Jeff first off your rifle staining and finishing are beautiful, I have built a few in my day and am getting ready for another one before the PA deer season starts but what is undoubtedly striking is your near imperceptible inletting work without a hint of gaps noticeable on any of the flats or radius and your touch hole placement just above the pan and beautifully in line not to forward and not to high right wear it needs to lay. You have honed the craft well and may I say bravo.
thank you. I usually build sometimes 3 a year mostly as winter projects when I'm not out in the field with my camera doing wildlife and nature photography. Glad you liked the rifle.
The styling of this particular rifle is a little later than Kings Mountain. Kings Mountain battle was, I believe, in 1780. This rifle is styled more in the 1815-1830 timeframe. Military arms were typically smooth bore muskets like the Brown Bess and Charleville. Any rifles used at Kings Mountain would most likely have been heavier stocked, larger caliber like a A Virginia Rifle or like the one on my channel titled: "History Re-created: Iron Mounted Flintlock Longrifle. Pennsylvania - Kentucky style." I'm not an expert in the Rev War battles like Kings Mountain; however, given time frame, the one mentioned above would be closer to the type that may have been used. Hope this helps.
thanks and glad you liked the video. Yes, all the hardware is steel. The side plate is my own design that I copied from an original. Toe plate is cut from the same sheet steel as the side plate. Rest of the hardware is stuff I bought and modified to my needs. I like small bores. 32's are fun. I also like 36 a whole lot.
Glad I came across this!!! This is exactly what I was hoping to build in .36 or .40. What lock did you use? I think a large lock is going to be too big for what I’m wanting to build. This is a project that’s going to be started before and probably finished after a Kibler kit plan to do during the summer. I’m using locally obtained wood and trying to do as much with hand tools as I can.
glad you enjoyed it. I really like .36 cal rifles. My personal small bore target rifle is a 36 cal. A lot of the small game hunters like the .32 and they are great. I think for a target rifle, the 36 is a little better at bucking wind and 36 is still small enough to use for small game (well, I've shot squirrels with 40's too. I like small bore rifles a lot. The lock is from Bus Ridge Flintlocks (LC Rice runs the company). First one I've used on a rifle but a buddy has one on his small bore and it is really a quick lock. I normally use small Siler locks on the small bore southern rifles. Just round off the pointy tip on the lock to make it look more traditional Southern. If I'm building a little bigger rifle I will use the Late Ketland a lot. This lock is similar to the Late Ketland and it may be one I use a lot more in the future. I like the lock a lot.
Mark - sure. The trigger guard is a Carolina guard from Muzzleloader Builder's Supply. I altered the "pinky hook" on it to make it less pronounced. The butt plate is a heavily modified Bonowitz from Pecatonica River Longrifle Supply. the Bonowitz has facets on top which I rounded off, I heated it up and squeezed it in the vice to take some of the curve out since I wanted a fairly flat profile to the butt stock. The toe plate is from a piece of sheet steel I had laying around. The nose cap is just a basic steel nose cap to fit the barrel. I believe it is 1.5". Thimbles are just round steel thimbles to fit a 5/16" ramrod. Lock is from Buck Ridge Flintlocks. Triggers are the small set from Davis (I think, I have several sets of triggers in the shop and I just picked a set that fit the trigger guard I wanted to use. They may have been from Buck Ridge or someone else but I think I remember them being Davis). The side plate I made from some sheet steel about 3/32" thick (just stuff I had in the shop). The pattern was copied from an original Appalachian rifle that was in the collection of the man who taught me how to build rifles (he died about 25 years ago, still miss him). Hope this helps.
@@marknatale1617 38" swamp 36 cal rifle leaves you with a whole lot of options. Something like this one (it was a 42" Rice A-weight Swamp) but 38 would work. You could go something in the Isaac Haines kind of style. I built a Bucks County a few years back with a 50 cal 38" straight (7/8") barrel that was a sweet handling gun. Deer Hunter's delight for sure. The owner has taken several deer with it. Good luck with your build. Hope it goes well and please do share pics with us when you get it together.
I have built two Chambers kits….an Isaac Haines .54 38 inch C weight Rice that is my elk rifle, handles very well; currently finishing a Little Fella (Beck) rifle .50 34 inch rice swamped….wanted a light rifle for hunting javelina and coues deer…comes in at 6 lbs 10 ounces….next build will be a .36 smallbore from a blank with barrel inletted/ramrod hole drilled. Like the looks of yours. Want to stay away from heavily curved butt. Thanks for all the feedback.
@@marknatale1617 Thanks for the kind compliments. I've built 7 or 8 with the deeply curved butt plates. I would like to say, piece of cake, no worries. Honestly, they are a pain. Additionally, I do not find them overly comfortable to shoot offhand. Shooting over the log or in any prone position they are much more comfortable than offhand. Many of the Appalachian rifles with the deeply crescent butt plates were indeed over the log target rifles back in the old times and when you lay down and put the barrel on a big chunk of wood, they become quite comfortable to shoot. However, I don't like them for off hand or for hunting rifles.
Thank you. I enjoy building them. This wasn't a kit. Made by me. started with a rough cut stock from Pecatonica, parts from various suppliers and created the rifle with rasps and chisels. I have about 90 hours in this one. I have just a few hundred dollars less invested than a Kibler but I also have about 70 more hours in building it but it's a labor of love. Also, building one like this, it doesn't look just like every other Kibler kit one sees on the firing line or out in the woods. Each rifle is a unique creation in and of itself.
Hey Jeff, beautiful work on this rifle. Beautiful finish on the wood and hardware. Does the hardware come pre finished? When is the video of you out hunting with it? 🤔
Thanks Greg. No, the hardware is no pre finished. The toe plate and side plate I cut from a piece of 1/16" thick sheet steel. The other parts are either forged or cast and left rough. The finish process is file, sand, polish, polish and did I mention polish? I apply a cold blue solution and then use fine grit wet/dry abrasive e paper and 0000 steel wool to card it off to give the aged gray finish. I don't hunt any more so maybe a photo of shooting at some targets. :)
Thanks for the info, beautiful and true craftsmanship. After I asked and sent, I remembered you don't hunt . Perhaps some video of you firing it would be cool. Greg
What possible reason could you have for adding music to a video like this? All it did was make it almost impossible for me to understand what was being said!-- That's right after years of being too stupid to wear hearing protection shooting, now I have all sounds garbled and constant loud ringing in my ears.
without the music there is just a lot of dead air space as folks have pointed out on other of my videos. Sorry you found it a distraction. Unfortunately, there is no way to create a perfect video for every viewer. I, too, have Tinnitus and understand the ringing in ears. Too many years of shooting without proper protection and playing in loud bands standing next to drummers when I was younger.
@@JeffandLeslie Thanks for taking the time to answer an old complaining coot but it wasn't just distracting, I couldn't make out what was being said at all. Maybe you could put the sound of Spring Peepers or Katydids on-- that way I would be able to hear them--- as it is now I can't hear them at all-- even Cicadas at full blast. Hope all goes well with you and your projects!
@@joeeckley5272 Joe, if you check the "about" link on my channel, you can send me an email. I can shoot a link to you for the video without the music. I don't think TH-cam will allow me to put a link for something off the site in the comments but I can send a link where you can download the video without the music. Happy to do it. Jeff.
Jeff first off your rifle staining and finishing are beautiful, I have built a few in my day and am getting ready for another one before the PA deer season starts but what is undoubtedly striking is your near imperceptible inletting work without a hint of gaps noticeable on any of the flats or radius and your touch hole placement just above the pan and beautifully in line not to forward and not to high right wear it needs to lay. You have honed the craft well and may I say bravo.
Thank you for such kind words. Much appreciated.
Beautiful gun.
Thank you
Wow. You did a fantastic job on that beautiful rifle. Thanks for sharing.
thank you. I usually build sometimes 3 a year mostly as winter projects when I'm not out in the field with my camera doing wildlife and nature photography. Glad you liked the rifle.
Wow. Beautiful gun. I would love to build one, and in that caliber too.
Thank you. I would say go for it. Just take your time and pay attention to details. If I can do it I’m quite sure you can too.
Awesome looking rifle ! I love the metal finish on your rifles.
Thank you
Were they used At kings mountain?
The styling of this particular rifle is a little later than Kings Mountain. Kings Mountain battle was, I believe, in 1780. This rifle is styled more in the 1815-1830 timeframe. Military arms were typically smooth bore muskets like the Brown Bess and Charleville. Any rifles used at Kings Mountain would most likely have been heavier stocked, larger caliber like a A Virginia Rifle or like the one on my channel titled: "History Re-created: Iron Mounted Flintlock Longrifle. Pennsylvania - Kentucky style." I'm not an expert in the Rev War battles like Kings Mountain; however, given time frame, the one mentioned above would be closer to the type that may have been used. Hope this helps.
Nice
thank you
That’s a beautiful looking rifle.
32 caliber will be my next rifle as well.
Enjoyed the video.
Question.
Is that all steel hardware that you used?
thanks and glad you liked the video. Yes, all the hardware is steel. The side plate is my own design that I copied from an original. Toe plate is cut from the same sheet steel as the side plate. Rest of the hardware is stuff I bought and modified to my needs. I like small bores. 32's are fun. I also like 36 a whole lot.
Glad I came across this!!! This is exactly what I was hoping to build in .36 or .40. What lock did you use? I think a large lock is going to be too big for what I’m wanting to build. This is a project that’s going to be started before and probably finished after a Kibler kit plan to do during the summer. I’m using locally obtained wood and trying to do as much with hand tools as I can.
glad you enjoyed it. I really like .36 cal rifles. My personal small bore target rifle is a 36 cal. A lot of the small game hunters like the .32 and they are great. I think for a target rifle, the 36 is a little better at bucking wind and 36 is still small enough to use for small game (well, I've shot squirrels with 40's too. I like small bore rifles a lot. The lock is from Bus Ridge Flintlocks (LC Rice runs the company). First one I've used on a rifle but a buddy has one on his small bore and it is really a quick lock. I normally use small Siler locks on the small bore southern rifles. Just round off the pointy tip on the lock to make it look more traditional Southern. If I'm building a little bigger rifle I will use the Late Ketland a lot. This lock is similar to the Late Ketland and it may be one I use a lot more in the future. I like the lock a lot.
Jeff, can you tell me what buttplate and trigger guard you used? What source? Thanks
Mark - sure. The trigger guard is a Carolina guard from Muzzleloader Builder's Supply. I altered the "pinky hook" on it to make it less pronounced. The butt plate is a heavily modified Bonowitz from Pecatonica River Longrifle Supply. the Bonowitz has facets on top which I rounded off, I heated it up and squeezed it in the vice to take some of the curve out since I wanted a fairly flat profile to the butt stock. The toe plate is from a piece of sheet steel I had laying around. The nose cap is just a basic steel nose cap to fit the barrel. I believe it is 1.5". Thimbles are just round steel thimbles to fit a 5/16" ramrod. Lock is from Buck Ridge Flintlocks. Triggers are the small set from Davis (I think, I have several sets of triggers in the shop and I just picked a set that fit the trigger guard I wanted to use. They may have been from Buck Ridge or someone else but I think I remember them being Davis). The side plate I made from some sheet steel about 3/32" thick (just stuff I had in the shop). The pattern was copied from an original Appalachian rifle that was in the collection of the man who taught me how to build rifles (he died about 25 years ago, still miss him). Hope this helps.
Thanks for the info…very nice rifle….just ordered a38 inch .36 swamped barrel from colerain…wanted to build something along those lines…
@@marknatale1617 38" swamp 36 cal rifle leaves you with a whole lot of options. Something like this one (it was a 42" Rice A-weight Swamp) but 38 would work. You could go something in the Isaac Haines kind of style. I built a Bucks County a few years back with a 50 cal 38" straight (7/8") barrel that was a sweet handling gun. Deer Hunter's delight for sure. The owner has taken several deer with it.
Good luck with your build. Hope it goes well and please do share pics with us when you get it together.
I have built two Chambers kits….an Isaac Haines .54 38 inch C weight Rice that is my elk rifle, handles very well; currently finishing a Little Fella (Beck) rifle .50 34 inch rice swamped….wanted a light rifle for hunting javelina and coues deer…comes in at 6 lbs 10 ounces….next build will be a .36 smallbore from a blank with barrel inletted/ramrod hole drilled. Like the looks of yours. Want to stay away from heavily curved butt. Thanks for all the feedback.
@@marknatale1617 Thanks for the kind compliments. I've built 7 or 8 with the deeply curved butt plates. I would like to say, piece of cake, no worries. Honestly, they are a pain. Additionally, I do not find them overly comfortable to shoot offhand. Shooting over the log or in any prone position they are much more comfortable than offhand. Many of the Appalachian rifles with the deeply crescent butt plates were indeed over the log target rifles back in the old times and when you lay down and put the barrel on a big chunk of wood, they become quite comfortable to shoot. However, I don't like them for off hand or for hunting rifles.
Great job. Was thus a Kibler setup or another kit and what was you time in completion?
Thank you. I enjoy building them. This wasn't a kit. Made by me. started with a rough cut stock from Pecatonica, parts from various suppliers and created the rifle with rasps and chisels. I have about 90 hours in this one. I have just a few hundred dollars less invested than a Kibler but I also have about 70 more hours in building it but it's a labor of love. Also, building one like this, it doesn't look just like every other Kibler kit one sees on the firing line or out in the woods. Each rifle is a unique creation in and of itself.
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Thank you
Hey Jeff, beautiful work on this rifle. Beautiful finish on the wood and hardware. Does the hardware come pre finished?
When is the video of you out hunting with it? 🤔
Thanks Greg. No, the hardware is no pre finished. The toe plate and side plate I cut from a piece of 1/16" thick sheet steel. The other parts are either forged or cast and left rough. The finish process is file, sand, polish, polish and did I mention polish? I apply a cold blue solution and then use fine grit wet/dry abrasive e paper and 0000 steel wool to card it off to give the aged gray finish.
I don't hunt any more so maybe a photo of shooting at some targets. :)
Thanks for the info, beautiful and true craftsmanship. After I asked and sent, I remembered you don't hunt . Perhaps some video of you firing it would be cool. Greg
What possible reason could you have for adding music to a video like this? All it did was make it almost impossible for me to understand what was being said!-- That's right after years of being too stupid to wear hearing protection shooting, now I have all sounds garbled and constant loud ringing in my ears.
without the music there is just a lot of dead air space as folks have pointed out on other of my videos. Sorry you found it a distraction. Unfortunately, there is no way to create a perfect video for every viewer. I, too, have Tinnitus and understand the ringing in ears. Too many years of shooting without proper protection and playing in loud bands standing next to drummers when I was younger.
@@JeffandLeslie Thanks for taking the time to answer an old complaining coot but it wasn't just distracting, I couldn't make out what was being said at all. Maybe you could put the sound of Spring Peepers or Katydids on-- that way I would be able to hear them--- as it is now I can't hear them at all-- even Cicadas at full blast. Hope all goes well with you and your projects!
@@joeeckley5272 Joe, if you check the "about" link on my channel, you can send me an email. I can shoot a link to you for the video without the music. I don't think TH-cam will allow me to put a link for something off the site in the comments but I can send a link where you can download the video without the music. Happy to do it. Jeff.