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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2024
- Is this the new middleweight sportsbike king? I take the bike out on the roads and autobahn to get a better first impression of this new 2024 middleweight sportsbike, but is it more sports-tourer than sportsbike?
0:00 Outside Mellow Motorcycles, Triumph Frankfurt Nord
01:59 Walk-around and comparison with 2024 Trident 660
03:00 Ergonomics and first impressions on the road
06:20 Fuelling and motor, is the Daytona 660 better than the Triumph Trident?
08:55 Daytona 660 dash functions
11:00 Entering the Autobahn with the 2024 Daytona 660
12:00 Top Speed Autobahn Daytona 660 Triumph
14:59 Front brake feel on the Daytona
18:20 Conclusions of the road test
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3 minutes in and this guy already told me more important things about the bike that 3 other "professional" reviewers couldn't in a whole video. All because you have balls to talk about what's bad and are not invited on the press launch where you only have to talk standard mellow positives about whichever the bike. Also, great sound recording.
Still want this Daytona 660 so bad.. too bad no triumph dealerships in my country
Just get a Honda CBR650R - you'll love it! 🙂
@@anthonysilvestri4946 I didn't like it. I dislike the power delivery for a street bike, which it is, in essence. Also too heavy. And I already own a Honda bike.
@@grtbgf Interesting - I used to own a CBR600 F4i (which is what the bike is based on) and I absolutely loved that bike LOL
Now I ride a Tiger 1050 - its awesome also 👍
I bought one yesterday but now the miserable wait begins. I immediately loved the bike after the test ride and your video helped me make my decision, thank you!
For me. That was neevsey, Chad,mossy level . The sound recording of the engine , best I've heard on any review of this model. Thank you btg.
Wow! Thanks!
Just earned yourself another sub! Excellent top notch review!
Thanks very much!
Same here!!
Great review, so much substantial facts and feelings
Much appreciated!
Learnt more in your video than most of the others I've watched......almost like you're a journo !
What a terrible thing to suggest! 🤣
What I like about this review is that you ride it in the Autobahn and not in a stupid 70mph speed limited motorway(uk)😝…where a 125cc bike is more than sufficient😂😂😂
Commenting on your experience with the throttle mapping feeling restricted, I am looking forward to tuners get their hands on this bike and seeing what it can do with some mods and derestricted programming in the ECU…
Great video as always 🎉
Thank you 🤗
Excellent! Totally agree on previous comments re other reviewers , a good review thank you , the bike must be a goodie for you to want a trade 👍👍
Actually i'm also looking for some perfect sport touring "naked sport" bike :D i need to ride on this and on a new suzuki gsx-8r to decide what i'll pick for these incoming hot days
Great review. Why you gotta do the Yaris dirty though 😂. How is the ergo? I'm really interested in the engine but anything too aggressive would nuke my back..
Thanks for the sub! I'm allowed to talk shit about them because I've owned a few, and I love them to bits. 1SZFE all the way though: th-cam.com/video/uTypbGBdGe0/w-d-xo.html
My 91, and 93 vfr do 250 kph, or 150 mph here in the lovely states. Nice video, i love hitting those unrestricted roads there.
so do you think an ECU flash would be super beneficial for this bike?
What is the faster bike Daytona or the aprillia 660 and what is better for torque
I'am old , I like 😺 , nice review !👍
Thanks for the video, it's really useful! I am going to buy my first bike very soon and I'm torn between Trident and this one. I am going to use it primarily in the city with weekly trips for 40-100 km on highways. What would you pick under these conditions? Will I be able to have a passenger for these trips?
Both bikes would do this equally well. Question is, do you prefer upright to crouched, and do you want the extra top-end power of the Daytona?
@@btgmotoAwesome video! I’m in the same “Trident vs Daytona” boat… more power would be nice, but I prefer the upright riding position. My bigger concern would be the brakes as I’ve heard the Trident front brake is barely adequate and lacks feel vs the caliper on the Daytona. Thoughts? Thanks!
I was just thinking of this bike today and wanting a decent review, by gods will indeed!
I picked up my Daytona last Saturday. It’s a very solid bike. The engine is sounds great, the power delivery is great and the throttle response is great. The suspension is fine, adjustable would be better obviously but I don’t have any real complaints so far with the Showa SFBP forks it comes with. They’re fairly stiff and there isn’t a ton of dive under hard braking. This bike is easily one of the best choices in the category on par with the rs660 and cbr650r. Had a guy stop and jump out of his car to ask me about the bike last night while I was eating some food outside a local burger spot. It’s a real head turner.
I echo that - the forks are great, and it stops really well. For me the engine is a real peach, I'd love to map it, and put a pipe on it, even though I appreciate that it's specifically intended to be 95hp exactly.
How was the wind protection? Could you use it as a sports tourer to do 500km days?
With a slightly bigger screen, it wouldn't be a problem 🫡
The Trident 660 is a great bike! Mine has the QS fitted. What do you expect from a sub 700cc and at that price?? Maybe you must get a Ducati V4 RRRRR.... or something. I totally disagree that the Trident engine does not want to rev... Did you ride the restricted one??
"racetorx gear shift support" claims to fix the sloppy shifter on all triumph 660s including the Daytona. Price $75 available from Moto Machines here in the States.
The 95% throttle thing could be due to the bikes ECU still in bed in mode. Don't know if that's a thing on this bike, but we had a Ford Focus 1.6 Ecobeast that could barely reach it's required speed for some things we had to do with it.
Once it reached 2000km, it was "unhooked"
The mirror thing tbh is not a problem of the bike, but more with the preparation.
I also had my fair share of unpleasant experiences with certain workshops I won't call out.
Apart from the very narrow profile of the Daytona, I really like it. It's a shame, they didn't have the Quickshifter on the press bike, though.
I was assured it was flashed, serviced, and ready to rip - though you might be right. I'd love to see the TPS map tho!
@@btgmoto Like I said, some vehicles have stuff like this programmed on firmware level.
Nothing a normal workshop can access.
I really hope it's something of this sort and not a misaligned or faulty Throttle Position Sensor from factory. Or even worse:
Faulty mapping.
Imagine the shitstorm if any vehicle manufacturer would ever by accident or for some emission-related reasons would srew around with fuel maps
@@htmt07 Subaru WRX has entered the chat.
Interesting observations. Triumph loaned me a Tiger 660 while my 1200 was in for a service and I found it a lot of fun so I wonder if that engine could be uncorked to 95hp easily. I'm consideringt the little tiger as a commuter and general fun light bike. Spotted one for sale privately with less than 1000 miles for £6750 and wondering whether to go for it.
Tiger with this engine would amazing... But it's a totally different intake and top end
Great first ride review. The first thing I notice is that the red is nice but it looks like they forgot to paint rear of the bike.
Notice how all the demo bikes on the launch were black. 👍
Yeah, the grey with neon graphics is my favourite for sure
What a great bike! I was a bit shocked at how quick it is. I'm guessing my fat, old 6' 3" line backer frame isn't going to fit to well but this bike is on my test ride list.
Me😂
It's surprising how 'roomy' it is, so don't rule it out yet. Worth a sit, if you see one at a dealer. And thank for the sub!
The top end HP limit is there to qualify for A2 with the restrictor kit of course.
Yep, absolutely.
That engine sounding like NFS M3 GTR gives such a nostalgic feeling
Was the bike limited for A2 in the video?
100% definitely not. This bike is full power!
It would be quite interesting to see them get some more power out of these from factory in a higher trim level, I know it's at this power for A2 license restrictions but it would be cool to see how far they can push it. The only real example I know is KTM with the 790 Duke and 790 Duke L where the L is just software restricted to 95hp so it can then be further restricted to be A2 compliant. Having a similar treatment with the 660 could make the engine even more lively even if the power difference isn't that big
That was my thoughts on it power wise that it had a lot more than the factory tune will allow because they built it up and than said no we want to keep it A2 compliant
Hi, I’m 41 live in Germany and I currently own a Honda cb125r, do you think the new Daytona would be a good second bike?
Edit : Mostly for commuting
Yes it would be perfect! Will be a big step after 125 but manageable..
@@laz1go286 thank you
@@itzikca no problem.
I'm a Daytona owner too. You will have a lot of smiles behind your visor ✌
Looking at how much you liked the VFR, but hated the brakes, I think what you need is a 2014 onwards VFR, with the same unlinked radial brake calipers as 600 / 1000RR of the time (albeit linked up to very rudimentary abs).
You'd then end up with a reliable fun motorcycle you could put huge mileage on. They look the part too.
I've got an 03 800 VTEC with delinked brakes, WP suspension, Staintune exhaust and Gilles Variobars. It's bloody brilliant.
They're kinda pricey, and on paper they don't look like a massive step up from the RC46. I'd love to be proven wrong, but who's gonna let me ride one?
@@btgmoto your right, they aren't a massive step up. But to me they address the main problem with the earlier models i.e can't brake to apex without it complaining and on track days the rear disc cooks. Also lost a few pounds. Evolution not revolution.
If anyone could lend you one it would be brilliant to hear your views, you are saying what I've said for years. A lot of people seem to love the whole CBS thing, I reckon it's just a very primitive form of ABS.
@@shortblokeonabikethat CBS thing saved me 3x from a bad road crashes. Each time someone cut me off either intersection or overtaking on a bad spot, and once wild animals crossed within braking distance.
I had no time to grab my brake lever on the bar but I had time to hit the foot brake lever very quickly which gave me so much deceleration that I could just avoid the impact.
So IMO it's a good thing on the road.
Of course on a race track it's bad. But the whole bike isn't designed for the track anyway. It's a fat pig.
So I bought 600 supersport with 50kg less weight, more power, and factory separated brakes. And it's awesome on track.
Tons more fun than the VFR.
But the VFR will always be a more comfy and torquey road bike to do distance on.
@@laz1go286 that's a very niche benefit, but glad it worked out for you. Horses for courses / different strokes for different folks.
I've never viewed it as a track bike, or just strikes a really good balance between everything.
Did I see you'd bought a Daytona 660 on another post somewhere? Just wondered what you thought of it?
@@shortblokeonabike no I bought a 675 Daytona back in 2018. A 2011 model.
That is actually my track bike.
It replaced my 1999 VFR800 track bike.
Boy oh boy what a difference.
The fat pig nearly burned down on track after an electrical issue.
The VFR is just not for the track..
But it had a straight pipe with a carbon muffler. It sounded like Motogp 😅
After this BTG video I really wanna test ride this new Daytona though.
It looks and sounds sweet under load..
Really considering trading in my Trident for one of these. the trident is just geared way to short, something a simple sprocket change won't fix. It's absolute top speed with a 200lb rider is only 120mph.
I've tested mine and I'm 100% sure Triumph is limiting the bike in many ways or has setup the gearing in such ways for the bike to be... friendlier and have better emisions as it's one of the selling points on their website I'm sure some changes in the mapping will give it quite a change, the fact that you can feel like its tamed in a way lets me know that the bike has some magic waiting to be uncovered by a flash to the ECU, or maybe we will see a 660RS with a different frame and commodities with the full potential of the engine since it's clear that it has way more to offer
Echo the comments, what a down to the point “real” review ✌️
Another excellent test Dale. I love that you give honest opinions without being blinded by glitz or influenced by outside forces with a financial stake in the bikes.
I'm very blinded by glamour, but luckily there's none when you're just cold-calling dealers asking if you can borrow bikes lol
Is there a reason they restrict it to 95 hp?
Glad you asked @helenlomas1012 😅 it's because only bikes with 96hp or less can be restricted to 48hp and be eligible as an A2 category bike. The law says maximum 50% restriction 🫡
I was like that with the Tiger 660. There’s just too much economy built into it. I bought the Aprilia Tuono 660 Factory instead-might have bought the Tuareg but the seat height was just a little tall and I have two off road bikes anyway.
Tiger Sport 660 with this motor would be 🥵 🔥
@@btgmoto You still won’t be happy until it’s got the 765 motor in there. You might as well go and do the deal on one because I’m guessing that’s what you’ll end up getting anyway 😂 Did warn you about the Viffer. The Street Triple is a lovely bike I just don’t like the looks - I had the first one which had a glitchy throttle, but I’d certainly have another one but for the looks. Great fun and easily capable of long tours, Sunday blasts and race tracks.
Are these quicker than the r7?
Oh heck yeah
The R7 is a joke.
Triple for me any day instead!
Wait; I thought you really liked the Trident? There is a cheap aftermarket fix for the Trident shifter, probably would work on the Daytona.
I liked lots of things, but the lack of top end was frustrating
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Nice coat
Alpinestars Halo... Needs a wash though!
Is that the official run-in procedure for this bike? 😉
I skipped the opening burnout.
Kmph? Or mph?
Dei Gundu Boy 😂 The Trident isn’t boring per-say. Don’t be the guy who knocks a good bike in its segment and compare it to something else above its own
No offence, if you're looking at the Daytona, it might be worth taking a look at the aprilia rs660
None taken, I already own an Aprilia 660. I bet the RS is awesome
@@btgmoto I've got a pal who's had one since last year and loves it, and he's had v4 aprilias, only reason I suggested it is adjustable suspension and 100hp
Out of the Trident and the Daytona i would take the Tripple 😂
For all that is wholesome in the world DON'T SELL THE VIFFER! Everyone I knows who does, regrets it. You were a week away from sorting the suspension and de-linking it...
When the weather turns nice again, I'll ride the VFR and see how I feel 😅
@@btgmotoI had my fi for 21 yrs and although my best and favourite bike, I did feel at times it was boring. It’s strange but I think my vstrom650 which I thrash mercilessly because I can as only 70 bhp. I reckon up to 80 I think the torque of the strom there was not much between it and vfr. I think these smaller bikes are more engaging. If I was small enough I would have a street triple. However I only sold vfr due to skeletal/age reasons. Yes I regret it but I couldn’t ride it far. Good luck in your choice. It does sound gorgeous
Change ONE bolt.... And the front to rear is delinked...... That's 99% of exactly what you need .....
Agreed!
I'm both VFR RC 46 Vtec and 675 Daytona owner.
They are chalk and cheese.
The VFR's V4 is a peach with the right exhaust system.
Don't sell it!
Why didn't they call it the 666? Number of the beast 😊
They missed a great moment to embrace the pagan pound!
Naa, Give me a 955I Daytona any day. For Ten Grand I want decent suspension, or just up the price a little ! That's my main gripe with Modern triumph bikes, they cheap out on suspension on most of their bikes, including the classic range, like the speed Twin 1200, why doesn't it get olins like the Thruxton R ?
Was looking for this exact comment !!! Firstly Nobody is gonna give you a 955…without making you search for it like your life depends on it. Secondly Triumph did a decent job on this bike for the price. You can compare it to its competitors and see what aspects it betters them…or not and talk about owning an old 955😝.
Look at the market for new riders for Gods sake !!!
@@ashwinraggs4226 fair enough, I think you might have misunderstood me though, I'm not saying it's a bad bike, it's not, it's a very good bike, I'm a Triumph fan, I've owned 6 of them, I'm just saying from my point of view, it's not a Daytona, they should have kept the name for a proper sport bike, not a sporty middleweight, just my opinion, no offence ment, Maybe it means that Triumph never intended to build a full fairing full on sport's bike again?
Daytona 1200 please Triumph
I feel triumph has just missed the target with this bike. Its difference between others in is this new market is the triple, but if they had of done something, like a nice tft or better forks, people wouldnt even look at the 8r or the 660.
I need to check out the GSX8S for sure, thanks for reminding me!
That's the difference between quick and fast the 675 was fast this 660 is quick
It's nice that the 660 is finally 'quick' as I found the 80hp version frustratingly breathless
So, it might be a decent commuter and biginners sports tourer... but why the hell did they call it a Daytona then?! Specially since Triumph noticed the problem when naming the Trident.
That, I guess, is nothing to do with what 'purists' would call a Daytona, and everything to do with the first Daytonas of the Bloor-era. Back then, Daytonas were not cutting edge, they were steel-framed, comfy (relatively), roadbikes with full fairings and a sports styling, but no racetrack prowess at all. I own a '93 Daytona 1200.
Only thing I can tell you in life is never ever buy a x demo bike your asking for trouble one careful owner lol 🙈
I've had a couple, one did over 100,000kms....!