What's the Difference?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ธ.ค. 2022
- I got some feedback from my PINJACK review. This video is for the doubters and/or liars in the hobby.
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Hello all. We are humbled by the amount of orders we received in the last few days after the first video posted. We just finished our first batch of the product last friday and shipped to the tradeshow folks who pre-ordered and are working today and tomorrow on the second batch of 200 pinjacks. All the orders we received online over the weekend and prior are shipping today as we TEST each PinJack before shipping it. We want to get it right the first time, and we are proud to offer a 30 day money back guarantee if you aren't satisfied for any reason. If it breaks, we want to hear about it and send you a new one, that is the thing it should not be able to do because we are testing them before shipping them out🙂
Never used one. People don't realize how heavy a pin is. I know my knees would definitely buy me one if they could.
Didn’t change my mind - if you’re handy at all you can cut mild steel and tap new holes just like they did
I don't care about no dang pin leg lifters; all I care is about that beautiful background you have in your vids lol thank you for sharing. I have 5 pins and you are pushing me to get 2 more game to have a display similar to yours lol. You killing me softly Cary lol.
I hadn't seen this product before, looks great - gonna get one now - thanks for the video
I like it, is it pricy, Yes. But most specialty tools are expensive. Rolling a table lift around the arcade sucks, I would buy one to save time. Thanks Cary.
Thanks for the comparison video. You have really showed how much better the pinjack is. However I still think the pinjack is too expensive for what it is. That's all
Not a problem we respect that. I’m just glad Cary made a video explaining our product. Can’t ask for more. Warmly, kylae
Cost doesn’t matter if they are out of stock :P
@@neekzz we are humbled by the amount of orders we received after the video and are currently assembling the second batch of 200 today and tomorrow. You guys jumped on the product and we just finished the final version last week! I love you guys for checking it out. We hand assemble all of em and test each one before shipping, “no cheeping out” going on here:-) working as fast as we can!
They took an existing product and added a new foot for pinball looks legit. Seems a bit salty in price but totally agree it’s not sticker swapping.
Thanks, we took a nexisting caullking gun and then redesigned it and trademarked and patented the design. But metal is stupidly expensive, we hope to get the costs down next year with a 2.0 version for the homeowner who loves pinball.
Good on you to take the time to push back and expose the facts. FACTS MATTER. And if people try to call you out as anything less than open and honest, clearly they have not been following you for very long. Bravo.
I don't have a Harbor Freight lift, so I need to buy one of those first. Pinjack after that.
Hosting events, I’m constantly setting up and moving games. I use the HF lift cart for everything, transportation, lifting games high for maintenance, and leveling. But it is a pain to move the table lift from game to game when leveling games after event setup. For shortcut I do the turtle back method, praying that I survive every lift lol. Price is high, but if it saves time and back strain, it’s worth $$ to ME for MY scenario.
If you are setting up a lot of games periodically or more often than not - it will be worth it. It's cheaper than back surgery.
I'll wait for version 2.0, the PinJack&CarryUpstairs
Sometimes. Just sometimes, the right tool gets the right results.
Still bought the $10 dollar one. 30 minutes in the shop with the plasma cutter and welder, better than the Pinjack. Granted not everyone has a machine shop in they're backyard but what can I say. Life is good.
HOW DARE YOU CARY, to sell out! Just kidding! And FINALLY, you play MORE of your theme music at the end!!!!!
It looks like a awesome specialty tool don't see what the big deal is.
This product looks way heavy duty compared to any other. Great design. If we would have had something like that in my oilfield days, it would be 4x the amount.
Can’t wait to get mine.
Wonder if this will fit under my arcades. Sure its a bit pricey, but it might save me from back surgery when trying to push a machine up and spin a leg leveler. Great stuff Cary
I’d like to reply but my biz partner won’t let me say anything as we are certain people will find alternative and useful ways to use our product. However I am not allowed to spill the beans, or recommend inventiveness in use…. You guys are smart, I’m certain you’ll find creative uses for it we cannot endorse:-)
I just ordered two. Thanks for the direct link.
Guitar community is bad for that stuff too. Selling basic tools at stupid prices and making it sound like it's something special they can't get anywhere else.
Like 1 inch wood screws (for specific guitar bridge use) costing 5 buks or more for just 6 screws. You can walk into a Walmart and get a 300+ count box of the same screws for 4.50 lol
Now think the $10 one does not work but if you have a laser cutter you could make it work but if not you missed the whole point of the video it does not work until it is modified like the pinJack and laser cuttering new metal parts and a hand assembly make tools pricey. I think it is a good product and reasonable price
@@parkerslusky9562 I was referring to stuff like this that happens in the guitar community and said nothing of the product that he was talking about. I did in fact get the point and didn't miss a thing so please don't try to twist my comment into something it wasn't. I don't care at all about your thoughts on the product and it's price, but good for you for liking it. I don't and don.t care that you do.
Supply and demand. The same reason why pinball machines now are thousands more than they were a few years ago.
The way I see it is if you can build a better one and sell it for less, go for it.
We trademarked the name and patented the design work. We are working on another cool product currently. But hope to get the price down in a 2.0 version next year. Metal is stupidly expensive.
@@KylaeJordan oh im sure you did and I'm not necessarily sure someone could actually build something for less. My comment was more just a general comment. I like the idea and look forward to other things you come up with
@@paulharder407 thanks for the encouragement, we appreciate it and endeavor to make cool stuff that solves problems and makes sense to people.
I've always just used a wrench to turn the nut on the leveler. Couple turns and then check the level. If you lift the game then you have to set it back down to check if it's level. Can someone please explain to me the need to lift the game in order to turn the levelers?
@CaryHardy I'm sure he can explain the precise reason, but the best setup for playability is the issue at hand. All floors are uneven, thus anytime you move a game you need to reset to a 6 or 6.5 degree pitch for the speed of the ball and level out 4 legs to match the un-evenness of the floor or carpet to get the ball to move down the center of the game board. This device is designed for people that move games more than 2 times a year. The physical weight of a lot of pinball games is 300+ pounds, and even cantilever weight meaning lifting only one leg of the pinball game essentially with your knee is 120 to 150 pounds. NOT FUN!
Great video.
I said it on FB as well
Yet people pay 2k plus for toppers and 50 to 100 bucks for little figure mods for their game that somebody adds a LED light onto. And the figure was already made by a company. Hey man to each their own here lot of people crying over a good MOD that's what it is really. Get it great don't get it move on really. My 2cents.
Amen
This video should not exist, cheap poor people trolling should just be ignored.
Love you bro, thank you for showing this very cheap but very cool product that preserves my back.
Keep up the good work.
Are you getting a Scooby-Doo?
Nope! I don't buy before I play. Especially if the code is still "in the making". If I spend that kind of money it better be DONE.
Keep up the great work! Your first vid about the Pinjack was great as well.
As a physiotherapist i have to say you will safe many people from getting lower back pain or even worse. Shame on you, i could be a millionaire without videos like that.
I love this Corey guy! 😊
Keyboard commando here, mate I was a bit miffed at the price of the product, be nice if it was a bit better, in Australia with exchange rates / postage it seems too much for just a couple of machines that I own. And I have a back injury and like the idea of the product, but it’s still a no. I might have to mod the cheapie and that’s ok too.
What I do appreciate is you candid natured shows, I always enjoy your content and like how you cover off both sides here.
The haters and warriors will always be there, so I’ll just say this. Keep it coming Bro, you are awesome, you got this! :)
If you come to the states or contact me directly I’ll make it free shipping and no tax. I have some friends who go to Australia regularly. And I have extended family there. Back pain is awful. So anything we can do to get you the product we will do, it just might be in someone’s luggage first:) warmly, kylae
Great infomercial I mean video. Just kidding but it’s definitely a great comparison and endorsement.
Have u reviewed the pinball skates yet? I heard they are a game changer!
That settles that... lol
Huh, wish I knew about this before I fucked my shoulder up a bit awkwardly lifting the legs of the machine with a box trolley while tryin to turn the feet at the same time. Knew it was a shit idea and way of doin it but mighta worked alright if I'd waited and got someone to help me, but I had to go and be an impatient moron and try and do it by myself. Or waited until I could borrow/ buy a pinball dolly. Ended up having another go at doin it the other day without lift the machine at all and just adjusting the feet. Seemed to work alright.
Welp, we just made the final version and got em done last week, so in the future we can save your back and body the unneccessary pain. Sorry about your shoulder that's awful:(
@@KylaeJordan Thanks mate. It was my own stupid fault for being a bloody moron lol. And I'm still a noob at these things. I did wonder if a car jack or something would work but these are a much better idea. I'm down under so would cost a bit to get em shipped and see you've offered another aussie in the comments to put em in a friends luggage lol Plannin to buy a couple more machines so I might have to hit ya up on that too. Or ya should tryin get an aussie distributor for em. I can give ya some names and links to aussie spare parts places if you'd like?
Ok it looks by your video they took it apart added the double break and beefier forks, am I wrong or am I missing something?
Re-engineered it to a beefier version I should say.
@@snextime I would agree. They improved it for Pinball use.
We custom made the footplates, forks, washer, and added the extra break on the top. WE also hand assembled it and added Loctite for you:) We used different metal, different thickness and a little secret sauce that allows it to be used over 500 times without needing extra lube or any service. You're welcome!
@@steen5599 not I rip-off they hand built it and customized parts to get it to work and pinball parts are pricey. I think a 100 cheap useless toy mod is worthless this is great the only way it would be a ripoff if you have access to a lasercuter to make your own from the 10 one but even then you might spend hours getting it to work
@@KylaeJordan So, it's a modified version and you think it justifies a $100+ increase ?!?
Keyboard commandos to the rescue... Attack lmbo
Nice video!! 💪
Shame on you Cary... how dare you try to inform the Pin Community about a new product that might help out...
Uhhg.... don't pay attention to these know it all's, that are probably just jealous of your show.
Cheers.
I'm sure we will get plenty that will dig their heels in and double down!
Love your content
Would rather see someone invent a pinball polishing machine, kinda like at the golf llcourse, drop ball in, t urn the handle. Polishing balls is the worst, but it has the greatest impact when performed
Not the same but looks like they took the Amazon product and modded it
Makes sense to try and do it yourself
I like your vids but, I am sorry, that is the same damn frame casting. So they had a new foot lasercut, that isn't 100 bucks worth. Just too much gouging for what could have been a $50 product and, if they are against a wall (like yours) you'd still need to climb underneath to level it!
Yup, still climb underneath, but you wouldn't have to use your body to lift it. :)
you can use the pinjack at ANY ANGLE so it works in tight spaces and two of em can be used to do pitch and level at the same time. But metal is stupidly exspensive, next year we are going to try and make a 2.0 version and get the costs down, but again, metal is an internationally sold commodity and thus killing our price point.
Applause 👏
That said, would I buy this? No way, not at that price. But I get it. It's a niche product that won't enjoy mass sales so the price is higher. It's economics. Still, for me, I have to find more cost effective solutions. That's what I'd like to focus on. 🤔 Should Willie make vids? Let me know in the comments.
How did they ever manage without this for the last 80 years, lol?
The same way cruise control on cars manages. Didn't have it for years. A lot of people don't need or use it, but it's there as an option non the less.
@@CaryHardy Bad analogy, cruise is something you use daily, possibly hours at a time.
@@builtfordtough4499 not really. It's something not everyone uses,needs or even has. I have it. Rarely use it - if ever. I could come up with all kinds of comparisons, but in the end...this tool is an option. It's not for everyone, but those with bad backs or knees are surely looking at this as a value.
@@CaryHardy I am sure there is plenty of folks that could use it but the price does not reflect a sympathy for their condition. The lengths you are going to promoting/defending it makes me think you has skin in the game...
@@builtfordtough4499 no skin in the mix. Different strokes for different folks. Specialty tool for a hobby of folks that spend way more on things that are aesthetics only. Just boggles my mind is all. I have already stated the price is high. I even told the makers that I don't agree with the price. But there are plenty of people that DO need this tool and are more than willing to spend the money.
I think the market will decide, and if it's overpriced I suspect an overseas retailer to make a similar duplicate and offer it for a more realistic price point. After all if it's a matter of re-engineering and they don't have a patent on it, I won't survive the year. So I think for the You-Tuber, where I go to for critical analysis of "Hyped" pinball machines and toppers, to promote these things, even with the caveats of it's overpriced makes me feel conflicted about why I tune to this channel.
Good thing we hired a lawfirm to trademark the name and patent the design. PINJACKS are shipped and another cool product is on deck after we carefully patent it too!
@@KylaeJordan good call to get the patents before selling a single product. I know that's been a concern for other products.
Should of just had people buy it not work then they would see.thanks for showing people the truth!
While the drywall version does not work for lifting a pin, the design and cost of materials for both is so close that at least we know how much pinball tax is being added on the sale price. If it was for lifting literally anything else in this world, that price would never work. This is pinball though. Only in this bubble can a $10 modified drywall jack sell for $130.
Guess we should send you one of ours to compare in the flesh to the amazon one. We will be at the Texaspinball tradeshow and AMOA show, come by our booth? You gave me a great idea… I’ll buy the crappy versions online and have them there for people to see for themselves since the metal we bought and cut cost more than 50.00 each. Metal is an international commodity and we build a machine tool to make this product. But our 2.0 version we hope to have later next year should be cheaper. Excellent tip though!
@@KylaeJordan Milk it while you can guys. The first guy to sell a $2 strand of LED’s for $100 was in the pinball community. You came to the right place.
@@pipes3 ouch:( damn our first total non-believer. Well, all I can say is please give us the opportunity to prove it in person. Working very hard to give people a quality product for a reasonable price. Hope you’ll at least give it a look at a tradeshow. Warmly, kylae
it's the pinpod all over again
I would argue that the PinPod wouldn't make setting up your game easier.
This video did not changed my mind. I thought it was a great product from the beginning 😄
@@CaryHardy I meant that it was a repackaged product. While it is "different", it's the same design
It's improved for the primary use of pinball. These changes aren't easily done by a laymen either.
Yes it is basically a caulking gun, we didn't invent the caulking gun. We just made all of the modifications and engineering adjustments to make it work for a pinball game more than 500 times without fail. We also did a crap load of prototypes to make the hand levers not feel like it was going to break your hand every time you squeezed it. Finally, we tested the load bearing weight for months till we got it to a reliable lift weight that didn't make the price sky high. We hope people will appreciate the amount of back saving and physical pain we relieved you of, and all the real actual TIME saved setting up and moving pinball games.
Get the Amazon lifter. cut wider outer feet and longer inner feet outta steel . double up the upper plate and Bam. ya got a Pinjack.
anddddd you lose a finger when the thing snaps in half while you are spinning the wheel on the side or underneath as most people do....
@@KylaeJordan the black part looks identical to the pinjack. its not gonna snap in half worst case it would creep down. i cut a slot in the top threads of the feet so i can use a screwdriver to adjust them from the top. no need to get your fingers under them.
Or better yet double nut the top of the feet threads then you can use a ratchet and socket on the adjuster and not worry about having to lift the machine.
LOL pinball is so stupid
Nice edits.