They are just begging for trouble not including display port HDMI cables. You know people out there are going to try to use their HDMI 1.3 and display port 1.1 cables that may or may not compatible with this monitors resolution and refresh rate. They are going to get a lot more RMAs than if they had included those cables.
They won't get many RMAs. They'll get store/retailer returns. Consumers won't have to go through the RMA process because it'll be a problem from the beginning, and will be returned to the retailer. The retailer will either RMA it if it is warranted, or send it for inspection and repacking in remanufactured packaging. People that return stuff because they don't like it, or for any other fault of their own, like a wrong cable, are scum bags. Amazon needs to tighten up their return process.
While I agree with both of you in theory, there are too many people who don’t know / don’t care, they don’t know that their old trust HDMI cable that worked just fine with their PS3 for years isn’t good enough for the new display combined with a PS5 or whatever else. What’s worse, is that it will likely work just fine when they use that same system and cable on their other tv with lower resolution and or refresh rate, and they will believe the monitor is defective. What’s worse, is each cable likely would’ve only cost about a dollar to include. Meaning that even if only 1% of customers return for this reason, it still won’t have actually saved Sony any money…
Most people think anything above $200 for a monitor is overpriced. This is a very specific product for a very specific kind of informed buyer. I think they'll be ok.
There is 0 excuse to not include a cable with a monitor, that last thing I wanna do when I get a new monitor that i didn't know that i doesn't come with a cable is to not use the damm thing because I have to wait for the cable to arrive
The stand is a deal killer. That front foot means no space under the monitor for a speaker or even a laptop if you like to push it forward. I have no idea what they were thinking.
@@rollerskdude The vast majority of monitors are compatible with mounts. Doesn't make this stand any less crappy and poorly designed. The monitor stand is always included as part of a monitor review, this is no different.
Likely because PlayStation consoles themselves only support 1080P or 4K. Their consoles do not have support for 1440P and, yes, I think it is a missed opportunity.
Something worth pointing out with monitor stands that I wish you guys talked about more are the positions of the lateral legs (ones that go out). For a multi-monitor setup, if these legs are in front they can get in each others way when you have the monitors arched in a curve. If the legs are at the rear, this doesn't happen. Probably not why they made that design choice, but super useful if you need to arc the monitors if you have limited desk space.
I am personally more interested in how it performs for watching media. I usually game on an ultrawide so this standard aspect ratio isn't great for me in that regard, but 4K 27" QD-OLED sounds great for watching some videos. Edit: I stand corrected it is not QD-OLED, just LCD. I got confused earlier when I was trying to look up QD-OLED monitors and ended on a page about this monitor.
@@Mystical_Zeus I'd think most people plug in the original cable between their console and TV upon initial setup then rarely ever unplug them again unless they have to move. I lend people cables all the time, but what I usually lend out are my "extra" cables lying around that aren't plugged into anything. These are usually the HDMI cables that come packed with some sort of video device that I don't use all the time.
6:10 If you want to control your monitor's settings through software, odds are you can just use any random DDC/CI control application to do just that (like the old ClickMonitorDDC, or the newer Monitorian). Basically every monitor that's been made in the last two decades will support it (it works over VGA and DVI, too). (Which makes it even weirder that Windows doesn't just use it for brightness control like it has on laptops. Instead it's just been relegated to a Win32 "Monitor Control" API, which is so old that it literally has methods for *degaussing* the monitor.)
I had a top tier Vaio laptop several years ago. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't great either. Was overpriced for what you got and had a lot of bloatware. Sony specific software and driver support was terrible, and the blu-ray software that came with it refused to work because the registration was super buggy.
My first PC was a Sony Vaio. Circa 2003 or 2004. I remember playing MedievalTotal War: Viking Invasion and Empire Earth 2 before a BSOD permanently killed the machine. Good times though
@@225Perfect I do agree, I had driver issues aswell. But this was in the midst of the xp/vista/7 days. Everyone was plagued with this, as for bloatware. It's easy enough to remove
They were beautiful devices. I had one from 2007 to 2014 until Core 2 Duo was just not working for me anymore. It was probably a good business decision, but I was sad as a Sony fanboy
Six months in, I tried to use that stand, lured in by the way it matches the PS5. But I finally caved, ditched that thing and put the M9 on an arm. Now I can finally move it freely and rotate it.
1:45 you know that there’s a description where it says what is included with the monitor. If you are in need of a cable just check if the monitor comes with one (I’m not saying that it shouldn’t come with one, just that if you need something it’s your job to check if the product has that feature).
2:28 seems that KVM in monitors are becoming more common nowadays. I used KVM feature extensively on my GB M27Q as I work from home and having an easy way to switch from my work laptop and gaming PC without having to disconnect and reconnect everything. I did have to use a hub as 2 ports aren't enough, as I use a separate numpad.
Agreed, another factor to consider is that monitors over the years have generally had multiple input but they were often hard to switch between, now they’ve made it much easier to switch input and added USB switching.
I love my Gigabyte M32U, it’s 4K, 144 hz, same IO as this panel but a much better stand It might not have as many local dimming zones, but works well enough for FPS gaming.
@@peters.7428 compared to 768p the experience will probably boarder on the divine. The colors are excellent. The blacks are good for LCD panels but you can tell they are not OLED.
@@squanchy474 Colors are mostly what bothers me on my displays, one is very yellow-ish, and the other one is blue-ish with very bright blacks and a bit dark whites. Resolution is not the problem, and i get even better FPS with mine.
27'' 4K, jesus christ. My PPI soft spot after trying many monitors out is 32'' 1440p lmao (equivalent to 24'' 1080p), any more PPI and I don't see the benefit in gaming anymore. I certainly can spot it in plain text and stuff but I game 95% of the time on this thing.
I have a feeling this is going to go on special reasonably quick due to FALD finding it's footing during Q4 as other manufacturers release their displays. $899USD isn't offensive but it's not great.
@@davisbradford7438 Typically the line has started to blur as time has gone by. See that Linus uses/used a 48" TV as a monitor. Main differences that still remain are that inputs/outputs tend to be a bit different. Most of the time, you'll see that DisplayPort is not present on TVs. Second, and probably the biggest one nowadays, is refresh rate. Monitors tend to target higher refresh rates than their TV counterparts. At most, on TVs you'd see around 120hz. Anything above that is usually overclocked, usually. Monitors have been hitting higher refresh with more ease cheaper. Anyway, as stated by the video. This monitor is a bit more expensive to some of its counterparts. That's the Sony Tax. There are some features on here that mesh well with the Sony ecosystem, which is a huge plus if you have other Sony things. That being said, I've known people that have been using a C1 as a monitor, size aside, the color accuracy is great. You're just capped by that refresh rate and response time at times. Not horrible, mind you. It's actually great compared to a lot of monitors, but not the best for that price range either. The C1 at that price would definitely be a worthy consideration for a monitor. Can't beat how nice OLED looks, especially since the next option for OLED monitor would be the Alienware 34" for 1400 USD, I think. There you are paying for that higher refresh rate and high color accuracy.
It's kinda upsetting to me how there's no 1440p monitors with proper HDR support, that doesn't also cost twice as much as my 4K TV that does have it. I should point out that any HDR rating below HDR10/HDR1000 may as well not exist imo, my current one accepts HDR10 input, but it only has 400nits peak, and HDR looks really really bad on it. I only have a 3070, 4k monitors just aren't an option for me since gaming at 4k is stutter city with my current card and non native resolutions just look aweful these days. As for the stand, it's a non-thing for me since I use vesa mounts for my displays, can't stand monitor stands, they take up way too much space :)
I have an Odyssey G7 with HDR 600 certification and it looks great, the real issue is HDR10 and HDR 400, they’re the bare minimum requirements and content looks awful, HDR10 isn’t even real HDR it just means it’ll accept HDR material even if your monitor only hits 250-300 nits, they should start at HDR600 and keep HDR1000 and HDR2000
Sure for gaming, but for movies, they are mastered for 4K HDR. Running a 4K mastered movie on a 1440p monitor will force the movie to disable HDR, because It cannot change its code on the fly like a video game can. If you watch movies more often then play games like I do, 4K HDR is the obvious choice. Most of the games I play have DLSS support anyways so if I have to run a game using DLSS it still looks great on a 4K display, much better then my previous 1440p monitor I sold.
bulshit, i have Vizio v series hdr10+ TV VA 4k used 400 dlls and a ips monitor hdr400 4K, used 300 dlls if you adjust the colors the colors are very similar. I never use them at 100% brightness, that would be crazy, I like to work and play in darker environments so I turn off all lights and close the blinds.
man LTT loves to ride that line between intriguing titles and thumbnails, and annoying click bait. feels like the last few weeks they have tipped closer to clickbait...
Thanks for this excellent review 🎉😮 You pointed out everything I went through it and understood from my research. As you said, it’s a reasonable choice for a setup consisting of PS5 + MBP Pro + Gaming Laptop.
I have the M9 and it has what look like multiple stuck pixels (a greenish blue dot the size of say, a sharpie point) and I see slight vertical lines. They almost aren't there but they are. It's hard to explain. But they are there. I got it to have a monitor that matches all the specs of my PS5 and still use in PC, but I think I might have to send it back. I ran into a similar problem with the Predator monitor awhile back. I ordered like 5 of them before I eventually went with the Dell 2716DGR. That just started having issues, and I have a PS5, so I figured I would get this to match and it would have everything a PS5 can do (for the most part). And I do have slight dimming issues. So when it's a black screen (as I go to with every new monitor to see if there are issues because I have moderate OCD and can't stand having anything but a near perfect display) I see a slight halo of light around the cursor. But it's not bad. That wouldn't be the issue. The dot is.
Because a 40+" screen does not make for a comfortable experience in the average desk setup. But man would I kill for a 32" OLED. #@" is as big as I'd bother going for a PC monitor
Not everyone wants a 40+ inch TV as a monitor and some people will be keeping their monitors longer than 3 or 4 years which with PC use could definitely cause burn in by then.
@@jonathoncapshaw7610 fair, but you also have a 42 inch c2 for also about the same price, at least here in Europe. It might be too big for you but I think that for most people this would be a much better option.
To be honest, its kinda weird sometimes how y'all define "afordable" and "expensive"; the alienware Display -> 1300 Bucks. This Display -> 900 Bucks. Mate, if the Alienware one is actually better as a Display, I can wait to scramble the 400 Bucks together if I'm already spending nearly one Grand on a Display.
There isn't a single standard for better or worse when it comes to displays because each display technology has its ups and downs. For a general purpose display, surely this one will better than the Alienware for many. For hardcore gamers, the Alienware is probably better.
@@littlejackalo5326 Well, and 100% extra is absolutely huge; I mean there are also 450 Buck ones out there which would be acceptable in comparrison. But you want the nice HDR Features, you want the Design and so on. So, then you already like "Well, I want something around 1000 Bucks.". Then you can also put the 300 Bucks extra on top and it isnt like "It will cost you an arm and a leg". Eizo Monitors or alike for 4000 Bucks doin' that. Or a 900 Buck one compared to the SAMSUNG UE57 or BenQ EL2870U or LG 27UN850-W to name just a few under 400 Bucks which are workable. I think their HDR Features ain't that good but otherwise ...
Hey can you help me with something. Since you spoke of 4k monitor, I assume you have some experience with 4k. I want to ask will the difference between 4k and 1080p be very high on a 43 inches TV? And also what is the size of a 4k movie file. I have a movie of 1.5 hours and it's about 5 to 6 GB. Does that look right?? Thanks!
@@rishabhrawat7856 The movie size is about right, as for the display well it depends on how far you are planning to be from it. But from experience if you are using it like at monitor, at that size I would avoid 1080p
is there a good monitor stand that can switch from landscape to Portrait mode and lean back in Portrait mode? please send suggestions, or make a video about it or something, would be very helpful
Price would come down if reviewers would stop saying things like "this is affordable". It maybe be affordable to you but not to everyone. My only option at that size is my $180 TV now that is not any where close to quality of this monitor but it is "affordable". It's time you understand "affordable" has nothing to do with quality.
Purchased this monitor when it was released and am using it with my PS5 and M1 MacBook Pro. So far I’m loving it except for some parts of the HDR. I say some parts because when watching movies and gaming in HDR, I notice the local dimming (when set to high) causing the image to exhibit haloing that looks different from what I’ve seen in other Sony LED backlight displays. This only happens in a pitch black room with no bias lighting but it’s actually kinda distracting. To the point where I feel like turning local dimming to low is a better option with HDR content. I find it’s most noticeable with contrasty HDR movie scenes but when you know what to look for it’s noticeable with pretty much all HDR content. You get haloing in the form of squiggly white lines that move around frame depending where highlighted objects/subjects are in the frame. Not sure if it’s just my panel but given that the monitor has none of the screen defects people have been posting online about, I want to say I have a solid panel. Just wondering if anyone can add to this discussion. I love this monitor and if this is a normal backlight consequence on a 27 inch screen, I’m willing to put up with it. But if it’s a defect, then I feel like I should swap it out while the return window is still good. Thanks all 🤘🏼
Yo bro , i own a ps5 and a M1 macbook pro just like you and im looking for a monitor that’s perfect for what i have. Do you recommend the Inzone m9? personally i find the design pretty unique and cool
@@tonyjr6667 I own an M1 Mac Mini and I’m replacing my current AOC Agon with this because it’s perfect for gaming with my PS5 and the 4K display is noticeably better than my QHD Agon, I know the video says you can’t really appreciate it at 27” but trust me - you CAN. Apple sent me an iMac for work which has a 4.5K display on a 24” screen and comparing it to my Agon is what made me jump on the decision to replace it. I wish Sony offered the option of removing the Gsync because it’s totally useless with Apple products and it would make it cheaper but if you can find it open box at Best Buy I’d seriously recommend at least trying it, it’ll make your macOS visually stunning, especially if you do editing of any kind.
@@richard2174 Sounds great bro , im set on buying this monitor it just looks amazing and got sick specs for what i have. I might get it from Best buy but im scared if it turns out worn out if i get open box. Either way im definitely copping this monitor👍
And we're back to confusing HDMI specs, 2.1 used to mean you can run 4k 144Hz, but Sony wanted to save a couple cents on this $900 monitor and included fake HDMI 2.1
This is a great monitor you just need to find the right settings, after trying many settings and modes with warzone and mw2 i found that reducing resolution to 1440p with VRR in game 1 picture setting is the best, it also gives you Full control in display settings that you cant get when playing in 4k HDR, in campaign games 4k is absolutely great
Gaming monitor stands have gotten worse and worse these days, I don't know who made being as obnoxious and large as possible a design point but I hate it, I've been a VESA enjoyer since 2016. ASUS ROG stands are even worse.
$900 seems like a lot of money for a 27 inch monitor. Yes its 4k yes its 144 hz and has local dimming. But man how much will all those things actually change the experience? There are some really sweet monitors in the 200-400 range, I cant imagine that someone is actually getting $500 worth of features unless they are actually using it for color accuracy which people who actually care will get a creator monitor. For that price you could even go 48 inch oled if you really care about HDR. I am really looking forward to all this new display tech getting cheaper. Because if feels like a really bad time to upgrade.
Definitely going to get this, I've been waiting for a monitor with full array dimming, That isn't crazy expensive. It's still expensive but for the features I'm ok paying a bit more. I wish it was 32 inches, but this will do for now. There isn't really anything else on the market that's worth it at the moment. I'm hoping we get 32 inch 4k OLED displays eventually, but I have a feeling that won't happen for a while. Companies seem to be focusing on ultrawide displays right now.
Be careful with going OLED for a PC monitor, I went that route and regret it - the burn in with static icons like file menus and the task bar is horrible. Fantastic blacks for sure, but if I could take it back, I'd get local dimming instead :/
@@PhobiaSoft Yeah burn in is a concern, which is why I'm still hesitant to buy any display that has that technology. I have a LG C2 and love it, but I know it's going to have burn in eventually, maybe not anytime soon, Most likely in a couple of years. That's the main reason I'm hoping we get more Mini LED monitors.
I went to the link for the monitor in the description and it's just another link that redirects to an Amazon search page that literally doesn't have a single Sony product on the first page. LOL
If i ever receive a monitor with no cables that it requires. I will simply return it and ask for my money back. Until we push back they will keep coming up with bs like that.
Somebody just needs to make an edge to edge screen like some smartphones do with gorilla glass to protect against flying controllers and make them easier to clean and a full white only oled screen as the backlight…
@@matthiaswaehler yeah my only fear would be it’ll protrude too far back into my walls but it’s quite small. And my switch console fits perfectly snug under it. My only issue is that when switching games it goes black for a few secs, which is understandable because of the fps change. I also wished the media remote worked on it as well instead of me having to shove my hand behind the monitor to access settings.
Or you could buy a 48 inch LG c1 for about the same possibly less on sale now, will be OLED, will most likely look better, is only 24 Hz less and is 21 inches bigger, this might be okay if you don't have much space but id honestly sooner vesa mount the C1
I would go as far as to say $600 at most, For a 27 inch display it's just too expensive, They couldn't even be bothered to include any cables. If this was 32 inches and had over 1000 diming zones for what they're charging, I would say it's a great deal.
So 899 for a pretty average monitor versus 1299 for the one Plouffe got for himself which he says is great sounds like just save up money and get the good one lol
Cuz the ps5 doesn’t support 1440p. Its so dumb. I hope they release a 1440p 144hz monitor, that way they can finally release a 1440p update for the ps5. But at this point I don’t care cuz I got a 4k monitor. Only reason I got a 4k 144hz 28” Samsung monitor was cuz I got it for $450.
As mentioned on the previous InZone video’s comments, I’m curious to see how these will pan out for EVO & Valorant. Likewise, the fact that this is being adopted for the former (being a PS5/PC monitor) makes me think that EVO will switch to PS5 next year once the input delay issues are worked out. For reference, they still use PS4 this year. And Xbox Series isn’t an option since certain fighting game developers continue to ignore the system.
Sony will have to get their heads out of their asses about not letting ps5 games use ps4 controllers first. Lack of controller compatibility is going to be the real issue for EVO.
@@Neoxon619 Hitbox controllers still don't work on ps5 games as well as most controllers commonly used alongside things like the hori fightpad mixboxes and anything custom. And only the Hori has a new seperate ps5 controller made.
here I am thinking 576 zones are terrible on 32" and .... 96 zones should be fine? I doubt it. Only displays with zones that's good enough is the macbook pro or ipad, which both has at least 2000 zones for displays that's 13-14 inch.
The vast majority of TVs even good Midrange ones don't have 576 local dimming zones and you think 576 zones is terrible on a 32 inch? For example the Q90A from last year only had 576 local dimming zones and that's at 55 inches.
@@tymandude1510 We're talking about monitors, not TVs. And for example the Samsung Odyssey G7 is also 27'', also 1440p, 240Hz instead of 144, is almost half the price of this one, and has 1,196 local dimming zones (and it was still called out by some reviewers for not being enough). There's no excuse for having just 96.
@@hanes2 The Q90A is not a cheap TV, it's a $1200 to $1400 TV. Also according to basically every reviewer the number of dimming zones matters far less than the implimentation of the dimming itself.
The dimming looks pretty good. It's hard to tell from a video but it doesn't look that far off from my Predator X27. Sony has excellent dimming algorithms on their tvs that usually compensate for a zone deficit (eg the X95j which I own outperforms the X940e it replaced despite having a lot less dimming zones.) At 900 this is a steal given anything else at this price point is edge lit.
as someone who has a x27p since it came out i can tell u the sony ones looks alot worse judging by the vid the x27p has alot like alot less glow playing the same vid since the zones are much smaller they give off like a small dot glow around my mouse while in this vid it looks light its lighting up a full golfball worth of space still its alot better for the price then whats currently on the market
@@Kenjis9965 in germany they are actually not far off i paid 1500 euros on a sale for mine and this one costs 1100 in germany right now so well meh :D also the x27p has 1000 nits instead of 600 that makes a diff aswell
@@Kenjis9965 also forgot to say that i think for 1100 here in germany it should beat a now 4 years old monitor no ? ^^ pc monitors are kinda depressing atm
I feel like not including a cable is not really an issue here. Most tech guys not only have HDMI cables lying around. But they undoubtedly have extras. Also, most of the purchases you make on something that sends out a display comes with cables. Like the playstation five or your average bluray player and so on.
the stand could have had two modes, traditional with the V like the base on the desk like a normal monitor or that one which saves space for kb and mouse
This monitor with PS5 is heavenly amazing! HDR is another level when playing games like GOW or Ghost of Tush. However in warzone and mw2 multiplayer i turn off HDR as it’s too bright and might disturb spotting enemies and movements
I feel like if you are serious about getting the most out of your monitor you already own a monitor arm. For a 27 inch screen you don't even need a fancy once. So it sucks that the included stand blows chunks but at least that is an easy an inexpensive fix for those who don't own a monitor arm yet. And if you don't own one... Buy one. They are cheap on Amazon and they are awesome :)
I think that feature should be more mainstream at this point, considering the trend of working at home and many laptops now have USB-C that supports video out and charging for docking stations.
@@mannyfresh7065 you select the device you want to control (with k+m) and see output video. KVM is a box equivalent of disconnecting and connecting the cables. It just does it inside the box with some electronics so you don't have to do it manually.
I just got this monitor and it absolutely refused to update the firmware at first. Tried like 20 different cables according to their convoluted update process and finally got it to work. It would have went back today if it didn't update last night. Highly recommend the USB-B/DisplayPort update method that's on their support site if you're updating from M006 to M009. After updating the VRR works great and there's a lot less screen tearing on PC. Ryzen 9 5950x/4080 FE/64 GB RAM configuration. Edit: I didn't like the stand. However, it wasn't a deal breaker for me because it's on a VESA mount currently.
What value would be better for a pure ps5 player this or the odyssey g7 38 inch 4k? U can get it for about 600 bucks.. is this monitor for pure ps5 gaming maybe watching movies at times worth the extra 300?
Looks cool. But I can't really get my head around paying 899 for something like this, when the LG B1 is 670 and the C1 is 750 sometimes over here. Yea they're big, but they're also better.
Yep, I have the C2 and the M9. The M9 is trash compared to the C2. I play on the PS5 and the C2 looks absolutely amazing with it. I just need to find a monitor that looks as good as the C2, because I like gaming on the 27 inch screen.
I stopped paying attention to any HDR certifications because most of them are ass. The only metrics I'm interested are in the screen percentage sustained brightness. Especially after having the M1 Max MacBook Pro and a LG C1, my requirements for a "HDR capable" monitor/screen is at a minimum 1,000 nits for 100% white screen.
Damn, you know what Discman I had growing up? Craig. I had the Craig brand cd player that you could grab at Walmart for like 40 bucks or something, lol.
The stand seems really bad. But that "navigation nipple" and power button on the back always irritates me: I understand they're trying to hide the input buttons, but placing them in the back means you have to know where they are before using the monitor. I would prefer a side or bottom placement, and the "nipple" could be replaced with those old red trackpoint rubber buttons that existed in the middle of laptop keyboards before the touchpad replaced it.
The PS5 HDR config menu is inaccurate. I'd use a light meter to measure the actual lumen output. I use an online guide from someone that's figured those values out.
Just feedback on the joystick, I think that most often is absolute trash because we just lost dedicated input switchers because of it. Switching between inputs is something many people do and the joystick never gets an easy way to do that. They all pick volume for left/right and some other feature nobody uses for up and down. Its nice this at least has a dedicated power button, because who wants blinking lights all the time if you aren't using it, but multiple inputs without dedicated input switcher is so terrible. I've gone and bought a separate switcher because of it and it added a lot of cables to my desktop, always making it seem messy.
I hear ya but my lg ultragear has a joystick and it’s 2 clicks to change inputs. A bit frustrating it doesn’t auto switch even though it advertises and even has a setting for it
For £900 it is not good value. Samsung 1440p 240hz G7 for half or G9 and mini LED 4K G8 165hz for the same price or for a little more the mini LED 4K G8 32" 240hz and 4K QN90B 43". or go LG OLED C2 42" 4K or even Samsung mini LED QN90A 50" for £550. BTW i own or owned every pannel listed barring the 165hz G8. This Sony panel ain't got the chops or value for the money.
It also looks like you can't tilt the monitor down at all to face you well. It looked like in some of the shots the bottom of the monitor was grinding along the stand itself. It certainly looks cool, but that's about it.
recently got a monitor with a dedicated on off button....my god how something so minor can be sooooo nice (nipple is nice but when your monitor is vertical and it's hard to reach/use a simple button is a godsent
They are just begging for trouble not including display port HDMI cables. You know people out there are going to try to use their HDMI 1.3 and display port 1.1 cables that may or may not compatible with this monitors resolution and refresh rate. They are going to get a lot more RMAs than if they had included those cables.
Buy a fricken cable. Your talking about the 2020s - progress or be left.
They won't get many RMAs. They'll get store/retailer returns. Consumers won't have to go through the RMA process because it'll be a problem from the beginning, and will be returned to the retailer. The retailer will either RMA it if it is warranted, or send it for inspection and repacking in remanufactured packaging. People that return stuff because they don't like it, or for any other fault of their own, like a wrong cable, are scum bags. Amazon needs to tighten up their return process.
While I agree with both of you in theory, there are too many people who don’t know / don’t care, they don’t know that their old trust HDMI cable that worked just fine with their PS3 for years isn’t good enough for the new display combined with a PS5 or whatever else. What’s worse, is that it will likely work just fine when they use that same system and cable on their other tv with lower resolution and or refresh rate, and they will believe the monitor is defective. What’s worse, is each cable likely would’ve only cost about a dollar to include. Meaning that even if only 1% of customers return for this reason, it still won’t have actually saved Sony any money…
Most people think anything above $200 for a monitor is overpriced. This is a very specific product for a very specific kind of informed buyer. I think they'll be ok.
There is 0 excuse to not include a cable with a monitor, that last thing I wanna do when I get a new monitor that i didn't know that i doesn't come with a cable is to not use the damm thing because I have to wait for the cable to arrive
The stand is a deal killer. That front foot means no space under the monitor for a speaker or even a laptop if you like to push it forward. I have no idea what they were thinking.
It's compatible with 3rd party mounts. Mentioned in the video.
Not much
@@rollerskdude The vast majority of monitors are compatible with mounts. Doesn't make this stand any less crappy and poorly designed. The monitor stand is always included as part of a monitor review, this is no different.
@@rollerskdude You completely missed the point. Why should we be forced to use an aftermarket mount because of their stupidity?
Probably thinking it would match very nicely with a PS5 console standing right next to it.
I hope the M7 (1440p 144hz) is at least planned by Sony. It's kind of weird that they don't offer the sweetspot in their new lineup
Likely because PlayStation consoles themselves only support 1080P or 4K. Their consoles do not have support for 1440P and, yes, I think it is a missed opportunity.
These are clearly meant for PS5 so I would not expect a 1440p monitor because the PS5 doesn't support 1440p.
Why would you want 1440p in 2022instead of 4k?
@@TheOmegaRiddler No they aren't. Sony said these are primarily meant for PC gaming, and meant for the PS5 to a lesser extent.
@@oublieux They did say it was on the planning right?
How does a big company like Sony manage to make such a dumb monitor stand? I know that kind of thing happens all the time, but it's always baffling.
The stand is hideous.
PS5 looks hideous also, and its too large.
Idk whats the design department are smoking.
@@GarryChenYT Agreed, the PS5 is a monstrosity lol.
Them carrying over the design language from the ps5 is a mistake.
@Carl Gunderson hopefully there are more monitors with similar specs in this price range coming. Killer specs, just bad looking.
Looks good to me.
Would be best for pointing up at an angle though, like for lying down. Looks built for it.
Something worth pointing out with monitor stands that I wish you guys talked about more are the positions of the lateral legs (ones that go out).
For a multi-monitor setup, if these legs are in front they can get in each others way when you have the monitors arched in a curve.
If the legs are at the rear, this doesn't happen.
Probably not why they made that design choice, but super useful if you need to arc the monitors if you have limited desk space.
I am personally more interested in how it performs for watching media. I usually game on an ultrawide so this standard aspect ratio isn't great for me in that regard, but 4K 27" QD-OLED sounds great for watching some videos.
Edit: I stand corrected it is not QD-OLED, just LCD. I got confused earlier when I was trying to look up QD-OLED monitors and ended on a page about this monitor.
It's not a QD-OLED it's just an LCD
To be fair, the PS5 comes with a 2.1 HDMI cable. With that stand I'd think the target market is pretty clear.
What person has their original cables anymore. Even I eventually lose cables I never thought I would.
@@Mystical_Zeus most people
@@lachietg obviously you're more stingy and don't let people borrow cords then.
@@Mystical_Zeus Ooh the passive agression. It has nothing to do with you being generous, get over yourself. Your argument is just ridiciolous.
@@Mystical_Zeus I'd think most people plug in the original cable between their console and TV upon initial setup then rarely ever unplug them again unless they have to move. I lend people cables all the time, but what I usually lend out are my "extra" cables lying around that aren't plugged into anything. These are usually the HDMI cables that come packed with some sort of video device that I don't use all the time.
6:10 If you want to control your monitor's settings through software, odds are you can just use any random DDC/CI control application to do just that (like the old ClickMonitorDDC, or the newer Monitorian). Basically every monitor that's been made in the last two decades will support it (it works over VGA and DVI, too).
(Which makes it even weirder that Windows doesn't just use it for brightness control like it has on laptops. Instead it's just been relegated to a Win32 "Monitor Control" API, which is so old that it literally has methods for *degaussing* the monitor.)
Imo, you can never have enough long displayport / hdmi cables
In retrospect, the sale of Vaio was a mistake. They made excellent laptops
I had a top tier Vaio laptop several years ago. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't great either. Was overpriced for what you got and had a lot of bloatware. Sony specific software and driver support was terrible, and the blu-ray software that came with it refused to work because the registration was super buggy.
in those days vaio > Toshiba ???
My first PC was a Sony Vaio. Circa 2003 or 2004. I remember playing MedievalTotal War: Viking Invasion and Empire Earth 2 before a BSOD permanently killed the machine. Good times though
@@225Perfect I do agree, I had driver issues aswell. But this was in the midst of the xp/vista/7 days. Everyone was plagued with this, as for bloatware. It's easy enough to remove
They were beautiful devices. I had one from 2007 to 2014 until Core 2 Duo was just not working for me anymore. It was probably a good business decision, but I was sad as a Sony fanboy
For $900+ it doesn't seem like the build quality is good enough. That stand is awful.
yeah, the stand makes it look and feel cheap
Yeah
Never buy first-gen. Hopefully they will improve it next year.
This monitor is 1300 USD in Denmark. I paid the same amount for my XH90 75" (4K - 120HZ - ALLM).
The pricing for these monitors are ridiculous.
I have been dreaming about a Sony monitor (not talking about professional displays) for so long, and it had finally came to real life!
Six months in, I tried to use that stand, lured in by the way it matches the PS5. But I finally caved, ditched that thing and put the M9 on an arm. Now I can finally move it freely and rotate it.
1:45 you know that there’s a description where it says what is included with the monitor. If you are in need of a cable just check if the monitor comes with one (I’m not saying that it shouldn’t come with one, just that if you need something it’s your job to check if the product has that feature).
Yeh I am not saying its nice that it doesn't have its own cable but this is clearly meant to be picked up alongside a ps5
2:28 seems that KVM in monitors are becoming more common nowadays. I used KVM feature extensively on my GB M27Q as I work from home and having an easy way to switch from my work laptop and gaming PC without having to disconnect and reconnect everything.
I did have to use a hub as 2 ports aren't enough, as I use a separate numpad.
Agreed, another factor to consider is that monitors over the years have generally had multiple input but they were often hard to switch between, now they’ve made it much easier to switch input and added USB switching.
This might be a good option, but any fans of alternative monitors do they match this display?
I love my Gigabyte M32U, it’s 4K, 144 hz, same IO as this panel but a much better stand
It might not have as many local dimming zones, but works well enough for FPS gaming.
And m28u……the blacks are amazing
@@squanchy474 Define your well enough. I have 2 VGA 768p monitors, and both are great for FPS gaming. It is all about perspective.
@@peters.7428 compared to 768p the experience will probably boarder on the divine. The colors are excellent. The blacks are good for LCD panels but you can tell they are not OLED.
@@squanchy474 Colors are mostly what bothers me on my displays, one is very yellow-ish, and the other one is blue-ish with very bright blacks and a bit dark whites. Resolution is not the problem, and i get even better FPS with mine.
27'' 4K, jesus christ. My PPI soft spot after trying many monitors out is 32'' 1440p lmao (equivalent to 24'' 1080p), any more PPI and I don't see the benefit in gaming anymore. I certainly can spot it in plain text and stuff but I game 95% of the time on this thing.
>100ppi is great,
I have a feeling this is going to go on special reasonably quick due to FALD finding it's footing during Q4 as other manufacturers release their displays. $899USD isn't offensive but it's not great.
There are last generation 4K 120HZ OLED TV's going for about the same cost. $800 for a 48" LG C1.
@@davisbradford7438 can't compare a TV to a monitor.
@@tengkurazin3289 Why not?
@@davisbradford7438 that's quite large, definitely too big for my setup at least
@@davisbradford7438 Typically the line has started to blur as time has gone by. See that Linus uses/used a 48" TV as a monitor. Main differences that still remain are that inputs/outputs tend to be a bit different. Most of the time, you'll see that DisplayPort is not present on TVs. Second, and probably the biggest one nowadays, is refresh rate. Monitors tend to target higher refresh rates than their TV counterparts. At most, on TVs you'd see around 120hz. Anything above that is usually overclocked, usually. Monitors have been hitting higher refresh with more ease cheaper.
Anyway, as stated by the video. This monitor is a bit more expensive to some of its counterparts. That's the Sony Tax. There are some features on here that mesh well with the Sony ecosystem, which is a huge plus if you have other Sony things.
That being said, I've known people that have been using a C1 as a monitor, size aside, the color accuracy is great. You're just capped by that refresh rate and response time at times. Not horrible, mind you. It's actually great compared to a lot of monitors, but not the best for that price range either.
The C1 at that price would definitely be a worthy consideration for a monitor. Can't beat how nice OLED looks, especially since the next option for OLED monitor would be the Alienware 34" for 1400 USD, I think. There you are paying for that higher refresh rate and high color accuracy.
The stand looking like a PS5 is such perfect Sony tackiness.
It's kinda upsetting to me how there's no 1440p monitors with proper HDR support, that doesn't also cost twice as much as my 4K TV that does have it. I should point out that any HDR rating below HDR10/HDR1000 may as well not exist imo, my current one accepts HDR10 input, but it only has 400nits peak, and HDR looks really really bad on it.
I only have a 3070, 4k monitors just aren't an option for me since gaming at 4k is stutter city with my current card and non native resolutions just look aweful these days.
As for the stand, it's a non-thing for me since I use vesa mounts for my displays, can't stand monitor stands, they take up way too much space :)
I have an Odyssey G7 with HDR 600 certification and it looks great, the real issue is HDR10 and HDR 400, they’re the bare minimum requirements and content looks awful, HDR10 isn’t even real HDR it just means it’ll accept HDR material even if your monitor only hits 250-300 nits, they should start at HDR600 and keep HDR1000 and HDR2000
HDR10 is not even close to HDR1000 or anything in that range, HDR10 uses static metadata, and is a far cry from anything that uses dynamic metadata
The industry doesn't care about 1440p. 4k sounds more fancy than 1440p.
Sure for gaming, but for movies, they are mastered for 4K HDR. Running a 4K mastered movie on a 1440p monitor will force the movie to disable HDR, because It cannot change its code on the fly like a video game can. If you watch movies more often then play games like I do, 4K HDR is the obvious choice. Most of the games I play have DLSS support anyways so if I have to run a game using DLSS it still looks great on a 4K display, much better then my previous 1440p monitor I sold.
bulshit, i have Vizio v series hdr10+ TV VA 4k used 400 dlls and a ips monitor hdr400 4K, used 300 dlls if you adjust the colors the colors are very similar. I never use them at 100% brightness, that would be crazy, I like to work and play in darker environments so I turn off all lights and close the blinds.
Nice to see a slightly more affordable 4K 144hz monitor, even had hdr so that’s nice
Bro 4k 144hz are at 600$ now : Samsung g7S28, LG GN950B and more... This Sony is not affordable at 1000$
@Alex Corvis no both HDMI 2.1
man LTT loves to ride that line between intriguing titles and thumbnails, and annoying click bait. feels like the last few weeks they have tipped closer to clickbait...
When did 900$ become affordable?
Thanks for this excellent review 🎉😮
You pointed out everything I went through it and understood from my research.
As you said, it’s a reasonable choice for a setup consisting of PS5 + MBP Pro + Gaming Laptop.
I have the M9 and it has what look like multiple stuck pixels (a greenish blue dot the size of say, a sharpie point) and I see slight vertical lines. They almost aren't there but they are. It's hard to explain. But they are there. I got it to have a monitor that matches all the specs of my PS5 and still use in PC, but I think I might have to send it back. I ran into a similar problem with the Predator monitor awhile back. I ordered like 5 of them before I eventually went with the Dell 2716DGR. That just started having issues, and I have a PS5, so I figured I would get this to match and it would have everything a PS5 can do (for the most part). And I do have slight dimming issues. So when it's a black screen (as I go to with every new monitor to see if there are issues because I have moderate OCD and can't stand having anything but a near perfect display) I see a slight halo of light around the cursor. But it's not bad. That wouldn't be the issue. The dot is.
At this price point why not buy an LG C1? Oled 4k 120hz for about the same price...
Because a 40+" screen does not make for a comfortable experience in the average desk setup. But man would I kill for a 32" OLED. #@" is as big as I'd bother going for a PC monitor
Not everyone wants a 40+ inch TV as a monitor and some people will be keeping their monitors longer than 3 or 4 years which with PC use could definitely cause burn in by then.
@@jonathoncapshaw7610 fair, but you also have a 42 inch c2 for also about the same price, at least here in Europe. It might be too big for you but I think that for most people this would be a much better option.
Why would I want a 42 inch screen that I'm going to be sitting like 3 feet away from 💀
@@GrandeJavardo Not really, you have 3 people here that disagree with you as of now.
To be honest, its kinda weird sometimes how y'all define "afordable" and "expensive"; the alienware Display -> 1300 Bucks.
This Display -> 900 Bucks.
Mate, if the Alienware one is actually better as a Display, I can wait to scramble the 400 Bucks together if I'm already spending nearly one Grand on a Display.
An extra 50% of cost is absolutely huge.
There isn't a single standard for better or worse when it comes to displays because each display technology has its ups and downs. For a general purpose display, surely this one will better than the Alienware for many. For hardcore gamers, the Alienware is probably better.
@@littlejackalo5326 Well, and 100% extra is absolutely huge; I mean there are also 450 Buck ones out there which would be acceptable in comparrison.
But you want the nice HDR Features, you want the Design and so on. So, then you already like "Well, I want something around 1000 Bucks.".
Then you can also put the 300 Bucks extra on top and it isnt like "It will cost you an arm and a leg".
Eizo Monitors or alike for 4000 Bucks doin' that.
Or a 900 Buck one compared to the SAMSUNG UE57 or BenQ EL2870U or LG 27UN850-W to name just a few under 400 Bucks which are workable.
I think their HDR Features ain't that good but otherwise ...
@@mbvglider For a general purpose display, I wouldn't pay more than 300~400 Bucks though.
In my opinion 27 inches is too small of a screen size for a 4k resolution monitor. I would never buy a 4k monitor small than 32 inches.
Hey can you help me with something. Since you spoke of 4k monitor, I assume you have some experience with 4k. I want to ask will the difference between 4k and 1080p be very high on a 43 inches TV? And also what is the size of a 4k movie file. I have a movie of 1.5 hours and it's about 5 to 6 GB. Does that look right?? Thanks!
true, 4k 27 in is like trying to see 4k on 6 inch phone
Meanwhile, I think 4K isn't enough pixels for a 27" monitor. 5K looks much better on it. At 32", I want 6k.
@@rishabhrawat7856 The movie size is about right, as for the display well it depends on how far you are planning to be from it. But from experience if you are using it like at monitor, at that size I would avoid 1080p
i would, because i have no space for 3 32" monitors on my desk.
is there a good monitor stand that can switch from landscape to Portrait mode and lean back in Portrait mode? please send suggestions, or make a video about it or something, would be very helpful
U cud always just get a monitor arm
yeah monitor arm with VESA mount is probably your best bet.
@@rilikandzepton I got the monitor arm but it barely moved back in portrait mode, i'm trying to use it for digital drawings
@@spaceasteroid6528 wdym it barely moved back. My 40$ arm freely moves and rotates as much I want. I think u need to put more force
@@rilikandzepton what brand are you using
Price would come down if reviewers would stop saying things like "this is affordable". It maybe be affordable to you but not to everyone. My only option at that size is my $180 TV now that is not any where close to quality of this monitor but it is "affordable". It's time you understand "affordable" has nothing to do with quality.
When they say affordable they are comparing to other 4k monitors. I hear ya, monitor pricing is crazy though
For that kind of money I would get a LG C1 48”.
Sure, but for someone with limited space or needs a quality display on a desk and already has a good TV, this is a good option too.
48'' ??? why?¿
@@alejandromoran4590 that’s the smallest they made the C1. it’s a great display for slightly less money. 120hz variable refresh rate, oled, 4K, HDR
yes but burn in for desktop use is also a valid concern, i wouldnt buy a C1
@@zargham6719 got the c1 with a 5 year warranty for 1200 so im not worried and its been pure bliss so far
Purchased this monitor when it was released and am using it with my PS5 and M1 MacBook Pro. So far I’m loving it except for some parts of the HDR. I say some parts because when watching movies and gaming in HDR, I notice the local dimming (when set to high) causing the image to exhibit haloing that looks different from what I’ve seen in other Sony LED backlight displays. This only happens in a pitch black room with no bias lighting but it’s actually kinda distracting. To the point where I feel like turning local dimming to low is a better option with HDR content. I find it’s most noticeable with contrasty HDR movie scenes but when you know what to look for it’s noticeable with pretty much all HDR content. You get haloing in the form of squiggly white lines that move around frame depending where highlighted objects/subjects are in the frame. Not sure if it’s just my panel but given that the monitor has none of the screen defects people have been posting online about, I want to say I have a solid panel. Just wondering if anyone can add to this discussion. I love this monitor and if this is a normal backlight consequence on a 27 inch screen, I’m willing to put up with it. But if it’s a defect, then I feel like I should swap it out while the return window is still good. Thanks all 🤘🏼
Yo bro , i own a ps5 and a M1 macbook pro just like you and im looking for a monitor that’s perfect for what i have. Do you recommend the Inzone m9? personally i find the design pretty unique and cool
@@tonyjr6667 I own an M1 Mac Mini and I’m replacing my current AOC Agon with this because it’s perfect for gaming with my PS5 and the 4K display is noticeably better than my QHD Agon, I know the video says you can’t really appreciate it at 27” but trust me - you CAN. Apple sent me an iMac for work which has a 4.5K display on a 24” screen and comparing it to my Agon is what made me jump on the decision to replace it. I wish Sony offered the option of removing the Gsync because it’s totally useless with Apple products and it would make it cheaper but if you can find it open box at Best Buy I’d seriously recommend at least trying it, it’ll make your macOS visually stunning, especially if you do editing of any kind.
@@richard2174 Sounds great bro , im set on buying this monitor it just looks amazing and got sick specs for what i have. I might get it from Best buy but im scared if it turns out worn out if i get open box. Either way im definitely copping this monitor👍
And we're back to confusing HDMI specs, 2.1 used to mean you can run 4k 144Hz, but Sony wanted to save a couple cents on this $900 monitor and included fake HDMI 2.1
wait...so what makes it fake hdmi 2.1?
@@TheSlyDragon93 Yeah I’m curious too
I think your confused, I’ve always understood 4K 144hz was for display port, hdmi 2.1 caps out at 4K 120hz.
This can do 4k 144hz through Display Port not HDMI 2.1
Fake 2.1 u wanna sue them and try to prove ur point in court. Cuz u would win if u was right
This is a great monitor you just need to find the right settings, after trying many settings and modes with warzone and mw2 i found that reducing resolution to 1440p with VRR in game 1 picture setting is the best, it also gives you Full control in display settings that you cant get when playing in 4k HDR, in campaign games 4k is absolutely great
That stand takes so much desk space tho. It looks atrocious
Gaming monitor stands have gotten worse and worse these days, I don't know who made being as obnoxious and large as possible a design point but I hate it, I've been a VESA enjoyer since 2016.
ASUS ROG stands are even worse.
oh god, that post-processing shimmer at 02:27
Anyone have other good 4k 120 or 144 hz monitor with hdmi 2.1 for similar price?
What y’all don’t understand is that this isn’t really for a PC they made it for the PS5
It looks good. But, 32 inch must been nicer - at least for me.
Can you use this monitor for pc work ?😊
Yes you can
$900 seems like a lot of money for a 27 inch monitor. Yes its 4k yes its 144 hz and has local dimming. But man how much will all those things actually change the experience? There are some really sweet monitors in the 200-400 range, I cant imagine that someone is actually getting $500 worth of features unless they are actually using it for color accuracy which people who actually care will get a creator monitor. For that price you could even go 48 inch oled if you really care about HDR. I am really looking forward to all this new display tech getting cheaper. Because if feels like a really bad time to upgrade.
This. 4k on 27" is close to overkill depending on monitor distance. It'd be more justifiable around the 30" mark.
In my country this monitor is retailing for 1200usd, for that price I might as well get the aw3423dw
Definitely going to get this, I've been waiting for a monitor with full array dimming, That isn't crazy expensive. It's still expensive but for the features I'm ok paying a bit more. I wish it was 32 inches, but this will do for now. There isn't really anything else on the market that's worth it at the moment. I'm hoping we get 32 inch 4k OLED displays eventually, but I have a feeling that won't happen for a while. Companies seem to be focusing on ultrawide displays right now.
Be careful with going OLED for a PC monitor, I went that route and regret it - the burn in with static icons like file menus and the task bar is horrible. Fantastic blacks for sure, but if I could take it back, I'd get local dimming instead :/
@@PhobiaSoft Yeah burn in is a concern, which is why I'm still hesitant to buy any display that has that technology. I have a LG C2 and love it, but I know it's going to have burn in eventually, maybe not anytime soon, Most likely in a couple of years. That's the main reason I'm hoping we get more Mini LED monitors.
Get a benq ex2710u. Same quality with great built in speakers.
I went to the link for the monitor in the description and it's just another link that redirects to an Amazon search page that literally doesn't have a single Sony product on the first page. LOL
The stand is a classic case of "Aesthetic over functionality".
If i ever receive a monitor with no cables that it requires. I will simply return it and ask for my money back. Until we push back they will keep coming up with bs like that.
Everything is great except F1 2021. Couldn’t get your techy hands on F1 2022 heh?
This was probably filmed before F1 22 even came out
want them to test everygame on a shortcircuit?......
@@lorenzovanoordt7894 bro. I was going off the thumbnail
@@Im_A_Watermelon true. Shhhhh
Somebody just needs to make an edge to edge screen like some smartphones do with gorilla glass to protect against flying controllers and make them easier to clean and a full white only oled screen as the backlight…
Now that I have it, the stand isn’t that bad lol
my Monitor is coming this week and i don‘t think the stand is to bad too
@@matthiaswaehler yeah my only fear would be it’ll protrude too far back into my walls but it’s quite small. And my switch console fits perfectly snug under it. My only issue is that when switching games it goes black for a few secs, which is understandable because of the fps change. I also wished the media remote worked on it as well instead of me having to shove my hand behind the monitor to access settings.
Or you could buy a 48 inch LG c1 for about the same possibly less on sale now, will be OLED, will most likely look better, is only 24 Hz less and is 21 inches bigger, this might be okay if you don't have much space but id honestly sooner vesa mount the C1
overpriced this thing should be $700 maxxxx
I would go as far as to say $600 at most, For a 27 inch display it's just too expensive, They couldn't even be bothered to include any cables. If this was 32 inches and had over 1000 diming zones for what they're charging, I would say it's a great deal.
LTT Versa Monitor Stand please. Height/Tilt/Swivel adjust with tool less assembly in black/orange/ RGB.
So 899 for a pretty average monitor versus 1299 for the one Plouffe got for himself which he says is great sounds like just save up money and get the good one lol
Which monitor did he purchase?
I bought this one because I’m not a fan of widescreen’s
Hi, you need just check this monitor Philips 275E2FAE/00, design is incredible, no bezels
idk man, I love the stand. Pretty original and cool-looking 😃 perhaps a little less useful than hoped
No mention of supported resolutions other than 4k. Sony hates 1440p and tend to not include them in their tvs.
Cuz the ps5 doesn’t support 1440p. Its so dumb. I hope they release a 1440p 144hz monitor, that way they can finally release a 1440p update for the ps5. But at this point I don’t care cuz I got a 4k monitor. Only reason I got a 4k 144hz 28” Samsung monitor was cuz I got it for $450.
As mentioned on the previous InZone video’s comments, I’m curious to see how these will pan out for EVO & Valorant. Likewise, the fact that this is being adopted for the former (being a PS5/PC monitor) makes me think that EVO will switch to PS5 next year once the input delay issues are worked out. For reference, they still use PS4 this year. And Xbox Series isn’t an option since certain fighting game developers continue to ignore the system.
Sony will have to get their heads out of their asses about not letting ps5 games use ps4 controllers first. Lack of controller compatibility is going to be the real issue for EVO.
@@BugLondon If you mean the DualShock 4, that's fair. But for PS4 arcade sticks on PS5 games, they work as long as the stick is officially licensed.
@@Neoxon619 Hitbox controllers still don't work on ps5 games as well as most controllers commonly used alongside things like the hori fightpad mixboxes and anything custom. And only the Hori has a new seperate ps5 controller made.
Where I live, I can't even go to a store to buy a DisplayPort or HDMI cable
The store is really far away and they cost like $60 for a single cable
Wrangel island isn't for everyone.
being one of the very few HDMI 2.1 monitors, it really should include a HDMI 2.1 cable as majority of even tech people arent going to have one.
here I am thinking 576 zones are terrible on 32" and .... 96 zones should be fine? I doubt it. Only displays with zones that's good enough is the macbook pro or ipad, which both has at least 2000 zones for displays that's 13-14 inch.
Yeah thought the same thing. 96 zones is only like what, 8x12? Which at this size if I'm counting right is around 1.8 x 1.5 inches... That's huge.
The vast majority of TVs even good Midrange ones don't have 576 local dimming zones and you think 576 zones is terrible on a 32 inch?
For example the Q90A from last year only had 576 local dimming zones and that's at 55 inches.
@@tymandude1510 We're talking about monitors, not TVs. And for example the Samsung Odyssey G7 is also 27'', also 1440p, 240Hz instead of 144, is almost half the price of this one, and has 1,196 local dimming zones (and it was still called out by some reviewers for not being enough). There's no excuse for having just 96.
@@tymandude1510 yeah, 576 is terrible for TV sizes. Avoid any cheap mini-LED tv, rather than a uniform look, it's big blotches when watching movies.
@@hanes2 The Q90A is not a cheap TV, it's a $1200 to $1400 TV.
Also according to basically every reviewer the number of dimming zones matters far less than the implimentation of the dimming itself.
Vent holes the same size as the 3.5mm? Yeah... I'd be glad I don't use monitor sound at all.
The dimming looks pretty good. It's hard to tell from a video but it doesn't look that far off from my Predator X27. Sony has excellent dimming algorithms on their tvs that usually compensate for a zone deficit (eg the X95j which I own outperforms the X940e it replaced despite having a lot less dimming zones.)
At 900 this is a steal given anything else at this price point is edge lit.
as someone who has a x27p since it came out i can tell u the sony ones looks alot worse judging by the vid the x27p has alot like alot less glow playing the same vid since the zones are much smaller they give off like a small dot glow around my mouse while in this vid it looks light its lighting up a full golfball worth of space still its alot better for the price then whats currently on the market
@@HackforeverxD I also wasn't watching it on a particularly good screen. It certainly doesn't look bad though and my X27 was double the price
@@Kenjis9965 in germany they are actually not far off i paid 1500 euros on a sale for mine and this one costs 1100 in germany right now so well meh :D also the x27p has 1000 nits instead of 600 that makes a diff aswell
@@Kenjis9965 also forgot to say that i think for 1100 here in germany it should beat a now 4 years old monitor no ? ^^ pc monitors are kinda depressing atm
@@HackforeverxD they're getting more exciting at least. This one and the Alienware qdoled are at least a big jump over what was available.
I feel like not including a cable is not really an issue here. Most tech guys not only have HDMI cables lying around. But they undoubtedly have extras. Also, most of the purchases you make on something that sends out a display comes with cables. Like the playstation five or your average bluray player and so on.
Can’t wait for the eco system behind this, hopefully it’s good
Probably not good, more likely to be a Samsung Eco System not like Apple
@@muixgohanx3579 What is a samsung ecosystem?
@@echo8092 Samsung watch, earbuds tablets and phones so like kind of mismatched
@@echo8092 Samsung Galaxy devices, Bixby and SmartThings...
@@josepineda8902 but apple sells watches, earbuds, tablets and phones too.
Anything wrong with a 42 inch LG 120hz 4k oled at around the same price or am I missing something
If their monitor image quality is as good as their TVs, then they may be the best.
Can you update the monitor thru the ps5?
the stand could have had two modes, traditional with the V like the base on the desk like a normal monitor or that one which saves space for kb and mouse
This monitor with PS5 is heavenly amazing! HDR is another level when playing games like GOW or Ghost of Tush. However in warzone and mw2 multiplayer i turn off HDR as it’s too bright and might disturb spotting enemies and movements
I feel like if you are serious about getting the most out of your monitor you already own a monitor arm. For a 27 inch screen you don't even need a fancy once.
So it sucks that the included stand blows chunks but at least that is an easy an inexpensive fix for those who don't own a monitor arm yet.
And if you don't own one... Buy one. They are cheap on Amazon and they are awesome :)
It’s really nice to see more manufacturers implement KVM into their monitors. That’s a killer feature for me personally.
I think that feature should be more mainstream at this point, considering the trend of working at home and many laptops now have USB-C that supports video out and charging for docking stations.
So how does kvm work exactly? It just knows what input is powered on/off and just switches?
@@mannyfresh7065 you select the device you want to control (with k+m) and see output video. KVM is a box equivalent of disconnecting and connecting the cables. It just does it inside the box with some electronics so you don't have to do it manually.
my wall mount I bought for 30 euros even came with a HDMI cable 😂
I just got this monitor and it absolutely refused to update the firmware at first. Tried like 20 different cables according to their convoluted update process and finally got it to work. It would have went back today if it didn't update last night. Highly recommend the USB-B/DisplayPort update method that's on their support site if you're updating from M006 to M009. After updating the VRR works great and there's a lot less screen tearing on PC. Ryzen 9 5950x/4080 FE/64 GB RAM configuration.
Edit: I didn't like the stand. However, it wasn't a deal breaker for me because it's on a VESA mount currently.
U still have it? And how is it?
Love the content ltt!
"You have to make a whole nother trip to the store, just to buy something." Is that not the only reason there is to go to the store? XD
Great video but you guys just slayed the stand without mentioning WHY the stand is actually like that and show an example of it doing its purpose.
Why is it like that?
Please elaborate
They haven't mentioned it because there is no practical explanation. It's all just stylistic BS.
What value would be better for a pure ps5 player this or the odyssey g7 38 inch 4k? U can get it for about 600 bucks.. is this monitor for pure ps5 gaming maybe watching movies at times worth the extra 300?
Not even F1 22 😔
Looks cool. But I can't really get my head around paying 899 for something like this, when the LG B1 is 670 and the C1 is 750 sometimes over here. Yea they're big, but they're also better.
Yep, I have the C2 and the M9. The M9 is trash compared to the C2. I play on the PS5 and the C2 looks absolutely amazing with it. I just need to find a monitor that looks as good as the C2, because I like gaming on the 27 inch screen.
I stopped paying attention to any HDR certifications because most of them are ass. The only metrics I'm interested are in the screen percentage sustained brightness. Especially after having the M1 Max MacBook Pro and a LG C1, my requirements for a "HDR capable" monitor/screen is at a minimum 1,000 nits for 100% white screen.
LG C1 doesn't even get close to 1000 nits. Lmaoooo
What monitor do u recommend for ps5?
That protruding leg in the front is really bothering me, it takes so much space.
Damn, you know what Discman I had growing up?
Craig.
I had the Craig brand cd player that you could grab at Walmart for like 40 bucks or something, lol.
This review is hilarious, he trashes every aspect of the monitor and in the end goes "yeah you know this really isn't bad!" 😂
Really great review. Very impressed. Seems very optimized for the ps5.
What's plouffe wearing in his hands? Is it like a ergo thing?
The stand is only wobbly when you wobble it. I can confirm it stays put and is easy to move up and down.
Playing XBox games on a Sony monitor made for the PS5. I bet Sony liked that lol.
The stand seems really bad. But that "navigation nipple" and power button on the back always irritates me: I understand they're trying to hide the input buttons, but placing them in the back means you have to know where they are before using the monitor. I would prefer a side or bottom placement, and the "nipple" could be replaced with those old red trackpoint rubber buttons that existed in the middle of laptop keyboards before the touchpad replaced it.
£1000 in the UK, equiv to 1,180 dollhairs
Sony: lets charge 800 bucks for a 27 inch non oled monitor and not include an HDMI cable.
they need to bring out a 1440p 165hz or 240hz monitor as well.
The PS5 HDR config menu is inaccurate. I'd use a light meter to measure the actual lumen output. I use an online guide from someone that's figured those values out.
any other similarly priced options out there ? really considering getting this when it comes out
Just feedback on the joystick, I think that most often is absolute trash because we just lost dedicated input switchers because of it. Switching between inputs is something many people do and the joystick never gets an easy way to do that. They all pick volume for left/right and some other feature nobody uses for up and down. Its nice this at least has a dedicated power button, because who wants blinking lights all the time if you aren't using it, but multiple inputs without dedicated input switcher is so terrible. I've gone and bought a separate switcher because of it and it added a lot of cables to my desktop, always making it seem messy.
I hear ya but my lg ultragear has a joystick and it’s 2 clicks to change inputs. A bit frustrating it doesn’t auto switch even though it advertises and even has a setting for it
For £900 it is not good value. Samsung 1440p 240hz G7 for half or G9 and mini LED 4K G8 165hz for the same price or for a little more the mini LED 4K G8 32" 240hz and 4K QN90B 43". or go LG OLED C2 42" 4K or even Samsung mini LED QN90A 50" for £550. BTW i own or owned every pannel listed barring the 165hz G8. This Sony panel ain't got the chops or value for the money.
It also looks like you can't tilt the monitor down at all to face you well. It looked like in some of the shots the bottom of the monitor was grinding along the stand itself. It certainly looks cool, but that's about it.
I love the fan joke😂
recently got a monitor with a dedicated on off button....my god how something so minor can be sooooo nice (nipple is nice but when your monitor is vertical and it's hard to reach/use a simple button is a godsent
I really wish more pc monitors came with a spdif output. I’ve been a using 4K tv as my “monitor” for years and it’s a super useful feature.