The Crow becoming a 'big issue' for Adelaide as Nicks' 'excuse' torched - Footy Classified
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- The Footy Classified panel delves into the problems for both SA teams following Round 14.
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Why is Ricciuto still poppân up doing media? Heâs out there doing special comments and boundary rider gigs. Why not crack into your Footy Director job as your sole focus?
Totally agree. On the fence hedging his bets.
Heâs a poor commentator and only ever does Adelaide games
These dinosaurs like eddie McGuire , mark Ricciuto etc are feared , they do what they want people to scared to confront them
There 7 seconds left in the game with that âhorrible visionâ ð
Caro has no idea about Joel Amartey. Longmire took him off towards the end of game because he has history of hamstring issues . Why risk him in a blowout game? Yeah would have been nice to kick ten but Iâd much rather have him in the team every week! 5:15
Iâm a Hawks fan and I donât want a bye this week ð
Nicks is finished if he is using the bye thing as an excuse internally.
Itâs a fair point - canât have a team go 14 weeks without bye while everyone else has had one. But he wouldnât use it as an excuse internally - he sees where the players went wrong. Heâs a smart coach.
â@@imalwaysrightBut it's not EVERYONE else. Hawks haven't had one.....Or the Bulldogs and they are playing well. Excuses!!
Stephen Rowe is a DH. The Adelaide media and supporters expectations was far greater than it shouldâve been. They have no experience and a lot of kids and they are inconsistent. I think Nicks can coach he just doesnât have the cattle. The midfield is below average for depth and quality.
A little while ago, a fellow supporter of the Crows told me that they expected top 4 this year.
I just told them to put a lid on those expectations, top 4 is too much of a leap, either barely missing the 8, or just making it is enough to show some linear progression.
I also stated, my biggest concern is the midfield, which would get exposed as being somewhat neglected, which could drag the Crows down a few notches.
copium. you've been in a rebuild for 5 years now? you should absolutely have the cattle by now with all the good picks you've had. tons of other teams started their rebuild after crows but are much better.
@@Sulufythatâs not really nicks fault though is it?
@@Comatosedpeanut um yes? He's been the senior coach for 5 years now
@@Sulufy that's not how footy clubs work lol
Tbf there was less than 10 seconds left in that clip and they were 7 goals down
Let's be a little more realistic. Adelaide are not exactly over endowed with class players. Take out Dawson and Rankine and there's not much left.
They have a plethora of really solid young talent on that team that is been horribly utilised by a Coach with a stupidly predictable game-plan that is ridiculously easy for opposition to completely nullify.
@@taliamason7986 That of course is the whole point. Solid young talent (your words) who no doubt will be good players but like all young players they run hot and cold. The future looks bright but the present is a little ordinary. I don't share your condemnation of the coach - he may not be a Craig McRae or Adam Kingsley but he's better than quite a few others.
â@@kelstra1997Young talent generally do run hot and cold but they shouldn't be going this cold in Year 5 of a rebuild with the plethora of first round draft picks they have had. Just look at the Bombers by contrast who started their rebuild at the exact same time as the Crows back in 2020 yet they sit 4th on the Ladder at the moment firmly in the hunt for Finals and knocking right on the door of entering the Premiership window which they almost certainly will enter next season. That is why the Coach and other Assistant Coaches of the Crows have to be seriously questioned. Why is it they can't win at the MCG for 7 years. Why is their game-plan so ridiculously easy to nullify. Why are their dangerous small forwards constantly been played out of position. Why can't they actually win close games, etc.
@@taliamason7986 Good comments Talia. Clearly you are a Crows supporter and know far more about them than I do. It's true that footy is played about 75% above the shoulders and after the robbery which cost them a place in the finals last year it's not unusual to suffer a let-down the following year. Again that's probably a characteristic of a young team.
I'm not sure that I would be holding Essendon up as some sort of yardstick. They have had an incredibly easy draw and a lot of luck. Personally, I had the Crows pegged for a big year so their poor season comes as a surprise to me as no doubt it does you. Next year might just be the one where those young players come of age.
3:33 "in a big final"......that's gonna be years away at best
Possibly 2050, when most of us are gone and won't see either SA team screw up as usual in finals.
Recruiting managers are the untouchables
They've recruited a lot of top end talent out of the draft for the last 5-6 years. It's very simply up to the Coach and the other Assistant Coaches to find the right balance get the best out of them. You need only look at the Blues who had that exact same criticism for years after their ridiculously long rebuild dating back to 2016 yet have finally put it together under Micheal Voss and Co and are now genuine Premiership contenders as result. Heck even the Bombers who started their rebuild at the exact same time as the Crows back in 2020 seem to almost figured things out under Brad Scott and Co despite having one of the worst list Managers the game has ever seen. List Managers certainly deserve criticism for poor recruiting decisions by the at the end of the day they aren't ones coaching and instructing the players tactically. The buck has and always will stop at the Coach because it has been proven over and over again throughout history that good, competent coaching makes all the difference even if you may not necessarily possess a lot of talent.
Hey guys remember last year every single team coming off the bye midyear lost? If they were facing a team not coming off the bye. Teams typically start slow off them lmao since when did it become an excuse to lose to them. Also I love kane but brother there was 8 seconds left and they were down 20, of course his effort then was bad there he didnt want to pull a hammy
Leigh Montagna picked the club to dip this year. Used teams such as Richmond, Melbourne as examples when comparing similar style club clean out/rebuilds. Crows have progressed linearly ever since Nicks took the club over. Last year was the jump. Pressure builds to improve again but teams generally donât progress 4 years in a row. Draw gets harder, veterans get older and young players not ready to take the jump. The crows will be good team in 3 years regardless of whether nicks is there or not. The age and experience profile is not there yet. Unfortunately I donât think nicks will survive to see it come to fruition.
@Steph8010 Fair point, but the Hawks this year remind me of the crows last year. Playing with nothing to lose and a draw based off finishing 15th last year. I do not believe hawks will rocket into the 8 next year. They finish in that 8-10 range this year, going on history they will find it harder next year to back it up. Albeit they may defy the odds. However the same story happened after they drafted hodge back in 01, the regressed until 2004, then made their push.
The Bombers also have a pretty young list yet are sitting 4th on the Ladder even though they started their rebuild at the exact same time back as the Crows back in 2020. It very simply boils down to the game-plan and how ridiculously predictable and easy it is for the opposition to completely nullify them. That team has a plethora of talent that are basically been horribly utilised. A much better, far more ruthless Coach that actually knows how to establish a defensive structure would do so much better with those crop of players.
@@taliamason7986 Essendon finished with 15th in 2015 and bottom of the ladder in 2016. That is when their rebuild began, not in 2020. They have been on a 8 year turn around which around the time it takes for a rebuild to properly come to fruition. Look at the form of McGrath. He was though to be a bust, he is now proving critics wrong. Hawks turn around, 01-08, Richmond turn around 07-17 Melbourne 15-21. Essendon still had holes in their team at the turn of the decade, another couple years down the bottom help them fix the damage. Whether you like it or not, thatâs how the AFL system is designed.
Essendon also have the 7th most experienced list while having 22 players with finals exposure, the crows are 15th in experience with only 6 players played finals. Big difference there.
@@AFLTragic Wrong. The rebuild began back in 2020. 2016 was a bottoming out year through no choice of the club because more than three quarters of their list got banned that whole year by ASADA. How else do think they just managed to shoot straight back into the top 8 the following year. Also no. Hawks rebuild was 02-06. They reached the Finals in 07 where they famously won against the Crows in the only Final to ever played at the Docklands (I will never for the life of me understand why it doesn't get used for Finals) and then of course won the flag the following year. The Tigers was 2007-2012. In 2013, 2014 and 2015 they played in 3 consecutive Finals. Two of those 3 years they only narrowly missed out on the top 4, had a very disappointing 2016 that was massively overblown by everyone much like Geelong's 2006 season and then went to win the flag in 2017. Melbourne's was really more 08-2017. They reached the Preliminary Final in 2018 and then had a really shocking 2019 because of the sheer number of injuries they sustained, only narrowly missed the 8 in the 17 game Covid season (they almost certainly would have made it with the regular amount games played given how great their form was in those last few rounds) and of course absolutely stormed the 2021 season and won the flag that year. Just so you should know a rebuild is generally done when a team is at least making consecutive appearances in the Finals.
@@taliamason7986 They finished 15th in 2015, and bottom in 2016. It is irrelevant as to why. Those are the years they picked up McGrath and Parish. Without those players they would not be the team they are this year. If you want to be very specific, hawthorn finished 2nd to bottom in 1997 and acquired Trent Croad. The eventual player they used to trade as well as McPharlin for Luke Hodge in 01. They then re-bottomed out in 04 allowing them access to buddy and Roughead. That is 8 years of wheeling and dealing before making a trip to the big time. Richmond actually bottomed out in 2004 wasting picks on Deledio and Tambling, which if your keen on getting technical is when their officials rebuild began. I donât want to hear injuries and an excuse for Melbourne because the same can be said for the crows but you donât see myself bringing it up. The point is these things take time, very rarely does a club win flags without finishing around the bottom for periods of time. The crows are still miles off the mark. I predict them to be a force later this decade.
Some have had two byes, but some of them also started a week earlier while the rest had the week off ðĪ·ââïļ
And?
Crows now on their first bye
So, Hawthorn haven't had a bye and are flying.
â@elizabethjunedempster4949 It's Crows 2nd bye. They had one in Opening Round, when other teams started the season a week EARLY. Hence, had a week LESS of pre season.
Im no fan of Adelaide, but Nicks has a point about sides having more byes than others. Its a problem across the board with the whole fixture list,...Theres EIGHTEEN teams in the comp, why do we need a bye at all? The VFL managed to not have bye since 1860 or so. ... the AFL for its first 30 years never had a bye... who da fck decided that a bunch of teams fans needed to be able to spend the weekend watching greyhounds or horse racing instead of going to the footy? Scheduling is bizarre... Some sides come into games of the back of ten day breaks, some sides get multiple six day breaks against opposition that has had 7 or 8... it is NOT a level playing field. Thats not whingeing, thats telling it like it is. 18 teams means nine games every weekend, even with one Thursday night game, how hard can it be to make the scheduling fair? Jeezus we split the atom in 1945, Walked on the moon over fifty years ago but somehow cant work out how to produce an equitable footy schedule? Its not like the AFL knobs have to calculate the likelihood of the Higgs Bosun existing. Every side should be having seven day breaks, and no side should be playing an opponent with more than 24 hours extra rest.
100% agree but it will always come down to whats making the afl money sadly enough.
@@porse7 Sure, but I think we can all agree, a ''bye round '' when there is an even amount of teams is ridiculous right?. I remember we had an odd number of teams for a while, so there was nothing you could do about it, but now that its an even number again, its incomprehensible that we still have this thing. Talk about a momentum killer, my team have been pretty weak the last two weeks, I was really pumped for them to see them turn it around last week. I note theres very little team discussion about who is in, who is out, who is injured etc. I do a bit of a check, they arent playing, Goddam it!!! I mean, fck!!
Hawthorns not having a problem with it
How has caro held this job for so long is beyond my understanding.
DEI pick
WE are tanking like all good melbourne clubs do!
You guys have been tanking for 25 years.
AFL, give Norwood the 20th licence to shake things up a bit in the SA football landscape.
I'm so glad we've got him till 2029.......
One coach says his team needs a bye, next coach says his team returned lethargic after the bye.
Would Kane talk like this about Port?ð§ð§
I get the feeling Matthew Nicks regretted talking about the bye as soon as the words left his mouth. See how quickly his head drops at the end. The journos sucked him in a bit.
The new laws on medical retirement, is now going to stop long term contracts as after 3 years the club will be not given assistance from there costing the clubs a fortune
Caroline and Bobble Head have got to get a coaching gig - Kane doesnât have the balls just happy with a cushie job criticising others with no accountability for his past comments. Negativity sells and these two in the AFL are the harbingers of career death.
2 new coaches in SA next season.
The Adelaide congaline reach around
Theres only one solution now for Port and the Crows. Nicks gos to Port for 6 weeks and Hinkley gos to the Crows. They both need some fresh air their both in adelaide and both need a reset recalibration as to where their at. Port fans will fully endorse the proposal. They cant wait lets get this rolling. Lethatgic coming off a bye ???? Yep good for crows off you go Ken
Port wonât be a contender whilst Hinkley is there ð
@@Comatosedpeanut crows season is shot so that's why I'm saying this is the deal of the century. Sometimes people have to think outside the box. . Good way for south Australia to demonstrate some teamwork
@Comatosedpeanut
THEY'RE both in Adelaide. Dopey ðĪĶ.
@@chasindigo please no more blaming the list it's good enough it's the coaches job and expertise to get them to the finish point. If they have that knowledge and expertise. As David King said Mr Ken is MR Avg.
Draft Kane Cornes as the new Adelaide coach
Kane throwing Rachele under the bus when heâs no longer valuable as a talking point lololol. Few weeks ago he was feeling sorry for him, saying club was failing by not putting him in the midfield lololol.
Mate Rachelle is throwing himself under the bus. He is weak, lazy and a sook. Not a team player at all. Worst decision ever to sign him to a long-term deal. ðĪĶðž
The 5 minute fireman has no qualifications for anything ,he dribbles Sh--t but letâs see what he says about Port when they drop out top 8
Port wonât drop out of 8. Theyâll be making up numbers come finals, out first week or second, but theyâll make it.
@@elizabethjunedempster4949 I agree and most of the time I disagree with him. But he has plenty of qualifications and on this point he is correct. Rochelle is useless
Crows have to many excuses
Its an excuse but cats played swans after a bye [2nd bye] Cant tell me that isnt an advantage even though they are a better side. Just that the AFL is the most Mickey Mouse big comp in the world. Look at the rule changes and the shitty interpretaions
The Crows appear to be soft.
Adelaide's downhill skiing ways are being exposed, that's basically it. They love the downhill ski, led by the power stance man big Tex
Rachele ð that was pathetic. One of the softest things Iâve seen in ANY sport. His dad would be embarrassed.
Rachele is a soccer player whom came to afl at 16, of course he is going to be soft.
The players don't like him at all, he's protected by the club to make the players dislike him more. Many players were very disappointed with his contract and were hoping he got traded. The Crows WAGs mouths are too big in this City.
@@Tehgamescrew you could see the way his teammates looked at him after that. Heâs clearly on the nose. Heâll be at North in 18 months
If you watched the whole game you would have seen Rachele go hard at the contest and put his body on the line multiple times. He was even taking on Grundy at times despite being half the size. I remember thinking as I watched it how much better he'd gotten in these moments, no doubt making an effort to atone for earlier in the season. Then in the dying seconds when the game was dead and buried he pulls out of a contest, and of course that's what gets cherry picked by the hacks in the media.
@@JohnHenrySMH the fact it was the last minute isn't an excuse. He should be conditioned to go hard from start to finish, but it certainly puts it in context and should have been mentioned ...if there had been an earlier instance in that game they surely would have showed the footage....I am usually OK with Kane but this was an unnecessary hit job
Carro and kane biggest floggs get off get new people on yr past yr time
The AFL HAS A BIG ISSUE, OH YES AFL, THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM ! COMPLICIT!! GOODBYE AFL!! AND GM WILL BE DEALT WITH ACCORDINGLY
Scrap the bye completely, and make the clubs manage their own club, manage their players, rest them if they think it's needed. It ain't rocket science.