What I love about Clive in this scene, is what Clive does not say to his mother. His own mother speaks down on him, calls him a disappointment. But the only time Clive raises his voice: when it’s about Joshua (one could argue the “surrender your son to his fate” could be about Clive, but given the conversation is about Joshua, I focus on that). It says a lot about who Clive is as a person at this point in the story. His mother’s betrayal burns him, there’s no doubt about it. But he never makes the conversation about him, but about his father, brother and Rosaria. He briefly mentions himself, only to explain *why* he became a shield.
I believe at this point he just doesn't care about her anymore, as a mother that is. He has more important stuff on his plate to deal with, having to take over the roll of Cid, the hideout, and whatnot. He's likely more pissed at his mother for what she's done to bearers than how she treated him as a child.
I love how I just made this point and then read what you said, that line is definitely Clive subconsciously trying to voice his pain. Like he's know almost all of his life his mother has never cared for him and has accepted it , but in this one instance after all these years that angry rejected little boy is making one last desperate plea for his mother's love and it's immediately rejected. I don't think Clive conciously was referring to himself with that line, but there's definitely part of him that was.
The most twisted part about this scene? That it’s likely the most a positive interaction he has had with his mother since he was passed over by the Phoenix. I mean, it’s still very, very hostile, but she actually acknowledges his strength, boldness and daring, equating him to his father who he clearly admired a great deal. And even goes so far as to say “The Phoenix should have chose you.” Too bad she is such a bitch.
She acknowledge His abilities, She even wished that Joshua, the son she cares and the dominant of the Phoenix to have "Tenth" of his capabilities, if only Clive is the Phoenix dominant. but ultimately She fail to see the qualities of both her First son and second son. Clive IS a dominant, and personally his eikon is stronger than Phoenix and with his qualities and status and Dominant he could be the Son she wanted all along,
@neko_bold6393 Honestly, I don't think she was capable of loving any of her children with genuine parental love. Clive at the beginning of the game was someone any mother would be proud to call their son. Strong, devoted, and respectful. But because of her twisted worldview, she couldn't see any of that, just someone who failed to be chosen by the Phoenix and treated him as if he wasn't worth loving. With Joshua she may have spoiled him but it felt more like she wore him like an accessory as if telling every other mother that her child was greater just to inflate her own ego. When Joshua was presumed dead she didn't react the way that any mother would after losing her youngest child.
Hold on, Annabella is gaslighting the audience here. At phoenix gate, she almost ordered to kill Clive, only to say "he makes a good soldier". She is playing the victim while being the perpetrator of the events that are unfolding. She made her stepson(Dion) rebel, she was even shown plotting.
The funnier thing is that had it not been for her machinations, Rosaria would have ended up with 3 loyal dominants (Ifrit, Phoenix and Shiva) rather than 2 angry ones (Phoenix and Bahamut).
2:21 Damn, I freaking love Ben Starr's delivery here! He absolutely nails Clive's anger, it sounds so real! The voice acting in this game is hands down some of the best and most believable voice acting I have ever heard in a video game!! Huge props to the cast of this game, and I really hope ya'll get some nominations at the Game Awards this year!
From what I've heard (I could be wrong), they purposely avoided casting professional voice actors for this game and mainly went with stage performers. That's what makes the voice acting sound more raw and natural, and there by making it sound more real in a way.
She had a loving husband, two talented sons and a home but made anyway the choice to throw it away because she didn’t want to be seen as a loser in the eyes of others, not even Joshua who was more of a status proof than her child. And then she finished alone with the « false god » she mocked so much posing as a false son, but she couldn’t see it because this third son was another nobility pass for her after all. All of this for a better castle and status for herself. She was a lonely, blind and miserable person to the very end. Also hats off for Dion carrying the empire’s dignity on his back
She is just like Rodmilla de Ghent from Ever After. Imagine if we had a conversation like this: Clive: You are the only mother I have ever known. Was there a time, even in its smallest measurement, that you loved me at all? Anabella: How can anyone love a pebble in their shoe? Clive: Then you are not my mother, you’re just a whore from a bordello who sired me.
Not just a loser in the eye of others but over gossip by a handful who will do it no matter what. She fucked over her family and kingdom cause of 2 negative tweets.
I was really thinking Jill was just gonna run that bitch through. Annabella represents everything I despise about nobility. Selfish, greedy and entitled to the max.
Even before knowing about Olivier, she had no fucking hesitation. She was all "I'll kill this mother in front of her child. The Iron Kingdom had me do worse."
@@leomoreno7369 Fucking true. And let's not forget Jill stabbed her quote-unquote "father" for serving the Iron Kingdom. She wouldn't hesitate for a second to do Anabella in like she did Imreann.
I gotta' give it to the people who made this game and story. It has been awhile ever since I've ever felt one singular hate and anger towards a character like Anabelle. She honestly deserved a whole lot more to all the things she did but I am just full glad and happy her last moments were of fear and paranoia. As sad as it is, Clive and Joshua deserved a better mother than that witch.
Well... To be fair... She redeem herself by killing herself... The look on her face before her suicide is a contempt...like she know at that moment, the one that should be killed is herself 😅😅 like a samurai doing harakiri Her deadly sin is pride... That prevent her to admit she is wrong... She prever dead than admit it... A coward.... 😅
Her death was beautiful Stefano from the evil within would agree she made herself into art and Hell will be open to welcome that wretched hag when she gets there since killing herself is her final act towards damnation I hope it hurts.
I think it's so well done because of how real it feels. It's not super over the top or overdone like in most media. She just comes off as a realistic abusive and neglectful mother. Like scarily accurate. Which makes it even more fucking awful because her character is most likely based off someone's experience with their own mother
You know what's fucked up, she, from what I've seen (haven't played the game yet), never address Clive with his name. It's either "you", "him" or a really cold glare. She really sees him as her failure, nothing more. If anyone else notice as well, when her "veil" of her caring for Joshua dropped when she was talking with Elwin, she just addressed him as "The Phoenix". This woman doesn't care for her child, she just sees them as a trophy. As long as they are dominants.
It’s clocked tbf. In the grand scheme of thing(ironically ultima said this), Annabella is just the one giving birth to Phoenix and Ifrit(2 dominants). And she values herself no more than that, a mother to Dominants, a role destined her. No self-esteem, no love for herself. If you go down the rabbit hole and be political-ish you could argue the reason she married the young non-chosen Archduke of Rosaria is just to become the mother of the Phoenix, hence she only *sees* the young Joshua/whatever the Bahamut+phoenix kid is. But of course the noise and stress when Clive wasnt chosen could have pushed her into her “role”, no more than another pawn of Ultima, a slave to “fate”
I find it funny how YoshiP's teams pumped out two really bad moms in recent game contents. Though, after seeing the story past the demo, holy shit Athena (ff14) is an angel compared to Anabella
This kind of thinking was very common among bluebloods. They saw their children as nothing more than political bargaining chips to raise their social status or to cement alliances via arranged marriages.
Elwin said it best. Without good people like Clive and Joshua protecting her, she'd wind up in the gutter. She’s the disgrace, and the only lesson she taught her sons was what naught to be
@@smanly3274 I don't think any eikon really gave a shit about collateral damage when not under the Dominants control(Hell even under most of their control, the only ones actively trying to avoid collateral damage were Bahamut ,Phoenix and Shiva) and even they were hardly successful
Really love the connection between his brother, Joshua the Pheonix, embodiment rebirth while Clive, Ifrit, is just pure destruction, embodiment of "Fuck around and find out"
This is because the voice actor Ben Starr start his career as a theater actor. Normally, actors with theater backgrounds deliver better voice performances.
ironic huh? Anabella firstborn son Clive is the powerful Ifrit, her second son Joshua is the noble Phoenix. both her sons are outstanding men, and yet she choose to sire a third child who actually has nothing. not Clive's capabilities Nor Joshua's Phoenix. blessed by Phoenix and Bahamut? Her third child is nothing
@@JabamiLain or maybe her third child is ultima creation? like not her biological child but an illusion created by ultima so He can control Sanbreque. if you see the next video about Anabella death, after Dion stab her child, her child doesn't leave a corpse but vanished into thin air.
@@066kshitizvsingh4 I am beginning to suspect this connected to Tactics. Saint Ajora is the host of Ultima and Olivier is guess what? He is the host of Ultima. This is the exact same tail but different events.
Anabella is the embodiment of everything bad about nobility. Selfish and entitled. The nerve of her to say that a king's responsibility should be towards himself and his bloodline instead of the land and people he rules over. If anything, Elwin was the perfect example of what a noble should be. I say the greatest mystery was. What did the Archduke and the emperor even see in this woman to wanna marry her.
Her bloodline and the ability to give birth to dominants, which explains why she thinks so highly of herself. It does seem that at least the Archduke understands what kind of person she was and wasn't a fan, but the Empire fell for pitch and is just as horrible
@kookieman2227 Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. I gotta hand it to Clive, Jill, Joshua, and Elwin, who managed to tolerate her up until her betrayal.
Can't help love the irony of her unknowingly already having what she needed for the "perfect bloodline" she gave birth to 2 dominants of fire, and had Shiva's living under her roof. If Phoenix Gate had never happened, then she would have been able to have Jill marry either of her sons to make what she considered the "perfect child"
Clive never saw himself as her son. You can tell when he says she surrendered her son (Joshua) to his fate. He knew she didn't see him as hers, and he returned the favor even before everything went downhill. Truly one of the worst mothers ever.
“If you actually gave a damn about anything other than your lineage! Even if a nation falls it’s not about it being found again! It’s the people who carry the nation’s spirit! But you wouldn’t know that!”
"Would that you were half the Duchess that Elwin was! A nation is founded by its succeeding people. And a leader's duty is to pass on that blessing, not preserve their bloodline! Elwin was right -- without Clive or Joshua to back you, your life would have been gladly spent in the Oriflamme gutter."
I think more like gold digger act. She clearly wants something more than Rosaria Royal Family that they already have. That’s the reason she chooses the Emperor such as fancy houses, kingdoms, and power.
@DarkslayerNinja golf digger doesn't really apply here. It's more all about the noble bloodline sovereignty shtick. Classic nobility bulshit. She literally can't see the world any other way and when the veil is pulled off she loses her mind and kills herself
What I find truly sad is that... there are A LOT of Anabellas out there, both men and women. Parents whose heads are so far inside their own arses to the point they fail completely to acknowledge their children as different individuals with different personalities, and not an extension of themselves as their delusional heads projected. And, to the extent they fail to recognize the potential of their children. Anabella had everything. Clive and Joshua were two handsome and talented boys, even with Joshua's fragile health. Hell, Joshua was able to fully control the Phoenix despite his anger and the interference of Ultima. Clive was First Shield at the age of 15 and mastered the Blessing of the Phoenix as if it was a part of himself since birth. Elwin was honorable and loved even amongst Branded, specially due to his efforts to make their lives a bit easier. But instead, she chose to betray it all for a twisted dream doomed to fail from the very beginning.
I honestly just felt sorry for her. The irony is so thick here, it's oozing out of the screen. -You failed to awaken. -The shame of being slandered by those inferior. How could you ever know how that feels? -It should have been you. -Why did YOU survive?! Damn, and then she sees before her eyes, she was dead wrong about it all. Dude... that is freaking nuts.
Clive and Jill were slandered for 18 years because of either their brand or abilities as dominants and she has the nerve to ask of how would he know how that felt? She only cared about herself in the end
Makes me laugh when she said , "they had orders, Joshua was not to be harmed." An invading country isn't going to let a potential threat like that live. Joshua is the heir to Rosaria's throne. Ignoring the Pheonix, he would always be a rally point for dissidents. Adding the the Pheonix he is a weapon of mass destruction. You would be a fool to keep him alive.😢
@@lukerosales5879 nah, he is too old to be indoctrinated like that, and the fact that those Sanbreque attack his home, led to his father dead, the boy will forever hate them
I enjoy how horrible Anabella is, but it's true she isn't like that for no reason. They tell you in the ATL, she was essentially brainwashed from childhood "This is your purpose". Her entire identity and self worth hinged on her carrying on her noble blood and producing good children, producing a dominant. So of course Clive failing to become Phoenix is upsetting to her, and then to add insult to injury the rumor of Elwin's strongest and bravest child being from some commoner would naturally attack her pride and woth at it's foundations. The son that is unmistakably hers may be the Phoenix, but he was sickly, weak, seemingly useless, not valued by the people in the same way Clive was valued. Even Joshua (unfortunately) was aware of this, as he told Clive about how they cared about the Phoenix, not him. Clive was being hailed by the Rosarian people as a hero in the making, someone to look up to and respect, the perfect future ruler, or he would've been had he been the Phoenix. Clive was jealous of the respect Joshua received. Joshua was jealous of the love Clive received. Elwin wanted his people to be safe. Anabella wanted to fulfill her purpose.
I don't know if the game explains when people are chosen as dominants, but since Joshua was around 8-10 when he was chosen I bet Anabella treated Clive with "love" like a real mother should before he was rejected.
This woman doesn't even realize something else is going on. She doesn't even question what the blight is. Her children are figuring out something else is happening but she waste her time for what. Also, does she not realize that is not how the Eikon thing works?
This might be the best scene in the game. It has everything. Resolution to tension that had built through the entire game, clive getting to protect Joshua, both of them proving their evil mother wrong, Jill standing up for clive, the hypest ifrit transformation in the game. It's perfect
@@tenjenkell… There was Barbarricia’s(FFXIV) father. To the given extent; not much is known about him, exposition wise in that one side quest. She was so pissed off at him to the point that she wanted him _snuffed out._ If similar comparisons have to be made between the said _father_ and Anabelle; they had _political_ motives, if not otherwise.
Yeah, she's a great villain. She's someone everyone loves to hate. The game did not hold back on how horrible she was which makes us want her to suffer more.
The interesting thing about her is unlike a few other characters she has nothing to do with Ultima. She is just a downright horrible person and the developers did a great job making her so hateful. Her position/role in the story reminds me a lot of Hojo from FF7
@@JabamiLainEven so they can't hold on forever for something they might never get because their parent has too many problems unresolved that made them so hostile to their own child. Sometimes you just have to walk away and find your own happiness.
I love how when Annabella says how the phoenix should have been clive is a callback to when young Joshua said that he was not strong enough to be the phoenix and that clive should have been.
Ironically, Clive was rejected by the Phoenix because he was already harbouring Ifrit. So Anabella not only blamed for something he had absolutely no control over but also refused him while he was unknowingly hiding an even greater power.
even in confronting his own mother he puts his brother above himself, he didnt say "you had us", as at this point he fully accepts she had never lovedh im, but rather "you had joshua". just, damm
Wrong a leader a king is nothing without his people/ comrades without them he/she is no king nor leader and from time and memorial a king's/leader's duty first and foremost is to protect the welfare of his/her people/comrades at all cost but for you to say that a leader's duty should to protect and persevere the royal bloodline over the people I don't know the hell you're thinking that takes a boatload of stupidity and if I were Clive I would've have your head with extreme prejudice
Just like what Every FF character say in video Cloud and Noctis try FFXVI Demo by seeker thruthblade Having a caring dead parents is way better than having a sh*t living parent
Actually i can see why she thinks this way. In the old days nobility acts as beacon of control and order. People was basically uneducated and easily divided. So thats where the position of nobilty and royalty, a symbol of unity in masses Selfish and ignorance as she said, but it was quite true in days where only those in certain powerful family rule remained and people cannot force their freely and always subjugated by their weak nature. Thats why many royalty (ehem) had behaviours to marry their own kins
The dark truth in her rant about the value of noble bloodlines over lands and kingdoms is that she's correct. "What worth is a homeland in a world beset by the Blight?" It's a harsh truth, but it's the truth, if the Blight had reached Rosaria and the lands around Rosalith began to wither and die, what would Elwin's plan have been to stop it? It can't be stopped. Rosalith would have had to be abandoned and the duchy's capital moved. Which is also what happened to the Empire, and they lived on because their leadership lived on, it was once the Emperor was dead and Dion lost that things truly collapsed for them. But as long as the bloodlines of the Dominants continues on, the power of the Eikons will reawaken within them and their glory can be restored. It's also a microcosm of the Ultima - abandoned their homeland because the Blight ruined it and tried to rebuild their civilization on another planet.
I’m the most upset that they didn’t call her “Anabella” at the end cause that is NOT your mother. It should’ve been Clive “come Anabella, or not. I could care less either way” I would’ve been elated
And I would’ve brought up the fact that she had my boi enslaved. She talking bout “why did you survive?” I’m like “did we thou? We were branded and enslaved under the Empire” mannn
Tbh she got a very very big roll in 16 but not on screen, all the killing in rosaria is by her orders, even hugo invasion is her idea, i think we loved the game so much we want more
A part of me thinks the reason she turned out the way she is not solely due to her “duty” to her “noble” cause; but the fact she did what she did out of fear-to not be _useless._ So her problem(s) may possibly be an existential one, if nothing else aside from utter lunacy.
It doesn't fit her world view so she is uncomprehending. She has this entire nobility sovereign bloodline focus and its her whole world and pov but we see it all get torn down here as there's more to the world and some eldritch level shit going on ontop of that. She had no time to process anything that was utterly outside both this pov and her headline prejudices. Nothing was "in its place" like she believed. The emperor was death, the kingdom breaking apart, her son ends up being ifrit (somehow a 2nd fire primal) and her fave dead son is still alive. All this craziness she could have discarded or even menuvered around as long as she had her emperor son but then he turned into vapor like an akashic and all of her plans, goals and sanity with him. All the shallow bullshit she believed in and valued as a core reality of the world evaporated in one go. She had a reaction to Clive transforming (along with all the other stuff going on) which was killing herself. Because nothing made sense anymore and nothing was in its place.
a very small part of me was hoping that clive, jill, joshua, dion, olivier, and anabella would go home too rosalith and have a nice happy ending not gonna lie 😭🎉
because when bearers and dominants use their powers they turn to stone. cid's arm and the doctor in the hideaway explain this. since she was captured by the iron kingdom, jill has been overusing shiva profusely. since meeting clive she's been told to keep it down. you see this in a cutscene where she gets told off to take care of herself more by the hideaway medic. she also gets told off by clive to keep her power use down.
@@idleeidolon Either clive gets completely turned to stone in the ending or the petrification only extended to his hand and he returned to jill... the ending is left open ended. Probably a DLC somewhere down the line.
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What I love about Clive in this scene, is what Clive does not say to his mother.
His own mother speaks down on him, calls him a disappointment.
But the only time Clive raises his voice: when it’s about Joshua (one could argue the “surrender your son to his fate” could be about Clive, but given the conversation is about Joshua, I focus on that).
It says a lot about who Clive is as a person at this point in the story. His mother’s betrayal burns him, there’s no doubt about it. But he never makes the conversation about him, but about his father, brother and Rosaria. He briefly mentions himself, only to explain *why* he became a shield.
Anabella Lesage bewitching her sons Clive and Joshua including Elwin and the honorable Prince Dion Lesage
I believe at this point he just doesn't care about her anymore, as a mother that is. He has more important stuff on his plate to deal with, having to take over the roll of Cid, the hideout, and whatnot. He's likely more pissed at his mother for what she's done to bearers than how she treated him as a child.
I love how I just made this point and then read what you said, that line is definitely Clive subconsciously trying to voice his pain. Like he's know almost all of his life his mother has never cared for him and has accepted it , but in this one instance after all these years that angry rejected little boy is making one last desperate plea for his mother's love and it's immediately rejected. I don't think Clive conciously was referring to himself with that line, but there's definitely part of him that was.
The most twisted part about this scene? That it’s likely the most a positive interaction he has had with his mother since he was passed over by the Phoenix. I mean, it’s still very, very hostile, but she actually acknowledges his strength, boldness and daring, equating him to his father who he clearly admired a great deal. And even goes so far as to say “The Phoenix should have chose you.”
Too bad she is such a bitch.
She acknowledge His abilities, She even wished that Joshua, the son she cares and the dominant of the Phoenix to have "Tenth" of his capabilities, if only Clive is the Phoenix dominant. but ultimately She fail to see the qualities of both her First son and second son. Clive IS a dominant, and personally his eikon is stronger than Phoenix and with his qualities and status and Dominant he could be the Son she wanted all along,
@neko_bold6393 Honestly, I don't think she was capable of loving any of her children with genuine parental love. Clive at the beginning of the game was someone any mother would be proud to call their son. Strong, devoted, and respectful. But because of her twisted worldview, she couldn't see any of that, just someone who failed to be chosen by the Phoenix and treated him as if he wasn't worth loving.
With Joshua she may have spoiled him but it felt more like she wore him like an accessory as if telling every other mother that her child was greater just to inflate her own ego. When Joshua was presumed dead she didn't react the way that any mother would after losing her youngest child.
Not just a bitch but a massive retard too
If I was Clive I would have said “Then you are not my mother, you’re just a gutter whore who gave birth to me!”
Hold on, Annabella is gaslighting the audience here. At phoenix gate, she almost ordered to kill Clive, only to say "he makes a good soldier". She is playing the victim while being the perpetrator of the events that are unfolding. She made her stepson(Dion) rebel, she was even shown plotting.
The funnier thing is that had it not been for her machinations, Rosaria would have ended up with 3 loyal dominants (Ifrit, Phoenix and Shiva) rather than 2 angry ones (Phoenix and Bahamut).
I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS!!!!!!!
2:21 Damn, I freaking love Ben Starr's delivery here! He absolutely nails Clive's anger, it sounds so real! The voice acting in this game is hands down some of the best and most believable voice acting I have ever heard in a video game!! Huge props to the cast of this game, and I really hope ya'll get some nominations at the Game Awards this year!
Those lines are just amazing. The anger in his voice goddamn so good.
From what I've heard (I could be wrong), they purposely avoided casting professional voice actors for this game and mainly went with stage performers. That's what makes the voice acting sound more raw and natural, and there by making it sound more real in a way.
If you think this is nailing anger, then you should watch the Japanese version of this scene. It is levels above in terms of emotion.
@@oddassembler I'll listen to it right now lol. Nice
@@oddassembler I personally prefer the EN voice here. I didn't get that raw emotion in JP voice
All Clive heard from his mom was: “Blah,blah *I’m a bitch* blah, blah, *I’m a gold digger* blah, blah.”
All poisonous mothers deserve to burn in gehenna.
@@Mythril_YT LMAO .
She truly was a royal slut
I would but that Anabella walking in the street in afterlife without any support.
Blah blah?!
She had a loving husband, two talented sons and a home but made anyway the choice to throw it away because she didn’t want to be seen as a loser in the eyes of others, not even Joshua who was more of a status proof than her child. And then she finished alone with the « false god » she mocked so much posing as a false son, but she couldn’t see it because this third son was another nobility pass for her after all. All of this for a better castle and status for herself. She was a lonely, blind and miserable person to the very end.
Also hats off for Dion carrying the empire’s dignity on his back
Honestly, she disgusts me
Death is a kinder fate than she deserves. Clive and Jill were despised and she had the nerve to say how they would know how it feels.
@@waywardphoenix3188
Amen to that!
She is just like Rodmilla de Ghent from Ever After. Imagine if we had a conversation like this:
Clive: You are the only mother I have ever known. Was there a time, even in its smallest measurement, that you loved me at all?
Anabella: How can anyone love a pebble in their shoe?
Clive: Then you are not my mother, you’re just a whore from a bordello who sired me.
Not just a loser in the eye of others but over gossip by a handful who will do it no matter what. She fucked over her family and kingdom cause of 2 negative tweets.
I seriously love how Jill brandishes the rapier like saying "I got your rights right here, and you ain't gonna stop me."
If it were any other situation Clive would have heart eyes
"That's my wife and I love her"
I was really thinking Jill was just gonna run that bitch through. Annabella represents everything I despise about nobility. Selfish, greedy and entitled to the max.
Even before knowing about Olivier, she had no fucking hesitation. She was all "I'll kill this mother in front of her child. The Iron Kingdom had me do worse."
@@leomoreno7369 Fucking true. And let's not forget Jill stabbed her quote-unquote "father" for serving the Iron Kingdom. She wouldn't hesitate for a second to do Anabella in like she did Imreann.
I gotta' give it to the people who made this game and story. It has been awhile ever since I've ever felt one singular hate and anger towards a character like Anabelle.
She honestly deserved a whole lot more to all the things she did but I am just full glad and happy her last moments were of fear and paranoia. As sad as it is, Clive and Joshua deserved a better mother than that witch.
Well... To be fair... She redeem herself by killing herself... The look on her face before her suicide is a contempt...like she know at that moment, the one that should be killed is herself 😅😅 like a samurai doing harakiri
Her deadly sin is pride... That prevent her to admit she is wrong...
She prever dead than admit it...
A coward.... 😅
Her death was beautiful Stefano from the evil within would agree she made herself into art and Hell will be open to welcome that wretched hag when she gets there since killing herself is her final act towards damnation I hope it hurts.
I think it's so well done because of how real it feels. It's not super over the top or overdone like in most media. She just comes off as a realistic abusive and neglectful mother. Like scarily accurate. Which makes it even more fucking awful because her character is most likely based off someone's experience with their own mother
she needed to be tortured
She had that entire royal sovereignty belief down to a T. Very common amongst nobility but she took it to extremes with her ambitions.
You know what's fucked up, she, from what I've seen (haven't played the game yet), never address Clive with his name. It's either "you", "him" or a really cold glare. She really sees him as her failure, nothing more. If anyone else notice as well, when her "veil" of her caring for Joshua dropped when she was talking with Elwin, she just addressed him as "The Phoenix". This woman doesn't care for her child, she just sees them as a trophy. As long as they are dominants.
So, she is like Cercei but worse
It’s clocked tbf. In the grand scheme of thing(ironically ultima said this), Annabella is just the one giving birth to Phoenix and Ifrit(2 dominants). And she values herself no more than that, a mother to Dominants, a role destined her. No self-esteem, no love for herself.
If you go down the rabbit hole and be political-ish you could argue the reason she married the young non-chosen Archduke of Rosaria is just to become the mother of the Phoenix, hence she only *sees* the young Joshua/whatever the Bahamut+phoenix kid is.
But of course the noise and stress when Clive wasnt chosen could have pushed her into her “role”, no more than another pawn of Ultima, a slave to “fate”
@@juanescobar1735in the books Cersei didn't care for her children either
And in return he never talks about himself, what she did to him or made him feel. He entirely disregards himself in the conversation
@@tenjenk That's not true at all.
Hojo has competition for worst parent in Final Fantasy history
Yes indeed
@@RickyUzumaki993 like it’s a feat to be just as bad if not worse than Mr “I experimented on my child with alien cells”
@@Darksaviour
That it is. Honestly, I didn’t think any parent in fiction could even come *CLOSE* to being that bad.
I find it funny how YoshiP's teams pumped out two really bad moms in recent game contents. Though, after seeing the story past the demo, holy shit Athena (ff14) is an angel compared to Anabella
@@DarksaviourI absolutely HATE Hojo. I hate what he's done to Sephiroth. He treated his own son as nothing more than an experimental subject!
As a mother myself i cant imagine thinking of my kid as a 'trophy'.
I would do anything to keep my kid safe and healthy.
I am surprise her children did not kill her.
@@Haywood2 its still their 'mother'....
This kind of thinking was very common among bluebloods.
They saw their children as nothing more than political bargaining chips to raise their social status or to cement alliances via arranged marriages.
@@Haywood2oh don’t worry they didn’t need she did
Me too. But i did saw some parents see their kids as 'trophy', the kids are not happy at all. it was horrible
Elwin said it best. Without good people like Clive and Joshua protecting her, she'd wind up in the gutter. She’s the disgrace, and the only lesson she taught her sons was what naught to be
Clive didnt fail to awaken. He was chosen by another eikon. That is why the Phoenix rejected him.
ironically he was chosen by the one with the highest power ceiling.
@@066kshitizvsingh4 Don't you mean the one who doesn't give a shit about collateral damage or unhinged destruction?
@@smanly3274 I don't think any eikon really gave a shit about collateral damage when not under the Dominants control(Hell even under most of their control, the only ones actively trying to avoid collateral damage were Bahamut ,Phoenix and Shiva) and even they were hardly successful
Really love the connection between his brother, Joshua the Pheonix, embodiment rebirth while Clive, Ifrit, is just pure destruction, embodiment of "Fuck around and find out"
@@fumeking701Basically, like the brothers, Ifrit and Phoenix were night and day.
Damn i like clive voice actor, that emotions is on point
Ngl I thought his young and old self would have diffrent va's
This is because the voice actor Ben Starr start his career as a theater actor. Normally, actors with theater backgrounds deliver better voice performances.
The voice acting has been so incredible like damn the emotion is so amazing !!!
ironic huh? Anabella firstborn son Clive is the powerful Ifrit, her second son Joshua is the noble Phoenix. both her sons are outstanding men, and yet she choose to sire a third child who actually has nothing. not Clive's capabilities Nor Joshua's Phoenix. blessed by Phoenix and Bahamut? Her third child is nothing
Didn't her third child possess Ultima, even if, unlike Clide, he couldn't resist its influence and power ?
@@JabamiLain or maybe her third child is ultima creation? like not her biological child but an illusion created by ultima so He can control Sanbreque. if you see the next video about Anabella death, after Dion stab her child, her child doesn't leave a corpse but vanished into thin air.
@@JabamiLainhe child was a puppet, he didn't wield anything. It is implied he was soulless, so technically an undead
@@066kshitizvsingh4 I am beginning to suspect this connected to Tactics. Saint Ajora is the host of Ultima and Olivier is guess what? He is the host of Ultima. This is the exact same tail but different events.
“Sire?” You’ve been on playing this game too much 💀
Anabella is the embodiment of everything bad about nobility. Selfish and entitled. The nerve of her to say that a king's responsibility should be towards himself and his bloodline instead of the land and people he rules over. If anything, Elwin was the perfect example of what a noble should be. I say the greatest mystery was. What did the Archduke and the emperor even see in this woman to wanna marry her.
Amen to that, my friend
Her bloodline and the ability to give birth to dominants, which explains why she thinks so highly of herself.
It does seem that at least the Archduke understands what kind of person she was and wasn't a fan, but the Empire fell for pitch and is just as horrible
Arranged marriage for Elwin.
Ultima manipulates the emperor.
@kookieman2227 Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. I gotta hand it to Clive, Jill, Joshua, and Elwin, who managed to tolerate her up until her betrayal.
@@michaelmurray8134
Elwin. And same here
Can't help love the irony of her unknowingly already having what she needed for the "perfect bloodline" she gave birth to 2 dominants of fire, and had Shiva's living under her roof. If Phoenix Gate had never happened, then she would have been able to have Jill marry either of her sons to make what she considered the "perfect child"
The Empress has a BIG Superiority Complex. Just WOW!
She made hitler’s aryan ideal seems reasonable
She makes Shinra look like a humanitarian corporation
@@Twocoolman115no not really almost but shinra wants to suck life out of the planet they dropped sector 7 and they covered up nibelhaim
Kinda wanted to see her reaction when Clive uses Ifrit
Wifey Jill defending her man 😌
2:24
Final Fantasy 1’s overworld. My god. It shows up more than once.
Clive never saw himself as her son. You can tell when he says she surrendered her son (Joshua) to his fate. He knew she didn't see him as hers, and he returned the favor even before everything went downhill. Truly one of the worst mothers ever.
0:47 If I was Jill, I would have slapped her and said: “Answers the woman who showed no respect towards me! If you were half the ruler Elwin was-”
“If you actually gave a damn about anything other than your lineage! Even if a nation falls it’s not about it being found again! It’s the people who carry the nation’s spirit! But you wouldn’t know that!”
@@waywardphoenix3188 Did you make that up?
Your quote got the writer part of my brain thinking 😓
"Would that you were half the Duchess that Elwin was! A nation is founded by its succeeding people. And a leader's duty is to pass on that blessing, not preserve their bloodline! Elwin was right -- without Clive or Joshua to back you, your life would have been gladly spent in the Oriflamme gutter."
Man and the fact they had her end herself is so cathartic🎉🎉🎉
Death was honestly a kindness. She deserved to live out her days begging for forgiveness where there was none.
@@waywardphoenix3188 Honestly, she deserved a fate much worse than death.
She deserved way worse than suicide
A pathetic end for a pathetic woman. Perfect
she's gotta one of the biggest Karen of all time dude WOW
I think more like gold digger act. She clearly wants something more than Rosaria Royal Family that they already have. That’s the reason she chooses the Emperor such as fancy houses, kingdoms, and power.
@DarkslayerNinja golf digger doesn't really apply here. It's more all about the noble bloodline sovereignty shtick. Classic nobility bulshit. She literally can't see the world any other way and when the veil is pulled off she loses her mind and kills herself
@@DarkslayerNinja I think she’s a combination of both a Karen and a gold digger
What I find truly sad is that... there are A LOT of Anabellas out there, both men and women. Parents whose heads are so far inside their own arses to the point they fail completely to acknowledge their children as different individuals with different personalities, and not an extension of themselves as their delusional heads projected. And, to the extent they fail to recognize the potential of their children. Anabella had everything. Clive and Joshua were two handsome and talented boys, even with Joshua's fragile health. Hell, Joshua was able to fully control the Phoenix despite his anger and the interference of Ultima. Clive was First Shield at the age of 15 and mastered the Blessing of the Phoenix as if it was a part of himself since birth. Elwin was honorable and loved even amongst Branded, specially due to his efforts to make their lives a bit easier. But instead, she chose to betray it all for a twisted dream doomed to fail from the very beginning.
I bet the mother felt too stupid realizing she had two sons with Eikon’s. 😂😂
I have to congratulate the creators of this game they made annabella so vile that her pitful death never made me sad for her😂
for real bro🤣🤣🤣🤣
I honestly just felt sorry for her. The irony is so thick here, it's oozing out of the screen.
-You failed to awaken.
-The shame of being slandered by those inferior. How could you ever know how that feels?
-It should have been you.
-Why did YOU survive?!
Damn, and then she sees before her eyes, she was dead wrong about it all. Dude... that is freaking nuts.
Clive and Jill were slandered for 18 years because of either their brand or abilities as dominants and she has the nerve to ask of how would he know how that felt? She only cared about herself in the end
Even in a room where almost everyone in it wants her dead and she has no protection, Anabella is still popping off. True menace.
Makes me laugh when she said , "they had orders, Joshua was not to be harmed."
An invading country isn't going to let a potential threat like that live.
Joshua is the heir to Rosaria's throne.
Ignoring the Pheonix, he would always be a rally point for dissidents.
Adding the the Pheonix he is a weapon of mass destruction.
You would be a fool to keep him alive.😢
Not if she indoctrinated him to Sanbreque's thinking.
@@lukerosales5879 nah, he is too old to be indoctrinated like that, and the fact that those Sanbreque attack his home, led to his father dead, the boy will forever hate them
Out of all the people I wanted to smoke in gaming none of them come close to her
I wanna cut her down and I haven’t even played the game yet
I enjoy how horrible Anabella is, but it's true she isn't like that for no reason.
They tell you in the ATL, she was essentially brainwashed from childhood "This is your purpose". Her entire identity and self worth hinged on her carrying on her noble blood and producing good children, producing a dominant.
So of course Clive failing to become Phoenix is upsetting to her, and then to add insult to injury the rumor of Elwin's strongest and bravest child being from some commoner would naturally attack her pride and woth at it's foundations. The son that is unmistakably hers may be the Phoenix, but he was sickly, weak, seemingly useless, not valued by the people in the same way Clive was valued.
Even Joshua (unfortunately) was aware of this, as he told Clive about how they cared about the Phoenix, not him. Clive was being hailed by the Rosarian people as a hero in the making, someone to look up to and respect, the perfect future ruler, or he would've been had he been the Phoenix.
Clive was jealous of the respect Joshua received.
Joshua was jealous of the love Clive received.
Elwin wanted his people to be safe.
Anabella wanted to fulfill her purpose.
Thats is not a reason she is just a piece of sh*t
ATL? You mean the Ultimania?
I don't know if the game explains when people are chosen as dominants, but since Joshua was around 8-10 when he was chosen I bet Anabella treated Clive with "love" like a real mother should before he was rejected.
I love the irony that Clive ended up being everything Annabella wanted in a son. She was just too selfish to give him a chance.
This woman doesn't even realize something else is going on. She doesn't even question what the blight is. Her children are figuring out something else is happening but she waste her time for what. Also, does she not realize that is not how the Eikon thing works?
At his point In the story nobody knows how Eikons truly work
It's amazing how she still looks so young for someone who is a mother of a 33 year old.
This might be the best scene in the game. It has everything. Resolution to tension that had built through the entire game, clive getting to protect Joshua, both of them proving their evil mother wrong, Jill standing up for clive, the hypest ifrit transformation in the game.
It's perfect
This scene was AMAZING. I felt the real tension between the characters so strongly. Oh my godddddd
2:21-2:40 I’m still shocked Ben Starr didn’t win Best Actor award at TGA 2023.😢
Well Jecht can no longer be considered the worst parent to a Final Fantays protagonist anymore
To be fair, Jecht was never a bad person, just a lousy parent. At least he actually cared about his son, Tidus.
Jecht wanted to man his son up
@@ColonelCarnage Yeah, this. Even though the way he went about it was wrong.
In ff14 there are a handful of high contenders especially a very recent one in the Pandamonium raid.
@@tenjenkell… There was Barbarricia’s(FFXIV) father. To the given extent; not much is known about him, exposition wise in that one side quest. She was so pissed off at him to the point that she wanted him _snuffed out._
If similar comparisons have to be made between the said _father_ and Anabelle; they had _political_ motives, if not otherwise.
actually i love annabelle as villain . imagine the real villain is her and she just normal human who manipulate dominant.
Yeah, she's a great villain. She's someone everyone loves to hate. The game did not hold back on how horrible she was which makes us want her to suffer more.
The interesting thing about her is unlike a few other characters she has nothing to do with Ultima. She is just a downright horrible person and the developers did a great job making her so hateful. Her position/role in the story reminds me a lot of Hojo from FF7
@@EvelynL.1112facts
@@TylerA52903 Hojo was way more interesting than her.
Man, this scene alone makes this game award worthy
Ben Starrs Performance in this scene alone is simply spectacular.
Him and yuri was robbed how the hell did the vampire from bg3 win?
His voice acting is fucking legendary
She's a horrible mother. Joshua and Clive deserve better especially after all they had to go through.
She's cruel mother
Hey Anabela, if the people were willing to turn on you that easily, what power did you really have?
Now both sons are packing heat in more ways than one. Nice going bimbo
"Packing heat", I saw what you did there.
If i were Clive I would just forget about her
That's not an easy thing to do. Every child wants their parents' love or at the very least a plausible explanation for their hate.
@@JabamiLainAlso she does somethings he can't ignore. She's a sociopath.
@@JabamiLainEven so they can't hold on forever for something they might never get because their parent has too many problems unresolved that made them so hostile to their own child. Sometimes you just have to walk away and find your own happiness.
@@leon4000 I am aware.
or boil her in water slowly
I love how when Annabella says how the phoenix should have been clive is a callback to when young Joshua said that he was not strong enough to be the phoenix and that clive should have been.
What's interesting is the background music playing during this scene has Final Fantasy I Overworld theme leitmotif but in minor key
Exactly
That voice acting man..top tier
Ironically, Clive was rejected by the Phoenix because he was already harbouring Ifrit.
So Anabella not only blamed for something he had absolutely no control over but also refused him while he was unknowingly hiding an even greater power.
Anabella is also gold digger in Royal Family. Wow just wow…..
Hate her.
Not gold digger. Just your standard ambitious nobility.
damn clives voice actor is pog
I wish Annabella had reacted to Ifrite. It would have been cathartic to see her realize how much a fool she’d been
I like to see them have, for the video game awards this year, an award for biggest “Game Karen”. I would nominate this BISH in a heartbeat.😂
even in confronting his own mother he puts his brother above himself, he didnt say "you had us", as at this point he fully accepts she had never lovedh im, but rather "you had joshua". just, damm
Wrong a leader a king is nothing without his people/ comrades without them he/she is no king nor leader and from time and memorial a king's/leader's duty first and foremost is to protect the welfare of his/her people/comrades at all cost but for you to say that a leader's duty should to protect and persevere the royal bloodline over the people I don't know the hell you're thinking that takes a boatload of stupidity and if I were Clive I would've have your head with extreme prejudice
Damn right
Agreed
Putin and Kim Jong Un say hi.
Exactly, a leader cares for their people, just like Elwin did. He was an excellent ruler because of that.
@@EvelynL.1112
Amen to that
Twisted mindset
the little part of me wanted the rosfields to make up and be a family again. i absolutely loved how anabella voiced her lines she was so perfect
Let's face it, anabella, you've gone off the deep end.
Just noticed the FF1 overworld track plays at 1:04
Mother of the year xD
Perhaps part of “Most Hated Character of 2023”? Considering her deeds, mindset and all…
Just like what
Every FF character say in video
Cloud and Noctis try FFXVI Demo by seeker thruthblade
Having a caring dead parents is way better than having a sh*t living parent
@@DanSQ28absolutely. I’d rather remember my dead parents being kind and caring than having living parents that couldn’t give two shits about me
Death was to easy for her. Should’ve made her a slave for how long Clive was
Actually i can see why she thinks this way. In the old days nobility acts as beacon of control and order. People was basically uneducated and easily divided. So thats where the position of nobilty and royalty, a symbol of unity in masses
Selfish and ignorance as she said, but it was quite true in days where only those in certain powerful family rule remained and people cannot force their freely and always subjugated by their weak nature. Thats why many royalty (ehem) had behaviours to marry their own kins
Whose fault was it people were chaotic ? They refused to use education on them. Anyone who thinks like her has no sanity in them.
I just noticed the song playing in the background is actually the ff1 overworld theme
1:03 FF1 nes overworld theme music
Still a bit miffed that you don’t get to stab her at least a little. At least she got to see her demon baby bite it.
The voice acting in this game is just so fucking good!!
Probably best cutscene. Ben is a monster!!!
I just realized the FF1 world map theme was playing in the background.
The dark truth in her rant about the value of noble bloodlines over lands and kingdoms is that she's correct. "What worth is a homeland in a world beset by the Blight?" It's a harsh truth, but it's the truth, if the Blight had reached Rosaria and the lands around Rosalith began to wither and die, what would Elwin's plan have been to stop it? It can't be stopped. Rosalith would have had to be abandoned and the duchy's capital moved. Which is also what happened to the Empire, and they lived on because their leadership lived on, it was once the Emperor was dead and Dion lost that things truly collapsed for them. But as long as the bloodlines of the Dominants continues on, the power of the Eikons will reawaken within them and their glory can be restored.
It's also a microcosm of the Ultima - abandoned their homeland because the Blight ruined it and tried to rebuild their civilization on another planet.
She should be grateful that not only she gave birth not 1 but 2 dominants if she only realized that when she saw clive transform to ifrit
I’m the most upset that they didn’t call her “Anabella” at the end cause that is NOT your mother. It should’ve been Clive “come Anabella, or not. I could care less either way” I would’ve been elated
And I would’ve brought up the fact that she had my boi enslaved. She talking bout “why did you survive?” I’m like “did we thou? We were branded and enslaved under the Empire” mannn
And she had the nerve to ask “how could he know how being slandered felt?!” I don’t feel any sympathy for her at all
FF1 WORLD MAP SONG IN THE BACKROUND WTF
I see Cersei lannister has a match for her ego in the final fantasy universe.
Who would of thought The Mother voice actress is the same actress who played Alice Wake in Alan Wake 2.
I was hoping for a scene where the uncle would interact with her. I'm sure it would've been something to see.
3:12 Not anymore. My boy jinxed him
Was kind of dissapointed that she never really got a bigger role based on how the demo set her up, but maybe thats just me.
I m glad she didnt
why would u want that? she’s literally a piece of shit
That's kind of the point through as she is not nearly as important or special as she belives herself to be
Tbh she got a very very big roll in 16 but not on screen, all the killing in rosaria is by her orders, even hugo invasion is her idea, i think we loved the game so much we want more
@@a7madRyan yeah. The black shields are all her.
A part of me thinks the reason she turned out the way she is not solely due to her “duty” to her “noble” cause; but the fact she did what she did out of fear-to not be _useless._ So her problem(s) may possibly be an existential one, if nothing else aside from utter lunacy.
I mean... the theme that plays here is named "A Mother's Madness" so maybe a little bit of both.
Moment worth the wait
Best acting in ff game so far
Nah maybe her dying right after the boss fight was for the best. She got a whole two kingdoms destroyed with that backwards ass philosophy lol
Mother of the year
They could have at least gave Annabella’s reaction to Clive transformation, maybe a how?? So he was a dominant? Something…
Same here i wanted to See such a scene too...
It doesn't fit her world view so she is uncomprehending. She has this entire nobility sovereign bloodline focus and its her whole world and pov but we see it all get torn down here as there's more to the world and some eldritch level shit going on ontop of that. She had no time to process anything that was utterly outside both this pov and her headline prejudices. Nothing was "in its place" like she believed. The emperor was death, the kingdom breaking apart, her son ends up being ifrit (somehow a 2nd fire primal) and her fave dead son is still alive. All this craziness she could have discarded or even menuvered around as long as she had her emperor son but then he turned into vapor like an akashic and all of her plans, goals and sanity with him. All the shallow bullshit she believed in and valued as a core reality of the world evaporated in one go.
She had a reaction to Clive transforming (along with all the other stuff going on) which was killing herself. Because nothing made sense anymore and nothing was in its place.
@@tenjenkperfect explanation dude
Clive is in Tekken 8 😂 can’t wait to play as him
They really perfected her bitchy im too good for you look in this game everytime the camera was on her lol
I believe clive still see her as his mother,too bad she is so lust in power to see her own son....
Crazy.. Clive your mother is for the streets.
It is confirmed Anabella having the affair.
She ruined the brother’s lives because she wants to live in a much bigger house, more money and more power!
Don’t forget Jill too. She was practically a sister to them
And then started fucking over that big house too so she could have all the lands under her bloodline.
In her case; I’m sure all roofs do all the same, classy or not.
a very small part of me was hoping that clive, jill, joshua, dion, olivier, and anabella would go home too rosalith and have a nice happy ending not gonna lie 😭🎉
Was the Emperor's child innocent ? Unwillingly guilty ? Or purposefully guilty ?
A puppet for ultima
He was innocent. He didn't ask for any of this. Unfortunately, Ultima took control of him likely from the moment he was Born
Even Square Enix knows how western modern women act lol
Why didn't Jill help, she's shiva's dominant
I assume that this is after Jill gave shivas power to Clive.
I don't think she is strong enough to fight against bahamut
because when bearers and dominants use their powers they turn to stone. cid's arm and the doctor in the hideaway explain this. since she was captured by the iron kingdom, jill has been overusing shiva profusely. since meeting clive she's been told to keep it down. you see this in a cutscene where she gets told off to take care of herself more by the hideaway medic. she also gets told off by clive to keep her power use down.
@@idleeidolon Either clive gets completely turned to stone in the ending or the petrification only extended to his hand and he returned to jill... the ending is left open ended. Probably a DLC somewhere down the line.
@@kyzersoze8408You would be wrong then, but i assume Jill had to keep an eye on Anabelle
I still think she deserved a worse gruesome death . She got the easy way out 🤷♂️ but hey that’s just me maybe
I liked it. A pathetic end for a pathetic woman. Why should she have anything more than that?
PEAK VOICE ACTING