How about Corvette, Mustang, Camaro, Cadillac CTS-V and Challenger⁉️ I don't know if people are daft enough to buy these heaps, but they definitely aren't good‼️🙁🙁🙁
+MrKeyboardCommando yeah, but is backed up by facts the camaro SS is an astounding car both on the street and track, the new Ford mustang has a very well built interior & good fuel economy with IMO the best looking muscle car in this class. & the corvette is now the new standard of performance excellence for it's even beating Nissans GTR & the challenger well it's just a whale.
Mazda 6 on this list is a crying shame. I agree that it's so much better-looking, and by all accounts it drives better than the competition. Here's hoping for a new Mazdaspeed 6!
Siper2 jdpower. com/ cars/ study/ 2016-Vehicle-Dependability-Study-%28VDS%29-by-Category/ 843ENG/ Midsize-Car/ 1098 It's better than a Volkswagen Passat, but that's not saying much.
+Zihao Fan Maybe it is. The way I see it,the RLX has all wheel steering,rides a lot nicer, much better interior quality,more powerful,more comfortable,a bit bigger.
well....the ss has a v8, you can't get a M5 for 42K (New that is) . Lexus dosent make a real competitor (rip ISF). 4 four AMG Mercedes C, E, and S classes are way to expensive and risky. I just wished there were cheap small v8 sedans available
My little brother bought a 2017 SS with the 6 speed stick and it hauls! Holden pirated away 2 BMW engineers who worked on the BMW E39 M5 and they helped to turn this thing into a serious competitor next to that Bimmer. I drove it for about 40 miles through the Marin County coast hills and those narrow little ridge-line roads, and this thing is a blast to drive hard. My regular driver is a 2001 BMW 330xi 5-speed manual. It doesn't have the straight line power but it'll run right with that SS on the back roads. Chevy has nothing to apologize for with this SS. It is a serious drivers car... maybe we just don't have enough serious drivers in the market???
Apparently a lot of guys like you who only buy cars with their genitals only care about how fast it goes. That is so immature. Things like reliability, service contract, features are important to smart people who can afford to buy cars. Who gives a capybara's ass how fast it goes when we are sitting in Los Angeles traffic?
+BlueLizard87 People don't buy Lincoln's, when was the last time you saw a new one? Ditto Cadillac. That 2 door is insanely priced. Cadillac will never command those kind of luxury prices, those days are over.
Love the K900! Huge Value Proposition! Also love the Lincoln MKZ. Much better fit and finish than cars costing $10K-$25K more! Both are great Certified Used deals!
I think volkswagen shot themselves in the foot by making the earlier touaregs of low quality and poor reliability. Earlier Touareg owners were even scared away from the volkswagen brand altogether because the vehicle had too many maintenance problems for a vehicle in that price range.
Hahaahah all those cars won’t last after the 100 to 150 thousand miles, when you can get a Camry that will last over well over 300 thousand miles, and keep going. so with this opinion you know why, we the people don’t get that stupid chip cars, Japanese are great making car and good engineer on them... so here you have Ford, General motors, chevy, Kia, get better at making car that will last a long time son of a gun.....!!!
I had 2008 Avalon basically Camry and after 150k things started to fall apart.Engine light sensor buried deep in the engine lots of labor to change.door windows front failed to close,suspension sagged dramatically,started engine needed to be replaced I basically donated the car instead wasting more money on it. Anyway this is my experience yours could be different
In Australia the SS is a better car than a 300c must be made in Mexico. HSV spec SS are sex on wheels in Australia and the cops use them. All yank cars are just pure rubbish now ie FIAT Chrysler
wagons, i personally love wagons myself but i never see them offered here and if they are they never sell usually compared to their useless sedan versions. only one i see really is subaru outback, golf sportwagon and some other german wagons. meanwhile in europe they get wagon everything and they sell so well
VW Touareg "is basically Porsche Cayenne". Have you been asleep for the past 10 years? It's the Cayenne that built on the Touareg platform, not... ah, whatever. American know about cars as much as dogs know about knitting.
the 500 has a high center of gravity, if pushed (i.e. on track) it rolls too happily. and here in Italy i can think of better cars i could buy with less money, (both categories: small sportycars or cars to get noticed).
+Matteo Bandera (Teoflag) A Fiat 500 (at least speaking of the 500 Sport and Abarth 500 since I've owned both) doesn't roll remotely like most other cars. My Abarth rolls less than an Impreza WRX STI.. I've done things in my Abarth where I I tell myself "I shouldn't be able to be doing this in a subcompact" . And mine doesn't even have a stabilizer bar or strut bar. The only bad I can nitpick about my Abarth personally is the doors squeak, it eats sparkplugs and tires every 25-30k. And the last 2 are probably my fault. lol
If you're taking a 500 to the track, you bought the wrong car. It's much more fun to drive on the street. Especially when people are trying to figure out which car is making that sweet exhaust noise.
they have come leaps and bounds over what they used to be, though a nice lacrosse has a nicer interior and ride, but i do like the design of the Hyundai more.
I have worked on every one of these cars they talked about and I wouldn't own any of them! They are hard to work on, parts are pricey or hard to get, they are unreliable and resale is terrible except for the VW and it is the best of the five but still not easy to work on.
A vette costs half of what an F type costs, the F type is in Porsche 911 territory price wise. You can get a Z06 vette for the typical out the door price of a V6 F type and a well equipped Stingray for less than the absolute base price of an F type. Plus there is probably over 100 Chevy dealers for every Jag dealer.
Out of all the German cars I've driven the Jaguar is actually the best handling car and one of the most fun to drive. And the new corvettes are getting quite common actually. A Jaguar is just something special... It isn't as luxurious as a Mercedes or as fast as a z06 but the drive and the character makes up for that and so much more.
More realistic answer is, Mazda doesn't have enough money to market their cars right in the states. They're killing it in here I'm australia. And they're great drivers cars.
+prettyrickyd47 mazdas are good looking, reliable and drive well. They have no fault in in their products but compared to other Japanese companies like Toyota, Honda and Nissan it's a small player. They have less resources to play with when it comes to promoting and marketing their products. There are less dealerships to begin with in the states that is. Like I said where I'm from in Australia they're killing it
+OfficialMINIm Nah, the realistic answer to why the 6 doesn't sell as well as the Camry, Accord, and Fusion is because the 6 isn't a Camry, Accord, or Fusion. The people buying them do so because they're safe, boring cars for safe, boring people. Mom or Dad wants something "sporty" to go with their Sienna or Odyssey so they head on down to the dealer and say things like "oooh, this one has two exhausts" or "honey, should we go crazy and get the black leather instead of tan?"
promotion and 0% finance can sell you anything. also, hyundai put a lot of gadget in their car. you can get a accent equip like a 35k car for 17-18k (cnd speaking). just so happen i shop for mazda 3/ elantra gt 4 month ago. i end up with a use 2013 impreza wagon sport. so much better for less.
+Nigel Saunders i've shop mazda in 2004....they say they fix the problem. i've shop mazda in 2008, they say they have fixed the problem, same in 2011, and again in 2016 . will they ever?
Mazda +1 My last three vehicles have been Mazdas! Currently driving a 2013 Mazda 3, manual trans with SkyActiv engine. Before that, I owned two Mazda Proteges. Ran both of those over 100k mi with almost no problems. Years down the line, my next vehicle will most likely be a Mazda. I work in the car business and I see which vehicles are consistently problematic. Mazda is definitely not one of them!
I had a Mazda MPV and the doors began to rust out while under warranty. The gas tank and brake lines rusted out, both needing replacement. I had to have a lot of panel metal cut out and replaced due to rust. I’ll never buy another Mazda, as best I can’t tell their cars are made of scrap tin.
I owned a previa that went 984k miles, corolla that did 423k miles, camry 525k miles, 100k miles in a mazda and proud of it is definitely a reason I’d never buy one.. that’s not even broken in on an old Toyota
Also, because Americans are just way too practical. "Oh, let's buy a Camry over a Mazda 6 even though the Camry has no interior or looks. It will last 20 000 to 50 000 miles more than the Mazda, though and we appreciate that, because we are cheap fucks."
I don't think the Touareg ($49K) competes with the Ford Edge ($28K). I think it competes, based on price and size, with the Lexus RX ($43K), Land Rover Evoque ($41K), Jaguar F-Pace ($41K) and the Mercedes GLE ($52). The problem is that journalist want to put the Touareg against Edges, Grand Cherokees and other $30K SUVs which hurt the Touareg's premium image.
Well said, Touareg is a machine that is not built for the "average consumer". When you look at what it gives for the money, its clear. They dont advertise 8000 lbs towing capacity, 7l/100km fuel consumption, over 400 lbs/ft torque. Only need one vehicle, this one, not one for the work days and one for the holidays... it does everything extremely well. Everything.
The Touareg is a premium car from an everyday-car company, it can’t compete with Fords (for example) because it’s too expensive, and can’t compete with premium brands because of the company it comes from
The word has been out about how unreliable VW's are. Not many consumers are willing to chance $50k on a vehicle that will likely have poor reliability and high maintenance cost.
Touareg is an absolutely amazing vehicle. Tows anything, off road is amazing, gas mileage 24mpg at 80mph consistantly. V10 diesel, loads of torque, quiet, very comfortable.
Mazda6's are EXCELLENT cars. Compared to the 4 cylinder Ford Fusion, Honda Accord, and Toyota Camry, it definatley outshines them in style and is just fun to drive. I have a 2011 V6 Mazda6 and I absolutely love it. My only gripe is that they don't make a V6 anymore or a I4 with a turbo. ZOOM ZOOM
Offthbadan It's the same car !!! Guy ... Both the Chevrolet SS and Pontiac G8 are rebadged Holden Commodores that was manufactured in Australia. And the styling is subdued but very nice probably due to insurance reasons also to the fact that it has a de tune Corvette engine
KIA K900, $49,000 seriously? I am going to put down almost $50K on a KIA? a used 2015, one year old, lost almost $12K in value at the same dealership. It maybe nice but that's just too much.
You guys sound like slimy fast talking used car salesmen. EVERYTHING made today is so complex and parts so expensive that only factory techs can fix them. That guarantees planned obsolescence and rapid depreciation. You should be slamming the industry and advocating a return to simplicity. I lament the days (late '60-early '70's) when one could order an Impala in one of 23 colors, tutones, 10 interior colors, 8 different engine choices. I have '64 Chevy I drive every day..parts dirt cheap and I can fix anything that fails under my shade tree. Today you have a choice of what ?, half a dozen colors and a choice of gray or gray interiors? You guys celebrate the mediocrity that you grew up with. What truly great cars we could have if the bean counters hadn't over ruled the engineers. The automotive press is complicit in leading the flock of sheep who are clueless as to what a really great car should be.
Thank god they don't build cars like they used to. You're living in nostalgia, looking through the rose colored glasses of your youth. Cars nowadays are more comfortable, more consumer oriented, create less emissions, safer and far more reliable. "KISS" is a great modo to follow... just not always when it comes to automotive engineering. I do COMPLETELY agree that the romance of owning a car isn't what it used to be. Times change though.
There is no doubt that modern vehicles are more comfortable, durable,safe. That progress is commendable and desirable and would be compatible with a natural progression of development. There is no conflict with my statement above. My gripe is consumers are channeled into buy vehicles that offer a minimum of choices and forced to purchase what used to be options. The more conveniences (pw, pl, a/c, keyless, anti-lock, and soon driverless,etc.) the greater complexity and consumer dissatisfaction with the vehicle when these systems fail. (Leading to otherwise unnecessary purchase of new vehicles). Over complex and failure prone engine control and emissions control add major repair expense. The technology exists to greatly improve mileage and cut emissions without "modern" complexity if the engineers are cut loose. Alcohol or other fuels have the potential to cut emissions to near zero. Get government regulation off the back of the auto industry and miracles can happen. In closing I can't tell the car brand without looking at the badge. I remember when Jr. Johnson was driving a Chevy and Richard Petty drove a Plymouth. Genuine factory competition was good for the development of better cars.
That not lasting in cold climates is due to corrosion by use of salt on the roads. (still a serious issue even with new vehicles..up here in WNY 5 year old cars are turning to rust buckets) Any mechanical issues are easily and cheaply addressed. My '64 Chevy came from SC..not a spot of rust.
Offering such a huge variety of colors would result in an MSRP jump several hundred dollars across the board. Call me frugal, I'd much rather save the few hundred bucks and have an average looking car. This is coming from someone that drives a cherry red Ram. The automobile isn't what it used to be. You're no longer defined as much by the car you drive. They're primarily viewed as utilities nowadays. I wouldn't say that's a bad change unless you're a car enthusiast. Culture changes. The industry has responded to that change.
I don't need to drive a Mazda 6 to know that it's slow. The best thing you can say about it is that it's good for a 4 cylinder, when compared to other 4 cylinders in the class. If your other option is a 4 cylinder Camry, then absolutely get the Mazda 6 instead. However, no, a 4 cylinder sedan with no turbo isn't going to light my fires. I stand by my opinion that Mazdas need more powerful options across the range. Probably the only one with decent performance is the Miata, and I don't want one of those for other reasons.
Just buy a vehicle that looks good? No thank you. I prefer to drive a reliable vehicle that also looks good and holds its value. To each their own, but this is hardly great car buying advise.
The Mazda 6 first generation leave a bad taste in so many people's mouth nobody's looking at his new ones the first gen was a gas guzzler and that loud High revving engine, and the Chevy SS just don't look fast it look like a oversized Cruise Volkswagen Touareg beat your pockets at the dealer for maintenance and the part is expensive
The SS is a horrible name. SS suggests that it is a variant of some other car. Name it the Scorpion or the Thunderstorm or something, who knew it was a completely unique different car. As for the K900 the name is indeed horrible, the letter K in the US means cheap... K-Mart, K-Car, K-12 (kindergarten), as mentioned K-9, but I think Kia (another K that doesnt really work) is doing what its big brother did, Hyundai, eat it for years on a high end car, which will pull the entire line up... oh well... anyone remember the fantastic Kia Borrega? Full size SUV with a V8 directly from the Genesis... too bad.
The crazy thing is that GM is selling exactly as many SS models as it planned to. It was never meant to be volume seller. I think the SS nameplate suites it fine... If anything call it a Impala SS (Throwing back to the B-body). The can't do that, because the Impala is their high end sedan, and people shopping for those don't care about performance.
Why not? Classic chevelle could come in many different bodystyles! Including sedan and wagon. It would arguably be best traumatising for a modern Chevelle sedan or wagon unlike the I like the charger and which only came in a coupe back in the seventies
Yes the most important thing, they don't talk about, because that is the most expensive thing for car companies to include into the manufacturing process of their cars. It means over the years you will spend less on parts and cars if your car is reliable. Most people can see through buffoons b.s. like these clowns you see in this video
I love the Ford 500, Taurus and the older mercury line. These cars are fords big sellers and if you take care of them they will give you years of service and comfort.
Wow! I love all those cars. I am getting an ELR as my commuter car at the end of the year (hopefully). But I looked at and highly considered the SS and Mazda.
Heard VERY negative things about almost ALL compact Chevys ever made... Cruze... Sonic... Cobalt... all lacking in the cost & long term reliability department...
honorable mention: Ford Flex. 2018 will be it's last year. My wife and I love this vehicle. Better ride than the explorer imo, just looks like a hearse. Plenty of space.
Yup I agree. That's what happens when you import and re brand a car from an island across the planet that used to be a penal colony. Huge import fees. That and even though I live the idea of a full size rear drive v8 sedan ; Americans don't buy them anymore for some reason.
+ClayPF I owned both. at least the cimarron never stopped running or let me down. the catera was a POS from the start. the volt wasn't that bad of a car, but the non changeable batteries and price ruined both the ELR and Volt. They're not supposed to be fast.
VW is just boring outside look, even if decent car, it's design never changes and looks old. And exactly who would buy a luxury KIA, it's KIA brand that makes it fail lol
I bought the 2013 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring, first year. Awesome car, handles phenomenal, comfortable to drive, decent MPG. No mechanical issues , at all. The only complaint I would make is the Bose sound system is not really up to par. After driving a Ford Probe the previous 15 years, it was quite a disappointment. No where close to the quality of the Ford sound system. Mechanically, no problems at all. Hard to beat.
No kidding, j think the fact that there are only a handful used for sale nationwide says alot. I always talk to other mazda owners and that is what mazda needs to show. When you get a 3 5 or 6 you are getting a great car. The 7 and 9 and mazdaspeeds are nice and performed good but require bmw like maintenance. The cx7 is like a poor mans porche. The russian snow video probly sold more cx7's than anything maxfa marketing ever did.
Had a Mazda 6 rental for 1 month. Ran well, but ugly intrusive box on dash. Friend of mine was in the market for a new car at that time and was also turned away because of dash design. Bought an Accord instead.
For under 10k? It's really hard to find any SUV within the past 8 years for under 10k. Although, I did find an AWD 2011 Chevy Equinox for 7.5k. The car is nothing special, but worth the price I paid for it.
Less than 50 used 7 or less years old for sale nationwide right now. Of those 50 about 10 look to be rental car companies selling the cars because they are outside of factory warranty. I bought mine thos way. It was 100% dealer maintained and i just replaced all the little broken interior parts andbthe steering wheel. 100k miles later the car still drives the same. Only issue is the tpms sensor went out. Bought the cap style and installed them exactly right, kind of glad because i like seeing my tire pressure readout
Gary Lennon You are so right Gary I own a 2015 Mazda 6 and I love it !!! Fantastic car , In my opinion the most beautiful car ( mid sized) on the market. Great value ,Great reliability ,Great fuel economy Great Looks unfortunately alot of people have overlooked this beauty...sad... people are blind...
I agree, except... the Mazda6 has garnered raves in the automotive press, so... it’s not that it’s “underrated”: rather, it’s under-appreciated by consumers. The whole brand is(!). I never looked at them before 2014, and now... we’re a two-Mazda household. We tested e-v-e-r-y compact sedan out there, and my partner chose to lease a ‘14 ‘3’ (...due to a sweet incentive, he upgraded to a ‘17 last year). In Jan ‘17, I was shopping luxury SUV’s: Volvo XC60, Audi Q5, Q7... until I drove a left-over CX9 ‘Signature’. I Absolutely Love It! Can’t understand why Mazda’s aren’t flying out of the dealerships. Except... U.S. car buyer’s have always seemed to take a strange, herd-like comfort in buying ‘what everyone else is driving’ - regardless of ‘rave reviews’. It’s fascinating. And I admit: I had likewise never considered Mazda... until I finally DROVE one(!). ...And if you haven’t tested one since their ‘divorce’ from Ford, you owe it to yourself to take a turn behind the wheel. OH..., and having driven in my CX-9 several times, my BOSS was so impressed that she bought her first Mazda: a CX-3 (she wanted a compact SUV). I’m telling you... the person who drives one, buys one!
The VW Touareg has so many electronic problems. One owner I know has the entire instrument panel went black on him and after changing the panels twice, the problem persisted. He terminated his lease before it ended.
626 is from ages ago. Ever since mazda went onto the mazda name and numbering they've been a vastly better company. Your point speaks volumes to brand reputation based on their past however its still like saying you bought a product in the 80's from a company that sucked so you wouldnt buy anything from them now. Companies and products change its been ages and obviously if they hadn't improved they'd be out of business by now.
tinleo333 Everyone at some point has mad a shit car. Ford made the pinto etc etc. No companies perfect and great example of what I don't believe what you're saying here makes any difference is because Dodge sells a boat load of vehicles and land rovers while being known as some of the shittest built cars ever still constantly sell. Reliability isn't the most important feature to all buys, especially since in America the average person get a different car every 3 years so says analytical statistics.
tinleo333 Eh I can't argue with both those cars being shit boxes, however that still is the past. Also the Dodge Neon was kinda intentionally meant to be a shit box since it was so damn cheap.
But what about resale? if you buy a car that no one is buying will anyone want it when you sell it??? if it doesn't sell new it won't sell used........
I like the Mazda 6, but bought a Ford Fusion for two reasons. First the Mazda 6 has a 14-1 compression engine which could be a problem if the computer fails or you get a bad tank of gas. The Fusion has a 10-1 compression ration in the base engine which was developed by Ford and Mazda a few years ago. However, if Mazda had a Mazda 6spd I'd be all over it. The Chevy's SS would be a great car, but I think it's priced too high. It looks like a Cruze and the engine alone is not enough reason to attract buyers. Know that it's a Holden makes me curious, if only was affordable. The KIA K900 is also too expensive especially for the person that buys a KIA. KiA buyers are looking for a cheaper car, and no matter how good it is, nobody will believe it's Acura or Infiniti quality. Car prices in general are getting out of hand. I've seen lots of late model Ford Fusions around lately. Clearly people like the looks, and the price lets them own a sporty looking car with lots of space inside for four.
The Cadillac ELR was crap. It was a smaller 2 door Chevrolet Volt with a $76,000 MSRP. Not many people wanted it when they updated it with a more powerful engine and lower price either. The Cadillac ELR feels like a decision 1990s GM would have made.
The k900 is not selling a lot cause they’re too new for people to get familiar with. And not only the k900 hardly even exist. 9/10 Kia dealerships don’t even own a single k900 cause it’s a rare gem car. Plus Kia already has a car that’s very similar to the k900 which is the genesis. and for Hyundai it’s the equus. K900 is more of a Korean thing than American thing for people to drive.
iLiketigerz101 The K900 is not selling simply because it's labeled a Kia . And it's a Luxury car caught with a non-Luxury car brand name. If it was a Genesis. The car would probably sell well it's almost as well made as a Lexus or Mercedes Benz but about $20.000 cheaper.
The chevy ss is just another Pontiac g8 just with the Chevy nameplate very strong car way better than the challenger in my opinion and the the Ford variant what ever it may be. This list isn't that bad.
elton john over 400 horses, 4,5 second 0 to 60, quarter mile in the low 13's or high 12's. If you over look the performance for the looks with this car, then it sounds like a optima or fusion is your best bet. Running down some 2 door coupe in a 4000 pound sedan and the look on the drivers face should be enough lmfao
Well, the Chevy SS is just a 2008 Pontiac G8. Since GM killed Pontiac, all they did was literally bring it back under Chevy's name with modern tech, and they haven't changed the design...
Ole Boy the 0-60 is 4.7. The charger 392 scat pack 0-60 is 4.3 with 485 hp and starts at 39k. The SS starts at $47k . I think they actually lowered it, in pretty sure it used to start at $49k.
The vet out sells the Jag for the reliability reasons that have already been brought up and also because the Jag costs 3 times as much for parts and labor as the Vet.
I'm buying my first car soon.. and I've been REALLY looking at all the options within my price limit which is around 30K.. I dont want something everybody has like a honda, toyota, nissan, ect.. so the 2017 Mazda 6 is still standing out to me the most.
1. mazda had a long span of unreliable cars that tainted the brand and they haven't really ever recovered sadly. 2. the chevy ss aka pontiac g8 looks more like a ford taurus than the 4d rwd muscle car it can be. 3 Jag has a small market due to its price and lack of dealerships, the car is epic. 4. Nobody wants a rebadged volt. 5. its a vw version of a better car. 6. its a kia.
Mazda unreliable? Lol, try owner a performance bmw, Mercedes, or Porche. They are so bad there is maintenance you have to get while nothing seems wrong and if you don't do it it can suddenly destroy the car. Ie. All of the above listed automaker coolant pumping and handling systems. Now dipshit gm is going to as well. Ford is turbocharged its cars and nissan has all cvt trannys. I would argue the mazda 3 base and the toyota corrola s type are the only hyper reliable vehicles made in 2017.
Where do people get that Mazda is an unreliable car?! It's actually the most reliable brand in the world. Over the last 3 years: World manufacturer of the year for the last 2 years AND for the last 3 years, Mazda has had the least amount of recalls and lowest cost of ownership IN THE WORLD! They did have some teething problems, since breaking away from Ford and building their own cars from the chassis up, but lately they have been kicking everyone's ass! The CX5 is the world's best selling SUV - period. If any criticism can be aimed at them, it's that they are a bit under-powered (they sacrificed power for economy and reliability - that's how Toyota made their name remember? Old Toyotas would leave body parts along the road but would start every single time you turned the key...you wouldn't get to your destination first, but you'd get there every single time!) but that's changing slowly with the ALL-MAZDA turbo engines starting to appear. Mazda have always been slow to implement new technologies in their cars (like lane departure, blind-spot monitoring, etc.) but that was to avoid loading the customers with new-technology pricing and to ensure that it was thoroughly tested before it was released. How many times haven't you seen auto makers rush to launch a new feature only to have to make wholesale recalls to fix the numerous quirks that surface? THAT simply doesn't happen with Mazda folks! When you buy a Mazda nowadays, you basically only need to budget for oil-changes and tires - sh*t just doesn't go wrong with them and they're actually a great car to drive. PS: Art in my heart - Mazdas were very Ford-influenced (mechanically) in the past. Mazda have been independent since the latest-body Mazda3, Mazda6 and the launch of the CX5 (about 2013? Not sure).
when honda started to sell cars here in the early 70,s..there vehicles where undependable and the dealer network wasen,t good.many engine problems .lled them to run from canada and stick the dealer network,with these cars that had basic motorcycle engines in them... then comeback in 1984 and heh..we,re respectable company..companies that had problems ,but never ran away,were toyota ,mazda..they made serious attempts at servicing the customer..toyota forever.had many of them and never had a dealer try to dance me around..thanks george shon motors woodbridge ont can on islington ave..
Nathan, Roman... how could you forget the greatest crossover that no one actually cares about, the Ford Flex, way, way better than the Ford Explorer (which shares its D4 architecture), but is flat out whipped in sales by the Explorer?
I just said the same thing horrible reviews. Just goes to show you that these guys here talking don't know much about a vehicle after its lost its new car smell. Same goes for the Mazda lol they are rust buckets and jaguar who the hell wants that garbage when you can get a z06 for way less with double the hp?? And don't get me started on the rest of this stupid list lol
There are like 5 of those cadillac ELR's in my neighborhood i see them everyday and i wonder all the time how there are even so many in my neighborhood.
the reason people don't buy Mazda are because they don't give discounts like other brands do. if you buy a Nissan through USAA which is a military finance conglomerate thing you get like $3000 of your car.
Fast, powerful, good looking, number of sales - these things don't matter to most people. Reliability is number one! Then fuel mileage; eight cylinders just is not needed. Resale value. Lower prices.
Charles Degener Its not really a chevy. Its a holden commodore, Australian made. Ive owned the 2014 sv6 ute version of it for almost 5 years and not had a problem. Ive still got my older 99 commodore, your Pontiac g8 and only had to replace a starter motor and leads on it
I had Chevy Impala older 80's model (remember cop cars?) and loved it. It was rear ended on the highway with my two boys in the back by a truck! and nothing happened to them! I can't imagine if it was flimsy Japanese sedan it would of killed my family.So I love old Chevies!
I have to admit the Kia are nice cars now, but I just can't seem to accept the car name. KIA.... So no matter how good or how long they last I can't because of the damn name. For example. lets say you wanna buy shoes. Jordan's, Nike, Adidas, Puma and then you have Shaq shoes. they are nice, they are cheap and the reality is I just can't seem to want to wear those damn shoes. because of the name....
Carlos Leon let me try to explain better, it's like dating a gorgeous woman, she's perfect in every way but she has a mole the size of a quarter on her face, that you just cannot live with. You can't change it or operate on- the mole is the brand KIA logo. Kia is on the face I just can't live with. Change Kia for anything else and ill take it! Honda, toyota, subaru, buick, nissan, etc.
Carlos Leon hahaha! I'm cynical, shallow, dislike many things and hate people in general. But I'm honest. I ment what I said. She could be perfect but that damn quarter size mole/ logo. I'd prefer a Fiat! I can live with a little mole.
I've had a few Toyotas, and my wife a few Hondas, but we got the CX-9 which is a stunningly phenomenal car. The mechanics rival german sportscars and now their interior is starting to match. I am stunned by the quality and value of the new mazdas.
Ben Chesterman At that price, I would buy one. However, over here it is 10k more expensive than its better looking, better sounding, faster competitor, the Scat Pack Charger.
Got mine 2 months ago with 20% off. Not to mention dealership worked with me and it was only 34-37k in December 17 new. If one exists new on any lot in America, it will be even lower. Chevy just wanted them gone and I made sure to get one when the price was right
The Charger is not half the driver's car the SS is. The SS feels like a 5 series, according to those who have driven it. The Charger feels like a whale. On is really fast in a straight line and one is really fun all the time.
The Mazda 6 is the best in it's segment. Mazda makes a number of cars that stand above most competitors. It usually takes 3 - 5 years to tickle the information into the market. No marketing and no money will change that. People are just that slow. The Holden is a miss from the beginning. It's a try to still sell an outdated platform with a big engine and loudspeakers in the interior to give people emotions of class. We need to skip that kind of nonsense, it's 2017, Holden! The Volkswagen Tuareg is the platform for the fancier variants Porsche Cayenne and Audi Q7. If you can live with lesser fancy status and don't need the huge bulk of the Q7, this is the variant to buy. The Porsche variant also is too small inside. It sells bunches in China but I prefer the original. If you say the Holden (Chevy) is boring but the Kia K900 is simply ugly.
I think of hidden gems as rare, interesting, or cars you see every day, yet didn’t know they existed, such as a 2012 on American market Chevy Captiva, Chevy Trailblazer SS, Chevy HHR SS Turbo, Ford EcoSport, Dodge Caliber, Chrysler Aspen, Etc. You don’t normally think of these or even know the name of them when you see it!
Are you going to do the flip side, "Top 5 Garbage Cars That People for Some Reason Buy?"
They ought too.
Are you talking about prius?
PT cruiser when they came out
Can Savaryego
Personally, no. I recently had a Prius for the first time that I rented on a vacation, and I was pretty pleased with it.
Like the Camry
do top 5 cars everyone buys that aren't good next
How about Corvette, Mustang, Camaro, Cadillac CTS-V and Challenger⁉️ I don't know if people are daft enough to buy these heaps, but they definitely aren't good‼️🙁🙁🙁
+MrKeyboardCommando all cars on the list you noted are great cars expect the challenger.
NOFATCHICK1 That is merely your opinion‼️
+MrKeyboardCommando yeah, but is backed up by facts the camaro SS is an astounding car both on the street and track, the new Ford mustang has a very well built interior & good fuel economy with IMO the best looking muscle car in this class. & the corvette is now the new standard of performance excellence for it's even beating Nissans GTR & the challenger well it's just a whale.
NOFATCHICK1 I disagree with all your assertions, with the exception of the Challenger.
The thing that should be ask is not how good looking these cars are but how reliable they are.
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Keep the video "ON THE PICS" of the cars your talking about... we don't need to keep seeing you-guys talk, when we want to view the car u speak of.
I can totally agree regarding the Mazda 6. We just turned in one that we were leasing, and I found it to be a great car.
Mazda 6 on this list is a crying shame. I agree that it's so much better-looking, and by all accounts it drives better than the competition. Here's hoping for a new Mazdaspeed 6!
...And it's unreliable.
I find that surprising...
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It's better than a Volkswagen Passat, but that's not saying much.
Bummer.
They need to get either a turbo 4 in it or a V6 so it can compete with all the more powerful models from the other brands.
I would put the Acura RLX on this list. Great car,but it just doesn't sell.
I think it's one of the best looking cars today.
+Zihao Fan I love the way it looks.
+Zihao Fan Maybe it is. The way I see it,the RLX has all wheel steering,rides a lot nicer, much better interior quality,more powerful,more comfortable,a bit bigger.
yep
+Zihao Fan it isn't accord based
The f type is one of my dream cars
One of my friend driving one
Good luck sending it to service every other month until the warranty expire and you couldn't wait to sell it off to the next unlucky soul
My science teacher has one
cococly That might be the case, the AC on my friend's car stopped working and he has sent the car to service 3 times
Must have bought it for the Physics aspect!
Is the Chevy SS didn't start at $42K than it would sell better. You can get a BMW 5 series for around that price or even a nice Benz or Lexus sedan
well....the ss has a v8, you can't get a M5 for 42K (New that is) . Lexus dosent make a real competitor (rip ISF). 4 four AMG Mercedes C, E, and S classes are way to expensive and risky. I just wished there were cheap small v8 sedans available
The problem with the SS is that it looks like a Malibu.
you gotta drive it!! it rips
Carledward James The SS looks nothing like the Malibu It is a Aussie Holden Commodore as with a Chevrolet bow tie .. Great underrated car....
My little brother bought a 2017 SS with the 6 speed stick and it hauls! Holden pirated away 2 BMW engineers who worked on the BMW E39 M5 and they helped to turn this thing into a serious competitor next to that Bimmer. I drove it for about 40 miles through the Marin County coast hills and those narrow little ridge-line roads, and this thing is a blast to drive hard. My regular driver is a 2001 BMW 330xi 5-speed manual. It doesn't have the straight line power but it'll run right with that SS on the back roads. Chevy has nothing to apologize for with this SS. It is a serious drivers car... maybe we just don't have enough serious drivers in the market???
Apparently a lot of guys like you who only buy cars with their genitals only care about how fast it goes. That is so immature. Things like reliability, service contract, features are important to smart people who can afford to buy cars. Who gives a capybara's ass how fast it goes when we are sitting in Los Angeles traffic?
I think the back of the Cadillac ELR looks like a prius
Car Enthusiast lol true
Then good for the prius
Lol your right 😂😂
hahaha
Damn indeed...
Kia K900. "It should be a Buick!"
Why, so they could sell even less of them?
No, because the brand name Buick fits the K900 better than Kia does.
You're right, maybe make it a lincoln or a volvo or a hyundai, cars people would really buy.
+BlueLizard87 People don't buy Lincoln's, when was the last time you saw a new one? Ditto Cadillac. That 2 door is insanely priced. Cadillac will never command those kind of luxury prices, those days are over.
Love the K900! Huge Value Proposition! Also love the Lincoln MKZ. Much better fit and finish than cars costing $10K-$25K more!
Both are great Certified Used deals!
MacPro8CoreMan yeah its an amaxing truck
I think volkswagen shot themselves in the foot by making the earlier touaregs of low quality and poor reliability. Earlier Touareg owners were even scared away from the volkswagen brand altogether because the vehicle had too many maintenance problems for a vehicle in that price range.
Volkswagen cars have had expensive repair problems for years. Nothing new with VW. Fahrvergnugen? Yes. Repariervergnugen? No.
Volkswagen subsidiary partner, Skoda, Czech, is remarkably reliable though. Too bad, Skoda is not sold in North America.
***** That might be changing soon apparently
KYDashcam and the fact that Volkswagens are too expensive to fix for cars driven by middle class drivers.
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Hahaahah all those cars won’t last after the 100 to 150 thousand miles, when you can get a Camry that will last over well over 300 thousand miles, and keep going.
so with this opinion you know why, we the people don’t get that stupid chip cars, Japanese are great making car and good engineer on them... so here you have Ford, General motors, chevy, Kia, get better at making car that will last a long time son of a gun.....!!!
I had 2008 Avalon basically Camry and after 150k things started to fall apart.Engine light sensor buried deep in the engine lots of labor to change.door windows front failed to close,suspension sagged dramatically,started engine needed to be replaced I basically donated the car instead wasting more money on it. Anyway this is my experience yours could be different
Carlos Vasquez yeah I was really surprised they are mostly crap cars
In Australia the SS is a better car than a 300c must be made in Mexico. HSV spec SS are sex on wheels in Australia and the cops use them. All yank cars are just pure rubbish now ie FIAT Chrysler
wagons, i personally love wagons myself but i never see them offered here and if they are they never sell usually compared to their useless sedan versions. only one i see really is subaru outback, golf sportwagon and some other german wagons. meanwhile in europe they get wagon everything and they sell so well
VW Touareg "is basically Porsche Cayenne". Have you been asleep for the past 10 years? It's the Cayenne that built on the Touareg platform, not... ah, whatever. American know about cars as much as dogs know about knitting.
Fiat 500 Abarth, legit pocket rocket
I agree. The Abarth is a great car yet underestimated.
the 500 has a high center of gravity, if pushed (i.e. on track) it rolls too happily. and here in Italy i can think of better cars i could buy with less money, (both categories: small sportycars or cars to get noticed).
+Matteo Bandera (Teoflag)
A Fiat 500 (at least speaking of the 500 Sport and Abarth 500 since I've owned both) doesn't roll remotely like most other cars. My Abarth rolls less than an Impreza WRX STI.. I've done things in my Abarth where I I tell myself "I shouldn't be able to be doing this in a subcompact" . And mine doesn't even have a stabilizer bar or strut bar. The only bad I can nitpick about my Abarth personally is the doors squeak, it eats sparkplugs and tires every 25-30k. And the last 2 are probably my fault. lol
Own one of these. It's the most fun I've had driving cars and I've driven cars from Honda Civics to Porsche Carreras 4s.
If you're taking a 500 to the track, you bought the wrong car. It's much more fun to drive on the street. Especially when people are trying to figure out which car is making that sweet exhaust noise.
Hyundai Genesis. People should get them now while they're sold at Hyundai... Theyre such a beautiful car and great for the price!
i am with you there, they did great with the exterior styling (though the interior is a bit meh) but it looks great
It's a great car. I would buy one, hands down. Everyone I've talked too that owns one loves it.
they have come leaps and bounds over what they used to be, though a nice lacrosse has a nicer interior and ride, but i do like the design of the Hyundai more.
Phenomenal cars with an economy brand doesn't sell. Remember the Volkswagen Phaeton?
+Tanah Merah the pheaton was just trash, reliability was terrible
I have worked on every one of these cars they talked about and I wouldn't own any of them! They are hard to work on, parts are pricey or hard to get, they are unreliable and resale is terrible except for the VW and it is the best of the five but still not easy to work on.
I visited Mazda dealer 3 times to try to buy a Mazda 6. The dealer was rude! I left Mazda dealer and bought a Honda Accord next door immediately.
Well your an idiot
The Chevy SS has typical BORING Chevrolet styling. Who’s going to buy a muscle car with no distinguishing style features?
my Honda dealership has a Mazda dealership next to it too
I love it when people say "Your an idiot." Always seem to see this, too. :)
Royce Smart that's ironic considering your spelling
A vette costs half of what an F type costs, the F type is in Porsche 911 territory price wise. You can get a Z06 vette for the typical out the door price of a V6 F type and a well equipped Stingray for less than the absolute base price of an F type. Plus there is probably over 100 Chevy dealers for every Jag dealer.
That's correct I've never been a vette fan but I do have to admit the new z06 is gorgeous and it actually the best bang for dollar as we speak
There's a reason for the price difference, just depends if you understand why.
jaguar is not lambo not Ferrari not Porsche.. not even bmw or mercedes... if that is what you are trying to say.. jaguar is not that good ....
Out of all the German cars I've driven the Jaguar is actually the best handling car and one of the most fun to drive. And the new corvettes are getting quite common actually. A Jaguar is just something special... It isn't as luxurious as a Mercedes or as fast as a z06 but the drive and the character makes up for that and so much more.
+Khalid Carrillo did you call the Jaguar a German car?
People buy the Camry, Accord, Fusion over the Mazda 6 because that segment is for people that follow the status quo and drive appliances.
More realistic answer is, Mazda doesn't have enough money to market their cars right in the states. They're killing it in here I'm australia. And they're great drivers cars.
+OfficialMINIm so I don't get it. hope don't they have enough money for market? I seen a lot of Mazdas. they're nice cars
+prettyrickyd47 mazdas are good looking, reliable and drive well. They have no fault in in their products but compared to other Japanese companies like Toyota, Honda and Nissan it's a small player. They have less resources to play with when it comes to promoting and marketing their products. There are less dealerships to begin with in the states that is. Like I said where I'm from in Australia they're killing it
+OfficialMINIm
Nah, the realistic answer to why the 6 doesn't sell as well as the Camry, Accord, and Fusion is because the 6 isn't a Camry, Accord, or Fusion.
The people buying them do so because they're safe, boring cars for safe, boring people. Mom or Dad wants something "sporty" to go with their Sienna or Odyssey so they head on down to the dealer and say things like "oooh, this one has two exhausts" or "honey, should we go crazy and get the black leather instead of tan?"
that segment is about reliability. it took 20 years for honda and toyota to build that rep. mazda isnt there yet
Mazda is just poor at marketing. Good Marketing is a part of why Hyundai is has grown so fast.
Mazda's always rust out on the rear wheel wells, this has been a problem for the last 20 years.
promotion and 0% finance can sell you anything. also, hyundai put a lot of gadget in their car. you can get a accent equip like a 35k car for 17-18k (cnd speaking). just so happen i shop for mazda 3/ elantra gt 4 month ago. i end up with a use 2013 impreza wagon sport. so much better for less.
+Nigel Saunders i've shop mazda in 2004....they say they fix the problem. i've shop mazda in 2008, they say they have fixed the problem, same in 2011, and again in 2016 . will they ever?
Hyundai backs their products up with a credible warranty as well.
+John MacDougall true, but for some reason the waranty is not the same in canada. 5 years/100 000km if i'm correct.
Mazda +1
My last three vehicles have been Mazdas!
Currently driving a 2013 Mazda 3, manual trans with SkyActiv engine.
Before that, I owned two Mazda Proteges. Ran both of those over 100k mi
with almost no problems. Years down the line, my next vehicle will most
likely be a Mazda.
I work in the car business and I see which vehicles are consistently problematic.
Mazda is definitely not one of them!
I had a Mazda MPV and the doors began to rust out while under warranty. The gas tank and brake lines rusted out, both needing replacement. I had to have a lot of panel metal cut out and replaced due to rust. I’ll never buy another Mazda, as best I can’t tell their cars are made of scrap tin.
David B There no problems because there not being driven
I owned a 2001 626 brought it New. The worst car I’ve ever owned.
I owned a previa that went 984k miles, corolla that did 423k miles, camry 525k miles,
100k miles in a mazda and proud of it is definitely a reason I’d never buy one.. that’s not even broken in on an old Toyota
yeah that SS is overlooked cause it looks like friggin full size Chevy Cruze....
Closer to a Malibu than anything
demariojason it's too expensive and too slow when compared to the charger 392.
demariojason I agree
...and costs $46K, close to a Vette price...
Ryan Maiese close to same speed. Read the track reviews. Destroyed the charger on the track. 4.5 vs 4.7 0-60. Not a big difference
Mazda may make a good car but the dealerships are jerks.
surprisingly all of these cars are big hitters in saudi arabia.
They have taste and know a good deal when they see one.
Also, because Americans are just way too practical. "Oh, let's buy a Camry over a Mazda 6 even though the Camry has no interior or looks. It will last 20 000 to 50 000 miles more than the Mazda, though and we appreciate that, because we are cheap fucks."
But LeBron drives the K900 everyday
lol
You believe that.
Yeah, just how Tiger Woods drives a Buick, and Matthew MacConaughey drives a Lincoln every day lol.
+Elliott Manning lol
They were driving those cars before they got paid to drive them. Or at least Matthew was.... ;)
I don't think the Touareg ($49K) competes with the Ford Edge ($28K). I think it competes, based on price and size, with the Lexus RX ($43K), Land Rover Evoque ($41K), Jaguar F-Pace ($41K) and the Mercedes GLE ($52). The problem is that journalist want to put the Touareg against Edges, Grand Cherokees and other $30K SUVs which hurt the Touareg's premium image.
Well said, Touareg is a machine that is not built for the "average consumer". When you look at what it gives for the money, its clear. They dont advertise 8000 lbs towing capacity, 7l/100km fuel consumption, over 400 lbs/ft torque.
Only need one vehicle, this one, not one for the work days and one for the holidays... it does everything extremely well. Everything.
The Touareg is a premium car from an everyday-car company, it can’t compete with Fords (for example) because it’s too expensive, and can’t compete with premium brands because of the company it comes from
The word has been out about how unreliable VW's are. Not many consumers are willing to chance $50k on a vehicle that will likely have poor reliability and high maintenance cost.
Brock Walters well said.
Touareg is an absolutely amazing vehicle. Tows anything, off road is amazing, gas mileage 24mpg at 80mph consistantly. V10 diesel, loads of torque, quiet, very comfortable.
Mazda 6 is one of the best choices on the market right now. it pretty much has it all for a very affordable price.
I think the Mazda 6 can't compete due to lack of cylinders, and power.
Mazda6's are EXCELLENT cars. Compared to the 4 cylinder Ford Fusion, Honda Accord, and Toyota Camry, it definatley outshines them in style and is just fun to drive. I have a 2011 V6 Mazda6 and I absolutely love it. My only gripe is that they don't make a V6 anymore or a I4 with a turbo. ZOOM ZOOM
2018 Mazda6 will have the 2.5L turbo engine, not sure if it will be offered in a manual shift or not
yeah the K900 is a real sleeper....folks just can't prevent themselves from being stuck in yesteryear...Kia is doing a crackin job nowadays.
but the other issue is the Genesis, which is arguably better and a little cheaper.
Most people are dull. They don't want a product that will actually make them happy. They want to LOOK cool, not actually BE cool.
Saw the Chevy SS on dealer lots but never on the streets. Or if I did I didn’t notice it. Styling is so old. Reminds me of the last Pontiac.
Offthbadan It's the same car !!! Guy ... Both the Chevrolet SS and Pontiac G8 are rebadged Holden Commodores that was manufactured in Australia. And the styling is subdued but very nice probably due to insurance reasons also to the fact that it has a de tune Corvette engine
KIA K900, $49,000 seriously? I am going to put down almost $50K on a KIA? a used 2015, one year old, lost almost $12K in value at the same dealership. It maybe nice but that's just too much.
U gotta look beyond the badge. They sell cars for all types of buyers now. Broaden your mind
You guys sound like slimy fast talking used car salesmen. EVERYTHING made today is so complex and parts so expensive that only factory techs can fix them. That guarantees planned obsolescence and rapid depreciation. You should be slamming the industry and advocating a return to simplicity. I lament the days (late '60-early '70's) when one could order an Impala in one of 23 colors, tutones, 10 interior colors, 8 different engine choices. I have '64 Chevy I drive every day..parts dirt cheap and I can fix anything that fails under my shade tree. Today you have a choice of what ?, half a dozen colors and a choice of gray or gray interiors? You guys celebrate the mediocrity that you grew up with. What truly great cars we could have if the bean counters hadn't over ruled the engineers. The automotive press is complicit in leading the flock of sheep who are clueless as to what a really great car should be.
BTW...who was the genius that put the fuel pump in the gas tank?
Thank god they don't build cars like they used to. You're living in nostalgia, looking through the rose colored glasses of your youth. Cars nowadays are more comfortable, more consumer oriented, create less emissions, safer and far more reliable. "KISS" is a great modo to follow... just not always when it comes to automotive engineering. I do COMPLETELY agree that the romance of owning a car isn't what it used to be. Times change though.
There is no doubt that modern vehicles are more comfortable, durable,safe. That progress is commendable and desirable and would be compatible with a natural progression of development. There is no conflict with my statement above. My gripe is consumers are channeled into buy vehicles that offer a minimum of choices and forced to purchase what used to be options. The more conveniences (pw, pl, a/c, keyless, anti-lock, and soon driverless,etc.) the greater complexity and consumer dissatisfaction with the vehicle when these systems fail. (Leading to otherwise unnecessary purchase of new vehicles). Over complex and failure prone engine control and emissions control add major repair expense. The technology exists to greatly improve mileage and cut emissions without "modern" complexity if the engineers are cut loose. Alcohol or other fuels have the potential to cut emissions to near zero. Get government regulation off the back of the auto industry and miracles can happen. In closing I can't tell the car brand without looking at the badge. I remember when Jr. Johnson was driving a Chevy and Richard Petty drove a Plymouth. Genuine factory competition was good for the development of better cars.
That not lasting in cold climates is due to corrosion by use of salt on the roads. (still a serious issue even with new vehicles..up here in WNY 5 year old cars are turning to rust buckets) Any mechanical issues are easily and cheaply addressed. My '64 Chevy came from SC..not a spot of rust.
Offering such a huge variety of colors would result in an MSRP jump several hundred dollars across the board. Call me frugal, I'd much rather save the few hundred bucks and have an average looking car. This is coming from someone that drives a cherry red Ram. The automobile isn't what it used to be. You're no longer defined as much by the car you drive. They're primarily viewed as utilities nowadays. I wouldn't say that's a bad change unless you're a car enthusiast. Culture changes. The industry has responded to that change.
Is the camera guy drunk?? Center the scene!!
The Mazda is underpowered to me. If they would offer a v6 or even a turbo it may do better on the market.
Yes, that's pretty much their whole lineup now. Too much Skyactive, not enough zoom-zoom.
+Sean Hodkiewicz yea people don't understand the high compression and engine design and just look at raw numbers, the SkyActiv mazdas drive GREAT
I don't need to drive a Mazda 6 to know that it's slow. The best thing you can say about it is that it's good for a 4 cylinder, when compared to other 4 cylinders in the class. If your other option is a 4 cylinder Camry, then absolutely get the Mazda 6 instead. However, no, a 4 cylinder sedan with no turbo isn't going to light my fires.
I stand by my opinion that Mazdas need more powerful options across the range. Probably the only one with decent performance is the Miata, and I don't want one of those for other reasons.
they need to reintroduce the Mazdaspeed 6
+Gewdvibes I agree. I have one and it punches above its weight class.
Just buy a vehicle that looks good? No thank you. I prefer to drive a reliable vehicle that also looks good and holds its value. To each their own, but this is hardly great car buying advise.
The Mazda 6 first generation leave a bad taste in so many people's mouth nobody's looking at his new ones the first gen was a gas guzzler and that loud High revving engine, and the Chevy SS just don't look fast it look like a oversized Cruise Volkswagen Touareg beat your pockets at the dealer for maintenance and the part is expensive
The SS is a horrible name. SS suggests that it is a variant of some other car. Name it the Scorpion or the Thunderstorm or something, who knew it was a completely unique different car. As for the K900 the name is indeed horrible, the letter K in the US means cheap... K-Mart, K-Car, K-12 (kindergarten), as mentioned K-9, but I think Kia (another K that doesnt really work) is doing what its big brother did, Hyundai, eat it for years on a high end car, which will pull the entire line up... oh well... anyone remember the fantastic Kia Borrega? Full size SUV with a V8 directly from the Genesis... too bad.
They should have called it a Chevelle and bring the UTE version here as well as well.
The crazy thing is that GM is selling exactly as many SS models as it planned to. It was never meant to be volume seller. I think the SS nameplate suites it fine... If anything call it a Impala SS (Throwing back to the B-body). The can't do that, because the Impala is their high end sedan, and people shopping for those don't care about performance.
Don't forget the wagon!
And piss off the purists who are still pissed that the Charger came back as a sedan?
Why not? Classic chevelle could come in many different bodystyles! Including sedan and wagon. It would arguably be best traumatising for a modern Chevelle sedan or wagon unlike the I like the charger and which only came in a coupe back in the seventies
You guys don't talk about reliability.
Clifford Correa because there is NONE
All the cars these guys mentioned have very obvious and apparent reasons why it's not selling.
@@dmlagrangeAmerican tramnys are terrible
Yes the most important thing, they don't talk about, because that is the most expensive thing for car companies to include into the manufacturing process of their cars. It means over the years you will spend less on parts and cars if your car is reliable. Most people can see through buffoons b.s. like these clowns you see in this video
@@digitalkov and those are?
Scotty Kilmer has good advice about car quality.
Rev up your engines!
REV
PENIS
oilhammer04 ho
His three favorite cars... TOYOTA TOYOTA TOYOTA.
I love the Ford 500, Taurus and the older mercury line. These cars are fords big sellers and if you take care of them they will give you years of service and comfort.
Wow! I love all those cars. I am getting an ELR as my commuter car at the end of the year (hopefully). But I looked at and highly considered the SS and Mazda.
Now do a list on terrible cars that way too many people buy
Hot Cosby kia soul?
Hot Cosby: Honda Accord.
F150 and Rams.
Heard VERY negative things about almost ALL compact Chevys ever made... Cruze... Sonic... Cobalt... all lacking in the cost & long term reliability department...
Chrysler PT Cruiser
mazda 6 is such a great car
Mazda 6 is huge in Australia and outsells the others you mentioned.
honorable mention: Ford Flex. 2018 will be it's last year. My wife and I love this vehicle. Better ride than the explorer imo, just looks like a hearse. Plenty of space.
You guys are great, straight to the point, no douchebaggery👍🏼
chevy ss is very expensive thats way it does not sale
How expensive?
Abhinav Mehra about 50k for base
+dennis bryan yup that's too expensive for a car that looks like that
Abhinav Mehra looks fine sounds great, same price as a vette yikes i'll stay with my f bodies
Yup I agree. That's what happens when you import and re brand a car from an island across the planet that used to be a penal colony. Huge import fees. That and even though I live the idea of a full size rear drive v8 sedan ; Americans don't buy them anymore for some reason.
There's a very good reason why people aren't buying the ELR. It's a overpriced ugly POS.
It's wiser to just get a Tesla.
the ELR was elegant....the price killed it! Also it would have sold 10x better if it was powered by a gas engine.
Chayzz Devyant The ELR is just like the Chevy Volt. It has a gasoline engine just like the Volt. It's just a fancy Chevy Volt.
Built on the Volt chassis? It'd be like buying a Cimmaron or a Catera.
+ClayPF I owned both. at least the cimarron never stopped running or let me down. the catera was a POS from the start. the volt wasn't that bad of a car, but the non changeable batteries and price ruined both the ELR and Volt. They're not supposed to be fast.
I have a vw touareg an like it lot good car
VW is just boring outside look, even if decent car, it's design never changes and looks old. And exactly who would buy a luxury KIA, it's KIA brand that makes it fail lol
I bought the 2013 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring, first year. Awesome car, handles phenomenal, comfortable to drive, decent MPG. No mechanical issues , at all. The only complaint I would make is the Bose sound system is not really up to par. After driving a Ford Probe the previous 15 years, it was quite a disappointment. No where close to the quality of the Ford sound system. Mechanically, no problems at all. Hard to beat.
The Mazda 6 is a very nice car.
No kidding, j think the fact that there are only a handful used for sale nationwide says alot. I always talk to other mazda owners and that is what mazda needs to show. When you get a 3 5 or 6 you are getting a great car. The 7 and 9 and mazdaspeeds are nice and performed good but require bmw like maintenance. The cx7 is like a poor mans porche. The russian snow video probly sold more cx7's than anything maxfa marketing ever did.
Jess Barnett I should know...I own one
Had a Mazda 6 rental for 1 month. Ran well, but ugly intrusive box on dash. Friend of mine was in the market for a new car at that time and was also turned away because of dash design. Bought an Accord instead.
Top 5 best and most reliable 4x4 suv for under 10k. I think you guys would come with some great lists.
For under 10k? It's really hard to find any SUV within the past 8 years for under 10k. Although, I did find an AWD 2011 Chevy Equinox for 7.5k. The car is nothing special, but worth the price I paid for it.
The only car that deserves to be on this list, at least in my opinion is the Mazda 6. That is an amazing and highly underrated vehicle.
Less than 50 used 7 or less years old for sale nationwide right now. Of those 50 about 10 look to be rental car companies selling the cars because they are outside of factory warranty. I bought mine thos way. It was 100% dealer maintained and i just replaced all the little broken interior parts andbthe steering wheel. 100k miles later the car still drives the same. Only issue is the tpms sensor went out. Bought the cap style and installed them exactly right, kind of glad because i like seeing my tire pressure readout
Gary Lennon yeap you hot it only one on my list my cousin had one no issues ever really good car
Gary Lennon You are so right Gary I own a 2015 Mazda 6 and I love it !!! Fantastic car , In my opinion the most beautiful car ( mid sized) on the market. Great value ,Great reliability ,Great fuel economy Great Looks unfortunately alot of people have overlooked this beauty...sad... people are blind...
I agree, except... the Mazda6 has garnered raves in the automotive press, so... it’s not that it’s “underrated”: rather, it’s under-appreciated by consumers. The whole brand is(!). I never looked at them before 2014, and now... we’re a two-Mazda household. We tested e-v-e-r-y compact sedan out there, and my partner chose to lease a ‘14 ‘3’ (...due to a sweet incentive, he upgraded to a ‘17 last year). In Jan ‘17, I was shopping luxury SUV’s: Volvo XC60, Audi Q5, Q7... until I drove a left-over CX9 ‘Signature’. I Absolutely Love It! Can’t understand why Mazda’s aren’t flying out of the dealerships. Except... U.S. car buyer’s have always seemed to take a strange, herd-like comfort in buying ‘what everyone else is driving’ - regardless of ‘rave reviews’. It’s fascinating. And I admit: I had likewise never considered Mazda... until I finally DROVE one(!). ...And if you haven’t tested one since their ‘divorce’ from Ford, you owe it to yourself to take a turn behind the wheel. OH..., and having driven in my CX-9 several times, my BOSS was so impressed that she bought her first Mazda: a CX-3 (she wanted a compact SUV). I’m telling you... the person who drives one, buys one!
One big problem with the SS is price... they are definitely not worth the $50K that Chevy is trying to get for them.
W Sears if it would've been 30k, they would've sold tons of them.
They are trying to get the price of two on one car sale
The VW Touareg has so many electronic problems. One owner I know has the entire instrument panel went black on him and after changing the panels twice, the problem persisted. He terminated his lease before it ended.
people are no buying the mazda 6 because is a really unreliable car,do you see any 626 on the street?
626 is from ages ago. Ever since mazda went onto the mazda name and numbering they've been a vastly better company. Your point speaks volumes to brand reputation based on their past however its still like saying you bought a product in the 80's from a company that sucked so you wouldnt buy anything from them now. Companies and products change its been ages and obviously if they hadn't improved they'd be out of business by now.
Clesarie people dont trust mazda or mitsubishi,zuzuki,dodge,jaguar,land rover,fiat they have a really dark past of making bad cars
tinleo333 Everyone at some point has mad a shit car. Ford made the pinto etc etc. No companies perfect and great example of what I don't believe what you're saying here makes any difference is because Dodge sells a boat load of vehicles and land rovers while being known as some of the shittest built cars ever still constantly sell. Reliability isn't the most important feature to all buys, especially since in America the average person get a different car every 3 years so says analytical statistics.
Clesarie dodge sells ok in the us only i have a dodge neon 97 worst car i ever own along with the mazda mx6
tinleo333 Eh I can't argue with both those cars being shit boxes, however that still is the past. Also the Dodge Neon was kinda intentionally meant to be a shit box since it was so damn cheap.
But what about resale? if you buy a car that no one is buying will anyone want it when you sell it??? if it doesn't sell new it won't sell used........
Keith Gray. Right you are Keith..
I like the Mazda 6, but bought a Ford Fusion for two reasons. First the Mazda 6 has a 14-1 compression engine which could be a problem if the computer fails or you get a bad tank of gas. The Fusion has a 10-1 compression ration in the base engine which was developed by Ford and Mazda a few years ago. However, if Mazda had a Mazda 6spd I'd be all over it. The Chevy's SS would be a great car, but I think it's priced too high. It looks like a Cruze and the engine alone is not enough reason to attract buyers. Know that it's a Holden makes me curious, if only was affordable. The KIA K900 is also too expensive especially for the person that buys a KIA. KiA buyers are looking for a cheaper car, and no matter how good it is, nobody will believe it's Acura or Infiniti quality. Car prices in general are getting out of hand. I've seen lots of late model Ford Fusions around lately. Clearly people like the looks, and the price lets them own a sporty looking car with lots of space inside for four.
Around 2005, I spoke with a guy who had a Toureg. He described it as "nothing but problems".
The Cadillac ELR was crap. It was a smaller 2 door Chevrolet Volt with a $76,000 MSRP. Not many people wanted it when they updated it with a more powerful engine and lower price either. The Cadillac ELR feels like a decision 1990s GM would have made.
Gee, A Cadillac ELR or a Tesla? ;) Decisions decisions... ;)
The k900 is not selling a lot cause they’re too new for people to get familiar with. And not only the k900 hardly even exist. 9/10 Kia dealerships don’t even own a single k900 cause it’s a rare gem car. Plus Kia already has a car that’s very similar to the k900 which is the genesis. and for Hyundai it’s the equus. K900 is more of a Korean thing than American thing for people to drive.
Hyundai builds the Genesis not Kia. Also the Hyundai Azera is under rated and a good bargain
iLiketigerz101 The K900 is not selling simply because it's labeled a Kia . And it's a Luxury car caught with a non-Luxury car brand name. If it was a Genesis. The car would probably sell well it's almost as well made as a Lexus or Mercedes Benz but about $20.000 cheaper.
I saw a chevy SS for the first time ever this past week and found it uninspiring.
Jerry Dellefemine it's ugly, it looks like something out of gta.
the one and only rusty shakleford ugly really??? That's your opinion...
Here in Australia Mazda are one of the most popular car brands
I just bought a used Mazda 6 cuz it’s great to look at it and it’s great on gas for a full size sedan
The chevy ss is just another Pontiac g8 just with the Chevy nameplate very strong car way better than the challenger in my opinion and the the Ford variant what ever it may be. This list isn't that bad.
The Chevy SS is simply boring looking.
elton john over 400 horses, 4,5 second 0 to 60, quarter mile in the low 13's or high 12's. If you over look the performance for the looks with this car, then it sounds like a optima or fusion is your best bet. Running down some 2 door coupe in a 4000 pound sedan and the look on the drivers face should be enough lmfao
Well, the Chevy SS is just a 2008 Pontiac G8. Since GM killed Pontiac, all they did was literally bring it back under Chevy's name with modern tech, and they haven't changed the design...
Ole Boy the 0-60 is 4.7. The charger 392 scat pack 0-60 is 4.3 with 485 hp and starts at 39k. The SS starts at $47k . I think they actually lowered it, in pretty sure it used to start at $49k.
What??? 😂😂😂😂😂 What u smoking?
King Kodjo nothing the chargers cheaper and faster. Google it.
i like the cadillac elr
I can't believe a corvette is outselling the jaguar f type, the jaguar is brilliant
It is definitely not reliable...
Only true assholes drive jaguars
Lee Francis well it's a sports car so....
Jordie Cairns tata motors owns it now from india
The vet out sells the Jag for the reliability reasons that have already been brought up and also because the Jag costs 3 times as much for parts and labor as the Vet.
I'm buying my first car soon.. and I've been REALLY looking at all the options within my price limit which is around 30K.. I dont want something everybody has like a honda, toyota, nissan, ect..
so the 2017 Mazda 6 is still standing out to me the most.
shall I buy an audi A4 or A5 please suggest 😊
Delya M get audi here with that crap
1. mazda had a long span of unreliable cars that tainted the brand and they haven't really ever recovered sadly. 2. the chevy ss aka pontiac g8 looks more like a ford taurus than the 4d rwd muscle car it can be. 3 Jag has a small market due to its price and lack of dealerships, the car is epic. 4. Nobody wants a rebadged volt. 5. its a vw version of a better car. 6. its a kia.
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Mazda unreliable? Lol, try owner a performance bmw, Mercedes, or Porche. They are so bad there is maintenance you have to get while nothing seems wrong and if you don't do it it can suddenly destroy the car. Ie. All of the above listed automaker coolant pumping and handling systems. Now dipshit gm is going to as well. Ford is turbocharged its cars and nissan has all cvt trannys. I would argue the mazda 3 base and the toyota corrola s type are the only hyper reliable vehicles made in 2017.
Mazda unreliable are you kidding?
Exactly. G8. And that failed. Yet they bring it back?!
Where do people get that Mazda is an unreliable car?! It's actually the most reliable brand in the world. Over the last 3 years: World manufacturer of the year for the last 2 years AND for the last 3 years, Mazda has had the least amount of recalls and lowest cost of ownership IN THE WORLD!
They did have some teething problems, since breaking away from Ford and building their own cars from the chassis up, but lately they have been kicking everyone's ass! The CX5 is the world's best selling SUV - period.
If any criticism can be aimed at them, it's that they are a bit under-powered (they sacrificed power for economy and reliability - that's how Toyota made their name remember? Old Toyotas would leave body parts along the road but would start every single time you turned the key...you wouldn't get to your destination first, but you'd get there every single time!) but that's changing slowly with the ALL-MAZDA turbo engines starting to appear. Mazda have always been slow to implement new technologies in their cars (like lane departure, blind-spot monitoring, etc.) but that was to avoid loading the customers with new-technology pricing and to ensure that it was thoroughly tested before it was released. How many times haven't you seen auto makers rush to launch a new feature only to have to make wholesale recalls to fix the numerous quirks that surface? THAT simply doesn't happen with Mazda folks! When you buy a Mazda nowadays, you basically only need to budget for oil-changes and tires - sh*t just doesn't go wrong with them and they're actually a great car to drive.
PS: Art in my heart - Mazdas were very Ford-influenced (mechanically) in the past. Mazda have been independent since the latest-body Mazda3, Mazda6 and the launch of the CX5 (about 2013? Not sure).
I miss Pontiac :(
Mr Awesome
agree, they should have dumped Buick instead.
David Wittman or leave it the same
After what they did to me sticking me with a lemon g6
, f gm
spoada . you should have bought a g8.
Averco and Holden.
people are more concern about resale value & reliability
when honda started to sell cars here in the early 70,s..there vehicles where undependable and the dealer network wasen,t good.many engine problems .lled them to run from canada and stick the dealer network,with these cars that had basic motorcycle engines in them... then comeback in 1984 and heh..we,re respectable company..companies that had problems ,but never ran away,were toyota ,mazda..they made serious attempts at servicing the customer..toyota forever.had many of them and never had a dealer try to dance me around..thanks george shon motors woodbridge ont can on islington ave..
Nathan, Roman... how could you forget the greatest crossover that no one actually cares about, the Ford Flex, way, way better than the Ford Explorer (which shares its D4 architecture), but is flat out whipped in sales by the Explorer?
I'd buy all of them I just don't have the money. 🙌
chevy ss, 2 exspesive for its dull looks! love to own one!!!
Yeah but the Volkswagen Toureg is EXTREMELY unreliable.
Volkswagen anything, Mazda anything, and Jaguar anything is unreliable.
I just said the same thing horrible reviews. Just goes to show you that these guys here talking don't know much about a vehicle after its lost its new car smell. Same goes for the Mazda lol they are rust buckets and jaguar who the hell wants that garbage when you can get a z06 for way less with double the hp?? And don't get me started on the rest of this stupid list lol
extremely expensive
+Legacy Turbo you must be a bad ass in real life
+freddy santiago lol what makes you say that ???
There are like 5 of those cadillac ELR's in my neighborhood i see them everyday and i wonder all the time how there are even so many in my neighborhood.
When america car makers decied to build cars that match the japanese we will always fall short
These are all luxury cars (except the mazda) are over priced and don't really offer anything special, of course they aren't selling.
the reason people don't buy Mazda are because they don't give discounts like other brands do. if you buy a Nissan through USAA which is a military finance conglomerate thing you get like $3000 of your car.
They are offering $1,500 rebate right now. Not huge but at least it's something:) Hopefully they will keep doing things like that.
Noone buys 370z but they are great, solid, sports cars.
***** I neglected to do my research, they actually sell a healthy 7500 a year. They aren't common though, i'll usually see one or two a week.
***** It's lighter and has more horsepower, what more did you want from it?
lol Cause they suck ass that's why nobody buys them
+billy heaton Can you tell me how they suck?
+shawno009 You can take off traction control and the thing is like glue around corners. I fail to see your issue
Fast, powerful, good looking, number of sales - these things don't matter to most people. Reliability is number one! Then fuel mileage; eight cylinders just is not needed. Resale value. Lower prices.
Nobody’s buying a Chevy SS because like all Chevys they are total garbage! Everyone I ever owned had to be junked before I even paid off
Charles Degener Its not really a chevy. Its a holden commodore, Australian made. Ive owned the 2014 sv6 ute version of it for almost 5 years and not had a problem. Ive still got my older 99 commodore, your Pontiac g8 and only had to replace a starter motor and leads on it
I had Chevy Impala older 80's model (remember cop cars?) and loved it. It was rear ended on the highway with my two boys in the back by a truck! and nothing happened to them! I can't imagine if it was flimsy Japanese sedan it would of killed my family.So I love old Chevies!
Mazda 6 simply blows away the accord and Camry, it's way better than both those cars
The Cayenne is based on the Touareg..
I have to admit the Kia are nice cars now, but I just can't seem to accept the car name. KIA....
So no matter how good or how long they last I can't because of the damn name. For example.
lets say you wanna buy shoes.
Jordan's, Nike, Adidas, Puma and then you have Shaq shoes. they are nice, they are cheap and the reality is I just can't seem to want to wear those damn shoes. because of the name....
Rick Dias your problem when you put too much importance on the brand names. I disregard them completely. If a product has quality, i get it.
Carlos Leon let me try to explain better, it's like dating a gorgeous woman, she's perfect in every way but she has a mole the size of a quarter on her face, that you just cannot live with. You can't change it or operate on- the mole is the brand KIA logo. Kia is on the face I just can't live with. Change Kia for anything else and ill take it! Honda, toyota, subaru, buick, nissan, etc.
Rick Dias just proves you're super shallow when you can't see past her mole/ kia logo. She could be the love of your life.
Carlos Leon hahaha!
I'm cynical, shallow, dislike many things and hate people in general. But I'm honest. I ment what I said. She could be perfect but that damn quarter size mole/ logo. I'd prefer a Fiat! I can live with a little mole.
Carlos Leon liar
I've had a few Toyotas, and my wife a few Hondas, but we got the CX-9 which is a stunningly phenomenal car. The mechanics rival german sportscars and now their interior is starting to match. I am stunned by the quality and value of the new mazdas.
The chevy ss is a copy write of the Holden ss!!!🤔🤔🤔
i want the Chevy SS really bad, but it's $45,000 USD
GM has been running 20% off discounts. Can get one for mid to upper 30's.
34000 usd in Australia
Ben Chesterman At that price, I would buy one. However, over here it is 10k more expensive than its better looking, better sounding, faster competitor, the Scat Pack Charger.
Got mine 2 months ago with 20% off. Not to mention dealership worked with me and it was only 34-37k in December 17 new. If one exists new on any lot in America, it will be even lower. Chevy just wanted them gone and I made sure to get one when the price was right
@@ralphl5441 Probably still too expensive
Why buy a SS when you can buy a SRT charger for cheaper.
true 👍
The Charger is not half the driver's car the SS is. The SS feels like a 5 series, according to those who have driven it. The Charger feels like a whale. On is really fast in a straight line and one is really fun all the time.
Because manual and one of the best suspension on the market.
Yea, but looks like a Malibu at least the charger looks like a proper muscle car in SRT forms.
charger all the way.
The K900 interior looks really great but
It's still a fucking kia
The Mazda 6 is the best in it's segment. Mazda makes a number of cars that stand above most competitors. It usually takes 3 - 5 years to tickle the information into the market. No marketing and no money will change that. People are just that slow.
The Holden is a miss from the beginning. It's a try to still sell an outdated platform with a big engine and loudspeakers in the interior to give people emotions of class. We need to skip that kind of nonsense, it's 2017, Holden!
The Volkswagen Tuareg is the platform for the fancier variants Porsche Cayenne and Audi Q7. If you can live with lesser fancy status and don't need the huge bulk of the Q7, this is the variant to buy. The Porsche variant also is too small inside. It sells bunches in China but I prefer the original.
If you say the Holden (Chevy) is boring but the Kia K900 is simply ugly.
I think of hidden gems as rare, interesting, or cars you see every day, yet didn’t know they existed, such as a 2012 on American market Chevy Captiva, Chevy Trailblazer SS, Chevy HHR SS Turbo, Ford EcoSport, Dodge Caliber, Chrysler Aspen, Etc. You don’t normally think of these or even know the name of them when you see it!