Here’s What it is Like to Live With The New 2023 Chevy Colorado (Hint: It’s Not What I Thought!)
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I think Chevy and your dealer dropped the ball on this. Cruise control is part of a 415 dollar package that also gives you a remote locking tailgate, rear defogger, sliding rear window, and cruise control.
I agree.
I think Chevy also dropped the ball not making cruise control a standard feature and locking it behind a package.
Andre's cruise control conversion will likely cost more than $415...
@@dboatright2497
I agree. They (GM) literally have one of, if not the most advanced semi-autonomous driving aids currently available to consumers. Yet in most of GM's fleet, adaptive cruise control isn't standard. This is outright theft for not making basic cruise control standard. Most of the Koreans and Japanese brands have made adaptive cruise control standard. This is despite not having a more advanced semi-autonomous driving aid. They are spitting in our faces for not making basic control standard.
😂🚫 the Colorado hood bulge is so fake. Like putting socks in your pants. The engine is TINY. 🤣🚫
Nathan and Andre should compare the Frontier Pro4X and Andre's Colorado TrailBoss! Since those are the Latest Generation MID Size Offroad Trucks out right now!
The Frontier is a better truck. Gm focuses on gadgets instead of quality.
@@Logjammer69 If the Nissan had a turbo, I'd agree with you. Just a bit underwhelming here at altitude
@@Logjammer69the frontier drives like shit and is slow and it has great features but there are so many buttons and knobs it’s like a rocket ship
New truck is cool. Not having cruise control would be a deal breaker for me. That blows my mind in 2023 that cruise control isn't standard. Just like A/C. It should be standard by now.
It's all about paying attention. I feel the same about committee options on the GMC. What is free for the Colorado, you have to pay $495 for the Canyon. And then you have a forced Onstar subscription. They nickel and dime you.... because as consumers, we allowed it. We demanded fluff features and now get stuck with option packages.
I think it's the stinking chip shortage, making things like cruise control that should be standard optional to save on micro chips
That is unbelievable but it does not have cruise control
@robertryan7204 They're charging for every little thing. I Went to the build and price tool, and they were charging $40 just for a front license plate bracket.
@Chris Marbrey stuff like that, I'm fine with. Not every state requires it. None of my vehicles have a front plate. So if they can lower the cost on items that people don't need and then charge those that want to add it, all good.
I get why people are miffed about the cruise control. But it's a work truck. Many WTs are bought for city use and companies don't care about the cruise control function if its being driven in city and short distances. The Trail Boss is the bare essentials with the lift for off road use. If you want cruise control, and most private buyers do, it's a $375 fee in the package. I get why GM did it.
Those who add everything on.... well... usually end up debating why they don't just get the Z71 or ZR2. Because that is what they are doing. It costs less for a reason.
A happy Andre makes for a good day! Few things can make a man smile like that and getting a sweet truck is one of them! 😁
I just ordered my Trail Boss, basically fully loaded, including cruise control.
I ticked every available option and it came out to 44,025. Lots of truck for the money - but still missing a lot for that price.
may I ask how much you paid for it? trying to figure out if i can get the dealer down to 38,000
About 43k which includes the destination charge
I have the swing out tool boxes. I didn't like them at first but after about a week I was happy with my purchase. They are very easy to pull out when you need the extra space
He’s got 300 miles already? Andrey’s been cruising! I hope you’re enjoying it, Andrey.
With andre’s contacts with the manufactures he should ask a GM engineer if it’s possible at add cruise control after the fact
Great shirt Nathan, the Ace of spades of TFL! btw the new Colorado trail boss looks great!
Thanks guys 👏👏👏 have a good day everyone
I added a leather steering wheel with radio controls to my 2020 Silverado Custom. I had to swap out the instrument cluster and run a wire for it to work but it was really simple and took 20 mins to install. Unsure what exactly is needed with the new Colorado but swapping a wheel would be a start since they have only one cluster available.
The dealer added cruise control doesn't change the steering wheel. It's on a short stalk behind the left side of the steering wheel.
My 2023 Canyon Denali landed on Tuesday and I picked it up last night. It's a huge upgrade over the second generation trucks :)
I have been waiting for this, Andre!
I love your new truck! Built several variations already online. Only wish you could get the winch kit like on the canyons and a LED headlight upgrade.
I know this is of course an old example but my 2005 wt Colorado didn't come with cruise control and I only needed to add the cruise control switch and it was plug and play. It didn't show up on the display but it still worked. A flash by gm and it would have showed up on the display but I didn't bother. Who knows, you may get lucky and it's plug an play, possibly reflash.
On Chevrolet Trax LS, Cruise Control was not standard. Found out it was software locked to the VIN, and even when the dealer would upgrade the steering wheel, the switches for Cruise would not be recognized by the Trax' computer. I hope your situation is different.
Can I suggest using a 'Dark' mode web browser behind you guys for better contrast on camera? And speaking of black interiors, the Honda Pilot Trailsport is an inky black hole inside....like a claustrophobic black cavern.
Do you have to check a box to get intermittent wipers? I remember when you would have to. Along with FM radio, tilt steering wheel, and mirror on the sun visors.
I’d love to see a price and features comparison between andres Colorado and the stubby ram. To show how far your money can get you in mid size and full size.
Just to let Canadians know the Canyon on ALL trims comes in with4x4 and high output engine on all trims. 4x2 only on the Colorado WT and maybe on the LT trim also
Its not your fault about the cruise control. $40,000 truck in 2023 that should be standard. I'm actually surprised its not for things like fuel economy ratings since most drivers would see best MPG with cruise control. I'm really interested in the new Colorado. If I sell a second car I have soon I may be looking to get one.
Wait for the new tacoc cruise stamdard
Crazy thing is I legit cannot remember the last time I actually turned on cruise control in either of my personal vehicles or my work one....
Take the owner of the LT Colorado and run it through your unloaded MPG loop alongside your Trail Boss with the mud terrains. I'm interested in the real MPG difference between the two.
Dude the color is my favorite part. The yellow is 🔥
Very cool vehicles fellas Really nice truck Andre
To get cruise on Andre's Trail Boss requires the ($375) TRAIL BOSS CONVENIENCE PACKAGE:
Manual sliding rear window
Rear window defogger
Cruise control
I'm surprised the Chevrolet app doesn't give you the range and remote start capabilities. I got vehicle diagnostics through my app for my Acadia by tapping the vehicle status section. And for my vehicles, I didn't subscribe to the OnStar services, but got the connectivity through the WiFi subscription only.
I’m sure that you could have an aftermarket cruise control installed, though it wouldn’t be “adaptive”. I had one put on a new Nissan Frontier a number of years ago.
Don't feel bad Andre, I forgot the tow package when I ordered my truck. Just got all happy and forgot.
XL 22 mavericks had no cruise, ford made it standard in 23.
It was a $300 or so project to add an escape steering wheel with cruise buttons or a stand alone stalk on the column that added cruise.
Ya I have the 2022 work truck I don't need all toy's it has the v6 with cruse control and trailer brakes and towing package its all good
Guys, love your work and content. Just a bit of feedback.
When you have videos that are 1h long, would be great to add timestamps, based on the topic discussed, so that we can jump to topics/subject of interest. Very few ppl can spend 1h watching an entire video and this would help a lot.
How much
On my 2017 Silverado the app for free for the life of my ownership as long as I used it a certain time frame, great! My new 2023 Silverado offer basic functions in app for 3 years but if I want all the stuff to work I have to pay and pay and pay again. Not sure I like that change but they have said they want to be a Technology company. I've owned 4 Chevy trucks sure wish you could recognize my brand loyalty with a better package for the tech necessary to fully realize the powerful things the truck can do.
❤The Colorado and Color are awesome!
Standard packaging can be very odd. I had a 2000 Chevy S10 Blazer ZR2 with auto headlights. I also had a 2015 Toyota RAV4 XLE with no auto headlights. Made no sense. Yet I still had cruise control haha.
They got that color from the movie Vertical Limit. The Nitro they use to blow up the snow leaks out ant it is that exact color. Really cool color. Would look good on a corvette also
Nathan is absolutely correct on the in-bed storage trunk. The Santa Cruz truck is dinky compared to Honda Ridgeline. You can fit luggage or actual ice cooler down inside Ridgeline. Something like a Igloo BMX cooler can fit in it with plenty of room.
I agree with the thoughts regarding pricing....vehicle prices are ridiculously high; however, people continue to pay far above MSRP. You get what you ask for.....
Nathan, I LMAO when you called the Ridgeline a Pilot..
There is nothing wrong with that other TH-cam reviewers say Ridgeline is the best version of the Pilot. Pilot,Ridgeline,Passport all siblings.
Not like Ridgeline isn't capable as pickup truck. The payload capacity larger than some full-size pickups.
@fredmoss4540 I'm sure it's a great vehicle. After all, it is a Honda.
Hey andrea i'm in the 12 volt aftermarket industry I have installed a lot of cruise controls there is a company called rostra They design cruise controls for many vehicle They can definitely help you out
The picture of the Colorado next to the Tacoma reminds me of a video where a guy had to put a stubby antenna on his 2nd gen Colorado because his garage has a low ceiling. I noticed that new condos have a tiny garage and now mid size trucks are getting a stock lift so will they fit in a modern garage with a low ceiling? My old vehicle had cruise control but when it stopped working I didn't get it fixed because it was a cheap car. Eventually I adapted to not having cruise control and don't even use it on my current vehicle. It may take a few weeks but you will become accustomed to driving without cruise control and then you won't even use it when you drive other vehicles.
I have a question for you guys. I have a 2021 ZR2. The exterior measurement says it is 72.5 inches. The 2023 AT4 ( which I just ordered) shows 79.80 inches height, but it is now measured from the top of the antenna….not the roofline. I added the 20 inch wheels, but how much taller ( or lower) is the 2023 AT4 when compared to the ZR2?? The ZR2 ( and AT4X) have a 3 inch lift kit, whereas the AT4 is only 2 inch.
Can you tell us if a reverse car seat fits in the Colorado?
I feel like it would be cheaper and easier to just trade it in for a like model with cruise. Youll have to wait a few months probably but in the end itll be much easier.
I have never had a truck, but feel like it would be good choice for my next vehicle. I dont tow, but do take on home improvement projects periodically. I would be all in on a midsized but we are a family of 4. Torn between a gladiator and something like a silverado. Would love to get Andres long term assessment coming from a full size to mid-sized and how much he misses the extra bed/room. Reason for Gladiator is it checks lots of boxes...convertible, truck, manual, 4x4.
Your might want to wait for redesign Honda Ridgeline. Not a sure how much hardcore off-roading rock crawling you'd do. It won't be convertible but checks alot of the boxes.
The Maverick not having cruise control was only for 2022. They introduced it for 23. I’m 99% sure if that. But then again the 22 MY was meant to be the lowest cost option so it made sense on the XL. Same as the now dead F150 XL 100A package. Where cruise control missing on your truck does not make sense.
BTW, Nathan, the Lemmy t-shirt is awesome!
In Mexico, the Hyundai Santa Cruz would compete against the compact Chevy S-10max that replaced the Chevy Tornado, which in Brazil its called the Chevy Montana.
Those tool boxes lift off the hinges, I have two of them on my 21 Colorado Z71.
One of the things I need to do is load a 13.7 ft. fishing kayak with a T tow extender in the bed. When I bought my new truck in 2017 I wanted a mid size truck with a long bed option as well as a crew cab. I ended up with a Colorado LT V6 4x4 crew cab long bed. I love almost everything about both of the new GM midsize trucks except the lack of a long bed. I have no desire to get another full size truck so if they don't plan to offer it it's a no go for me. The Tacoma and the Frontier both offer that option and we will see if Toyota still offers it on the new Tacoma when it comes out. I still really like my Colorado but when it comes time to replace it I will be looking for a long bed midsize truck.
May be buying used as other makers might go the same route and stop building long bed.
Same here - my Centennial Colorado is a crew/long box. My son has a the ext cab Ram - with a frame to level above the wheel hubs my truck is every bit a useable for working with significantly better fuel mileage. I love the look of the new Canyons and Collies, but no long bed is a deal-breaker for me.
@@brentwade9346 I came from a Nissan Titan king cab full size to the Colorado crew cab long bed midsize. Pretty much the same working bed space with a bigger cab and way better fuel economy. The Titan was nice but boy did it like gas.
Huge difference in the GMC Elevation is that there is NO 4 LOW!
The Colorados need to take a page from the 07-13 Silverado’s and make the back seats a floating style with nothing under it. My god, the room would be great. Come on GM!!!!
I like the Canyon AT4. In my opinion its what the trail boss should have been (a mix between the Z71 and Trail Boss). Even the Canyon Elevation is really nice but when you play with the configurator you notice that when you add the things you will want to the Elevation trim you are almost the same cost as the AT4.
This is why the trims are where they are at. Some don't want the fluff and want the bare essentials while avoiding the cost. Once you add on the fluff... you're left with: why not just get the z71 or 7r2? Or in the case of the Elevation.... why not just get the At4x?
True, I just ordered an Elevation fairly loaded. The AT4 similary optioned would have been I think 3 grand more.
@Jeremy Hulsey also to note, on the elevation, you don't get 4wd Lo. Just in case you would be one to use it. In the AT4, you do. I like interior of the Elevation more than at4.
I would think cruise is standard these days-especially on that level truck
Andrey always talking about how he's a techie but always getting base or lower models with no or little tech
Cruise Control should be standard. Period. GM should make good on this.
The poop icon over the Trail Boss headlight in the thumbnail...😂 No LED headlights in the Trail Boss is just one of the reasons I'm ordering a Canyon AT4.
The best option on the TB is the 360 cameras. The resolution is crazy good. I don't think you can get the pleather with it though on TB.
I saw someone else mention that upgrading the seat material locks you out of other options.
It does , completly irritating like they forced me to a a.z71 package lol.
@@davefornit6235 That's unfortunate, but you might be happier in the long run. The Z71 seems really nicely equipped.
I'm curious why Andre's TB has under hood insulation installed and every other one I see has bare metal. Did you order it or was that the substitution for no cruise control?
Nice shirt, Nathan!
You can upgrade to HO engine if you order the work truck with the plus engine.
I'm pretty sure that your going to have to go after market to install cruise control into your vehicle . From what I've done most fords where easy to install cruise control it was just install the switches into the steering wheel and then go to the computer and turn that feature on. Now a days they don't let us do that any more I've looked to see if the cruise control can be turned on but on the new trucks changes are that you may not be able to. Even though all the computer uses is just a signal from the switches and then the computer tells the vehicle to hold at what ever speed . But it sounds like your going to have to go old school and no cruise control
I can't blame Andre too much on forgetting CC. I'm more surprised on GM for not making that feature STANDARD.
I wonder if they will ever bring something back like the zq8 package like they had on the old s10
Your new truck is gorgeous. Does anyone make an almost clear bedliner? ✔✔
I think Nathan is enjoying the missing cruise control on Andre’s truck.
And the face the GMC for $1k more is a better deal. He told Andre... you F up!
i think that twin turbo ford made a believer out of Andre with turbos.
So im really curious there is a difference in fuel mileage between the chevy and gmc. Im curious if the the tune makes it drop that much more
Love the new truck!
That Trail Boss is based on the WT! That's why it does not have have cruise control standard.
Elevation doesn't have the 2 speed transfer case. No 4 low. Just 4 hi. To get that, I believe you have to go to the AT4. $45k
Should've kept your F-150 Powerboost
Nice table leaf that you're using for your desktop 😂😂😂😂
How is the transmission on the trailboss, did they really fix it ?
I wanna get a GMC Canyon Elevation or the AT4 I'm undecided on the colour. I like the Blue, but if it comes in the same yellow I might get that and I'll make sure I have cruise control.
I have the Hyundai BlueLink service on my 2020 Hyundai Kona. My complimentary 3 years of that service just came up for renewal. I was quoted $120 for both the BlueLink safety package and the remote start app (they are available a La carte if you don’t want both). That $120 price is a 40% discount for a year subscription. The app offers quite a bit and I keep BlueLink active as it will call for help in the event of an airbag deployment.
I think GM doesn’t have nearly the OEM products is because they don’t want to warranty the add-one’s plus if you put those aftermarket parts/ products on your vehicle they can cancel your vehicle warranty for having aftermarket products, components and add-on’s. Then dealership’s can refuse to fix your vehicle or charge you for the fix.
Waiting on Toyota to finally come out with their hybrid competitor to the Ford Maverick. Maybe Tocoma/SR5 styling but not sitting on the floor feeling. 45 mpg with a truck bed and some offroad trailing ability/maybe 4x4?
I seriously looked at ordering a new 2023 GMC Canyon. Seems like everything is an option. Price was very high for a mid size truck. Ended up getting a 2022 GMC Canyon AT4. My dealer gave me $5,500 off msrp. Extremely happy with truck.
58K otd??
😂🚫 the Colorado hood bulge is so fake. Like putting socks in your pants. The engine is TINY. 🤣🚫
What was the dealership? No one is taking off MSRP around me
@@RossMalagarie Johnsons. ⭐️⭐️ base Toyota crew 5ft bed v6 4x4 SR with CRUISE CONTROL at $34,500! And safety products. OR, access cab v6 4x4 6ft bed for $33500. Or v4 4x4 access cab at $31,500! ⬅️⬅️. I know Toyota will be more reliable and better resale. ALL HAVE CRUISE STANDARD!⭐️⭐️
@@RossMalagariehe did say 2022 year model. Not the new generation
Other Than the Lt which other trim has the LEDs?
Hey Andre - What's your philosophy on new truck engine break in???
I dig the color BTW
The 2023 xl maverick comes with cruise control wich is the most basic trim level and you dont need to add it
I’m seriously thinking about replacing my 2019 high country 1500 with the 6.2. This might sound crazy, but I’ve grown used to the heads up display. The AT4 has it as an option where the z71 Colorado isn’t
I remember My first new car out of college, the sales person told me that todays luxuries are tomorrows necessities
Ps. My digital rear view mirror is going to be missed.
After watching this video it seems like the Canyon Evolution makes FAR more sense than specing up a Trail Boss to $41,500. Unless you don't like the front end of the Canyon I suppose. This video gave me all the info I need to make the decision to order a Canyon.
Andre, can you get an aftermarket cruise control for your Trailboss?
I would love a comparison vs Tacoma and Ranger.
does the high output engine require higher octane fuel?
@Andre with more mid and refresh mid size pick up truck coming in 2024, do you regret getting the Colorado so early? If so, which truck you will think you will switch to?
How do we get the Z71 led headlamps on this trail boss???!!! Can’t believe we got halogens in 2023.
I love the Tacoma, and the new Nissan Frontier is nice, I like how square off it is, the Ford Ranger and Honda Ridgeline seem decent. I am liking the new Canyon and Colorado, the only thing I don’t like is how don’t have a actual headlight switch, other than that I really like the GM midsize trucks.
😂🚫 the Colorado hood bulge is so fake. Like putting socks in your pants. The engine is TINY. 🤣🚫
I just went from a Tacoma to a Frontier. Loved the Taco but the Frontier is so nice to drive, and seems very well made too.
@@Brickbattery Nissan needs to bring back the Xterrra
Does the elevation offer the 2 speed transfer case?
Andre the 2023 Maverick does have cruise control standard.
Changing steering wheel is simple especially on F250
From what I can tell the Trail Boss is just the work truck with the off road equipment. It is similar to the Silverado Custom Trail Boss, basic but off rad capable. That is why it doesn’t have cruise standard.
Yes, It's a budget off-road-truck. It was decontented in base form to keep the MSRP as low as possibe...
Where can I see those pictures of the Santa Cruz, Colorado, and Tacoma next to each other?
No cruise control is insane I would be so pissed
I have GM and Hyundai and after 1 month I had to start paying for the remote start service. That's just Unlock and lock and remote start thats it.
Hyundai the app came and services came with the car and it's free. Don't have to pay a dime. And it shows you everything and let you do everything from gas to start to climate and set perimeters where the car and go and can't go. All of that.
Also forgot to add. I can use my phone with NFC and it is basically the key. I don't have to have the actual key and use my phone and hold it to the handle and it will lock and unlock and once I get I'm put it in the wireless charger and the car starts.
All FREE!
I realize it’s more expensive but Andrey could have ordered the Canyon AT4 with no options other than his yellow color, the MT tires, and the trailering package and got a much better interior, standard CC, the HO engine, and standard safety package for 47,200. It would have still been under 50k and he wouldn’t already be feeling buyer’s remorse.
What do u guys think about subaru bringing back the pick up maybe called baja