How the Once-Hated God of Melee Became Esports' Greatest Popoff Artist

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2022
  • There are countless ways for esports competitors to express themselves into immortality.
    Whether it’s in the form of awe-inspiring no scopes, perfectly timed Aegis steals, expertly executed outplays or improvised moments of genius.
    But perhaps the most visceral form of self-expression in all of competitive gaming, actually comes after the play itself; I’m talking, of course, about the pop-off.
    Pop-offs can be elaborately planned performances, or off-the-cuff emotional releases. They can add exclamation points to emphatic victories, and in some cases, they can become bigger than the players themselves.
    But when it comes to these occasionally over-the-top acts of victorious self-expression, perhaps no single game boasts a catalog thicker than Super Smash Bros Melee.
    And chief among Melee’s pantheon of pop-off performers has to be none other than Juan “Hungrybox” Debiedma - the ‘puff playing, grub-loving mad lad who has built a reputation for losing himself in the moment.
    Written by: Devin Coull (@Fake_DevinCoull)
    Hosted & Produced by: Dimitri Pascaluta (@DPascaluta)
    Edited by: Matthew Massey
    Produced by: Miles Hackett (@miles_hackett)
    Thumbnail Design by: Bennett Grainger
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    Music used under license from Associated Production Music LLC (”APM”).
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  • @searra3158
    @searra3158 ปีที่แล้ว +464

    He is the only man I’ve seen that has been able to physically rest himself

    • @mrxafr3723
      @mrxafr3723 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      LMAOOOOOO

    • @bacheese
      @bacheese ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No, I do it every night!

    • @emuzoo0913
      @emuzoo0913 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      The best part is that he actually fainted. Lmfao

    • @Ridlay_
      @Ridlay_ ปีที่แล้ว

      Broo

    • @dunkzilla1
      @dunkzilla1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bacheese lucky…

  • @monkey9186
    @monkey9186 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I was at Smash Con this year, and got to watch an unstressed Hbox set against a random wii fit player. The game went to game 3, and when Hbox won with a roll read rest. He popped off so hard on this teenager, he jumped like three feet in the air out of his chair, and then cheered loudly as he moved as far as he could with the crowd dispersing from around the set up. It was such a surreal moment, and it makes all of his popoffs that much better. He doesn’t do it for the camera, it’s not acting. He genuinely pops off incredibly hard when he wins, and I respect that. I respect Hbox for popping off after beating a teenager in round 2 pools

  • @DoMorrMusic
    @DoMorrMusic ปีที่แล้ว +297

    the three things Hungrybox is known for:
    - popping off
    - playing Jigglypuff
    - having a crab thrown at him

    • @joshuaatehortua7352
      @joshuaatehortua7352 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      4th: fainting on stream

    • @Christmasmoose714
      @Christmasmoose714 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      5th: Dropping an entire pizza on stream

    • @hugohaase6074
      @hugohaase6074 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      6th: getting reverse popoffed by IBDW

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one ปีที่แล้ว +6

      [reads 3rd] Excuse meWUT

    • @cylnder
      @cylnder ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Ramsey276one yes

  • @thanatos238
    @thanatos238 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    The clip where he popped off so hard he passed out gets me everytime

  • @kisapniaq
    @kisapniaq ปีที่แล้ว +112

    No mention of “And no one can match his pop offs and come out alive, even if the anti-popoff from GOML 2022 and his set against iBDW was a glorious effort”

    • @ignatoseg4664
      @ignatoseg4664 ปีที่แล้ว

      the ball grab tech was an insane

  • @JacobBush16
    @JacobBush16 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Wish the entire build up to this video was about the reverse pop off iBDW did at DoubleDown on him.
    Hbox defined the pop-off meta. iBDW maybe have just changed that meta 😅

  • @jorjor500
    @jorjor500 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    He's also one of the biggest voices in the scene trying to get legitimate attention drawn to smash from Nintendo. He wants the game to succeed more than anything, and it's from a place of passion. It's always nice to see someone work so hard for something they love.

    • @maxspecs
      @maxspecs ปีที่แล้ว

      Still the only Melee God to beat Reggie Fils-Amie in Smash.
      Some might say it’s because he’s the only one who’s ever *played* Reggie, but that’s simply semantics.

  • @MrVoltySquirrel
    @MrVoltySquirrel ปีที่แล้ว +5

    bro my man was barfing up blood while riddled with the plague just to gatekeep losers

  • @wildohhh
    @wildohhh ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Picked a great time releasing this after Double Down

  • @Flow_425
    @Flow_425 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    It really says something about melee that he still gets that much emotion out of winning in a game he’s played for 20 years. This game is sick

  • @Jiggy1
    @Jiggy1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You can take the dog out of the fight, but can never get rid of the fight in the dog. H-box is a legend, and I will always admire his love and dedication to the game.

  • @gwynbliedd_
    @gwynbliedd_ ปีที่แล้ว +25

    TheScore: "... or just slowing down" shows picture of Mang0.
    less than a month later...
    Mang0 beats Hbox in two sets to win Super Smash Con on Winner's side.
    Mang0: "How many time do I have to prove myself?"

  • @TheyCallMeMrMaybe
    @TheyCallMeMrMaybe ปีที่แล้ว +24

    >some Melee players
    It's okay, Dmitri. We all know it's mostly Leffen.

  • @detom1941
    @detom1941 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    9:36 Leffen saying that is just so ironic

  • @itszaque5031
    @itszaque5031 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Considering smash players (and fighting game players in general) are the owners of some of the most awkward pop-offs in history, it’s fun to see a man with as wide a range as Hbox. Some are powerful, some are awkward, some even become memes. But all are iconic.
    …side note, it’s funny that every time they talked about people still hating on hbox it’s all Leffen, who’s generally one of the bigger jerks in the community

  • @KTSpeedruns
    @KTSpeedruns ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hungrybox builds up so much emotion. That fire has to explode sooner or later.

  • @mcrsmash8319
    @mcrsmash8319 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I had no idea he got this much hate before, Seems like everyone loves him now in the ultimate community

    • @NightGhost-qs6yw
      @NightGhost-qs6yw ปีที่แล้ว +35

      The ultimate community honestly had a big part to play with how much love hbox gets now.

    • @yankees2864
      @yankees2864 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@NightGhost-qs6yw it was both the ultimate community and the melee community turning there opinion around, to the point where Hbox's fansbase rivals Mango's.

    • @Psilo33_
      @Psilo33_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most ult fans are too young to have seen Melee Hbox.

    • @yuvibitter
      @yuvibitter ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@yankees2864 nah. I disagree. I've been watching competitive melee for almost a decade now, and I've been an hbox fan from the start. I thought puff was cool and enjoyed watching, but every time he'd win the entire chat would rage in anger. And people don't really talk about the complicity of the other pro players in encouraging that hatred. It's really not just Leffen and Mango. Even after the crab thing, most of them - while they said "that's bad don't do that" - I didn't see any of them take any responsibility in creating that toxicity. Even in the last summit after Mang0 lost to him he trash talked like he wouldn't anyone else. Even though things changed, watching him in the context of ultimate vs melee I can still feel the tension in the latter. I still see hatred in melee. It's less, but it still lingers, and if anything helped other than ultimate community - which didn't rush to judge him - it's the newer gods like Zain and IBDW who seem to genuinely like and respect him. I hope melee community grew up but honestly I think it's an issue of other top players and community leaders not really reflecting on their part in creating it. Just my two cents

    • @napster7413
      @napster7413 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yuvibitter I think I remember a clip of Armada talkking about how hated Hbox was and Im pretty sure that he was, even just a bit, taking the blame. I dont know for Leffen and Mango tho but I think that thing got better between Hbox and Mango.

  • @TWzonenoflexxOD
    @TWzonenoflexxOD ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I didnt know of hbox until the he hosted a multiversus tournament. Then I just went back to watch the doc on it. This channel is great. I'm not in the FGC community but the stories are as good as 30for30.

  • @w33aboojones
    @w33aboojones ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hearing Yoshis Story while Hbox passes out gets me every time.

  • @LainIwakura
    @LainIwakura ปีที่แล้ว +4

    9:16 bro leffen out of all people💀

  • @DonRoss405
    @DonRoss405 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:07 "...no single e-sport boasts a catalog thicker than melee." A little thought of side effect, I think, from Melee's past requirement of being played on CRTs.

  • @charlesw7397
    @charlesw7397 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's funny how badly the crab throw backfired on that Hbox hater. I've never liked Hbox as a player and always jokingly called him shit but even I thought that the crab was way too far. It's pretty funny but not acceptable behavior. Felt a little bad for him after that. I still don't root for him but my "hate" for him has died down quite a bit (and I think many people feel the same way)

  • @LeafaR11
    @LeafaR11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Melee is legendary. Pls have more ssbm stories and video articles

  • @PickleAndPearBTBM
    @PickleAndPearBTBM ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the fact that the second clip of Hbox in the entire video is him dropping the pizza 😭😭

  • @Jammert
    @Jammert ปีที่แล้ว +2

    about time we get more smash content

  • @tomoe7255
    @tomoe7255 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Idk about ''once-hated'',he pull off a pretty ''sick'' move at double down 💀

    • @pizzaslice1702
      @pizzaslice1702 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @yankees2864
      @yankees2864 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He apoligized and said he would do better, every makes mistakes, even something as stupid as that. He wore a mask at Regen from what I saw on stream.

  • @Neo_X90X
    @Neo_X90X ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love or Hate him, he's that guy, will always be so till the end of time.

  • @Clairavoya
    @Clairavoya ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Some members of the Melee community just couldn't get past the past", meanwhile it's just Leffen being Leffen lmao. But anyway, the crab incident definitely showed it a lot more just how crazy people were willing to get with hating him

  • @Ninjaicedragon
    @Ninjaicedragon ปีที่แล้ว

    Die hard Melee and smash player here, Great video THANKS

  • @festusfive9157
    @festusfive9157 ปีที่แล้ว

    "no one would hold it against juan if he did just that". Except mango...and probably also himself.

  • @KeyboardKlutz_0
    @KeyboardKlutz_0 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always think back on Fow's pop off from when he beaat Wizzrobe. That was so raw and emotional.

  • @kingboo_2237
    @kingboo_2237 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:59 my favourite Pop off eVEEEERRR

  • @sirboxalot6654
    @sirboxalot6654 ปีที่แล้ว

    My man was just showing us a real life rest

  • @SFUTH
    @SFUTH ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to find the stream that's at 5:13 because that's him watching one of my old college's smash tournaments.

  • @TopOfAllWorlds
    @TopOfAllWorlds ปีที่แล้ว

    1:35 AY THATS PROJECT M LETS GO

  • @clap5108
    @clap5108 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite one has to be "REMEMBER THE FUCKING NAME".

  • @sivartnospmis9101
    @sivartnospmis9101 ปีที่แล้ว

    more melee content plz!

  • @sohamwarde9791
    @sohamwarde9791 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:32 Actually thought it would be that Ryu clip once again

  • @saviorudoh5423
    @saviorudoh5423 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to see more melee content

  • @jeffkaplan6284
    @jeffkaplan6284 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:42 he didn’t have to violate coach billy baker like that 💀💀💀💀

  • @Kkakdugii
    @Kkakdugii ปีที่แล้ว

    More Melee!

  • @tharetsku
    @tharetsku ปีที่แล้ว

    Commenting for the algorithm & more melee content

  • @Astar72439
    @Astar72439 ปีที่แล้ว

    The infamous popoff that killed a man

  • @The_DGO
    @The_DGO ปีที่แล้ว

    There was a year or so after Armada retired where it seemed like hungrybox was happier when someone managed to beat him. He never made it easy though.

  • @x9x9x9x9x9
    @x9x9x9x9x9 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did this video not mention the reverse pop-off?

  • @natez31796
    @natez31796 ปีที่แล้ว

    smashermagazine is indeed a talented smasher

  • @Jammert
    @Jammert ปีที่แล้ว

    Leffen of all people should never be aloud to say who is aloud 2nd chances

  • @GauFntastic
    @GauFntastic ปีที่แล้ว

    What a title

  • @sivartnospmis9101
    @sivartnospmis9101 ปีที่แล้ว

    @12:14 "the doctor said i burst 3 of 4 blood vessels in my foot"
    ...... yea, so you got a bruise after kicking a metal chair hbox XD

  • @Pygmay
    @Pygmay ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "The popoff can seem BM"
    The clip is really fine ... I'm following the Melee scene from very far and never understood why Hbox was so divisive. It seems to me he is taking constant shit for no reasons.

  • @mynamejot8623
    @mynamejot8623 ปีที่แล้ว

    PLEASE DO MORE MELEE CONTENT

  • @RobSomeone
    @RobSomeone ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a fighting game player and not a smash player, HBox is by far and away, hands down, not even close, my favorite smash player.

    • @IllusionistsBane
      @IllusionistsBane ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not even a Smash fan and HBox is the only Smash player I like. The Melee community was just projecting when they say HBox is killing Melee.

  • @bacheese
    @bacheese ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One time at a sorta "special edition" of my local, like not quite enough to be considered a regional but more than a local, when I played melee during warmup/friendlies time before pools I played onstage on the stream setup. Everytime I won a game I popped off as close as I could to Hungrybox. Even replicating the fainting popoff to a tee, after literally practicing it at home. I fell to the ground to close the act and everyone lost their minds laughing. It was a true moment of passion among the community and I'm glad I could make everyone laugh.
    Need I clarify: I asked everyone beforehand if they minded since I knew it would be loud. They all said they'd find it hilarious and to go for it. I didn't drive anyone crazy.

  • @Sasoripwns
    @Sasoripwns ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's go melee!

  • @armchairowlyst
    @armchairowlyst ปีที่แล้ว +15

    his covid popped off at double down that's for sure 💀

  • @kilometeres1962
    @kilometeres1962 ปีที่แล้ว

    25% into the video - "before we get into the video"

  • @vick7848
    @vick7848 ปีที่แล้ว

    LETS GO HGOD 👑
    LETS GO MELEE 💙

  • @stayslapped1568
    @stayslapped1568 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:56 poggers

  • @ardege7270
    @ardege7270 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cold

  • @Mars-pw4iw
    @Mars-pw4iw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I the only one who thought we clicked on an hbox vid?

  • @TaiSharTanner
    @TaiSharTanner ปีที่แล้ว

    I love melee content!!!!

  • @OwOKrieger
    @OwOKrieger ปีที่แล้ว

    The Fupa Supreme.

  • @disc0duck
    @disc0duck ปีที่แล้ว

    Meleeee!!!!

  • @joshborders2844
    @joshborders2844 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Once-hated”

  • @spencerbaker521
    @spencerbaker521 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    make some videos about tetris. that will be amazing

  • @PSPHunter96
    @PSPHunter96 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The timing of this video especially with this title is...questionable to say the least lmao

  • @quadman4448
    @quadman4448 ปีที่แล้ว

    More melee content

  • @azuresoul9014
    @azuresoul9014 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is leffen even in here with his past

  • @SmasherMagazine
    @SmasherMagazine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey i know that DJ guy

    • @FamineKid
      @FamineKid ปีที่แล้ว

      oh shit, it's the DJ guy

  • @patc1096
    @patc1096 ปีที่แล้ว

    Demitri at the end quoting Canadian is perfect.

  • @kalarse
    @kalarse ปีที่แล้ว

    reminder that the best Hbox popoff was from ibdw's one on him!

  • @Derpy47
    @Derpy47 ปีที่แล้ว

    LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @windowsxp2255
    @windowsxp2255 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just don't throw a crab at him

  • @raymndd4698
    @raymndd4698 ปีที่แล้ว

    its acc funny how people genuinely hate him because he plays a puffy pink thing in a 20 year old kids game

  • @tgo007
    @tgo007 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it true that puff for the longest time was considered low tier and then hungrybox made him top tier?
    This normally isn't anything special but melee is super old. So for something to be "undiscovered" for so long is kind of crazy.

    • @MarthMain
      @MarthMain ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea it took like brawl came out to realize she was really good. But mango was the first top tier puff. Hbox just never switched mains and is now the top puff. He never left the pink ball

  • @stephane8756
    @stephane8756 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A video on my favorite esports player ever? Let’s go!!!

  • @dolphinlord5412
    @dolphinlord5412 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    magnoBB

  • @bon_grippah
    @bon_grippah ปีที่แล้ว

    Big miss on the Anti-popoff

  • @roto469
    @roto469 ปีที่แล้ว

    “once-hated”
    lol

  • @James-cs1ki
    @James-cs1ki ปีที่แล้ว

    More melee

  • @JoSam12
    @JoSam12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once hated he's still hated lol

  • @toaster154
    @toaster154 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes i will comment 400 times for more melee content, what about it????

  • @BatpegBackAgain
    @BatpegBackAgain ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay melee :)

  • @arj6571
    @arj6571 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Melee community is what all parents fear their children will become when they start gaming.

  • @x9x9x9x9x9
    @x9x9x9x9x9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am not a fan of hbox really but I am a big fan of the hbox story line. He shows up as an underdog and gets cheered for, then he gets good and he is the disliked underdog but not hated. Then leffen enters the scene and makes hbox the most hated player (leffen is super toxic for the scene). Hbox becomes the best player in the world for a few years basically causing armada to retire. Hbox is still the most hated. Ultimate comes around and things change. Hbox gets new fans for ultimate and streaming. Those new fans get into melee because of hbox. Hbox slowly loses his touch with melee as Zain rises up. Covid happens. Zain takes over. Covid restrictions loosen up and your tournaments start to come back but hbox is clearly not at the top anymore. Hbox for the first time in 5+ years is getting cheered for. Hbox is again the underdog who can on occasion show us that he is worthy of being one of the 5 god's.
    When I heard people cheering for hbox (I mean a large portion of the crowd not just a few people) in the last year or 2 I was blown away. I had seen people slowly start cheering for him in live chat if tournaments but hearing the crowd actually doing it was wild. I am really happy for the guy. He got way more hate than he deserved. Ask players that dislike his why they dislike him. They will get caught off guard. I think the only valid criticism is his play style and puff which is why I'm not a big fan. But he isn't a bad guy. There are only a couple of occasions I will cheer for hbox. It's if he is playing against leffen or ibdw and sometimes even zain. But I do like seeing hbox make it top 8. Just not top 4 unless the other members are the previously mentioned players. Then I'm cheering hard for the hgod.
    My timeline might be slightly off but it's still mostly how it's gone down from my point of view.

    • @SISMNTB
      @SISMNTB ปีที่แล้ว

      The fact he was so fucking good even when he couldn't dedicate as much time as his competitors were to playing smash is stupid impressive.

  • @tjgodofchaos3186
    @tjgodofchaos3186 ปีที่แล้ว

    WBox

  • @invalidssb
    @invalidssb ปีที่แล้ว

    very kewl

  • @nari1897
    @nari1897 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hgod

  • @KenFrazierX
    @KenFrazierX ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My biggest flex is I’ve always liked Hbox

  • @hallucinatingsiren
    @hallucinatingsiren ปีที่แล้ว

    The emplemon doc helped

  • @thepoobandit2850
    @thepoobandit2850 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “Once hated” implies he isn’t still hated and let me tell ya that is not the case

  • @hack_jammer
    @hack_jammer ปีที่แล้ว

    MANGO MANGO MANGO MANGO
    🥭
    🥭
    🥭

  • @dytra_io
    @dytra_io ปีที่แล้ว

    wtf no valorant mastee video yet

  • @kaiserauthoria
    @kaiserauthoria ปีที่แล้ว

    The most Alpha Pop off is the Reverse pop off... hahahaha iBDW VS HBOX

  • @thepoobandit2850
    @thepoobandit2850 ปีที่แล้ว

    Him fainting always seemed super fake to me

    • @AAdams-qi5lz
      @AAdams-qi5lz ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, if you go that hard you WILL faint from oxygen deprivation lol. That's about what it looks like. Lights are on, nobody is home for a sec, the brain gets some oxygen and things fire back up again in a few secs.

  • @SJQVlogs
    @SJQVlogs ปีที่แล้ว

    Once hated lol

  • @fathertaira
    @fathertaira ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact that anything leffen said was considered at all is dumb lol.
    Bro is an absolute clown.

  • @dinizeqiri7990
    @dinizeqiri7990 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi

  • @cd5139
    @cd5139 ปีที่แล้ว

    He's cute but he's goofy

  • @matiasmoreno3562
    @matiasmoreno3562 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He is born in Argentina right? . You haters wouldnt undesrtand the proud in our veins :) .