I have watched a lot of your GEARS videos, but this one has to be in the top 3 for me. Something about watching that straight line center-pelvis motion just clicked for me. This is the best instruction on TH-cam.
Great work every week guys. Presenting REAL DATA rather than perceptions and opinions , and de-bunking much of the misinformation that we are subjected to. Keep up the excellent podcasts and the PRO / AM research.
@@AthleticMotionGolf I'd love to see a video on right hip depth and right leg extension on the back swing. Also maintaining tush line on downswing. Thanks!
Having been a playing professional and then turned teaching the game ( and swing ) for 30+ years this is by far the best I’ve seen over that time. Have been national coach 10 years. worked with very good juniors. Was always curious and looking for more and more detailed information to be able to help advanced players. Now with 52 I’ll get info I was looking for for years. Thanks for all the work you put in and the sharing of the information. Keep up your fantastic work 🙏👍
As always sterling content from you. I love your channel! The greatest thing is you have the science and the models behind it from AMs and Pros - there's a lot of conflicting stuff on the web but you put all that to bed!
Y’all really nailed it with this one. It addresses low point & dynamic loft all in one video. I’ve struggled with low point because I was told to push late. Now I know this is a faulty for most golfers. Y’all are the 🐐 of golf teaching. That was why I joined your site.
Gr8 video. If I am not straight but I am compressing I always check my hand path/height.... too close to my body & low produces a left shot (PULL DRAW HOOK)... too far away from body & high produces block/fade/shank. I love the gears thing... puts a picture in my head ... allows me to trust the knowledge still knowing there are lots of slight individual differences due to physical differences. Thanks guys
Hey guys... hands down the best instruction I've implemented for my game in years. My nemesis? 60 yds and in. Hoping you cover this one day. Also, you mentioned in this video a link to purchasing the balance board. Couldn't find it. Would love to get it! ⛳
I posted the link but it got deleted, maybe that's no longer allowed. It's called the "Sheftic Pressure board". I think AMG noted at checkout gets a discount
im not sure if you guys are still answering comments on this video just wanted to confirm when the pro turns and moves forward 5-6inches laterally is alot. in previous videos you say not to move more than a fist forward laterally but 5-6inchs would be around two fists is that how much we should be rotating anf moving forward on the down swing?
Another fantastic video from you both , can you do a gears video on how pros use their pelvis and turn on partial wedge shots , 75 , 50 and 25 yards please , is it the same shift turn shift turn as the full swing ? Many thanks for all you do for us golfers 👍
I grew up playing hockey lefty, but golf right. Always struggled with a too-stiff golf swing. In hockey a shot is much more fluid. The combination of rotation and sway is key and natural. I've realized bringing that feeling to golf felt more natural. Great video as always.
This is precisely what I was working on today. Finding one’s tempo suitable to keep this all in sequence while achieving the highest efficiency is the key. And being repeatable. The secret sauce is staying on the wall. Without it all hell breaks loose. It’s nice to have this down, and having you guys go over the most important aspects of the swing on a regular basis. Best channel. Thanks
You guys have helped me so much. Just improving my grip, setup, takeaway, and right arm in the backswing, I was able to have the best ball striking round of my life recently. The downswing has never felt easier, now that I'm making a quality backswing. Fat shots are now nonexistent. I used to hook regularly, and I haven't seen one in weeks. It's incredible. In a recent round I shot 71, with 32 putts. I made almost nothing, and could not have cared less, lol. You just can't put a price on repeatable, well struck, controlled golf shots. With some better putting, I'm hopeful that my best round of 69 will be broken very soon. Maybe later today? ;) I'll keep watching the videos, doing the drills, and working to improve any way that I can. Thanks so much, for making the game feel easy and fun again.
Yet another outstanding video guys. Without question, no other site on TH-cam provides this level of detail and understanding of what should happen in a good golf swing. Also thanks for introducing the Sheftic Pressure Board. This aid can be a game changer for many of us amateurs to help learn the magical “Re-Centering Move”.
Love this video! Really helped me to visualize weight shift with hip rotation. Do you guys have any good videos for improving shaft angle through the downswing?
Good work guys...but recognizing that it is just a drill...I find that when I "fall" left my head still gets ahead of the ball...what do you recommend to keep heep back or does it go forward and then back due to right side tilt? Thx
Good and helpful video reinforcing earlier videos on shaft lean and the magic move in golf. Question/request: The first golfer's pelvis movement is about 1" back and then 5" forward from starting point (6" total). Could you give us the numbers on his chest and head? I know they're connected, but I'm assuming the chest lateral motion is a bit smaller and the head's even less, especially at impact. Thanks.
I was wondering when the magic bullet of wisdom (see time index 11:30) about the face being open / you get the impact-flip you need to square the club nugget of truth was going to be mentioned. I still remember a previous video when you pointed out that one of the absolute biggest differences between Pro & AM swings was how quickly and how violently Pros put twisting torque on the handle, at the very top of the downswing, versus AMs, to square the club. That video changed my golfing life.
Guys this has fixed so many annoying issues I could not resolve -Thankyou. I have been constantly instructed to not slide instead of how to slide correctly. Question - does the driver ‘slide’ change ?
I am loving your weight shift, foot pressure, and magic backswing move videos. I feel really loose! Do you have a video that talks about footwork/weight shift/lateral movement with less than full swings? Like maybe a 45yard pitch where you take it back just a little further than club parallel to the ground? 🤔 Wondering if there is any pressure shift or if you just hang out on your front foot. Thanks 😀
I would like to see the bottom of that board to make me one. Also the gear video was eye opening thanks for teaching us new ways to think about a proper swing guys.
Once again great info from my favorite TH-cam channel! My swing is already perfect thanks to you guys (lies). So I’m helping my 13yo with his concept of motion. When he makes his first milli I won’t forget about y’all
Why bowing of wrist don’t work with what you just mentioned in this video? Yes rotation is essential but I thought compression has a lot to do with both wrist angles in back swing and downswing .. can you guys please explain ? Thanks!
Another great video fellas. I always found, with my students, that (for a right handed player) the image of dealing a playing card with your left hand was a good way to explain the movement of the left hand in squaring the clubface, up to and through impact. Keep up the great work. I learn something new almost all the time through the insight of the gears program, and that's after 43 years as an Australian PGA pro. "New tricks" eh?
Is the knuckle down move essential for compression and tour like dynamic loft? Or if I have similar amount of shaft lean at impact with a stronger grip to square the face, will that achieve same results? Thank you!
Great info as always. I have watched and studied all of your tips and lessons. One question: Shaun says to rotate around lead leg and hip in this video. I thought they moved up and back with rotation more around the spine. Have I an incorrect interpretation? jrdossmd
I wish this stuff was around when I was in school, AMG Pro vs Ams helped me finally consistently get back to scratch and breaking par without having to crazily rely on scrambling. My stats for a typical 6600 yard course went from 4 GIR to 15, fairways hit from 6 to 12, and have added about 20 yards carry to my driver by consistently finding the center of the club face more often (245 to 265).
@@AthleticMotionGolf hand position in the downswing. One of the things I noticed was that your tour pros almost always swing back through the impact zone exactly where they started, though obviously with shaft leans applied via rotation. This was a lightbulb moment because during setup I would set the distance via a handle raise for width, then settle into position, by lowering the handle I was able to get the correct distance from the golf ball, set up with correct shoulder tilt and hip open. The other thing that helped was seeing that your prod moved their pelvis back to load up, and that they applied both a rotation and slide forward that was still inside the “frame” of the feet, one of my biggest issues besides handle lifting was sliding and not turning and uncoiling into the front leg. All in all this moved my contact from high toe and a straight push with some draw into a basically straight shot. So I picked up about 1.5 clubs in distance, tightened up my irons, and got a better descent angle coming into shots so I could hold greens.
Regarding the open face. What is you have a two plane swing and the face is at 90° when it’s parallel to the ground? Is it still possible to compress the ball?
Hi. You must know already but Padraig Harrington has started putting out some TH-cam videos. The quality IMO is very high. The one on the grip was (sorry) the best I have ever seen, passing yours for #1 spot. He like you calls it like it needs to be called. Very simple if you don't have a good grip you won't play good golf so better give up. I'm a scientist. The reason science works is that it's a community. People talk, argue and compare ideas. Overall the result is progress and almost everything that makes our lives right now so much better than they were 100 years ago is due to this. (Even the most obvious exception, rock and roll came about because folks worked together and learned) The best golf tuition is similar. You give kudos to those who you have learned from and gone before. I think it would be a great idea to reach out to Padraig and mix his insights with your science. I think you are saying much of the same thing but different and if you merge the two the whole will be a great deal better than the sum of the parts.
That last thing yall did with the weight shift board was really good. There's sooo many golfers who would benefit from learning to do that drill correctly. I remember when I figured out how to do that move and it was truly a pivotal moment in my evolution. It immediately creates speed and most other good things everyone wants in their swing. I ingrained it by learning shawn Clement's perpetual motion drill. I still use that drill to this day out on the course when I start feeling off.
Guys, in quite a few of your videos you stress not overturning the pelvis, chest and maintaining spine angle in the backswing. A video showing all of us how to find the natural top of our backswing would be a great help.
Another great video, thanks guys. It would be cool to be able to see our hip rotation and sway when we watch videos of ourselves. Obviously it would be impossible to get the same precision as GEARS but just a simple check that hips were rotating in synch with the sway like you say is essential would be a start. I think the hips are not too difficult. You could put a bright fluorescent clothes peg on your lead hip. I think this would be quite easy to pickup and see the moment when the hips stop rotating in one direction and start in the other. The sway is a bit trickier. Perhaps the belt buckle may work. Or perhaps it would be easier to video from behind and put a marker there, perhaps another clothes peg on the belt in line with the spine. I'll try some things out but if you have any tips on how to measure direction and amount of sway on a video it would be much appreciated.
I think the main reason AM's end up with a curved pelvis trace is because they believe the right hip joint is the centre of rotation. When they use this flawed concept, the centre of the pelvis moves significantly towards the ball in the backswing. In reality, for the centre of pelvis to move more or less laterally, the right hip joint needs to be pulled well behind the initial starting position in the backswing and visa versa for the left hip joint in the downswing. It's quite good to think of the centre of the pelvis and hips joints moving the same way as the upper body; you need to pull each shoulder joint well behind your head so the base of the neck travels laterally (and if you didn't the base of neck and head would move significantly forward towards the ball).
Mike and Shaun, pls clarify - seems to me your 8/15/18 vid says get pressure shifted mostly before turning/torquing (esp peak) which has been very difficult for me, whereas today seems to me u are advocating turn and move laterally at same time. I have your earlier 2 part vids bookmarked and Mike you even say something like don't try to move laterally while turning or u won't "play out of the middle of the clubface." How am I misunderstanding?
This video is talking about similar concept/movement as the previous video you mentioned. Here we’re detailing the movement of the pelvis center which plays a role in the pressure shift, but remember, weight and pressure are not the same thing. There is overlap, but the start and stops are different. Does that help answer your question?
@@AthleticMotionGolf No, not really. What would is when one should be 70% lead foot which based on your 18' vid would be club horizontal, but that is just a guess and difficult for me
That last little bit on having shaft lean causing the face open was a light bulb going off for me. Maybe you have a "part 2" of this and go further into it?
The hardest part of re-centering and forward sway (to me) has always been the arms becoming disconnected and trailing behind the body. So the whole body goes forward, but the right arm seems to fall too much away coming down. I know it can be from getting arms too much behind you, but even with it more strictly in front it still is often my main issue.
@@AthleticMotionGolf yeah. The sort of thought I have when I get this re-centering feeling working effectively is: I think of trying to very early get the club going towards trail side until it gets pressure on that foot, then I try to feel almost like I’m lifting the arms up over my shoulder as if it it were something heavy. Importantly have to use correct muscles in back, legs, and abs for this to maintain posture and not stress lower back, etc. I lift it to the point where the momentum from it actually pulls my whole body back towards front foot. At that point, the body basically wants to unwind fast into the downswing without a lot of effort. Sort of just a recoil. I think it’s perhaps similar to like a “tossing object over your trail shoulder towards target” analogy. Except you don’t let go and you don’t let it throw you off balance.
Yes sir but this all (the back and forth) happens because of the dynamics of the swing while keeping the head steady. This is the trick. If you consciously move or slide back and forth you’re dead correct? 😉
I’ll disagree a bit for the sake of clarity. This does not happen correctly for most golfers. But it is very learnable when it doesn’t. And just like anything being learned, it does take some conscious effort. But also like anything learned, once you got it - it no longer becomes a conscious move🤓
I’ve notised, that, if you are a touch handsy, yet compress the ball pretty much, even slightly bent lead elbow opens the face up at impact. Instead of trying to work on pre-impact hand positions, I think it would be wise to have an idea of how the position feels after the impact. That way your subconcious will work it out in-swing instead of concious effort to make it happen before the ball.
Mike says in the video that “the bulk of the movement has to be done by shaft parallel in the downswing. Early is good, late is a killer.” I don’t understand what this means
A shank is NOT caused by an open clubface at impact. The clubface can be open, square or closed at impact and shank the shot. The path can be inside out, outside in or inside to square and shank the shot. A shank is the result of hitting the ball in the hosel of the club. It is caused by the player moving the club closer to the ball at impact than it was address. The Brits call it socketing. I'm 71, have played for 58 years and taught for 40 years including tour pros. You guys are great but wrong about shanking.
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What the link for the balence board
@@markjoyce6772 www.shefticpressureboard.com use AMG at checkout👊
I have watched a lot of your GEARS videos, but this one has to be in the top 3 for me. Something about watching that straight line center-pelvis motion just clicked for me. This is the best instruction on TH-cam.
It did for us too 💡💡💡
Great work every week guys. Presenting REAL DATA rather than perceptions and opinions , and de-bunking much of the misinformation that we are subjected to.
Keep up the excellent podcasts and the PRO / AM research.
Thanks! That means a lot 👊😊
Consistently the best and most insightful golf instructional content on TH-cam. Always pumped when I see a new video uploaded.
Thanks for the kind words! Anything we can make to help your game?
@@AthleticMotionGolf I'd love to see a video on right hip depth and right leg extension on the back swing. Also maintaining tush line on downswing. Thanks!
@@TrenbolognaSARMich this should help with all that😊 th-cam.com/video/0IxllCJRKS4/w-d-xo.html
Having been a playing professional and then turned teaching the game ( and swing ) for 30+ years this is by far the best I’ve seen over that time. Have been national coach 10 years. worked with very good juniors. Was always curious and looking for more and more detailed information to be able to help advanced players. Now with 52 I’ll get info I was looking for for years. Thanks for all the work you put in and the sharing of the information. Keep up your fantastic work 🙏👍
As always sterling content from you. I love your channel! The greatest thing is you have the science and the models behind it from AMs and Pros - there's a lot of conflicting stuff on the web but you put all that to bed!
Y’all really nailed it with this one. It addresses low point & dynamic loft all in one video. I’ve struggled with low point because I was told to push late. Now I know this is a faulty for most golfers. Y’all are the 🐐 of golf teaching. That was why I joined your site.
Pushing late is a death move and we just don't see if from the data we have from elite players. Glad to have you on board!
Gr8 video. If I am not straight but I am compressing I always check my hand path/height.... too close to my body & low produces a left shot (PULL DRAW HOOK)... too far away from body & high produces block/fade/shank. I love the gears thing... puts a picture in my head ... allows me to trust the knowledge still knowing there are lots of slight individual differences due to physical differences. Thanks guys
Hey guys... hands down the best instruction I've implemented for my game in years. My nemesis? 60 yds and in. Hoping you cover this one day. Also, you mentioned in this video a link to purchasing the balance board. Couldn't find it. Would love to get it! ⛳
I posted the link but it got deleted, maybe that's no longer allowed. It's called the "Sheftic Pressure board". I think AMG noted at checkout gets a discount
I just asked the same question...... Any pressure or lateral shift for quarter to half swings?
im not sure if you guys are still answering comments on this video just wanted to confirm when the pro turns and moves forward 5-6inches laterally is alot. in previous videos you say not to move more than a fist forward laterally but 5-6inchs would be around two fists is that how much we should be rotating anf moving forward on the down swing?
Another fantastic video from you both , can you do a gears video on how pros use their pelvis and turn on partial wedge shots , 75 , 50 and 25 yards please , is it the same shift turn shift turn as the full swing ? Many thanks for all you do for us golfers 👍
yes we will do it!
Great lesson, will try that at the range tomorrow
So eye opening. I knew this from other videos but thinking of that green dot moving forward works better for me. Great one guys!
I grew up playing hockey lefty, but golf right. Always struggled with a too-stiff golf swing. In hockey a shot is much more fluid. The combination of rotation and sway is key and natural. I've realized bringing that feeling to golf felt more natural. Great video as always.
This is precisely what I was working on today. Finding one’s tempo suitable to keep this all in sequence while achieving the highest efficiency is the key. And being repeatable. The secret sauce is staying on the wall. Without it all hell breaks loose. It’s nice to have this down, and having you guys go over the most important aspects of the swing on a regular basis. Best channel. Thanks
Great comments. Sequencing is a very big piece of the puzzle for sure.
Great drill for rhythm and timing, thanks.
You guys have helped me so much. Just improving my grip, setup, takeaway, and right arm in the backswing, I was able to have the best ball striking round of my life recently. The downswing has never felt easier, now that I'm making a quality backswing. Fat shots are now nonexistent. I used to hook regularly, and I haven't seen one in weeks. It's incredible. In a recent round I shot 71, with 32 putts. I made almost nothing, and could not have cared less, lol. You just can't put a price on repeatable, well struck, controlled golf shots. With some better putting, I'm hopeful that my best round of 69 will be broken very soon. Maybe later today? ;) I'll keep watching the videos, doing the drills, and working to improve any way that I can. Thanks so much, for making the game feel easy and fun again.
Love it! So happy you're playing great!
Yet another outstanding video guys. Without question, no other site on TH-cam provides this level of detail and understanding of what should happen in a good golf swing. Also thanks for introducing the Sheftic Pressure Board. This aid can be a game changer for many of us amateurs to help learn the magical “Re-Centering Move”.
Thanks!
Love this video! Really helped me to visualize weight shift with hip rotation. Do you guys have any good videos for improving shaft angle through the downswing?
Good work guys...but recognizing that it is just a drill...I find that when I "fall" left my head still gets ahead of the ball...what do you recommend to keep heep back or does it go forward and then back due to right side tilt? Thx
Good and helpful video reinforcing earlier videos on shaft lean and the magic move in golf. Question/request: The first golfer's pelvis movement is about 1" back and then 5" forward from starting point (6" total). Could you give us the numbers on his chest and head? I know they're connected, but I'm assuming the chest lateral motion is a bit smaller and the head's even less, especially at impact. Thanks.
Wondering where I can get my hands on one of those see-saw boards?
Hey Brad. It’s a Sheftic Board. 👍
I was wondering when the magic bullet of wisdom (see time index 11:30) about the face being open / you get the impact-flip you need to square the club nugget of truth was going to be mentioned. I still remember a previous video when you pointed out that one of the absolute biggest differences between Pro & AM swings was how quickly and how violently Pros put twisting torque on the handle, at the very top of the downswing, versus AMs, to square the club. That video changed my golfing life.
You knew it was coming🤓
Guys this has fixed so many annoying issues I could not resolve -Thankyou. I have been constantly instructed to not slide instead of how to slide correctly.
Question - does the driver ‘slide’ change ?
Rewatched this again today and answered my own question 🤦♀️
I am loving your weight shift, foot pressure, and magic backswing move videos. I feel really loose! Do you have a video that talks about footwork/weight shift/lateral movement with less than full swings? Like maybe a 45yard pitch where you take it back just a little further than club parallel to the ground? 🤔 Wondering if there is any pressure shift or if you just hang out on your front foot. Thanks 😀
I would like to see the bottom of that board to make me one. Also the gear video was eye opening thanks for teaching us new ways to think about a proper swing guys.
Once again great info from my favorite TH-cam channel! My swing is already perfect thanks to you guys (lies). So I’m helping my 13yo with his concept of motion. When he makes his first milli I won’t forget about y’all
great!!!
Why bowing of wrist don’t work with what you just mentioned in this video? Yes rotation is essential but I thought compression has a lot to do with both wrist angles in back swing and downswing .. can you guys please explain ? Thanks!
Great content. Amazing to be able to see the "Gears" in motion.
Another great video fellas. I always found, with my students, that (for a right handed player) the image of dealing a playing card with your left hand was a good way to explain the movement of the left hand in squaring the clubface, up to and through impact. Keep up the great work. I learn something new almost all the time through the insight of the gears program, and that's after 43 years as an Australian PGA pro. "New tricks" eh?
Great!!!
Do you guys do any golf clinics??
Where can i get that board?
Well done Gents ! Great tip.
😊👏👍🇨🇦
Is the knuckle down move essential for compression and tour like dynamic loft? Or if I have similar amount of shaft lean at impact with a stronger grip to square the face, will that achieve same results? Thank you!
Im doing a lot of this, but it produces a negative attack angle with my driver & 3w and, therefore, a ton of backspin. How can I fix this?
Great info as always. I have watched and studied all of your tips and lessons. One question: Shaun says to rotate around lead leg and hip in this video. I thought they moved up and back with rotation more around the spine. Have I an incorrect interpretation? jrdossmd
Love your content , but please can you use better contrasting colours on the graphics?
Great content, guys. Would love to see how you recommend incorporating the 'squat' move with this weight shift.
Many thanks for this. Where can I get one of those boards please?
sheftic board.com. Use code AMG
Great video! I like the training aid but I don’t see a link to it.. Can you tell me where to get more information?
www.shefticpressureboard.com use AMG at checkout👊
Great video!! Struggling with an open club face on downswing...any tips on helping me to get those knuckles down sooner?
We have a couple vids on that here on the channel👍
Thank you teaching me how to use this board, I just bought one but didn’t really how to use it correctly. Peter Myrtle Beach
Love it!!!
I wish this stuff was around when I was in school, AMG Pro vs Ams helped me finally consistently get back to scratch and breaking par without having to crazily rely on scrambling. My stats for a typical 6600 yard course went from 4 GIR to 15, fairways hit from 6 to 12, and have added about 20 yards carry to my driver by consistently finding the center of the club face more often (245 to 265).
Awesome job applying those concepts to your swing👏. Was there one that seemed to help the most?
@@AthleticMotionGolf hand position in the downswing. One of the things I noticed was that your tour pros almost always swing back through the impact zone exactly where they started, though obviously with shaft leans applied via rotation. This was a lightbulb moment because during setup I would set the distance via a handle raise for width, then settle into position, by lowering the handle I was able to get the correct distance from the golf ball, set up with correct shoulder tilt and hip open.
The other thing that helped was seeing that your prod moved their pelvis back to load up, and that they applied both a rotation and slide forward that was still inside the “frame” of the feet, one of my biggest issues besides handle lifting was sliding and not turning and uncoiling into the front leg. All in all this moved my contact from high toe and a straight push with some draw into a basically straight shot. So I picked up about 1.5 clubs in distance, tightened up my irons, and got a better descent angle coming into shots so I could hold greens.
Regarding the open face. What is you have a two plane swing and the face is at 90° when it’s parallel to the ground? Is it still possible to compress the ball?
yes
id like to order a "pressure board" but cant find a link.
Hi. You must know already but Padraig Harrington has started putting out some TH-cam videos.
The quality IMO is very high. The one on the grip was (sorry) the best I have ever seen, passing yours for #1 spot. He like you calls it like it needs to be called. Very simple if you don't have a good grip you won't play good golf so better give up.
I'm a scientist. The reason science works is that it's a community. People talk, argue and compare ideas. Overall the result is progress and almost everything that makes our lives right now so much better than they were 100 years ago is due to this. (Even the most obvious exception, rock and roll came about because folks worked together and learned)
The best golf tuition is similar. You give kudos to those who you have learned from and gone before. I think it would be a great idea to reach out to Padraig and mix his insights with your science. I think you are saying much of the same thing but different and if you merge the two the whole will be a great deal better than the sum of the parts.
Great video, I need to get that board!
reach out to Mark Sheftic at Sheftic Board. Use code AMG
That last thing yall did with the weight shift board was really good. There's sooo many golfers who would benefit from learning to do that drill correctly. I remember when I figured out how to do that move and it was truly a pivotal moment in my evolution. It immediately creates speed and most other good things everyone wants in their swing. I ingrained it by learning shawn Clement's perpetual motion drill. I still use that drill to this day out on the course when I start feeling off.
Love it
Guys, in quite a few of your videos you stress not overturning the pelvis, chest and maintaining spine angle in the backswing. A video showing all of us how to find the natural top of our backswing would be a great help.
Another great video, thanks guys.
It would be cool to be able to see our hip rotation and sway when we watch videos of ourselves. Obviously it would be impossible to get the same precision as GEARS but just a simple check that hips were rotating in synch with the sway like you say is essential would be a start.
I think the hips are not too difficult. You could put a bright fluorescent clothes peg on your lead hip. I think this would be quite easy to pickup and see the moment when the hips stop rotating in one direction and start in the other.
The sway is a bit trickier. Perhaps the belt buckle may work. Or perhaps it would be easier to video from behind and put a marker there, perhaps another clothes peg on the belt in line with the spine.
I'll try some things out but if you have any tips on how to measure direction and amount of sway on a video it would be much appreciated.
Great idea. It won't be too long before you'll be able to do it with your smartphone.
Pure gold. Thanks, gents.
Thanks!
Good video, something I work on ,you just can not transfer and turn on the downswing , there is just not enough time . thanks for reminding me.
That ⏱ is always ticking!
I think the main reason AM's end up with a curved pelvis trace is because they believe the right hip joint is the centre of rotation. When they use this flawed concept, the centre of the pelvis moves significantly towards the ball in the backswing. In reality, for the centre of pelvis to move more or less laterally, the right hip joint needs to be pulled well behind the initial starting position in the backswing and visa versa for the left hip joint in the downswing. It's quite good to think of the centre of the pelvis and hips joints moving the same way as the upper body; you need to pull each shoulder joint well behind your head so the base of the neck travels laterally (and if you didn't the base of neck and head would move significantly forward towards the ball).
Mike and Shaun, pls clarify - seems to me your 8/15/18 vid says get pressure shifted mostly before turning/torquing (esp peak) which has been very difficult for me, whereas today seems to me u are advocating turn and move laterally at same time. I have your earlier 2 part vids bookmarked and Mike you even say something like don't try to move laterally while turning or u won't "play out of the middle of the clubface." How am I misunderstanding?
This video is talking about similar concept/movement as the previous video you mentioned. Here we’re detailing the movement of the pelvis center which plays a role in the pressure shift, but remember, weight and pressure are not the same thing. There is overlap, but the start and stops are different. Does that help answer your question?
@@AthleticMotionGolf No, not really. What would is when one should be 70% lead foot which based on your 18' vid would be club horizontal, but that is just a guess and difficult for me
@@josephconroy9233 Typically around 70% at left arm parallel in downswing with the vertical force maxing around shaft vertical.
When you say no turn without sway is that only towards the target?
Nope
Where can I buy the balance board used in your video?
www.shefticpressureboard.com use AMG at checkout👊
Can you show us what pro golfers do with pretty severe up hill and downhill lies? Please🙏
That last little bit on having shaft lean causing the face open was a light bulb going off for me. Maybe you have a "part 2" of this and go further into it?
I’m in Houston texas, does anyone know where I can go where the so golf lessons with the gears tech?
No sir.
How do I get a lesson with Shawn?
Hey! Were both in cartersville, ga now. Shoot us an email at support@athleticmotiongolf.com
Brilliant lads thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Any chance we could get a vertical movement of tbe pelvis center side by side to the lateral?
We can do that👍
@@AthleticMotionGolf That would awesome!
I think there might be some meat on that bone!
@@AthleticMotionGolf That would awesome!
I think there might be some meat on that bone!
The hardest part of re-centering and forward sway (to me) has always been the arms becoming disconnected and trailing behind the body. So the whole body goes forward, but the right arm seems to fall too much away coming down. I know it can be from getting arms too much behind you, but even with it more strictly in front it still is often my main issue.
its from letting the arms move across too much on the backswing normally
@@AthleticMotionGolf yeah. The sort of thought I have when I get this re-centering feeling working effectively is:
I think of trying to very early get the club going towards trail side until it gets pressure on that foot, then I try to feel almost like I’m lifting the arms up over my shoulder as if it it were something heavy. Importantly have to use correct muscles in back, legs, and abs for this to maintain posture and not stress lower back, etc.
I lift it to the point where the momentum from it actually pulls my whole body back towards front foot. At that point, the body basically wants to unwind fast into the downswing without a lot of effort. Sort of just a recoil.
I think it’s perhaps similar to like a “tossing object over your trail shoulder towards target” analogy. Except you don’t let go and you don’t let it throw you off balance.
Yes sir but this all (the back and forth) happens because of the dynamics of the swing while keeping the head steady. This is the trick. If you consciously move or slide back and forth you’re dead correct? 😉
I’ll disagree a bit for the sake of clarity. This does not happen correctly for most golfers. But it is very learnable when it doesn’t. And just like anything being learned, it does take some conscious effort. But also like anything learned, once you got it - it no longer becomes a conscious move🤓
@@AthleticMotionGolf oh ya, and make sure you keep your arse on the wall. Lol
and of course the magic hip shift at set up; we can’t forget about that. Without that we might as well be a caddy. Lol
grreat video!
Thanks!
I’ve notised, that, if you are a touch handsy, yet compress the ball pretty much, even slightly bent lead elbow opens the face up at impact. Instead of trying to work on pre-impact hand positions, I think it would be wise to have an idea of how the position feels after the impact. That way your subconcious will work it out in-swing instead of concious effort to make it happen before the ball.
i like this idea
Mike says in the video that “the bulk of the movement has to be done by shaft parallel in the downswing. Early is good, late is a killer.”
I don’t understand what this means
Zinger at 6:34. lol
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You could also have a stronger grip and have the ball back a bit in your stance.
A shank is NOT caused by an open clubface at impact. The clubface can be open, square or closed at impact and shank the shot. The path can be inside out, outside in or inside to square and shank the shot. A shank is the result of hitting the ball in the hosel of the club. It is caused by the player moving the club closer to the ball at impact than it was address. The Brits call it socketing. I'm 71, have played for 58 years and taught for 40 years including tour pros. You guys are great but wrong about shanking.
Lots of ways to shank it yes :) Ive been teaching over 20 years and an wide open clubface will definitely cause a shank.
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