Achieving Longevity and Healing through Food | Dr. Joel Fuhrman | The Proof Podcast EP

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  • In an era when nutrition advice is abundant, yet chronic diseases continue to rise, Dr Joel Fuhrman offers a different perspective. Having coined the term “Nutritarian”, his work focuses not only on promoting health and longevity, but also healing through food. In this Episode #274, Dr Fuhrman joins me to delve into the nutritarian lifestyle and the radical potential it could hold for reversing chronic illnesses.
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    Dr Joel Fuhrman, M.D., a board-certified family physician and seven-time New York Times best-selling author, brings a distinct perspective to nutritional wellness. With over 30 years in the field, he specialises in preventing and reversing disease through nutritional methods. Serving as the President of the Nutritional Research Foundation and on the faculty of Northern Arizona University's Health Sciences division, Dr Fuhrman coined the term “Nutritarian” to describe a nutrient-dense eating style designed to combat diseases like cancer and extend lifespan. His work opens up a dialogue on nutritional choices and their potential impact on our health.
    We cover:
    00:00 - Introduction to Dr Joel Fuhrman and the Nutritarian Lifestyle
    02:43 - Overview of Dr Fuhrman's Micronutrient-rich Diet and Its Advantages
    09:32 - The Role of Fibre and Resistant Starch in Diet
    12:08 - Dr Fuhrman's Personal Introduction to Plant-based Eating
    23:06 - The Importance of Optimising Omega-3 Consumption
    28:27 - Understanding DHA and EPA: Do we need them
    33:58 - Blue Zones
    38:21 - The Role of Zinc in Diet and When to Think About Supplementation
    44:08 - A Detailed Examination of the Nutritarian Diet and Its Benefits
    52:53 - Oils: What do you need to know?
    58:47 - Comparing Plant-based Proteins to Animal Proteins
    1:05:36 - Aligning Protein Consumption with Exercise for Longevity
    1:15:23 - The Dietary Debate: Plant-sourced vs. Animal-sourced Low-Carb Diets
    1:19:26 - Addressing Autoimmune Conditions Via Diet
    1:22:55 - The Influence of Diet on Weight Reduction and Reversing Chronic Illnesses
    1:32:25 - The Challenge of Educating and Modifying Dietary Behaviours
    1:35:42 - Overweight and fat distribution
    1:41:14 - How Weight Reduction Can Be Revolutionary in Reversing Diabetes
    1:47:51 - The Link Between Sleep Patterns and Eating Schedule
    1:48:45 - Strategic Eating: Maximising Gains from Vegetables, Nuts, Seeds, and Soups
    1:54:37 - Underlining Collective Effort for a Healthier Society
    1:56:59 - Outro
    Connect with Dr Joel Fuhrman:
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    - Instagram: / joelfuhrmanmd
    - Facebook: / drfuhrman
    - Twitter/X: / drfuhrman
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  • @kathrynd8993
    @kathrynd8993 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I used to binge eat a year ago, but all those cravings have disappeared on a nutrient-dense diet. In fact, I don't crave any unhealthy foods anymore. And I have maintained a healthy weight with ease. It's taken a year and 6 months to get to reverse my food addiction. I will never go back. I totally agree with this episode. Thank you for the affirmation.

  • @juliemcdonald1245
    @juliemcdonald1245 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I tried Dr Fuhrman's way of eating back in 2003. It was the best I have ever felt. Sadly, I drifted back into poor eating because I live with a fast-food carnivore. Now I have diabetes (controlled with diet) and gall bladder trouble. That carnivore can fend for himself from now on because I'm going back to health. Thanks so much for calling my attention to this interview from your short on Adventist eating and how healthy they are. I needed this push and I'm grateful, Simon. Many blessings to you and yours.

    • @polibm6510
      @polibm6510 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What means "fast-food carnivore"?

    • @leslietylersmith430
      @leslietylersmith430 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@polibm6510I'm guessing it's likely to MacDonalds & other fast food meats (carnivore refers to eating meat😊)

    • @Mikathedog100
      @Mikathedog100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My grandfather, although not a Seventh Day Adventist, was raised as one, and continued to eat as he was taught his entire life. He always had a vegetable garden growing and always came back from the markets carrying large boxes of fruits and vegetables. He was also a raging alcoholic until his 70s, when he was diagnosed with prostate cancer, and the medication used for that (presumably morpheine) worked for him in replacing the alcohol. He lived to 96yo and died from the effects of a stroke while replacing my aunt's back steps. He didn't have a wrinkle on his face, and had most of his hair, and was always (as far back as I remember) very strong.
      I highly doubt he'd have lived that long had it not been for his diet.

    • @juliemcdonald1245
      @juliemcdonald1245 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@polibm6510 he eats meat and mainly fast food

    • @juliemcdonald1245
      @juliemcdonald1245 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@leslietylersmith430 exactly!

  • @dboyd1651
    @dboyd1651 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Dr. Fuhrman reminds me of my Biochemical professor. He is very knowledgeable, and he is very intelligent. His brain is so quick to deduce information through his research and learning. He becomes frustrated as he probably feels like he has been repeating himself for years. He probably can't understand people who have the information but still remain ignorant.

  • @valeriesclafani5087
    @valeriesclafani5087 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Thank you Simon. I initially did not want to like Dr. Furhman’s ETL plan because I wanted what I wanted. However, there was never one minute where I ever doubted his knowledge or sincerity!!! I have now been eating ETL for two out of my 10 WFPB years with the best results!!!!
    I love Dr. Fuhrman and am so grateful to him.
    I also love the way you respectfully bring the other side of a question to the table. You are never offensive, so well prepared and sincere as well. Thank you for all you do!!

  • @darlenedevegan8370
    @darlenedevegan8370 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    One of my favorite daily things to do while I'm doing housework is listen to podcasts and lectures on health and diet and exercise. Of all the doctors and information spreaders, I still believe Dr Joel fuhrman is the king of nutrition. I do disagree with him a little bit on a small amount of organic oil daily is okay, I guess it's from being Italian lol, but other than that I really agree with just about everything he has to say nutrition-wise. It's really just massive common sense.❤

    • @lf7065
      @lf7065 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I do and feel the same! 🙂👍🏻

  • @MariusMitrache
    @MariusMitrache 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    I remember a few years back when the low fat side of the vegan influencers and doctors were vilifying dr.Furhman for his higer fat approach. How the tides have shifted… He was on the right side of the nutrition spectrum all along.

    • @catherinekasmer9905
      @catherinekasmer9905 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I agree, with the caveat that his approach is probably lower in fat than the SAD diet.

  • @jpl0202
    @jpl0202 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Dr Joel F. is the best !! He is the Jack LaLane of Nutrition, way ahead of his time.

  • @vegrunner6688
    @vegrunner6688 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

    Dr. Fuhrman is like that high school teacher---NOT the warm fuzzy one you could always talk to, but the strict one who accepted no BS and demanded your best. There were icy vibes at the beginning of the interview, but, as always Simon, you did a masterful job of asking the right questions, getting clarification, and summarizing for your audience. I know some of the original power vegan docs have fallen out of favor, but I am glad you had him as a guest; I always learn something from him.

    • @Test-eb9bj
      @Test-eb9bj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Great analogy of his personality!

    • @14jojoba
      @14jojoba 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Right on.💯🎯

    • @jaysutliffe7094
      @jaysutliffe7094 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Keep in mind Dr. Fuhrman is still actively seeing patients almost daily. The majority of his patients are very sick and possibly near death and not just trying to lower cholesterol, balance blood sugar, or even trying to get larger muscles and a six pack…hence…laser focus on nutritional excellence!

    • @annemccarron2281
      @annemccarron2281 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Simon started out saying he didn't agree with everything Dr. Fhurman said. He's a physician who has been WFPB for 60 years. I don't know what Simon's background is, but I doubt he has this degree of education or experience. To make a comment like that given in the context Simon said it, could be a bit insulting. Dr. Fhurman said he has reviewed over 30,000 articles. That says a lot!

    • @annemccarron2281
      @annemccarron2281 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jaysutliffe7094Great way of looking at it.

  • @BirdieMcLovin
    @BirdieMcLovin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    I'm usually skeptical of no-oil plant-based diets, but Dr. Fuhrman's explanation makes sense to me. If the overall amount of calories per day is limited then added oil will start taking up too much of a portion of the diet while being low in nutrients. I get it!

    • @doddsalfa
      @doddsalfa 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Check out dr.Esselstyn you will not be skeptical

    • @fullyplantedlife3038
      @fullyplantedlife3038 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      It makes so much sense doesn't it. I think it is much easier to get fats from whole foods and it comes with fiber and nutrients. So getting PUFAS and MUFAS from whole foods is by far much more helpful than liquid oil whether that liquid oil is straight out of a bottle or from a processed food.
      Fuhrman doesn't get enough credit. He is incredibly thorough with his thinking on this and his research is extensive.

  • @char2304
    @char2304 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    This is the best interviews I've seen on Dr Furhman.
    It was nice to hear his voice less rushed.

    • @emilymayer5537
      @emilymayer5537 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes, he does tend to talk speedy. 😃

    • @lindajones4849
      @lindajones4849 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes, in the lectures in front of large audiences he is Abit hyper ( possibly just enthousiasm) and does speak very rapidly.

  • @IntuitiveCoachTheresa
    @IntuitiveCoachTheresa 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Dr. Fuhrman has always been, and still is, my favorite plant based doctor and expert. I love how he said in the beginning people need to make sure to eat a lot and eat satiating whole plant foods to succeed in this WOE. To that end, I used to love green smoothies, but they really did a number on my insulin levels when I made them with fruit. And they didn't sustain me. I recently starting putting 1-2 tsp of psyllium powder in them for the soluble fiber benefits and amazingly it totally transformed the smoothie experience for me, making me feel full for hours! This is a glorious revelation for me. And the soluble fiber is so important for hormone balance and liver detox. Win win win!

  • @993rizk
    @993rizk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    Never been so excited for a guest before. Love Fuhrman! May not agree with all his takes but the way he speaks about nutrition and healthy living motivates me to do better every day!

    • @Threebridgecastle
      @Threebridgecastle 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Absolutely love him too. He tells the truth. There are people out there that just don’t want to hear it because some people are looking for good news about their bad habits.

    • @natalieamore8195
      @natalieamore8195 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ❤ Shared

    • @kh485
      @kh485 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you enjoy the information enough to attempt the regimen. I’m Interested to hear your thoughts.

    • @993rizk
      @993rizk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kh485 Yes, but I wield WFPB + Nutritarian + SOS-free for placebo. They are not grounded in strong evidence at all. In other words, you do not need to be that pure at all in your diet. It's gospel essentially lol. And for me I like to hear it because it makes healthy eating sound much less boring and borders on magical because of all the possible mechanisms, newly discovered phytonutrients they all preach about etc.
      TL;DR: If you want healthy eating to be as sexy as possible, this is where it's at. But you don't actually need it for good health. I just know that even if there is this 200 calories per day where you can fill it up with whatever junk and not affect your health, I know I will over exceed it and it will tempt me to always crave junk.
      Why not go all in and make healthy eating magical? That's my take.

    • @annemccarron2281
      @annemccarron2281 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@kh485Absolutely! There are hundreds of TH-cam channels that agree with what he says. You have to listen to a lot of information & sort it out for yourself. However, the current, valid data based research certainly leans toward what Dr. Fhurman advocates.

  • @catherinekasmer9905
    @catherinekasmer9905 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Amazing interview. Dr. Fuhrman has an amazing knowledge of nutritional science. I found Eat to Live in the library 10 years ago and it radically transformed my life. I lost 60+ pounds, reversed high blood pressure, high cholesterol, pre-diabetes and mood issues. All the benefits have lasted! I have all his books and recommend them all- including the cookbooks. Honestly, they are a treasure trove of life enhancing information. Thank you, Dr. Fuhrman. What a good person. I’m 63 now and active as a runner. I feel this lifestyle enhances my creativity as a musician as well. It’s hard to explain- you have to experience it.

    • @Jeffs60
      @Jeffs60 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What he forgot to tell you is if you spend a lifetime eating too many plant foods you will have to spend more time chewing and chewing and this could wear out your TMJ prematurely and what type of doctor will fix that? Dr. Fuhrman, nope, a Dentist, nope, an ENT, nope, an Orthopedist, nope. You want to consume the most nutrient dense foods with the least amount of chewing. Remember these doctors are looking for repeat customers to keep you ill.

    • @freeian2
      @freeian2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Jeffs60
      Then propose the study of total TMJ replacement in nutritarians. Haven’t seen trends in TMJ degeneration from Fuhrman’s approach-also, orthos do not perform TMJ procedures. Nibble on.

    • @smilebot484
      @smilebot484 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Jeffs60 you can blend or chop with a food processor. it's true there can be a lot of chewing. there are work arounds

    • @smilebot484
      @smilebot484 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thanx for sharing

    • @Jeffs60
      @Jeffs60 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@freeian2 And how many years have you been doing a nutritarian diet for? I said if you spend a lifetime starting young. There is no such thing as a nutritarin diet it is a made up word and not accredited by anything except the salesman selling debunked books to the gullible. Fuhrman has a book in my library that said broccoli has more protein than steak, but this is 100% wrong in calories or grams, the rest of the book is all errors.

  • @richardthompson9029
    @richardthompson9029 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    Your podcast is, by far, the best source of health, fitness, and aging information on the net! Thank you, Simon.

    • @PhilosopherPrince
      @PhilosopherPrince 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The proof with Simon Hill is really good. But The Drive by Peter Attia is also a great podcast on the same topics. Highly recommend.

    • @dinomiles7999
      @dinomiles7999 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PhilosopherPrince Bryan Johnson, Blueprint.... Peter has no data ( proof )... AI will soon leave all these folks behind....See you in 2500.... Live forever..

    • @markumark1
      @markumark1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheProofWithSimonHill Hey Simon, Dr Furman recommends 250 mg of EPA DHA but Dr Harris recommends a thousand or 1,500 in order to bring levels up from four or five to eight. What are your thoughts on this?

    • @felicisimomalinao1981
      @felicisimomalinao1981 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have been taking 2 grams of fish oil for 2 years - its ok at 69 y-o male.@@markumark1

  • @barberlifts
    @barberlifts 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    So glad this conversation happened. Dr.Furhman's advice was what resonated with me the most when I first went vegan. I favoured his approach toward focusing on nutrient dense foods with particular attention to healthy fats and protein as apposed to the HCLF community which was popular at that time 😴

  • @Lilanandadasa
    @Lilanandadasa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dr. Fuhrman's insights are truly remarkable. His explanation of how higher protein intake for the sake of muscle growth and appearance can compromise longevity and overall health is the best I have ever encountered. His presentation on the subject is a masterpiece of nutritional and longevity advice, offering a compelling argument for prioritizing a balanced, health-focused approach over short-term aesthetic goals.

  • @eileenmi2935
    @eileenmi2935 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    So much to like about this episode. Simon is a skilled interviewer including asking tough questions without being rude, and being a good listener. Dr. Furhman seems so knowledgeable, with great communication and teaching skills. I especially liked that on some points he is willing to say “i don’t know” or “probably” and at other points he is certain and gives the specific research that backs up his views.

  • @robertmacgregor8438
    @robertmacgregor8438 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Joel Furhman is not greasy and frail looking at all. Very robust.

  • @MendeMaria-ej8bf
    @MendeMaria-ej8bf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I've been a vegetarian for most of my life for ethical reasons. Now I would like to optimize my plant-based diet hoping that I find a way to do so in the part of the world where I'm living. As a first step, I'm going to order Dr Fuhrman's book.

    • @kh485
      @kh485 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m interested to hear how you changed your routine.

  • @charismausa
    @charismausa 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Dr. Fuhrman,with your books you have changed the way used to see the food. My most recent cardio stress test on treadmill was excellent. I brought my heart rate to 148 with no problems, You saved my life.

  • @ellena.popova
    @ellena.popova 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I never comment but listening to many podcasts in a row I have to share this. If anyone haven’t read the book The Pleasure Trap: Mastering the Force that Undermines Health & Happiness by Alan Goldhamer and Douglas J. Lisle, I highly recommend. This book sums up all the issues of modern society: the overeating, the overindulging, the addictions, the dopamine depletion, etc. As always thank you, Simon, for another great episode 🤍

  • @ZmogusJaponija
    @ZmogusJaponija 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I am glad I finnaly found somebody who has more moderate approach towards recent hype (I'd say fueled mainly by P. Attia) of "max out protein (from any sources) and max out muscle mass, otherwise you will die".

  • @tsebosei1285
    @tsebosei1285 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The explanation about fat was really an eye opener

  • @raym8158
    @raym8158 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thanks Simon for interviewing Dr. Fuhrman! Dr. Fuhrman has put it all together. If you're attempting to maximize your healthspan, he's the guy to follow. And Simon, your channel is a great source of evidence based health, lifestyle, and nutritional information that's presented in detail and in a nuanced way.

  • @nickseccombe1357
    @nickseccombe1357 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Joel is the best, a real straight talker!

  • @karlis-9060
    @karlis-9060 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Thank you to Dr Fuhrman for educating about zinc.
    After going through a stressful few months that probably depleted my zinc levels, as I was feeling great before that, I had insomnia on and off for 2 years, that I thought was because of the stressful period still, I read that zinc is a risk nutrient and it clicked in my head that maybe it's actually my diet.
    I went to get tested, was diagnosed zinc deficient, and after a few weeks of taking a high dose of zinc, I was sleeping normally again.

  • @johnsmith-zf1fd
    @johnsmith-zf1fd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Soaking the nuts joke was great, one of the highlights of your podcast career so far

    • @annefitzgerald1744
      @annefitzgerald1744 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheProofWithSimonHill The interview with Drew was absolutely hilarious. I lost it!! 😂

    • @kiramiftari9486
      @kiramiftari9486 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DO YOU SOAK YOUR NUTS? 🤣
      @@TheProofWithSimonHill

  • @elizabethmadness5277
    @elizabethmadness5277 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr. Fuhrman is a wealth of knowledge that I have come to respect more and more. He is straight to the point and no nonsense.

  • @smallfootprint2961
    @smallfootprint2961 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My dinner tonight was a big bowl of broccoli. Hit the spot.

  • @lf7065
    @lf7065 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dr. Fuhrman is fantastic! My favorite plant based physician. 🙂💖

  • @pattihy
    @pattihy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great interview. Simon does a great job of asking the right questions and including them about the average person who doesn’t have excess to all the labs and things. And including doctors and researchers who have different points of view. I learn so much from that. Thank you Simon.

  • @mrpig6742
    @mrpig6742 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    His 6 week plan got rid of my fatty liver it is

  • @chefbob67
    @chefbob67 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    “I just use soapy water.”
    Didn’t see that one coming! Seems even a Simon was blindsided!😂

  • @jacque4697
    @jacque4697 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I was overweight, 200 lbs, in 2011 in spite of going to the gym and exercising. After I purchased his book and followed his diet and within 2 months my weight dropped to 150 lbs. It's been over 12 years and I'm now at 136 lbs. His diet really works! If you want to be slim, fit, and healthy, just follow his advice.

  • @kst157
    @kst157 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Brilliant interview - thank you both (!) - & Dr. Fuhrman sounds incredibly knowledgable & wise with astute recommendations & always with health protection / advancement / longevity based advice. 👍

    • @wizardatmath
      @wizardatmath 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't see the hype about this guy. He a priest of the industry.

  • @Gumbi1012
    @Gumbi1012 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Fuhrman has influenced my dietary choices a lot. I think he offers a very comprehensive dietary programme, although he does have his issues.
    I don't necessarily agree with some of the hyperbolic language he uses about some animal foods and oils, for example.
    I think he's certainly worth listening to having said all that. Thanks for the interview!

  • @LaurenKomishane
    @LaurenKomishane 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Thank you for another interesting and informative podcast Simon. Having worked with Whole Foods Market, I have followed Dr. Fuhrman for years, given his book placement/publicity in stores. His no-nonsense approach to nutrition is still revolutionary, and your interview style to clarify truth vs. myth gave listeners, as always, important information to consider. I thoroughly enjoyed this discussion.

    • @lululove6175
      @lululove6175 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Whole Foods is a joke everything on their salad bars…crap loaded with seed oils, crap ingredients.

  • @DavidDavis42
    @DavidDavis42 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Really enjoyed this podcast. Listened to it while driving yesterday.
    I hope you'll have Dr. Michael Greger on the show sometime. He has a new book coming out soon on aging.

    • @skippy6462
      @skippy6462 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That'll be great.

  • @rebeccaspellman
    @rebeccaspellman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I appreciate that you challenge the information and opinions of your guests, whether or not you agree with what they are saying. Also done in a way that is very respectful.

  • @LiveLeanHealth
    @LiveLeanHealth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Aww I love Dr Fuhrman. He was my first guest. So gracious ❤ great interview as always Simon. Love you man

  • @jimpatek6244
    @jimpatek6244 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Adding a comment that no one will read of course. But the one thing that is never addressed when it come to optimum protein intake is the degradation of muscle protein synthesis with age. This begins around age 30 as i understand it and from then on muscle protein synthesis efficiency reduces at a rate of 1 to 1.5 percent per year (ask AI or any qualified resistance exercise coach if you do not believe this). The point is that Dr. Fuhrman and all of the plant dominant podcasters do not suggest that the Stuart Phillips et al optimum 1.6 gm/kg body weight needs to be adjusted upwards for every year of age over 30 by 1 to 1.5%. I have followed Dr Fuhrman for years and consume his GBOMBS as an act of faith but the argument around protein is absurd if you want to have any muscle or strength at age 90. Dr Longo was more honest when he said older people must add more protein to their diet and that an IGF-1 of up to 150 was okay. I now try to consume an age adjusted 2.4 gms protein/kg lean body mass or 135 gms protein per day. My fasting IGF-1 is 125. So, lets help the aging community get this one right. No more 0.8 gms protein/kg body weight.

    • @dancingonhands
      @dancingonhands หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, this is excellent!!🙌🏼 You might want to listen to Dr. Fuhrman’s most recent podcast with his daughter Jenna where they discuss this very issue … that older folks need more protein. I’m upping my protein as well! Greens, beans, nuts and seeds, whole grains, tofu, hummus and soy milk. According to your theory and calculations I would need 100 gms/day. Interesting!! Thank you!🙏🏻❤️

  • @HappyGirl-ii6zf
    @HappyGirl-ii6zf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Wow! This presentation is probably one of the best I've watched in a very long time! Kudos to both of you! It really helped me to understand better as to what I've tried (to be healthy) and what I need to do now with my overall dietary intake at age 73 (and battling some serious issues)! Well done, gentlemen, well done!! Thank you so much and God bless you!!

  • @bjarczyk
    @bjarczyk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hi Simon, when I first read your book I immediately hoped to see a conversation with you and Dr. Fuhrman at some point. You both take the science very seriously and this was a great interview!

  • @rhondalongtine2907
    @rhondalongtine2907 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dr Fuhrman is the best!!!!

  • @zachcain2639
    @zachcain2639 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The other wrinkle with “nutrient density” is the denominator. Dr Fuhrman prefers “per calorie” whereas others look at the weight or volume of the food. Per calorie makes sense if a person is trying to lose weight, whereas per gram/volume makes sense if a person has limited stomach capacity or generally struggles to get in enough nutrients and doesn’t struggle with obesity. I see lots of people shouting over each other on which foods are most nutrient dense and I wish they’d just pause and clarify their definition of nutrient density and sometimes they’d see they’re both right depending on the definition

    • @astonuk9403
      @astonuk9403 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good point. He did mention losing calories from raw vegetables, the body uses more calories to digest raw vegetables than cooked. Processing foods is a good overall, like turning nuts in to nut butters helps break down the cell walls and thus helping maximise the calories taken in.

    • @Threebridgecastle
      @Threebridgecastle 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@astonuk9403Also you don’t lose nutrients, enzymes and good bacteria from eating your veggies raw rather than cooked. Fuhrman always recommends cooking mushrooms and dried beans (obviously) though. He recommends eating a big raw salad every day. It’s something I’ve tried to do since following him about 3 years ago. It works wonders, in so many ways. I still eat cooked veg too, in curries, chilli and soups.

    • @astonuk9403
      @astonuk9403 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Threebridgecastle A balance of both cooked and raw is optimal. I've eaten raw shiitake mushrooms and developed a severe reaction so definitely cook your mushrooms.

    • @Threebridgecastle
      @Threebridgecastle 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@astonuk9403 Yeah, I always cook mushrooms, as advised by Fuhrman. There’s a carcinogenic compound in raw mushrooms that’s neutralised by heat. My next goal is to up the amount of fermented foods I eat. Kimchi and sauerkraut primarily.

  • @fredflintstone577
    @fredflintstone577 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love that you constantly push back to his associations. We all want good information, thanks for sharing.

    • @ThingsYoudontwanttohear
      @ThingsYoudontwanttohear 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I honestly considered Fuhrman to be a quack, but hearing how he responded to Simon's pushback makes me consider taking him off my quack list.
      He is not off the hook yet, though. A lot of his statements related to biochemistry seem strange to me, so I wish he would stick to that hard human outcome data.

  • @user-gv6gk7of1f
    @user-gv6gk7of1f 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The two people I follow and trust the most are, you, Simon Hill and Dr Joel Fuhrman so you can imagine my excitement to see this interview. Thank you so much! As always, Simon, you did a masterful job of interviewing - you have an uncanny ability to channel the listener and ask exactly the question that is forming in my mind. And I love that the long format of your interviews allow you to go much deeper with your guests than most shows.
    The only two things I would have really liked to have seen would have been: #1 more specifics about the way of eating that that Dr Fuhrman promotes (the "Nutritarian" diet). I have found it marvelously prescriptive in terms of what to seek out (greens, beans/legumes/tofu, veggies, mushrooms, berries), what to seek out but also limit in quantity if looking for weight loss (nuts/seeds, ground flax, avocado, whole grains), what to avoid (processed foods, sugar, salt, oil), and how to supplement (mappable to Simon's nutrients of importance). It is straightforward and no-nonsense; I am thriving eating this way and feel like it is entirely sustainable for the long-haul. I see it as exactly the high-quality healthy eating pattern that Simon so frequently discusses with his guests. I think that if the folks commenting here that Fuhrman is a quack saw the specifics of his eating plan they would have to rethink that position. #2 I question the TH-cam Video title page "IS YOUR DIET KILLING YOU?" - that seems unnecessarily hyperbolic and incompatible with your thoughtful interview and Dr Fuhrman's methodical approach to health. I fear you are going to turn off potential viewers with that.
    Still this was a *great* interview - thoroughly enjoyed it. It was especially fun to see Dr Fuhrman's respect for you grow as the interview progressed and also to see him relax into the conversation as you disarmed him with your great questions and follow-ups. Anyway, thanks a million for this one! Already watched it twice.

  • @smilebot484
    @smilebot484 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    so excited for this one. we've been following the nutritarian eating style for the past 5 years.

    • @kh485
      @kh485 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How is it going on the program? What is the most challenging aspect of this lifestyle for you and your family? Thanks!!!

  • @cherylatkins7600
    @cherylatkins7600 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Brilliant interview. Brilliant. Thank you Simon and Dr Fuhrman. ❤

  • @That_Guy_111
    @That_Guy_111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great interview.

  • @kimberlydeprey
    @kimberlydeprey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Excellent job on the preparation of this interview and Dr Fuhrman’s answers to each topic. Superb!

  • @pennyd3607
    @pennyd3607 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Excellent interview!! I love Dr Fuhrman and just discovered this channel. You obviously know a great deal about nutrition as well. Super interesting and engaging! Wow! New subscriber.

  • @rissy288
    @rissy288 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Loved this so informative thanks for going the extra mile/km to provide such an amazing podcast. Keeps me on track as I age. ❤

  • @ritajhorn3585
    @ritajhorn3585 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love this interview, so much good information. Thank you

  • @jeffreywp
    @jeffreywp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Good job, Simon. To me, you seemed a bit restrained on some of the topics but you gave him a platform and he expressed himself well. I wish there had been more links to research to support what Dr. Fuhrman was saying. I stepped away from him (and most other plant-based docs) two-three years ago. Will check him out again.

    • @wizardatmath
      @wizardatmath 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You've got good instincts for bullshit Bro. This guy is a schill for the fish oil industry.

  • @kathyplaza9883
    @kathyplaza9883 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I loved the depth of information presented in this interview due to the fact that both interviewer and interviewee were skilled enough to get deeper into research results than most TH-cam interviews of Dr. Fuhrman. Thank you, Simon.

  • @Lieutenant-Dan
    @Lieutenant-Dan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great conversation, very interesting. Thank you Simon and Joel!

  • @suzanneoneill8102
    @suzanneoneill8102 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    yet another excellent podcast - many thanks

  • @cassandrabennett9446
    @cassandrabennett9446 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    You are such a patient and thoughtful interviewer Simon. It’s great to see 😊

  • @sandyglover736
    @sandyglover736 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Another incredible podcast Simon!

  • @SWLion26
    @SWLion26 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, Simon and Dr. Fuhrman, for this interview. Highly informative and valuable nutrition information that can be applied to daily life. I’m not a vegan, but I do eat a primarily whole food plant-based diet with 90 to 95% of protein coming from plant protein foods. And I do agree with Dr. Fuhrman about the importance of incorporating nuts and seeds into the diet instead of oils. Oil is 100% fat, nuts and seeds contain all the macros, including fiber; I think that’s the better option.

  • @MrSunnyBhoy
    @MrSunnyBhoy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great podcast. I really enjoyed it, lot of info to digest and I enjoy these long videos. Usually listen when I'm driving or cycling. Keep up the good work

  • @kellihillebrand8341
    @kellihillebrand8341 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Big fan of Dr Fuhrman🤗

  • @mike.999
    @mike.999 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That was such a great discussion with lots of usefull informations 🙏

  • @carrienelson8220
    @carrienelson8220 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really enjoyed this episode, it was incredibly informative and interesting!

  • @TheRealJennHill
    @TheRealJennHill หลายเดือนก่อน

    Simon, You have such GREAT questions! I love hearing the opposing views that create a more diverse discussion that considers both sides! Glad I found your channel!

  • @hannahx212
    @hannahx212 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    "do you soak your nuts?"
    "I just use soap and water"
    best part of the episode 🤣

  • @rbphilip
    @rbphilip 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This was great, and has inspired me to get my act together.

  • @sittingfrogleg
    @sittingfrogleg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great episode, I learnt new things, thank you!

  • @cathycollins2501
    @cathycollins2501 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your content is.always bomb. Thank you for the encouragement always

  • @gordonhalstead9846
    @gordonhalstead9846 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Simon your podcast channel presention is best information to educate the public for Healthy nutritional information knowledge, more powers to your programs The Proofs God bless

  • @rosskinghorn
    @rosskinghorn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    great episode.

  • @angeladavies
    @angeladavies 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    TY I agree we are overfed overweight generally & the normal becomes the normal. Soup & salads w nuts seeds is filling & nutritious thus a tip I will incorporate.

  • @shantianita3282
    @shantianita3282 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a thorough interview Simon! And of course, I am a Dr Fuhrman groupie. Excellent information shared Dr Fuhrman!

  • @MendeMaria-ej8bf
    @MendeMaria-ej8bf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This sounds convincing. Thank you.

  • @arleenm7367
    @arleenm7367 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Thanks for this interview. Dr. Fuhrman's books and lectures were my first steps years ago to eating a vegan diet. I still occasionally slip up and eat some vegan junk food, but it seems I have his voice in my head telling me to eat those mostly nutritious plant foods.

    • @larrywatson5754
      @larrywatson5754 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I take his advise there is no slip up if u made a turn for the better eating 90 percent better u can so called slip up there is no perfection it’s a journey to better ourselves

    • @kh485
      @kh485 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s a challenge to eat optimally. That’s for sure.

  • @olyav5819
    @olyav5819 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great interview!

  • @adripaez
    @adripaez 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    39:15 The nuts joke! OMG it cracked me up! I don’t know how they managed to recover and move on 😂 🥜

  • @musicmonsterman8395
    @musicmonsterman8395 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I LOVE FURHMAN BROOOOOOOO

    • @musicmonsterman8395
      @musicmonsterman8395 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This may be the BEST most useful and most informative episode ever. So many good nuggets in here. Could you please please please get Bryan Johnson on here at some point haha

  • @signorinabohemia3140
    @signorinabohemia3140 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow Simon! You’re bringing in the (no oil) big guns! Who’s next Alan Goldhamer!?!? 😁😉 Appreciated your words in the intro and thoroughly enjoyed hearing Dr. Fuhrman. As always you bring out the best in those that you interview, good job! Also really enjoying your guides, I ordered all of them 💪🏼😃

  • @topofthemornintoya
    @topofthemornintoya 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Incredible conversation

  • @WeCelebrateEatingPlants
    @WeCelebrateEatingPlants 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you 🥦❤

  • @rwh4114
    @rwh4114 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Some excellent questions. I wish Dr. Fuhrman provided the scientific studies to back his positions.

  • @emilybarry9410
    @emilybarry9410 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    HUGE FAN and supporter of both of you and your work! Very much appreciate this in-depth conversation and will definitely be re-listening 🙏

  • @timh-c7186
    @timh-c7186 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Simon, an interesting conversation. We're all simply trying to navigate our way through the nutrition maze to suit our individual metabolism. IMHO Dr Fuhrman could listen to your podcasts with Richard Johnson...he may then look at dopamine and hunger a little differently

  • @coffeewithcream523
    @coffeewithcream523 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    New subscriber, great interview and very informative.

  • @StephenMarkTurner
    @StephenMarkTurner 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Great to see Dr Fuhrman on your podcast. He makes a lot of interesting points, like slight calorie restriction (as opposed to cutting out 25% or similar), and that we can use science to design the best diet ie Blue Zones are great but not necessarily the best possible.

    • @megavegan5791
      @megavegan5791 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He makes a lot of unsubstantiated claims which undermine his credibility, like when he went on the Mark Bell podcast and stated that being an NFL linebacker was the most dangerous profession, in part due to all of the animal protein they consume...WTF?

    • @Cingearth
      @Cingearth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@megavegan5791d yes the quarterbackera do die young !

  • @song2533
    @song2533 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think you were right about the Predimed study.
    I can't see any reference to pre-study nut consumption, and the nut and EVOO arms had similar outcomes.

  • @peterz53
    @peterz53 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dr. F had a large influence on me when starting out on my plant based journey. BTW, Omega index of 7.8% last year at 68 yo. WFPB for 10+ years (BMI of 25) but with a small amount of fish once or twice a week (wild sardines or wild salmon), Also routinely eats nuts and olives and EVOL. Was also taking about 200 mg/day DHA/EPA (algae) long term. Increased to about 400 mg/d and will test again soon. Objective to be above 8% (based on work of Bill Harris PhD). On zinc, you can also get a metals panel which will also give you insight into toxic heavy metals. Worth doing.

    • @imhassane
      @imhassane 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We’re following the same diet, I hope I’ll get a good omega 3 index too. I basically used a vegan diet to drop my cholesterol to optimal levels (Total cholesterol: 130, LDL: 80) and now I’ve added mackerel and sardine to get better omega 3s and still eat a ton of flaxseeds everyday (around 40g of flaxseeds)

    • @peterz53
      @peterz53 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@imhassane Great!. I'm sure you will. Flaxseeds - yes, I forgot as I eat a bit most days

    • @kiramiftari9486
      @kiramiftari9486 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How are you measuring - which company?

    • @peterz53
      @peterz53 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kiramiftari9486 omega-3 index by omegaquant. Company founded by researcher Bill Harris. Worth catch him in podcasts.

    • @peterz53
      @peterz53 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kiramiftari9486ps. They send you a kit. Blood spot sample which you mail back for analysis.

  • @talgara69
    @talgara69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent

  • @felicisimomalinao1981
    @felicisimomalinao1981 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video.

  • @kardste8114
    @kardste8114 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I Love your favorite soup Dr. F. I’d like to try it! 👍

  • @jakobw135
    @jakobw135 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great podcast. 👍👌

  • @DouglasAbramskiOfficial
    @DouglasAbramskiOfficial 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good.

  • @Zenjohnny
    @Zenjohnny 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Looking at Simon and saying you need animal protein to get big/strong is kind of hilarious. Hahaha 🤣 great interview Simon thanks man!

    • @francesbernard2445
      @francesbernard2445 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. Except in the winter time in a cold climate without being able to own a car after puberty for around half of us now during our child bearing years. An Obstetrician who studied in more than one nation while becoming well educated once told me that some female adults get pregnant without having the so called norm when it comes to their periods. Perhaps contaminiation in both the ground and in ground water since the days of Cain and Able has something to do with why women in some areas do not ever experience what would seem to them being like a too heavy period to be normal? In the same regions both men and women alike enjoy freedom from so called Dementia well into old age while being able to retain their ability to hear in the higher pitches range. Well enough for male persons to go hunting for wild eggs during their 60's and 70's sometimes too while practising good team spirit. Wild eggs which can only be found after climbing cliffs together on a day out with 'the boys'

    • @brendawood6712
      @brendawood6712 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Simon is a hunk and OMG , that voice

  • @Ded-Ede
    @Ded-Ede 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:16:16 I kept adjusting the volume and now I realize the doctor microphone is much lower than the host microphone, and the overall broadcast is much lower than the TH-cam commercials 😤 great information 😊

  • @dinomiles7999
    @dinomiles7999 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I get my bio markers tested it shows that I'm clearing most toxic properties out of my system. Clean raw food power .

  • @kair7369
    @kair7369 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The real wisdom bomb drops at 1:32 in - everyone should listen starting there through the end at least 2-3 times to really let it sink in.

  • @karwask1
    @karwask1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi Simon, I really appreciate your, sort of, introduction to the concept that maybe talking about some things anecdotal is worthwhile. I've always thought that there are interesting voices, practitioners, out there doing great things but because their work is not published in the usual way, (most often they have a lot of case studies) that the insights that they have gained are not represented anywhere when we are so fixated on RCT's and such as we are. As much as I'm also a proponent of knowing what the science says, (and there are limits and imperfections there as well, of course), I think there is a place for expanding our insight and knowledge by giving voice to others. To that end, I wonder how open you would be to having such guests on as Dr. Brooke Goldner and also the good folks from Mastering Diabetes??? Seems as if, at this juncture in time, both have had, not just hundreds, but thousands of folks through their respective programs and the results are amazing, something we should be hearing more about IMHO. thx

  • @limitisillusion7
    @limitisillusion7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    47:36 The only problem i have with comparing nutrient density of green vegetables to any other food is that is pretty hard to eat 100 calories of green vegetables. This is coming from someone who eats 10 ounces of mixed left greens a day. That's a big salad, truly, and it's only about 70 calories of lettuce. We cannot depend on greens to get our caloric needs or we will be in the toilet allday.