I have 350 f sport. I will be getting the 500 at the end of the year hopefully. The ride and quality with Lexus will always speak for themselves. My cuz has ISF with tune and fbo’s, and has had it for 10 years plus. Everyone with BMW, Mercedes, ext… are now on their second or third car. LONGEVITY!
Lexus is great car & I looked at the 50O but the price of the Lexus for what you get is a major jump but I compare it to the TLX Type S & the inside of the Lexus is really tight
Come on dude. BMW, Mercedes, ext will last years with maintenance. I love how lexus fan boys love trying to discount the Germans because they know Lexus isn't on the same level performance wise. I'll take those Germans with their better tech and performance over a old ass slow IS350 which can't even beat the 4 cylinders BMW or Mercedes. Is Lexus reliable? Yes but that's where it ends.
@@v60polestar88 I will take the reliability over performance any day. I’ve witnessed it many times over if family and friends who have a BMW or Audi, even Mercedes stay playing at the dealership or private owned shops. For example, it cost my cousin $17k to fix a valve gasket and cover on his X5 M Competition. Like I told him, BMW, Black Man Weeping. Toyota for the win.
Finally, you drove an IS500. My current IS500. I have the Borla & Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tires. Super grippy. I had a 2022 launch Edition which is the same color as the one your driving.
@@dippitydab8270 my point is that these are NOT the motors that Lexus and Acura made their reputation with. So reliability is not assured. Ford and Chevy make more and better v8s, and turbo cars are inherently less reliable.
Great review! I’ve had an IS500 now for 6 mo. Love it. Cloudburst with the same red interior. You need to move the knob over once more to Sport +! Really tightens everything up more than Sport. Chassis and suspension firms up so the body roll is almost gone. But, yeah the tranny and lack of manual holds it back and the Integra Type S is a GREAT drivers car. I just wanted a little more comfort and a nicer cabin but with tons of power. Cheers!
I will say, I find it really odd how often I see people cross-shopping or comparing the ITS and IS 500. The cars could not be more different. I think you did a great job highlighting how the IS 500 is not exactly a super-sporty vehicle like the ITS. I love mine, and while I'd like to sit here and think it's just as good to drive as the ITS, like you, I don't like to be a fanboy about it. I know the ITS is going to be sharper in the handling department and more involving thanks to the manual trans. But I like that I can drive my IS 500 just about any time I want, doing pretty much anything, and feel comfortable and confident in it. And, it is RWD, like you stated.
I really enjoyed this, Que! I currently have an A-Spec CVT Integra since its debut, but thinking about jumping the gun and getting the last of the mohicans whenever they come back with the IS-F. I'm not sure the 500 is it for me.
Really interesting comparison. I believe the TLX-S is a closer direct comparison to the IS500, but these are defiantly close enough they could be cross shopped. Which soon to be gone forever tech do you value more, manual transmission or NA v8?
Best thing about the integra is the manual transmission. But it's an apples to oranges comparison with the 5 liter v8. While the integra is about 120hp lower, it's also lighter so it might actually be the better car imo. But good luck convincing anyone else 😂
Great video brother " Happy Father's Day!" For my money I'm going with the Acura Integra Type S mainly because of the manual gearbox, but man that Lexus V8 sounds intoxicating! If they offered that Lexus with a manual gearbox I'd be all over it!
This is crazy. We low key gonna be just alike soon enough. I’m going to school right now for mechanical engineering (3ish more years left!) and you’re a quality engineer. You’re making some good dough, got a wife, good house, good attitude, chill, and got some dope ass cars. I want all that. Big inspiration right now for me to keep pushing with college but ngl it’s been a little rough. I’m gonna stay tuned as best I can 💪
I'm a sucker for a 5.0 as I've had multiple Mustangs and have an 03 E500 Mercedes with a 5.0, eventually I traded sides on Ford when I got a C7 three years ago. Fast forward to today I wanted a more comfortable 4 door sport sedan. I did shop the Lexus IS500. Great car I love the 5.0, I eventually went with the CT4-V Blackwing though. Thats also a good competitor with your car.
I had ordered my IS500 before the Acura Integra Type S came out. I was an original 98 ITR owner and wanted another but I'm glad I kept the IS500. Local dealers were marking up the Acura 5-10k. I miss having a manual but the V8 and ride quality is amazing.
Technically the IS500 and the TLX are in the same class, not the Integra. You are 100% correct, the IS500 is the embodiment of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde! Incidentally, I've used the same descriptor on other reviews. 🙂 Hopefully in your full coverage review, you will click the car into Sport S+. You only went to Sport S, which holds gears longer, but doesn't do anything to the suspension. (And the response to the paddle shifting is the same as Normal mode.) That's why it was still super soft in the turns. Ultimately...this is still a Lexus and the most aggressive setting will still be more compliant than everyone else. However, if you click it into Manual along with the Sport S+, you will feel an upgrade in the suspension's tautness and the transmission's response to the paddle shifters. I drive mine in Manual and Sport S+ all day, every day. The 500 isn't perfect, but it's pretty damn good. 😀 Thanks for posting!
@@QueTheChaotic ....and to get the most out of manual mode, shift after 4500K rpms. The gas mileage will seriously suck as a result, but that's where the fun is! 🙂
Great comparison review Que, very thorough. Just wanted to make a quick point, you never put the IS500 in Sport S plus mode, once you in Sport mode one more clockwise turn of mode switch will put it in Sport S plus mode, it changes the instrument cluster, boosts throttle response, makes shifts bit crisper and stiffens up suspension a little more. I agree hard to utilize full potential of car on public roads, you hitting 100 before you even know it. Extremely comfortable, but you right you do feel the weight. Engine, sound are marvelous but shifts are really slow especially at less than 500 rpm, and steering is not that tight. Overall great daily, I'm averaging about 15 mpg.
I know it's a press car, but revving the IS 500 on a cold start like that made me flinch. And before you ask how I know, I have one. On cold start, it has a little backfire like yours did in the video. When it's warm, it does not do the backfire anymore. In addition, it sounded like the redline was at about 5,000 RPM or so based on when the rev limiter kicked in when you revved it.
@@3on4offI’m very much a car person and there is nothing wrong with the FWD on the Type R or Type S. Car guys appreciate a good car even if it’s not their cup of tea. I don’t see much of an advantage of RWD to be honest, since I’m not one to do burnouts, power slides or donuts. If I wanted to drag race, id go for AWD before choosing any RWD.
on integra 1st gear. is the boost set to max? on my 2009 Mazdaspeed 3. 1st gear the boost was cut to half psi. apex tune allowed full boost in first gear. was running 235 to 245 tires up front. when I had it on 205 the car had little to no traction in first and second gear. 2018 Mazda miata fbo. 225 rear tires. good amount of grip from the dig. you have a mx-5 fob vs porsche. honda needs to bring back a s2k with this engine. they don't even need to update the body style. if mazda had this engine in the miata. shhhhh.
I owned 2 FK8 CTRs(one FBO/400ish hp)and that added 12-15k in cost for lightweight wheels,parts,labor,tune,etc. AND I was still planning on new fuel lines/PRL E85 kit,oil cooler etc. The car was still slow off the line but in fairness I requested more top end power…which was great but like my tuner said…they could give me a lot more power but that’s where reliability issues will surface. For that reason I’m considering the turn key IS500 with its 472hp bulletproof V-8. I realize it’s apples and oranges but the road noise is a lot less in the Lexus plus it can be had with the excellent Mark Levinson sound system…on top of that sweet sounding engine. I know the mpg isn’t the greatest if you’re on it but I’ve heard it actually can reach the upper 20’s/low 30’s if in eco/highway cruising. My point is…for the same ballpark price…that can be financed…a fun,reliable V-8 can be had…before it goes away.
@@QueTheChaotic Honestly…2 cars that I’m considering in the 60-70k price range are the IS500 and the Audi RS3. The Audi makes me second guess long term ownership because their reliability history hasn’t been the greatest. It is stupid fast and a couple of mods will make it cartoon fast…which almost makes the risk/reliability gamble worth it…😁
@@QueTheChaotic That’s no lie which why I hesitate. There’s something to be said for a car brand like Lexus which spends more time on the road than in the shop. I’ve owned a 97 Lexus LX450,99 Accord,2014 Honda Odyssey and a Lexus CT200h…all of which have over 200k mileage. The Accord had 345k and still didn’t leak any oil which is why I bought a Type R for commuting once the kids went off to college. Put over 80k in about a year…no issues.(300 mile round trip to work). Traded in first CTR so I could mod a new one which I did finally…then a delivery van driver rear ended/totaled it…hence having to search for a new toy. Choices seem limited right now as far as a reasonably priced(45-60) sports car that’s fast/reliable. Toyota has the new MR2 and Celica coming out with AWD that’s giving me potential EVO vibes when modified so that’s cool. The Supra is fast/good looking but it’s similar to the Camaro where you feel like you’re sitting in a hole. Fingers crossed on my eventual choice or choices depending on price. Just want to put as many cool ICE toys in my garage before they stop making them…
Nice review. I have a 2015 RC F and I Love It! When you are out there running in manual mode doing the haul azz, at no time are you thinking this interior is out dated. Also, the transmissions shift quicker than you think. Both are nice cars the owners are going to love.
Que, Nice video sir.. You’ve driven some great cars in your time so I can’t compare cars on your level. However I own a 2011 IS-F and my ITS and they’ve been perfect for me.. Keep up the good work!!👊🏾❤️🙏🏽💯
I have the IS500. You're not putting it into Sport+, which is even sportier. You also should probably turn off the traction control for full effect. Once the car warms up in that mode upshifts and downshifts will be pro manual driver fast, and sound like it too. I'm a manual lover myself, but even though the transmission is "slow" it still brings a smile to my face because it sounds like a manual driving it.
I love the Dr Jekyll Mr Hyde analogy for the Lexus 😆. Solid comparison, very detailed. I have an RCF which has the same engine as the IS500. There's a lot that I like about the Integra too
Thanks for the video. I initially was debating between the Civic R and the Integra S. Now that I decided on the Integra S, the IS500 is now in the running. I’m heavily leaning to the Integra S. It seems like the middle ground between the civic and the IS.
@@PracticalMinimalist it really is. The IS500 is very nice but cramped. I chose the ITs for the manual. If the IS500 came with a manual I would have been all over it
That Lexus IS500 is awesome and will last forever. However...the back seat situation...it's for children. I also wish they'd gone full F instead of F-Sport. Thanks for the great review.
Lexus🎉 we’ve owned them since the 1990s SC400, GS300, GS430, LX, GX and they’re forever excellent. Mom has had 2 Acura TL’s a 2002 TL & a 2022 TLX and they’re really nice but just a step below the Lexus honestly. And I’m going to get a LC500 next!
That Lexus is sweet. I know you said you like manuals better. I used to feel the same way, but these newer automatics are nice and, in some cases, have been proven to actually be faster than having a manual.
@MK3504 because we finally have come to a point where autos have become better than the manuals. Why push a clutch in when you can go faster and drive more comfortably without one? Lol
Yeah, autos are faster. I can’t explain or defend it, but my personal fun factor goes up 50% with a clutch pedal, more if the shifter is as good as Honda/Acura’s. I couldn’t care less how fast I get to 60 as long as it feels fast.
I test drove a Integra Type S after owning a Honda Civic Type R then drove a IS500. I took the IS home it might not be quite the drives car compared to the Type S but as a daily it’s much better for me. The quality shines through the V8 sounds great compared to a 4 banger and it’s rear wheel drive.
It feels modern but more retro I’d say. Certainly better than an Infiniti. Quality is excellent. I thought it felt nicer and better immediately sitting in it compared to my 21 TLX ASpec. That’s a better cabin than the Integra. But, to your point, there is some tech that was better in the Acura. I do miss the ambient lighting too sometimes. All the HVAC also works better in the Lexus. They just don’t make a lot of these. All are made in the Tahara plant in Japan as well so fit ‘n finish and build quality is excellent. Acuras is Ohio. Cheers.
Agreed, Lexus doesn't really have a direct competitor to the Integra Type S. Maybe the Lexus LBX or UX if they made an F model. Or if there was a Lexus version of the GR Corolla.
Love the V8 obviously so I'd pick lexus only because of the V8. Integra Type S win for me in every other category. Looks way better and more aggressive. Better track machine. Very unique. I see is 350s everywhere and is 500 is exactly the same just longer hood to accommodate V8 engine
Untrained eye , yes just a hood bulge . Fenders are longer on is500, rear defuser is different as well. Whenever I see civic type R’s or Integra type S’s. They slow down and ride behind me like I’m law enforcement . I also have a 2jz forged is300 build 6 speed manual swap. I’ll just SKIP the whole 2.0L turbo thing.
I looked into both these cars up here in the northeast, focusing on the integra. But that Lexus though. I ended up securing an allocation for a shelter green ranger raptor. There's so many good cars out here now it's tough to go wrong. Nice car bro
@QueTheChaotic thanks man. With the roads up here I felt the ranger raptor would be best and smooth things out without worrying about low pro tires and winters etc. I've been through that with audis.....not fun dodging every little pothole and popping two tires on the same side with one spare (that isn't full size) it's gonna be fun up here!
I just saw a IS500 on the road this week. I didn't know what it was until I saw the rear badge. I was going to mention it to you, because I thought it looked like a good competitor for your Type S.
Personally I wanted the IS500 so bad, but at 51 I am done with sedan. Kids are driving now and I am back to coupe. Had a 94 SC400 when I was you younger and still miss it. Will pick up a LC500h or a Porsche 992 in a couple of years after I gift my son my ES350 when he is out of college.
@@wongchai807 Realistically i don’t really want a V8. I just bought my wife a new NX350h and I am so impressed with the hybrid, our first, my next car will be a hybrid. Unless I can find a really good deal low mileage 3YO CPO Porsche 992.
@@jml9550 i see nothing wrong with the hybrid but why when you have a legendary v8 in the regular one? The 992 has twin v6? I'm bias but I'm going lc500.
Que coming from a 20si coupe owner thats tuned it’s definitely I know worth the ITS over the 500 the ITS with my same mods nd tune would be screaming and poppin cuz my Sí is very dramatic most ppl always tell me they never knew they could sound this good shit me too . Cant wait to big turbo this and the ITS !
as an owner of an RCF i get why alot of peeps like m4s and such better. the lexus product is sport luxury. i can drive this thing for days and never feel tired or uncomfortable.
Is 500 for the lux and the power. And the fact that is “outdated” is what makes it special. It has a CD player. Being in my 30s I would enjoy the Is more for sure
As a Type R owner idg why people say u cant daily a CTR. Its a Honda Civic. If your not 80 it will be fine. Ive gone from GA and Dallas Texas and back several times to check on my uncle. It was way more comfortable than doing it in my old Ford Ranger. I feel like car reviewers need to toughen up. ❤
Waiting for the refreshed IS500, they stated they'll keep the V8 despite new models moving into electric/hybrid powertrains. Not a fan of paying premium for outdated technology. The only thing holding this engine up is the transmission.
I would be surprised if it refreshes with V8 but you never know. There is nothing really missing from the tech in the 500. Maybe a HUD. Wireless android is a mehhhh, $50 box add, if you need it.
Looks like the Lexus has more body roll. Definitely a lot more outdated interior. I’ve never really been lexus fan myself. But v8 is a nice touch both cars look great.
I thought I was the only one who is a fan of the IS500 and the ITS and is having trouble deciding between the two for completely different reasons. The IS500 is in another league when it comes to fit and finish and quality. The panel fit is superior to the ITS. The major draw of the ITS is the 6-speed manual and the roomy interior, but I was somewhat disappointed by the panel fit. The ITS is also in its first year so hopefully some of its quirks will be ironed out in the next couple of model years. The IS500 on the other hand is proven and the last of a long line of Lexus V8s. Having now driven both, I think the ITS wins for me because of the 6MT but I can’t help but thinking about the IS500…
I saw this video and my jaw dropped. This is the exact comparison I was looking for. Currently have a type s and just feel for the price I wish it was better. But I drove a 500 and realized the engine is the reason you’d buy it. Doesn’t drive better.
@@Supabash Well I have an IS 500 and I just might end up keeping it for 10 years lol. It's my daily - I know there are better-handling cars out there, but I can still enjoy driving it on the mountain roads from time to time and yet still have a very comfy daily.
@@ARentz07 yea that is what I’m thinking as well. I’m 30 and realizing more and more that I want a daily with a dose of fun rather than a racer with a dose of comfort. Lexus interior also destroys integra. And you’d be like yeah of course it should it cost so much more…..except it doesn’t. type s is expensive
With my current fiasco with Acura, I would choose the Lexus to own for 10 years. While I love sporty cars, I enjoy reliability and lot more. The type S is a terrible value for what it offers. I still enjoy driving it a lot but I couldn’t myself keeping it for 10 years.
@@QueTheChaotic yeah I saw that. Jalopnik even wrote an article about it. I agree, the Lexus far better long term buy. Even if the transmission sucks. lol
Hate the long gears on the IS500... there's a pleasure to them, as it lets you sit with the screaming V8 for a longer time... but i wished you could play around with snappy short gears a bit more... the top of 3rd gear is almost 100mph... that's ridiculous.
I have 350 f sport. I will be getting the 500 at the end of the year hopefully. The ride and quality with Lexus will always speak for themselves. My cuz has ISF with tune and fbo’s, and has had it for 10 years plus. Everyone with BMW, Mercedes, ext… are now on their second or third car. LONGEVITY!
i hope you can buy a brand new Lexus IS500 sooner than later because Lexus needs sales! 😂
Lexus is great car & I looked at the 50O but the price of the Lexus for what you get is a major jump but I compare it to the TLX Type S & the inside of the Lexus is really tight
Had an ISF for 11 years and zero issues. Felt as tight as the day I bought it.
Come on dude. BMW, Mercedes, ext will last years with maintenance. I love how lexus fan boys love trying to discount the Germans because they know Lexus isn't on the same level performance wise. I'll take those Germans with their better tech and performance over a old ass slow IS350 which can't even beat the 4 cylinders BMW or Mercedes. Is Lexus reliable? Yes but that's where it ends.
@@v60polestar88 I will take the reliability over performance any day. I’ve witnessed it many times over if family and friends who have a BMW or Audi, even Mercedes stay playing at the dealership or private owned shops. For example, it cost my cousin $17k to fix a valve gasket and cover on his X5 M Competition. Like I told him, BMW, Black Man Weeping. Toyota for the win.
The Lexus with the V8 anytime!!!
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All day everyday!!
With an exhaust tho. I feel it's muffled a little too much out the back. Only Lexus V8 you can actually hear is the LC500
Same I have a 2018 Lexus GS350 f sport RWD
@@AllEyezOnRodI even pick that over type r cause it has no issues and I could make faster easier
Finally, you drove an IS500. My current IS500. I have the Borla & Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tires. Super grippy. I had a 2022 launch Edition which is the same color as the one your driving.
I know it sounds amazing with that exhaust.
Most reliable V8 sportscar vs most reliable turbo 4
Sure, because Lexus makes so many v8s and 320hp turbocharged i4 engines are reliable.
@dllemm the integra is better because you're comparing it with a high end Lexus that doesn't much things better
@@dllemm they been making them for years so idk what your on about ls430, GX, ls460, isf,rcf,gsf, gs450, sc430
@@dippitydab8270 my point is that these are NOT the motors that Lexus and Acura made their reputation with. So reliability is not assured. Ford and Chevy make more and better v8s, and turbo cars are inherently less reliable.
Great review! I’ve had an IS500 now for 6 mo. Love it. Cloudburst with the same red interior. You need to move the knob over once more to Sport +! Really tightens everything up more than Sport. Chassis and suspension firms up so the body roll is almost gone.
But, yeah the tranny and lack of manual holds it back and the Integra Type S is a GREAT drivers car. I just wanted a little more comfort and a nicer cabin but with tons of power. Cheers!
Thanks for the tip! I'll make sure to do sport+ mode in a full review
I will say, I find it really odd how often I see people cross-shopping or comparing the ITS and IS 500. The cars could not be more different. I think you did a great job highlighting how the IS 500 is not exactly a super-sporty vehicle like the ITS. I love mine, and while I'd like to sit here and think it's just as good to drive as the ITS, like you, I don't like to be a fanboy about it. I know the ITS is going to be sharper in the handling department and more involving thanks to the manual trans. But I like that I can drive my IS 500 just about any time I want, doing pretty much anything, and feel comfortable and confident in it. And, it is RWD, like you stated.
There is no universe that I would pick an ITS over the IS500. Enjoy your ride.
Thanks Q .
For my $$$$ it’s the Lexus .
Prefer the IS500..N/A V8
Both very nice vehicles. If I had to choose, I'd save a few buck and row my own gears with the ITS!
I really enjoyed this, Que! I currently have an A-Spec CVT Integra since its debut, but thinking about jumping the gun and getting the last of the mohicans whenever they come back with the IS-F. I'm not sure the 500 is it for me.
Thank you
I dont thinl they are doing a full ISF...sad to say...may need to get the RCF instead
Really interesting comparison. I believe the TLX-S is a closer direct comparison to the IS500, but these are defiantly close enough they could be cross shopped. Which soon to be gone forever tech do you value more, manual transmission or NA v8?
@@mfmf100 no one cross shops a civic with a made in japan RWD Lexus
I have an IS500 and love it. The Type S is nice but a n/a V8 is hard to pass up.
Best thing about the integra is the manual transmission. But it's an apples to oranges comparison with the 5 liter v8. While the integra is about 120hp lower, it's also lighter so it might actually be the better car imo. But good luck convincing anyone else 😂
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integra is a better drivers car, IS 500 is a superior vehicle in almost every other aspect
If this is a FL5 CTR then this is a different story lol. IS500>ITR but CTR>IS500
At the track the integra makes cars way above it look shitty. It really depends on the person
Love the IS500 styling, it's futuristic
I do too
I hate Toyota/Lexus interiors.
Think they have worst looking interiors of all brands.
Greatly appreciate your candor and hitting on the experience in both
My pleasure
Great video brother " Happy Father's Day!" For my money I'm going with the Acura Integra Type S mainly because of the manual gearbox, but man that Lexus V8 sounds intoxicating! If they offered that Lexus with a manual gearbox I'd be all over it!
Happy Father's day to you as well. Manual swapped IS coming up
This is crazy. We low key gonna be just alike soon enough. I’m going to school right now for mechanical engineering (3ish more years left!) and you’re a quality engineer. You’re making some good dough, got a wife, good house, good attitude, chill, and got some dope ass cars. I want all that. Big inspiration right now for me to keep pushing with college but ngl it’s been a little rough. I’m gonna stay tuned as best I can 💪
🙏🏾 hang in there. It’s well worth it.
It will take a while before you make GOOD money as a mechanical engineer. But don’t give up, it’s worth it.
I'm a sucker for a 5.0 as I've had multiple Mustangs and have an 03 E500 Mercedes with a 5.0, eventually I traded sides on Ford when I got a C7 three years ago. Fast forward to today I wanted a more comfortable 4 door sport sedan. I did shop the Lexus IS500. Great car I love the 5.0, I eventually went with the CT4-V Blackwing though. Thats also a good competitor with your car.
The Blackwing is very nice. I’ll bring one on the channel in the near future
Man every time your shoot a video of the Type S I start thinking about trading in my Integra Aspec.... 😅
The a spec with the old accord and 2.0T and some aero, would have been clutch...
Both nice cars but the Lexus is in a different league, less hot rod a velvet V8 with a premium interior.
That part.
Manual is a must for me❤️❤️❤️❤️been driving for over 30years.
I had ordered my IS500 before the Acura Integra Type S came out. I was an original 98 ITR owner and wanted another but I'm glad I kept the IS500. Local dealers were marking up the Acura 5-10k. I miss having a manual but the V8 and ride quality is amazing.
Technically the IS500 and the TLX are in the same class, not the Integra. You are 100% correct, the IS500 is the embodiment of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde! Incidentally, I've used the same descriptor on other reviews. 🙂 Hopefully in your full coverage review, you will click the car into Sport S+. You only went to Sport S, which holds gears longer, but doesn't do anything to the suspension. (And the response to the paddle shifting is the same as Normal mode.) That's why it was still super soft in the turns. Ultimately...this is still a Lexus and the most aggressive setting will still be more compliant than everyone else. However, if you click it into Manual along with the Sport S+, you will feel an upgrade in the suspension's tautness and the transmission's response to the paddle shifters. I drive mine in Manual and Sport S+ all day, every day. The 500 isn't perfect, but it's pretty damn good. 😀 Thanks for posting!
Thanks for watching and sharing. I'm about to go film the individual review right now so I'll make sure to go in Sport+. Thanks a lot. Awesome car
@@QueTheChaotic Woot! Woot! Can't wait to see it. New Sub!
@@QueTheChaotic ....and to get the most out of manual mode, shift after 4500K rpms. The gas mileage will seriously suck as a result, but that's where the fun is! 🙂
I’ll take the Acura because of the manual and you can wring-out the 4 cyl. turbo. The Lexus is smooth though, and the quality is top notch.
Great comparison review Que, very thorough. Just wanted to make a quick point, you never put the IS500 in Sport S plus mode, once you in Sport mode one more clockwise turn of mode switch will put it in Sport S plus mode, it changes the instrument cluster, boosts throttle response, makes shifts bit crisper and stiffens up suspension a little more. I agree hard to utilize full potential of car on public roads, you hitting 100 before you even know it. Extremely comfortable, but you right you do feel the weight. Engine, sound are marvelous but shifts are really slow especially at less than 500 rpm, and steering is not that tight. Overall great daily, I'm averaging about 15 mpg.
I know it's a press car, but revving the IS 500 on a cold start like that made me flinch.
And before you ask how I know, I have one. On cold start, it has a little backfire like yours did in the video. When it's warm, it does not do the backfire anymore. In addition, it sounded like the redline was at about 5,000 RPM or so based on when the rev limiter kicked in when you revved it.
lol damn. Ain’t no getting around this guy 😂
to each their own.. both are amazing cars.. but i doubt anyone is picking the acura over the is500
You'd be surprised. Someone in the comments sold their IS500 for the Acura.
It just depends on what you're looking for. The Acura is the more lightweight, driver-focused car. The Lexus has more of a grand-touring vibe.
The Acura is a poor value because the bean counters went crazy on it. There's very little to justify the premium over a Type R.
Most car people don’t want FWD cars.
@@3on4offI’m very much a car person and there is nothing wrong with the FWD on the Type R or Type S. Car guys appreciate a good car even if it’s not their cup of tea. I don’t see much of an advantage of RWD to be honest, since I’m not one to do burnouts, power slides or donuts. If I wanted to drag race, id go for AWD before choosing any RWD.
on integra 1st gear. is the boost set to max? on my 2009 Mazdaspeed 3. 1st gear the boost was cut to half psi. apex tune allowed full boost in first gear. was running 235 to 245 tires up front. when I had it on 205 the car had little to no traction in first and second gear. 2018 Mazda miata fbo. 225 rear tires. good amount of grip from the dig. you have a mx-5 fob vs porsche. honda needs to bring back a s2k with this engine. they don't even need to update the body style. if mazda had this engine in the miata. shhhhh.
I think 1st gear was capped
I owned 2 FK8 CTRs(one FBO/400ish hp)and that added 12-15k in cost for lightweight wheels,parts,labor,tune,etc. AND I was still planning on new fuel lines/PRL E85 kit,oil cooler etc. The car was still slow off the line but in fairness I requested more top end power…which was great but like my tuner said…they could give me a lot more power but that’s where reliability issues will surface. For that reason I’m considering the turn key IS500 with its 472hp bulletproof V-8. I realize it’s apples and oranges but the road noise is a lot less in the Lexus plus it can be had with the excellent Mark Levinson sound system…on top of that sweet sounding engine. I know the mpg isn’t the greatest if you’re on it but I’ve heard it actually can reach the upper 20’s/low 30’s if in eco/highway cruising. My point is…for the same ballpark price…that can be financed…a fun,reliable V-8 can be had…before it goes away.
I def feel you on that decision
@@QueTheChaotic Honestly…2 cars that I’m considering in the 60-70k price range are the IS500 and the Audi RS3. The Audi makes me second guess long term ownership because their reliability history hasn’t been the greatest. It is stupid fast and a couple of mods will make it cartoon fast…which almost makes the risk/reliability gamble worth it…😁
@@justwingingit1 gotta love the 5 cylinder engine too. I hear it’s a great car as well. You know how Audis and be though. Not the most reliable.
@@QueTheChaotic That’s no lie which why I hesitate. There’s something to be said for a car brand like Lexus which spends more time on the road than in the shop. I’ve owned a 97 Lexus LX450,99 Accord,2014 Honda Odyssey and a Lexus CT200h…all of which have over 200k mileage. The Accord had 345k and still didn’t leak any oil which is why I bought a Type R for commuting once the kids went off to college. Put over 80k in about a year…no issues.(300 mile round trip to work). Traded in first CTR so I could mod a new one which I did finally…then a delivery van driver rear ended/totaled it…hence having to search for a new toy. Choices seem limited right now as far as a reasonably priced(45-60) sports car that’s fast/reliable. Toyota has the new MR2 and Celica coming out with AWD that’s giving me potential EVO vibes when modified so that’s cool. The Supra is fast/good looking but it’s similar to the Camaro where you feel like you’re sitting in a hole. Fingers crossed on my eventual choice or choices depending on price. Just want to put as many cool ICE toys in my garage before they stop making them…
OMG, respect the solid line! No pass or lane change.
The front end on that Integra Type S is
😮💨🤌🏼
Nice review. I have a 2015 RC F and I Love It! When you are out there running in manual mode doing the haul azz, at no time are you thinking this interior is out dated. Also, the transmissions shift quicker than you think. Both are nice cars the owners are going to love.
Great Comparison!!! If only the 500 came with the 6-Spd.
Que,
Nice video sir.. You’ve driven some great cars in your time so I can’t compare cars on your level. However I own a 2011 IS-F and my ITS and they’ve been perfect for me.. Keep up the good work!!👊🏾❤️🙏🏽💯
Thanks a lot man! You have a great 1-2 combo
You can't beat the built quality of a Lexus IS which is still made in Japan till this day.
I like how you reviewed them. Keep it up!
I have the IS500. You're not putting it into Sport+, which is even sportier. You also should probably turn off the traction control for full effect. Once the car warms up in that mode upshifts and downshifts will be pro manual driver fast, and sound like it too. I'm a manual lover myself, but even though the transmission is "slow" it still brings a smile to my face because it sounds like a manual driving it.
I love the Dr Jekyll Mr Hyde analogy for the Lexus 😆. Solid comparison, very detailed. I have an RCF which has the same engine as the IS500. There's a lot that I like about the Integra too
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What an awesome comparison video. Two great cars, and even though he owns one of them, he came across unbiased. Excellent.
Thank you kindly
Great video thanks, I’m looking at these, i wish Lexus would have a standard in the IS
Thanks for the video. I initially was debating between the Civic R and the Integra S. Now that I decided on the Integra S, the IS500 is now in the running. I’m heavily leaning to the Integra S. It seems like the middle ground between the civic and the IS.
@@PracticalMinimalist it really is. The IS500 is very nice but cramped. I chose the ITs for the manual. If the IS500 came with a manual I would have been all over it
Lexus IS500 would get my $$. Great review!
Did you ever consider the Genesis G70? And what was the reason why over the Acura F-Type
I’ve been trying to review the G70. I just prefer having a manual.
That Lexus IS500 is awesome and will last forever. However...the back seat situation...it's for children. I also wish they'd gone full F instead of F-Sport. Thanks for the great review.
Both are nice cars 👍🏻 I'd still go with the ITS though
Lexus🎉 we’ve owned them since the 1990s SC400, GS300, GS430, LX, GX and they’re forever excellent. Mom has had 2 Acura TL’s a 2002 TL & a 2022 TLX and they’re really nice but just a step below the Lexus honestly.
And I’m going to get a LC500 next!
Nice!
That Lexus is sweet. I know you said you like manuals better. I used to feel the same way, but these newer automatics are nice and, in some cases, have been proven to actually be faster than having a manual.
the reason to go manual is definitely not the speed--all about the driver involvement.
It's 2024 and people can't fathom why others would want a manual
@MK3504 because we finally have come to a point where autos have become better than the manuals. Why push a clutch in when you can go faster and drive more comfortably without one? Lol
Automatic will usually be faster than manual when you have a high torque car.
Yeah, autos are faster. I can’t explain or defend it, but my personal fun factor goes up 50% with a clutch pedal, more if the shifter is as good as Honda/Acura’s. I couldn’t care less how fast I get to 60 as long as it feels fast.
I test drove a Integra Type S after owning a Honda Civic Type R then drove a IS500. I took the IS home it might not be quite the drives car compared to the Type S but as a daily it’s much better for me. The quality shines through the V8 sounds great compared to a 4 banger and it’s rear wheel drive.
IS is missing a pedal. I would rather drive a 4 banger with a stick shift over a v8 with a slushbox auto.
@@your_alter_ego v8 with a sluhbox auto > a fuckin crapbox 4 cylinder
Great review, should have done more in sport + in the 500 thoo kind of didn’t get to rly see what the car can do🤝🏽
Thanks a lot. In the individual review of the IS500 I "discovered" Sport+. It really wakes it up
@@QueTheChaotic Yeahh I was just bouta sayy nvmm you covered it all on the actual review, both great vids tho💯
Lexus all the way for me! Combination of luxury and 5.0 Yamaha and Toyota designed V8 with 472 horsepower 😊
Looking to buy an Integra type s, but dealers want 10k over the sticker price. Was that the same in your case?
I got mines for MSRP
glad we share the same dream on manual swapping an LC500
I love Is500 ,it's have CD,DVD and Blu-ray player.That did for me.perfect daily driving car.
I didn’t realize that was a Blu-ray player as well. Nice
So we got a review of the is500 I take it the M3comp or M340i coming soon right?
That's the one I really want to do. I don't get BMW press fleet cars yet.
@@QueTheChaotic should be able to go to a dealership and talk them into doing a review they get free publicity out of it🤷♂️
I would check the lower Lexus is350 over a Type S or Type R
I trying to talk my wife into getting one so I can drive it too
I'll take the Lexus. The Acura has the Civic motor.
I’ve tried to get that Lexus plate for a long time. Where did you get yours?
That car is owned by Lexus. It's a press car.
@@QueTheChaotic I see, it’s very hard to find that plate frame for some reason. I’ll buy it from anyone who has it lol
First time watching any of your videos. Amazing! Thank you!
IS500 all the way. As a first time Lexus owner, it’s all about the comfort!
Thanks for watching. The comfort of the Lexus is the bright spot.
Lexus Powaaaa! 💪💪💯 Nice review brotha!
Thanks a lot!
I feel like if Lexus would’ve put more technology and a modern interior into the IS, you would see them everywhere on the roads.
It feels modern but more retro I’d say. Certainly better than an Infiniti. Quality is excellent. I thought it felt nicer and better immediately sitting in it compared to my 21 TLX ASpec. That’s a better cabin than the Integra. But, to your point, there is some tech that was better in the Acura. I do miss the ambient lighting too sometimes. All the HVAC also works better in the Lexus. They just don’t make a lot of these. All are made in the Tahara plant in Japan as well so fit ‘n finish and build quality is excellent. Acuras is Ohio. Cheers.
agreed
More tech? Why? If anything, sports cars these days have TOO much tech.
I think this would compare better to the TLX Type S
Agreed, Lexus doesn't really have a direct competitor to the Integra Type S. Maybe the Lexus LBX or UX if they made an F model. Or if there was a Lexus version of the GR Corolla.
Hey Q you should add the type R seats to your Integra 😊👍🏿 love to see you doing an install video
That would make the car so much better
the Lexus rocking from side to side when you REV it is so dope . Acura could never lol
I see no similarity btwn the 2 cars, 4cyl vs 8, front vs rwd etc.
Compact luxury sport sedan. Honda vs Toyota. Their approach to the segment
Love the V8 obviously so I'd pick lexus only because of the V8. Integra Type S win for me in every other category. Looks way better and more aggressive. Better track machine. Very unique. I see is 350s everywhere and is 500 is exactly the same just longer hood to accommodate V8 engine
Untrained eye , yes just a hood bulge . Fenders are longer on is500, rear defuser is different as well. Whenever I see civic type R’s or Integra type S’s. They slow down and ride behind me like I’m law enforcement . I also have a 2jz forged is300 build 6 speed manual swap. I’ll just SKIP the whole 2.0L turbo thing.
You gota hit sport S+ for the is500
I'll do that in the full review. Thanks for pointing that out
I looked into both these cars up here in the northeast, focusing on the integra. But that Lexus though. I ended up securing an allocation for a shelter green ranger raptor. There's so many good cars out here now it's tough to go wrong. Nice car bro
Nice choice!
@QueTheChaotic thanks man. With the roads up here I felt the ranger raptor would be best and smooth things out without worrying about low pro tires and winters etc. I've been through that with audis.....not fun dodging every little pothole and popping two tires on the same side with one spare (that isn't full size) it's gonna be fun up here!
The Lexus is the car I’ve been thinking of getting vs the integra. They are both priced similar but that is a 2022-23 Lexus for 52k
I just saw a IS500 on the road this week. I didn't know what it was until I saw the rear badge. I was going to mention it to you, because I thought it looked like a good competitor for your Type S.
I really like it. It’s got a 5.0 in it too.
Personally I wanted the IS500 so bad, but at 51 I am done with sedan. Kids are driving now and I am back to coupe. Had a 94 SC400 when I was you younger and still miss it. Will pick up a LC500h or a Porsche 992 in a couple of years after I gift my son my ES350 when he is out of college.
Lc500>>>
@@wongchai807 Realistically i don’t really want a V8. I just bought my wife a new NX350h and I am so impressed with the hybrid, our first, my next car will be a hybrid. Unless I can find a really good deal low mileage 3YO CPO Porsche 992.
Didn't they add a V6 to the LC500?
The LC500h has a V6 along with the hybrid system.
@@jml9550 i see nothing wrong with the hybrid but why when you have a legendary v8 in the regular one? The 992 has twin v6? I'm bias but I'm going lc500.
Que coming from a 20si coupe owner thats tuned it’s definitely I know worth the ITS over the 500 the ITS with my same mods nd tune would be screaming and poppin cuz my Sí is very dramatic most ppl always tell me they never knew they could sound this good shit me too . Cant wait to big turbo this and the ITS !
both look majestic
as an owner of an RCF i get why alot of peeps like m4s and such better. the lexus product is sport luxury. i can drive this thing for days and never feel tired or uncomfortable.
There’s a sport + mode! You missed it
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I do it in the solo review.
So if they were both manual which one u choosing
IS500
“The red guts, ew” twice got me 💀💀 good video tho dude!
😆😆😆 thanks 🫡
I have a question. Does it seem like everyone wants to race you in your Integra type S? It happens to me all the time in the GRC
No one wants to race me in the ITS. I even get people wanting to race me in the Miata
Is 500 for the lux and the power. And the fact that is “outdated” is what makes it special. It has a CD player. Being in my 30s I would enjoy the Is more for sure
As a Type R owner idg why people say u cant daily a CTR. Its a Honda Civic. If your not 80 it will be fine. Ive gone from GA and Dallas Texas and back several times to check on my uncle. It was way more comfortable than doing it in my old Ford Ranger. I feel like car reviewers need to toughen up. ❤
You can definitely daily a CTR. It’s over dampened in any other mode that’s not comfort. They’re fine if the roads are good though
I LIKE BOTH! But it's the IS500 for me bro, I'd buy one without thinking at all if that was my budget!
Nice driving video, Que! ITS for me! (ITS owner).
which exhaust is on the type s?
Milltek
Waiting for the refreshed IS500, they stated they'll keep the V8 despite new models moving into electric/hybrid powertrains. Not a fan of paying premium for outdated technology. The only thing holding this engine up is the transmission.
I would be surprised if it refreshes with V8 but you never know. There is nothing really missing from the tech in the 500. Maybe a HUD. Wireless android is a mehhhh, $50 box add, if you need it.
What outdated tech?
I got a IS500 about a month ago. My favorite car I’ve owned so far and I had a Trackhawk haha
6MT all day! Great video! Always entertaining
Looks like the Lexus has more body roll. Definitely a lot more outdated interior. I’ve never really been lexus fan myself. But v8 is a nice touch both cars look great.
I thought I was the only one who is a fan of the IS500 and the ITS and is having trouble deciding between the two for completely different reasons. The IS500 is in another league when it comes to fit and finish and quality. The panel fit is superior to the ITS. The major draw of the ITS is the 6-speed manual and the roomy interior, but I was somewhat disappointed by the panel fit. The ITS is also in its first year so hopefully some of its quirks will be ironed out in the next couple of model years. The IS500 on the other hand is proven and the last of a long line of Lexus V8s. Having now driven both, I think the ITS wins for me because of the 6MT but I can’t help but thinking about the IS500…
It’s a very tough choice. If I were open to automatics, I would choose the IS500
@@QueTheChaoticconversely, if the IS500 came with a MT option, it would be the winner for sure
Can you review the new Audi RS3 against the ITS?
I don't have access to Audi's fleet yet. That would be a great video
Great review!
Love my 23 IS500 Molten Pearl!🧡🧡🧡
That color is fire!
I have a type s integra and don't see anything in the Lexus for me but it's a nice car
I saw this video and my jaw dropped. This is the exact comparison I was looking for. Currently have a type s and just feel for the price I wish it was better. But I drove a 500 and realized the engine is the reason you’d buy it. Doesn’t drive better.
If you owned one for 10 years which would you pick?
@@Supabash Well I have an IS 500 and I just might end up keeping it for 10 years lol. It's my daily - I know there are better-handling cars out there, but I can still enjoy driving it on the mountain roads from time to time and yet still have a very comfy daily.
@@ARentz07 yea that is what I’m thinking as well. I’m 30 and realizing more and more that I want a daily with a dose of fun rather than a racer with a dose of comfort. Lexus interior also destroys integra. And you’d be like yeah of course it should it cost so much more…..except it doesn’t. type s is expensive
With my current fiasco with Acura, I would choose the Lexus to own for 10 years. While I love sporty cars, I enjoy reliability and lot more. The type S is a terrible value for what it offers. I still enjoy driving it a lot but I couldn’t myself keeping it for 10 years.
@@QueTheChaotic yeah I saw that. Jalopnik even wrote an article about it. I agree, the Lexus far better long term buy. Even if the transmission sucks. lol
I looooooove both of them. It's hard to choose one of them.
Literally the 2 cars I heavily considered
93 mazda rx-7 fbo. was getting 13 to 15 mpg. was fun af
Lexus IS500 all day every day! I have an IS350 and I absolutely love it!
Does anyone who has the is500 know what the average monthly insurance is? Assuming you have a clean record
Isn’t the type #s a turbo v6?
The TLX is. Not the Integra
Hate the long gears on the IS500... there's a pleasure to them, as it lets you sit with the screaming V8 for a longer time... but i wished you could play around with snappy short gears a bit more... the top of 3rd gear is almost 100mph... that's ridiculous.
I feel the exact same way
The fair comparison should have been ITS vs IS350FSport
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