I found this vid a year ago when I first got into the hobby, didn't realize it was a Do RC vid back then. Since then, I've become a huge fan of the channel after watching you take apart so many cars. I've used Fiba tape and e6000 on 2 of my cars and it holds up so well! I think I've learned the most about RC cars from this channel alone, keep up the good work!
Awesome yeah it's definitely worth it! Let me know how it turns out :-) Thanks for watching if you enjoy the videos a sub to my channel is appreciated.
I'm not going to lie I was cringing a little too. I'm confident in the reinforcement but it's a really thin body. Held up great though :-) thanks for watching!
To be honest I wasn't even sure what would happen when I stomped on it. It took it like a champ though. Can't guarantee that everybody would survive like that but it certainly wouldn't have without the reinforcement. Thanks for watching!
I use ice cubes to smooth out the shoe goo so it's nice and even. The goo doesn't stick to the ice cube and it has always worked great in my experience!
That's an interesting idea! I've never really worried too much about it being too even but definitely sounds like something to try in the future :-) thanks for watching and if you aren't already subscribed a sub is appreciated!
@@DoRC that sounds like a better idea I will have to give it ago when I next do one probably saves a lot as well as your scrapping off all the unnecessary excess I come out the rc hobby for awhile but getting bored was sat on eBay & just grab myself 5 cheap rc projects so will definitely give this a go on one of them mate and see how it holds up so yeah appreciate the information buddy 👍
Yeah I think we've all got a body or two glued to the side of the house :-) Seriously though it can be a pretty messy process especially the first couple times you do it but it does get better with practice and it is worth it.
Hmm. Yeah, I've watched tons of RC Body Reinforcement and i think this is the method I'm gunna stick with. It was the "Standing on the Body" that sold it. Also.., Love the Paint Job on the Torch. Brilliant.
Great video!! I love that you were stomping on that poor body lol. Thanks for the great info! I've done the gorilla tape and it works but I can tell that this method is stronger!! 💪 Keep em coming!✌🏻
Yeah I have a video on gorilla tape as well. I think it's the best quick and easy method though like you said not quite as strong as the one shown in this video.
In what way is it better? I'd have to imagine they're pretty similar material but the window screen doesn't have any self-adhesive. Doesn't that make it a lot more difficult to apply? Have you tried the cement board tape on the video? It's a lot with than drywall tape
Yeah this is a little bit of a pain and can be very messy but once you do it a few times it's fairly straightforward and it definitely makes bodies last a lot longer
As someone who works with silicone and other caulk on an industrial basis, buy some GoJo and wet your hands with it before shaping or finishing. The orange oil allows you to finish and shape caulk without it sticking to your hands as long as you keep them wet. Like magic.
You had me at e6000. That stuff is great. I'll have to test out this method next time i get a new rc body. | Post watching whole video edit: Okay no need to test. The stomping on it sold me. I did say out loud "no." when you did that. If it can survive that, then it can mostly anything.
@@DoRC No adhesive backing. That'll make it a little more work, but hopefully it'll be worth it. Picked some up last night, and have new bodies in the mail.
Does this provide any damping of noise from body rattling? I have a new Slash with the latch system and it doesn't lock the body in place. ...makes more noise than any other car at the track.
You could but it would make it pretty inflexible and in order to make it strong enough to withstand not being able to flex You're going to have to make it very heavy.
I came up with a same concept, but i used a polyurethane seam sealant and sanded the body with a scotch-brite. At the beginning it held well, but a bit later it started to come off due to a poor adhesion
Yeah unfortunately the polyurethane base adhesives that I have tried really don't seem to stick to the body / whatever they're using to screen print on the bodies with. The e6000 forms a really good bond.
I've always just used Shoe Goo on my race bodies, monster truck, 1/8 scale buggies and Short Course mainly in the corners and right around the body mounts, and never use a stock body or a pre-painted body, jconcepts are more thicker and stand up better in off-road racing, plus I like my paint color scheme so it easily identified on the track
Yeah if you just want a little light reinforcement goo works fine. If you do find that you need a little bit more try putting bits of the drywall tape in as well. It makes a huge difference.
Wow great idea! I just upgraded my RC car to a 3600kv Brushless Motor and crashing has destroyed the body so I am DEFINITELY doing this to my new body that I have ordered! Thanks for sharing this! :D
Would it be worthwhile to spray a clear coat of some type of spray paint for protection on the outside of the shell, to protect from scrapes, etc? I have a Gorgon.
You could try it though I'm not sure how well it would work. The polycarbon is already pretty durable and I'm not sure a layer of paint on top of it It's going to make a whole lot of difference. If you do try it make sure you use a polycarbonate specific paint.
Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) there aren't any skate parks near my house. Honestly though I wouldn't go if there were. You'll ALWAYS tear stuff up at a skate park. There are plenty of channels that dedicate themselves to breaking things. I like to show bash testing that is closer to how most regular ppl bash:). Thanks for watching and commenting!
@DoRC wasn't suggesting skate park because of other channels. I live in NYC the concrete jungle and seeing bashers in a skate park is not uncommon at all. It's actually my boys favorite place to and after doing some bashing there myself I see why. The down side is the beating on the car so tips like yours certainly help! I'm going to try everything you suggested and see how it goes!
The rattle can versions aren't as good. If you go to a professional installer and have them spray on a bedliner it's very durable though it also makes the body very heavy.
I've been using Clear FlexSeal. The small can. It goes on easily and thin, and I let it dry before doing a second thin coat. Works very well and doesn't add as much weight to the body.
@kristopherdonaldson9569 flex seal is okay and it is lightweight but it doesn't provide the same level of protection as this method. If you're looking for some casual reinforcement it definitely is good but it's not as good as tape and goo
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I mostly do amateur stuff and nothing as violent as bashing, so I'm using aluminium foil tape - mostly to handle tire rubbing. I like that damage eventually shows the metal underneath 😅
Yeah pretty much anything that will reinforce it definitely helps. I use gorilla tape on bodies that aren't going to be getting beat up too badly or just what I'm feeling lazy. Thanks for watching and if you enjoy my videos a sub is appreciated:)
A body like that will take a full tube. I now use the larger caulk style tubes. If you can get something similar like shoe goo or something like that it might be better. Or is the size limitation a legal thing?
@@DoRC our restrictions are usually based on American companies using dangerous additives as is the case with the product you used unfortunately. I found a British equivalent called The Dogs Bollox (quite a normal name here). Others use it in the UK and as there's no importing, it's very cheap. I watched a guy do an xmaxx using the product I mentioned and he said one tube should do it so he had better be correct.
The bedliner does work pretty well as long as it's a professionally done one. The rattle can ones don't work very well in my experience they just tend to rip with the body. They downsides to the professionally done bedliner are that you have to take it somewhere and pay someone else to do it and that it makes the body very very heavy.
You mean e6000? Yes they do seem very similar. I like the e6000 though because you can get it in a caulking gun tube. Makes application a lot faster. It can get pretty messy though cuz it tends to ooze but I like it better
I prefer shoegoo over E6000. Shoegoo is thicker. The E6000 is thinner and will run downhill. I haven't tried shoegoo on an rc body yet but I was not happy with the E6000 on my first rc body. I'll be using shoegoo on my next rc body. I've been using it for years and it's my favorite adhesive.
I haven't really had any issue with e6000 running though I do think that it being a little thinner is advantageous because it's easier to spread. Honestly I've had the opposite problem where e6000 tends to skin over really quickly but I used shoe goo for years before switching to e6000 and it works just fine!
Depends on what vehicle you are doing. For normal 1/10 or 1/8 scale vehicles one two will probably be enough but if you're doing something larger it almost certainly won't be.
I'm honestly not sure which one is more durable. The truck bed liner actually probably is the more durable of the two but it's also way heavier, in my opinion less convenient cuz you have to go somewhere to get it done, more expensive and makes the body so thick that body clips don't fit well anymore. Now that's all talking about having it professionally truck bed lined. I've tried the DIY bed liners and in my experience they really just don't work that well. They tend to rip easily and just don't provide the same kind of protection.
On average just one but I will sometimes add a second layer If I know there are areas of high impact or high wear and sometimes it does overlap itself so you'll end up with two layers even if you don't mean to in places.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean. The reinforcement goes on the underside of the body so that will inherently protect things from getting scratched.
@@ryanvoogt5036 ah. Depending on the vehicle You might be able to get skid plates. They also make chassis skins that can help somewhat. That being said generally speaking there's not much you can do about it and it's just sort of a part of bashing.
QUESTION! Just to confirm, are you able to use gorilla tape AND use the e6000 with the cement board tape? This would obviously be a bit overkill, but if I am going to put the time in, I want to make sure I have one of the strongest bodies out there. Thank you!
@@coolmaster3599 sure though keep in mind the more weight you add to the vehicle the more likely it is that things are going to break in a crash so there's definitely a balance
That is something good to keep in mind, thank you! I was hoping to do a double layer in some of the spots on the Kratom body that I know are super weak. I have already ruined two bodies in the same spot on the bed of the truck. Hopefully a double layer there keeps things holding up for a little while longer.
Up to a point yes. If you seal the end of it well then the tube will last a while. It will eventually harden up though and you may at least have to cut some more off the end of the nozzle to get fresh product out. I would say for a normal size body you'll probably use about a third of the tube. That's not really a big problem for me because I reinforced bodies fairly frequently but if it's going to be 6 months between body reinforcements for you you might end up scrapping the rest of the tube.
I think it depends on what you use for the glue. As long as it could remain flexible and stuck to the body well it would probably be okay. Would fiber composite is surprisingly strong and durable. Try it and let me know! Thanks for watching and if you aren't are you subscribed a sub is appreciated.
I’m gonna have to try e6000. Addam at addams playground said it’s the same as shoe goo but as you said cheaper. You can get a tube and a caulk gun cheaper than a small tube of shoe goo.
From what I can tell they are identical. They behave exactly the same look exactly the same and smell exactly the same. Even if they are different I don't think it matters. E6000 in the caulk tube is the way to go!
Maybe though that would make the body pretty stiff and I'm not entirely sure that the resin would react well with the paint. It also would be very heavy unless you were really judicious with the glass and resin. I think overall the drywall tape and shugu is an easier method though the fiberglass and resin might end up being stronger in the long run.
I've never had it happen but it's definitely a better safe than sorry kind of thing. If you have any concerns of it put a little bit of the glue and inconspicuous place and let it dry and see what happens.
Yeah that was with a 2S lipo in it. I actually took it camping with me this weekend and so far I'm really happy with it. I'm going to buy some upgrades for it and put a brushless system in it. Thing is a lot of fun!
@@DoRC , you really don't need the brushless. A Gens Ace 3200Mah 3s made my dirt bug a very angry drunken baby. I bought a VLX Traxxas brushless set that wound up in my Kyosho Fazer Chevele.
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It can. The larger the car the proportionally smaller amount of weight it adds (as the car is already heavier) but it will probably double the weight of most bodies.
@@DoRC thanks for the response! I’m thinking I want to do it to XRT and XMAXX body. Hopefully it won’t add too much weight in the grand scheme. Great video!
@@DoRC I did it on a 1/12 scale basher body a while back. Total noob mistake.. I was securing light wires with hot glue like it was a foam plane, instead of taping them. I didn't think it would warp, but it pretty much melted the plastic and caused a huge dent. Just a cautionary, not criticizing I like the cement tape idea
@@scaleworksRC ah. Okay yeah sometimes those smaller car bodies can be pretty thin. It also might have been PVC and not polycarbonate which has a lower glass transition temperature. That being said I'm sure it is possible to soften a polycarbonate body with hot glue it's just not something I've ever done :-)
So I did this with my WR8 and although it feels stronger, I don't like the smell of shoe goo lol. Do you know if it dissipates after some time? It's been about 3 days now. It is a lot less then when it was wet, which is what to expect from any glue.
Yes. Best thing to do is put it out in the sun and let it get nice and hot which will help bake off all of the volatiles. You can also set it in front of a box fan in your garage or outside overnight and the air movement will help a lot.
I've never done it but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't make things stronger. You are definitely going to be running into diminishing returns at some point though and the body's going to end up pretty heavy.
Yes it's been done. In my experience neither one of them works as well as e6000. I've heard a few get the professional spray in bed liners done they work really well but they're also extremely heavy.
Sure if you paint the body first you can then reinforce it afterward. You'll want to make sure that the paint you're using doesn't have a bad reaction with the glue though as that does happen occasionally
Only if you are intent on crashing your RC on purpose. My on road RC cars i am definitely not going to run them like that, or crazy speeds, and no crazy speed turns which will inevitably lead to body shell damage .
Unless I'm testing something I don't crash my stuff on purpose but I do crash stuff all the time anyway. Reinforcing the body is a pretty simple and inexpensive way to make it last a lot longer than it would otherwise! Thanks for commenting and if you enjoy my videos a sub to my channel is appreciated :-)
Don't get me wrong I take a lot of chances that end up in crashes but I don't do it on purpose Like I said unless I'm testing something. For me unless I'm pushing the limits I'm not really having fun though so pushing those limits often ends in something going wrong.
I've tried paint brushes before but they really don't work at least in my experience. The stuff's too thick and it just ends up globbing all over the brush and not really spreading out. What I have found since then is to use an old credit card or gift card. It works really really well.
Well the idea is that you learn to do it in 5 minutes and I get that it's not exactly 5 minutes long but it's also a TH-cam video so maybe a little bit of creative license is being employed. Thanks for watching :-)
Really the best thing to do would be a 3D scan it and then have it milled from a solid block of titanium but at some point the weight and amount of time and effort involved are going to outweigh the benefits.
First of all this won’t take 5 minutes. Secondly, this is overkill and your body can and will still crack and detach from the rc body because it will rip off the paint away from the lexan. Stay away from these guys and their fabulous ideas. They only want likes and subscribes.
It's video that's 5 minutes long not the process :-) I've been doing this for years on many bodies as of a lot of other people. It's very effective. It doesn't make the body indestructible but it certainly makes it last a lot longer. This was not my original idea either. It's been around for at least a decade. Anyway thanks for watching and commenting :-)
@@DoRC Damn man you made me feel bad about my comment. The thing is that I’ve seen people do and I did try it myself on my first kraton body and when I crashed, all that stuff just ripped the paint right off. I’ve also done Raptor spray liner and the same thing happened. It’s the paint that’s the weak link.
@@Blankholes interesting. I've never really had a problem with it ripping the paint off. I've probably done this on 30 or 40 bodies over the years and I've never had that happen. I have seen a couple people mention it happening but it was on bodies that they painted themselves. Usually the factory screen finishes pretty tenacious It sucks that you're experience with it was bad but I assure you I don't put any videos up about things I don't firmly believe in and do myself. I try to keep my channel as real as possible. Likes and subs are good but my integrity's worth more than any of that.
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I found this vid a year ago when I first got into the hobby, didn't realize it was a Do RC vid back then. Since then, I've become a huge fan of the channel after watching you take apart so many cars. I've used Fiba tape and e6000 on 2 of my cars and it holds up so well! I think I've learned the most about RC cars from this channel alone, keep up the good work!
That's awesome to hear! Glad to help :-)
You standing on it convinced me to do my new sledge body. Thanks!!
Awesome yeah it's definitely worth it! Let me know how it turns out :-)
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Man, when you stomped on it my jaw actually dropped! Nice video length, too!
I'm not going to lie I was cringing a little too. I'm confident in the reinforcement but it's a really thin body. Held up great though :-) thanks for watching!
When u stepped on it I was like , no freakin way. lol. Great video. I’ll be doing this to all my Rc bodies.
To be honest I wasn't even sure what would happen when I stomped on it. It took it like a champ though. Can't guarantee that everybody would survive like that but it certainly wouldn't have without the reinforcement. Thanks for watching!
I use ice cubes to smooth out the shoe goo so it's nice and even. The goo doesn't stick to the ice cube and it has always worked great in my experience!
That's an interesting idea! I've never really worried too much about it being too even but definitely sounds like something to try in the future :-) thanks for watching and if you aren't already subscribed a sub is appreciated!
An old gift card works to, or a silicone spatula from the 99 cent store.
It’s just like silicon anything wet will smooth it out I usually just use a pot of water and keep wetting your finger to smooth it
@liamwilliams7782 Yep as long as it's wet it'll work. I have found that an old gift card works really good for spreading it.
@@DoRC that sounds like a better idea I will have to give it ago when I next do one probably saves a lot as well as your scrapping off all the unnecessary excess I come out the rc hobby for awhile but getting bored was sat on eBay & just grab myself 5 cheap rc projects so will definitely give this a go on one of them mate and see how it holds up so yeah appreciate the information buddy 👍
I tried that and now the body is glued to the side of my house.
Yeah I think we've all got a body or two glued to the side of the house :-)
Seriously though it can be a pretty messy process especially the first couple times you do it but it does get better with practice and it is worth it.
Omg I’m in the store looking for comments as to which gorilla tape to get and read this and LITERALLY LAUGHED OUT LOUD when i read this! 😂😂😂
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I winced when you stomped on it. Very effective method and great video!
Yeah I wanted to really show just how good the reinforcement was. I honestly wasn't sure what the result was going to be though :-)
Awesome Video and fun presentation! That's good tips to make your body last way longer I love it 💪💪👍👍
Thanks!
Hmm. Yeah, I've watched tons of RC Body Reinforcement and i think this is the method I'm gunna stick with. It was the "Standing on the Body" that sold it.
Also.., Love the Paint Job on the Torch. Brilliant.
I've tried pretty much every method there is and whereas this one definitely isn't the easiest and isn't the cleanest it is the best
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Great video!! I love that you were stomping on that poor body lol. Thanks for the great info! I've done the gorilla tape and it works but I can tell that this method is stronger!! 💪 Keep em coming!✌🏻
Yeah I have a video on gorilla tape as well. I think it's the best quick and easy method though like you said not quite as strong as the one shown in this video.
That is awesome! Thanks for saving me money on buying a rear wing, and mount! New subscriber here bro! Ding, ding!!
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Thank you so much for this! This has been so helpful to a newbie to the hobby
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Fiberglass window screen works so much better than the drywall tapes
In what way is it better? I'd have to imagine they're pretty similar material but the window screen doesn't have any self-adhesive. Doesn't that make it a lot more difficult to apply?
Have you tried the cement board tape on the video? It's a lot with than drywall tape
Thanks for the cement board tape tip. I’ve already been using E6000.
Yeah the adhesive on it is definitely better and makes the process a little bit more tolerable :-)
Thank you this has been helpful to a newbie to the hobby
The Maverick Quantum Flux Doesn't have a very strong body.
Yeah this is a great option for weaker bodies!
Thanks, now I need to the store and check the item you mentioned 😀
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Awesome thanks for the tips been looking for something to strengthen up these body's the are far too expensive to keep buying.
Yeah this is a little bit of a pain and can be very messy but once you do it a few times it's fairly straightforward and it definitely makes bodies last a lot longer
Very helpful! Thanks man!
Awesome glad you enjoyed thanks for watching :-)
Great tutorial! Looks like I'm off to the hardware store!
Yeah if you haven't done it before you're going to be amazed! It makes a huge difference in body durability. Let me know how it goes
3:48 E6000 covering the floor in the meanwhile ^^
Don't worry about that :-)
As someone who works with silicone and other caulk on an industrial basis, buy some GoJo and wet your hands with it before shaping or finishing. The orange oil allows you to finish and shape caulk without it sticking to your hands as long as you keep them wet. Like magic.
Good idea. I usually just end up licking my fingers but it's not ideal :-)
Thanks. I'm just getting into RC cars and the Nitro rc cars and trucks aren't cheap. This definitely helps protect your investment lol
Absolutely. I would never bash a body without doing this first. It's a little bit of a pain but it makes the bodies last so much longer
You had me at e6000. That stuff is great. I'll have to test out this method next time i get a new rc body. | Post watching whole video edit: Okay no need to test. The stomping on it sold me. I did say out loud "no." when you did that. If it can survive that, then it can mostly anything.
It really does make bodies amazingly more durable. Glad you enjoyed thanks for watching and if you aren't already subscribed a sub is appreciated!
Have you tried Fibefuse? It is continuous fiberglass mat instead of woven mesh.
I haven't. Is it adhesive back I couldn't really tell from the listings I found on it.
@@DoRC No adhesive backing. That'll make it a little more work, but hopefully it'll be worth it. Picked some up last night, and have new bodies in the mail.
@@leaftye how did that work out for you?
Where are you finding e6000 in the big caulking tubes??
I think I got mine on Amazon. Thanks for watching and if you enjoy my videos a sub is appreciated :-)
They dont ship to Alaska on amazon. Not the glue
I'm having trouble finding the caulk gun tube of e6000, as an alternative, do you think one 2oz squeeze tube would be enough for a Slash body?
I don't think so. A 3.7 oz tube of shoe Goo is enough for a pretty good size body but 2 oz is going to be pushing it.
@@DoRC OK, good info. Thanks!
Does this provide any damping of noise from body rattling? I have a new Slash with the latch system and it doesn't lock the body in place. ...makes more noise than any other car at the track.
Definitely. It takes a lot of the tinniness out of the body. It's not going to complete the eliminate it but it does help.
@@DoRC Thanks for the info!
why cant you line the inside or out side in plastic and coat in epoxy fiberglass. trim it and cover with carbon fiber?
You could but it would make it pretty inflexible and in order to make it strong enough to withstand not being able to flex You're going to have to make it very heavy.
I came up with a same concept, but i used a polyurethane seam sealant and sanded the body with a scotch-brite.
At the beginning it held well, but a bit later it started to come off due to a poor adhesion
Yeah unfortunately the polyurethane base adhesives that I have tried really don't seem to stick to the body / whatever they're using to screen print on the bodies with. The e6000 forms a really good bond.
Where did you get the Jeg's Torch from ??? I can't find it for sale anyplace !
They stopped carrying them so you can't get the jwgs version anymore. It is a cen h150 though which is still available.
@@DoRC it's not $99.00 anymore it's $299.00 !!
@@timmy4539 Yeah the $99 thing was a closeout deal from jegs.
I've always just used Shoe Goo on my race bodies, monster truck, 1/8 scale buggies and Short Course mainly in the corners and right around the body mounts, and never use a stock body or a pre-painted body, jconcepts are more thicker and stand up better in off-road racing, plus I like my paint color scheme so it easily identified on the track
Yeah if you just want a little light reinforcement goo works fine. If you do find that you need a little bit more try putting bits of the drywall tape in as well. It makes a huge difference.
I just use resin and fiberglass mats. Works great ...
That definitely sounds like a option. It doesn't make the body to stiff and or heavy?
You live in Ocala? So do I. Great video!!
Yep! Thanks for watching :-)
Wow great idea! I just upgraded my RC car to a 3600kv Brushless Motor and crashing has destroyed the body so I am DEFINITELY doing this to my new body that I have ordered! Thanks for sharing this! :D
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Would it be worthwhile to spray a clear coat of some type of spray paint for protection on the outside of the shell, to protect from scrapes, etc? I have a Gorgon.
You could try it though I'm not sure how well it would work. The polycarbon is already pretty durable and I'm not sure a layer of paint on top of it It's going to make a whole lot of difference. If you do try it make sure you use a polycarbonate specific paint.
How fun was it to clean the puddle up from the caulk running out onto the porch?
I'll give you a hint. It's still there :-)
Next time go to a skate park to bash. Lots of ramps, big jumps and concert!
Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) there aren't any skate parks near my house. Honestly though I wouldn't go if there were. You'll ALWAYS tear stuff up at a skate park. There are plenty of channels that dedicate themselves to breaking things. I like to show bash testing that is closer to how most regular ppl bash:). Thanks for watching and commenting!
@DoRC wasn't suggesting skate park because of other channels. I live in NYC the concrete jungle and seeing bashers in a skate park is not uncommon at all. It's actually my boys favorite place to and after doing some bashing there myself I see why. The down side is the beating on the car so tips like yours certainly help! I'm going to try everything you suggested and see how it goes!
Yeah the body reinforcement will absolutely make them last longer no matter how you're bashing.
If you had to rate them, Is flex seal or truck bed liner any good? Is it better than the tape method?
The rattle can versions aren't as good. If you go to a professional installer and have them spray on a bedliner it's very durable though it also makes the body very heavy.
@@DoRC ok. I'll stick with the e6000 method. Thx.
@@TheDepep1 no problem thanks for watching!
I've been using Clear FlexSeal. The small can. It goes on easily and thin, and I let it dry before doing a second thin coat.
Works very well and doesn't add as much weight to the body.
@kristopherdonaldson9569 flex seal is okay and it is lightweight but it doesn't provide the same level of protection as this method. If you're looking for some casual reinforcement it definitely is good but it's not as good as tape and goo
Would it be stronger with the tape, E6000, and then bed liner?
Probably though at a certain point you're going to get diminishing returns and the increased weight could become a problem.
@@DoRC thanks!
How did you get that 'Jackson Pollock' effect on the 1 body? Thx -U10
That was my girlfriend. She just took different colors and splashed it on with a brush
Well i found some evo stik glue spray i had says its flexible cheaper for us in uk i will try thst out with that tape thank s
Let me know how it goes!
@DoRC thank s man awesome video s I trying the e6000 spray will update you on here
Nice video, kindly share links to these products were to buy.
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Here I’m am looking for the best way to reinforce my crawler bodies. If you can step on it afterwards I’m in. Might have to take a trip to Home Depot
The only downside is the additional weight. If you're doing hardcore serious crawling increasing the center of gravity like that might not be good
I mostly do amateur stuff and nothing as violent as bashing, so I'm using aluminium foil tape - mostly to handle tire rubbing. I like that damage eventually shows the metal underneath 😅
Yeah pretty much anything that will reinforce it definitely helps. I use gorilla tape on bodies that aren't going to be getting beat up too badly or just what I'm feeling lazy. Thanks for watching and if you enjoy my videos a sub is appreciated:)
Quick question! How much of that 300ml tube did you use to do that car? In the UK, that stuff comes in smaller tubes :-(
A body like that will take a full tube. I now use the larger caulk style tubes. If you can get something similar like shoe goo or something like that it might be better. Or is the size limitation a legal thing?
@@DoRC our restrictions are usually based on American companies using dangerous additives as is the case with the product you used unfortunately.
I found a British equivalent called The Dogs Bollox (quite a normal name here). Others use it in the UK and as there's no importing, it's very cheap. I watched a guy do an xmaxx using the product I mentioned and he said one tube should do it so he had better be correct.
So what exactly was done to the granite body? Black tape, mesh tape and then glue?
No it's just the mesh tape and glue. The black you see is just black paint that was used to back the paint job on it.
What about spraying the inside of a lexan body with bedliner/undercoating?
The bedliner does work pretty well as long as it's a professionally done one. The rattle can ones don't work very well in my experience they just tend to rip with the body. They downsides to the professionally done bedliner are that you have to take it somewhere and pay someone else to do it and that it makes the body very very heavy.
I think Shoe Goo might be the commercial or construction version of Shoe Goo.... Seems identical to me!
You mean e6000? Yes they do seem very similar. I like the e6000 though because you can get it in a caulking gun tube. Makes application a lot faster. It can get pretty messy though cuz it tends to ooze but I like it better
@@DoRC yes typo..... Where's my coffee?
How many layers do you do
1ish. Some areas will end up with a little bit more but in my experience one is enough
I prefer shoegoo over E6000. Shoegoo is thicker. The E6000 is thinner and will run downhill. I haven't tried shoegoo on an rc body yet but I was not happy with the E6000 on my first rc body. I'll be using shoegoo on my next rc body. I've been using it for years and it's my favorite adhesive.
I haven't really had any issue with e6000 running though I do think that it being a little thinner is advantageous because it's easier to spread. Honestly I've had the opposite problem where e6000 tends to skin over really quickly but I used shoe goo for years before switching to e6000 and it works just fine!
I have a tube I used it's the size of large shoe goo tube is that enough glue I did it last night so I'm itching to try it when I get home tonight
Depends on what vehicle you are doing. For normal 1/10 or 1/8 scale vehicles one two will probably be enough but if you're doing something larger it almost certainly won't be.
4s arrma kraton 2.5
You really prefer this method over the truck liner? Is that based on cost or do you think this is more durable?
I'm honestly not sure which one is more durable. The truck bed liner actually probably is the more durable of the two but it's also way heavier, in my opinion less convenient cuz you have to go somewhere to get it done, more expensive and makes the body so thick that body clips don't fit well anymore.
Now that's all talking about having it professionally truck bed lined. I've tried the DIY bed liners and in my experience they really just don't work that well. They tend to rip easily and just don't provide the same kind of protection.
How many layers did you put of the tape?
On average just one but I will sometimes add a second layer If I know there are areas of high impact or high wear and sometimes it does overlap itself so you'll end up with two layers even if you don't mean to in places.
Ok cool Ty ! Appreciate it 👍🏼
@michaelrios1747 You're welcome Thanks for watching :-)
Would you reinforce the underbody, where it can rub on things and scratch? If so, what would you use?
I'm not entirely sure what you mean. The reinforcement goes on the underside of the body so that will inherently protect things from getting scratched.
@@DoRC I mean the bottom of the vehicle, where it can rub on the ground, curbs, etc.
@@ryanvoogt5036 ah. Depending on the vehicle You might be able to get skid plates. They also make chassis skins that can help somewhat. That being said generally speaking there's not much you can do about it and it's just sort of a part of bashing.
QUESTION! Just to confirm, are you able to use gorilla tape AND use the e6000 with the cement board tape? This would obviously be a bit overkill, but if I am going to put the time in, I want to make sure I have one of the strongest bodies out there. Thank you!
I don't see why not. Obviously do the cement board tape and adhesive first.
Thank you! Is it okay to layer the cement tape 2-3 layers?
@@coolmaster3599 sure though keep in mind the more weight you add to the vehicle the more likely it is that things are going to break in a crash so there's definitely a balance
That is something good to keep in mind, thank you! I was hoping to do a double layer in some of the spots on the Kratom body that I know are super weak. I have already ruined two bodies in the same spot on the bed of the truck. Hopefully a double layer there keeps things holding up for a little while longer.
@@coolmaster3599 Yeah I don't think there's anything wrong with doing a double layer in particularly vulnerable spots.
Can you reuse the e6000 tube? How much did you use?
Up to a point yes. If you seal the end of it well then the tube will last a while. It will eventually harden up though and you may at least have to cut some more off the end of the nozzle to get fresh product out.
I would say for a normal size body you'll probably use about a third of the tube. That's not really a big problem for me because I reinforced bodies fairly frequently but if it's going to be 6 months between body reinforcements for you you might end up scrapping the rest of the tube.
Wat about papermache I wonder
I think it depends on what you use for the glue. As long as it could remain flexible and stuck to the body well it would probably be okay. Would fiber composite is surprisingly strong and durable. Try it and let me know!
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If we’ve already bashed and have some body damage would you recommend still doing this process?
Absolutely. The fiberglass tape is amazing at repairing already damaged bodies.
What a difference!!!
Yeah it's definitely worth doing :-) thanks for watching!
Hi have you tryed the e6000 spray glue an is it good
I haven't but I have tried other spray adhesives and found them to be a little thin
I’m gonna have to try e6000. Addam at addams playground said it’s the same as shoe goo but as you said cheaper. You can get a tube and a caulk gun cheaper than a small tube of shoe goo.
From what I can tell they are identical. They behave exactly the same look exactly the same and smell exactly the same. Even if they are different I don't think it matters. E6000 in the caulk tube is the way to go!
@@DoRC where are you finding this?
Do someone know a replacement for e6000 readily available in europe?
Can you get shoe goo in Europe?
@@DoRCnon 😕
What kind of adhesive is it. Probably another brand sells it in your country.
fiberglass and resin
Maybe though that would make the body pretty stiff and I'm not entirely sure that the resin would react well with the paint. It also would be very heavy unless you were really judicious with the glass and resin. I think overall the drywall tape and shugu is an easier method though the fiberglass and resin might end up being stronger in the long run.
@@DoRC i think raptor liner is ,see is great and fast sprayed on
Will this damage paint on the inside?
I've never had it happen but it's definitely a better safe than sorry kind of thing. If you have any concerns of it put a little bit of the glue and inconspicuous place and let it dry and see what happens.
@@DoRC Thanks, I'll try it out when my new body comes.
Sounds good let me know how it goes!
Just a question, i have flexi tuff stuff from cml, will it work still?
Not sure. I've never tried that
If you dont have a caulking gun u dont need a caulking tube e6000 they make the same size tube as the shoe goo package looks almost exactly the same.
Yes you can get in the smaller sizes it's just cost more.
Move the pin plug on the ESC for LiPo and throw a 3s battery at it. Those Torches are ANGRY little things.
Yeah that was with a 2S lipo in it. I actually took it camping with me this weekend and so far I'm really happy with it. I'm going to buy some upgrades for it and put a brushless system in it. Thing is a lot of fun!
@@DoRC , you really don't need the brushless. A Gens Ace 3200Mah 3s made my dirt bug a very angry drunken baby. I bought a VLX Traxxas brushless set that wound up in my Kyosho Fazer Chevele.
Well I will definitely try a 3S before I go brushless then :-)
This is exactly what i used on my XMaxx body. Only thing I would suggest to anyone who does this would be to have adequate ventilation.
Yeah definitely do it outside. That's why I showed it being done outside and mentioned it in the video :-). It is not an indoor activity as I'm sure anybody who tried to do it indoors would find out very quickly.
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I thought he was talking about the truck body being ventilated to keep the electronics a little cooler
I don't think so. The glue really stinks and it needs to be done outside otherwise you're going to give yourself a headache
Does it add a lot of weight?
It can. The larger the car the proportionally smaller amount of weight it adds (as the car is already heavier) but it will probably double the weight of most bodies.
@@DoRC thanks for the response! I’m thinking I want to do it to XRT and XMAXX body. Hopefully it won’t add too much weight in the grand scheme. Great video!
Careful applying hot glue to those thin bodies. They can warp just from the temp of the glue if you glob it on.
Yeah I suppose if you used enough that might happen though it's never been a problem for me.
@@DoRC I did it on a 1/12 scale basher body a while back. Total noob mistake.. I was securing light wires with hot glue like it was a foam plane, instead of taping them. I didn't think it would warp, but it pretty much melted the plastic and caused a huge dent. Just a cautionary, not criticizing I like the cement tape idea
@@scaleworksRC ah. Okay yeah sometimes those smaller car bodies can be pretty thin. It also might have been PVC and not polycarbonate which has a lower glass transition temperature. That being said I'm sure it is possible to soften a polycarbonate body with hot glue it's just not something I've ever done :-)
So I did this with my WR8 and although it feels stronger, I don't like the smell of shoe goo lol. Do you know if it dissipates after some time? It's been about 3 days now. It is a lot less then when it was wet, which is what to expect from any glue.
Yes. Best thing to do is put it out in the sun and let it get nice and hot which will help bake off all of the volatiles. You can also set it in front of a box fan in your garage or outside overnight and the air movement will help a lot.
Actually, Notorious body is one of the thickest shells i've seen!
Its thicker even from the Savage's body.
I'd say the Notorious Body is just average. It's fine but nothing special. The new Kagama body is far superior.
Question what if you did your method then did gorilla tape over top?
I've never done it but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't make things stronger. You are definitely going to be running into diminishing returns at some point though and the body's going to end up pretty heavy.
Wonder if anyone has tried this but instead of the E6000 using the spray in bedliner or flex seal?
Yes it's been done. In my experience neither one of them works as well as e6000. I've heard a few get the professional spray in bed liners done they work really well but they're also extremely heavy.
is there a way to do this and paint body?
Sure if you paint the body first you can then reinforce it afterward. You'll want to make sure that the paint you're using doesn't have a bad reaction with the glue though as that does happen occasionally
@@DoRC ok, I was worried it wouldn't stick. I'll give it a go
@robertcase6475 It should stick just fine but again make sure it's not going to damage the paint.
@DoRC if it does oh well, it's to bash with anyways lol
@robertcase6475 That's definitely the right attitude :-)
That tabe did not stick to my body 🤷🏽♂️
The tape itself does not stick very well. You can use a little bit of hot glue in the corners to hold it in place while you apply the adhesive.
Btw run that thing on 3s. They really wake up
Yes it does! I wasn't even aware it would run on 3S when I made that video. I hadn't really messed with it much but I have now and it's a lot of fun!
Only if you are intent on crashing your RC on purpose. My on road RC cars i am definitely not going to run them like that, or crazy speeds, and no crazy speed turns which will inevitably lead to body shell damage .
Unless I'm testing something I don't crash my stuff on purpose but I do crash stuff all the time anyway. Reinforcing the body is a pretty simple and inexpensive way to make it last a lot longer than it would otherwise!
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oh dear, you crash all the time and not on purpose , oh dear oh dear. 🤣.
Don't get me wrong I take a lot of chances that end up in crashes but I don't do it on purpose Like I said unless I'm testing something.
For me unless I'm pushing the limits I'm not really having fun though so pushing those limits often ends in something going wrong.
It melted the paint off the inside of my stadium truck body
That's a bummer. I've heard of two other people who had that happen to them. It's really weird that most of the time it's not a problem.
Uhhhh instead of using the gloves to spread…. Just use a small paint brush
I've tried paint brushes before but they really don't work at least in my experience. The stuff's too thick and it just ends up globbing all over the brush and not really spreading out. What I have found since then is to use an old credit card or gift card. It works really really well.
Funny story.... Freaking e6000😮 cost $70-$100 dollars a frreaking glue ....😮
Now the tape i cant find it but jezzzz WTH is this mean cheap?
Where does it cost that much?
'5 mins?!' Closer to 5 hours than 5 minutes. This video is longer than 5 minutes.
Well the idea is that you learn to do it in 5 minutes and I get that it's not exactly 5 minutes long but it's also a TH-cam video so maybe a little bit of creative license is being employed. Thanks for watching :-)
I swear to God if this video tells me to use shoe g....MOTHER FU...
It doesn't. E6000!
NOT 5 min!
The video is 5 minutes long. That's what I meant. That being said I've done it enough times that I bet I could get pretty close to 5 minutes:)
Real fiberglass or carbon fiber and epoxy is best.
Really the best thing to do would be a 3D scan it and then have it milled from a solid block of titanium but at some point the weight and amount of time and effort involved are going to outweigh the benefits.
5 minutes? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 24 hour dry time liar
I meant the video is 5 minutes long :-)
First of all this won’t take 5 minutes.
Secondly, this is overkill and your body can and will still crack and detach from the rc body because it will rip off the paint away from the lexan.
Stay away from these guys and their fabulous ideas.
They only want likes and subscribes.
It's video that's 5 minutes long not the process :-)
I've been doing this for years on many bodies as of a lot of other people. It's very effective. It doesn't make the body indestructible but it certainly makes it last a lot longer.
This was not my original idea either. It's been around for at least a decade. Anyway thanks for watching and commenting :-)
@@DoRC
Damn man you made me feel bad about my comment.
The thing is that I’ve seen people do and I did try it myself on my first kraton body and when I crashed, all that stuff just ripped the paint right off. I’ve also done Raptor spray liner and the same thing happened. It’s the paint that’s the weak link.
@@Blankholes interesting. I've never really had a problem with it ripping the paint off. I've probably done this on 30 or 40 bodies over the years and I've never had that happen. I have seen a couple people mention it happening but it was on bodies that they painted themselves. Usually the factory screen finishes pretty tenacious
It sucks that you're experience with it was bad but I assure you I don't put any videos up about things I don't firmly believe in and do myself. I try to keep my channel as real as possible. Likes and subs are good but my integrity's worth more than any of that.