I really appreciate the accessability of having the chime when the motion sickness warning is over! Even though I don't have to worry about it, that is an amazing way to handle it and I hope to continue seeing that from you and elsewhere!
Ignorant comment here but do you just get nauseous with motion sickness or is there a chance to get a seizure? I get the flashing lights warning that might trigger a seizure but I'm not familiar with the motion sickness side effects. Do you end up running to the bathroom and puke or is it more ominous?
I was going to go and comment on this actually, I get motion sickness quite easily from high speed constant motion (that covers too much of my field of view) and I was soooo glad when they showed that, I used my peripheral vision to see what they meant and yeah, I probably would have had to look away anyways. so yeah thank you for that, also in my case the only thing would be I would get really dizzy and have to go lie down for a bit, or it might even trigger my positional vertigo. So nothing life threatening like a seizure warning, but also not something I'd like to experience.
@@Shorty15c4007 For me personally if it builds up too much it's a long-lasting nausea and overall just disoriented feeling, body temp feels off like I have a fever, and sometimes a bad headache. I guess body just overall goes into "I'm sick" mode for a while.
Follow a single point as it rotates. Find a leaf or tree and then follow it. Bam, should be good. That's how ice skaters keep from going dizzy in spins and it works to help stave off motion sickness. When you just stare aimlessly as a spinning image that's when some people's brains check out.
@@SpartanGuy it’s okay lol, you’re probably never gonna talk to anyone in this comment section ever again. We’re literally on a floating rock and are gonna die in like 60 years sooo
The auto input switching being off by default makes sense as there was a huge outcry when their smart TVs came out with it. PlayStation/Switch would "wake" for updates and switch to their respective input in the middle of watching TV/a movie OR turn the TV on.
Yeah, but thats a dumb explanation from Sammy why it Autoswitching is off standard. Because the Auto input switch should ONLY work if NO Picture is shown at the moment, so there would be no problem. But thats to heavy vor Sammy ^^
@@MitchellTheMitch Also depends on the game. A 20 year old game could probably run at 8K 120hz no problem on current mid-range hardware, and Doom Eternal for example may be possible at 8K60, if not now then with next gen GPUs. But a game that is not well optimised will not even run at 4K60 on an RTX 3090.
Nowadays there are pretty cheap and decent 4k monitors compared to when it launched, once 8k hit mainstream next year or so i believe we will be able to afford 4k 60+
What issues does DSC introduce? I thought it didn’t introduce any artifacts, though not lossless? Regardless 4k@240 doesn’t seem possible with 10 bit color or 4:4:4 (or both). Maybe I’m wrong, but I’d care much more about those. DSC is a good feature IMO.
I got a first gen QLED curved monitor with terrible backlight leaks, and I'm not interested in this, 'cause I can't pay for it. With that in mind I think the reason you're interested might have nothing to do with Samsung's "range of monitors", but with your width of pocket.
Man, I paid 2.5K for the PG27UQ back when it launched. 1.5K for THIS is like a frigging dream. Love how technology evolves and things become more affordable over time. I guess the QD-OLED panels appearing with such prices also helped with pricing. I'll seriously consider this one if mine ever dies!
@@TorrellesEdit I got my x27 on eBay very gently used for $800 about two year ago I couldn’t believe it. I love when people are like “pfft 4K hdr isn’t even worth it” like bud try seeing CP2077 on ultra ray tracing at 4K 98hz😂
@@Absolutjeff Damn, that's a great bargain! I bet most people who say this haven't paired such monitors with a capable GPU to really take proper advantage of them hehe
@@TorrellesEdit So I’ve been looking everywhere, I found a site that said the neo g8 supports g-sync but Samsungs official page only says Freesync premium pro. From my fifteen minutes of research it seems like I want to stick with g sync, is any of what I just said true or did I misread?
127 fps out of 240 with the best GPU bench you had on hand. Count yourself lucky if the 4090 does 170 fps in SOTTR (4k ultra) when it drops. It will take two generations to catch up with this monitor.
ever heard of people that like to play singeplayer games on ultra and multiplayer fps games on low anyway ? 240 fps is possible in 4k in a lot of games already, and with the rumored next gen performance its definitly not going to be a problem anymore 😁
240 you won't notice difference anyway,Just placebo...An 120 hz OLED is better than 240 Hz VA cause the response time should be 1ms...Check level1 tech reviews
@@teskript4605 yes - most people comment as if all games are like older consoles with no ability to change graphical settings. No one with any sense is expecting max frame rate at 4K ultra settings.
Still really worried about scan lines that a large amount of Samsung Odyssey monitors have had, including mine. Hope they can get their QA better, main problem for me right now.
I was able to snag this g8 at my local microcenter ready to return it in case of scanlines/dead pixels but I’m pleasantly surprised that I seem to have gotten a good unit. If you can find it locally and price is no object, I say try it because it is Hands down the best monitor I have ever used compared to 1080p 360hz, 390hz and 1440p 270hz. Obviously price and the pc you’re running and the games you play will decide whether or not you should pull the trigger.
Hey Linus, in case you were curious Samsung has been putting "Color Display Unit" on their monitors for decades. I have a 21 year old Samsung LCD that says just that on the label.
I got the Alienware QD OLED early on before it became unavailable everywhere. I was considering waiting for this, but I don't regret my purchase, I am extremely happy with it.
@@nathanbraun2067 Samsung Electronics and Samsung display aren't the same company. Also there is no 32" QD Oled panel. They make them in 35" 21:9, 55" 16:9 and 65" 16:9, that's it.
@@nathanbraun2067 Samsung group is made up of many different companies. The company that makes the panels is not the same company that makes the consumer displays.
To me it seems like the selling point for this monitor is the 240hz. I'm a console gamer and I purchased the lg 42 c2 and I'm completely blown away by how the games look and play coming from a 32 curved benq monitor.
I'm glad Linus had the same issue trying to get the display running at max refresh rate. I just bought a G7 and it took me about 10 minutes to figure out how to get it to appear as 240hz capable on windows.
then you buy that monitor and notice firmaware of the monitor in right light then you say to your self that you will never buy samsung monitor ever again :) (like me)
At this point I already have a "good enough for me" VA-panel ultrawide monitor. My threshold for an upgrade is going to be a more attainable QD-OLED 1440p ultrawide.
Got two of these units. First one had a black line/blemish in the matte finish. Looked like a scratch but wasn't. Distracting. The second one has a dead pixel right in the middle of the panel. The QC at the plant manufacturing these units is awful. I don't mind spending $1K on a nice piece of kit IF it's actually NICE. Get it together SAMSUNG!
@@prashantmishra9985 Thats a shame. I really hate that with my TV that I've been using as a monitor. I'm looking for a 32 inch 4k 120+hz monitor with G-sync that will be decent for PC and console gaming.
@@BionicSammich Plenty of 144 Hz 4k monitor variants including panel with IPS tech are available. Things only get crazy when you demand 4k 240 Hz. Give it some time to mature, 2-3 years should do it.
OLED better blacks. G8 better brightness. Burn-in. Size. Curve. Done. Edit: I take it back. I tried the Neo G7 and it's not much brighter than my CX if at all. Returned it and went with a 38GN950. Worse blacks/contrast but everything else is better imo
QD-OLED & the OLED are better visually but most gamers are obsessed about peak brightness & max fps. This screen is great for ... Counter Strike. Ok bye bye
@@cody8860 QD OLED is subpar for non-gaming usage because the text looks really bad. Like on a 720p screen. If I had to pick one screen for both work and play I would prefer that over the qd oled alienware. More ppi, 16:9, brighter.
OLED is literally the worst display technology for gaming. You want low latecny pixel response with very low pixel persistence. OLED is the worst display in those categories. OLED is best for movies and TV, while modern LED is best for gaming.
Considering that it costs 1500 euros in Germany it’s actually cheap, others displays with 4K micro led cost double without beeing curved or having 240 hz
Being curved shouldn’t be a feature that costs more anyway. It’s just personal preference, I would rather have a flat panel but would be pissed to pay more for either one style of display. But damn those 240Hz Grüße auch aus Deutschland ✌🏻
@@Draenal Majority of VA panels are curved because they're easier to produce and are cheaper than their flat VA counterpart Edit: the main reason is VA has inferior viewing angles compared to IPS
@@RSUnicorn I personally can't stand the poor viewing angles of VA. Move your head a bit too much and that superior contrast goes out the window along with any color saturation. QD-OLED on the other hand was an eye opener. Looks exactly the same from even the most extreme angles. For LCD my preference is always IPS.
Seems like yesterday Linus talked about wanting a 240 4k monitor. And now we're here and not some Chinese Kickstarter but a reputable brand. Can we just say that Samsung is really making some great products lately? Their SSD's are one of the best you can get for great prices also.
Part of the reason they can keep SSD prices super competitive is they're vertically integrated. The major components on their SSD (NAND, DRAM, Controller) are made by them. It's less expensive when you don't have to source your components from another vendor that also needs to make their profit. That and Samsung makes some high quality flash and controllers that it's quite common to see Samsung DRAM, NAND, and controllers in a bunch of other SSDs and DRAM modules. Similarly, this is also why Crucial (Micron) is able to have great value SSDs.
@@drunkhusband6257 21:9 is kinda the sweetspot for most things imo. But one day I'll have a stacked monitor setup with a 32:9 on the bottom and 21:9 on top.
@@GroteGlon I just couldn't go back to 21:9 it feels like you are missing so much space in games. Really the only problem with it is that the very edges of the screen slightly stretch the image.
The 1440p 240Hz G7 is the best monitor I've ever used in nearly any context. This looks like a worthy upgrade but I still don't see any reason to move to 4k over 1440p yet.
I would really hope for DisplayPort 2.0 for the next gen graphics cards coming out. Since DP 1.4 only supports 4k 120hz I am assuming there is some fudging going on their. Would love some feedback.
correct, neither HDMI 2.1 or Displayport 1.4 can display 4k 120hz, they have stream compression to force going up to 240hz, so its not a genuine 4k 240hz experience. Might as well just run it at 4k 120hz. Also, it doesnt genuinely run at 4k 120hz as HDMI 2.1 but as glorified HDMI 2.0 currently (can change with a firmware update) but the PS5 and XBOX series X does not run 4k 120hz with this monitor currently. so yeah. I would just go with the LG C1 or C2 for the price. really cant beat an OLED
@@tymtrppr3 You said everything right, right up until you suggested a OLED LG c-series for gaming. OLED is inherently flawed for low-latecny activates. Huge pixel persistence and high pixel response times on OLED, even the most modern stuff, HDTVTest (who is also a big fan of the LG c-series) talks about this frequently. You want modern LED for gaming, and OLED for movies. I'd also argue against the c-series that is now getting a bit old when the Sony Bravia A95K exists and absolutely DUSTS anything LG has put out. Even Samsungs new S95B puts the C-series to shame now.
To me, the selling point of this monitor is the mini-led. The 240hz is a marketing gimmick, but I’ll just run it at 120hz and be happy. That’s still plenty smooth unless your a competitive gamer. Oled is good too, but 42 inches is just too large for a desktop environment, which is the smallest currently available.
@@TheRelen222 I do agree with you that above 120hz is probably wasted on me. I just like the idea of 4k, 120hz+, 10 bit color, 4:4:4 chroma sub sampling, with no Display Stream Compression, HDR 2000, HDR10+, Dolby Vision, HLG . It would check all the boxes until long into the future. I am still using a Dell U2410f, so I am looking for a new monitor. If I am spending $1500 to $2500, I want something that will last me into the future like my current setup has.
So I bought this monitor a while ago at a ridiculously low price believing it to be a massive bargain. Unfortunately, in my multi-monitor setup its firmware seemed to struggle and slow down to a crawl over time until it was eventually unusable. Meaning that it took so long to power on that I was waiting literal minutes. I ended up having to send it back. If you could do some tests with a multiple monitor system to ensure that they've fixed whatever the firmware issues were, I would appreciate it, because otherwise it was a beauty of a monitor.
I will never suggest a Samsung Odyssey monitor until they fix the firmware on all of the previous ones. Like it's been years and they still haven't fixed the scanlines on both G9 and G9 Neo.
I don't think it's possible to fix it via firmware. They're just driving the panels too hard in terms of refresh rate and response times. In general scanlines/pixel inversion gets worse with higher refresh and more aggressive overdrive
@@Lead_Foot Thats the weird part, there are no scanlines at custom resolution of 165Hz until you enable VRR, but at 240hz with it on or off there are scanlines. The best I can get it to look is set to 120hz in osd, custom resolution at 165hz, VRR disabled, adaptive sync on. In that config there are no scanlines at all. Set to 240hz mode you can't make custom resolutions so I can't test further.
I have the 32' G7, and ho boy, been waiting for this. I have a 3090 system to run it so I do very often see 240fps in games at 1440p, but I know I can push 4k 240fps in lots of the shooters I play. I am 100% ordering this right now.
I have a 49" Ultrawide curved from Samsung, and i like it very much, the only thing that bothers me extensively is the fact that the UI doesn't have a way to specify an input directly. If you choose source it cycles through all available inputs and stops whenever it finds a signal. Don't know how they came up with this.
thanks for that motion sickness warning. i dont get motion sickness at all yet linus rotating the screen while doing the spins in game actually disoriented me for a split second...caught me off guard
As a current owner of a 32" G7, I can say that the 1000R is definitely fine in person but I would much rather have a curve that's less dramatic. That being said, because the 34" Alienware dropped at $1,300...this price isn't very attractive.
I agree, but if you want 4k240hz and a bright asf monitor, this is the better buy. I prefer inky blacks and great color accuracy to peak brightness and resolution tho. Especially if you have a lower end gpu.
@@huttonberries768 resolution & brightness vs contrast as well as response time vs refresh rate is not an objective discussion tbh.. The alienware has a terrible panel coating that makes the blacks look grey in anything other than a pitch black room as well.
@@jeremyg9305 yeah idk why tf they would try a more matte coating versus just full gloss. Oled needs gloss to look its best. Really hope Samsung and MSI’s monitors use a different coating. Don’t want them all to be copy and paste, even if they do use the same base panel.
@@nesatbilgin655 Not using this for gaming. I have connected this to my development machine, which is a MacBook Pro M1 Pro. Might get a gaming rig later, if I feel like, so I don't think I can answer your questions just yet.
When next gen Nvidia gpus come out, I think they should do a video to see if they can make a workstation with enough power that would trip a standard NA circuit breaker.
@@CodeVenomSnakes Spoken like someone who has never gamed in a 21:9 screen. 16:9 vs 21:9 is like 4:3 vs 16:9. Wider FOV is just way better for gaming no matter what.
@@CodeVenomSnakes QD-OLED is superior to VA + Mini-LED because OLED is able to turn off individual pixels while Mini-LED has to turn off zones to mimic only a fraction of OLEDs power. I've used 21:9 monitors since 2017. Unsupported games are EXTREMELY rare, & able to be counted with a single hand. 21:9 actually gives an advantage as more information is displayed on-screen allowing for faster target acquisition compared to 16:9 monitors.
Linus' last comment on the gpu and monitor affordability did bring up one good point.. Most budget builds on TH-cam only bring up the pricing for the pc tower and take out the monitor or kb and mouse.. Even the latest LTT 1000usd build video is guilty of it.. And I know I know people will say we'll reuse the old monitor and other stuff... But that's not always the case... And also isn't it better to suggest an monitor that's perfect for the current config at least and mention how much it will cost us in addition to the pc budget?? For eg. this build will include a 3070 and an i5... Now your best bet is to go for a 1440p monitor/4k monitor at 144hz or plan a 360hz fhd one if you want fps advantage...
I'm looking for a PAIR of 32 Inch monitors that are 4k, support HDR to a good standard (ideally 1000) - does the curve here limit its use as a monitor to pair up, or do people have a better choice for my requirements?
There are tons of options, but the Samsung Odysseys are the best displays for gaming in the world. Using displayninja to find 32" 4k HDR1000 displays, your options are: Acer X32 32" 3840x2160 IPS 160Hz 1000 576 G-SYNC Ultimate ASUS PA32UCR 32" 3840x2160 IPS 60Hz 1000 576 None ASUS PG32UQXE 32" 3840x2160 IPS 165Hz 1000 576 G-SYNC Ultimate ASUS ProArt PA32U 32" 3840x2160 IPS 60Hz 1000 384 None Dell UP3221Q 32" 3840x2160 IPS 60Hz 1000 2000 None HP Omen 32u 32" 3840x2160 IPS 165Hz 1000 576 G-SYNC Ultimate LG 32GQ950 32" 3840x2160 IPS 160Hz 1000 FreeSync Premium
@@Raivo_K Pretty sure the 2k nits is in a smaller portion of the screen, and probably for a limited amount of time. Fullscreen 1200 nits is already insane tho
A big thank you for the motion sickness warning! I accidentally watched for half a second and got borderline sick to my stomach so watch away and heard the “ding” and just continued watching all good!
Problem is, that if you also want to be able to play at 1440p with higher fps, you need a 240 hz monitor. I will probably buy it, because I want to be able to play at 4k with nice fps but also able to play shooters at 1440p with +200 fps. And I don't want to "switch monitors" between a 240 hz 1440p and a 144hz 4k monitor. But yeah, you probably won't be able to reach 240 fps at 4K with current Hardware.
@@soghotze idk...currently I game on a 165hz 2k monitor... and I previously owned a 1080p 240hz before that... not much of a diference... buttery smooth yeah...but I didn't notice a huge change from 240 to 165hz... in my opinion 🤓
@@b-lou296e was testing out the “switching” functionality of the monitor. PS5 is connected via HDMI 2.1 and then he connected the PC’s DisplayPort cable so the switching functionality would appear on the Monitor’s menu (OSD).
@@omarfmercado what I’m saying like he connected the DisplayPort into the pc you can see that which means how did he get the DisplayPort into the ps5 because I know they accept a DisplayPort am I wrong or what because at the end he literally connects the DisplayPort and says it and than the ps5 turns on lol😂 right ??
True story: I was intoxicated last night and was trying to buy this, turns out I bought 3 and I’m trying to contact customer support to return 2 of them
Not sure what peoples thoughts are on this, but this is AMAZING, it's a HUGE step forward in this and a 240hz 4k monitor is exactly what I have wanted for quite some time now. So in a few years time every company will be making one of these, and the prices will lower, and the technology will get better. This monitor is the first step in what we have for the future. I'm running on 1080p 240hz right now and as much as I want 4k, I will be waiting until this is more of a standard and get one
Samsung monitors have certainly gone a long way. I've got a CFG70 from like 2017 (I think?) and it's a good monitor apart from the fact that I've had to send it in for repairs three times. Sucks they're so expensive, but even still I feel like the $300 I spent on my 1080p144 monitor was more than worthwhile to the point where I'll probably keep it for several years to come
It is a bit of a parabolic curve I suppose. Around a decade before that in 2007 or so Samsung was also on of the solid choices when choosing a monitor. In fact my first flat monitor (coming from CRT) was a Samsung Syncmaster 2253BW with a resolution of 1680x1050 which coming from a 4:3 CRT monitor was a huge upgrade.
I bought G9 Neo, one of the biggest buyers remorse in my live, if not actually the biggest one. So MANY bugs it's hard to describe them all, but most annoying ones: - Switching between inputs is a chore - Monitor waking up after inactivity does not activate the USB HUB - often requires power off and on again, to stop "artifacting" after switching inputs - only one input allows full resolution despite the fact that secondary (HDMI) inputs could do it just on lower refresh rate
Nah, mine had none of that. A lot of my frienda upgraded to it too and have been enjoying it. Best monitor we have had tbh. For average users, I think the Samsung Smart Monitor M8 is best.
I just don’t get it why don’t samsung make a productivity monitor with a mini led and high refresh rate , color accurate with minimal design with type C that competes with pro display xdr and studio display?
Agreed, my Oddysey G7 is ghosting, unless you turn on dynamic dimming, but then the whole screens dims, when white object, like subtitles, appear. Also G7 sometimes restarts itself, very annoying. And no, firmware upgrades did not help, yet...
@@tazboy1934 not sure what you mean here. Hardware Unboxed and Rtings reviewed the G7 and G9 and they're both excellent despite being VAs. And there are flat VA panels, so this is a weird stance. Linus also said it was IPS in the video I think, but I'd have to confirm.
To everyone who's considering buying this monitor: Sadly the Neo G8 has a very severe scanlines problem at 240Hz! I am a gamer at heart and for gaming this monitor really delivers, it's just amazing! But I'm also doing tons of image and video editing. So I was looking for a "jack of all traits" monitor and this video had me convinced the Neo G8 would be such a display. But the scanlines that are very visible, particularly in the blue tones, make it practically useless in Photoshop - at least at 240 Hz. When you disable adaptive sync and lower the refresh rate to 120 Hz, the problem *almost* goes away, but still it's not great. Also for most Adobe application, if you're running at 240Hz with adaptive sync on, you'll have to disable adaptive sync for the Adobe apps in your driver, or you'll get constant screen flashing. So unless you're okay with having to switch around a bunch of monitor settings between using this display for gaming or for creative work, this really isn't a jack of all traits monitor. But it's a damn fine gaming monitor! Hope this helps some of you. :)
Just excitedly googled this, it appears it's the Original G7 that's around that price, which is QHD not UHD (which is still nice). So going from 1440p to 4k with those refresh rates is making the price tag make more sense haha. The Neo G7 is still over 1k
A suggestion to LMG, for the first couple of minutes in the video and also some time ahead, because the screen is tilted a little bit away from the camera it gives a bad impression of the display. I get that sometimes it’s necessary but it’s better of an experience when the footage was directly filmed. THERE WAS A LOT OF DIFFERENCE ( not a hater, love all you guys at LMG keep it up guys!)
@@CodeVenomSnakes Why get "the best of both worlds"? The best of all worlds is available and it's OLED. edit: also VA gamma shift is the most distracting problem I've ever experienced on a monitor.
Its really cool companies send you stuff. I'm broke as hell and nothing seems to be getting better here in Ontario. Miss my nerd days..investing in video cards and gaming monitors
Specs? They look great. The reality? This monitor only hits 2000+ nits on test patterns. You won't see over 1200 or so in any real content. It will show scanlines at 240hz. You will have some level of flickering issues in some situations. You will see overdrive artifacts, at least when using VRR. Sometimes quite extreme ones. The HDR EOTF tracking is utterly fudged as well, as is typical with Samsung, so it is not tracking as it should, and you will not see HDR content anywhere near how it was meant to be displayed. This is just the issues that are known of as well. These monitors, as with the rest of the Odyssey series, are a mess. Avoid them.
I have a 2021 qn95a mini led tv and the brightness is unreal, sometimes when watching something dark and moody at night for an hour two going back to the satellite menu that’s all bright actually makes you wince it’s so bright.
OLED also still has burn-in risk, which is amplified on a PC monitor that likely will be displaying static objects (ie menu bars, browser search bars, etc.) for long periods of time. LED monitors don't have this risk, so the mini LED tech used here is a big deal.
I am using 4k 144hz gor years with the latest GPUs and am suprised that there are still many people that say that 240hz is overkill for 4k especially with the 4080 and 4090 on the horizon. In many games I am having around 200 fps in 4k already you just have to reduce the shadows and what not you don't really even see a difference in all ultra vs high settings in 4k.
sounds good on paper but has a ton of cons in reality check out hardware unboxed video on its identical little brother Neo G7 and see just how many cons this thing packs for such a premium price anyone with $1500 is far better off getting the Alienware QD Oled
But 21:9 is a deal breaker for some if not most people as ultrawide compatibility with games is okay at best with a lot of games (especially esport ones) zooming the game and then cutting top and bottom bars. Sidenote is that ultrawide is great for productivity thou definitely beats 16:9 in most cases
The G7/G8 are literally unmatched in their category tho. Even with the issues HUB mentioned. I ain't getting an ultrawide, I don't have space for it anyway.
I watched the Hardware Unboxed video, and the inpression I got was that, despite some nitpicks here and there, its a great monitor. As for the Alienware monitor, it being an ultrawide is a deal breaker, as I tend to play retro and console games. And I don't want to deal with OLED burn fears. That said, I thing the neo g7 is a lot more interesting than this, as I see no benefit from 240 hz that could joustfy the difference on price.
You would only gain variable overdrive but lose HDMI 2.1 ports because of it. Oh and dont forget the fan cooling the gsync module that gets noisy after a year or so.
One persistent problem I have had with the Odyssey Neo G8 is that it won't allow booting in HDMI 2.0. You either have to boot in HDMI 1.4 and then switch to HDMI 2.0 or (oddly) open the OSD and then reboot. I have seen this annoying quirk mentioned elsewhere. Happens with all cables, many graphics card and systems. The OSD is not that easy to get to (like if you have a soundbar or longer fingernails).
I have an older samsung ultrawide, and it has the same OSD interface, including the auto local dimming and calibration report and stuff, can update firmware from USB as well, and have a few times with no issues. It's actually really robust, it's good to see they haven't gotten rid of it.
I know its not really apples to apples comparison, but Neo G8 for $1500 vs the LG C1 48" OLED TV for $800? Which would you pick assuming you *could* spend the extra cash on the G8 if it was THAT much better but would always prefer to save some cash if its not that huge of a jump. Assume I have enough GPU power for both monitors. Also, please explain why you chose what you chose! Thanks!
I just placed my order for a Alienware QD OLED today and it was suppose to arrive in a little over 2 months.. yeah, best buy can get the G8 to me in 4 days, I'll go with this instead. Btw, these monitors already have a 200 markdown in price, so they 1300 now.
I really appreciate the accessability of having the chime when the motion sickness warning is over! Even though I don't have to worry about it, that is an amazing way to handle it and I hope to continue seeing that from you and elsewhere!
Ignorant comment here but do you just get nauseous with motion sickness or is there a chance to get a seizure? I get the flashing lights warning that might trigger a seizure but I'm not familiar with the motion sickness side effects. Do you end up running to the bathroom and puke or is it more ominous?
I was going to go and comment on this actually, I get motion sickness quite easily from high speed constant motion (that covers too much of my field of view) and I was soooo glad when they showed that, I used my peripheral vision to see what they meant and yeah, I probably would have had to look away anyways. so yeah thank you for that, also in my case the only thing would be I would get really dizzy and have to go lie down for a bit, or it might even trigger my positional vertigo. So nothing life threatening like a seizure warning, but also not something I'd like to experience.
@@Shorty15c4007 For me personally if it builds up too much it's a long-lasting nausea and overall just disoriented feeling, body temp feels off like I have a fever, and sometimes a bad headache. I guess body just overall goes into "I'm sick" mode for a while.
as a person who suffers from motion sickness and vertigo I highly appreciate when channels do it!
Follow a single point as it rotates. Find a leaf or tree and then follow it. Bam, should be good. That's how ice skaters keep from going dizzy in spins and it works to help stave off motion sickness.
When you just stare aimlessly as a spinning image that's when some people's brains check out.
I'm gonna call every Samsung monitor from now on a "Color Display Unit". Thanks Samsung!
Now when people say that's their CPU and point at their monitor they're technically correct.
Edit: I'VE REALIZED MY MISTAKE BUT I WON'T EDIT IT OUT
@@SpartanGuy Nah, its CDU not CPU
@@aw1lt well I'm embarrassed.
@@neondemon5137 yeah no I messed up
@@SpartanGuy it’s okay lol, you’re probably never gonna talk to anyone in this comment section ever again. We’re literally on a floating rock and are gonna die in like 60 years sooo
The auto input switching being off by default makes sense as there was a huge outcry when their smart TVs came out with it. PlayStation/Switch would "wake" for updates and switch to their respective input in the middle of watching TV/a movie OR turn the TV on.
Up until now I hate it when I turned on my TV and PS5 get turned on and automatically switch input
Yeh because Nintendo and Sony are trash, not the auto input switching feature.
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Yeah, but thats a dumb explanation from Sammy why it Autoswitching is off standard. Because the Auto input switch should ONLY work if NO Picture is shown at the moment, so there would be no problem. But thats to heavy vor Sammy ^^
@@imartyficationv.276Turn off HDMI Link in your ps5 settings
Had mine for a couple weeks and I love it , been waiting for years to get a 32 inch 4k non ultra wide , gsync 240 .. it’s everything I wanted
Worth it definitely
It's almost 1 year since you got it, are you still happy about it?
@@adojckI'm using it and absolutely
@@adojckjust got it yesterday and I love it. Runs destiny 2 at 4k 240 fps and it’s beautiful
@@JeffMen103No scan line issues?
I remember when high contrast, HD flat panels were going for nearly 20K dollars. 1.5k dollars for a 4k with better everything isn't too bad really.
Ah yes the mesolithic era
I think I'll be able to afford a panel like this when 8k @ 1000hz will be the standard
I think you will see 8k monitor in the year 2030. the gpus that can run 8k are not a thing yet.
@@CodeVenomSnakes every gpu can handle 8k. It's just how well it can do it, you know?
@@MitchellTheMitch Also depends on the game. A 20 year old game could probably run at 8K 120hz no problem on current mid-range hardware, and Doom Eternal for example may be possible at 8K60, if not now then with next gen GPUs. But a game that is not well optimised will not even run at 4K60 on an RTX 3090.
@@CodeVenomSnakes there's already 8k monitors on the market 😶 just not gaming spec.
Nowadays there are pretty cheap and decent 4k monitors compared to when it launched, once 8k hit mainstream next year or so i believe we will be able to afford 4k 60+
Man I love this thing, the only thing I'm kinda bummed about is the DP connector not being 2.0, cause well DP 1.4 needs DSC for the 240hz in 4k
Does that make a different.
@@CodeVenomSnakes yes
What issues does DSC introduce? I thought it didn’t introduce any artifacts, though not lossless? Regardless 4k@240 doesn’t seem possible with 10 bit color or 4:4:4 (or both). Maybe I’m wrong, but I’d care much more about those. DSC is a good feature IMO.
same with 240hz in 1440p
well it has hdmi 2.1 tho
The fact I have a G9 and am still interested in this monitor is a testament to how diverse Samsung's range of monitors is
Me too. I love my g9 for work, but for gaming I just don't like it. This one should be amazing. Might give it a go.
Same lol
its more of a testament of how much disposable money you have
I got a first gen QLED curved monitor with terrible backlight leaks, and I'm not interested in this, 'cause I can't pay for it.
With that in mind I think the reason you're interested might have nothing to do with Samsung's "range of monitors", but with your width of pocket.
Just wait for qd oled to become mainstream, no monitor is worth it now imo
Man, I paid 2.5K for the PG27UQ back when it launched. 1.5K for THIS is like a frigging dream. Love how technology evolves and things become more affordable over time. I guess the QD-OLED panels appearing with such prices also helped with pricing. I'll seriously consider this one if mine ever dies!
Is that the brother of the x27? The 4K 144 from 2018?
@@Absolutjeff Yes! The Asus ROG one
@@TorrellesEdit I got my x27 on eBay very gently used for $800 about two year ago I couldn’t believe it. I love when people are like “pfft 4K hdr isn’t even worth it” like bud try seeing CP2077 on ultra ray tracing at 4K 98hz😂
@@Absolutjeff Damn, that's a great bargain! I bet most people who say this haven't paired such monitors with a capable GPU to really take proper advantage of them hehe
@@TorrellesEdit So I’ve been looking everywhere, I found a site that said the neo g8 supports g-sync but Samsungs official page only says Freesync premium pro. From my fifteen minutes of research it seems like I want to stick with g sync, is any of what I just said true or did I misread?
127 fps out of 240 with the best GPU bench you had on hand. Count yourself lucky if the 4090 does 170 fps in SOTTR (4k ultra) when it drops. It will take two generations to catch up with this monitor.
ever heard of people that like to play singeplayer games on ultra and multiplayer fps games on low anyway ? 240 fps is possible in 4k in a lot of games already, and with the rumored next gen performance its definitly not going to be a problem anymore 😁
240 you won't notice difference anyway,Just placebo...An 120 hz OLED is better than 240 Hz VA cause the response time should be 1ms...Check level1 tech reviews
I don’t think any CPU around this time can consistently push over 200fps in SOTTR.
@@teskript4605 yes - most people comment as if all games are like older consoles with no ability to change graphical settings. No one with any sense is expecting max frame rate at 4K ultra settings.
@@mbsfaridi I doubt a current 8 Core 16 thread CPU is going to be the bottleneck in any game.
Still really worried about scan lines that a large amount of Samsung Odyssey monitors have had, including mine. Hope they can get their QA better, main problem for me right now.
I'm sorry
My old g7 32 240hz had it too. It was really distracting.
My Odyssey G9 has scanlines. I will never ever buy another Samsung monitor. Price range of Odyssey monitors and the quality doesnt match.
im glad my g7 doesent have scanlines
I was able to snag this g8 at my local microcenter ready to return it in case of scanlines/dead pixels but I’m pleasantly surprised that I seem to have gotten a good unit. If you can find it locally and price is no object, I say try it because it is Hands down the best monitor I have ever used compared to 1080p 360hz, 390hz and 1440p 270hz. Obviously price and the pc you’re running and the games you play will decide whether or not you should pull the trigger.
Hey Linus, in case you were curious Samsung has been putting "Color Display Unit" on their monitors for decades. I have a 21 year old Samsung LCD that says just that on the label.
I got the Alienware QD OLED early on before it became unavailable everywhere. I was considering waiting for this, but I don't regret my purchase, I am extremely happy with it.
why is samsung's own monitor not have the qd oled?
makes no sense
@@nathanbraun2067 Samsung Electronics and Samsung display aren't the same company. Also there is no 32" QD Oled panel. They make them in 35" 21:9, 55" 16:9 and 65" 16:9, that's it.
I believe it cannot so HDR2000 (or HDR1400 if you only consider real existing standards).
@@nathanbraun2067 Samsung group is made up of many different companies. The company that makes the panels is not the same company that makes the consumer displays.
@@nathanbraun2067 their qd oled is coming it's the g8qnb
To me it seems like the selling point for this monitor is the 240hz. I'm a console gamer and I purchased the lg 42 c2 and I'm completely blown away by how the games look and play coming from a 32 curved benq monitor.
I'm glad Linus had the same issue trying to get the display running at max refresh rate. I just bought a G7 and it took me about 10 minutes to figure out how to get it to appear as 240hz capable on windows.
It's not in the manual?
@@shinyhappyrem8728 probably but who actually reads manuals? :^)
A nice monitor. I like the firmware ui. More manufacturers should copy this.
If everyone does the same thing it wont look good anymore
The OSD doesn't support DDC/CI software and that's bad
The reason Samsung does it is because they ship with crap firmware with bugs. Then try to fix the bugs later.
@@disguisedcat1750
No dumbasz.
If everyone eats peanut butter, that doesn't mean it ll.suddenly.start tasting bad.
Lmao 🤣.
then you buy that monitor and notice firmaware of the monitor in right light then you say to your self that you will never buy samsung monitor ever again :) (like me)
I wish I was rich too
Or at least big enough that companies send you free stuff
How much does it cost?
Uh this is actually okay pricing for ultrawides..
We all do my man:'(
Same bro same
At this point I already have a "good enough for me" VA-panel ultrawide monitor. My threshold for an upgrade is going to be a more attainable QD-OLED 1440p ultrawide.
It's good to know what you want. I see too many people who just buy things even when something else would've been better for their usage
Then you should take a look at the upcoming g8qnb
@Jarred Kiser good look at the samsung g8qnb
I used to use a VA ultrawide too but the ghosting on dark objects was really distracting for me
Got two of these units. First one had a black line/blemish in the matte finish. Looked like a scratch but wasn't. Distracting. The second one has a dead pixel right in the middle of the panel. The QC at the plant manufacturing these units is awful. I don't mind spending $1K on a nice piece of kit IF it's actually NICE. Get it together SAMSUNG!
Does it suffer from black smearing like most VA panels?
@@BionicSammich Of course it will. No amount of local dimming is saving that
@@prashantmishra9985 Thats a shame. I really hate that with my TV that I've been using as a monitor. I'm looking for a 32 inch 4k 120+hz monitor with G-sync that will be decent for PC and console gaming.
@@BionicSammich Plenty of 144 Hz 4k monitor variants including panel with IPS tech are available. Things only get crazy when you demand 4k 240 Hz. Give it some time to mature, 2-3 years should do it.
@@prashantmishra9985 No it really doesn't. I hate when people who don't have things speak up.
David pronouncing Forza correctly made me so happy.
I really wanted a comparision of this against the QD-OLED!
OLED better blacks. G8 better brightness. Burn-in. Size. Curve. Done.
Edit: I take it back. I tried the Neo G7 and it's not much brighter than my CX if at all. Returned it and went with a 38GN950. Worse blacks/contrast but everything else is better imo
QD-OLED & the OLED are better visually but most gamers are obsessed about peak brightness & max fps. This screen is great for ... Counter Strike. Ok bye bye
@@cody8860 QD OLED is subpar for non-gaming usage because the text looks really bad. Like on a 720p screen. If I had to pick one screen for both work and play I would prefer that over the qd oled alienware. More ppi, 16:9, brighter.
this is not a review video
OLED is literally the worst display technology for gaming. You want low latecny pixel response with very low pixel persistence. OLED is the worst display in those categories. OLED is best for movies and TV, while modern LED is best for gaming.
I need to say that I love the motion sickness audible chime. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS!
Your crew is banging out content. Keep it up.
That's literally never changed for years on this channel. You new here?
Just a couple minutes ago I ticked off all the features I want in my dream monitor and this popped up as the only option. Yes, time to get more money.
Lol probably best to watch an actual review of this monitor, might make you rethink that get more money thought
I was so goddamn happy and excited when he said overcooked cuz I thought nobody was playing it any more but his "just kidding" hit me really hard
Considering that it costs 1500 euros in Germany it’s actually cheap, others displays with 4K micro led cost double without beeing curved or having 240 hz
Being curved shouldn’t be a feature that costs more anyway. It’s just personal preference, I would rather have a flat panel but would be pissed to pay more for either one style of display. But damn those 240Hz
Grüße auch aus Deutschland ✌🏻
It's very cheap in the UK as well when compared to other mini led monitors. I worry about Samsungs quality problems though
@@didaer260 curved displays are more prone to breaking, thus they have lower yields and are more costly to produce.
@@Draenal Majority of VA panels are curved because they're easier to produce and are cheaper than their flat VA counterpart
Edit: the main reason is VA has inferior viewing angles compared to IPS
@@RSUnicorn I personally can't stand the poor viewing angles of VA. Move your head a bit too much and that superior contrast goes out the window along with any color saturation. QD-OLED on the other hand was an eye opener. Looks exactly the same from even the most extreme angles. For LCD my preference is always IPS.
Seems like yesterday Linus talked about wanting a 240 4k monitor. And now we're here and not some Chinese Kickstarter but a reputable brand.
Can we just say that Samsung is really making some great products lately? Their SSD's are one of the best you can get for great prices also.
Minus the gigantic QC issues that constantly plague their monitors. And I mean constantly.
@@VaydaladaVodalada what is qc?
Part of the reason they can keep SSD prices super competitive is they're vertically integrated. The major components on their SSD (NAND, DRAM, Controller) are made by them. It's less expensive when you don't have to source your components from another vendor that also needs to make their profit. That and Samsung makes some high quality flash and controllers that it's quite common to see Samsung DRAM, NAND, and controllers in a bunch of other SSDs and DRAM modules.
Similarly, this is also why Crucial (Micron) is able to have great value SSDs.
@@AlanPayne. quality control
@@VaydaladaVodalada never have had a problem and I've used their monitors for years on end
This is the gaming that I wanted 4k, curved display, very bright mini led, and high refresh rate.
At this point “time to get more money” is a scheduled part of the day.
What's the g-sync range here? The compatible models don't have 1-240hz g-sync range, unfortunately....
Great monitor, but for the price I would go ultrawide either the Alienware 34 OLED or a nice 38
yeah I would love a monitor with these specs but unfortunately I'm ruined and can't ever go back to 16:9
@@GroteGlon 16:9 is trash compared to 21:9 or 32:9......having a 32:9 it's hard to even go back to 21:9
@@drunkhusband6257 21:9 is kinda the sweetspot for most things imo. But one day I'll have a stacked monitor setup with a 32:9 on the bottom and 21:9 on top.
@@GroteGlon I just couldn't go back to 21:9 it feels like you are missing so much space in games. Really the only problem with it is that the very edges of the screen slightly stretch the image.
32" is the perfect size for a center screen if you are also doing 2 more 32" 60hz oled panels or if you're just going to have 2+ monitors in general.
The 1440p 240Hz G7 is the best monitor I've ever used in nearly any context. This looks like a worthy upgrade but I still don't see any reason to move to 4k over 1440p yet.
Hell yeah the g7 1440p 240hz is insane
I love the G7 too. Moving over to 4k might be justified with the next gen graphic cards.
4k is great for productivity, but unnecessary for gaming (for now)
yeah, i really have to lean into the screen to even notice 1440. love my g7 and dont think ill get 4k anytime soon.
that is up to you and what games you play.
I would really hope for DisplayPort 2.0 for the next gen graphics cards coming out. Since DP 1.4 only supports 4k 120hz I am assuming there is some fudging going on their. Would love some feedback.
correct, neither HDMI 2.1 or Displayport 1.4 can display 4k 120hz, they have stream compression to force going up to 240hz, so its not a genuine 4k 240hz experience. Might as well just run it at 4k 120hz. Also, it doesnt genuinely run at 4k 120hz as HDMI 2.1 but as glorified HDMI 2.0 currently (can change with a firmware update) but the PS5 and XBOX series X does not run 4k 120hz with this monitor currently. so yeah. I would just go with the LG C1 or C2 for the price. really cant beat an OLED
@@tymtrppr3 I was unable to comprehend this explanation about halfway through... I really hate cables
@@tymtrppr3 You said everything right, right up until you suggested a OLED LG c-series for gaming. OLED is inherently flawed for low-latecny activates. Huge pixel persistence and high pixel response times on OLED, even the most modern stuff, HDTVTest (who is also a big fan of the LG c-series) talks about this frequently. You want modern LED for gaming, and OLED for movies.
I'd also argue against the c-series that is now getting a bit old when the Sony Bravia A95K exists and absolutely DUSTS anything LG has put out. Even Samsungs new S95B puts the C-series to shame now.
To me, the selling point of this monitor is the mini-led. The 240hz is a marketing gimmick, but I’ll just run it at 120hz and be happy. That’s still plenty smooth unless your a competitive gamer. Oled is good too, but 42 inches is just too large for a desktop environment, which is the smallest currently available.
@@TheRelen222 I do agree with you that above 120hz is probably wasted on me. I just like the idea of 4k, 120hz+, 10 bit color, 4:4:4 chroma sub sampling, with no Display Stream Compression, HDR 2000, HDR10+, Dolby Vision, HLG . It would check all the boxes until long into the future. I am still using a Dell U2410f, so I am looking for a new monitor. If I am spending $1500 to $2500, I want something that will last me into the future like my current setup has.
So I bought this monitor a while ago at a ridiculously low price believing it to be a massive bargain. Unfortunately, in my multi-monitor setup its firmware seemed to struggle and slow down to a crawl over time until it was eventually unusable. Meaning that it took so long to power on that I was waiting literal minutes. I ended up having to send it back. If you could do some tests with a multiple monitor system to ensure that they've fixed whatever the firmware issues were, I would appreciate it, because otherwise it was a beauty of a monitor.
Theres an option for faster starts
It's probably best to watch the HUB review for a full breakdown, cause this monitor has a lot of issues.
I noticed the negative thumbnail for that video, so will watch that next, cos I am seriously considering this monitor.
I will never suggest a Samsung Odyssey monitor until they fix the firmware on all of the previous ones. Like it's been years and they still haven't fixed the scanlines on both G9 and G9 Neo.
I don't think it's possible to fix it via firmware. They're just driving the panels too hard in terms of refresh rate and response times. In general scanlines/pixel inversion gets worse with higher refresh and more aggressive overdrive
Because you didn’t paid for sponsored review 😂
@@Lead_Foot VA is cheap panel so have crazy issues and they can’t fix it.
@@Lead_Foot Thats the weird part, there are no scanlines at custom resolution of 165Hz until you enable VRR, but at 240hz with it on or off there are scanlines. The best I can get it to look is set to 120hz in osd, custom resolution at 165hz, VRR disabled, adaptive sync on. In that config there are no scanlines at all. Set to 240hz mode you can't make custom resolutions so I can't test further.
I've got no such problems with my G7
I have the 32' G7, and ho boy, been waiting for this. I have a 3090 system to run it so I do very often see 240fps in games at 1440p, but I know I can push 4k 240fps in lots of the shooters I play. I am 100% ordering this right now.
Well, a month later! How is it? What are the frames like?
If it weren’t for my fear of scanlines that so many Samsungmonitors have, I would be interested in this one.
Im on my 2nd Neo G8 unit.
Dead pixel + scanlines in 1st unit, even worse scanlines in second unit. Avoid like the plague.
I have a 49" Ultrawide curved from Samsung, and i like it very much, the only thing that bothers me extensively is the fact that the UI doesn't have a way to specify an input directly. If you choose source it cycles through all available inputs and stops whenever it finds a signal. Don't know how they came up with this.
thanks for that motion sickness warning. i dont get motion sickness at all yet linus rotating the screen while doing the spins in game actually disoriented me for a split second...caught me off guard
I'm surprised Linus didn't remember you have to set the monitor refresh rate on the monitor itself, just like the G9 and G9 Neo.
exactly my thoughts, he used these monitors before personally!
It's really dumb that it isn't already set out of the box.
I wonder how this differs to the QD-OLED Alienware AW3423DW, and which one would be worth buying over the other?
Do not buy oled. Burn in after 1 year of static desktop i guarantee it!
@@Joshua-uq9zw it’s not oled, its qd-oled
As a current owner of a 32" G7, I can say that the 1000R is definitely fine in person but I would much rather have a curve that's less dramatic.
That being said, because the 34" Alienware dropped at $1,300...this price isn't very attractive.
I agree, but if you want 4k240hz and a bright asf monitor, this is the better buy. I prefer inky blacks and great color accuracy to peak brightness and resolution tho. Especially if you have a lower end gpu.
Alienware is OD-Oled and Samsung G8 Neo is Mini led.
@@ian.williamson the Alienware is objectively better tbh
@@huttonberries768 resolution & brightness vs contrast as well as response time vs refresh rate is not an objective discussion tbh.. The alienware has a terrible panel coating that makes the blacks look grey in anything other than a pitch black room as well.
@@jeremyg9305 yeah idk why tf they would try a more matte coating versus just full gloss. Oled needs gloss to look its best. Really hope Samsung and MSI’s monitors use a different coating. Don’t want them all to be copy and paste, even if they do use the same base panel.
Just got this monitor. Absolutely LOVE it.
Any scanlines or issues?
No, I didn’t get any issues yet
Thx for the quick reply 👍, just two other questions if it's ok. Which graphic card are you using ( average fps ) and if you play on console how is it?
@@nesatbilgin655 Not using this for gaming. I have connected this to my development machine, which is a MacBook Pro M1 Pro. Might get a gaming rig later, if I feel like, so I don't think I can answer your questions just yet.
Oh ok still thx for reply :)
I loved when the video went ultrawide and instantly filled my (ultrawide) screen! Nice, editor!
When next gen Nvidia gpus come out, I think they should do a video to see if they can make a workstation with enough power that would trip a standard NA circuit breaker.
I cant express how badly I want to see that xD
So, Linus thinks VA is superior to QD-OLED? And 16:9 is better than 21:9?
VA is not the problem. Mini led vs QD-Oled monitor and also 16:9 is better because more games use 16:9.
@@CodeVenomSnakes Spoken like someone who has never gamed in a 21:9 screen. 16:9 vs 21:9 is like 4:3 vs 16:9. Wider FOV is just way better for gaming no matter what.
@@CodeVenomSnakes QD-OLED is superior to VA + Mini-LED because OLED is able to turn off individual pixels while Mini-LED has to turn off zones to mimic only a fraction of OLEDs power.
I've used 21:9 monitors since 2017. Unsupported games are EXTREMELY rare, & able to be counted with a single hand.
21:9 actually gives an advantage as more information is displayed on-screen allowing for faster target acquisition compared to 16:9 monitors.
@@kajurn791 yes this truth but I mostly play esport games that not support 21:9 as well or none at all.
32:9 is beautiful, and great for Apex. But compatibility can suck. I mean even Far cry 6 doesn't even support it and is zoomed in 😡
If Samsung made an Odyssey themed PC case/Prebuilt that would be cool
they do not make desktop pc.
I agree it would be cool to have a case with complimentary theming.
I bought one of these… he’s not kidding, this monitor is insane.
2:17 had me rolling under the table LOL. Now that's some pure Linus appreciation.
Linus' last comment on the gpu and monitor affordability did bring up one good point.. Most budget builds on TH-cam only bring up the pricing for the pc tower and take out the monitor or kb and mouse.. Even the latest LTT 1000usd build video is guilty of it.. And I know I know people will say we'll reuse the old monitor and other stuff... But that's not always the case... And also isn't it better to suggest an monitor that's perfect for the current config at least and mention how much it will cost us in addition to the pc budget?? For eg. this build will include a 3070 and an i5... Now your best bet is to go for a 1440p monitor/4k monitor at 144hz or plan a 360hz fhd one if you want fps advantage...
Having seen the Hardware Unboxed proper review of the 165hz version this one is going to be the best gaming monitor period.
As long as you get lucky and don’t get one with scan lines covering the screen.
they just trashed this one so...no
@@DavidFregoli
They didn't trash anything at all.
@@theoldpcgamer77 Yes they did, the scanlines were pretty bad and 240 Hz isn't worth the extra cost for most people.
@@s4nder86
People complained about the G7 odyssey 1440p 240hz and i never had a problem with it.
vertical curved monitors look a little weird imo.. but its cool
It's good for looking at chat if ur a streamer. Thats about it.
I'm looking for a PAIR of 32 Inch monitors that are 4k, support HDR to a good standard (ideally 1000) - does the curve here limit its use as a monitor to pair up, or do people have a better choice for my requirements?
There are tons of options, but the Samsung Odysseys are the best displays for gaming in the world.
Using displayninja to find 32" 4k HDR1000 displays, your options are:
Acer X32 32" 3840x2160 IPS 160Hz 1000 576 G-SYNC Ultimate
ASUS PA32UCR 32" 3840x2160 IPS 60Hz 1000 576 None
ASUS PG32UQXE 32" 3840x2160 IPS 165Hz 1000 576 G-SYNC Ultimate
ASUS ProArt PA32U 32" 3840x2160 IPS 60Hz 1000 384 None
Dell UP3221Q 32" 3840x2160 IPS 60Hz 1000 2000 None
HP Omen 32u 32" 3840x2160 IPS 165Hz 1000 576 G-SYNC Ultimate
LG 32GQ950 32" 3840x2160 IPS 160Hz 1000 FreeSync Premium
0:19 ''samsfong sponsored this video''
For $1500 I'd rather get the Alienware QD Oled. I know this hits 2k nits and is 4k, but true blacks and 0.1ms are just too good to pass up.
The only advantage this has is 240Hz at 4K. The 2000 nits part is marketing. Real world is 1200 nits.
@@Raivo_K Pretty sure the 2k nits is in a smaller portion of the screen, and probably for a limited amount of time. Fullscreen 1200 nits is already insane tho
@Ops Blac That's the first thing i do on a new monitor. Factory brightness is absurd even on a 400 nits standard monitor.
This video: watch 11 minutes of Linus *not* comparing the G8 with the AW3423DW
Can you make a video to compare it to the Sony inzone m9
A big thank you for the motion sickness warning! I accidentally watched for half a second and got borderline sick to my stomach so watch away and heard the “ding” and just continued watching all good!
Just got the Neo G7 for $800 on Amazon during BF... awesome deal *-*... and no scanline issues there... + 4K @ 165hz... way more than enough
Problem is, that if you also want to be able to play at 1440p with higher fps, you need a 240 hz monitor. I will probably buy it, because I want to be able to play at 4k with nice fps but also able to play shooters at 1440p with +200 fps. And I don't want to "switch monitors" between a 240 hz 1440p and a 144hz 4k monitor.
But yeah, you probably won't be able to reach 240 fps at 4K with current Hardware.
@@soghotze idk...currently I game on a 165hz 2k monitor... and I previously owned a 1080p 240hz before that... not much of a diference... buttery smooth yeah...but I didn't notice a huge change from 240 to 165hz... in my opinion 🤓
I’ve been playing at 4K 160hz HDR (limited, but very nice) and it’s game changer!. Now I can’t wait to go back to 240hz, but now at 4K.
On your ps5 ??
@@b-lou296 PC
@@omarfmercado by any chance do you know where did he put that DisplayPort1.4 near the end of video I know one side goes to the monitor ????
@@b-lou296e was testing out the “switching” functionality of the monitor. PS5 is connected via HDMI 2.1 and then he connected the PC’s DisplayPort cable so the switching functionality would appear on the Monitor’s menu (OSD).
@@omarfmercado what I’m saying like he connected the DisplayPort into the pc you can see that which means how did he get the DisplayPort into the ps5 because I know they accept a DisplayPort am I wrong or what because at the end he literally connects the DisplayPort and says it and than the ps5 turns on lol😂 right ??
Would’ve been cool to see and hear Plouffe’s thoughts since he does most of the other monitor impressions these days. Just for some consistency
True story: I was intoxicated last night and was trying to buy this, turns out I bought 3 and I’m trying to contact customer support to return 2 of them
😂😂😂🎉
Got mine! It will be here Friday! Can’t wait!
Share your experience after a year of using or did you sell it?
@@russ3190 hey, no I ended up returning the monitor a week later and bought the AW3423DW. Now I own the AW3225QF
Not sure what peoples thoughts are on this, but this is AMAZING, it's a HUGE step forward in this and a 240hz 4k monitor is exactly what I have wanted for quite some time now. So in a few years time every company will be making one of these, and the prices will lower, and the technology will get better. This monitor is the first step in what we have for the future. I'm running on 1080p 240hz right now and as much as I want 4k, I will be waiting until this is more of a standard and get one
Samsung monitors have certainly gone a long way. I've got a CFG70 from like 2017 (I think?) and it's a good monitor apart from the fact that I've had to send it in for repairs three times. Sucks they're so expensive, but even still I feel like the $300 I spent on my 1080p144 monitor was more than worthwhile to the point where I'll probably keep it for several years to come
It is a bit of a parabolic curve I suppose. Around a decade before that in 2007 or so Samsung was also on of the solid choices when choosing a monitor. In fact my first flat monitor (coming from CRT) was a Samsung Syncmaster 2253BW with a resolution of 1680x1050 which coming from a 4:3 CRT monitor was a huge upgrade.
good monitors? so that's why you sent them to repair 3 times
On monitors like this it'd be nice to know how scaling is when it comes to consuming non-4k content.
Wait was this the monitor where you can stack 3 screens on top of each other?
I bought G9 Neo, one of the biggest buyers remorse in my live, if not actually the biggest one.
So MANY bugs it's hard to describe them all, but most annoying ones:
- Switching between inputs is a chore
- Monitor waking up after inactivity does not activate the USB HUB
- often requires power off and on again, to stop "artifacting" after switching inputs
- only one input allows full resolution despite the fact that secondary (HDMI) inputs could do it just on lower refresh rate
Nah, mine had none of that. A lot of my frienda upgraded to it too and have been enjoying it. Best monitor we have had tbh. For average users, I think the Samsung Smart Monitor M8 is best.
@@SeoWoojin55 Are you having G9 or G9 Neo?
I just don’t get it why don’t samsung make a productivity monitor with a mini led and high refresh rate , color accurate with minimal design with type C that competes with pro display xdr and studio display?
All those amazing stats and it's a VA panel so ghosting will be rampant. Also it's Samsung so expect firmware issues.
Agreed, my Oddysey G7 is ghosting, unless you turn on dynamic dimming, but then the whole screens dims, when white object, like subtitles, appear. Also G7 sometimes restarts itself, very annoying. And no, firmware upgrades did not help, yet...
Looks amazing, but not QD-OLED...
If they made these in flat panel I might actually be interested. Love the specs, hate the curve.
Its va
@@tazboy1934 not sure what you mean here. Hardware Unboxed and Rtings reviewed the G7 and G9 and they're both excellent despite being VAs. And there are flat VA panels, so this is a weird stance. Linus also said it was IPS in the video I think, but I'd have to confirm.
@@Gunks_ Its va
@@Gunks_ Its va, the same video says it, ga
I'm with you on this one. It looks amazing. I might like a curved screen in certain situations, but I just prefer flat screens most of the time.
I got mine a few weeks ago.. I love it!!! Gotta ay with so.e game settings to make sure you get the performance and when you do... AMAZING!!
My Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 model says made in Mexico and its the NNXGO version . 0 issues out of it
To everyone who's considering buying this monitor: Sadly the Neo G8 has a very severe scanlines problem at 240Hz! I am a gamer at heart and for gaming this monitor really delivers, it's just amazing! But I'm also doing tons of image and video editing. So I was looking for a "jack of all traits" monitor and this video had me convinced the Neo G8 would be such a display. But the scanlines that are very visible, particularly in the blue tones, make it practically useless in Photoshop - at least at 240 Hz. When you disable adaptive sync and lower the refresh rate to 120 Hz, the problem *almost* goes away, but still it's not great. Also for most Adobe application, if you're running at 240Hz with adaptive sync on, you'll have to disable adaptive sync for the Adobe apps in your driver, or you'll get constant screen flashing. So unless you're okay with having to switch around a bunch of monitor settings between using this display for gaming or for creative work, this really isn't a jack of all traits monitor. But it's a damn fine gaming monitor! Hope this helps some of you. :)
You can get the g7 for like $500 now, I don’t know that this would be that much of an upgrade to justify 3x the price, still super cool to look at
I dont think youve ever seen proper hdr.
I don't think this is meant for people who look at price tags.
I am not sure but apparently the G7 (neo) got a refresh with the same tech, just at 165Hz instead of 240Hz (look at the G75NB 32")
Just excitedly googled this, it appears it's the Original G7 that's around that price, which is QHD not UHD (which is still nice). So going from 1440p to 4k with those refresh rates is making the price tag make more sense haha. The Neo G7 is still over 1k
As soon as LG or Asus makes a 240hz 4k screen that isn't ultrawide or curved and is actually a good monitor I am buying instantly
Has this for over a year now and it’s amazing. Got a g7 AG700 28 inch in portrait too
A suggestion to LMG, for the first couple of minutes in the video and also some time ahead, because the screen is tilted a little bit away from the camera it gives a bad impression of the display. I get that sometimes it’s necessary but it’s better of an experience when the footage was directly filmed. THERE WAS A LOT OF DIFFERENCE ( not a hater, love all you guys at LMG keep it up guys!)
Only the fact that it's VA not IPS killed it for me
>ips
>gray instead of black
>yellow instead of white
>hurrdurr
I might get it VA because VA best of both worlds. VA give you image as ips and speed like a TN. It is a great middle ground for the 4k 240hz.
@@CodeVenomSnakes Why get "the best of both worlds"? The best of all worlds is available and it's OLED.
edit: also VA gamma shift is the most distracting problem I've ever experienced on a monitor.
@@burrowingduck it is up to you and VA Is fine for me.
Its really cool companies send you stuff. I'm broke as hell and nothing seems to be getting better here in Ontario. Miss my nerd days..investing in video cards and gaming monitors
Must be hard being a rocket test pilot cowboy with no time for such trifling things as video games.
I appreciate the warnings about motion as somehow I’m good with heights and roller coasters but VR and certain screens just make me hurl.
TH-cam played an ad right about at 7 mins into the video. I thought all channels at LTT were immune to that sorta thing. Or am i wrong?
im confused. He says IPS but the text overlay says VA. Am I missing something?
he just said it wrong its a VA display that is why the text fix it in post
Specs? They look great.
The reality? This monitor only hits 2000+ nits on test patterns. You won't see over 1200 or so in any real content. It will show scanlines at 240hz. You will have some level of flickering issues in some situations. You will see overdrive artifacts, at least when using VRR. Sometimes quite extreme ones. The HDR EOTF tracking is utterly fudged as well, as is typical with Samsung, so it is not tracking as it should, and you will not see HDR content anywhere near how it was meant to be displayed.
This is just the issues that are known of as well. These monitors, as with the rest of the Odyssey series, are a mess. Avoid them.
VA panel and curved is not in anyone's dream specs.
Why is this not QD-OLED? You'd think a "dream" gaming monitor that has everything would include the latest tech.
QD-Oled can't reach 240hz nor 2000nits yet iirc. But yes, this with QD-Oled would be even more amazing.
@@arashi7693 Ah that explains it! I’d be happy with sub-240hz and 1000 nits 😃
I have a 2021 qn95a mini led tv and the brightness is unreal, sometimes when watching something dark and moody at night for an hour two going back to the satellite menu that’s all bright actually makes you wince it’s so bright.
OLED also still has burn-in risk, which is amplified on a PC monitor that likely will be displaying static objects (ie menu bars, browser search bars, etc.) for long periods of time. LED monitors don't have this risk, so the mini LED tech used here is a big deal.
Hopefully some time soon we'll see the same specs but in a 27" flat panel
I am using 4k 144hz gor years with the latest GPUs and am suprised that there are still many people that say that 240hz is overkill for 4k especially with the 4080 and 4090 on the horizon. In many games I am having around 200 fps in 4k already you just have to reduce the shadows and what not you don't really even see a difference in all ultra vs high settings in 4k.
I have a benq xl32 zowie (1440p@144hz) next to my G7 (1440p@240hz), and the difference is night and day.
I consider the QD Oled from Alienware to be THE gaming monitor, not this VA Panel.
Well Samsung also makes the panel for that
@@-SP. I know, doesn't change a thing.
sounds good on paper but has a ton of cons in reality
check out hardware unboxed video on its identical little brother Neo G7 and see just how many cons this thing packs for such a premium price
anyone with $1500 is far better off getting the Alienware QD Oled
But 21:9 is a deal breaker for some if not most people as ultrawide compatibility with games is okay at best with a lot of games (especially esport ones) zooming the game and then cutting top and bottom bars.
Sidenote is that ultrawide is great for productivity thou definitely beats 16:9 in most cases
The G7/G8 are literally unmatched in their category tho. Even with the issues HUB mentioned. I ain't getting an ultrawide, I don't have space for it anyway.
I watched the Hardware Unboxed video, and the inpression I got was that, despite some nitpicks here and there, its a great monitor.
As for the Alienware monitor, it being an ultrawide is a deal breaker, as I tend to play retro and console games. And I don't want to deal with OLED burn fears.
That said, I thing the neo g7 is a lot more interesting than this, as I see no benefit from 240 hz that could joustfy the difference on price.
I feel for $1300 it should have native Gsync.
You would only gain variable overdrive but lose HDMI 2.1 ports because of it. Oh and dont forget the fan cooling the gsync module that gets noisy after a year or so.
Lol VA also
Native gsync monitors usually go closer to 2k than 1k
@@joeykeilholz925 Samsung make mostly VA screen.
One persistent problem I have had with the Odyssey Neo G8 is that it won't allow booting in HDMI 2.0. You either have to boot in HDMI 1.4 and then switch to HDMI 2.0 or (oddly) open the OSD and then reboot. I have seen this annoying quirk mentioned elsewhere. Happens with all cables, many graphics card and systems. The OSD is not that easy to get to (like if you have a soundbar or longer fingernails).
I have an older samsung ultrawide, and it has the same OSD interface, including the auto local dimming and calibration report and stuff, can update firmware from USB as well, and have a few times with no issues.
It's actually really robust, it's good to see they haven't gotten rid of it.
Another sponsored useless videos, you forgot to talk about skylines at 240hz, and Samsung fake marketing about 2000 nits peaks....
Nice removing the "Showcase" from the title, if I want to watch an 11 minute add I'd watch TV, also 00:07 the answer is scanlines and not existent QC.
When are y'all going to make a video with this monitor and the 4090???
I have been looking at C1 and Neo G9 after spending all of my money on a 3090 and this Neo G8 added to the mix doesn't help my decision-making.
I know its not really apples to apples comparison, but Neo G8 for $1500 vs the LG C1 48" OLED TV for $800? Which would you pick assuming you *could* spend the extra cash on the G8 if it was THAT much better but would always prefer to save some cash if its not that huge of a jump. Assume I have enough GPU power for both monitors. Also, please explain why you chose what you chose! Thanks!
I just placed my order for a Alienware QD OLED today and it was suppose to arrive in a little over 2 months.. yeah, best buy can get the G8 to me in 4 days, I'll go with this instead.
Btw, these monitors already have a 200 markdown in price, so they 1300 now.