I’ve thought the same thing, and IMO it will be because the ITS is a very special car at a price point that many aren’t willing to spend for what it offers. I’m so happy that I have mine, and I will hold on to it for many, many years ahead.
Great review, informative and conveys how much fun the ITS really is. Responding to the question on winter driving, my Civic Si has the LSD and that makes all the difference in the world. That little car will pull and pull through the snow. The ITS also has the limited slip, so I would expect with somewhat narrower winter tires it would do just fine in the snow. Have to laugh at the hater comments below, LOL if you want a drag car forget hot hatches and get an American V8. All I can say is the acceleration of the ITS is thrilling. The ITS is most certainly not a rebadge: the suspension tuning is different, the engine tuning is different with more HP, the car is all-new and specific to the ITS from the A-pillar forward, the interior is more luxurious and refined and overall styling is absolutely killer, I can't tell you how many people have come up to me blown away by the looks of the ITS. Regarding engines and durability, well, we don't see Subaru, VW, or Toyota in F-1 or IndyCar, do we? Honda knows how to make reliable high-performance engines and cars and Honda's/Acura's hold their value like few other brands.
Toyota is in rally, NASCAR, and endurance. VW is in rally and as a group, they are in endurance and Formula 1. This means nothing though, since the race engines and the street engines are just not the same. Not saying they are better or worse than Honda, just questioning the logic of your last sentence. My guess is that the nearest sibling engine between a race car and a street car is the 3 cylinder in the GR Yaris and the GR rally car, but still a race prep engine is going to be different to the street version. Go take a look at used Acura Type S, a serious bargain in good way for a petrolhead, a very underrated and undervalued sedan IMHO.
@@93455Driver yea, I was responding to the hater comment below. Bottom line, Honda knows how to make reliable high-performance [street] engines, that is my point.
@@uwhanna Ah, I see. Not heard of any engine issues with Honda's 2l turbo. Savage Geese mentioned past issues with 2nd gear, but that was ages ago, past Type R Gen.
I wanted a Civic Type-R for a while, but was turned off by the bright red interior and bucket seats in my daily driver. The wing also looks a bit out of place in my professional office parking lot, which is filled with BMWs and Audis. The Type S solves the problem perfectly by being a nearly identical driving experience to the Type-R paired with the refinement of an Acura.
@@BrianMakse Very odd. I submitted an inquiry to Acura on this matter and await their reply. I've seen both the color screen and the black-and-white screen with other car reviewers, and cannot figure out the contradiction. The manual is no help. You did a good job reviewing this car.
Traded in my FL5 for the ITS, and love how much better it is as a street car / daily driver. I must admit the Marysville Ohio plant build-quality is woefully disappointing and "heads should roll" for the lack of quality control - Some (many) people there need to be held accountable, because Acura has no business calling themselves even a pseudo-luxury brand in its current state.
The build quality on my 2021 Acura RDX,which is made in Ohio as well, is terrible. Panel gaps, rear hatch misalignment and creaking/cracking sound from the sunroof. I should have inspected the car more closely before purchasing.
I also traded the FL5 for the Integra Type S and I'm very happy with the vehicle/choice. I do agree it's a bit overpriced but this is common amongst many car brands... it's a shame they took away the optional sun roof available on the base Integra. Overall- I'm glad the type S exists. Softer daily driver Type R fun reliable manual practical that kinda is in a league of it's own. The FL5 vs DE5 the honda is the better value at sticker- good luck getting that but if your paying 5k+ over sticker you may as well pick up at Integra Type s which now is super easy to find a Sticker...
@@chuckcribbs3398 Door gasket is misaligned and loose, rear hatch hinge sealant left a gap and overrun from the factory, various paint defects caused by application or the shell itself, panel gaps, and intermittent rattles in the cabin.
How would the backseat leg room be for a child's car seat or booster seat? The body lines are beautiful compared to the Type R and the Corolla GR and the Hyundai N
I need a car that copes well with New England winter. I wonder how well the Type S does with winter wheels and tires. Otherwise I’m looking at the Golf R, Audi S3, or an RS3 in the unlikely event that I can get one at MSRP.
@@BrianMakse wow that says a lot about this FWD car! I guess with the money you save, you could buy a Miata or some cheap fun sports car to go with it.
Fwd/rwd/awd I've had them all and no debate on rwd vs fwd in a sports car. However with the reliability/safety/engagement/resale value/built quality were all factors I had in considerations. I have not driven this car in snow and tbh for snow I would go awd (I've lived in Pittsburgh)
I’m waiting on the next iteration, hopefully 🤞🏿 more power or SH-AWD plus more power (the perfect balance would be 390hp, 400ft tq ) 😅 Oh @honda @acura plzzzzz 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Memory seats and a sunroof are big misses for me. I still got one, but I will trade it in immediately if those options get added. The seats could use a little more bolstering as well
Plenty of boring, behind the scenes reasons, one of which I referenced in this episode, but all things considered it was a great excuse to revisit a delightful car.
@@BrianMakse Well I deeply enjoyed both of your reviews of this car and pretty much all your takes I agree with here. So thanks for taking the time to go over it again! I can't wait to try one for myself soon. It may be be my next car. Thanks again.
$59k for this Acura in Canada, albeit being pretty nice, is way too much. It needs to have AWD for sure. Surround view, memory driver seat, real leather are also missing for this price point. It is $10k overpriced. But the whole Integra line is overpriced; sadly Honda/Acura pricing model seems to be like the Jeep/Stellantis one here.
Great review 👍🙏 This car is not impressive at all for the price point. This market segment are sold in very small numbers and predominantly to buyers that bought the real Integras from the 80s and 90s. Secondly, the 0-60 is not groundbreaking for the price point because a Lexus IS350 from 2006 can achieve this. I don’t understand why Honda was so poor at marketing the old RSX as a different nameplate and this NEW Integra is called an Integra but is a straight rebadged Civic. The Integra of 80s and 90s and RSX were not rebadged Civic. The biggest elephant in the room are those Hondas Turbo engines, consider to rebuild them as soon as warranty is out. No all wheel drive either, Subaru WRX, VW Golf R and Toyota GR Corolla better buy and definitely will be more solidly built. This New Integra revving at 6500 RPM to get your 300+ hp, it will wear out the engine fast. These Honda Turbo engines are not solidly built like those free revving 80s, 90s or even the RSX Acuras.
The level of disinformation in this comment is incredible 🤯😳 You are the typical blind troll that measure performance in terms of 0-60 times. Even the IS500 FSport can post better lap times in a track with turns. That is where the money is in the handling and level of engagement. Historically the civic and the integra had been more similar than different. This is the best FWD platform ever done by Honda. Faster than any other released by them.
@@Marbind😂 your comment is not truthful, Civic and Integra are not similar…never have been. Integra were always DOHC and the same time Civics were SOHC. Even their displacements are different sizes. I have owned Acuras and Hondas since 80s and have stopped owning them 2010s. Nowadays, our shop see countless engine rebuilds of Honda Turbo engines. Oil dilution issues are common. Honda needs to get simple and reliable with their offerings. For example, Mazda MX-5 is truly a gem and deep history of being consistent. This NEW Integra is very much different than the 1st, 2nd, 3rd generation and RSXs. While WRX, GR Corolla and VW Gold R have all gone all wheel drive, Honda still stuck on front wheel drive 😂…instead they are using gimmick to avoid torque steer….
@@Thankyou_3 Incorrect. Oil dilution was a problem with the 1.5T (worse engine that Honda put on a performance oriented civic) Never was an issue with the k20c1. Plenty of owners are over 100k miles without issues in this latest iteration of K series. 6th gen civic si and integra gsr were very similar. Many aftermarket parts and OEM were interchangeable. Same with the 7th and so on The FL5 and DE5 had been praised everywhere for being agile despite being a FWD. makes circles around any Miata mass produced. 😂 Find better facts my friend.
@@Marbind 🤦🏻♂️ you can’t even get your engines correct…6th generation Civic SIR had 1.6 litre and same year Integra GSR had 1.8 litre…everything you had mentioned is fake news just like mainstream media. Go go drive Integra Turbo engine maybe we will see you in our shop soon to fix the oil dilution issue 😂
@@Marbind I agree. If the 1.5T were a better engine I may have chosen a new Si or even an Integra A Spec with manual gearbox over my 2024 ITS, but only because I always try to value engineer the most car for my money. With that said and when shopping for a new fun to drive daily at the end of this most recent May, the ITS checked every item on my wish list. I would have had to of spend a few thousand in the aftermarket to get the wheels, exhaust, tuning, stereo, and suspension that the ITS offers as STOCK. It’s perfect IMO as is minus some annoying rev hang that I can live with. The one thing I won’t live with is the factory oil change interval that says the car can go “for long distances” between oil changes on 0w-20. I haven’t tested this by having samples independently tested and won’t on my ITS, but I will change the oil and filter every 3.5k miles because it’s cheap insurance for the motor. Maintenance > Repair. I hope to still be driving my bone stock 24’ ITS 300k miles from now.
Not a fan of FWD, but this caught my attention and absolutely loved it on the first drive experience. 😊
It’s a brilliant thing!
Awesome review Brian!😊
I love my Type-S.
Thanks! Enjoy!
This car is on my radar. Great review!
Glad you liked it!
I just bought it and love it
Great review!
Why does it feel like we will lose this model once this gen's time is up?
I’ve thought the same thing, and IMO it will be because the ITS is a very special car at a price point that many aren’t willing to spend for what it offers. I’m so happy that I have mine, and I will hold on to it for many, many years ahead.
@@ChrisIam-007 So happy i have a deposit on one. I feel the same way. This is probably our last chance to have a package like this in a new car.
Great review, informative and conveys how much fun the ITS really is. Responding to the question on winter driving, my Civic Si has the LSD and that makes all the difference in the world. That little car will pull and pull through the snow. The ITS also has the limited slip, so I would expect with somewhat narrower winter tires it would do just fine in the snow. Have to laugh at the hater comments below, LOL if you want a drag car forget hot hatches and get an American V8. All I can say is the acceleration of the ITS is thrilling. The ITS is most certainly not a rebadge: the suspension tuning is different, the engine tuning is different with more HP, the car is all-new and specific to the ITS from the A-pillar forward, the interior is more luxurious and refined and overall styling is absolutely killer, I can't tell you how many people have come up to me blown away by the looks of the ITS. Regarding engines and durability, well, we don't see Subaru, VW, or Toyota in F-1 or IndyCar, do we? Honda knows how to make reliable high-performance engines and cars and Honda's/Acura's hold their value like few other brands.
Toyota is in rally, NASCAR, and endurance. VW is in rally and as a group, they are in endurance and Formula 1. This means nothing though, since the race engines and the street engines are just not the same. Not saying they are better or worse than Honda, just questioning the logic of your last sentence. My guess is that the nearest sibling engine between a race car and a street car is the 3 cylinder in the GR Yaris and the GR rally car, but still a race prep engine is going to be different to the street version. Go take a look at used Acura Type S, a serious bargain in good way for a petrolhead, a very underrated and undervalued sedan IMHO.
@@93455Driver yea, I was responding to the hater comment below. Bottom line, Honda knows how to make reliable high-performance [street] engines, that is my point.
@@uwhanna Ah, I see. Not heard of any engine issues with Honda's 2l turbo. Savage Geese mentioned past issues with 2nd gear, but that was ages ago, past Type R Gen.
Very nice car! Kudos for Acura for making a practical sport hatch. I bought the GRC cause I needed something smaller. Parking space is limited
Brian great review.
Do you mind me asking what twisty road you're driving on?
I have a 2019 ND2 RF Miata and I'm looking for some twisty roads.
I wanted a Civic Type-R for a while, but was turned off by the bright red interior and bucket seats in my daily driver. The wing also looks a bit out of place in my professional office parking lot, which is filled with BMWs and Audis. The Type S solves the problem perfectly by being a nearly identical driving experience to the Type-R paired with the refinement of an Acura.
My 2025 ITS has a black-and-white infotainment screen. At 6:48, how did you get a full color screen?
How do you not have colour?
@@BrianMakse Very odd. I submitted an inquiry to Acura on this matter and await their reply. I've seen both the color screen and the black-and-white screen with other car reviewers, and cannot figure out the contradiction. The manual is no help. You did a good job reviewing this car.
Hey Brian I might have missed it but I think you left off how great the manual transmission is and the upgraded stereo.
Quite possibly, but the gearbox is excellent, as you know. Love this car.
I was driving behind you just passing the zoo. I did not notice that's how the type-S sounds on the gear changes.
Ha ha! I was driving super chill, too!
Nice review.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Traded in my FL5 for the ITS, and love how much better it is as a street car / daily driver. I must admit the Marysville Ohio plant build-quality is woefully disappointing and "heads should roll" for the lack of quality control - Some (many) people there need to be held accountable, because Acura has no business calling themselves even a pseudo-luxury brand in its current state.
Examples???
The build quality on my 2021 Acura RDX,which is made in Ohio as well, is terrible. Panel gaps, rear hatch misalignment and creaking/cracking sound from the sunroof. I should have inspected the car more closely before purchasing.
I also traded the FL5 for the Integra Type S and I'm very happy with the vehicle/choice. I do agree it's a bit overpriced but this is common amongst many car brands... it's a shame they took away the optional sun roof available on the base Integra. Overall- I'm glad the type S exists. Softer daily driver Type R fun reliable manual practical that kinda is in a league of it's own. The FL5 vs DE5 the honda is the better value at sticker- good luck getting that but if your paying 5k+ over sticker you may as well pick up at Integra Type s which now is super easy to find a Sticker...
@@chuckcribbs3398 Door gasket is misaligned and loose, rear hatch hinge sealant left a gap and overrun from the factory, various paint defects caused by application or the shell itself, panel gaps, and intermittent rattles in the cabin.
FL5 has plenty of issues too. Just look at th Issues section of civicxi forum.
How would the backseat leg room be for a child's car seat or booster seat? The body lines are beautiful compared to the Type R and the Corolla GR and the Hyundai N
I would consider blurring out your speedometer and saying you did all of your testing in "mexico" lol other than that great review!
Glad you enjoyed. Closed road. Professional driver.
Canada--presumably kph not mph
I need a car that copes well with New England winter. I wonder how well the Type S does with winter wheels and tires. Otherwise I’m looking at the Golf R, Audi S3, or an RS3 in the unlikely event that I can get one at MSRP.
Totally doable with a good tire. No worries.
Would you ever consider this over a manual CT4vBW or the auto only IS500?
That would be a tough decision. The Cadillac’s dynamics are superb.
@@BrianMakse wow that says a lot about this FWD car! I guess with the money you save, you could buy a Miata or some cheap fun sports car to go with it.
The answer is yes. I was cross shopping with all 4 door sports cars (including the ct5bw) and end up with the ITS. Cannot be happier
@@pedrot1152 Did you come from Fwd cars? Any snow driving ? Thanks!
Fwd/rwd/awd I've had them all and no debate on rwd vs fwd in a sports car. However with the reliability/safety/engagement/resale value/built quality were all factors I had in considerations. I have not driven this car in snow and tbh for snow I would go awd (I've lived in Pittsburgh)
I'm getting 15.7 MPG on mine. 🤯 Only 350 miles.
I’m waiting on the next iteration, hopefully 🤞🏿 more power or SH-AWD plus more power (the perfect balance would be 390hp, 400ft tq ) 😅 Oh @honda @acura plzzzzz 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
That’d be an 80k proposition.
Please add the upgrades included with the type A (memory seats, etc) & I’ll PAY for them !
Memory seats and a sunroof are big misses for me. I still got one, but I will trade it in immediately if those options get added. The seats could use a little more bolstering as well
Not that im complaining but why was this car reviewed twice?
Plenty of boring, behind the scenes reasons, one of which I referenced in this episode, but all things considered it was a great excuse to revisit a delightful car.
@@BrianMakse Well I deeply enjoyed both of your reviews of this car and pretty much all your takes I agree with here. So thanks for taking the time to go over it again! I can't wait to try one for myself soon. It may be be my next car. Thanks again.
At 6:48, how did you get a full color infotainment screen? My 2025 ITS has a black-and-white screen.
I get 9.3L/100km after break in
Thanks for sharing! Better than I can do!
$59k for this Acura in Canada, albeit being pretty nice, is way too much. It needs to have AWD for sure. Surround view, memory driver seat, real leather are also missing for this price point. It is $10k overpriced. But the whole Integra line is overpriced; sadly Honda/Acura pricing model seems to be like the Jeep/Stellantis one here.
Name something that isn’t overpriced.
Why can’t GM make something like this?
The Cobalt SS Turbo back in the day was a beast.
Exactly. They did. It was pretty darned good.
They don't want to. had the Buick Regal GS Hatch and they killed it after Opel was sold off.
Hopefully, Honda will bring out an automatic like Toyota did with the GR Corolla.
Integra Type S review for the 2nd time.WTF.
I could do one a week!
Acura is premium not luxury and that’s a kids car. RWD is for adults
No kids can afford this car and the handling of this car makes it more fun to drive than most RWD cars.
@ are you 12?
@@nissanhonda25 Are you a old whale?
@ i’m not a 8 year old posting from grandmas apt talking about how a civic is so good
@@nissanhonda25 OK gramps
車の動画チャンネルで？
「車」より「おっさん」が先に写し出されると？
殺意わく。
Please exit through the gift shop.
It’s a fastback. Not a hatch. I’m not sure why Honda needed to redefine what a hatch is.
Hatch.
He has a point given there is no rear wiper blade.@@BrianMakse
I’m out. Way too pedantic for me.
Ford calls the Mustang a faskback but it’s just a trunk.
Because Honda is gay, that’s why.
Acura is not a luxury brand.
Great review 👍🙏
This car is not impressive at all for the price point. This market segment are sold in very small numbers and predominantly to buyers that bought the real Integras from the 80s and 90s.
Secondly, the 0-60 is not groundbreaking for the price point because a Lexus IS350 from 2006 can achieve this. I don’t understand why Honda was so poor at marketing the old RSX as a different nameplate and this NEW Integra is called an Integra but is a straight rebadged Civic. The Integra of 80s and 90s and RSX were not rebadged Civic. The biggest elephant in the room are those Hondas Turbo engines, consider to rebuild them as soon as warranty is out. No all wheel drive either, Subaru WRX, VW Golf R and Toyota GR Corolla better buy and definitely will be more solidly built. This New Integra revving at 6500 RPM to get your 300+ hp, it will wear out the engine fast. These Honda Turbo engines are not solidly built like those free revving 80s, 90s or even the RSX Acuras.
The level of disinformation in this comment is incredible 🤯😳
You are the typical blind troll that measure performance in terms of 0-60 times.
Even the IS500 FSport can post better lap times in a track with turns.
That is where the money is in the handling and level of engagement.
Historically the civic and the integra had been more similar than different.
This is the best FWD platform ever done by Honda. Faster than any other released by them.
@@Marbind😂 your comment is not truthful, Civic and Integra are not similar…never have been. Integra were always DOHC and the same time Civics were SOHC. Even their displacements are different sizes. I have owned Acuras and Hondas since 80s and have stopped owning them 2010s. Nowadays, our shop see countless engine rebuilds of Honda Turbo engines. Oil dilution issues are common.
Honda needs to get simple and reliable with their offerings. For example, Mazda MX-5 is truly a gem and deep history of being consistent. This NEW Integra is very much different than the 1st, 2nd, 3rd generation and RSXs. While WRX, GR Corolla and VW Gold R have all gone all wheel drive, Honda still stuck on front wheel drive 😂…instead they are using gimmick to avoid torque steer….
@@Thankyou_3
Incorrect.
Oil dilution was a problem with the 1.5T (worse engine that Honda put on a performance oriented civic)
Never was an issue with the k20c1. Plenty of owners are over 100k miles without issues in this latest iteration of K series.
6th gen civic si and integra gsr were very similar. Many aftermarket parts and OEM were interchangeable.
Same with the 7th and so on
The FL5 and DE5 had been praised everywhere for being agile despite being a FWD. makes circles around any Miata mass produced. 😂
Find better facts my friend.
@@Marbind 🤦🏻♂️ you can’t even get your engines correct…6th generation Civic SIR had 1.6 litre and same year Integra GSR had 1.8 litre…everything you had mentioned is fake news just like mainstream media. Go go drive Integra Turbo engine maybe we will see you in our shop soon to fix the oil dilution issue 😂
@@Marbind I agree. If the 1.5T were a better engine I may have chosen a new Si or even an Integra A Spec with manual gearbox over my 2024 ITS, but only because I always try to value engineer the most car for my money. With that said and when shopping for a new fun to drive daily at the end of this most recent May, the ITS checked every item on my wish list. I would have had to of spend a few thousand in the aftermarket to get the wheels, exhaust, tuning, stereo, and suspension that the ITS offers as STOCK. It’s perfect IMO as is minus some annoying rev hang that I can live with. The one thing I won’t live with is the factory oil change interval that says the car can go “for long distances” between oil changes on 0w-20. I haven’t tested this by having samples independently tested and won’t on my ITS, but I will change the oil and filter every 3.5k miles because it’s cheap insurance for the motor. Maintenance > Repair. I hope to still be driving my bone stock 24’ ITS 300k miles from now.