You can do both at the same time... In the Starch Solution by John McDougall the basis of the diet is eating: 1. Half a plate of non-starchy vegetables. 2. Half a plate of starchy foods from tubers like potatoes and sweet potatoes, from legumes and beans and/or from whole grains. And fruit as dessert...eating nuts infrequently. In Joel Fuhrman's nutritarian diet he recommends... 1. 2 pounds of vegetables, half cooked and half raw including greens and mushrooms. 2. 1-2 cups of beans And a variety of other foods in his GBOMBS - greens, beans, onions, mushorooms, berries, nuts and seeds Furhman's diet recommends 30%-60% of calories from vegetables (those vegetables can include sweet potatoes) 10%-40% of calories from fruit 10%-40% of calories from beans and legumes 20% or less of calories from whole grains and/or potatoes. 10%-40% of calories from seeds, nuts and/or avocados. So you could definitely follow a McDougall diet if you were following Fuhrman's nutritarian diet because McDougall classifies beans and legumes as a starch source. The only difference would be actively eating nuts and seeds as at least 10% of calories instead of eating them sporadically. To put that in context that's ensuring you eat around 7 walnuts a day on a 2,000 calorie diet. eg. half a plate of non starchy vegetables including some greens, mushrooms and raw onion 10%-30% of calories from sweet potato 20%-40% of calories from beans and legumes 20% of calories from potatoes fruit as dessert (10%-40% of calories) including some berries like blueberries or strawberries 10% of calories as nuts and seeds eg 7 whole walnuts a day.
I have lost over 45 pounds on Dr. Mcdougall's diet. Instead of berating a methodology of plant based eating, it may be good to have a better understanding of what the methodology is. I like nuts, and it's good to know I can include them in my diet. Dr. Mcdougall says if you want to lose weight faster, restrict fat more, and as you get to your ideal, add the nuts and seeds back in.
Why not eat a nutritarian starchivore diet. Oats with flax in the morning. Sweet potatoes. Tons of beans, greens, fruit, and a handful of unsalted walnuts. No need for a division. 🙏🏼🌱
Dillion, you're a great interviewer. Why? Because unlike a lot of interviews I see by others, you keep quiet and let the person your interviewing talk. You also don't sit there saying yea, yea, right, right the whole time which can be distracting when you're trying to take in what the guest is saying. Great interview. Thanks.
Yes, great interviewer. But if I were being interviewed I'd be nervous with the interviewer gazing at me with barely even blinking. I guess it isn't me, so it's fine. Dr.Fuhrman it seems is not easily unnerved.
bollywoodahoy It’s actually a psychological technique which causes the person to over explain as they are getting no emotional feedback from the interviewer. Job interviewers use it often in order to determine if the person actually understands what they are talking about.
I love dr fuhrman. Seriously the most logical and thorough doctor in the vegan/plant based community. I haven’t ever heard him say anything that I thought wasn’t 100% spot on. He has done his research and he works to get people healthy not just thin.
My daughter was diagnosed with Hodgkins Lymphoma two months ago. She has had 3 rounds of chemo. Two days ago she had a PET Scan. She was initially was stage 4. The report stated that her body had a complete Response to the first three rounds of chemo. They automatically attribute the vast resolution of her inflamed lymph nodes to the chemo drugs alone. Little did they know that my daughter has been on a plant based diet since the original diagnosis. She drinks at least 6 eight ounce glasses of cold pressed green vegetable juice. She also cut out her love of garbage processed food. She has few side effects because of the anti-toxic effect of the plant based diet. This shit works!!!!
First time I have heard a white physician acknowledge the health disparities impacting Black Americans. I wholeheartedly believe and agree with Dr. Fuhrman. As a registered nurse and Black American, I have always strived to eat nutritiously because I don’t believe our high rates of disease are genetically linked. Thank you Dr. Fuhrman for your incredible, life saving work and speaking the truth! ❤️❤️❤️
Same here!! I am so proud of him for expanding even further in his studies to help ALL humans:) I believe he truly cares about everyone’s health. We are all the same inside after all!!!
By the way, such diseases are due to poor nutrition why Africans do not have such diseases we eat real food from the soil from plants each and single day fresh fruits, plenty of green leafy veggies as a must on our daily meals, vegetables raw and cooked and we don't use oils in our food.
Thank you, L F, for your comments. I was going to write essentially the same thing! Black American, retired 76yo who grew up in the Jim Crow south. Even now we still have to deal with the biases of some physicians who too often reluctantly treat Black patients, resulting in inferior health care. I find myself seeking solutions for my own medical issues, and wonder about the care of those who lack some of the knowledge I have. I thank Dr. Fuhrman for sharing his knowledge and wisdom with all of us!
I love the starch solution, I lost weight without being hungry but i could never understand why my depression and agoraphobia were not improving , meds weren't working etc... I started to put fat back into my diet with avocados and nuts...my mood improved immediately . I do believe we need some fats and i think the starch solution is a little restrictive on fats if you are prone to mood disorders. I think the nutritarian is the best way to go, even take a bit from both diets. The starch solution is definitely simpler and easier if you're a busy person. Nutritarian diet is a little more complex but definitely the more superior when it comes to getting every nutrient in nutrient. so my take is starch solution good for weight loss but not good for people with mood disorders. Nutritarian diet has it all but more time consuming.
Dr. Fuhrman's Nutritarian lifestyle just makes the most sense, flood your body with the most anti-disease phytonutrients and avoid the processed junk! I'm applying to medical schools now and Dr. Fuhrman is one of my biggest role models for the kind of physician I want to be in the future :) Great interview!
@@JnTmarie I follow them also, and I love their work (same idea with Dr. Fuhrman- Whole Food Plant Based diet). The thing is, we still need some supplementation, aka B12, DHA, in some cases Zinc, VitD. I agree with you though, most supps aren't necessary, but some are for us WFPB eaters!
Dr. Fuhrman's advice makes so much sense. I feel wonderful since I started eating the Nutritarian method about 12 years ago. It's too bad his advice is criticized by those tied to the dairy and meat industry. It confuses people.
I’m 79 and follow much of this diet. I feel 40 and do not have a pain or any issue in my body. You are what you eat. My vegetarian diet, is almost totally raw and I won’t eat anything that cannot be eaten, unless cooked. No meat. No fish. No trans fats and most definitely, no wheats or grains, or Pasta, etc. I feel wonderful and can outpace my son, who is nearly 50.
Joel Fuhrman is 65 years old here. His skin isn't saggy, the fat on his cheek bones are not falling and he looks really healthy and great! I am listening to this guy for sure!
I noticed the same thing! I never felt good on 'Starch Solution' or 'Forks Over Knives' - all those grains, carbs, cereals, potatoes, corn, bread, etc. I know that we need small amount of healthy omega 3 fats. We are not meant to eat zero-fat/low protein/high sugar starchy foods. The zero-fat doctors are aging so much faster than those who eat more greens than grains, etc. They look dramatically OLDER than Dr. Fuhrman. I like that Dr. Fuhrman leans more toward raw foods too, and diet strong in phytonutrients and anti-cancer/anti-heart/diabetes benefits.
I tried both, and both worked for me so now I combine them with one day having a nutritarian breakfast and dinner and a high carb lunch and then the next day a high carb breakfast and dinner and a nutritarian lunch. But I don't have all three meals just one approach on the same day. It works really well for me, stacks of energy, weight down, skin tightening, hormones feeling more balanced etc.I think I'm doing it right [for me] as when it comes down to it they're BOTH right and you just have to work out how to make it work best for you as we're all individuals. There are no 'wrong answers'! The only 'common denominator' I stick to is being WFPB.
You can't say something, like this, 'worked', until you have been doing it for 10 years....we are not just talking about weightloss or performance, but the LONG TERM effects...be on Nutritarian for 20 years, then reassess and continue...that's how it's done, not just short term (2-3 years is still short term), life style, life-long, then you get the benefits!!...Why it's important to have kids do it!!! can you imagine if you were Nutritarian since birth!! I personally would have been an Olympic runner, had I known
Don't conflate being tolerant with what's best. It makes sense to eat some starchy veggies now and then, especially if you feel like you need them. But sweet potatoes, while quite delicious - and they go great with steamed greens, by the way - aren't nearly as nutritions as kale or mushrooms or onions. We need to understand micronutrient density and understand why that's the measure of the healhfullness of our diet and our likely longevity. There's no way a baked potato is as healthy as a large raw salad with a dressing made from fruit, nuts or seeds, and vinegar. A large salad with some baked potato put in is way better than a baked potato with a small salad. We need to know which direction to push. What the base of the diet should be.
Thanks, Dillon, for doing another informative interview and asking such great questions. Thanks to Dr. Fuhrman for granting the interview and sharing his incredible wealth of information.
Thank you so much for bringing up the history and current situation of food deserts in the inner cities! I appreciate his genuine concern for the health of lower income Black Americans. I love that he didn't allow the establishment to convince him that we don't care about what we eat. He clearly sees people as people and knew better. Just subscribed
Yes! Yes! Yes!!! He speaks the truth and I hope he opens more eyes to what is really going on with inner city and targeted living areas!!!!! Finally, a Dr. that whole heartedly is telling the truth in all aspects.
Deborah Richie that is true. I am just saying personally, I have NEVER heard ANY DOCTOR point out the extreme obvious of lower income black Americans targeted by the fast food and low nutritional lunches in the schools. You can in fact, find case studies that prove this to be true.
Thanks sounds good. On most days I take a large salad to work that I eat for both breakfast and lunch with many components including: kale, spinach, cilantro, shrooms, red onion, tomato, peppers, beans & chia or hemp seeds, with a homemade sunflower seed or nut based dressing. I need to completely cut out the sugar that I eat too often in the evenings. I'm still slowly losing weight though.
Black, red, and brown sprouted rice is not intact grain right? It's just something I already have prepared. OK, I get plenty of greens, veggies, legumes & seeds, but need more intact grains, berries & other fruit rather than too much Ezekiel bread, corn tortillas, chocolate & other processed stuff in the evenings. Thanks for the inspiration.
what is going on with us people,rappers and basketball players are the Heros and role models ,nothing against anyway that makes it big but how many have heard of Dr.Fuhrman's work. he should be recognized by our president for his contribution to good health.we need the entire country to listen to him.
Everything you mentioned except corn tortillas is great. The tortillas are made from GMO corn and pesticide laden, as well as the bad oils that thicken and clog arteries....I wouldn’t touch it
@@Livetoeat171 almost all food is genetically modified. Research fruit and vegetables and it’s all genetically modified. GMO isn’t as bad as people make it out.
I love how Dr. Fuhrman explains "true hunger". I was raised thinking that when my tummy rumbles is when I am hungry. Finally, I have experienced "true hunger" in my throat. I wish I had known this 40 years ago.
@@kimberlybrink1400 Same here. Everyone's hunger and fullness cues are not exactly the same. In eating disorder recovery I learned that emotional hunger strikes above the neck and physical hunger below it. That's really helped me. It will be different for others!
Dr. Fuhrman is a man of EXCELLENCE. That dawned on me as I watched him speak. Everything he does, the knowledge he dispenses, even how he looks and dresses...everything ... bespeaks of a person who believes in excellence and lives it. The absolute best book I’ve ever read on fasting was written by him. I have hundreds of books, several on fasting, but his is the definitive book I pick up whenever I do a water fast. I’m toying with the idea of doing the Nutritarian diet. My concern is that it may be too restrictive for me, which is why (taste-wise) i chose Dr. McDougal’s high starch, low fat lifestyle a few years ago. I only stuck with it about 4-5 months. Not sure why I quit, because I liked it. In my heart of hearts, I believe the Nutritarian diet is probably the best one for overall health.
Wonderful content. Thank you so much for interviewing one of my favorite whole-food plant-based doctors. I read his book, Eat to Live, and lost and kept off 35 lbs. because of his guidance. I’ll be forever grateful! Love your channel, by the way!
I am following Dr. Fuhrman. Evertime i play his speaches or his lectures i learn something new. I've played some 2 times or more and take notes. I keep learning and the notes show it! This is new and excting for me. And I'm just getting started. So thank you!
Wow! I have read two of Dr. Fuhrman’s books and have the Eat To Live Cookbook, but I learned SO much from this interview. (I want to register and take notes.) Thank you! I have been vegetarian for over 30 years. I gave up sugar at the same time. Gradually I began to give up the foods that I noticed weren’t making me feel as good as the others such as wheat and dairy. Bottom line is I feel GREAT when I eat a lot of low starch vegetables! I mean SUPER CHARGED like Popeye and his spinach! Grains and starchy veggies tend to make me feel more sluggish and slow so I eat less of them. It took me a while to wrap my head around oil free. It was a big paradigm shift. But you know, I DO feel the difference. It’s subtle but my blood feels “cleaner.” I am still learning and I need community because I don’t have ANY friends who eat this way so I’m grateful for the inspiration and ideas your channel provides.
Not really. You can't get enough calories. You need starches nuts and beans then add a little green vegetable, not the other way round. come 65 these plant based doctors start loosing to much muscle. They are calorically deficient and therefore protein deficient.
@@DMMeow Ha ha ha have who has ever heard that a person was diagnosed with protein deficiency ... you say ??? call me a person in this world. Most of them have way too much protein.
Really needed to hear the bit around minute 15, I've been struggling with low energy and being quite "hangry" as I work towards changing my diet for the better. This has given me the motivation to continue and not backslide.
What a true hero. Always helping others and bringing logical thinking to the table. Eating to live and vegan for 6 years now. This guy is actually making a difference, these are the true celebrities.
New subscriber! Dr Fuhrman's book, "Eat To Live" has changed my life. I was sort of doing mostly plant-based for 6 years but still struggling with weight loss. Though still working on it, it's much easier and I've lost the sugar cravings. Thanks for bringing us this video.
It's so important what he's pointing out here about detoxification. People try to eat healthy, feel horrible at day 3 and quit, saying I tried it and I felt terrible. They would do better to know from the outset and be prepared.
Wow Fast Food Genocide has to be a must read for me as someone who was raised in an urban neighborhood with Puerto-Rican parents doing the best they could my only vegetable was ketchup and once in awhile iceburg lettuce and a can of corn..when I visited Puerto Rico I discovered the taste of fresh fruits like guava, pineapple,tamarind and lots of mangoes! I ate root vegetables like yucca, taro and plantains and Floridian avocados.. came back here but it wasn't until things got better and educated myself that things got better, I was lucky and definitely grateful
PR has alot of healthy foods like plantains and green bananas, and lots of fruits. Yuca, on the other hand, is not so great in terms of micronutrients (cassava is very poor nutritionally). I still eat it sometimes, as it's good for just getting raw caloric energy, and a bit of potassium, but otherwise I think a potato is better. I put tamarind pulp in smoothies all the time. Good stuff. As long as you stay away from fruit juices, fruits are good to eat.
Dillon, I am new to your channel and just started, about 3 weeks ago in earnest, a plant based diet. I didn't want to overwhelm myself with data and was interested in the Fuhrman book but got started reading the Starch Solution by MacDougall. I do a lot of of what Fuhrman says and about 3/4's of what MacDougall says. I want to thank you for sharing this, it has been a huge help! Also to chime in with another comment below, you are an excellent interviewer. Thank you so, so much for having this great channel and fascinating and fun information. I am a new subscriber and relate very well to everything you've presented so far. You are brilliant! :-)
Yeah, thank you Dillon for conducting such an awesome and informative interview with Dr. Joel Fuhrman...and "go head" Dr. Fuhrman for all of that great information...i've enjoyed watching your seminar on PBS --- Thank you for your passion and enthusiasm centered around healthy eating!😊
Hi,yes I have to comment to this video again. I can't stop,I watch it over and over and over again. For example what he says about oils "that are absorbing the bloodstream very very rapidly and when foods are absorbed very rapidly basically they make crazy the body's hormones !!! I felt this many times eating oils !!! Really,really good interview ! Well your World,I would like to see pictures of you before and after,please ! Thank you.
Thanks for this interview. I ❤️ Dr Fuhrman, he is the best advertisement for his program, glowing and healthy. I think he has it right, bean, greens and nuts/seeds make all the difference. I can’t lose weight eating to much starch, the beans and nuts keep me full. Another point that I’ve never seen addressed by the starch people, they talk about starch based cultures, but don’t seem to add that all of those cultures include a lot of beans along with the rice, potatoes and bread. His GBOMBS and IF are helping me get to my ideal weight and health goals.
I agree! Starch and veggies fill me up volume-wise but do not satisfy my hunger at all! Eating the same volume of beans, veggies, and a bit of nuts definitely does. Beans are perfect they have starch and protein all in one :)
We need some more gardens in economically depressed northern urban cities. Whatever condemned buildings can be torn down or gardened around if there are lots. Or the common grounds in the apartment complexes. There's lots of people, plenty of run off from hard surfaces - roofs / parking lots, plenty of protection - brick walls. Plenty of waste for composting. We could cram in a bunch. Definitely can do it in little houses with little lots - share with the neighborhood. Empower the people to take care of themselves health wise and financially then deal with education and job problems.
Great interview. I'm going to flip the script, and start with a starch. Today I made a pot of mixed rices. Love including wild rice, then I add all sorts of wonderful vegis, greens, etc... yum!
Fuhrman's rap, to me, makes the most sense of any of the doctors who promote a plant-based diet ... because he explains the process of digestion and is not a total fanatic about what to eat. GBOMBS makes so much sense. He said around 6:20 that eating this way can reverse many early stage cancers. I'd love to know the source of that data and how that would work.
If it werent for Dr. Fuhrman I too would not be as healthy as I am today. I have been able to maintain 10 lbs under what I thought was my desirable weight without wavering. I'm happy, energetic and hiking the trails. Thank you Dr. Fuhrman for educating your audience. Thank you "Well Your World" for having him on your show! 😊
I so agree with teachings geared toward race biased diseases. Native Americans are taught that they are genetically prone to diabetes. They didn't HAVE diabetes prior to food commodity programs on reservations. When they were living traditionally they were disease free. Thank you for this video!!
I discovered your channel via Eat To Live... I’ve read all of the books and I think you’re right that the two diets are more similar. People like me who are insulin resistant should put less emphasis on starches and more on beans, but they’re not off the table. They’re just limited because of their higher glycemic index
i been doing a smashup of the nutritarian and Mc Dougall plan for almost 6 years nuts and seeds and some avo is a must for me and i love beans and,i eat 2-3 pounds of raw greens and veg combined every day .we absolutely need lots of micronutrients to avoid the pitfalls of a vegan diet of not getting enough minerals your hair , skin and immune system will thank you great interview Dillon
i blend some of the greens and its not just 2-3 pounds greens its including all other veg i eat , i also eat about 3 cups of different types of beans or lentils nuts ,seeds , fruit , wild rice...plenty of food
I just couldn't eat that many greens and feel good. The calorie density is too low. Maybe one pound. I can't eat nuts and seeds either. A diet that is high fat and very high greens doesn't seem to work for me
well there is many ways to eat a whole food plant based diet , you can experiment with what works for you this works for me , it helped me heal my body from cancer so it seems my Body likes what its getting and i am thriving
if we could have a set of twins and everything was equal between them except one ate furhman and the other ate mcdougall, the furhman twin body would be slightly healthier and live 7 months longer while the mcdougall twin body would enjoy eating a little more as a pastime-slightly. both would live 13 to 14 years longer than a triplet eating moderate amounts of animal products, all else being equal. this is my guess...
Sounds close enough to me though I’m sure Fuhrman would disagree. I think Dr. Lisle would agree with you too. These docs don’t act like it, but I’d say they agree on just about everything.
I really like his approach of lower carbs, higher fat. I feel a lot more satisfied and almost no hunger. Very nutrient dense! What's not to love? And, my blood sugars stay in normal range by eating this way. 🙂🌱
I'd love to hear Dr. Fuhrman and Dr. McDougall sit down together and debate this! While this sounds great, I've been eating high carb for almost 7 years and feel great. I understand that Dr. Fuhrman means "whole nuts" not peanut butter. I'm so glad you interviewed Dr. Fuhrman - he one healthy man - former figure skater with his sister!
they have debated a lot. I saved a you tube video where they are both on a panel and an audience member instigates a renewal. my conclusion is that it is like different sects of the same religion. I feel mcdougall is speaking to more people and will reach more whereas fuhrman will help the strict ones have more optimal health. but this is assuming stress of food is not part of it and rice eaters are eating brown rice on the other side. it gets pretty nit picky between them. bottom line is eat plantts, especially the super ones and don't eat animal products. ones health can always be more optimal and our differences will dictate who we follow more, but bottom line is the same.
I’d like to make a video about that soon. I think the two diets are so so close. He makes them sound a lot more different than I feel they are but anyway...
I find that the Fuhrman method of eating works the best for me. When I focus on starches I become sick and food obsessed. My body does much better with beans as the starch and lots of vegetables and fruits. I can't eat white potatoes as a main course. They just tip my blood sugar over and I'm falling apart in just a couple of hours. The more I study what Dr. Fuhrman is presenting the more I agree with his eating plan.
Beside that Dr. Fuhrmann's diet makes perfectly sense I highly respect his passion and dedication (which seems to go far beyond his own economical interests) to transform society .
Balance between carbs/starches (potatoes, grains, etc.) and protein/fats (legumes/nuts/seeds) seems to be the best option + lots of fruit and veggies of course
Just watched this right after watching the most recent interview with Dr. Fuhrman. Whatever anybody may say about him (which is so ridiculous), he knows his stuff. I wish I had a Dr. Fuhrman in my pocket for every time I’m faced with naysayers while I eat #wfpb. I feel confident in his recommendations. Thanks for sharing both interviews, Dillon! Loving your work!!! And work on getting a) your sauces to NZ or b) finding a way to ship :)
As a person who has a life long food addiction, overthinking every single thing about nutrients and certain food combinations makes me insane! I just know that if eat salad/greens before my meal of starch/legumes and non starchy vegetables, I feel better and lose weight. If I start eating nuts, avocadoes and seeds, maybe I might get carried away, so I omit those for now while I deal with my food addiction. White potatoes are the centre of my diet, because I've been doing the Spudfit challenge and I'm sensitive to too many sweet potatoes (they make me have diarrhea and cramping). If Andrew Taylor can reverse his depression and morbid obesity by eating only potatoes for a year (mostly white spuds and no green veg), I think I'll be fine. Me personally, I will do Maximum Weight Loss or Chef AJs Ultimate Weight Loss program style of eating until I get to my goal. I will reassess whether or not to transition to Dr. Fuhrman's approach or Dr. Gregor's Daily Dozen. Until then, I won't "Major In Minor Things" and I'll simplify simplify simplify. If you had an alcohol addiction and you were told that in order to be successful, you had to not only give up alcohol, but you had to take this and that supplememt, and eat this specific food combination to get the best results, along with a bunch of other specifics, you would be overwhelmed and get side tracked. I'm basically saying, the solution to reversing disease and imbalance is simpler than these very specific instructions.
Beautiful, check out the video I made after that discussing the differences between the two. I even used the phrase "majoring in minor things" like Dr. Lisle always says. Sounds like you have a wonderful process!!
Sounds like you're making it way too hard. Start with WFPB. Try to incorporate GBOMBS foods and maybe Dr. Greger's daily dozen when you can. You won't die if you miss something on a checklist one day. Your body has stores of fats, proteins, glycogen, minerals, and vitamins.... People are even able to undergo prolonged medically supervised water fasts because of those stores. Also, ANDI scores can maybe help you choose more nutritional bang for your buck. If you read doctor Fuhrman's books (free from any library and on hoopla) , he has all kinds of fun ways to incorporate nuts into dressings... so you're not overeating them and incorporating them in fun ways while maximizing nutrient absorption. Have fun and don't stress about it. Dr. Fuhrman and Dr. Greger have some great fun recipe ideas... All the best! ✌🙏
Jay Cee , I agree with most of what you said, but for me, I had to give up alcohol unless already eating or cooking my dinner. The reason is that I will always make a bad choice if I’m drinking before I actually begin eating. Somehow it silences the “ good decision” part of my brain!
So informative, Thank you! Maybe there should be a Senate hearing on the SAD, and how it's affecting so many aspects of our lives. Hearings on the high cost of pharmaceuticals miss the point. We wouldn't need pills if we ate right.
another thing that doesn't make sense to me here is that its not possible to be in a sustained state of energy deficiency. I guess what they mean instead is: stay at a low body fat percentage (breaking even at a low point) or: lower your energy expenditure, but that last one is like saying exercise is bad for your health...
I honestly think the science - and more importantly, research on the healthiest and longest living populations in the world - lean in favor of Dr. Fuhrman than McDougall (although the assessments that the 2 diets are closer than they contend is valid. Ultimately, distinguishing themselves and making their prescriptions “unique” is what helps them sell books...).
Do those long living people in world all buy dr fuhrman supplements? Fuhrman is biased because he is a big seller of supplements....as always do your own research and trust yourself
70% of the diet of Okinawa is sweet potatoes and another part is rice.That looks like a heavy starch based diet as opposed to Dr Fuhrmans nutrition diet.
If you really look into both Furhman & McDougall diets they are really very similar. Remember McDougall’s perfect dish is brown rice, beans and broccoli OR sweet potatoes and broccoli, it’s not just pure rice & potatoes. McDougall is just emphasizing that starch is our base and so is Furhman in a way (beans and grains are starch remember but his food pyramids base is Greens). I do like that Furhman is advocating for low glycemic index/load foods which is very smart and healthy recommendation. Furhman is just advocating for more wide varieties of nutrients like greens, nuts/seeds, raw onions, mushrooms etc which can only help you get more nutrients. My only advice would be to still watch you overall daily macronutrient content, especially fat. You really never want to go over 15% of your daily caloric intake in fat regardless the source. The one thing Furhman never says is a macronutrient level cutoff amount of daily fat, I’m curious to see his daily fat recommendation bc every video he has there seems to be no cap 🤔... aside from this his diet is A1+. Remember, if you eat quinoa for example or steel cut oats, they have a lot of natural fat, even a banana has fat. Foods have natural fat in them so you can naturally absorb the fat soluble vitamins/minerals, eating a couple nuts and seeds will/could help (especially vit E, omegas, DHA) but what’s the cutoff... my cutoff is around 15% total fat from total caloric intake for the day. If you really track your macros and look at the nutritional values of everything you eat you will see there’s not a lot of room for nuts and seeds anyways, so less fat is more. Not to mention, when you eat fatty carbs like some grains there’s really no room for extra added nuts/seed/avocados/coconut. Oil is deff deff definitely a no no (everyone agrees on this). I used to eat 2 kind bars a day 🤦♂️ that’s like a week worth of fat lol. This was before I tracked my macros, I understand that there’s fiber but why does my weight go up when I increase natural whole plant based fats like what Furhman suggests (not in the toilet). Does anyone know what Furhman’s suggested daily fat intake levels are... there must be a percentage?
It you want to eat more nuts, seeds, avocado, coconut you must counter that by eating less fatty grains and starches like rice and potatoes (they’re basically fatless starches/polysaccharides). Most other grains are fatty leaving no extra room for unregulated nuts and seeds. You must regulate and monitor your daily fat intake not just nuts, seeds, avocado, coconut... but everything you eat. If you want to eat nuts, seeds, avocado, coconut which you should you must counter by eating more lean grains. Don’t go over 15% of your daily caloric intake in fat. Mind you all of these doctors are advocating for the same thing... whole food plant/starch based with Low Fat no concentrates or processing. Furhman just seems to have no cap on fat 🧐 I just ate break-fast and it was raw grains cereal with frozen blueberries and soy milk. The grains had about 3 grams of fat and the soy milk had about 9 grams of fat, that’s 12 grams of fat... everything has fat, if I had added nuts and seeds it would be to fatty.... maybe almond milk would be better or another plant milk with lower fat if I wanted to add nuts and seeds. Hopefully you see where I’m getting at, fat adds up quick and it’s naturally in our plant based foods. Eat nuts, seeds, avocado, coconut sparingly - Allspeed!
The problem of eating too much starch comes due to the fact that people eat them in cooked form. How many people can eat raw potato and how much one can eat a cooked potato? One may be able to eat raw Yam potato, but not in a large quantity. In the same way, raw nuts and seed cannot be eaten in a very large quantity. As long as you try to eat food in Raw Form or close to Raw Form (such as lightly steamed) and without adding any unhealthy condiments, you will eat in proper quantity.
I like both. I am however newly transitioning off of the SAD diet (i was legit eating KFC every day 😰) and so far the Starch Solution is the best thing i have found in helping me transition into plant based eating and at home cooking. I figure i will stick with Starch Solution until i am really used to and thriving on a plant based diet and then eventually I'll do more nutritarian. I think jumping from SAD to nutritarian is a bit overwhelming but if you have been whole plant foods for a while its much more doable. Both have their place and work together i think. But I'm just an average person not a doctor.
Question: Why is it that older rural Chinese who ate a diet of 90% white rice lived long healthy lives mostly free of disease and almost no cancer or hear disease.
Can anyone explain how “true hunger“ is felt in the neck and throat (as Dr. Fuhrman says in this interview) and not in the stomach/intestines/belly? When I consulted with Dr. Klaper, I believe he said that “stomach hunger“ may have more to do with the microbiome as opposed to “true hunger” and indicated something similar regarding true hunger being felt in the neck and throat. They are the only two doctors who I’ve ever heard this concept from.
This is a common thread within the fasting community as well. I have fasted twice and I still am not absolutely sure I am fluent enough with this sensation, so I cannot answer well. But it seems to be consistent. I have heard it from Goldhamer, Klaper, Fuhrman...
I've done quite a bit of intermittent fasting (up to 24 hours) over the last 3 years, and also a 12 day fast at TrueNorth, and I'm also unsure of this sensation. During my 12 day fast my whole body felt hungry. lol
I know these comments are older, but I saw an interview or talk by Dr. Fuhrman on TH-cam where he clarified the "true hunger in the throat". He said you begin salivating. It was a pretty simple explanation and easily understood. I know my dogs begin salivating / drooling if they see I have something yummy to eat. But if they've already been fed, they still show interest but they aren't drooling all over the darn place. ;) Fuhrman is implying it is the same in humans. We salivate when truly hungry.
While on a 14 day water fast I felt it in my throat and mouth. Watery mouth, I guess like I was going to eat something fabulous and my juices were flowing. Mind you I was studying up on new recipes to get ready for refeeding, lol.
Where does Dr. Fuhrman propose that lower income people could get the money needed to purchase less processed food that he cites in the nutritarian diet? Many poor folks live in areas without a grocery store; just convenience type stores. What are they to do?
You can do both at the same time...
In the Starch Solution by John McDougall the basis of the diet is
eating:
1. Half a plate of non-starchy vegetables.
2. Half a plate of starchy foods from tubers like potatoes and sweet
potatoes, from legumes and beans and/or from whole grains.
And fruit as dessert...eating nuts infrequently.
In Joel Fuhrman's nutritarian diet he recommends...
1. 2 pounds of vegetables, half cooked and half raw including greens and
mushrooms.
2. 1-2 cups of beans
And a variety of other foods in his GBOMBS - greens, beans, onions,
mushorooms, berries, nuts and seeds
Furhman's diet recommends
30%-60% of calories from vegetables (those vegetables can include sweet
potatoes)
10%-40% of calories from fruit
10%-40% of calories from beans and legumes
20% or less of calories from whole grains and/or potatoes.
10%-40% of calories from seeds, nuts and/or avocados.
So you could definitely follow a McDougall diet if you were following
Fuhrman's nutritarian diet because McDougall classifies beans and
legumes as a starch source. The only difference would be actively eating
nuts and seeds as at least 10% of calories instead of eating them
sporadically. To put that in context that's ensuring you eat around 7
walnuts a day on a 2,000 calorie diet.
eg. half a plate of non starchy vegetables including some greens, mushrooms and raw onion
10%-30% of calories from sweet potato
20%-40% of calories from beans and legumes
20% of calories from potatoes
fruit as dessert (10%-40% of calories) including some berries like blueberries or strawberries
10% of calories as nuts and seeds eg 7 whole walnuts a day.
Thanks for this break down!
I have lost over 45 pounds on Dr. Mcdougall's diet. Instead of berating a methodology of plant based eating, it may be good to have a better understanding of what the methodology is. I like nuts, and it's good to know I can include them in my diet. Dr. Mcdougall says if you want to lose weight faster, restrict fat more, and as you get to your ideal, add the nuts and seeds back in.
Why not eat a nutritarian starchivore diet. Oats with flax in the morning. Sweet potatoes. Tons of beans, greens, fruit, and a handful of unsalted walnuts. No need for a division. 🙏🏼🌱
I totally agree! This is what I eat too! Nice
I agree. I think however we should eat those greens!
You’re right. I do a little bit of both.
Those are ok I believe - it’s the white, processed starches he is against
Tirtzah-תרצה He said greens
Dr Fuhrman was the MD who started me on my WFPB journey. So admire his know-how, dedication & endless enthusiasm. What a hero!
Dillion, you're a great interviewer. Why? Because unlike a lot of interviews I see by others, you keep quiet and let the person your interviewing talk. You also don't sit there saying yea, yea, right, right the whole time which can be distracting when you're trying to take in what the guest is saying. Great interview. Thanks.
It’s no accident, thank you for noticing 😊
I concur!
Wendy M agreed! Thank you Dillon!
Yes, great interviewer. But if I were being interviewed I'd be nervous with the interviewer gazing at me with barely even blinking. I guess it isn't me, so it's fine. Dr.Fuhrman it seems is not easily unnerved.
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It’s actually a psychological technique which causes the person to over explain as they are getting no emotional feedback from the interviewer.
Job interviewers use it often in order to determine if the person actually understands what they are talking about.
I love dr fuhrman. Seriously the most logical and thorough doctor in the vegan/plant based community. I haven’t ever heard him say anything that I thought wasn’t 100% spot on. He has done his research and he works to get people healthy not just thin.
My daughter was diagnosed with Hodgkins Lymphoma two months ago. She has had 3 rounds of chemo. Two days ago she had a PET Scan. She was initially was stage 4. The report stated that her body had a complete Response to the first three rounds of chemo. They automatically attribute the vast resolution of her inflamed lymph nodes to the chemo drugs alone. Little did they know that my daughter has been on a plant based diet since the original diagnosis. She drinks at least 6 eight ounce glasses of cold pressed green vegetable juice. She also cut out her love of garbage processed food. She has few side effects because of the anti-toxic effect of the plant based diet. This shit works!!!!
First time I have heard a white physician acknowledge the health disparities impacting Black Americans. I wholeheartedly believe and agree with Dr. Fuhrman. As a registered nurse and Black American, I have always strived to eat nutritiously because I don’t believe our high rates of disease are genetically linked. Thank you Dr. Fuhrman for your incredible, life saving work and speaking the truth! ❤️❤️❤️
Same here!! I am so proud of him for expanding even further in his studies to help ALL humans:) I believe he truly cares about everyone’s health. We are all the same inside after all!!!
@@camisnyder3460 Yes, people are too tribal, we are all human. 💯
By the way, such diseases are due to poor nutrition why Africans do not have such diseases we eat real food from the soil from plants each and single day fresh fruits, plenty of green leafy veggies as a must on our daily meals, vegetables raw and cooked and we don't use oils in our food.
Yes, yes and yes!!
Thank you, L F, for your comments. I was going to write essentially the same thing! Black American, retired 76yo who grew up in the Jim Crow south. Even now we still have to deal with the biases of some physicians who too often reluctantly treat Black patients, resulting in inferior health care. I find myself seeking solutions for my own medical issues, and wonder about the care of those who lack some of the knowledge I have. I thank Dr. Fuhrman for sharing his knowledge and wisdom with all of us!
I love the starch solution, I lost weight without being hungry but i could never understand why my depression and agoraphobia were not improving , meds weren't working etc... I started to put fat back into my diet with avocados and nuts...my mood improved immediately . I do believe we need some fats and i think the starch solution is a little restrictive on fats if you are prone to mood disorders. I think the nutritarian is the best way to go, even take a bit from both diets. The starch solution is definitely simpler and easier if you're a busy person. Nutritarian diet is a little more complex but definitely the more superior when it comes to getting every nutrient in nutrient. so my take is starch solution good for weight loss but not good for people with mood disorders. Nutritarian diet has it all but more time consuming.
Dr. Fuhrman's Nutritarian lifestyle just makes the most sense, flood your body with the most anti-disease phytonutrients and avoid the processed junk! I'm applying to medical schools now and Dr. Fuhrman is one of my biggest role models for the kind of physician I want to be in the future :) Great interview!
Good for you bro!!
You're making the future look good
Don’t sell unnecessary supplements Check out dr Klaper and dr Gregor. Dr Milton Mills.
@@JnTmarie I follow them also, and I love their work (same idea with Dr. Fuhrman- Whole Food Plant Based diet). The thing is, we still need some supplementation, aka B12, DHA, in some cases Zinc, VitD. I agree with you though, most supps aren't necessary, but some are for us WFPB eaters!
@@JnTmarie outs
Dr. Fuhrman's advice makes so much sense. I feel wonderful since I started eating the Nutritarian method about 12 years ago. It's too bad his advice is criticized by those tied to the dairy and meat industry. It confuses people.
I’m 79 and follow much of this diet. I feel 40 and do not have a pain or any issue in my body. You are what you eat.
My vegetarian diet, is almost totally raw and I won’t eat anything that cannot be eaten, unless cooked. No meat. No fish. No trans fats and most definitely, no wheats or grains, or Pasta, etc. I feel wonderful and can outpace my son, who is nearly 50.
Why no grains?
The vegetarian diet will harm you because byproducts of animals are more dangerous that meat itself
You can technically eat fish raw 🤷🏿♀️
Dr. Fuhrman is so versed in the science, it is a slam dunk to choose nutritarian over starch based. If there was any question, there isn’t now.
Joel Fuhrman is 65 years old here. His skin isn't saggy, the fat on his cheek bones are not falling and he looks really healthy and great! I am listening to this guy for sure!
Yes he is extremely healthy and athletic.
He is 65 and looks 65.
I assure you he is doing a lot better than most 65 year olds. He has six pack abs and yes I have seen them.
I noticed the same thing! I never felt good on 'Starch Solution' or 'Forks Over Knives' - all those grains, carbs, cereals, potatoes, corn, bread, etc. I know that we need small amount of healthy omega 3 fats. We are not meant to eat zero-fat/low protein/high sugar starchy foods. The zero-fat doctors are aging so much faster than those who eat more greens than grains, etc. They look dramatically OLDER than Dr. Fuhrman. I like that Dr. Fuhrman leans more toward raw foods too, and diet strong in phytonutrients and anti-cancer/anti-heart/diabetes benefits.
lol
I tried both, and both worked for me so now I combine them with one day having a nutritarian breakfast and dinner and a high carb lunch and then the next day a high carb breakfast and dinner and a nutritarian lunch. But I don't have all three meals just one approach on the same day. It works really well for me, stacks of energy, weight down, skin tightening, hormones feeling more balanced etc.I think I'm doing it right [for me] as when it comes down to it they're BOTH right and you just have to work out how to make it work best for you as we're all individuals. There are no 'wrong answers'! The only 'common denominator' I stick to is being WFPB.
That is great. Very sound regimen and sound advice. Thank you!
You can't say something, like this, 'worked', until you have been doing it for 10 years....we are not just talking about weightloss or performance, but the LONG TERM effects...be on Nutritarian for 20 years, then reassess and continue...that's how it's done, not just short term (2-3 years is still short term), life style, life-long, then you get the benefits!!...Why it's important to have kids do it!!! can you imagine if you were Nutritarian since birth!! I personally would have been an Olympic runner, had I known
T. L. Chiv
T. L. Chivz , would you give an example of those two days meals? Sounds like a good plan to me- thanks!
Don't conflate being tolerant with what's best. It makes sense to eat some starchy veggies now and then, especially if you feel like you need them. But sweet potatoes, while quite delicious - and they go great with steamed greens, by the way - aren't nearly as nutritions as kale or mushrooms or onions. We need to understand micronutrient density and understand why that's the measure of the healhfullness of our diet and our likely longevity. There's no way a baked potato is as healthy as a large raw salad with a dressing made from fruit, nuts or seeds, and vinegar. A large salad with some baked potato put in is way better than a baked potato with a small salad. We need to know which direction to push. What the base of the diet should be.
Thanks, Dillon, for doing another informative interview and asking such great questions. Thanks to Dr. Fuhrman for granting the interview and sharing his incredible wealth of information.
Thank you! Yes it was awesome that he said yes.
Thank you so much for bringing up the history and current situation of food deserts in the inner cities! I appreciate his genuine concern for the health of lower income Black Americans. I love that he didn't allow the establishment to convince him that we don't care about what we eat. He clearly sees people as people and knew better. Just subscribed
Yes! Yes! Yes!!! He speaks the truth and I hope he opens more eyes to what is really going on with inner city and targeted living areas!!!!! Finally, a Dr. that whole heartedly is telling the truth in all aspects.
Wow wow! He speaks the truth no matter what race. He has a passion for speaking health to everyone.
Deborah Richie that is true. I am just saying personally, I have NEVER heard ANY DOCTOR point out the extreme obvious of lower income black Americans targeted by the fast food and low nutritional lunches in the schools. You can in fact, find case studies that prove this to be true.
Dr. Fuhrman always makes so much sense. I tell people I'm a wanna be nutritarian, but I'm getting there. Thanks for this interview.
Thanks sounds good. On most days I take a large salad to work that I eat for both breakfast and lunch with many components including: kale, spinach, cilantro, shrooms, red onion, tomato, peppers, beans & chia or hemp seeds, with a homemade sunflower seed or nut based dressing. I need to completely cut out the sugar that I eat too often in the evenings. I'm still slowly losing weight though.
Black, red, and brown sprouted rice is not intact grain right? It's just something I already have prepared. OK, I get plenty of greens, veggies, legumes & seeds, but need more intact grains, berries & other fruit rather than too much Ezekiel bread, corn tortillas, chocolate & other processed stuff in the evenings. Thanks for the inspiration.
As long as we eat the whole food plant base diet we are helping the planet, animals, and our health.
Yes! Definitely agree!
We must demand more corporate responsibility for the damage they inflict on society!
u vegan?
We could go totally insane and start some permaculture gardening and really help everything / everyone especially ourselves.
what is going on with us people,rappers and basketball players are the Heros and role models ,nothing against anyway that makes it big but how many have heard of Dr.Fuhrman's work.
he should be recognized by our president for his contribution to good health.we need the entire country
to listen to him.
Organic broccoli, beans, chili peppers, corn tortilla, garlic, green leafy vegetables, mushrooms, onions, sweet fruit, whole grain _AND_ *_POTATO_* lover here!
Me too!
@@WellYourWorld me too
Everything you mentioned except corn tortillas is great. The tortillas are made from GMO corn and pesticide laden, as well as the bad oils that thicken and clog arteries....I wouldn’t touch it
@@Livetoeat171 almost all food is genetically modified. Research fruit and vegetables and it’s all genetically modified. GMO isn’t as bad as people make it out.
Corn tortillas and beans 🤤 😋
I love how Dr. Fuhrman explains "true hunger". I was raised thinking that when my tummy rumbles is when I am hungry. Finally, I have experienced "true hunger" in my throat. I wish I had known this 40 years ago.
Oh well, now you know! ✊️
@@WellYourWorld I base hunger on a rumbling tummy, not throat. I just don't buy that. Not overweight, never have been. Listen to your body!
Douglas nah, just common sense.
@@kimberlybrink1400 Same here. Everyone's hunger and fullness cues are not exactly the same. In eating disorder recovery I learned that emotional hunger strikes above the neck and physical hunger below it. That's really helped me. It will be different for others!
Dr. Fuhrman is a man of EXCELLENCE. That dawned on me as I watched him speak. Everything he does, the knowledge he dispenses, even how he looks and dresses...everything ... bespeaks of a person who believes in excellence and lives it. The absolute best book I’ve ever read on fasting was written by him. I have hundreds of books, several on fasting, but his is the definitive book I pick up whenever I do a water fast. I’m toying with the idea of doing the Nutritarian diet. My concern is that it may be too restrictive for me, which is why (taste-wise) i chose Dr. McDougal’s high starch, low fat lifestyle a few years ago. I only stuck with it about 4-5 months. Not sure why I quit, because I liked it. In my heart of hearts, I believe the Nutritarian diet is probably the best one for overall health.
Wonderful content. Thank you so much for interviewing one of my favorite whole-food plant-based doctors. I read his book, Eat to Live, and lost and kept off 35 lbs. because of his guidance. I’ll be forever grateful! Love your channel, by the way!
I am following Dr. Fuhrman. Evertime i play his speaches or his lectures i learn something new. I've played some 2 times or more and take notes. I keep learning and the notes show it! This is new and excting for me. And I'm just getting started. So thank you!
Wow! I have read two of Dr. Fuhrman’s books and have the Eat To Live Cookbook, but I learned SO much from this interview. (I want to register and take notes.) Thank you! I have been vegetarian for over 30 years. I gave up sugar at the same time. Gradually I began to give up the foods that I noticed weren’t making me feel as good as the others such as wheat and dairy. Bottom line is I feel GREAT when I eat a lot of low starch vegetables! I mean SUPER CHARGED like Popeye and his spinach! Grains and starchy veggies tend to make me feel more sluggish and slow so I eat less of them. It took me a while to wrap my head around oil free. It was a big paradigm shift. But you know, I DO feel the difference. It’s subtle but my blood feels “cleaner.” I am still learning and I need community because I don’t have ANY friends who eat this way so I’m grateful for the inspiration and ideas your channel provides.
In all my years studying Nutrition, this sounds like the most perfect way for humans to eat.
Not really. You can't get enough calories. You need starches nuts and beans then add a little green vegetable, not the other way round. come 65 these plant based doctors start loosing to much muscle. They are calorically deficient and therefore protein deficient.
@@TB1M1 idk he doesn't look protein deficient to me
@@TB1M1 not enough calories? What world you living in mate?
@@DMMeow
Ha ha ha have who has ever heard that a person was diagnosed with protein deficiency ... you say ??? call me a person in this world. Most of them have way too much protein.
@@TB1M1
No you need a Lot of greens 1❗
Really needed to hear the bit around minute 15, I've been struggling with low energy and being quite "hangry" as I work towards changing my diet for the better. This has given me the motivation to continue and not backslide.
Makes me happy to hear that. Stick with it.
What a true hero. Always helping others and bringing logical thinking to the table. Eating to live and vegan for 6 years now. This guy is actually making a difference, these are the true celebrities.
You are a GREAT interviewer. You ask good questions and then you reallyLISTEN! Thank you.
Furhman is a triumph . Wow. Love to listen to him
I’ve enjoyed him a lot! Thank you!
New subscriber! Dr Fuhrman's book, "Eat To Live" has changed my life. I was sort of doing mostly plant-based for 6 years but still struggling with weight loss. Though still working on it, it's much easier and I've lost the sugar cravings. Thanks for bringing us this video.
Thanks for being here! I appreciate the support!
Love Dr. Joel Fuhrman interviews and will definitely be watching this soon, glad this popped up on my home screen and I’ll subscribe as well
Thank you! Hope you enjoy it!
It's so important what he's pointing out here about detoxification. People try to eat healthy, feel horrible at day 3 and quit, saying I tried it and I felt terrible. They would do better to know from the outset and be prepared.
Wow Fast Food Genocide has to be a must read for me as someone who was raised in an urban neighborhood with Puerto-Rican parents doing the best they could my only vegetable was ketchup and once in awhile iceburg lettuce and a can of corn..when I visited Puerto Rico I discovered the taste of fresh fruits like guava, pineapple,tamarind and lots of mangoes! I ate root vegetables like yucca, taro and plantains and Floridian avocados.. came back here but it wasn't until things got better and educated myself that things got better, I was lucky and definitely grateful
Beautiful! It is so nice when good food opens your eyes! Keep it up.
PR has alot of healthy foods like plantains and green bananas, and lots of fruits. Yuca, on the other hand, is not so great in terms of micronutrients (cassava is very poor nutritionally). I still eat it sometimes, as it's good for just getting raw caloric energy, and a bit of potassium, but otherwise I think a potato is better.
I put tamarind pulp in smoothies all the time. Good stuff. As long as you stay away from fruit juices, fruits are good to eat.
This is the BEST interview I have seen of this AMAZING physician! THANK YOU!
my interest was in how food affects intelligence,depression,and creativity....this was excellent. thank you.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Food IS the issue....ultimately. Finally a doctor reveals the truth.
Dillon, I am new to your channel and just started, about 3 weeks ago in earnest, a plant based diet. I didn't want to overwhelm myself with data and was interested in the Fuhrman book but got started reading the Starch Solution by MacDougall. I do a lot of of what Fuhrman says and about 3/4's of what MacDougall says. I want to thank you for sharing this, it has been a huge help! Also to chime in with another comment below, you are an excellent interviewer. Thank you so, so much for having this great channel and fascinating and fun information. I am a new subscriber and relate very well to everything you've presented so far. You are brilliant! :-)
I have listened to Dr fuhrmam before on TH-cam so I'm impressed you got an interview with him.
Ya it was a lot of fun!
Yeah, thank you Dillon for conducting such an awesome and informative interview with Dr. Joel Fuhrman...and "go head" Dr. Fuhrman for all of that great information...i've enjoyed watching your seminar on PBS --- Thank you for your passion and enthusiasm centered around healthy eating!😊
This guy sure knows his stuff, he's the best!!!
Thanks for doing it Dillon, This video is really valuable to me. I admire your attitude and clean flow of information especially in this video.
Hi,yes I have to comment to this video again. I can't stop,I watch it over and over and over again. For example what he says about oils "that are absorbing the bloodstream very very rapidly and when foods are absorbed very rapidly basically they make crazy the body's hormones !!! I felt this many times eating oils !!! Really,really good interview ! Well your World,I would like to see pictures of you before and after,please ! Thank you.
My very first video shows some before and after. I don't really want to be that youtuber that shows my body though...
I just watched it. Thank you and funny LOL. Regarding the pictures,this is what I can say PLUMED .........and not PLUMED......
This is a really fantastic interview.
You have a great interviewing style
Thanks for this interview. I ❤️ Dr Fuhrman, he is the best advertisement for his program, glowing and healthy. I think he has it right, bean, greens and nuts/seeds make all the difference. I can’t lose weight eating to much starch, the beans and nuts keep me full. Another point that I’ve never seen addressed by the starch people, they talk about starch based cultures, but don’t seem to add that all of those cultures include a lot of beans along with the rice, potatoes and bread. His GBOMBS and IF are helping me get to my ideal weight and health goals.
Thank you for sharing!
I agree! Starch and veggies fill me up volume-wise but do not satisfy my hunger at all! Eating the same volume of beans, veggies, and a bit of nuts definitely does. Beans are perfect they have starch and protein all in one :)
I’d love to hear Dr Fuhrmans take on how to eat nutritarian with IBS issues. Specifically on how to go about a low FODMAP diet.
Brilliant Video! Thank you Dillon for providing such excellent interviews for us all!
Thank you for the support!
Yes, thank you for your work. My heart and my mind goes out to the world. We must do better and thank you for all you do. ❤❤❤
Love Dr Fuhrman and mccdougall, changed my life.
We need some more gardens in economically depressed northern urban cities. Whatever condemned buildings can be torn down or gardened around if there are lots. Or the common grounds in the apartment complexes. There's lots of people, plenty of run off from hard surfaces - roofs / parking lots, plenty of protection - brick walls. Plenty of waste for composting. We could cram in a bunch. Definitely can do it in little houses with little lots - share with the neighborhood. Empower the people to take care of themselves health wise and financially then deal with education and job problems.
Great interview. I'm going to flip the script, and start with a starch. Today I made a pot of mixed rices. Love including wild rice, then I add all sorts of wonderful vegis, greens, etc... yum!
Fuhrman's rap, to me, makes the most sense of any of the doctors who promote a plant-based diet ... because he explains the process of digestion and is not a total fanatic about what to eat. GBOMBS makes so much sense.
He said around 6:20 that eating this way can reverse many early stage cancers. I'd love to know the source of that data and how that would work.
If it werent for Dr. Fuhrman I too would not be as healthy as I am today. I have been able to maintain 10 lbs under what I thought was my desirable weight without wavering. I'm happy, energetic and hiking the trails. Thank you Dr. Fuhrman for educating your audience. Thank you "Well Your World" for having him on your show! 😊
Fantastic video! Dr. Fuhruman is brilliant. You are a giant, by the way, Dillon.
I so agree with teachings geared toward race biased diseases. Native Americans are taught that they are genetically prone to diabetes. They didn't HAVE diabetes prior to food commodity programs on reservations. When they were living traditionally they were disease free.
Thank you for this video!!
Great video and great info. Thank you and please thank Dr Fuhrman.
EXCELLENT EXCELLENT questions and interview. Thank you!!!
Thank you, Dr. Fuhrman, for sharing your knowledge about nutrition, and for encouraging us all towards better health!
I discovered your channel via Eat To Live... I’ve read all of the books and I think you’re right that the two diets are more similar. People like me who are insulin resistant should put less emphasis on starches and more on beans, but they’re not off the table. They’re just limited because of their higher glycemic index
Both of you are gems. Thanks so much.
Thank you!
I've lost 62 pounds since July 9, 2018 doing th Eat To Live. Still have a few pounds to go but it's a lifestyle I'll lbe able to live with.
Wonderful!
As of February 8th, I've now lost 71 pounds. Love eating healthy.
Any progress updates? Inspiring story!
Dr. Furhman is great
Dr F really explains things fully yet very easy to understand!
This man is my hero
Take the best of both…I lean towards Fuhrman…nutrition excellence
My Personal Doctor.....he doesn't let me slide, but we work to understand why I try to....it works....
i been doing a smashup of the nutritarian and Mc Dougall plan for almost 6 years
nuts and seeds and some avo is a must for me and i love beans and,i eat 2-3 pounds of raw greens and veg combined every day .we absolutely need lots of micronutrients to avoid the pitfalls of a vegan diet of not getting enough minerals
your hair , skin and immune system will thank you
great interview Dillon
I think your way is the best way, and the most reasonable to stay true to. Thanks for the support.
How do you eat 2-3 pounds of raw greens a day? I would become seriously underweight if I ate that much, unless I poured oil all over the greens.
i blend some of the greens and its not just 2-3 pounds greens its including all other veg i eat , i also eat about 3 cups of different types of beans or lentils
nuts ,seeds , fruit , wild rice...plenty of food
I just couldn't eat that many greens and feel good. The calorie density is too low. Maybe one pound. I can't eat nuts and seeds either. A diet that is high fat and very high greens doesn't seem to work for me
well there is many ways to eat a whole food plant based diet , you can experiment with what works for you
this works for me , it helped me heal my body from cancer
so it seems my Body likes what its getting and i am thriving
Terrific interview thanks to both of you ..
Thank you!
if we could have a set of twins and everything was equal between them except one ate furhman and the other ate mcdougall, the furhman twin body would be slightly healthier and live 7 months longer while the mcdougall twin body would enjoy eating a little more as a pastime-slightly. both would live 13 to 14 years longer than a triplet eating moderate amounts of animal products, all else being equal. this is my guess...
Sounds close enough to me though I’m sure Fuhrman would disagree. I think Dr. Lisle would agree with you too. These docs don’t act like it, but I’d say they agree on just about everything.
scott berger 😜😀😂
I really like his approach of lower carbs, higher fat. I feel a lot more satisfied and almost no hunger. Very nutrient dense! What's not to love? And, my blood sugars stay in normal range by eating this way. 🙂🌱
Yes!
I'd love to hear Dr. Fuhrman and Dr. McDougall sit down together and debate this! While this sounds great, I've been eating high carb for almost 7 years and feel great. I understand that Dr. Fuhrman means "whole nuts" not peanut butter. I'm so glad you interviewed Dr. Fuhrman - he one healthy man - former figure skater with his sister!
Ya both of them are pretty set in their ways. The two diets are generally practiced very similarly. I just need to eat more greens.
I went to his website and looked at his recipes - they are low in fat. I eat a ton of veggies, greens included. Yes, nuts need to be raw!
Fuhrmans is much more veggie heavy that McDougall. I get his point about nutritional values vs high starch-low nutrient.
they have debated a lot. I saved a you tube video where they are both on a panel and an audience member instigates a renewal. my conclusion is that it is like different sects of the same religion. I feel mcdougall is speaking to more people and will reach more whereas fuhrman will help the strict ones have more optimal health. but this is assuming stress of food is not part of it and rice eaters are eating brown rice on the other side. it gets pretty nit picky between them. bottom line is eat plantts, especially the super ones and don't eat animal products. ones health can always be more optimal and our differences will dictate who we follow more, but bottom line is the same.
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Fuhrman and McDougall already were in a debate it’s on TH-cam few years back.
What a great interview, clear & easy to innerstand.
Great interview Dillon. Would like to hear your thoughts on what he said.
I’d like to make a video about that soon. I think the two diets are so so close. He makes them sound a lot more different than I feel they are but anyway...
I find that the Fuhrman method of eating works the best for me. When I focus on starches I become sick and food obsessed. My body does much better with beans as the starch and lots of vegetables and fruits. I can't eat white potatoes as a main course. They just tip my blood sugar over and I'm falling apart in just a couple of hours. The more I study what Dr. Fuhrman is presenting the more I agree with his eating plan.
Me too, just changed to beans as sole starch, felt better immediately
Hats 🎩 off!!! Amazing guy. This is what you have when your career choice is fueled by passion.
Thank you Dr.Fuhrman and Dillon for such an informative interview. The information is presented in a way to easily understand and very interesting.
Thank you!
Great interview! He is amazing!
Beside that Dr. Fuhrmann's diet makes perfectly sense I highly respect his passion and dedication (which seems to go far beyond his own economical interests) to transform society .
Exactly.
Excellent interview, very enlightening.
Thank you! 👏
Balance between carbs/starches (potatoes, grains, etc.) and protein/fats (legumes/nuts/seeds) seems to be the best option + lots of fruit and veggies of course
Thank you so much for this interview. I loved it!
Thank you!
Just watched this right after watching the most recent interview with Dr. Fuhrman. Whatever anybody may say about him (which is so ridiculous), he knows his stuff. I wish I had a Dr. Fuhrman in my pocket for every time I’m faced with naysayers while I eat #wfpb. I feel confident in his recommendations. Thanks for sharing both interviews, Dillon! Loving your work!!! And work on getting a) your sauces to NZ or b) finding a way to ship :)
Yes I promise I am working on that! Thank you Monica!
@@WellYourWorld thank YOU!
I combine both plus I closely follow everything Dr. Michael Greger puts out.
As a person who has a life long food addiction, overthinking every single thing about nutrients and certain food combinations makes me insane! I just know that if eat salad/greens before my meal of starch/legumes and non starchy vegetables, I feel better and lose weight. If I start eating nuts, avocadoes and seeds, maybe I might get carried away, so I omit those for now while I deal with my food addiction. White potatoes are the centre of my diet, because I've been doing the Spudfit challenge and I'm sensitive to too many sweet potatoes (they make me have diarrhea and cramping). If Andrew Taylor can reverse his depression and morbid obesity by eating only potatoes for a year (mostly white spuds and no green veg), I think I'll be fine.
Me personally, I will do Maximum Weight Loss or Chef AJs Ultimate Weight Loss program style of eating until I get to my goal. I will reassess whether or not to transition to Dr. Fuhrman's approach or Dr. Gregor's Daily Dozen. Until then, I won't "Major In Minor Things" and I'll simplify simplify simplify.
If you had an alcohol addiction and you were told that in order to be successful, you had to not only give up alcohol, but you had to take this and that supplememt, and eat this specific food combination to get the best results, along with a bunch of other specifics, you would be overwhelmed and get side tracked. I'm basically saying, the solution to reversing disease and imbalance is simpler than these very specific instructions.
Beautiful, check out the video I made after that discussing the differences between the two. I even used the phrase "majoring in minor things" like Dr. Lisle always says. Sounds like you have a wonderful process!!
Sounds like you're making it way too hard.
Start with WFPB.
Try to incorporate GBOMBS foods and maybe Dr. Greger's daily dozen when you can.
You won't die if you miss something on a checklist one day. Your body has stores of fats, proteins, glycogen, minerals, and vitamins....
People are even able to undergo prolonged medically supervised water fasts because of those stores.
Also, ANDI scores can maybe help you choose more nutritional bang for your buck.
If you read doctor Fuhrman's books (free from any library and on hoopla) , he has all kinds of fun ways to incorporate nuts into dressings... so you're not overeating them and incorporating them in fun ways while maximizing nutrient absorption.
Have fun and don't stress about it.
Dr. Fuhrman and Dr. Greger have some great fun recipe ideas...
All the best! ✌🙏
Jay Cee , I agree with most of what you said, but for me, I had to give up alcohol unless already eating or cooking my dinner. The reason is that I will always make a bad choice if I’m drinking before I actually begin eating. Somehow it silences the “ good decision” part of my brain!
I agree and keeping it simple is the most sustainable way.
So informative, Thank you! Maybe there should be a Senate hearing on the SAD, and how it's affecting so many aspects of our lives. Hearings on the high cost of pharmaceuticals miss the point. We wouldn't need pills if we ate right.
When you lose weight do the blood vessels that were formed when you gained weight disappear?
I was wondering that too.
another thing that doesn't make sense to me here is that its not possible to be in a sustained state of energy deficiency. I guess what they mean instead is: stay at a low body fat percentage (breaking even at a low point) or: lower your energy expenditure, but that last one is like saying exercise is bad for your health...
I honestly think the science - and more importantly, research on the healthiest and longest living populations in the world - lean in favor of Dr. Fuhrman than McDougall (although the assessments that the 2 diets are closer than they contend is valid. Ultimately, distinguishing themselves and making their prescriptions “unique” is what helps them sell books...).
Agreed
Except most of those cultures with longevity are eating potatoes, rice and/or beans
Do those long living people in world all buy dr fuhrman supplements? Fuhrman is biased because he is a big seller of supplements....as always do your own research and trust yourself
70% of the diet of Okinawa is sweet potatoes and another part is rice.That looks like a heavy starch based diet as opposed to Dr Fuhrmans nutrition diet.
If you really look into both Furhman & McDougall diets they are really very similar. Remember McDougall’s perfect dish is brown rice, beans and broccoli OR sweet potatoes and broccoli, it’s not just pure rice & potatoes. McDougall is just emphasizing that starch is our base and so is Furhman in a way (beans and grains are starch remember but his food pyramids base is Greens). I do like that Furhman is advocating for low glycemic index/load foods which is very smart and healthy recommendation. Furhman is just advocating for more wide varieties of nutrients like greens, nuts/seeds, raw onions, mushrooms etc which can only help you get more nutrients. My only advice would be to still watch you overall daily macronutrient content, especially fat. You really never want to go over 15% of your daily caloric intake in fat regardless the source. The one thing Furhman never says is a macronutrient level cutoff amount of daily fat, I’m curious to see his daily fat recommendation bc every video he has there seems to be no cap 🤔... aside from this his diet is A1+. Remember, if you eat quinoa for example or steel cut oats, they have a lot of natural fat, even a banana has fat. Foods have natural fat in them so you can naturally absorb the fat soluble vitamins/minerals, eating a couple nuts and seeds will/could help (especially vit E, omegas, DHA) but what’s the cutoff... my cutoff is around 15% total fat from total caloric intake for the day. If you really track your macros and look at the nutritional values of everything you eat you will see there’s not a lot of room for nuts and seeds anyways, so less fat is more. Not to mention, when you eat fatty carbs like some grains there’s really no room for extra added nuts/seed/avocados/coconut. Oil is deff deff definitely a no no (everyone agrees on this). I used to eat 2 kind bars a day 🤦♂️ that’s like a week worth of fat lol. This was before I tracked my macros, I understand that there’s fiber but why does my weight go up when I increase natural whole plant based fats like what Furhman suggests (not in the toilet). Does anyone know what Furhman’s suggested daily fat intake levels are... there must be a percentage?
It you want to eat more nuts, seeds, avocado, coconut you must counter that by eating less fatty grains and starches like rice and potatoes (they’re basically fatless starches/polysaccharides). Most other grains are fatty leaving no extra room for unregulated nuts and seeds. You must regulate and monitor your daily fat intake not just nuts, seeds, avocado, coconut... but everything you eat. If you want to eat nuts, seeds, avocado, coconut which you should you must counter by eating more lean grains. Don’t go over 15% of your daily caloric intake in fat. Mind you all of these doctors are advocating for the same thing... whole food plant/starch based with Low Fat no concentrates or processing. Furhman just seems to have no cap on fat 🧐
I just ate break-fast and it was raw grains cereal with frozen blueberries and soy milk. The grains had about 3 grams of fat and the soy milk had about 9 grams of fat, that’s 12 grams of fat... everything has fat, if I had added nuts and seeds it would be to fatty.... maybe almond milk would be better or another plant milk with lower fat if I wanted to add nuts and seeds. Hopefully you see where I’m getting at, fat adds up quick and it’s naturally in our plant based foods. Eat nuts, seeds, avocado, coconut sparingly - Allspeed!
Fuhrman is such a wealth of insightful information.
The problem of eating too much starch comes due to the fact that people eat them in cooked form. How many people can eat raw potato and how much one can eat a cooked potato? One may be able to eat raw Yam potato, but not in a large quantity. In the same way, raw nuts and seed cannot be eaten in a very large quantity. As long as you try to eat food in Raw Form or close to Raw Form (such as lightly steamed) and without adding any unhealthy condiments, you will eat in proper quantity.
Thank God for Dr.s like Dr. Furman that are proclaiming the truth about the SAD diet and the true diet!!!
I like both. I am however newly transitioning off of the SAD diet (i was legit eating KFC every day 😰) and so far the Starch Solution is the best thing i have found in helping me transition into plant based eating and at home cooking. I figure i will stick with Starch Solution until i am really used to and thriving on a plant based diet and then eventually I'll do more nutritarian. I think jumping from SAD to nutritarian is a bit overwhelming but if you have been whole plant foods for a while its much more doable. Both have their place and work together i think. But I'm just an average person not a doctor.
My story exactly
Question: Why is it that older rural Chinese who ate a diet of 90% white rice lived long healthy lives mostly free of disease and almost no cancer or hear disease.
It could be more about avoiding damaging foods than to seek out extra nutrition. I'm sure some extra nutrition helps but up to a point.
Can anyone explain how “true hunger“ is felt in the neck and throat (as Dr. Fuhrman says in this interview) and not in the stomach/intestines/belly? When I consulted with Dr. Klaper, I believe he said that “stomach hunger“ may have more to do with the microbiome as opposed to “true hunger” and indicated something similar regarding true hunger being felt in the neck and throat. They are the only two doctors who I’ve ever heard this concept from.
This is a common thread within the fasting community as well. I have fasted twice and I still am not absolutely sure I am fluent enough with this sensation, so I cannot answer well. But it seems to be consistent. I have heard it from Goldhamer, Klaper, Fuhrman...
I've done quite a bit of intermittent fasting (up to 24 hours) over the last 3 years, and also a 12 day fast at TrueNorth, and I'm also unsure of this sensation. During my 12 day fast my whole body felt hungry. lol
True Hunger is talked about a lot by Herbert Shelton and all those who follow the Natural Hygiene Method google it sure you will get more info
I know these comments are older, but I saw an interview or talk by Dr. Fuhrman on TH-cam where he clarified the "true hunger in the throat". He said you begin salivating. It was a pretty simple explanation and easily understood. I know my dogs begin salivating / drooling if they see I have something yummy to eat. But if they've already been fed, they still show interest but they aren't drooling all over the darn place. ;) Fuhrman is implying it is the same in humans. We salivate when truly hungry.
While on a 14 day water fast I felt it in my throat and mouth. Watery mouth, I guess like I was going to eat something fabulous and my juices were flowing. Mind you I was studying up on new recipes to get ready for refeeding, lol.
Great interview. Thanks Dillion!
Where does Dr. Fuhrman propose that lower income people could get the money needed to purchase less processed food that he cites in the nutritarian diet? Many poor folks live in areas without a grocery store; just convenience type stores. What are they to do?
If you are online now, sending this message, you can order food delivered to your door.
Thank you!! Eye opening, confirmation of some of my thoughts.
Some people criticize Dr. Fuhrman without understanding all the details of what he is saying.
I really wish schools would get more into this. But no. Pop tarts as a school breakfast. It's frightening.
Oh my I cannot imagine. I bought my lunch at school everyday growing up. The garbage I used to put in my body...
Do US schools REALLY sell pop tarts ?
LizzieDripping they’re not even sold...they’re given for free!