrated in the past, but hearing an explanation of how perfectly it fits in the metagame of the generation it was introduced in makes me appreciate it even more. But then again, I always had a soft spot for slow, tanky, but hard-hitting Pokémon, so I'm aware I have kind of a bias. 😂
Also as a kid when I played diamond for the first time I caught a wurmple from a honey tree and evolved it into beautifly. Which I then replaced my chimchar with for some reason
Always was great! Despite its bulk being strange, it could always live one hit and thanks to its high base attack, it could seriously hurt literally anything. Overall, great Pokemon and my favorite fighting type. Can't believe it's just UUBL.
I was thinking "why use HP Ghost instead of Knock Off?". Instantly remember Knock Off had 20 Power and was special. Even under those detrimental conditions is impressive running it and be viable.
Everytime i see your videos, since i've never played any ADV format, i always wonder why there are so many pokemon in UUBL. It seems like it could be its standalone tier (love your videos)
I know they balance the games around VGC rather than singles, but I am astounded at Knock Off's modern power level. Removing a Pokémon's item is already unbelievably valuable, surely? I can't imagine how it would need 130 power on top of that. In the words of Copernicus, "this is insane."
That was something I practiced in Gen 6 Monotype with Dragon back in the day. Tank Garchomp + AV Goodra, both with the Dragon Tail, did some nice softening to reach the important damage thresholds
Hariyama is a Pokemon I really overlooked when I first played through Gen 3, but nearly every gen I have found something new to like about it, and I was really happy to play it in early VGC (reg A) as a support 'mon. Sadly it fell off as the format got power crept, so I'm always happy to see it thriving in earlier generations.
I’ve been using Hariyama on my TSS Gen 3 team. It’s so cool, and is genuinely fun to use a good defensive fighting type! Knock Off really helps wear down mons like Suicune, and helps put mons like Skarmory on a timer since it no longer has recovery. Aerodactyl also hates losing Choice Band.
If I remember correctly, Guts did not ignore the attack reduction of Burn in Gen 3, causing the attack boost of Guts to be canceled out. This was changed in Gen 4, I believe.
Hariyama is at another peak because of iron hands. You may be weak to ground now, but you no longer weak to flying with pawmots shared typing with one powerful paradox Pokémon
Wait so how often do ADV tier shifts take place? Monthly, or just whenever it's deemed necessary? And moving Hariyama from UUBL to OU would have an effect in name only, right? Is the point just to accurately reflect its perceived viability?
Out of curiosity, would it be worth it for Hariyama to have Substitute? It would add more fuel to the mind game fire and give Hariyama status protection which would be good for Thick Fat sets.
All the years of mockery must have affected Funny Guy deeply. I just hope he gets the help he needs before he gets taken advantage of by the dastardly Iron Mugulis
I transferred over my Hariyama from Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness all the way to Pokemon Scarlet and started using it online in doubles just for the trick room teams that are everywhere. It's not as good as Iron Hands but it's still decent
i've been using this guy since Sword and Shield cuz he's got takeout and wide guard, using him next to toxtricity in NU to spam boom burst and hit steel types who walk Tox
I hear Funny Guy struggles with entry hazards + priority. He might try scarf tera water with trick to handle those threats but I hear the “wet bandit” strategy isn’t very good
Why don't they do earlier gen tier ladders based on usage statistics? How people think this would make things different from the current viability system?
How does move priority and speed work in? Gen 3ou I've been playing it with a friend and despite my Pokemon outspeedimg his, random moves seem to get priority Like meotoero mash and earthquake
i definitely agree that hariyama should be OU. It has much more versatility than the other fighting types, having 2 good abilities and multiple different moveslots, making it unpredictable and awkward to switch into. being able to always do something against common fighting checks as opposed to a breloom spore or any other fighting type gimmick make it the most consistent fighter out there. it has a surprising amount of switchin opportunities vs tyranitar, blissey, and snorlax (albeit more shaky here), which is more valuable in a gen 3 environment where you want to dish out progress multiple times in a battle. i hope hariyama rises soon because it definitely deserves it, I would personally rank it above joleton, cloyster, and gyarados at the moment.
question from somewhat of an outsider, is there any functional difference between UUBL and OU? Aside from theoretically being able to return to UU should it be unbanned
Gen 3 introduced great fighting types and fighting type moves. Gen 2 had a severe balance issue where Normal types were overpowered, because the Fighting type was horrible before Gen 3. basically, Gen 2 Normal was Gen 1 Psychic. And Gen 2 Snorlax was Gen 1 Mewtwo of its generation. Gen 2 Snorlax is so overcentralizing it requires at least 3 dedicated team mates to deal with. Skarmory, Snorlax itself, and a strong attacker which can hit it hard. All 3 have to be tailor made just to deal with Snorlax or you auto lose. But Gen 2 Snorlax is fair and balanced in OU. Gen 2 OU is more balanced with it than without, even though it is the worst case of overcentralization in competitive Pokemon history. Even Gen 1 Mewtwo could be beaten with a Gengar using Hypnosis and Night Shade. That's one teammate, not three. Gen 1 Mewtwo is less overcentralizing than Gen 2 Snorlax is in OU Gen 2 Snorlax is Uber
i won't play gen 2 ou because there is no fun to be had. i have no teambuilding options whatsoever because everything fucking revolves around snorlax like a black hole. this is the unhealthiest metagame i have ever seen balanced hackmons with imposter isn't even as bad as gen 2 snorlax if you ban snorlax it will just get replaced by ursaring as snorlax lite, the metagame won't fucking crumble without this black hole of a crutch bending the fabric of reality around it with its overpoweredness Gen 2 Snorlax is actually worse than Gen 1 mewtwo, AND gen 8 zacian. both have more available counterplay that is less overcentralizing even when allowed in fucking OU. gen 2 snorlax is the most overpowered legitimate pokemon of all time in its respective meta
gen 2 snorlax could have been manageable, if taunt and better fighting moves like focus punch existed in gen 2. if focus punch was in gen 2 i would not complain about it at all. the problem is that it is a perfect pokemon in gen 2 where power creep hasn't balanced it out yet. sorry for this tangent about gen 2 snorlax, it only came up because i was thinking that if hariyama existed in gen 2, snorlax would actually be OU and not anything goes material, but kids on showdown use it as a crutch so they voted to keep it in OU. i wish i could manipulate votes to keep zacian in OU but i'm not that kind of person, i just play the monster fisticuffs game both gen 2 snorlax and imposter in balanced hackmons have the same problem: they are clearly overpowered if you use common sense, but they are also easy win buttons, aka crutches, so the people using them vote to keep them in the format, regardless of whether they are actually too strong for the format. votes are being manipulated to keep these easy win buttons legal in those formats, despite the fact that they warp and distort the metagame around them they are so overpowered. Imposter should be banned from Balanced Hackmons, with Transform being allowed in its place since it takes a turn to set up. Transform is balanced in Balanced Hackmons; Imposter is not. Gen 2 Snorlax is Uber.
"funny guy" might have amazing stats but with a defence of 1 priority moves is its bane, but get rid of that and your opponent is DOOOOMED unless it only have crapy moves ofc hehe
hariyama isn't even that bad in vgc, it's diet iron hands with one or two tools that iron hands doesn't have but a worse version of a top 5 pokemon isn't that bad and maybe your team needs knock off or wide guard which would make hariyama the better choice
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The past form of iron hands normal hands
Flesh Hands
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Wait, no-
Fat Hands
Thick Fat Hands
Past Paradox Hariyama "Great Hands" when ?
Its a shame that it would take another billion years for it to evolve into Brian Hans, and be domaint in VGC
At least that not like Tyranitar and Hydreigon
I've seen it top regionals in vgc before.
People just didn’t have the Guts to use Hariyama until now
that’s a nice pun lol
with this large change of the meta they had to think fast
Knock Off the puns
@@jman2050 🤣🤣
>Hariyama is a low usage Pokémon
>Future paradox iron hands exists
>Iron hands is good
>Brings attention back to hariyama
>People find good in hariyama from iron hands
>Hariyama gets better usage
>Hariyama becomes it’s own past paradox
Thank You Mister Cool For This Very Informative Docu-Film And For Safeguarding The Community From Funny Guy You Are A Hero.
Some have speculated that "Funny Guy" is actually a Horse..
i'm starting to think you might be the funny guy here@@jimothycool
Woah it’s glimbus!
Nice to know that the future paradox form of Hariyama, Iron Hands, is thriving in Gen 9 OU
Wait hang on, that's real?
Iron hands permanent is home is uubl which is funny been banned from uu like three times now
It's not so much thriving in OU as much as it is too much for UU.
It is thriving in VGC though.
@@TheOtherNeutrinonah iron hands is really good in ou, counters dragonite, roaring moon, great tusk, among many other top level threat
I'll always remember my first playthrough of Platinum as a kid, I found Hariyama for the first time and thought he looked super strong. I nicknamed him "Sumo Man" and expected him to be incredibly powerful. To my disappointment he didn't really do anything. He was slow and his moves sucked. But this was because I had no idea what I was doing as a kid. After discovering competitive pokemon I am so happy to know how to use him appropriately now. He's one of may favorite Pokémon because he was one of the first pokemon that made me interested in competitive- because even as an 11 year old I was thinking "this thing can't possibly be bad, he looks so strong, maybe I'm doing something wrong?" Then I went down the rabbit hole of learning EV/IV's abilities, held items, physical/special split, etc. lol
I first got him in Emerald. He was often too slow to attack first in Battle Frontier but God have mercy on any soul that is weak to Fighting or Rock...
"Low risk moves like knock off can be come a problem if they are too widely distributed" well then....
Good thing they kinda undid that lol
it has become a problem
"Earliest example of a defensively oriented fighting type"
Hitmontop: 😭
Its called Shitmontop for a reason.
He's pretty good in VGC
gsc heracross :)
hariyama is one of the most unique fighting types in all of pokemon
Hariyama set itself apart from the competition in its debut game with that massive 144 base HP stat and access to the excellent defensive ability Thick Fat-which provides a Fire and Ice resistance.
This the first example of a _defensively_ oriented Fighting type.
@@a-s-greigunfortunately from gen 4 onward Haryiama would begin to get outclassed
With the addition of more and more bulky fighting types over the years
But in Gen 3, Hariyama’s unique qualities and defensive advantages over its competition are very valuable.
Funny Guy might just be my new favorite paradox form yet
Obsessed with his overly min-maxed stats
Iron Hands has been a godsend in VGC, so praise to his thicc father
This is insane Jimothy.
Gen 3 is so much fun, ur tournament has inspired me to try out so many archetypes. Higher elo games have taught me so much about scouting for traps, coming from a mostly team preview background (started comp singles bw1). Way more accessible than gen 2, but slower than gen 9. Still filled with hacks given crit rate/dmg + para spam. I like how balanced the meta game is overall though, nothing feels unbeatable. My favorite play style so far is physical offense, but a bulky Hariyama wish support team with spikes /sand rampant is satisfying to see chip accumulate as opposed to one shoting everything.
We love Hariyama, don't we folks?
Well……..
@@etymonlegomenon931I HATE FINCHINATOR I HATE FINCHINATOR
what a funny guy
1:53 “What am I fucking clown to you, do I amuse you?”
Goodfellas is my favorite movie
Hariyama is one of the most unique fighting types in all of Pokémon
Hariyama set itself apart from the competition in its debut game
Hariyama is such a well-designed Pokémon. I've got nothing else to add, really. I already had a soft spot for it and thought it was a bit underrated in the past, but hearing an explanation of how perfectly it fits in the metagame of the generation it was introduced in makes me appreciate it even more.
But then again, I always had a soft spot for slow, tanky, but hard-hitting Pokémon, so I'm aware I have kind of a bias. 😂
I've been using this mon with my friend on the ADV ladder and it's a fun one for sure. Hugely glad you got me into this metagame.
we making it out of UUBL with this one🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
This was my favourite pokemon when I played emerald for the first time as a kid. Emerald was my first game
Also as a kid when I played diamond for the first time I caught a wurmple from a honey tree and evolved it into beautifly. Which I then replaced my chimchar with for some reason
Always was great! Despite its bulk being strange, it could always live one hit and thanks to its high base attack, it could seriously hurt literally anything.
Overall, great Pokemon and my favorite fighting type. Can't believe it's just UUBL.
Came for competetive pokémon videos, stayed for Jimothy Cool Lore
My Hariyama is named “The Faculty” and I use him to grind EVs. He’s been with me since gen 3. Love that dude.
I was thinking "why use HP Ghost instead of Knock Off?". Instantly remember Knock Off had 20 Power and was special. Even under those detrimental conditions is impressive running it and be viable.
Jimothy you still haven’t made a gen3 wheezing video, that is insane.
that Funny Guy nonsub bit got me to finally subscribe. The system works, we exist, etc.
You've done the right thing.
Everytime i see your videos, since i've never played any ADV format, i always wonder why there are so many pokemon in UUBL. It seems like it could be its standalone tier
(love your videos)
I know they balance the games around VGC rather than singles, but I am astounded at Knock Off's modern power level. Removing a Pokémon's item is already unbelievably valuable, surely? I can't imagine how it would need 130 power on top of that. In the words of Copernicus, "this is insane."
It’s a 1.5x boost to the 65 base power, not double. But yeah it’s wild they made it stronger than Crunch while also doing more lol
Not to mention they made it a teachable move in Gen 5 (I believe?)
@@Zmeeed01It was only 20 base power in Gen 5
@@C4GeneralFAh, my bad! Thank you!
I can’t lie I fucking lost it when Funny Guy showed up 💀
7:42 Rare Jimothy Furret mention
Great intro with the good fellas reference
Bulky offense always seems to be one of the most viable team types
That was something I practiced in Gen 6 Monotype with Dragon back in the day. Tank Garchomp + AV Goodra, both with the Dragon Tail, did some nice softening to reach the important damage thresholds
In general, or gen 3?
I used Hariyama regularly back in the day on ADV on netbattle. It was even better when baton pass teams were allowed.
“I exist solely for Jimothy Cool’s entertainment? … This is insane!” - Funny Guy 🃏
Hariyama is a Pokemon I really overlooked when I first played through Gen 3, but nearly every gen I have found something new to like about it, and I was really happy to play it in early VGC (reg A) as a support 'mon. Sadly it fell off as the format got power crept, so I'm always happy to see it thriving in earlier generations.
i remember not really liking hariyama until i used it on a hoenn playthrough team. Its now probably my favourite fighting type.
Funny guy really got me off guard lmfao that's hilarious
I’ve been using Hariyama on my TSS Gen 3 team. It’s so cool, and is genuinely fun to use a good defensive fighting type! Knock Off really helps wear down mons like Suicune, and helps put mons like Skarmory on a timer since it no longer has recovery. Aerodactyl also hates losing Choice Band.
Why is gen 3 so goated
It's just, you know. You're just funny, it's... funny, you know the way you threaten JimothyCool non-subscribers and everything.
If I remember correctly, Guts did not ignore the attack reduction of Burn in Gen 3, causing the attack boost of Guts to be canceled out. This was changed in Gen 4, I believe.
It certainly does on showdown.
this is not true, Gen 3 guts does still ignore burn damage reduction
you know, i don't think I've ever heard someone slander Hariyama
When I read Tyranitar’s line in the thumbnail I heard Anakin in my head.
I just realized it's doing the MR. BEEEEEEEAST pose
Now we have Brian hands, who is the Omni man to haryamas invincible.
"Scientists and scholars agree, Hariyama is epic." I'll forgive you for being from the UK, and sub.
Think Jim is an Aussie but I could be wrong
Watched a vod recently where he said he was Australian, yeah
He’s definitely Australian
In the Espathra video he says “my country went to war with emus”
I don't care what kind of English he is, good content.
That isn’t Hariyama, this is Brian Hands’ cousin Norman Hands
Come for the gen 3 nostalgia bait, stay for the Maple BGM nostalgia bait
Hariyama is at another peak because of iron hands. You may be weak to ground now, but you no longer weak to flying with pawmots shared typing with one powerful paradox Pokémon
so we have Funny Guy now, the lore deepens
Man, this is insane. Its 4 am.
Wait so how often do ADV tier shifts take place? Monthly, or just whenever it's deemed necessary? And moving Hariyama from UUBL to OU would have an effect in name only, right? Is the point just to accurately reflect its perceived viability?
Funny Guy doesn't seem to be much of a threat. Any Quick Attack or Sucker Punch would kill him instantly.
Out of curiosity, would it be worth it for Hariyama to have Substitute? It would add more fuel to the mind game fire and give Hariyama status protection which would be good for Thick Fat sets.
I’ve been using hariyama since day one, the goat💯
Jimmington B Coolothy delivers another clapper
All the years of mockery must have affected Funny Guy deeply. I just hope he gets the help he needs before he gets taken advantage of by the dastardly Iron Mugulis
My first shint was a Makuhita when i was grinding Victory Road.... It used whirlwind first turn
I transferred over my Hariyama from Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness all the way to Pokemon Scarlet and started using it online in doubles just for the trick room teams that are everywhere. It's not as good as Iron Hands but it's still decent
“Hariyaaama, Hary on a Cross”
i've been using this guy since Sword and Shield cuz he's got takeout and wide guard, using him next to toxtricity in NU to spam boom burst and hit steel types who walk Tox
Normal hands really do be gaming
Niche pokemon in gen 3 ubers? Just a thought, nice video btw.
I hear Funny Guy struggles with entry hazards + priority. He might try scarf tera water with trick to handle those threats but I hear the “wet bandit” strategy isn’t very good
Jimothy, Is it wrong I’d love a video on what G3 OU does wrong from you?
nah
This is epic
I'm growing increasingly worried about Jim's descriptions
big boi is back!
This is my boy there, I've raised this child! That's why it's the GOAT!
Why didn't you try out hairymama at the end of the video?
Insane Hands
It also got belly drum and bullet punch
nice vid
Fastest view yet.
@@jimothycool literally popped up on my notifications
Why don't they do earlier gen tier ladders based on usage statistics? How people think this would make things different from the current viability system?
How does move priority and speed work in? Gen 3ou I've been playing it with a friend and despite my Pokemon outspeedimg his, random moves seem to get priority
Like meotoero mash and earthquake
Your friend is probably using Quick Claw LOL
i definitely agree that hariyama should be OU. It has much more versatility than the other fighting types, having 2 good abilities and multiple different moveslots, making it unpredictable and awkward to switch into. being able to always do something against common fighting checks as opposed to a breloom spore or any other fighting type gimmick make it the most consistent fighter out there. it has a surprising amount of switchin opportunities vs tyranitar, blissey, and snorlax (albeit more shaky here), which is more valuable in a gen 3 environment where you want to dish out progress multiple times in a battle. i hope hariyama rises soon because it definitely deserves it, I would personally rank it above joleton, cloyster, and gyarados at the moment.
Who is the best focus punch user?
question from somewhat of an outsider, is there any functional difference between UUBL and OU? Aside from theoretically being able to return to UU should it be unbanned
OU mons can drop to UU of they're not banned from there already. UUBL is for mons that got banned but aren't used much in OU.
Funny guy was coming after me until I subscribed. It was insane.
That is insane.
please make something about gen 9 uu
My recent vid about Heatran features some UU gameplay and a nice UU team. Was also thinking of covering Okidogi who is doing very well in UU.
I thought you said "please do something about gen 9 uu" and imagined Jimothy personally doing something to change the metagame
brian hands and barry hands
Gen 3 introduced great fighting types and fighting type moves. Gen 2 had a severe balance issue where Normal types were overpowered, because the Fighting type was horrible before Gen 3. basically, Gen 2 Normal was Gen 1 Psychic. And Gen 2 Snorlax was Gen 1 Mewtwo of its generation.
Gen 2 Snorlax is so overcentralizing it requires at least 3 dedicated team mates to deal with. Skarmory, Snorlax itself, and a strong attacker which can hit it hard. All 3 have to be tailor made just to deal with Snorlax or you auto lose.
But Gen 2 Snorlax is fair and balanced in OU. Gen 2 OU is more balanced with it than without, even though it is the worst case of overcentralization in competitive Pokemon history. Even Gen 1 Mewtwo could be beaten with a Gengar using Hypnosis and Night Shade. That's one teammate, not three. Gen 1 Mewtwo is less overcentralizing than Gen 2 Snorlax is in OU
Gen 2 Snorlax is Uber
i won't play gen 2 ou because there is no fun to be had. i have no teambuilding options whatsoever because everything fucking revolves around snorlax like a black hole. this is the unhealthiest metagame i have ever seen
balanced hackmons with imposter isn't even as bad as gen 2 snorlax
if you ban snorlax it will just get replaced by ursaring as snorlax lite, the metagame won't fucking crumble without this black hole of a crutch bending the fabric of reality around it with its overpoweredness
Gen 2 Snorlax is actually worse than Gen 1 mewtwo, AND gen 8 zacian. both have more available counterplay that is less overcentralizing even when allowed in fucking OU. gen 2 snorlax is the most overpowered legitimate pokemon of all time in its respective meta
gen 2 snorlax could have been manageable, if taunt and better fighting moves like focus punch existed in gen 2. if focus punch was in gen 2 i would not complain about it at all. the problem is that it is a perfect pokemon in gen 2 where power creep hasn't balanced it out yet.
sorry for this tangent about gen 2 snorlax, it only came up because i was thinking that if hariyama existed in gen 2, snorlax would actually be OU and not anything goes material, but kids on showdown use it as a crutch so they voted to keep it in OU. i wish i could manipulate votes to keep zacian in OU but i'm not that kind of person, i just play the monster fisticuffs game
both gen 2 snorlax and imposter in balanced hackmons have the same problem: they are clearly overpowered if you use common sense, but they are also easy win buttons, aka crutches, so the people using them vote to keep them in the format, regardless of whether they are actually too strong for the format. votes are being manipulated to keep these easy win buttons legal in those formats, despite the fact that they warp and distort the metagame around them they are so overpowered.
Imposter should be banned from Balanced Hackmons, with Transform being allowed in its place since it takes a turn to set up. Transform is balanced in Balanced Hackmons; Imposter is not.
Gen 2 Snorlax is Uber.
I hope Funny Guy likes my first impression of him.
Thicc Hands
Big Gloves
7:50 Lmao
Get your Guts challenge ladder runs in while one of the best Guts Pokemon counts for Guts challenge
Wait who is the competitor for Bulky Fighter in Gen 4?
Hitmontop. It has:
- Intimidate
- 95 Def
- 110 SpDef
- Fake Out
- Rapid Spin
- Foresight
Hitmontop in gen 4 XD
Since duskull has a 100% winrate in tournauments, it should be banned as overpowered.
“First defensive fighting type” GSC Heracross was technically the first.
Is it me or Gen 3 is the only past Gen OU with the luxury of tier shift? Because clearly Gen 4 would need one.
He really is a funny guy.
2:06 stiil a fun guy
Any First Impression user
"funny guy" might have amazing stats but with a defence of 1 priority moves is its bane, but get rid of that and your opponent is DOOOOMED unless it only have crapy moves ofc hehe
Hariyama believer here.
Oh hell na not past paradox form of mr.mime
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Alls good here lol
hariyama isn't even that bad in vgc, it's diet iron hands with one or two tools that iron hands doesn't have but a worse version of a top 5 pokemon isn't that bad and maybe your team needs knock off or wide guard which would make hariyama the better choice