Suzuki GSX-8R - better than a Triumph Daytona 660?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มี.ค. 2024
- As promised here’s my review of the Suzuki GSX-8R, hot on the heels of having ridden one of its arch rivals, the Triumph Daytona 660. How do they compare? Which is better? Jump on and come for a ride with me as I attempt to find out!
Triumph Daytona 660 review - • Is the new Triumph Day...
As promised in the vid here are the key stats and UK market starting prices for you number crunchers out there!
Suzuki GSX-8R - £8,899, 776cc parallel-twin, 83hp, 78Nm, 205kg
Triumph Daytona 660 - £8,595, 660cc triple, 95hp, 67Nm, 201kg
Honda CBR650R - £8,600, 649cc 4-cyl, 95hp, 63Nm, 208kg
Yamaha R7 - £8,910, 689cc parallel-twn, 73hp, 67Nm, 188kg
Kawasaki Ninja 650 - £7,359, 776cc parallel-twin, 68hp, 193kg
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Top speed is irrelevant on today's road's, it's down right grunt for me. Couple that with reliability that makes the Suzuki the winner every time.
Difficult to argue with that
Grunt plus throttle control
Spot on mate
I love grunt most of the time, as long as it's easy to control.
Visordown tested this on track and said it hit 130-135 on track. If that’s not enough for ya, get a litre bike. Simple.
Can't beat that Suzuki warranty.
Thank you for back to back comprehensive reviews. I've ordered Daytona 660 sight unseen simple because nothing can beat triple sound. And I think that bikes are about how they make you feel, not if they make sense.
Pleasure, and there are no bad choices here … but I can understand yours going for the triple!
Does it sounds single cylinder 125cc? Like yamaha's crossplane?😅
Hope you enjoy the 1990's dash
@@roberta.6579 more like 3 years ago. Everyone praised the Trident Dash and this is basically the same dash. Personally I like it. Square TFTs are boring.
"Mid-life Crisis motorcyclist" I subscribed for the name alone!!!!
Haha, thank you!
Just wanted to say what a bad, bad name.
You ruined such a passionate activity by relating it to one of the lamest stereotype accepted by people that don't want to get their shit together.
Crisis my bottom..
@@mircea5013 Lighten up - it's just a bit of fun based on the fact I absolutely nail the stereotype myself so I thought I may as well own it!
To me its the perfect bike when you account for price, top speed, riding position, speed shifter, the tech that helps to not stall the bike for newer riders, etc. btw the price for me at my local powersports dealer is selling the 8R for $8500 and the 8S for $7000 USD which if you dont know the normal price from Suzuki for the 8R is $9400 USD. Unreal!
That's all dealer/delivery/destination fees included? 🤔
Total will be a different amount probably.
Here in Austin Texas you can add about 1400 Dealer ship n prep fees plus an additional 6.25% of the MSRP ($531)price you’re out the door for around $10500.
I like the Suzuki; fun and will be more reliable.
Plus way cheaper when you compare features to features
What a beautiful road to ride on in this video. It's about time that fairings are coming back. and the concept of sport bikes for the street instead of for the track. hopefully with a comfortable seat. people only shifted to naked bikes because of the ergonomics. because the sport bikes with fairings became to track oriented with back breaking leans to the bars and rock hard seats. totally uncomfortable ergonomics. and I thought so many times on how nice this naked bike would be if it had a fairing. and finally some companies are starting to do it. Personally I own a Ducati 939 Supersport. which is a relatively comfortable sports bike. but this Suzuki looks nice. and so does the Triumph Daytona.
Really like your videos, I have subscribed!
This thing is the nicest looking spots bike(possibly any kind of bike), available right now.... imho of course. The proportions are bang on, I've never really been interested in a sports, but this one has my attention.
Great video on my favorite new bike on the market
Subbed. Love the review and the perspective as a new rider
Thanks! More where this came from, too!
Great vid mate, Oz.
Merry Thanx and congrats for the vidéo !
Even on a rainy day, the landscape and the road you've choosen are simply beautiful as the green country.
Hope I will see some day before the way to Lake District...
When you travell on a very windy and wet road like on a bridge, you are pleased on a more than 200kilos'bike, in my opinion.
It's sometimes my diary on the same bridge driven with a CB125R few years ago and a vitpilen 701 and a svartpilen 701.
The wind made me change two lines in a glink with no way to control anything like a "rafale" on a winboard.
(Sorry for the "littérature", I'm french, hum, not by choice but by birth...)
I can't wait my silver 8R for few days to forget my last Ninja 1000sx in term of weight and consumption.
Thanx also for the "franchise", le "franc-parler" wich could mean here the way to tell simply, directly and honestly about your
impressions, thoughts, experiences and feelings and of course the smiley share of your videowork !!
Please take care of yourselves and enjoy the fun as the security !!!
🌿🕊☘🕊🍀🙏
I have an 8S and I love it, I need to try the 8R to see how different it feels, I definitely like the idea of some (if not loads) wind protection and it looks decent. Nice review thanks!
Thanks👍 Good review, how was the wind protection? Any buffeting? greetz from little Belgium
Greets back! Buffeting obviously less than it would be on a GSX-8S but you have to lie down on the tank to get any really benefit from the screen so it’s no tourer or adventure bike in that sense. But definitely better than a naked.
Good test and some interesting conclusions. If I could make one observation though. Your commentary is very muffled when you are riding. I don't know if it's just down to the microphone that you use, but I really struggled to hear what you were saying at times.
Nice review & presentation. I really like it, so much so I bought one. I was torn between the Daytona 660 & this. The 660 looks a little better & the engine is more exciting too. It would no doubt be better on track but that doesn't interest me. However, the Suzuki engine isn't bad at all & the low down & midrange grunt is really impressive & made it more fun (& practical) on the road at legal speeds as you have to wind the Daytona up in comparison. I was also pleasantly surprised how much like a V-Twin the GSX8R felt too as I've had a four in the past & love them. The Suzuki was also more comfortable with a better dash & interface imo. It's built in Japan & had noticeably better build quality & comes with a 7 year 70,000 mile warranty if you service it with Suzuki annually. Ultimately it ended up being a pretty easy decision but the Triumph is still a nice bike.
Thanks for that, really interesting to read and what you say totally makes sense. Happy riding!
I love the look of that bike. I ride busa probably forever but if I would be looking for another one, that would be it for sure.
Great review and comparison. The 600s were exciting but are not really good everyday riders. Some say the Daytona is softer and dips under heavy braking, squats under heavy acceleration and is not as stable under pressure. SO which would you have for a year the GSX or Daytona?
Thanks Dan. I’m enjoying your videos. On this one, did I miss the answer you posed to your initial question, i.e. is it better than the Triumph?
Ha! Well, I fudged it a bit at the end of the riding commentary but I think the Triumph’s engine is definitely more charismatic and revvy but the Suzuki perhaps feels a bit more chuckable and fun, like a small bike with a grunty engine. And, I’ll confess, the intro/headline was more about clickbait!
As much as I like this bike, I really think Suzuki are missing on the 300-400cc market. Their line up has 125's then next comes 650cc. If Suzuki had a 400cc version, the GSX-4R if you will, I'd be at the dealer this week buying it. For me, 125 doesn't have enough power but a 700-800cc is too much for my riding requirements.
they had a 250 for like 1 year maybe 2 max, then it was gone 😅
Great review on a bike I like the look of, not sure how long you had the bike for or how many miles you rode it, but based on your time with the 8R how many mile would you get from it's 14 Lt tank Dan?
Like the proper roadtester I am (comes from the car stuff!) I always brim to brim and check true mileage, and it was down to flashing red final bar of gauge after 120 miles. Only took 8.6 litres to fill from there so clearly had some ways to go and you’d probably be good for 140 or so I’d imagine. Honda Hornet I had last year would easily do that and it’s a comparable size of engine and bike.
@@midlifecrisismotorcyclist Just do the maths! 8.6l is less than 2 gallons so you were getting over 60mpg. For a 14l tank you could safely do 180 miles. I have the 8S and get high 60s mpg at touring speeds so could nudge 200 though I tend to refill at 180m to avoid fuel anxiety. Aggressive riding will lower the range obviously but range can be decent when you need it to be. Really enjoyed your review.
@@andrewaldridge3801 Haha, well of course I know this NOW but this was the first time I got reserve so I was playing it safe. Having realised I had over four litres left I'll now be a lot happier going further and it's one of the advantages of having a bike in for a couple of weeks rather than a couple of hours, isn't it. And good insight from your ownership experience as well - you're happy with going to 180 as matter of course?
@@midlifecrisismotorcyclist I check the fuel guage of course which is always visible. Every now and again I scroll through to the fuel consumption info - which is very accurate - and as long as it's anywhere near 70 (which would give 210+) I know I'm good for 180. Alternatively just wait until the guage goes to the red zone and know that you have 3.5l left. I wish the tank was a bit bigger but I think the range is reasonable. Thanks for your reply; I've just discovered your channel but am going to subscribe.
I think I’ll keep my Street Triple.
This Suzuki is a practical bike and I think you could bump up the horsepower and the torque changing out the exhaust, modifying the air box and getting it tuned.
The Triumph Daytona is a nice looking bike. I think it will sell very well. I just hope triumph makes a special edition of the Daytona in the future with upgraded suspension and TFT.
If I had to pick personally for my needs between the Daytona or the 8R. I would pick the 8R. Your results may vary.
I think it depends on what you want out of your middle weight sports bike but i went with the triumph and pre ordered the Daytona 660
Top stuff, you'll love it! And two-nil to the Triumph on sales in the comments so far - any Suzuki buyers out there flying the flag for the GSX-8R?
It's hard to be a triumph snob if you are on a zuke .... I think it's requirement to have a Moore Mafia shirt if you ride a Suzuki
@midlifecrisismotorcyclist I'm looking at a totally different class, the GSX S1000gt, but between the 8r and the 660, I would like the 660
Hi mate, did u review an Audi R8 spyder before? You look so familiar to me.
The Suzuki makes perfect sense in everything it offers imo.
And yes, twins aren't best, singles are best and you will want to move away from a single only to get more power so if a twin gets you that power anything above it is just inferior,heavier, more complex, less reliable, more expensive, higher consuming without offering anything other than higher HP at the expense of mid and low range rpm torque.
Here you have big boy torque with what seems like the right amount of HP for the vast majority of riders.
And of course reliability and trouble-free ownership are an absolute must for the moderrn mature rider/family man.
You can see exactly at what the Suzuki masterminds were aiming at, they even included the quickshifter as standard.
"To rev match or not to rev match", this demographic isn't interested in such dillemas or clutch wrist pain and fatigue.
A small amount of enthusiasts will not be able to resist the temptation of the CBR 650Rs eye watering acceleration and epic soundtrack but they are in the minority and there has always been a bike for them, or plenty to choose from.
And that's the 650R, not even a Supersport, that's an even tinier demographic.
Nothing wrong with any of those but what about all the rest? the majority?
Suzuki struck gold with the GSX8R and so did the bike world imo.
Been a long time coming.
Not to sound like great motorcycles fulfilling that role didn't exist, like the SV650, but mid range, less focused than supersports do-it-all sportsbikes certainly not.
So far it seems the majority of riders want more HP, since the Hornet 750 sold more than twice as many even though the 8S is supposed to be better in every other department except hp and weight. Even old bikes like the CB650R sell better than the 8S. And when it comes to sport bikes, I would definitely take a 95 hp bike over an 83 hp bike. Or a much lighter and nimbler bike over the 205 kg of the 8R. It is good looking and seems to be a comfy and reliable bike for longer trips, but if I would want to travel comfy, I'd go by car or just buy an adventure bike. The new Daytona makes much more sense as an entry level sports bike, its got a good amount of top end power and is pretty good mid range too. It is too bad Suzuki made their new engine so heavy and still did not give it the full 95 hp that an A2 capable bike is allowed to have. Now they have the heaviest bikes in their class with the lowest amount of power. They will still sell a lot of them, but will it be enough to bring Suzuki back into the top 5 motorcycle manufacturers by sales? I doubt it.
@@DashRendar308 The 8S though is the naked version going into an already established and crowded market, doesn't bring much new to the table and has to go up against something with the Honda badge on it and a most competitive price.
Honda haven't converted their Hornet into a Sportsbike have they, so the competition for the 8R is very different to the 8S.
The market the 8R is aiming at I believe will go for torque over high end reving prowess with eyes shut, it's a completely different character of a bike one that needs be reved to perform over one that puts a smile on your face at any speed you twist the throttle.
It offers enjoyment at every mile without one having to risk their neck for it.
Now we'll have to just wait and see of course.
My problem is that suspension.... Come on man, I know they have a better fork, sell just the fork for a license dealer swap......
I don't like singles due to vibration. Power is less important to me. I'd get an electric bike if they had decent range.
@judge831 have you seen Kawasakis news hybrid motorcycles?
Better than Yamaha and Kawasaki’s offerings imo. That R7 should’ve shipped with no less than 90hp. Ninja 650 been screaming for a bump up as well
Is there any vibration
Pretty smooth for a twin!
It's a confusingly heavy 450lbs (205 kg). So if you like heavier bikes with less horsepower, then yes, is is better?
Considering triumph guys hate it's called a Daytona and is just a couple hundred away from a much better speed triple, you can count them out, then factor in so many options are an add on cost for the triumph, so that's not good and then add on I've already seen 8.3k price + Suzuki financing more people..... The day... The Jax 660 is only looking like a Luke warm motorcycle
Better than a Tuono 660?
I just sat on the daytona today cause i thpught that wat i wanted the most but i found rather uncomfortable
I think your vids are quite good but the audio is terrible could hardly hear what you're saying as you're riding, sort it out and you might on to something.
The weight average? I will say the weight is HEAVY side of the class....
I have a preorder in for a Daytona 660. I started on a ninja 400 and I’m not interested in another p-twin engine. Yes those engines are practical, yes they’re torquey. However, I would rather have power and torque more evenly distributed over a higher rev range than the GSX8R can provide. Personally, I also think the Daytona is a more attractive looking bike but that’s just my opinion.
I agree the Daytona is that little bit more special. A nice balance like you say. Great character. The ninja 400 though is a cracking bike in its own right. I have one of those amongst others and it’s one of those bikes even with 25 years of riding I just love buzzing around on it. It really never fails to put a smile on my face. Generally 2 to 3 gears in a row you can use full potential and hit the red line. Very engaging with light weight and beautiful gear box. I tend to use it more than my 1000cc bikes. Better for the everyday road’s.
I was looking at the 8r along with the Hornet and zx4rr. I put the other 2 bikes above it for fun factor. Looks, I’d put the 8r second, with the zx4rr first. I generally stick to Japanese bikes (reliability). Strangely, I ended up with a ninja 1000sx. The dealer insisted I try it and he was absolutely right. Cost was more, but worth every penny IMO. I really think the 8r and 8s look silly without gold folks. I just can’t get past that when I see one. OCD playing up.
Best of luck with the Daytona!
@@florme6494 I actually picked up my Daytona last Saturday and it's phenomenal.
Is no one going to mention this guy has some stones riding in the wet? 😂 it might not be completely pushed, but i avoid the rain and ride like an old man if i get caught. 😅
Not sure about that, probably more I’m just so new to it not to know any better and/or still fired up by the novelty I’ll go out rain or shine!
It's the UK, you learn to ride in the wet otherwise you don't get out much
This just needs an exhaust
That 650 ninja looks bad A
you didn't compare them almost at all wth wasted 22min
with out watching nor having rode either. no
Suzuki just can't get away from it's own tatty Suzuki built quality, which to me always a let down...
205 kg is not average. Its a fat old pig compared to the R7 and RS660. Even the Ninja 650 is 10 kg lighter. The 8R has almost the same weight as the CBR650R both are on the heavy end of this class.
The R7 makes a lot less power and the RS660 can be SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive depending on where you live.
@@justin2956A lot less? 66 hp at the rear wheel vs 77 hp at the rear wheel. That is a 12% difference. Anyway, the top speed is the same apparently, so 12% more does not translate to a faster bike in this case. The 8R might accelerate slightly faster, but if the road is more curvy I would say the R7 has the upper hand. I like the 8R, its a perfectly fine sports touring bike, but I would personally not buy one over the new Daytona or even an RS660, which is almost the same price here. When it comes to the R7, that would depend on what I want to do with it, but in general I dont like heavy bikes, so I am tending more towards the R7.
@@DashRendar308 RS660 is 13.4k EUR in The Netherlands versus 11k for the 8R. That's not a small difference at all, but you do get a lot more features for that price. The RS660 was not for me though (severe vibrations, seating, steering) so I went for the 8R.
It's a pathetic bike. End of debate.